1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:21,257 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to the 4 00:00:21,297 --> 00:00:26,177 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. This episode, we have Amber Smith with us. 5 00:00:26,177 --> 00:00:32,897 Speaker 1: She's a phenomenal, amazing lady. She was a Kiowa helicopter 6 00:00:33,017 --> 00:00:37,537 Speaker 1: pilot in Afghanistan and Iraq, so combat tours in both 7 00:00:37,697 --> 00:00:41,857 Speaker 1: war zones. She was also a Deputy Secretary of Defense 8 00:00:41,897 --> 00:00:45,617 Speaker 1: for Public Affairs under the Trump administration, the author of 9 00:00:45,657 --> 00:00:51,617 Speaker 1: the phenomenal book During about her time as a Kiowa pilot, 10 00:00:51,857 --> 00:00:55,457 Speaker 1: Danger Close and Amber, You gotta tell everybody what do 11 00:00:55,457 --> 00:00:58,097 Speaker 1: they need to know about the Kiowa platform, right because 12 00:00:58,097 --> 00:01:01,177 Speaker 1: people people give a lot of a lot of hoopla, 13 00:01:01,217 --> 00:01:03,977 Speaker 1: a lot of attention to the Apache and of the 14 00:01:04,017 --> 00:01:07,497 Speaker 1: black Hawk. But tell everybody about what it is to 15 00:01:07,617 --> 00:01:09,897 Speaker 1: be in a Kiowa and what kind of stuff you 16 00:01:09,897 --> 00:01:13,977 Speaker 1: were doing. Well. I was grateful enough to get to 17 00:01:14,017 --> 00:01:17,457 Speaker 1: fly the most amazing, badass helicopter in the Army's inventory 18 00:01:17,497 --> 00:01:20,977 Speaker 1: at the time. It's a light attack reconnaissance helicopter. It's 19 00:01:20,977 --> 00:01:23,697 Speaker 1: a two seater. At the co pilot, we have a 20 00:01:23,697 --> 00:01:26,857 Speaker 1: fifting gun, we have a rocket pad that carries high 21 00:01:26,897 --> 00:01:30,097 Speaker 1: explicit rockets and then we can carry hell fire missiles 22 00:01:30,137 --> 00:01:32,937 Speaker 1: as well. But the best part of our job was 23 00:01:33,057 --> 00:01:35,377 Speaker 1: who we worked for. We worked for a ground force, 24 00:01:35,897 --> 00:01:41,537 Speaker 1: so infantry, marines, special forces, NATO forces, in country forces 25 00:01:41,577 --> 00:01:45,657 Speaker 1: like the Iraqi Army or the fn National Army. And 26 00:01:45,897 --> 00:01:49,657 Speaker 1: we fly extremely low level, just anywhere from fifty two 27 00:01:49,737 --> 00:01:53,177 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty feet off of the ground, so well 28 00:01:53,177 --> 00:01:58,257 Speaker 1: within range of the enemy's weapon systems, and it's definitely 29 00:01:58,297 --> 00:02:00,017 Speaker 1: down in the fight every day we go out on 30 00:02:00,017 --> 00:02:02,777 Speaker 1: a mission. So I mean there's there's flying close to 31 00:02:02,817 --> 00:02:05,737 Speaker 1: the ground, you know, like like Maverick in the recent 32 00:02:05,777 --> 00:02:08,977 Speaker 1: Maverick where he's all, you know, doing the obstacle course 33 00:02:09,017 --> 00:02:10,977 Speaker 1: thing or whatever. And I spoke to you an F 34 00:02:11,057 --> 00:02:13,337 Speaker 1: eighteen pile who said, you got understand at that speed 35 00:02:14,137 --> 00:02:16,257 Speaker 1: you're in the you're in the dirt in like two 36 00:02:16,257 --> 00:02:18,897 Speaker 1: seconds if you mess up. Um, but you were not 37 00:02:19,057 --> 00:02:21,937 Speaker 1: much time mistakes. Yeah, right, you were flying at a 38 00:02:22,057 --> 00:02:25,137 Speaker 1: level where you could basically see like someone's you know, 39 00:02:25,177 --> 00:02:27,337 Speaker 1: you see the color of someone's hair right or there. 40 00:02:27,377 --> 00:02:33,137 Speaker 1: Beer if the ground high off the ground, we're very loft. 41 00:02:33,457 --> 00:02:36,257 Speaker 1: The ground intint behind that is that we do hunt 42 00:02:36,297 --> 00:02:39,137 Speaker 1: for IDs on the road ahead of convoys, and um 43 00:02:39,257 --> 00:02:42,577 Speaker 1: we do, like I said, get into these close combat 44 00:02:42,577 --> 00:02:46,297 Speaker 1: attacks when um often we get called into an enemy 45 00:02:46,857 --> 00:02:50,657 Speaker 1: firefight with friendly ground forces. So based off the range 46 00:02:50,657 --> 00:02:53,697 Speaker 1: of our weapons systems, just by nature, we have to 47 00:02:53,737 --> 00:02:56,017 Speaker 1: be very close to the ground. And that does mean 48 00:02:56,057 --> 00:02:58,857 Speaker 1: that it is an intense light It's an intense mission 49 00:02:58,937 --> 00:03:01,537 Speaker 1: because you know, you do have the hazard of the 50 00:03:01,657 --> 00:03:03,937 Speaker 1: enemy of their weapon systems, but then you have all 51 00:03:03,977 --> 00:03:07,737 Speaker 1: of those other hazards that come with flying so close 52 00:03:07,777 --> 00:03:10,817 Speaker 1: to the ground. You heard in Iraq fires used to 53 00:03:10,817 --> 00:03:16,177 Speaker 1: be such danger toilets and unfortunately resulted in you know, 54 00:03:16,537 --> 00:03:19,897 Speaker 1: multiple multiple kier crashes. So it was a pretty dangerous job. 55 00:03:20,297 --> 00:03:22,577 Speaker 1: Which like telephone wires, you're saying like you would you 56 00:03:22,577 --> 00:03:27,417 Speaker 1: would actually have about telephone and comms wires, Yes, birds, 57 00:03:27,457 --> 00:03:34,617 Speaker 1: telephone wires, cell phone towers, trees, yes, wow, that's remember 58 00:03:34,697 --> 00:03:37,057 Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of defensive armor do you 59 00:03:37,097 --> 00:03:39,377 Speaker 1: have on I mean except whenever I've seen photos of 60 00:03:39,377 --> 00:03:43,777 Speaker 1: the of the Kiawa, it's um, it's an agile platform, 61 00:03:43,817 --> 00:03:46,977 Speaker 1: but it doesn't look like it's not. You know, when 62 00:03:46,977 --> 00:03:48,737 Speaker 1: you see like an aten ward hog, you're like that 63 00:03:48,737 --> 00:03:50,537 Speaker 1: thing looks like you could kick the crap out of it. 64 00:03:50,657 --> 00:03:53,137 Speaker 1: You guys in the KaiA was I assume, yeah, you 65 00:03:53,217 --> 00:03:58,857 Speaker 1: really had to avoid enemy fire. The Kaiwa could take 66 00:03:58,897 --> 00:04:02,257 Speaker 1: a beating. It brought me home many times my aircraft 67 00:04:02,297 --> 00:04:04,817 Speaker 1: got shut up when I was in Iraq and I 68 00:04:04,937 --> 00:04:08,337 Speaker 1: had an AK forty seven bullet land about twelve inches 69 00:04:08,377 --> 00:04:11,657 Speaker 1: behind my spine. M Thankfully there was an armor plate 70 00:04:11,777 --> 00:04:15,297 Speaker 1: behind the back of our seat and then underneath our 71 00:04:15,337 --> 00:04:19,537 Speaker 1: seat as well. But we also had an armor panel 72 00:04:19,777 --> 00:04:23,497 Speaker 1: that an engine block. But get this, because of weight 73 00:04:23,577 --> 00:04:27,137 Speaker 1: purposes so we could carry more AMMO, we would actually 74 00:04:27,177 --> 00:04:32,257 Speaker 1: remet AMMO plates so the engine was less protected. Right, So, Amber, 75 00:04:32,577 --> 00:04:39,937 Speaker 1: you've seen the military from being a combat deployed rotary 76 00:04:40,057 --> 00:04:45,177 Speaker 1: aircraft warrior, if I may say, and you've also been 77 00:04:45,217 --> 00:04:50,697 Speaker 1: somebody who's dealt with the DoD at the policy communications 78 00:04:51,657 --> 00:04:55,897 Speaker 1: deputy Defense secretary level. So I think you're in a 79 00:04:55,897 --> 00:05:00,217 Speaker 1: particular position to talk a bit about the concerns over 80 00:05:00,257 --> 00:05:06,457 Speaker 1: a military that is increasingly concerned with d EI, social justice, 81 00:05:07,097 --> 00:05:12,497 Speaker 1: and wokeness instead of being being the most effective combat 82 00:05:12,537 --> 00:05:16,697 Speaker 1: machinery for the defeative enemies and defensive America possible. What 83 00:05:16,817 --> 00:05:19,297 Speaker 1: do you think of that problem, the scale of it, 84 00:05:19,337 --> 