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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this episode of Demo and Joe. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host James de Bo Harrison.

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Speaker 2: And I'm here with my co host, Joe Hayden.

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Speaker 1: Please make sure you like, subscribe and download where you

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Speaker 2: How you doing today, Joe, I'm doing good. Brother Deebo.

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Speaker 3: You always hide your screen and pop off, and I

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Speaker 3: know you're gonna have on something crazy looking.

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Speaker 2: Swoll You're gonna have your arms out.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have something on when you blank your screen

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Speaker 3: until right before the show starts. So I'd expect nothing less.

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Speaker 3: I would expect you to come out here. Is that

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Speaker 3: a TJ wat jersey at a ninety? Are you looking

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Speaker 3: swow in? My young man watched jersey?

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Speaker 2: Ain't it ain't just the TJ jersey? Baby? You know

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Speaker 2: you know it's it ain't just a t J what jersey?

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Speaker 2: You know it ain't just it's the game. It's a game.

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Speaker 2: It's we would in the game. It's game. It's game,

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Speaker 2: It's game. Waring it's game personalized.

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Speaker 4: Where hey, hey, it ain't just game waring, baby, it's

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Speaker 4: personally to take a shower after this, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to take a shower after this because

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Speaker 4: it's real game.

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Speaker 2: It's stinky. It's think.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got a little got a little little got

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I say, you know, my good man t J.

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Speaker 1: Watt Man, appreciate you. You know what I'm saying. Hey,

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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. It was a fight

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Speaker 1: trying to get into it. I don't know how he

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Speaker 2: Man, howlean you you know it takes.

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Speaker 3: It takes the staff. You ain't see t J put

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Speaker 3: his pass on. It's him and trying to take at

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Speaker 3: that's fitting. He has shoulder pass underneath of that type.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, bruh. I had to get help, bro. I was,

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Speaker 2: I was clinched up and all that.

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Speaker 3: No, it's a whole process. You gotta really really practice,

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Speaker 3: you gotta. It's not it's not a game. You could

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Speaker 1: I was locked on the couch, liked getting getting it

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, Yeah, I see I see you back

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Speaker 2: How was your trip, brother?

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Speaker 3: Trip was great? Trip was great. Man ran into a

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Speaker 3: The season is coming back around, Debot. It's been cold,

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Speaker 2: I'll chick. I stayed with him.

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Speaker 2: Get away. Hey, it's me and Deebo right here. We

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Speaker 1: This this ain't no game we're playing. Were locked in.

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Speaker 1: that that assumption or that belief.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm you know, Kirk Cousins is Kirk.

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, not not not going to

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Speaker 2: But I don't know what's the money look like? What's

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Speaker 3: And I'm not too entertained, Honestly, I love Kirk Cousins,

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Speaker 3: What are we Is he going to be competing versus

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Speaker 3: It's all these names that they're bringing it to.

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Speaker 2: Its bridge.

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Speaker 2: Cousins, don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't see kirk Cousins in Pittsburgh or see him

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Speaker 1: But I still don't see it happening because of the

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Speaker 2: I believe the Raiders don't have nobody.

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Speaker 1: it's not something I think we'll be able to even

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Speaker 3: Awry, because I need to know what the money's talking about,

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers is still the reason kind of why this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you all the

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Speaker 2: Not upset? I don't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know when obviously when you see people

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Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like Warren, it just wasn't when dudes, when

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Speaker 3: don't want to have to pay a running back. But

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, ball out on that year.

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Speaker 1: An opportunity as an organization that you can trade, you know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we go do this.

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Speaker 3: So yep, at the time it was good because then

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Speaker 1: You have no choice. You have no che restricted. So

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Speaker 1: So don't nobody really want to talk to you. Ain't

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Speaker 2: Crosby Like, got to be more careful, bruh.

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Speaker 1: They got they said they they said they backed out

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Speaker 2: I feel going on? Devout?

