1 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to a week five edition of Between the Horns, 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California Toya. The dealer's money is JB. Long. 3 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 1: The Rams are home this month three home games and 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: a bye around out the month of October at SOFI Stadium. 5 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Stud Jackson is with us this morning to Marco Far 6 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: and Ricky Hollywood. All here, de far, Let me start 7 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: with you. Short week, tough week. How you doing. I'm okay, 8 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, no smiles right now. I think a short 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 1: week is good considering what happened on Monday night. You 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: know you know what I'm saying. I mean, you want 11 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: to get back to the field as fast as possible 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: to try to correct that or erase that wrong. But yeah, 13 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: it's tough prep wise, but for a football player, you 14 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,199 Speaker 1: want to get back out there as soon as possible 15 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: after a buck kicking like that. No smiles from Dfar. 16 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: We had a false start as we started this episode 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: Between the Horns, Ricky Hollywood logging in on like a 18 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: freeze frame, and it was a very intense, serious glaring. 19 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, he's upset about Monday night football. 20 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: But there's a smile. She can be. First week, I 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: meant business this morning for sure. Yeah. No, a short week. 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: Like DeMarco said, there's a lot to improve. And I 23 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: think Cooper Cop said it best after the game that 24 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: you almost feel better watching the tape because it's all 25 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: stuff that I think this team can correct. So hopefully 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: they get you know, they get on the field and 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: Cowboys is a get right game. Interesting even though it's 28 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: minus eight, it was a one possession game deep into 29 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: that contest before the pick six. I used it all right, 30 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Stu Jackson, we need you to do some accounting because 31 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: it is a short week. It's not a week where 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: the Rams can really look externally for much help. They're 33 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: going to have to find solutions within. That includes replacing 34 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 1: Colton Shelton, who we understand is going to be gone 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: a month or more. So let's start on the offensive line. 36 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: What might it look like against the Cowboys. Yeah, Well, 37 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford had a lot of confidence in Jeremiah Colonne, 38 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: even though they had never repped together in a team period. 39 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: In a practice before Colone stepped in really seemless Lee 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: and Stafford said he was constantly in his ear to 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: make sure he could just go play, and Stafford would 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: take care of the rest. So there's a chance we 43 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: see him at center, I would I would guess that's 44 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: probably the strongest chance. H McVay also mentioned there's a 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: possibility that they elevate Matt Scrow from the practice squad. 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 1: He's a veteran on there, someone who most people are 47 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 1: familiar with his time starting at center for the Ravens, 48 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: but he's also got experience starting at guard, so that's 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: kind of an interesting wrinkle there. If he does end 50 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,919 Speaker 1: up getting activated off the practice squad, you could see 51 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: Bobby Evans at left guard again, and then of course, 52 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: you know you'll still have Joe Nopeum at left tackle, 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Laric Jackson I'm sure we'll remain at right guard, and 54 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: of course you'll have Rob Havenstein at right tackle. The 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: other thing is too is they're you know, keeping their 56 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: options open with Brian Allen. So you know, while there's 57 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: confidence in Cologne and you could potentially have I guess 58 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: Screw is an option if you want to go that route. 59 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: You know they're they're leaving it up him for Allen 60 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: to potentially return this week or or even next week, 61 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: just kind of taking it day by day, and of 62 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: course they're just waiting to see what happens with David 63 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: Edwards as well. You know, if for any reason, you know, 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: they're hopeful that he'll be back this week. But as 65 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: McBay has mentioned before when talking about concussion protocol, you 66 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: can never be too careful or cautious with that. So 67 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: a lot of moving parts for that offensive line on 68 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: a short week. But we'll be fascinating to see how 69 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: that all comes together heading into Sunday. All right, d 70 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: far they may have optimism and confidence in what they 71 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: ran out there at the end of the San Francisco 72 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: forty nine ers loss. Having watched the All twenty two, 73 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: how bad was it? Is the offensive line really the 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: crux up the matter, both in terms of run and 75 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: pass pro Yeah, I would say so, and to Stee's point, 76 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: more moving parts than the Space Shuttle, no doubt. But yeah, 77 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: absolutely we talked about this, how much time do we 78 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: spend on Nick Bosa leading up to the game, and 79 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: sure enough, there he is. He showed up almost every 80 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: single drop back, So that's not going to change versus Dallas, 81 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: and I think it actually gets worse or the threat 82 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: is even