00:05:26,257 Speaker 1: the reality of it, well, I think it's incredibly dangerous 85 00:05:26,257 --> 00:05:29,337 Speaker 1: to our national security, to the health of the fighting 86 00:05:29,337 --> 00:05:32,977 Speaker 1: force as a whole, especially when we compare it to 87 00:05:33,057 --> 00:05:37,137 Speaker 1: what our adversaries look like today. We face some very 88 00:05:37,217 --> 00:05:40,817 Speaker 1: real threats. We inch closer to World WARREE on a 89 00:05:40,897 --> 00:05:44,257 Speaker 1: daily basis with this administration and the threats that works 90 00:05:44,257 --> 00:05:47,417 Speaker 1: those two around the world. And what do we see 91 00:05:47,537 --> 00:05:51,177 Speaker 1: our military doing. We see policies that are pushed down 92 00:05:51,217 --> 00:05:54,697 Speaker 1: on the force that have the intent of dividing the 93 00:05:54,697 --> 00:05:58,537 Speaker 1: force instead of unifying the force. And the military works 94 00:05:58,897 --> 00:06:02,057 Speaker 1: because everyone is one after basic training, everybody puts on 95 00:06:02,097 --> 00:06:05,817 Speaker 1: the exact same uniform and you put the American flag 96 00:06:05,897 --> 00:06:09,457 Speaker 1: on your shoulder, and you are a team. You're serving 97 00:06:09,497 --> 00:06:13,417 Speaker 1: towards one purpose, and you do that by coming together. 98 00:06:13,657 --> 00:06:17,817 Speaker 1: You don't sit there and focus on everyone's unique individuality 99 00:06:18,857 --> 00:06:21,217 Speaker 1: and then talk about how other people may be a 100 00:06:21,257 --> 00:06:24,937 Speaker 1: part of the problem. And so it's really creating this 101 00:06:25,097 --> 00:06:30,737 Speaker 1: softer generation of a military that we haven't really seen before. 102 00:06:31,217 --> 00:06:34,337 Speaker 1: And I think it's incredibly dangerous when we look at 103 00:06:34,377 --> 00:06:39,217 Speaker 1: the attention and the training hours and the shift of 104 00:06:39,257 --> 00:06:43,497 Speaker 1: focus away from these priceless training hours to prepare for 105 00:06:43,537 --> 00:06:48,377 Speaker 1: the mission, to prefare, to deter and then if necessary, 106 00:06:48,377 --> 00:06:50,977 Speaker 1: fight in some of these conflicts that are now being 107 00:06:51,017 --> 00:06:57,297 Speaker 1: focused on diversity, equity and inclusion, extremism training to being 108 00:06:57,417 --> 00:07:04,137 Speaker 1: soldiers being told that domestic terrorism is the biggest threat, solitary, 109 00:07:04,137 --> 00:07:10,617 Speaker 1: transgender policies, double standards for physical fitness tests, and the 110 00:07:10,737 --> 00:07:14,657 Speaker 1: recruiting numbers are showing the damning effects that are having 111 00:07:14,697 --> 00:07:17,697 Speaker 1: on the military today. The Army missed their numbers by 112 00:07:17,817 --> 00:07:22,857 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand soldiers in twenty twenty two. That's twenty five 113 00:07:23,017 --> 00:07:26,737 Speaker 1: percent below what they were looking to hit. That is 114 00:07:26,897 --> 00:07:32,977 Speaker 1: absolutely damaging to our nation. It silly shows the health 115 00:07:32,977 --> 00:07:36,017 Speaker 1: of the force and it's struggling right now. And when 116 00:07:36,017 --> 00:07:40,097 Speaker 1: you start paying attention to some of the policies that 117 00:07:40,137 --> 00:07:43,777 Speaker 1: are being forced on soldiers that are damaging moral, this 118 00:07:43,857 --> 00:07:47,657 Speaker 1: is what you get. Awoke military that is absolutely drisk 119 00:07:48,017 --> 00:07:53,937 Speaker 1: to recruit, movement to morale, and young Americans are saying no, 120 00:07:54,497 --> 00:07:59,577 Speaker 1: thanks are for other opportunities. It's really sad when I 121 00:07:59,617 --> 00:08:03,857 Speaker 1: hear people that have either gotten out recently or serve 122 00:08:03,937 --> 00:08:07,297 Speaker 1: for many years. In some cases friends of mine, who 123 00:08:07,297 --> 00:08:11,497 Speaker 1: did I mean more combat employments. Then that I feel 124 00:08:11,497 --> 00:08:13,737 Speaker 1: like I can even count when I try to run 125 00:08:13,777 --> 00:08:15,297 Speaker 1: them all past them, I say, wait, weren't you how 126 00:08:15,337 --> 00:08:16,857 Speaker 1: many times are you interact? How many times are you 127 00:08:16,857 --> 00:08:20,897 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan? And they say, not only would they not 128 00:08:21,177 --> 00:08:23,857 Speaker 1: want to go back in, but that if their own 129 00:08:23,977 --> 00:08:28,817 Speaker 1: son or daughter I was thinking about serving, that they 130 00:08:28,857 --> 00:08:33,617 Speaker 1: would try to obviously it's the you know, the person's choice, um, 131 00:08:33,817 --> 00:08:36,337 Speaker 1: but that they would try to discourage them from joining 132 00:08:36,497 --> 00:08:38,697 Speaker 1: with the military as it is today. I don't know 133 00:08:38,697 --> 00:08:42,017 Speaker 1: if you've had that experience. I have many friends, particularly 134 00:08:42,097 --> 00:08:46,417 Speaker 1: from the heavy combat branches, who say, nope, I wouldn't 135 00:08:46,417 --> 00:08:50,017 Speaker 1: want my son joining up right now. I have had 136 00:08:50,217 --> 00:08:54,777 Speaker 1: so many of the exact same conversations, and it's it's 137 00:08:54,897 --> 00:08:57,497 Speaker 1: terrifying for the military, the fighting force as a whole 138 00:08:57,497 --> 00:08:59,897 Speaker 1: in our national security with when you when you put 139 00:08:59,897 --> 00:09:02,857 Speaker 1: it in the perspective of what is our military supposed 140 00:09:02,857 --> 00:09:05,217 Speaker 1: to do and how generate up to serve the country. 141 00:09:05,497 --> 00:09:10,057 Speaker 1: But for me personally, it's it's um, it's really sad 142 00:09:10,217 --> 00:09:13,377 Speaker 1: to see a military that I served in for over 143 00:09:13,457 --> 00:09:15,697 Speaker 1: seven and a half years. I did two combat deployments 144 00:09:15,697 --> 00:09:18,457 Speaker 1: and one to Iraq, one to Afghanistan, and to see 145 00:09:18,497 --> 00:09:22,417 Speaker 1: a military that is unrecognizable to the one that I 146 00:09:22,817 --> 00:09:25,377 Speaker 1: served in, where we had a mission, we were focused, 147 00:09:25,457 --> 00:09:29,337 Speaker 1: we were a team. We didn't nitpick each other about 148 00:09:29,377 --> 00:09:33,457 Speaker 1: a part based on our differences. There was a standard 149 00:09:33,617 --> 00:09:37,097 Speaker 1: and you had to meet it and didn't then guess 150 00:09:37,177 --> 00:09:39,217 Speaker 1: what that wasn't the job for you too, and you 151 00:09:39,257 --> 00:09:43,057 Speaker 1: went on and did something else. Now, all of these 152 00:09:43,137 --> 00:09:48,457 Speaker 1: lowered standards, it's just it's absolutely creating resentment within the 153 00:09:48,537 --> 00:09:52,537 Speaker 1: ranks and it's killing morale and people are saying, maybe 154 00:09:52,577 --> 00:09:56,097 Speaker 1: I should look elsewhere, Like what are these sacrifices Living 155 00:09:56,177 --> 00:09:59,777 Speaker 1: a life in the military is You're missing birthdays, You're 156 00:09:59,777 --> 00:10:03,457 Speaker 1: missing kids graduations. You're like, I've talked to soldiers who 157 00:10:03,497 --> 00:10:07,097 Speaker 1: are like, I'm I'm done watching my children grow up 158 00:10:07,217 --> 00:10:10,297 Speaker 1: over zoom, you know, and they're missing all of these 159 00:10:10,417 --> 00:10:17,337 Speaker 1: life things that you these life celebrations, that anniversary's, weddings, funerals, 160 00:10:17,337 --> 00:10:20,817 Speaker 1: like these times that you don't get back, and that 161 00:10:20,977 --> 00:10:23,857 Speaker 1: sacrifice was always worth it to so many people who 162 00:10:24,377 --> 00:10:26,857 Speaker 1: and then they see the fall of Afghanistan, they see 163 00:10:26,897 --> 00:10:31,297 Speaker 1: the no accountability, they see Secretary of Defense Austin testifying 164 00:10:31,337 --> 00:10:33,937 Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill last week that he has zero regrets 165 00:10:34,297 --> 00:10:38,497 Speaker 1: for the way that the withdrawal for Afghanistan happened and 166 00:10:38,537 --> 00:10:41,417 Speaker 1: how the country collapsed and fell into the hands of Afghanistan. 