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Speaker 1: Everybody know now what the real deal was. Okay, they

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Speaker 3: You know, he's returning, he's gonna be straight, like saying,

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Speaker 1: Hey, But now they got Henderson, they got him cheaper,

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Speaker 2: Them first round round picks.

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Speaker 1: They were going to have to give up for Max,

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Speaker 1: Like they're going with the what is it operating? Good faith? Words?

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Speaker 1: In good faith good faith to what to who? To

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Speaker 1: That's the same word the NFL used when it came

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Speaker 2: Eleven bro in good faith. It was a bunch of things.

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Speaker 1: That they had no clarity on, like they hadn't made

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Speaker 1: And right now, due it feels like the NFLPA has

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Speaker 2: Like, no, hey, I wanted to let you know that

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Speaker 2: I didn't make it. You didn't make it. No, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: My name was put in, but I didn't make it.

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Speaker 1: But again, this feels like to me, it's it's it's the.

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Speaker 2: Good old boys club. You know, they don't like you.

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Speaker 1: You don't get in, and that's why, like they keep saying, well,

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Speaker 1: transparent with our members. Now, members, you got you gotta

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Speaker 2: We will be what it was.

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Speaker 1: It will be adamantly in We want to be adamant

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Speaker 1: in maintaining candidates confidentiality to protect the integrity of the search. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when they say members, they're only talking to about

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Speaker 1: Like the only good thing they doing is they're starting

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Speaker 1: So you sit down there with your lawyer, right yes,

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Speaker 1: for his cancer and all that stuff. And you know,

437
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 1: I'm telling her about all that. She's like, well, you

438
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: didn't do it. I'm like, no, I didn't do it.

439
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: You know it would be no need for me to

440
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 1: do it.

441
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 2: But yah.

442
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: I get into the meeting. Bro, the NFL lawyers are

443
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 1: sitting now, she's sitting down with me. Let me preface this.

444
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 1: The first thing she tells me is, oh, we'll be okay.

445
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: I'm good friends with d Smith. I don't give a

446
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: damn friends with. On top of that, she was telling

447
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,119
Speaker 1: me some some some details of other guys cases that

448
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be bad to.

449
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,640
Speaker 3: Me about you're talking to Yeah, I know you're talking

450
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 3: about you, even I don't.

451
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: I shouldn't know this.

452
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: Nobody was guilty when it anyway, it didn't really matter.

453
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,600
Speaker 2: I know.

454
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 3: But you're still not supposed to be saying. But go on,

455
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:32,960
Speaker 3: because now I know you're probably talking about.

456
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,040
Speaker 1: My stuff, no question. So I get into the meeting.

457
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,640
Speaker 1: This is this is the NFL lawyers are there. She's

458
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 1: there representing me as the NFL player. Yes, and the

459
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 1: NFL p A sorry for the for the players, and

460
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: they go, Okay, well we know, uh you did your

461
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: you had your dad doing this type of treatment, that

462
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 1: type of treatment.

463
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: Did you do any of that stuff? I'm like, what

464
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 2: she went.

465
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 1: There and told them everything I told her Instantly, I

466
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,000
Speaker 1: was guilty.

467
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 3: I would have been I'd have been double agent.

468
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 1: Dude, dig diggly, double trip, triple. It didn't matter, like

469
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 1: who in the world does that?

470
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 2: They I fit devo.

471
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 3: That's that's the whole from that's inside, that's that's this

472
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: bad representation, that's that's double agent.

473
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: That's that's all. That's on too many accounts. Wrong, dude,

474
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm trying to tell you something.

475
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: But another person that ended up getting well, he resigned

476
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: Don Davis, that dude, he needed to bro. They actually

477
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: ended up realizing that he wasn't for them, and that's

478
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:47,479
Speaker 1: why they were you know. He realized he wasn't going

479
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: to get the not to to be put into that

480
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: position to to be elected, and he was like, yeah,

481
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 1: I'm resigning. Going He was part of the same DS.