more dangerous because of Mike Parsons, because they 83 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: have DeMarcus Lawrence, and they have Fowler off the edge, 84 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: who's basically shrapnel. So yeah, they're gonna look Dallas is 85 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: at what San Francisco did and they're going to try 86 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: to copy it and single guys up, try to force 87 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: those one on ones or bring those stunts that keep 88 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: getting home. So, if you're Matthew Stafford, the right thing 89 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: is to have confidence in who's in front of you. 90 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: But those guys in front are going to have to 91 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: make a quantum leap in performance to keep Dallas off 92 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford this week. I mean they are a 93 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: nightmare for opposing quarterbacks. Are the Cowboys first in QB hits, 94 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: second in sacks, third and opponent passer rating. They seldom blitz. 95 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: They've got their full complement of three safeties healthy and 96 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 1: available for this week five game at SOFI. All Right, 97 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, I need reason for optimism, Help me spin 98 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: this forward, help me get my eyes on Sunday here 99 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: against the Star. Well, we know coach McVeagh. I know 100 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: you guys didn't get to sit down with him this week, 101 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: but I loved listening to general manager less sneed on 102 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Speaker 1: the coach mcface show with you guys this week, and 103 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: I think that this turn the page mentality for this 104 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: team is very prevalent and strong, and so we know 105 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: McVeigh he is. He probably didn't sleep Monday night at all, 106 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: drawing on whiteboards already planning for the Cowboys. Matthew Stafford 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: during his press conference a couple days ago, was like, 108 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about the Mounday night 109 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: game because I have a short week to get ready 110 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. That's what we're working on. I think 111 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: that this team coming out, you have Cup targeted nineteen times, 112 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: which is just unheard of insane. So all we have 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: to do is spread the ball around a little bit more, 114 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: get the ball out faster with it with a defense 115 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: and a front coming at from the Cowboys side of things. 116 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: But like you said earlier, JB, it was a one 117 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: possession game until the very end, essentially, So this team 118 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: has a lot of little minor things that they can 119 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 1: tweak to get better, get Allen Robinson involved more. You know, 120 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,920 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things. If this old line can 121 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: hold for just a tiny bit longer, I think, But 122 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: there's optimism, yes, Do I feel this tension between allowing 123 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: the players who are available right now to try and 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: make incremental improvements and handle their assignments their execution better 125 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: versus making I don't want to say wholesale changes because 126 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: you just don't have that option in the National Football 127 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 1: League with a fifty three man roster plus practice squad. 128 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: But there are other levers they can pull, whether it's 129 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: Lanto McCutcheon or two two at well, I mean, there 130 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: are other directions they can go with no promises that 131 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna yield better results. How do you see that 132 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: playing out again with a limited practice time before the 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys arrive. Yeah, I think that they'll sort it 134 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: out in you know, the best way possible, just you know, 135 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: maybe getting you know, two two involved again. I mean, 136 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: I know he was inactive against the forty nine ers, 137 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: but McVay indicating this press conference this week, both at 138 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: least on Tuesday, that this was something that was you know, 139 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: not that was just exclusive for last week, and it 140 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily mean or it isn't necessarily indicative of his status, um, 141 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: you know, or his involvement for this week. So um, 142 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's two too, whether whether it's Lance, 143 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: whether it's Ben Scronic. Uh there there are certainly you know, 144 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: many ways or even Alan Robinson. Of course, there are 145 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: many ways that um, you know, you can get guys 146 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: involved in um you know. As as as Erica mentioned earlier, 147 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: I have no doubt that McVeagh is working tirelessly to 148 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: figure out what the best option and best approach is 149 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: there if you can coach your way out of this. Boy, 150 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm literally looking at the available roster and 151 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what other directions they might go. 152 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: You want to play more tight ends, try and extend 153 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: your blocking surface doesn't help you in the interior, and 154 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: you only have two of them anyway, right, I know 155 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You're gonna have to come up 156 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: with something imaginative, not just XS and o's to get 157 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: the ball to Cooper cup or to get it to 158 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: uh to two out, well, you're gonna have to find 159 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: some creative ways to keep that pass rush off your quarterback. 160 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: So maybe some stuff you haven't done before. So personnel wise, 161 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: like you said, the cavalry isn't coming, but XS and 162 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: O wise, I cannot wait to see what McVeigh does 163 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: to cover up that weakness. Stuart What about on defense 164 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: in terms of the health and availability, especially in the secondary. 