Speaker 1: All right, let's do it. Brand new second Date and update.
Speaker 2: And yeah, man, this is one of those where the
Speaker 2: first part where we're just talking to him seems so normal.
Speaker 1: Did I like, yeah, key, keep coming bye? Yeah, my goodness.
Speaker 2: So you're in for a real treat, a real schmortsport
Speaker 2: of things that have went wrong on this one.
Speaker 1: But before we get to that, let's go to comments.
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Speaker 1: This is what I do with breaking bad. I binge.
Speaker 4: The whole thing took me months and then I came
Speaker 4: down to the last few episodes I couldn't do it.
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. This is never ending. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Literally, we have a new episode. Okay, Monday through.
Speaker 1: You're going to quit on us before we quit on you.
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Speaker 1: new second Date starts right now. Brook and Jeffrey in
Speaker 1: the morning Second date updates.
Speaker 4: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning, Second Date Update time,
Speaker 4: and we got I'm excited. What's wrong with that? It's
Speaker 4: time for the second date update?
Speaker 5: Fam.
Speaker 4: Well, we got an email from one of our listeners.
Speaker 4: His name is Charles, and he says he's figured out
Speaker 4: the one question that you should always ask on a
Speaker 4: first date to uncover a potential red flag.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, does this work for bed and women?
Speaker 4: I hope I think so, all right, because that question
Speaker 4: is thumb or no thumb? Well, actually that's my question.
Speaker 4: I don't know which one Charles uses, but I don't.
Speaker 2: Want to know why, So let's just move forward.
Speaker 4: I'll show you later. But let's ask Charles since he's
Speaker 4: on the phone right now. Charles, was that the question?
Speaker 4: Did I guess it right? I thought you were going
Speaker 4: to say, Charles, that's good, you can still Yeah. Do
Speaker 4: you have a preference, Charles?
Speaker 5: Oh, I guess I prefer song.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's my man. I knew I liked you all right.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 4: What is the question that you always ask on a
Speaker 4: first date to uncover red flags?
Speaker 5: Oh? For first dates, I always ask what did you
Speaker 5: learn from your last relationship?
Speaker 4: Interesting?
Speaker 5: Why so I hope that they're not trying to like
Speaker 5: bad talk their X because that's kind of an immature thing.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, oh they were so there were
Speaker 5: the worst.
Speaker 4: They treat me so bad, charls.
Speaker 1: Have you never had a bad ex? Is that what's
Speaker 1: going on? Because let me tell you there's some out
Speaker 1: there that deserve a little smack talk.
Speaker 4: Well, why so Brooke is disagreeing with you? Why does
Speaker 4: that send off red flags for you?
Speaker 5: Well, because it says they're the type of person who
Speaker 5: blames someone else for their problems and a lot of
Speaker 5: negativity comes out.
Speaker 4: Okay, I mean I.
Speaker 1: Can see that. I mean you are the one that
Speaker 1: asked the question about the ex. But yes, I can
Speaker 1: see that. I can see that.
Speaker 3: Like maybe depending how long they go off about their export,
Speaker 3: you could tell if they're not over them.
Speaker 2: Like they cheated on me and this and this' But
Speaker 2: you I gave to your fairness.
Speaker 1: You're not asking about who you dated. You're asking about
Speaker 1: what you learned.
Speaker 4: Right, Are you able to move forward from using that's
Speaker 4: an interesting question. I'm assuming you had this conversation with
Speaker 4: the woman that we're going to be trying to call today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, her name is Maggie. We met on the app.
Speaker 4: And what did she say about her ex?
Speaker 5: She gave like a really mature answer. She needs more
Speaker 5: personal space for herself and it's healthy to have a
Speaker 5: couple of times and also you know alone time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, aka, that guy was clingy.
Speaker 4: But she framed it the right way. But I hear Maggie,
Speaker 4: all right, green flag for her, and I'm assuming you
Speaker 4: went on a date with her. Tell us about it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wanted to be a gentleman, so I went
Speaker 5: and picked her from work.
Speaker 4: From her work, Please tell me she knew you were
Speaker 4: picking her up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, she knew I was going to come to
Speaker 5: figure her up. I drew up a little early, but
Speaker 5: you know.