482
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 1: That was all. D Smith McPhee was part of that too, Like, dude, anytime.

483
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,120
Speaker 2: It up, man, that's what it sounds like. But I'm

484
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: just hoping. I know I'm not in there. I know

485
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,439
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna be in there.

486
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: Cool, but I will just say this to the guys,

487
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 1: good luck in your future negotiations. But I want you

488
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,679
Speaker 1: all to remember that well how I go. It says

489
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 1: chance favors the prepared mind. Uh. I hope whoever y'all

490
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 1: select is prepared, but I highly I'm kind of suspicious

491
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,199
Speaker 1: that I don't know if they if they will be

492
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: if they will be prepared. But the NFL, they're upset

493
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: though about this Sydney Sidney Crosby situation. They're not Max Crosby, Max, Sorry,

494
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 1: Max Crosby. Why I keep saying Sidney because he he

495
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:51,159
Speaker 1: a penguin.

496
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 2: That's why I keep saying that. Yeah, that's why I

497
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: keep saying that.

498
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: So, uh, they said they're they're not happy with the

499
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: Ravens Nixon the trade NFL exactly. He said, whatever they

500
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: saw before, whatever they saw better be career threatening, otherwise

501
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: we don't do this. They knew something was wrong with

502
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: his knee, he just had surgery to get it fixed.

503
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: It really feels like they had some other reason for

504
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: wanting out of this deal. There's got to be something

505
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: else here. We all know he probably wasn't going to

506
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: be ready until training camp. It really sounds like they

507
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,719
Speaker 1: just got scared and looked for a way out. They

508
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,680
Speaker 1: ain't get scared. They knew they had something else in

509
00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: their bag, Jo.

510
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 3: Because they saw after that first day when Trey didn't

511
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 3: get signed, they was looking like, Okay, his market is

512
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 3: a little bit less than I expected. I could be

513
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 3: able to maybe for naggle and get him for the low.

514
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 3: We on the phone call, We got him on the

515
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 3: other line. They talking to both, They talking to Max Antrak,

516
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 3: They talking to Max and Track. They doubled that. Obviously,

517
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 3: you're talking to everybody because both the position.

518
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 1: Already the good faith, they already operating good faith, operate

519
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: good faith.

520
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:12,680
Speaker 3: And that in game dry. So that's the that's the

521
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: the good good faith. My touch like sign that illegal

522
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: and it ain't official. We Ain went on hit and

523
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 3: signed off on this. And the man had the surgery,

524
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: like you said, so he's automatically gonna fail the physical.

525
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 3: The physical fail, you're gonna not see nothing. It's not

526
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 3: gonna say he's gonna be able to play, for sure,

527
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 3: but the physical where he's not gonna be able to

528
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: get on the field that day and go play in

529
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 3: the game. You could say he's a fail, but the

530
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: Raymers knew that when you signed him, because he ain't

531
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 3: coming off the surgery.

532
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: So Max is gonna be good. I think they saw that.

533
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,440
Speaker 3: The trays market wasn't as high. They didn't have to

534
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 3: give up two first round picks. They could just go

535
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,360
Speaker 3: sign them to a little chill deal and go get

536
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 3: them off the chill snuck.

537
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: It ended up getting that back.

538
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 3: Door out of the other deal with Max, and then

539
00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,879
Speaker 3: they like this good faith is for the team. We

540
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 3: could say whatever we're talking to the agents. We said,

541
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: oh yeah, that's sounds good. Everything all right back But

542
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: until I ink signed, until the deal is actually done,

543
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 3: it's messed up for show.

544
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 2: That's not the way everybody's rocking. And that's why Adam

545
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: Sheffner and when these.

546
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 3: Dudes are able to put out these deals, the inkings

547
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,119
Speaker 3: and signed. But these are what everybody's came down to

548
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 3: the table and good faith.