165 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: What do we know about Week five? Yeah, Well, unfortunately, 166 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: as has been a prevailing storyline throughout this season, the 167 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 1: injury bug bites the secondary again, and Jordan Fuller unfortunately 168 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: strained his hamstring against the forty nine ers and so 169 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 1: that's going to sign the sideline him for two to 170 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: four weeks, and so that's obviously going to impact, you know, 171 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: how they do things at safety and in the secondary overall. 172 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Rapp is also dealing with a rib injury that 173 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: caused him to leave the forty nine ers game early, 174 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: but McVay said that's not expected to impact his status. 175 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: So you'll at least have or you should have obviously 176 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: a healthy Nick Scott, and you should have Taylor rap 177 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: available as well. Now what does that mean? Do you 178 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: have Terrell Burgess more involved? Does he see an increased 179 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,320 Speaker 1: role or you know, do you do things differently there? 180 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: We'll see. But um, yeah, again, unfortunately, Uh, you know, 181 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Fuller dealing with that hamstring injury is a really 182 00:09:09,640 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: tough blow for that secondary. Erica, do you think the 183 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 1: defense played well enough to win at San Francisco two? 184 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: Big bus that led to touchdowns, of course, but on 185 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 1: most nights they allowed a few enough points for their 186 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:22,839 Speaker 1: offense to clear that bar and come away with a victory. Yeah, 187 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean there was no offensive touchdowns, so I think 188 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: on the defense side, besides those two bus, I mean, 189 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner had a great goal line stop and tackle 190 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: that I think is great. And yes, those two big 191 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: plays we were definitely a punch to the gut when 192 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: they when they happened. But otherwise, yeah, Jalen Ramsey got 193 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: that that five on it and he stopped the ball 194 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: out of the way, which was great. And I think 195 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: that the team, the team played pretty well besides those 196 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: two glaring you know issues that happened. I don't like 197 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: you right now. You made me smile, Ricky. That's why 198 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying not to smile. But come on, man, I mean, 199 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: Garoppolo was on fire. He wasn't touched, he wasn't sacked. 200 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: How do you touch him when he doesn't hold the 201 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: football for two seconds? You gotta get you gotta get pressure. 202 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: You gotta get pressure. You gotta SnCH up. There's I mean, 203 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 1: he's got to let the left Aaron unblocked on a rep, 204 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: and he still couldn't get there. I know, you gotta 205 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 1: have more than just Aaron That. That's another issue. I mean, 206 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: outside of Aaron Donald, who's your best pass rusher. Bobby Wagner, Well, 207 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: he's an inside linebacker. Somebody else red gains, a Sean Robinson, 208 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: Leonard Floyd, somebody else has got to pick up. I 209 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: guess the scraps that Aaron Donald leaves behind. You've gotta 210 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: get more pressure on the quarterback from other from other areas. 211 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: Looking at the Cowboys, it's a Cooper against Cooper. Who's 212 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: Cooper can be best? On Sunday at Sofi Stadium in 213 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: Week five. This Cooper rush story remind you of anything 214 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: in your past? De Marco, I wonder little bet, a 215 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: little bet somebody. I think they made a movie about it, 216 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, called the Underdog Story Kurt Warner. Because I did. 217 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: I went back and I watched like almost every rep 218 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: that he took, and it looks like he's been the 219 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: starter since August, Like it looks like he's born to 220 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: do it, like this has been Dallas from July on. 221 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not too big for him. He sees 222 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: in the opportunity and he's got some really good weapons 223 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: out and around him. And oh, by the way, dan 224 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Quinn on the other side, his defense is playing like gangbusters. 225 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: So if they can keep this up by the time 226 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: Dak is healthy, there's going to be a controversy in Dallas. 227 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully the Rams will get by them on Sunday, but 228 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 1: there is a chance that Dallas could be undefeated when 229 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott comes back. Are you saying that Dak shouldn't 230 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: play until they lose again? I'm just saying, Look, don't 231 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: mess with a windstreak. Why would you? What's the reason 232 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: to yank him because you want Dak back in there? 233 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: What if you're winning? What have you won six in 234 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: a row? Why pull him? And imagine if Dak goes 235 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: out in this first start and loses. Wow, you're pointing 236 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: about dan Quinn. At least that's a familiar look for 237 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: the Rams offensively right, they've seen them seen him throughout 238 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: their pass despite different personnel this time around for the Cowboys, 239 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: no doubt. Look, I like dan Quinn's he's an Xes 240 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: and O's guy's he's a fire breather. But what he 241 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: does best a coordinator, if you ask me, is he 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: gets out of the way of good players like Michael Parsons. 