Speaker 2: I just typically you like to look your best, and
Speaker 2: coming right off an eight hour shift is not going
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 1: Kind of smarter her part, because you could pull the
Speaker 1: I'm tired.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 1: What was it like the first time you guys meet
Speaker 1: in person?
Speaker 5: She was nice. I liked her a lot. She had
Speaker 5: a warm presence. I got to see her work a
Speaker 5: little bit and help customers do her thing with the animals.
Speaker 1: She will hang it out that she wasn't done with
Speaker 1: her shift. When you got there, you.
Speaker 4: Said you got there a little early.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I got there early.
Speaker 1: Where'd you stand? You didn't wait in the car.
Speaker 5: It was a big store. There was a lot of
Speaker 5: stuff to look at.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, you're just wandering around.
Speaker 1: My date's wandering around the aisles of my workplace and.
Speaker 4: Okay, but eventually her shift must end and you go
Speaker 4: out for whatever the date is. What'd you do?
Speaker 5: I drove her uh to eat and the date didn't perfectly.
Speaker 5: I did have to use the restroom multiple times because
Speaker 5: my allergies were acting up when.
Speaker 4: You were at the restaurant eating.
Speaker 5: Yeah, was it enough.
Speaker 1: Where it bothered her? Did she indicate that in any way?
Speaker 5: I don't think so. But I wasn't at the table
Speaker 5: for part of the time. I just wanted to be
Speaker 5: more present for her.
Speaker 2: Well, remember she said she wanted some space from the
Speaker 2: last guy, So maybe this isn't a bad mood seeing
Speaker 2: a bunch of.
Speaker 4: Okay, so you're accidentally giving her some alone time that
Speaker 4: she asked for and some couple time. But you said
Speaker 4: it didn't go perfect. Why do you mention that?
Speaker 5: Well, after the meal, I had some car trouble, but
Speaker 5: I got that figure it out.
Speaker 4: What do you mean car car trouble.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it was just a weird thing. The car
Speaker 5: wasn't starting right, but it took like ten minutes to
Speaker 5: figure out.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're a car guy, you're able to fix it.
Speaker 4: Oh maybe that shows.
Speaker 5: Where you're kind to a handyman. Yeah. Yeah. And as
Speaker 5: we were driving, I thought, let's go through something else,
Speaker 5: passed by an outdoor mall, and she said she didn't
Speaker 5: feel like staying out. I got the vibe that nothing
Speaker 5: was going well, so dropped her back off. I know
Speaker 5: this didn't end well, but self awareness, good job.
Speaker 4: A lot of guys here.
Speaker 5: At least you knew it wasn't going well.
Speaker 4: You cut your losses. You didn't keep trying to extend
Speaker 4: a bat.
Speaker 3: I feel like just suggesting Outdromal in the first place
Speaker 3: was not getting the vibe.
Speaker 5: I mean, maybe she was tired from working all day
Speaker 5: and just needed a break.
Speaker 2: Not to mention, she probably felt like she smelled like
Speaker 2: a hamster, you know, like hamsters are what those pet
Speaker 2: stores smell like. He stuck on the smell, Well, I do,
Speaker 2: I just picturing him dropping her back off at work.
Speaker 2: I assume that's what happened because her car was probably
Speaker 2: is that what happened?
Speaker 4: Charles?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's where her car was.
Speaker 4: And how did you two leave? It was there like
Speaker 4: a hug or a kiss or I don't think anyway,
Speaker 4: a hamster nuzzle? How do you end a date with her?
Speaker 5: I tried to get out of the car and opened
Speaker 5: the door for her, you know, to be a gentleman,
Speaker 5: but she was already out the door.
Speaker 4: And or oh oh whoa.
Speaker 5: She did wave at me while she left the parking
Speaker 5: lot wave.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so maybe you're reading it right. The date
Speaker 4: wasn't going that great. What's happened since then?
Speaker 5: I tried to ask her out for another tang and
Speaker 5: she's not responding.
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay. Before we go, can I just ask you
Speaker 1: your question? What have you learned from this first day?
Speaker 5: Maybe I should have taken some flow naves before the date.
Speaker 4: Let's see what's going on with Maggie here, because like
Speaker 4: you said, it didn't go perfectly, but I think there's
Speaker 4: enough to salvage it. We'll see if we can make
Speaker 4: it happen when we come back and do your second
Speaker 4: date update.