167 00:10:42,137 --> 00:10:45,977 Speaker 1: He saw that thirteen US service members were killed as 168 00:10:46,017 --> 00:10:48,897 Speaker 1: a result of a suicide attack while they were guarding 169 00:10:49,337 --> 00:10:53,297 Speaker 1: h Kaya Kabul International Airport during the withdrawal. So to 170 00:10:53,377 --> 00:10:57,617 Speaker 1: hear leaders like that that creates such a distrust of 171 00:10:57,817 --> 00:11:02,137 Speaker 1: the commander to subordinate relationship that is absolutely vital to 172 00:11:02,217 --> 00:11:05,817 Speaker 1: the success of the relationship to get soldiers to want 173 00:11:05,857 --> 00:11:08,137 Speaker 1: to fight and win on the battle field. Just that 174 00:11:08,177 --> 00:11:12,857 Speaker 1: trust of their leaders which they have with senior military 175 00:11:12,897 --> 00:11:17,097 Speaker 1: officials and generals, you've lost the military. We live in 176 00:11:17,177 --> 00:11:21,697 Speaker 1: extremely dangerous times right now. In those recruitment numbers, Like 177 00:11:21,937 --> 00:11:25,017 Speaker 1: we'll see the next year coming up what those look like, 178 00:11:25,257 --> 00:11:27,297 Speaker 1: but it's not going to look any better. Like I 179 00:11:27,777 --> 00:11:34,737 Speaker 1: had lost fifteen thousand soldiers to their recruitment goals. The 180 00:11:34,817 --> 00:11:37,817 Speaker 1: other branches. The only reason they made it was because 181 00:11:37,857 --> 00:11:41,777 Speaker 1: they were pulling from their delayed entry programs. That means 182 00:11:41,777 --> 00:11:45,057 Speaker 1: they're setting themselves up this year for an either harder 183 00:11:45,097 --> 00:11:49,857 Speaker 1: recruitment goal. So it is just it is dangerous, dangerous times. 184 00:11:49,937 --> 00:11:53,257 Speaker 1: And because there's no accountability because of this toxic or 185 00:11:53,377 --> 00:11:57,697 Speaker 1: leadership that refuses to look internally. You keep seeing when 186 00:11:57,697 --> 00:12:00,777 Speaker 1: a Pentagon is questioned about any of their failures, all 187 00:12:00,817 --> 00:12:03,217 Speaker 1: they do is look outward and they place blame elsewhere. 188 00:12:03,537 --> 00:12:05,937 Speaker 1: It's never like, hey, maybe we should take a look 189 00:12:05,977 --> 00:12:08,337 Speaker 1: at what we are doing that is causing some of 190 00:12:08,377 --> 00:12:14,177 Speaker 1: these self lifted problems, and they won't do it. Come 191 00:12:14,177 --> 00:12:16,657 Speaker 1: back in a second here and talk about both Ukraine 192 00:12:17,817 --> 00:12:20,457 Speaker 1: and also what it was like dealing with the press 193 00:12:20,777 --> 00:12:24,737 Speaker 1: from the DoD during the Trump years. I bet that 194 00:12:24,937 --> 00:12:29,497 Speaker 1: was sometimes very illuminating about their real goals and intentions. 195 00:12:29,497 --> 00:12:31,217 Speaker 1: And we'll come back to that in a second. 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I mean, how does the 226 00:13:56,617 --> 00:13:59,257 Speaker 1: picture look to you of US support for the war 227 00:13:59,297 --> 00:14:03,937 Speaker 1: in Ukraine eighteen months in or fifty fifteen months in. Well. 228 00:14:03,977 --> 00:14:08,577 Speaker 1: I think that the United States military industrial complex, the Pentagon, 229 00:14:09,737 --> 00:14:12,977 Speaker 1: mini political leaders in Washington, DC are addicted to war. 230 00:14:13,057 --> 00:14:15,777 Speaker 1: I think they're addicted to conflict. I think war has 231 00:14:15,817 --> 00:14:22,377 Speaker 1: become big business and that's extremely dangerous for our nation. 232 00:14:22,417 --> 00:14:26,537 Speaker 1: If you look at the withdrawal of Afghanistan, we shifted 233 00:14:27,137 --> 00:14:32,137 Speaker 1: almost immediately towards a new conflict, a proxy war in 234 00:14:32,257 --> 00:14:36,537 Speaker 1: Ukraine with Russia, and really a fight that is not 235 00:14:37,177 --> 00:14:42,497 Speaker 1: within vital US national security interest. This is a regional 236 00:14:42,497 --> 00:14:46,537 Speaker 1: war between neighbors. The United States has already pumped in 237 00:14:46,697 --> 00:14:51,497 Speaker 1: more money than it ever did in an annual amount 238 00:14:51,897 --> 00:14:54,857 Speaker 1: for Afghanistan. So a war that we were fighting on 239 00:14:54,897 --> 00:15:01,377 Speaker 1: the ground in Afghanistan and it's and it's just win 240 00:15:01,537 --> 00:15:07,177 Speaker 1: is enough enough? And I'm not happy with the status 241 00:15:07,217 --> 00:15:10,777 Speaker 1: of how things are going with the war in Ukraine. 242 00:15:12,177 --> 00:15:16,137 Speaker 1: I think that we have some more led navity interest, 243 00:15:16,217 --> 00:15:19,737 Speaker 1: some real threats that base our nation, like China. Every 244 00:15:19,777 --> 00:15:24,737 Speaker 1: single day that threat grows, it increases on a daily basis, 245 00:15:25,977 --> 00:15:30,137 Speaker 1: and I think that the US is preoccupied with fighting 246 00:15:30,177 --> 00:15:34,377 Speaker 1: a proxy war in Ukraine with Russia right now. You know, 247 00:15:34,417 --> 00:15:37,257 Speaker 1: when I think back to I was in Afghanistan in 248 00:15:37,297 --> 00:15:43,377 Speaker 1: two thousand and ten, and interfacing with I was a 249 00:15:43,497 --> 00:15:46,177 Speaker 1: very you know, very low man in the hierarchy, but 250 00:15:46,217 --> 00:15:48,617 Speaker 1: I was interfacing with the people who were, let's just say, 251 00:15:48,657 --> 00:15:52,017 Speaker 1: calling the shots in country for both the military and 252 00:15:52,177 --> 00:15:56,857 Speaker 1: the intelligence agencies. And I was always, even at that 253 00:15:57,057 --> 00:16:00,777 Speaker 1: stage and at that age, shocked at how everybody was 254 00:16:00,857 --> 00:16:04,537 Speaker 1: repeating everybody else's lines. But everybody kind of knew that 255 00:16:04,617 --> 00:16:07,857 Speaker 1: it wasn't really true. You know, all the stuff about 256 00:16:07,857 --> 00:16:10,977 Speaker 1: all we're making all these gains in this year area 257 00:16:10,497 --> 00:16:14,817 Speaker 1: and we're we're consolidating what we've done in that area. 258 00:16:15,057 --> 00:16:16,737 Speaker 1: But when you actually talk to people who were there 259 00:16:16,737 --> 00:16:18,417 Speaker 1: were dealing with it. Like when I when I met 260 00:16:18,737 --> 00:16:21,737 Speaker 1: with a couple of different odias, a couple different special 261 00:16:21,777 --> 00:16:24,097 Speaker 1: Forces teams and asked them, what do you guys think 262 00:16:24,217 --> 00:16:25,857 Speaker 1: is going on? They're like, oh, well, you know, the 263 00:16:25,937 --> 00:16:30,897 Speaker 1: big military assessment versus what you were getting from from 264 00:16:30,977 --> 00:16:33,377 Speaker 1: door kickers who were living in combat outposts. It always 265 00:16:33,417 --> 00:16:37,257 Speaker 1: felt like there was a huge disconnect, And I was 266 00:16:37,297 --> 00:16:38,817 Speaker 1: there in twenty and ten, I was like, this is 267 00:16:38,857 --> 00:16:42,137 Speaker 1: just not going to work. But if you told anybody that, 268 00:16:42,297 --> 00:16:46,177 Speaker 1: or if you talked about that, um, you were kind 269 00:16:46,177 --> 00:16:48,377 Speaker 1: of treated like you were disloyal to the American war 270 00:16:48,417 --> 00:16:50,657 Speaker 1: effort there or the NATO as we know war effort 271 00:16:50,697 --> 00:16:53,337 Speaker 1: there before the Ukraine war, Right, this is