243 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: He lets them do what they do best. He gets 244 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: after the quarterback better than anyone. I think I called 245 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: him a mobile DJ party. You can set him up 246 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: anywhere right in left D. You can even set him 247 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: up over the center, and he goes out and wins. 248 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: So when you have guys like that, the worst thing 249 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 1: you can do is give them too much and get 250 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: in their way. I got. I was just scrolling through 251 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 1: the NFL research on us to try to find this 252 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: little stat that I saw this morning, which is just 253 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: like blows my mind and sort of plays into the 254 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: QB controversy. We are just saying and then JB, we 255 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: can totally move on. But it says now in his 256 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: sixth NFL season, Rush's career earning sit at four million, 257 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: one tenth of Dak Prescott's forty million annual salary, less 258 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: than Russell Wilson's five million dollar roster bonus for the 259 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two season, and less than twenty seven qbs 260 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: are set to earn in total cash this season, including 261 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield and Mitchell true Bisky. I just was just like, 262 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: are you serious, Jerry Jones must be like licking his lips, 263 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 1: being like, let's just let this kid play because this 264 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: is awesome. Yeah, but Ricky Noah state income tax in 265 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: Texas and he'll never have to pick up a check 266 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 1: ever again in the Dallas Plex. So he's done his part. 267 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: Michael Gallup returned to their lineup last week for the 268 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: first time since his season ending knee injury last year. 269 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 1: But Ceedee LAMBSTU has been there at Cooper Cup. You 270 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 1: look at the target share that he holds, Like Cup 271 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 1: is forty plus percent of the Rams receiving categories. Ceede 272 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: Lamb's the only other NFL player with like thirty percent 273 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: or more. So that should be a great matchup to watch, 274 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: whether it's Ramsey or anyone else in the Ram secondary. Yeah, 275 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: he's going to present a test for the secondary, no doubt. 276 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: They moved The Cowboys moved on from Amari Cooper this 277 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: offseason in part because they strongly believe that Ceedee Lamb 278 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: could and was going to be their wide receiver one. 279 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 1: And he's really taken advantage of that, especially with Cooper 280 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: rush under center, I mean, separation, speed, agility, you name it, 281 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: he's got it and he's shown it at a high 282 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: level this season, So you know, they line him up 283 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: multiple spots, and he's someone that you know has given 284 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: opposing secondaries problems in previous weeks. So he is definitely 285 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: someone that they will have to keep an eye on 286 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: at all times. And like you mentioned, you know, I'm 287 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: curious to see how that looks. I mean, do you 288 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: shadow Jalen or do you just keep Jalen at star 289 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: Obviously they don't keep him in one spot throughout the game, 290 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: but that matchup in particular is one I'm really excited 291 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: about on Sunday Demark. Remember late in the summer, they 292 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: were all worried, we were all worried about Tyron Smith, 293 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl left tackle suffering that significant injury and what 294 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: it would look like if Tyler Smith had to be 295 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: pressed into duty as their full time left tackle. So far, 296 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: so good. He's been a Newcomer of the Year candidate. Yeah, 297 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: he's not bad. He's a pretty good player. And I 298 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: have to say this. We talked about Lamb, we talked 299 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: about Cooper Rush. Don't sleep on Zeke Elliott. He's still 300 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: the tip of the spear there. So if just in 301 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: case he's watching. So they're gonna pace the offense with 302 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: a good dose of a run game to see if 303 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: you can stop it. And when you look at what 304 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: Sam Friend did, they popped the long run. So that's 305 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: gonna have been salivating. Maybe we can do the same 306 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 1: thing and they'll keep hitting you with it because, like 307 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: I said, he's a high paid guy on that football team. 308 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: But definitely, I think the offensive line was supposed to 309 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: take a step back a little bit, especially at left tackle. 310 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: Guy looks pretty good. So you would hope that some 311 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: of that stuff we saw from the outside linebackers, from 312 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: the rams outside linebackers translate that to the game you 313 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: need to start winning. That was a backup left tackle 314 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: in Sam Frand that you couldn't get around. So here's 315 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: another one. Let's see if you can get around this 316 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: guy and put pressure on the quarterback. Let's hope. So 317 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: that Jeff Wilson touchdown run that you dropped there, that 318 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 1: was legit execution. Like I know, you were looking at 319 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: that film forward and backward trying to find it busted 320 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: defensive assignment or something that someone could have done better. 