549
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: This is the deal. Everything's good.

550
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: Everybody all favors say I I you know.

551
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 2: What I'm saying.

552
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: And then we wait a couple of days and then

553
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 3: we have to really sign the contract.

554
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: When the dude flies in.

555
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 3: All right, everything's good, but woo, and they're taking pictures

556
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 3: at the facility.

557
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: That's when the real deal's done.

558
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: But the Adam Sheffner is seeing all of this stuff,

559
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 3: that's just in good faith deals.

560
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 2: All of these in good faith deals.

561
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: Until you see the person at the spot with the

562
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,880
Speaker 3: hat on signing at the facility, that's when the real

563
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:49,679
Speaker 3: deal is done.

564
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 2: So like, I'm with it. But they they finagled.

565
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: They was in the joint trying to finesse, and then

566
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 3: they got their two first round picks and they got

567
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 3: their d n You know what I'm saying, We're good,

568
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: y'all mad. You know what I'm saying, weenagled our way.

569
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: So everybody can be mad at the Ravens and the

570
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 3: Zacks and stuff, because it's the good faith you want

571
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: to feel like when you're talking to the dudes is good.

572
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 3: But until that dude is sitting there signing that contract,

573
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: they're playing the game.

574
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: They're fenigling that that was that was jacked up. That's

575
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 2: what happened.

576
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude, listen, when you hear that good faith, man,

577
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: hold your pocket, hold your pocket. When you hear that

578
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: good faith, if they really want to show good faith,

579
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: good faith. Now should be a sign contract of saying, hey,

580
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: and good faith that we're going to do this deal.

581
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: We're going to give you a signed good faith note

582
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: that says we're giving you ten million. What are the

583
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: bills done that'll go towards your deal? And if it's

584
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: not done, then we keep then the player gets to

585
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 1: keep that money.

586
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 2: What what do you think that? What are these things?

587
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 2: What are these things? Devo? What are the joints called? Now?

588
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 3: Because like everybody has the DOCU sign, everybody got DOCU signed.

589
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 3: So if it's that much good faith, no, send the

590
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: doctor signed, send me that doctor he send me doctor

591
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 3: sign right now, all ideal faith done.

592
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Don't act in good faith and we let you go,

593
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 1: then you keep to ten If we do act in

594
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: good faith, you go ahead and get it now. You

595
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: ain't gotta sign teams. You ain't got to sign to

596
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: a whole big contract nflp A. Listen, they aint gotta

597
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: sign to a whole big contract. They just signed it

598
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: in good faith that they're gonna act in good faith.

599
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: They better DOCU sign me that bread. Listen, man, I'm

600
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: trying to tell you now. They need a consultant too,

601
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 1: because I need a consulting. I need something, man.

602
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: Max.

603
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: Max had this post right here, brother, check it out.

604
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,239
Speaker 1: He said, everything happens for a reason. Nothing you hear,

605
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: believe nothing to leave, nothing you hear, and only half

606
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: of what you see. I'm a raider on back run

607
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 1: that ship.

608
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: I feel them like.

609
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: It's if you're the player in the situation personally, if

610
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 3: you really think you was going somewhere.

611
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 2: Hey, bro. He posted some stories with him sacking Lamar too. Though,

612
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: if you the.

613
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: Player, man, you feel like you feel like he was

614
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 3: going to you felt like he was gonna be a raven.

615
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: He was ready.

616
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 3: Now when you're gonna have to come back and play

617
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 3: for that team, you're gonna, man, I'm back, I'm here.

618
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: They said the Ravens over there like a used cars,

619
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: used car salesman type business.

620
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,240
Speaker 3: In the chat, brother, man, that that's what it is.

621
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is. Jankie promoters. But but but

622
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 3: I mean yeah it is. I mean, but he did

623
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: fail as physical, so they can really say.

624
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: That they know he was gonna fail as physical Joe.