what NATO 272 00:16:53,417 --> 00:16:56,417 Speaker 1: existed for somehow, m do you feel like we're heading 273 00:16:56,457 --> 00:17:01,097 Speaker 1: into the same trap with Ukraine, not obviously with our 274 00:17:01,137 --> 00:17:06,657 Speaker 1: own forces deployed, but just with our diplomatic, economic, and 275 00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:09,817 Speaker 1: material support to a war that to me looks like 276 00:17:10,337 --> 00:17:12,777 Speaker 1: it's going to go on for years, And we're talking 277 00:17:12,817 --> 00:17:16,097 Speaker 1: about we better start thinking about our support for Ukraine 278 00:17:16,257 --> 00:17:18,297 Speaker 1: with a T not a B as in a trillion, 279 00:17:18,457 --> 00:17:21,857 Speaker 1: two trillion. Well you think it's heading that way or 280 00:17:21,897 --> 00:17:24,097 Speaker 1: are you? Are you have any faith that maybe they'll 281 00:17:24,097 --> 00:17:29,657 Speaker 1: cut it off before that? Well to your point about 282 00:17:29,777 --> 00:17:35,337 Speaker 1: Afghanistan and people sort of saying that you're disloyal if 283 00:17:35,377 --> 00:17:39,777 Speaker 1: you sort of have an opposing view to push poker 284 00:17:40,057 --> 00:17:44,377 Speaker 1: to potentially start World War three with a nuclear power. 285 00:17:44,417 --> 00:17:50,137 Speaker 1: There's nothing more dangerous than a week army with nuclear power, 286 00:17:50,537 --> 00:17:55,497 Speaker 1: and that's where we keep pushing this war. And so yeah, 287 00:17:55,577 --> 00:18:00,457 Speaker 1: just to your point about speaking out in opposition to Hey, 288 00:18:00,497 --> 00:18:03,337 Speaker 1: maybe we should be pushing a peace agreement between the 289 00:18:03,337 --> 00:18:06,937 Speaker 1: two nags instead of pushing more war. It's like the 290 00:18:07,137 --> 00:18:11,537 Speaker 1: thing that you know, the Pentagon on in certain leaders 291 00:18:11,537 --> 00:18:16,577 Speaker 1: in Washington, DC to do they throw money at the problem. 292 00:18:16,697 --> 00:18:23,097 Speaker 1: And we have a lot of old in DC that 293 00:18:23,217 --> 00:18:25,857 Speaker 1: cannot give the cold out of their heads. So you 294 00:18:26,137 --> 00:18:31,417 Speaker 1: Russia into the conversation and it's nope, you know, We're 295 00:18:31,417 --> 00:18:35,257 Speaker 1: going to throw absolutely anything in every at Russia. And 296 00:18:35,417 --> 00:18:37,617 Speaker 1: it's like they get tunnel vision if you bring up 297 00:18:37,617 --> 00:18:42,817 Speaker 1: the word Russia. Guess what. Russia is a near peer 298 00:18:42,897 --> 00:18:48,377 Speaker 1: adversary in a conflict with a regional conflict right now. 299 00:18:48,897 --> 00:18:53,657 Speaker 1: Who is a bigger threat to US than Russia right now? China? 300 00:18:53,897 --> 00:18:58,137 Speaker 1: Who where geographically is the United States primarily focused on 301 00:18:58,217 --> 00:19:05,217 Speaker 1: right now? Russia? Okay, the United States military cannot is 302 00:19:05,257 --> 00:19:07,937 Speaker 1: not capable of fighting a two front war right now. 303 00:19:08,017 --> 00:19:12,177 Speaker 1: So when we're sending all of our ammunition, you know, 304 00:19:12,537 --> 00:19:18,697 Speaker 1: brigades of our military into Poland, into Romania, in these 305 00:19:18,737 --> 00:19:23,777 Speaker 1: other areas around Ukraine, helping train in Ukraine, depleting our 306 00:19:23,817 --> 00:19:29,257 Speaker 1: own United States tradition stockpile that we will likely need 307 00:19:29,417 --> 00:19:32,897 Speaker 1: in the very near future. It's just really not smart 308 00:19:33,137 --> 00:19:37,737 Speaker 1: decision making. I can't say I'm very surprised, but focusing 309 00:19:37,977 --> 00:19:40,977 Speaker 1: on Russia when we have such a very near threat 310 00:19:41,097 --> 00:19:43,977 Speaker 1: with China, which is no longer a near peer. China's 311 00:19:44,017 --> 00:19:49,737 Speaker 1: a peer adversary. Everybody wants to focus on Russia and Washington, DC, 312 00:19:50,017 --> 00:19:53,657 Speaker 1: everybody wants to throw hundreds of billions of dollars their way. 313 00:19:53,817 --> 00:19:58,057 Speaker 1: And it's absolutely a disgrace for US leadership, who is 314 00:19:58,097 --> 00:20:01,177 Speaker 1: tasked with protecting the American people, to put us in 315 00:20:01,297 --> 00:20:03,537 Speaker 1: harm's way the way that they are today with how 316 00:20:03,537 --> 00:20:07,857 Speaker 1: they're handling the war with Russia. You know, Senator Lindsay 317 00:20:07,857 --> 00:20:12,657 Speaker 1: Graham recently said he's definitely opened the idea of putting 318 00:20:13,017 --> 00:20:18,057 Speaker 1: US troops in Taiwan, creating a US military presence on 319 00:20:18,057 --> 00:20:22,897 Speaker 1: that island. What do you think about that? Does he 320 00:20:23,417 --> 00:20:26,497 Speaker 1: want an immediate war with China? Because guess what, that's 321 00:20:26,537 --> 00:20:28,377 Speaker 1: not going to look like the wars that he was 322 00:20:28,417 --> 00:20:32,097 Speaker 1: pushing in Iraq and Afghanistan for twenty years. That's gonna 323 00:20:32,137 --> 00:20:36,657 Speaker 1: look like a war to end all wars. It's gonna 324 00:20:36,657 --> 00:20:39,457 Speaker 1: get very ugly, very quickly. That is very true. I'm 325 00:20:39,537 --> 00:20:42,577 Speaker 1: a little bit surprised always, and this is more of 326 00:20:42,657 --> 00:20:47,737 Speaker 1: just a general political feeling that Lindsay Graham is always 327 00:20:47,737 --> 00:20:52,497 Speaker 1: so he's always treated by conservatives and conservative media for 328 00:20:52,537 --> 00:20:56,217 Speaker 1: the most part, with some kind of reverence. And this 329 00:20:56,297 --> 00:21:00,417 Speaker 1: is a guy who I've never seen him refer to 330 00:21:00,457 --> 00:21:04,017 Speaker 1: a war that other people will fight with any trepidation whatsoever. 331 00:21:04,177 --> 00:21:06,577 Speaker 1: Like there's never a sense when Lindsay Graham talks about 332 00:21:06,697 --> 00:21:09,897 Speaker 1: US troops going somewhere to fight. He's not going anywhere 333 00:21:09,897 --> 00:21:13,697 Speaker 1: to fight. Children aren't going anywhere to fight. He doesn't 334 00:21:13,737 --> 00:21:16,377 Speaker 1: actually have any children. But you know, he's not going anywhere. 335 00:21:16,657 --> 00:21:19,297 Speaker 1: And you sit there and you say, well, why is 336 00:21:19,297 --> 00:21:21,737 Speaker 1: he getting reelected so many times by the people of 337 00:21:21,737 --> 00:21:25,177 Speaker 1: South Carolina? You know what has to happen here? I mean, 338 00:21:25,337 --> 00:21:29,377 Speaker 1: I just I'm surprised that his constant push for more 339 00:21:29,977 --> 00:21:35,457 Speaker 1: expenditure of men and materiel in conflict isn't a bigger 340 00:21:35,537 --> 00:21:39,377 Speaker 1: problem for conservatives who are taking more of a here 341 00:21:39,417 --> 00:21:44,297 Speaker 1: at home approach. Yeah, because it's just an interview to him, right, 342 00:21:44,337 --> 00:21:48,497 Speaker 1: It's just another campaign cycle, it's just another rally cry. 343 00:21:48,577 --> 00:21:50,857 Speaker 1: It's not like you said, it's not his kids, it's 344 00:21:50,897 --> 00:21:55,377 Speaker 1: not his money. He's it's not his time away. He 345 00:21:55,417 --> 00:21:58,897 Speaker 1: gets to go on these congressionally sponsored trips into a 346 00:21:58,937 --> 00:22:03,537 Speaker 1: war zone, take the photos, get them, you know, special treatment, 347 00:22:03,817 --> 00:22:05,537 Speaker 1: and say that he's been to a war zone and 348 00:22:05,577 --> 00:22:07,977 Speaker 1: he gets to see what it's really like. But that's 349 00:22:07,977 --> 00:22:13,737 Speaker 1: not actually what real war is like. Politicians have got 350 00:22:13,857 --> 00:22:16,857 Speaker 1: to get back to the stance where war is a 351 00:22:16,977 --> 00:22:23,617 Speaker 1: last resort. It is a very last resort. People's lives 352 00:22:23,817 --> 00:22:29,457 Speaker 1: shouldn't be so loosely thrown out to fight these wars 353 00:22:29,697 --> 00:22:34,417 Speaker 1: and that sort of policy stance for foreign policy and 354 00:22:34,697 --> 00:22:38,377 Speaker 1: conflicts and wars that we've seen around the world that 355 00:22:38,617 --> 00:22:42,337 Speaker 1: is taking a toll on our military. It's completely damaging 356 00:22:42,337 --> 00:22:48,017 Speaker 1: the all volunteer force. I I mean, I think it's 357 00:22:48,057 --> 00:22:51,657 Speaker 1: scary times speaking of the all volunteer Force and how 358 00:22:51,697 --> 00:22:53,937 Speaker 1: long that's going to stick around for, which is seriously 359 00:22:53,937 --> 00:22:56,137 Speaker 1: going to change some things. And if a war with 360 00:22:56,217 --> 00:22:59,417 Speaker 1: China breaks out, that's exactly we will be looking at. 361 00:23:00,017 --> 00:23:03,457 Speaker 1: Nobody wants to talk about, but that's the reality. Yeah, 362 00:23:03,457 --> 00:23:07,177 Speaker 1: I just I mean, I'm I'm down here in Florida, 363 00:23:07,377 --> 00:23:11,617 Speaker 1: and you know, if if we if you had the Chinese, 364 00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:13,297 Speaker 1: it was like a red dawn situation where I think 365 00:23:13,297 --> 00:23:15,257 Speaker 1: it was actually North Korea on the remake, right, if 366 00:23:15,257 --> 00:23:18,417 Speaker 1: they started, you know, setting up landing craft or whatever 367 00:23:18,457 --> 00:23:22,657 Speaker 1: on the beaches year of South Beach, I'd be like, 368 00:23:22,697 --> 00:23:24,377 Speaker 1: all right, let's go, you know, mount up. We have 369 00:23:24,417 --> 00:23:27,377 Speaker 1: to fight. But on the other side of that equation, 370 00:23:27,777 --> 00:23:30,497 Speaker 1: if someone told me that I, you know, some future 371 00:23:30,697 --> 00:23:33,617 Speaker 1: child of mine is eighteen years old, if my son 372 00:23:34,937 --> 00:23:38,617 Speaker 1: son to be said I want to go and help 373 00:23:38,657 --> 00:23:42,857 Speaker 1: out with the US war effort, assuming we deployed troops. 374 00:23:42,897 --> 00:23:45,177 Speaker 1: I know we haven't at least officially deployed any troops 375 00:23:45,217 --> 00:23:48,497 Speaker 1: in Ukraine, but I want to go fight for Ukrainian independence. 376 00:23:48,857 --> 00:23:50,657 Speaker 1: I'd be like, do not join the military if you 377 00:23:50,657 --> 00:23:52,777 Speaker 1: want to fight for Ukrainian independence, Like I don't. I 378 00:23:52,777 --> 00:23:55,537 Speaker 1: don't know what else to say to me if that's 379 00:23:55,577 --> 00:23:58,377 Speaker 1: our fight. It feels like people keep bringing this up, say, well, 380 00:23:58,377 --> 00:24:00,737 Speaker 1: what if a NATO country's next. We have a treaty 381 00:24:00,777 --> 00:24:02,617 Speaker 1: with those countries. We have a written promise with those 382 00:24:02,617 --> 00:24:05,457 Speaker 1: countries it says if X, then Y. We don't have 383 00:24:05,537 --> 00:24:08,417 Speaker 1: that with Kraiza. So I don't know why these things 384 00:24:08,497 --> 00:24:12,777 Speaker 1: keep getting conflated. Yeah, people seem to be missing that 385 00:24:12,897 --> 00:24:17,377 Speaker 1: point of absolutely we have an obligation to NATO. Putin 386 00:24:18,257 --> 00:24:21,577 Speaker 1: is not invading a NATO country. If that should happen, 387 00:24:22,097 --> 00:24:25,937 Speaker 1: of course the United States would protect our NATO alley Ally, 388 00:24:27,217 --> 00:24:31,097 Speaker 1: that's not what's happening right now, and so that's why 389 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:35,337 Speaker 1: I say it's provocative that the United States wants to 390 00:24:35,377 --> 00:24:38,697 Speaker 1: fight this proxy war with Russia. It's pushing the biggest 391 00:24:38,737 --> 00:24:42,897 Speaker 1: nuclear power in the world, and it is not in 392 00:24:42,937 --> 00:24:45,617 Speaker 1: the best interest of the security of our nation, of 393 00:24:45,617 --> 00:24:49,337 Speaker 1: the safety of our nation, and too many people it's 394 00:24:49,377 --> 00:24:52,737 Speaker 1: almost like Ukraine is the next you see the blue 395 00:24:52,737 --> 00:24:55,177 Speaker 1: and yellow flags waving and the sunflowers. It's like the 396 00:24:55,297 --> 00:24:58,817 Speaker 1: new thing that people want to support without accepting what 397 00:24:58,857 --> 00:25:03,897 Speaker 1: the reality of a war in Ukraine against Russia actually means, 398 00:25:04,817 --> 00:25:06,897 Speaker 1: Like how much farther do you think we're going to 399 00:25:06,977 --> 00:25:10,297 Speaker 1: go before the United States commits some sort of US 400 00:25:10,377 --> 00:25:13,017 Speaker 1: ground force and then guess what. Then we're at war 401 00:25:13,097 --> 00:25:16,577 Speaker 1: with Russia and it's no longer we no longer get 402 00:25:16,577 --> 00:25:20,057 Speaker 1: to say, oh, we're supplying equipment, Oh we're supplying training, 403 00:25:20,137 --> 00:25:22,777 Speaker 1: or we're supplying medical care. No we're not. We're at 404 00:25:22,777 --> 00:25:29,817 Speaker 1: war with Russia. And the devastating effects of that if 405 00:25:29,817 --> 00:25:32,857 Speaker 1: the war were to expand because Russia would obviously feel 406 00:25:33,377 --> 00:25:36,577 Speaker 1: that it's an exit now it faces a true existential threat. 407 00:25:36,937 --> 00:25:40,857 Speaker 1: The Russians also view Ukraine as existential to their long 408 00:25:40,937 --> 00:25:43,337 Speaker 1: term survival. We don't really get that part of it. 409 00:25:43,497 --> 00:25:45,857 Speaker 1: This is not a justification of the aggression, it's just 410 00:25:45,977 --> 00:25:49,137 Speaker 1: the understanding of the Russian perception of the issue. Right, 411 00:25:49,377 --> 00:25:53,017 Speaker 1: So the Russians view a Ukraine that is de facto 412 00:25:53,417 --> 00:25:57,337 Speaker 1: or you know, close, basically de facto, and NATO were 413 00:25:57,337 --> 00:26:00,217 Speaker 1: actually in NATO, which some people talked about as something 414 00:26:00,217 --> 00:26:03,257 Speaker 1: that's completely unacceptable for their long term strategic interest in 415 00:26:03,257 --> 00:26:06,297 Speaker 1: the survival of the Russian Federation. Point being, they'll keep 416 00:26:06,337 --> 00:26:08,017 Speaker 1: fighting this out as long as they have to, and 417 00:26:08,137 --> 00:26:10,737 Speaker 1: they don't see this as a you know, we're just 418 00:26:10,777 --> 00:26:13,697 Speaker 1: going to give up because this is too costly for us. Now, 419 00:26:14,137 --> 00:26:17,017 Speaker 1: there might be a negotiation that could end this, and 420 00:26:17,137 --> 00:26:19,657 Speaker 1: that's what I think should be pursued. But there seems 421 00:26:19,657 --> 00:26:21,657 Speaker 1: to be very little interest in even talking about these days. 422 00:26:21,657 --> 00:26:24,777 Speaker 1: And I think that from the administration of people in Washington. 423 00:26:24,857 --> 00:26:29,337 Speaker 1: It's really disconcerting. After twenty years of war, where it 424 00:26:29,417 --> 00:26:31,857 Speaker 1: was very clear to people you were there, I was there, 425 00:26:32,497 --> 00:26:34,777 Speaker 1: very clear that this wasn't going to be the thing 426 00:26:34,777 --> 00:26:36,977 Speaker 1: that they thought it was going to be. It's like 427 00:26:37,017 --> 00:26:38,777 Speaker 1: we haven't learned a lesson. 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You know, I'm newly married, and 451 00:27:52,217 --> 00:27:53,897 Speaker 1: one thing that we keep talking about is what kind 452 00:27:53,897 --> 00:27:56,377 Speaker 1: of dog we can get. And I know your team Bulldog, 453 00:27:56,937 --> 00:28:00,097 Speaker 1: which is amazing, So we're gonna have to talk about yeah, yeah, 454 00:28:00,177 --> 00:28:02,497 Speaker 1: team Bulldogs. We're gonna have a bulldog discussion a second. 