321 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: To answer, you can't see my hand, can you? Because 322 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm giving Kyle Shanahan a symbol of what I feel 323 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: of that play. It was tremendous. I mean, wow, you 324 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: have to rep that to stop it. That's what makes 325 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: him so good. That's what makes McVay so good. Stuff 326 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: He issued one on game day you haven't seen and 327 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: you have to talk about it, then it's crazy. All right, 328 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: One more trip around the room as we turn our 329 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: attention to Week five, Avamo's RAMS Day at Sofi Stadium. 330 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: Hope you can join us in Englewood, the Cowboys and 331 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. I'll just kind of give you 332 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: guys a second to think about your final thought on 333 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: my mind is what the Cowboys have meant to the 334 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: Rams return to Los Angeles. There have been so many 335 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of critical junctures, including the first ever preseason game 336 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: show my face, first ever playoff game at the coliseum 337 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: opening Sofi Stadium, I'll be it in front of no 338 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: fans with the victory a couple of years ago. Here's 339 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: hoping that there's another inflection point in the Rams twenty 340 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: twenty two campaign, in part because of the Dallas Cowboys. 341 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: Who wants to go next? Who's got a closing for 342 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: us on Rams Cowboys? She's gonna make me smile, But 343 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: we'll go to Ricky. I don't mind. I don't know. 344 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: Now the pressure is on to make you smile to Marco, 345 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: but that that's easy. We're all going to be together 346 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday. We're gonna be in so Fi. It's gonna 347 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: feel awesome. We're back home. That's great. I just wanted 348 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:24,239 Speaker 1: to piggyback off of your talking about Zeke Elliott too, Like, 349 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: don't forget about Tony Pollard either. That one two punch 350 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: He's He's been looking pretty explosive for the past two years, 351 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: and there's been arguments saying that maybe Zeke didn't deserve 352 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: that contract and it should have been Tony Pollard. Any So, 353 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: when you've got that double punch coming at running back, 354 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 1: that's definitely something that the Rams need to be worried about. 355 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: And Erica, if our fans are looking for more Rams content, 356 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: Ram Jam this week with Jordan Rodrigue. Yes out now amazing, 357 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, stew to you. I think the 358 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: first thing for me is just it'll be nice to 359 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: be back at home after back to back road games. 360 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: I'm very excited for that. I think also too, I'm 361 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: as I mentioned before, I'm really curious and interested to 362 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: see how this offensive line looks on Sunday, This Rams 363 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: offensive line, I should specify, you know they're still working 364 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: through that right now, obviously given all the moving parts there. 365 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:20,479 Speaker 1: But um, I imagine that group, you know, given how 366 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: last week when is probably going to have a very 367 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: big chip on their shoulder to prove that you know, 368 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 1: that was just an aberration and that they can you know, 369 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: protect Stafford and that you know they can play to 370 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: the level of standard or the high level of play 371 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: and the standard of play that they know they're capable of. Well, 372 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: two things. One with Jordan Fuller, I hate hamstrings. I 373 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 1: saw Isaac Bruce go through this. They're so tricky. You 374 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: feel great and then all of a sudden you don't. 375 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: And about Taylor rapping the rib, was that before or 376 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: after Debo's touchdown? Because I think he was on the 377 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: field right and we were shocked when he was on 378 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: the sideline. I need to know this. But third of all, hey, 379 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: look we talked earlier. I think it was the first BTh. 380 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: We're not gonna say defending champion, We're gonna say reigning champion. Right, Well, 381 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: this is the part where you're defending, you're defending what 382 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: was and what you are. So you took one on 383 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: the chain versus San Francisco on Monday night by everyone 384 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 1: saw it. Now you have a chance to get right 385 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: versus Dallas, who is pretty much streaking, so everyone's counting 386 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: you out. But I do remember a game last year 387 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: and versus Arizona when it looks dire. Remember that game, 388 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 1: it looked dire, and then the Rams all of a 389 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: sudden up jumped and beat them and turned themselves. So 390 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: that team is still alive, that emotion, that passion is 391 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: still there. Hopefully we'll get to see it on Sunday 392 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,959 Speaker 1: and so far because you know what the environment's gonna be. 393 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: So this is a get right game. This is gonna 394 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. So let's hope Sean McVay 395 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: and company can figure out the right XS and o's 396 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: to call against the Cowboys. Humility always a week away 397 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: in the National Football League, but so is redemption right 398 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 1: to Marco, no doubt six days this week, right, all right? 399 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 1: Pretty fire for stud Jackson and Ricky Hollywood. I'm JB. Long. 400 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining for this week five edition of 401 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: Between the Horns, presented by your Southern California Toyota dealer, 402 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: hope to see you at so far