625
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: That's why they could be clear though.

626
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: That's why they can say it because it really did happen,

627
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 3: But it's jankie promoters because you knew it was gonna happen.

628
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: Broh Man, Listen that right there, you signed that, you

629
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 1: signed him knowing that he was not ready to play

630
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: a game.

631
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah that, Yes, you knew he was gonna play that season,

632
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 3: but you knew that physical was not gonna he wasn't

633
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 3: gonna pass.

634
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 1: Like y'all knew this going into this, and the NFL

635
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: is the ones that's pissed off in the n f.

636
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: L p A ain't said a word. Where are y'all

637
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: at for your player? Yeah? They just got him? They

638
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: got Max? Max? Max really think he about to get traded? Max?

639
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: Call called hey, hey, call the nfl p A acting

640
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: executive director or whoever, or called Jalen mabn Reeves. Call

641
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 1: somebody and ask them, Yo, what y'all go do about this?

642
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 1: Like they represent y'all now you I'm out of it?

643
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: What's the recourse for this action right here?

644
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: Like? Come on?

645
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: They allowed to just Yo, you're you up and down?

646
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: Bob you Yeah, man, I'm ravens flock all this other stuff.

647
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Now you're like, Yo, I'm back, you know, I know,

648
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: you know I said I was going said my goodbyes,

649
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: but like, huh.

650
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 2: I don't know crossby check in with them boys. I

651
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: don't know why they ain't checked in with you yet?

652
00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: Crazy that lead man? Is they they can they?

653
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: Hell, it's supposed to be our union or was? You're

654
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 1: still in it right now. I ain't in it no more.

655
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: But you're still in it right now because you were

656
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: within that that first five years.

657
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So, I mean, where are

658
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: they at in this process? Like this should have been.

659
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: They should have been in an uproar, don't I don't know.

660
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 2: He go back, So he's got to go back. He

661
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: goes back to nobody knows what's going on, bru. This

662
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 2: is just up in the air like he's back.

663
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: But now, how what does that do? They signed? They

664
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: signed people that got rid of people like I don't

665
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: what what? No recourse nothing, I don't I don't get it. Hey, hey, listen,

666
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: we appreciate you uh uh sitting up here and and

667
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,240
Speaker 1: you know, letting us play with you and uh uh

668
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: use you to do something else and for us.

669
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 3: No, they ain't tripping come on that organization around. So

670
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: the Ravens they gonna they just trying to do the

671
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: best that they can to get the best for their

672
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: team and what they think, and they don't care if

673
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: that hurts yoyo's or breaks good faith. You got to

674
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: send that docu sign. I'm telling you that that good faith,

675
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: that's that handshake deal. And somebody just screws you over regularly.

676
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: You got what proof do you have?

677
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: They said it was wide open.

678
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: It's not even behind clothes, just wide open. Usually you know,

679
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: they get behind closed doing this wide open, he.

680
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: Said, uh m hm. And they ain't done. Tell the

681
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: just don't get that, I guess.

682
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Kylin Murray reportedly they agreed to a deal with the Vikings,

683
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: which includes a little wrinkle in there. He has a

684
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: tag claws, so they can't they can't tag you like

685
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: that down.

686
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: I actually like it, though, I.

687
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Think, you know, he kind of kind of betting on hisself,

688
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: like I'm about to come back out here. I ain't

689
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: gonna let y'all give me a you know, I'm gonna

690
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: put a no tag claws in there, so when I

691
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: go over here and the ball out, I'm gonna be

692
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: able to do this and y'all gonna want me back,

693
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: y'all gonna need me back.

694
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: Man, I hear him. I respect him for what you

695
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 2: think he'll be able to do it?

696
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: Man, you think he go pull those you know, Sam

697
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: Donald type comebacks.

698
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 3: I mean he this is the thing he could. He

699
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: has it in him, you know what I'm saying. He

700
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: was the first, he was the hidrack. He's been balling.