455 00:28:03,457 --> 00:28:05,457 Speaker 1: And also just want to ask what your plans are 456 00:28:05,497 --> 00:28:07,777 Speaker 1: here going forward and other things of the projects you're 457 00:28:07,777 --> 00:28:10,217 Speaker 1: gonna be involved in. But you know, there's so much 458 00:28:10,257 --> 00:28:15,377 Speaker 1: attention now to trans stuff in sports, the trans community 459 00:28:15,377 --> 00:28:19,737 Speaker 1: in sports. And you've seen him recently. Megan Rapino, for example, 460 00:28:20,017 --> 00:28:22,697 Speaker 1: of very left wing, became kind of famous for being 461 00:28:22,737 --> 00:28:25,057 Speaker 1: a really a left wing voice in the women's national 462 00:28:25,057 --> 00:28:28,097 Speaker 1: soccer team and saying that like they don't make enough 463 00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:30,537 Speaker 1: money even though they're actually paid disproportionately to what they 464 00:28:30,577 --> 00:28:32,297 Speaker 1: bring in in terms of revenue. But you know who 465 00:28:32,297 --> 00:28:35,977 Speaker 1: cares about things like math? She thinks that trans men 466 00:28:36,017 --> 00:28:37,897 Speaker 1: should be able to compete against women now in soccer, 467 00:28:38,057 --> 00:28:40,537 Speaker 1: to which I say, like, I'm a guy who spent 468 00:28:40,577 --> 00:28:42,537 Speaker 1: way too much time at a desk last ten years, 469 00:28:43,337 --> 00:28:46,217 Speaker 1: I would toss around members of the women's national soccer 470 00:28:46,217 --> 00:28:48,697 Speaker 1: team on a soccer field still to this day, having 471 00:28:48,697 --> 00:28:51,657 Speaker 1: played at like a reasonable high school level, like a 472 00:28:51,657 --> 00:28:55,017 Speaker 1: long time ago. It's crazy. We all know it's crazy 473 00:28:55,337 --> 00:28:59,257 Speaker 1: in sports. What is the situation now in the military though, 474 00:28:59,297 --> 00:29:03,137 Speaker 1: for how the issue is is handled? I mean, because 475 00:29:03,137 --> 00:29:05,617 Speaker 1: if you're a if you're a man who becomes a 476 00:29:05,657 --> 00:29:09,297 Speaker 1: trans female, are you still in it? Are you kept 477 00:29:09,337 --> 00:29:11,737 Speaker 1: in a male unit in male barracks? Like? How do 478 00:29:11,777 --> 00:29:18,737 Speaker 1: they handle that? What's policy? So the policy, the Department 479 00:29:18,737 --> 00:29:22,337 Speaker 1: of Defense policy for transgenders is that they can serve 480 00:29:23,137 --> 00:29:26,577 Speaker 1: in their preferred gender. So once they go through the 481 00:29:26,617 --> 00:29:31,817 Speaker 1: transition process and they then are allowed to put their 482 00:29:31,857 --> 00:29:34,937 Speaker 1: preferred gender on their military ID card. Once they have 483 00:29:35,017 --> 00:29:38,937 Speaker 1: that ID card, they are allowed to shower in Like 484 00:29:39,017 --> 00:29:43,377 Speaker 1: a man that now says he's a transgender woman, I 485 00:29:43,417 --> 00:29:47,617 Speaker 1: said that right is now allowed to shower in the 486 00:29:47,657 --> 00:29:50,177 Speaker 1: women's locker room, They're allowed to use the women's bathroom, 487 00:29:50,337 --> 00:29:54,457 Speaker 1: sleep in women's quarters, they are treated as though they 488 00:29:54,497 --> 00:29:58,977 Speaker 1: are a woman. That is the policy, and then they 489 00:29:59,017 --> 00:30:08,617 Speaker 1: have to meet whatever female versus male standards exist. Wait, 490 00:30:08,657 --> 00:30:12,457 Speaker 1: I gotta ask, Yeah, I'm just processing this. How what 491 00:30:12,617 --> 00:30:16,777 Speaker 1: has to happen for them to even like qualified? Do they? 492 00:30:16,857 --> 00:30:18,737 Speaker 1: Is it just a do you have to meet with 493 00:30:18,777 --> 00:30:22,737 Speaker 1: a base psychologist or something you know to go? Or 494 00:30:22,817 --> 00:30:25,177 Speaker 1: can you say no, I'm a woman now and therefore 495 00:30:25,217 --> 00:30:30,537 Speaker 1: the military will treat me as a woman. There's a process, 496 00:30:30,617 --> 00:30:32,977 Speaker 1: you have to meet with a doctor. But not every 497 00:30:33,417 --> 00:30:37,737 Speaker 1: transgender that exists out there or wants to transition has 498 00:30:37,817 --> 00:30:41,577 Speaker 1: gender dysphoria. Some do, but some don't, and it does 499 00:30:41,657 --> 00:30:44,617 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter like regardless of if you have it 500 00:30:44,737 --> 00:30:50,257 Speaker 1: or not, you're still allowed to transition if you speak 501 00:30:50,257 --> 00:30:52,097 Speaker 1: with your doctor and then you speak with your commander 502 00:30:52,097 --> 00:30:56,297 Speaker 1: and you it takes away considerable amount of time a 503 00:30:56,297 --> 00:31:00,697 Speaker 1: soldier who is in that process of transitioning hormones surgeries, 504 00:31:01,377 --> 00:31:04,017 Speaker 1: the time it takes with all of the administration things, 505 00:31:04,177 --> 00:31:08,737 Speaker 1: you're missing training, and then the team grows without you, right, 506 00:31:09,097 --> 00:31:11,177 Speaker 1: but then you have to be fully accepted back as 507 00:31:11,217 --> 00:31:15,377 Speaker 1: soon as you come back. So it does not add 508 00:31:15,897 --> 00:31:18,457 Speaker 1: if the military had like a litmus test for pretty 509 00:31:18,577 --> 00:31:22,417 Speaker 1: much everything they do and said, does this policy make 510 00:31:22,497 --> 00:31:25,617 Speaker 1: us a stronger fighting force? Does this make us more 511 00:31:25,657 --> 00:31:28,457 Speaker 1: likely to win a war against China? Does this make 512 00:31:28,537 --> 00:31:32,497 Speaker 1: us a more lethal, you know, more elite fighting force 513 00:31:32,537 --> 00:31:34,737 Speaker 1: in the world. If the answer is no, maybe they 514 00:31:34,737 --> 00:31:39,017 Speaker 1: should look twice at forcing those policies on the entire force. 515 00:31:39,297 --> 00:31:44,817 Speaker 1: But here is the kicker of equality rights, which is 516 00:31:44,857 --> 00:31:47,417 Speaker 1: what the Biden administration is trying to do with this 517 00:31:47,737 --> 00:31:50,417 Speaker 1: executive order that they pushed down to the Department Offense 518 00:31:50,417 --> 00:31:55,017 Speaker 1: when they then allowed transgenders to serve openly, so they 519 00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:59,777 Speaker 1: fully you know, have are on board with everything transgender. 520 00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:05,897 Speaker 1: The Selective Service what all men eighteen to twenty five 521 00:32:05,897 --> 00:32:08,457 Speaker 1: in this country have to sign up for within thirty 522 00:32:08,537 --> 00:32:14,217 Speaker 1: days of their eighteenth birthday. Men men have to sign 523 00:32:14,337 --> 00:32:20,097 Speaker 1: up for the Selective Service. Now, the Selective Service only 524 00:32:20,177 --> 00:32:25,657 Speaker 1: says your birth sex, so only men born in their 525 00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:29,417 Speaker 1: bogic biological sex as a man have to sign up 526 00:32:29,937 --> 00:32:33,417 Speaker 1: for the draft. So women who transition and become men 527 00:32:33,977 --> 00:32:36,697 Speaker 1: they do not have to sign up for the draft, 528 00:32:37,217 --> 00:32:42,777 Speaker 1: but men who become women are still required to sign 529 00:32:42,857 --> 00:32:45,177 Speaker 1: up to for the draft. So it's like which one 530 00:32:45,177 --> 00:32:48,377 Speaker 1: do they see? So are they saying that, like transgender 531 00:32:49,097 --> 00:32:52,897 Speaker 1: women are really men according to the Selective Service if 532 00:32:52,937 --> 00:32:55,937 Speaker 1: a draft was ever to happen, or there's just this 533 00:32:56,017 --> 00:32:59,337 Speaker 1: like complete double standard there, which happens a lot when 534 00:32:59,337 --> 00:33:01,657 Speaker 1: some of these policies are shoved down. They don't think 535 00:33:01,697 --> 00:33:05,657 Speaker 1: in third order effects of the decisions. But it's like 536 00:33:06,377 --> 00:33:09,297 Speaker 1: as a society, it's like, when are we going to 537 00:33:10,137 --> 00:33:13,217 Speaker 1: accept reality? Just like what we were talking about with 538 00:33:13,337 --> 00:33:17,537 Speaker 1: Ukraine Afghanistan, generals everybody went and testify it up on 539 00:33:17,577 --> 00:33:22,177 Speaker 1: Capitol Hill, like through the lens of these rose colored glasses. 