Speaker 3: Right after hold on Brooke and Jeffrey in the morning
Speaker 3: Second Date Updates.
Speaker 4: It's Brook and Jeffrey in the morning. Time to recap
Speaker 4: part one of the Second Date Update with our listener Charles.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is time, Jeffrey.
Speaker 4: I do think it was kind of funny that Brooke
Speaker 4: found it so odd that Charles pulled a gentleman move
Speaker 4: and arrived early to pick her up for the date.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just it's not odd.
Speaker 2: It's just that a girl wants to like freshen up
Speaker 2: after work, but he was in the store waiting for her,
Speaker 2: so she had to go meeting Like it's it's not
Speaker 2: where I would want to be seen for the first
Speaker 2: time by a person.
Speaker 1: I'm just meeting.
Speaker 5: I get that. I get that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was just trying to be timely.
Speaker 6: Uh huh.
Speaker 4: So I don't think he meant to make her uncomfortable
Speaker 4: on anything but that they went out to eat, and
Speaker 4: he admits it wasn't a perfect date. His allergies were
Speaker 4: acting up, he had car trouble, and in the end
Speaker 4: he didn't even have a chance to give her a
Speaker 4: proper goodbye, probably because she wanted to wash that hamster
Speaker 4: smell off that Brooke was talking about. And now he's
Speaker 4: having trouble even arranging a second meetup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she gave him a wave from her car.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but at least she acknowledged you on the way out, Charles,
Speaker 4: and that's got to feel good.
Speaker 5: Yes, right, Yeah, maybe I should have a shower first
Speaker 5: or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you shouldn't encourage that as soon as she gets
Speaker 4: in the car, you know. Yeah, there we go, just
Speaker 4: a car wash. They get on top of.
Speaker 1: The vehicle, driving through, roll the windows down.
Speaker 5: I really just like to know what happened. Maybe I
Speaker 5: could learn something from this. Maybe I got red flags
Speaker 5: I don't know about.
Speaker 2: You're a guy who loves some self improvement and we
Speaker 2: can definitely appreciate.
Speaker 4: But okay, lets try it. I'm gonna don Maggie and
Speaker 4: we'll see if she answers. Here we go. Hello, Hey
Speaker 4: is this Maggie?
Speaker 6: Yeah? Who's this?
Speaker 4: Hey, Maggie. This is a radio show called Brook and
Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 6: It's a radio show.
Speaker 1: M hm, Yes, Welcome to the big time, Maggie.
Speaker 4: We are proud to say we're all over this country international,
Speaker 4: haven't been ca yet, so we're doing this segment we do.
Speaker 4: It's called a second Date Update, and we'd like you
Speaker 4: to be on it.
Speaker 2: How about no, wait, wait, wait, don't you want to
Speaker 2: hear what it's all about?
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I really shouldn't have even asked you
Speaker 4: the question because you're already on it.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: One of our listeners, Charles asked us to reach out
Speaker 4: to you.
Speaker 6: Oh my, oh my god.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now that type of response indicates that there may be
Speaker 2: something Charles can learn from you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's eager to find out what that might
Speaker 4: be because when we spoke to Charles before this, he
Speaker 4: admitted he felt like your date wasn't perfect.
Speaker 6: Uh yeah, you could probably say that.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you guys are on the same page. That's great.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 4: He's wondering if there's anything specific that happened that was
Speaker 4: a turn off to you, because he'd like to learn
Speaker 4: from it.
Speaker 6: H Okay, I don't even know where to start.
Speaker 1: I have an idea, Maggie.
Speaker 2: Can you just start where you're at work and Charles
Speaker 2: walks through the door at the pet store.
Speaker 6: Oh so he told you that part?
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was going through your mind? Well?
Speaker 6: Okay, first of all, he was supposed to pick me
Speaker 6: up for our date after my work, right, he showed
Speaker 6: up before my ships had even started and stayed there
Speaker 6: all day.
Speaker 2: We wait started hold up, he said he got there
Speaker 2: a little early.
Speaker 1: We had assumed fifteen minutes literally hours early.
Speaker 6: He showed up for our dates.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, are you telling all of your coworkers?
Speaker 1: What's he doing to just walking the aisles?