701
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: I think maybe sometimes the system could be better for

702
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 3: him there. You never know. But the no, I'm just

703
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 3: saying the no, the no, the know uh the know?

704
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 3: What what are you saying?

705
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 2: No tag claws? No tag claws.

706
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 1: He can't tag him. So this year he would be

707
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 1: up done and they can't tag him, and they could

708
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 1: give him, but they would have to give him a contract.

709
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: Man, Listen, all I know is he's making one was

710
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 3: it one point four million from the Vikings this year

711
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: and he's still getting that. He's still getting at thirty six.

712
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: So I think the league now though him having to

713
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 3: take one point four from the Vikings. I don't the

714
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 3: no tag they can still they can still offer him

715
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 3: like a one for less than the tag. I don't

716
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,280
Speaker 3: understand why he could. Oh yeah, so he could be free. Okay,

717
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 3: now getting I'm getting so we can go anywhere.

718
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: He wants.

719
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 3: Okay, Joe respect respect that. I correct, correct, correct, He's

720
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: better on hisself. He's better on his self for show.

721
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: I respect it.

722
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 2: And I think I think he's that that's a that's

723
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: a good call. That's a good call. So he can

724
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: be able to get the best. Think he's able to

725
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: do it. You think he will be able to do

726
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: or won't be able to do?

727
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: Uh a scenario where he go and do that thing

728
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: like like like Sam.

729
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 2: Like Sam Donald.

730
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 3: I think there's a possibility there. I think the Vikings

731
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 3: have a good coaching staff. I think they have good receiver,

732
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: like Justin Jefferson isn't a bad guy to go have

733
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: as a number one receiver.

734
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: So you got some potential there.

735
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 3: I know the coaching staff, the coaching court, the quarterback

736
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 3: coach is really good. So I mean I think sometimes

737
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 3: too a change of scenery, you know what I'm saying,

738
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 3: getting the contract with Arizona Cardinals, putting all those like

739
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: study your tape. We don't know if you're really watching film.

740
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 3: Just had not knowing if they're really believing in you.

741
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 2: So have another team that I'm.

742
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: Gonna just say you going to another spot. I think

743
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,880
Speaker 3: he could he could do it.

744
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: He could, I don't don't. I don't think he's going

745
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: to be able to do it. And the reason I

746
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: don't think he'll be able to do it because he

747
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: relies too much on his legs instead of reading through

748
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: his progressions. And you remember, just like you said, was

749
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: that twenty twenty two he had a film study clause

750
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: in his contract that they later removed because of the

751
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: backlash from the fans. Okay, now you add into it

752
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: the height and what the concerns about him having trouble

753
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: with the route progression, and that's why they believe he

754
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: leaves the pocket sooner than he should is because he

755
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: can't see it, you see what I'm saying.

756
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 2: And when you look at Sam Donald, Donald's.

757
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: Ye like he's willing to stay in the pocket, and

758
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: he's willing to stay in there longer. So that gives

759
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: him more time to read through his progressions and all

760
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: that other stuff, and it makes it easier.

761
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: What is he like? Six three six folks out like that? Yeah,

762
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 2: sounds a big dude.

763
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: You know. So that's why I don't. I don't think

764
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: it'll happen. I don't think he'll be able to do it.

765
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: But with that said, I would love to see improve

766
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: me wrong and you know, go out there and you know,

767
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,800
Speaker 1: take that no clause, that that uh no tag claws

768
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: and make it, you know, worth his own, because I

769
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: really believe they're going to give him a chance at

770
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 1: trying to do it. Because Kevin O'Connell he declined to

771
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 1: give a starter. And you know what he said was

772
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: he said, unless I'm confused in any way, shape or form,

773
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't believe I have to name one of those

774
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 1: currently when he was saying about naming a starter, a

775
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for the Viking. So what do you think

776
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: this means for JJ McCary, What do you think that

777
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: means for his future?