540 00:33:22,177 --> 00:33:24,497 Speaker 1: They painted this pretty picture of what Afghanistan looked like, 541 00:33:24,577 --> 00:33:28,817 Speaker 1: but in reality, we all knew Afghanistan wasn't gonna stand 542 00:33:28,817 --> 00:33:31,577 Speaker 1: on a stew feet without the United States military and 543 00:33:31,657 --> 00:33:35,737 Speaker 1: the US dollar. Ukraine, everybody knows what happens as soon 544 00:33:35,737 --> 00:33:39,657 Speaker 1: as the United States leaves and quit standing up Ukraine. 545 00:33:39,937 --> 00:33:43,737 Speaker 1: You can know that Russia is the enemy and wish 546 00:33:43,857 --> 00:33:47,017 Speaker 1: that this was not happening to Ukraine, but you can 547 00:33:47,057 --> 00:33:50,017 Speaker 1: also live in the reality of the situation. And it's 548 00:33:50,057 --> 00:33:53,737 Speaker 1: the same thing with transgenders. The military is focusing so 549 00:33:53,857 --> 00:33:59,857 Speaker 1: much money, so much time and training, taking away training 550 00:34:00,937 --> 00:34:06,377 Speaker 1: to focus and give special treatment to the transgender demographic 551 00:34:06,577 --> 00:34:09,417 Speaker 1: for the military, and they do so by saying, well, 552 00:34:09,457 --> 00:34:11,777 Speaker 1: we want to make sure that we are recruiting to 553 00:34:11,817 --> 00:34:14,497 Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the population. The military has never 554 00:34:14,537 --> 00:34:16,977 Speaker 1: been able to recruit to one hundred percent of the population. 555 00:34:17,617 --> 00:34:20,777 Speaker 1: They're at about, you know, less than twenty five percent 556 00:34:21,497 --> 00:34:24,817 Speaker 1: of young Americans who are eligible to serve today. So 557 00:34:24,857 --> 00:34:29,257 Speaker 1: it's like, how about we focus on the problems that 558 00:34:29,337 --> 00:34:33,217 Speaker 1: exist in the military today on fixing those instead of 559 00:34:33,297 --> 00:34:38,337 Speaker 1: contributing more problems to the military. Yes, I think that 560 00:34:38,337 --> 00:34:39,617 Speaker 1: would make a whole lot of sense. I want to 561 00:34:39,617 --> 00:34:41,337 Speaker 1: come back. We'll talk with the Amber here in a 562 00:34:41,377 --> 00:34:44,897 Speaker 1: second about just some some more general some more general topics, 563 00:34:44,897 --> 00:34:46,977 Speaker 1: you know, maybe'll take a little trip down memory lane too. 564 00:34:47,057 --> 00:34:49,177 Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a moment. 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All right, Ever, so 583 00:35:39,537 --> 00:35:43,137 Speaker 1: I gotta ask your Your husband is a fighter pilot. 584 00:35:43,177 --> 00:35:46,057 Speaker 1: What is he? What is he flying? What was he flying? 585 00:35:46,097 --> 00:35:50,937 Speaker 1: Is he an FA team guy? Oh? He fives the 586 00:35:51,137 --> 00:35:55,057 Speaker 1: best thing out there a helicopter. He's not a fire pilot. 587 00:35:55,737 --> 00:36:00,217 Speaker 1: He's a helicopter pilot. Oh he's also ye see I 588 00:36:00,257 --> 00:36:02,737 Speaker 1: and all these jokes worth like if you know, if 589 00:36:02,737 --> 00:36:06,017 Speaker 1: you like did a lane change and almost caused an accident, Like, ah, yeah, 590 00:36:06,137 --> 00:36:08,137 Speaker 1: just like a fixed wing guy, you know, too fast 591 00:36:08,177 --> 00:36:11,857 Speaker 1: for everybody. You're both you are married to a rotary 592 00:36:11,937 --> 00:36:15,017 Speaker 1: military rotary aircraft military pilot. I don't know why I thought. 593 00:36:15,257 --> 00:36:21,737 Speaker 1: I thought twenty two guy. Pardon me, I'm way off. Yeah, 594 00:36:21,777 --> 00:36:25,377 Speaker 1: he is a helicopter pilot like me. He's a cab 595 00:36:25,457 --> 00:36:30,177 Speaker 1: guys got a stetson, so yeah, oh wow, very cool. 596 00:36:30,377 --> 00:36:32,737 Speaker 1: I was unaware. I was wondering if they're like any 597 00:36:32,777 --> 00:36:34,777 Speaker 1: jokes you make. But since you're both rotary, but do 598 00:36:34,857 --> 00:36:37,137 Speaker 1: you make jokes about fixed wing aircraft people? You know? 599 00:36:37,137 --> 00:36:39,497 Speaker 1: Are you kind of just like yeah, couldn't make it 600 00:36:39,537 --> 00:36:42,977 Speaker 1: in rotary aircraft school, Like I feel like helicopter pilot. 601 00:36:43,577 --> 00:36:45,817 Speaker 1: You guys are different, right, You guys are like a 602 00:36:45,817 --> 00:36:47,977 Speaker 1: different bunch because you're flying. I've seen the videos like 603 00:36:48,017 --> 00:36:51,297 Speaker 1: little birds and stuff, and uh um, you know the 604 00:36:51,417 --> 00:36:54,097 Speaker 1: night Stalkers. I mean they're like practically flying these things 605 00:36:54,177 --> 00:36:58,857 Speaker 1: upside down beneath the bridge, smoking a cigar MP five 606 00:36:58,897 --> 00:37:01,017 Speaker 1: in one hand, and you know they're just going crazy 607 00:37:01,017 --> 00:37:04,817 Speaker 1: out there doing amazing stuff. Yeah. When I was in 608 00:37:04,857 --> 00:37:09,137 Speaker 1: flight school, we would have instructor pilots who this didn't 609 00:37:09,177 --> 00:37:13,457 Speaker 1: happen in I cockpit. But students within my class, they 610 00:37:13,497 --> 00:37:16,177 Speaker 1: would have stories because a lot of the instructor pilots 611 00:37:16,177 --> 00:37:18,657 Speaker 1: were old Vietnam pilots. So then you know, after they 612 00:37:18,697 --> 00:37:21,017 Speaker 1: get out the military, their helicopter pilots, they come and 613 00:37:21,097 --> 00:37:24,297 Speaker 1: they teach like the newer generation of pilot military pilots, 614 00:37:24,577 --> 00:37:29,457 Speaker 1: and they would they Vietnam pilots were the absolute best 615 00:37:30,217 --> 00:37:32,937 Speaker 1: guys in the world. They had the most amazing stories. 616 00:37:33,137 --> 00:37:35,297 Speaker 1: And yeah, one guy was even like I didn't know 617 00:37:35,337 --> 00:37:36,937 Speaker 1: what to do. I got in my car, I got 618 00:37:36,937 --> 00:37:39,417 Speaker 1: in the helicopter and like once we got up to altitude, 619 00:37:39,457 --> 00:37:42,897 Speaker 1: like you just started smoking and we just are laughing 620 00:37:42,937 --> 00:37:45,577 Speaker 1: because obviously that's like no longer allowed. But back in 621 00:37:45,697 --> 00:37:48,537 Speaker 1: Vietnam days, like that's what they did. Well, that is 622 00:37:48,577 --> 00:37:50,737 Speaker 1: kind of amazing having having been you know, I remember 623 00:37:50,777 --> 00:37:53,377 Speaker 1: when I was in a rocket Afghanistan because you watch 624 00:37:53,417 --> 00:37:57,057 Speaker 1: some of these movies and like every American Vietnam movie, 625 00:37:57,097 --> 00:38:02,417 Speaker 1: for example, everyone's walking around shirtless, smoking drinking beer on 626 00:38:02,497 --> 00:38:04,737 Speaker 1: base all the time. Right, that's when they're back on base, 627 00:38:04,777 --> 00:38:07,697 Speaker 1: you're smoking cigarettes, you're drinking beer. Not a lot of 628 00:38:07,697 --> 00:38:09,697 Speaker 1: I didn't see a lot of beer drinking in theater 629 00:38:09,777 --> 00:38:11,657 Speaker 1: or are they They definitely got rid the British would 630 00:38:11,657 --> 00:38:13,777 Speaker 1: do it though the British were always you know, able 631 00:38:13,777 --> 00:38:17,737 Speaker 1: to which I thought was interesting. Yes, yes, they got 632 00:38:17,817 --> 00:38:22,577 Speaker 1: rid of um all of that uh in today's military. 633 00:38:23,337 --> 00:38:27,297 Speaker 1: One of my fly instructors, though, he was I actually 634 00:38:27,297 --> 00:38:31,177 Speaker 1: write about this in my book Danger Clothes when he uh, 635 00:38:31,217 --> 00:38:35,057 Speaker 1: he didn't drink alcohol, He never drank alcohol, but everybody 636 00:38:35,057 --> 00:38:40,177 Speaker 1: else in his company drank alcohol. And he said he 637 00:38:40,257 --> 00:38:42,577 Speaker 1: was so sick wherever they were in Vietnam. He was 638 00:38:42,617 --> 00:38:46,057 Speaker 1: so sick of never getting any mail runs that everybody 639 00:38:46,137 --> 00:38:48,817 Speaker 1: was too hungover to like work or fly the next day. 640 00:38:48,857 --> 00:38:52,057 Speaker 1: So he literally like took a helicopter, didn't tell anybody, 641 00:38:52,137 --> 00:38:55,617 Speaker 1: flew to whatever base has the mail, loaded up the 642 00:38:55,697 --> 00:38:57,777 Speaker 1: helicopter with all of their mail, and then flew it 643 00:38:57,817 --> 00:39:01,657 Speaker 1: back to everybody because he was so sick of waiting around. Well, 644 00:39:01,657 --> 00:39:03,017 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was. I'm sure he was a hero 645 00:39:03,097 --> 00:39:05,097 Speaker 1: and everybody who wanted to get some mail from back home. 646 00:39:05,697 --> 00:39:10,897 Speaker 1: Very very good speaking. I'm gonna have you help settle 647 00:39:10,937 --> 00:39:15,497 Speaker 1: this bet, which is not really a bet. A debate 648 00:39:15,537 --> 00:39:18,137 Speaker 1: in the in the Sexton Household between mister and Missus 649 00:39:18,177 --> 00:39:20,137 Speaker 1: Sexton and I keep my voice down because when I'm 650 00:39:20,177 --> 00:39:22,217 Speaker 1: recording that, she might be able to hear me. So 651 00:39:22,257 --> 00:39:23,937 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, I don't want anyone to know 652 00:39:25,857 --> 00:39:29,537 Speaker 1: I love bulldogs. You and your husband, right, you are 653 00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:34,337 Speaker 1: English bulldog people. And people give me all this stuff. 654 00:39:34,377 --> 00:39:37,057 Speaker 1: They say, oh there they have all the health issues 655 00:39:37,137 --> 00:39:39,817 Speaker 1: and they snore and all that stuff. But I try 656 00:39:39,817 --> 00:39:42,937 Speaker 1: to tell them I will find the snoring adorable because 657 00:39:42,937 --> 00:39:46,897 Speaker 1: it's English bulldog snoring. It's not gross human snoring. Help 658 00:39:46,977 --> 00:39:49,177 Speaker 1: sell right now, she'll listen to this. I'll tell her 659 00:39:49,177 --> 00:39:53,017 Speaker 1: about this. Help sell missus Sexton on the English bulldog 660 00:39:53,097 --> 00:39:58,057 Speaker 1: which you have as a breed. So I have been 661 00:39:58,217 --> 00:40:01,817 Speaker 1: obsessed since I saw one on like gift card when 662 00:40:01,817 --> 00:40:04,217 Speaker 1: I was probably like twelve years old, and that was 663 00:40:04,257 --> 00:40:07,497 Speaker 1: my dream. I wanted to get a bulldog ever since then. 664 00:40:08,897 --> 00:40:13,017 Speaker 1: When my husband got in gauged and you know we 665 00:40:13,017 --> 00:40:16,457 Speaker 1: were gonna get married, I started sending him photos and 666 00:40:16,657 --> 00:40:22,937 Speaker 1: videos on a daily basis of bulldog puppies interacting. They're 667 00:40:22,977 --> 00:40:26,577 Speaker 1: like everywhere on Instagram. Um so just start tagging her, 668 00:40:26,657 --> 00:40:29,937 Speaker 1: Start tagging her on like every single cute video that 669 00:40:30,057 --> 00:40:32,657 Speaker 1: you see and get it in her brain and she's 670 00:40:32,697 --> 00:40:36,937 Speaker 1: gonna come around. She's gonna wrinkly and smushy and how cuddly. 671 00:40:37,217 --> 00:40:41,097 Speaker 1: And there's nothing like a bulldog personality out there. They're 672 00:40:41,257 --> 00:40:45,257 Speaker 1: stubborn but hilarious, and they're the most loyal dogs, the 673 00:40:45,337 --> 00:40:50,137 Speaker 1: best cuddlers, and if you snor, they're a little stinky 674 00:40:50,177 --> 00:40:52,257 Speaker 1: every now and then. But I mean, is there a 675 00:40:52,257 --> 00:40:56,497 Speaker 1: dog that isn't say, you know what I mean? Come back? 676 00:40:56,537 --> 00:40:58,577 Speaker 1: You know, humans, we come back from the gym or whatever. 677 00:40:58,617 --> 00:41:00,577 Speaker 1: It can be a little rough. Sometimes you gotta lead 678 00:41:00,577 --> 00:41:02,377 Speaker 1: the shoes out the back door, like you know. It's 679 00:41:02,417 --> 00:41:04,217 Speaker 1: not I don't. I don't see that as such a 680 00:41:04,217 --> 00:41:06,297 Speaker 1: big issue. Um I told you I'm already doing the 681 00:41:06,297 --> 00:41:10,897 Speaker 1: bulldog propaganda from instagram, sending her a little bulldog photos 682 00:41:10,897 --> 00:41:13,337 Speaker 1: of puppies and things. So we'll see. But she likes 683 00:41:13,617 --> 00:41:15,377 Speaker 1: she's a big dog person. This is the thing we 684 00:41:15,457 --> 00:41:17,977 Speaker 1: keep coming. She wants a big dog, like you know, 685 00:41:18,057 --> 00:41:23,377 Speaker 1: eighty pounds. Are you guys looking at a frenchie or English? 686 00:41:23,497 --> 00:41:25,737 Speaker 1: I want to I mean, I want an English If 687 00:41:25,777 --> 00:41:28,337 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get one, I'm gonna English bulldog. So yeah, 688 00:41:28,417 --> 00:41:32,497 Speaker 1: that's the plan. So maybe you might have a lot 689 00:41:32,497 --> 00:41:37,097 Speaker 1: of people think that English aren't very athletic. But if 690 00:41:37,137 --> 00:41:40,297 Speaker 1: you do have a bulldog and you train them when 691 00:41:40,297 --> 00:41:43,897 Speaker 1: they're young, they will. They're like good walking dogs if 692 00:41:43,937 --> 00:41:47,457 Speaker 1: you get the right harness um, but you gotta start 693 00:41:47,497 --> 00:41:51,817 Speaker 1: them young. And they're also very like fast sprinters and 694 00:41:51,857 --> 00:41:57,217 Speaker 1: they can jump extremely high, so throwing frisbees, throwing a ball. 695 00:41:57,297 --> 00:42:00,177 Speaker 1: Like they are outdoor dogs, Like you can get them 696 00:42:00,177 --> 00:42:01,457 Speaker 1: out there. It's kind of like up to the owner 697 00:42:01,497 --> 00:42:03,697 Speaker 1: if you want them to be like lazy couch dogs 698 00:42:04,057 --> 00:42:06,217 Speaker 1: and that's all they do from when they're puppies, that's 699 00:42:06,217 --> 00:42:08,457 Speaker 1: all they do. But like you want to get them 700 00:42:08,497 --> 00:42:11,337 Speaker 1: outside and like have them go play at the park 701 00:42:11,417 --> 00:42:16,337 Speaker 1: like they love that too. Amber. Your book Danger Clothes, 702 00:42:16,417 --> 00:42:18,257 Speaker 1: people should get a copy of they don't already. I 703 00:42:18,297 --> 00:42:20,977 Speaker 1: know you're working on another book which will have you 704 00:42:20,977 --> 00:42:23,777 Speaker 1: back when that is published to talk about obviously, but 705 00:42:23,897 --> 00:42:26,657 Speaker 1: anything else anywhere else. People should look for your work, 706 00:42:26,697 --> 00:42:32,097 Speaker 1: your commentary, all that good stuff. Yeah. You can always 707 00:42:32,097 --> 00:42:36,217 Speaker 1: see what I am up to lately on official Amber 708 00:42:36,257 --> 00:42:39,217 Speaker 1: Smith dot com and then you can follow along on 709 00:42:39,297 --> 00:42:45,217 Speaker 1: Instagram or Twitter at Amber Smith USA. Awesome, Amber, thank 710 00:42:45,257 --> 00:42:48,097 Speaker 1: you so much. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks back. 711 00:42:48,297 --> 00:42:48,977 Speaker 1: Great to see you