778
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 2: I mean he going to be in a fight.

779
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 3: They're not signing Colin Murray there to just I don't

780
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 3: think he's signing up to be a backup to JJ

781
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 3: at all. So it's going to be a quarterback competition,

782
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 3: you know, like.

783
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 2: He don't have to name. You think he's in the fight.

784
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: But wasn't he the actual starting quarterback until so he'd

785
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: been So for me, I feel like that's a demotion

786
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: if i'm him. Ye is, when they picked up a

787
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: guy they let go and willing to pay well, how

788
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: much was it thirty six million to not have there?

789
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 2: He ain't good enough you.

790
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: I mean like, at the end of the day, quarterback

791
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: position is the position that they need and if they

792
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: want to bring somebody there to push them, to challenge them, like, look,

793
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 3: if you don't ball, like we know your first round pick,

794
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 3: but time is a ticket, like you got to show

795
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: us now. But if you don't, we got Colin. He's

796
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: trying to prove himself. Also, he's coming off of this

797
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 3: deal where he was getting the bag. He thought he

798
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: was a franchise quarterback and they let him go for nothing.

799
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: So your first round quarterback, what you're gonna do? And

800
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: then we got Kyler here, you know what I'm saying.

801
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: Definitely trying to prove hisself also, so I like the

802
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: quarterback coach that's there that it's gonna be like, no,

803
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: I'm not giving it to neither one of y'all. Y'all

804
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: got to show me what's up Kyler. And I'm thinking, now,

805
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 3: if you know this is your last chance, this is

806
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: your last Herader really kind of showed people what you're

807
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 3: gonna do or if you're gonna kind of just fade

808
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 3: out and just be it back up or are you

809
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 3: really worth that that fifty million that you signed for?

810
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, So that little I'm with

811
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: the he's small but as fast as a mug, so

812
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: being able to I think the athleticism and if he

813
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: starts really studying tape, knows how to get through the

814
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: progressions with the coaching staff helping him out. Like, man,

815
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 3: look you could just be boom. We got these reads

816
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: and you are quick. Get your reads, get through your progressions,

817
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 3: take off little man. You know what I'm saying, slide

818
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: Like I like his athleticism, he's super fast, but if

819
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: he has the coaches to be able to get him

820
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: to go through his progressions, be able to start kind

821
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: of you know what I'm saying, reading a little bit

822
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: more and then we can see.

823
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 2: But with JJ, I don't think like.

824
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: You ain't good enough to like be like walking around

825
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: like nah, this is my team. No we you you

826
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: you got you got some stuff to prove. Still, like

827
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 3: you still got to show me through training camp, through

828
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: the preseason.

829
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Through all that that whose

830
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 2: squad is this? Yeah?

831
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 1: I think I think with Kyler like a big issue

832
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: was like, like you said, trying to see the progression.

833
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 1: And then when you're like when you're that tall man,

834
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: he's looking through like slots and windows of people. He's

835
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: not looking over the guy. He's not able to see

836
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 1: over the guy. So he's see slots and windows. So

837
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: now you're going, you think it's a slot there, you

838
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: let that thing go all of a sudden, it's not

839
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: you know, where you thought it was, or it gets

840
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,880
Speaker 1: pick tipped, whatever it may be. And I think I

841
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: think that's that's a big that's a that's a big

842
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: issue for him, just from you know, a physical heights,

843
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: just from a physical aspect, being able to play the

844
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: position like your offensive line.

845
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 2: These dudes, you know, your tackle six six six five

846
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: six seven.

847
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: These big dude you know, six three six four. You know,

848
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 1: on the interior, the shortest dude is usually your center,

849
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: and he still be about a six two six three,

850
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,959
Speaker 1: you know. So I think that's that's something that he's

851
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: having a or has an issue with getting, you know,

852
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: getting past when it comes down to playing in the

853
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: position of quarterback,