Speaker 6: Like literally he just walked up and down the aisles
Speaker 6: of the pet store for like four hours? Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh wow?
Speaker 4: Okay, weird.
Speaker 2: You know what, if he would have started the story
Speaker 2: more specifically, we would have not had to make this call.
Speaker 4: I feel like, yes, but you do. We heard you
Speaker 4: do end up going on the date with him. How
Speaker 4: does that go?
Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, you don't need a waffle house.
Speaker 2: Oh and it wasn't in the morning and you weren't intoxicated.
Speaker 4: So are you not a breakfast for dinner?
Speaker 5: Fan?
Speaker 4: Is that how I'm reading this?
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean it's not like your typical date
Speaker 6: night restaurant.
Speaker 1: You know, you should you should?
Speaker 4: Okay, So what happens at waffle house?
Speaker 6: Well, mostly he just like blew his nose repeatedly.
Speaker 1: Oh now, I will say he did bring that up.
Speaker 1: That wasn't his fault. He had allergies.
Speaker 6: So I mean, you don't do it at the table,
Speaker 6: just like, excuse yourself, go to the bathroom.
Speaker 1: I mean I think he had already felt like he
Speaker 1: was going to the bathroom.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't want to leave you alone for two longs.
Speaker 4: So that's definitely on him.
Speaker 2: Like you've already spent six hours together at this point
Speaker 2: because he was at your job for so long.
Speaker 4: Yes, so well.
Speaker 6: I mean the most embarrassing thing is what happened when
Speaker 6: we tried to leave. His car completely broke down in
Speaker 6: the parking lot at the waffle house.
Speaker 1: Oh right, Okay, that's not embarrassing. That happens. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: can't control his car.
Speaker 2: I will say, there's a lot of other things that
Speaker 2: I don't agree with him on, but the allergies in
Speaker 2: the car stuff, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, what do you do?
Speaker 6: I get it. That kind of stuff happens, you know.
Speaker 6: But our waitress had to come outside and give him
Speaker 6: a jump. And this is the waitress that he literally
Speaker 6: tipped in loose coins.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, the waitress from the restaurant had to fix
Speaker 4: his car.
Speaker 6: Yes, it was so embarrassing, Like, I mean, he didn't
Speaker 6: even kip this waitress. Well, and now she has to
Speaker 6: come outside and get like.
Speaker 1: Guys, what the economy is not great. It's hard for
Speaker 1: people out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hey, guys, I'm here. I'd like to say a
Speaker 5: few things.
Speaker 1: I think that's why.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we probably need to hear from you, because Maggie,
Speaker 4: you might not realize this, but Charles has been on
Speaker 4: the line for this entire call.
Speaker 1: Oh he was waiting like he likes to do before
Speaker 1: you were ever on the call.
Speaker 4: He was here three time.
Speaker 1: God.
Speaker 4: Okay, Charles, dude.
Speaker 5: First of all, I borrowed that car. It wasn't mind
Speaker 5: that broke down. It belonged to my cousin.
Speaker 4: Okay, does that help anything?
Speaker 2: Get close in the mouth here and blame the cousins.
Speaker 4: I mean, Charles, according to your theory, that's a red
Speaker 4: flag to blame other people for your own problems.
Speaker 5: Yes, if my cousin, I'm not dating him.
Speaker 2: Oh, you're not romantically evolved likelies to exes.
Speaker 4: Okay, But so that that car wasn't yours and the
Speaker 4: problems it had weren't your fault. Do you actually own
Speaker 4: your own car?
Speaker 5: No? People that own cars are stupid.
Speaker 1: Oh oh okay, so yours is also dumb.
Speaker 6: But you can't say a lot of things are stupid,
Speaker 6: like he asked me what the last two books I
Speaker 6: read were, and I told him The Hunger Games and Twilight.
Speaker 6: He told me those books are for stupid people.
Speaker 1: Oh, oh, god, Arlo, why would you say that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I prefer the Daventry code. That's just a personal preference.
Speaker 2: Dan Brown is going to talk about like high literature, Harry,
Speaker 2: that's all on the same.
Speaker 4: Level, my man. Well, okay, books and stupid people and
Speaker 4: car owners aside. Can we go back to the pet store?
Speaker 1: Oh he's got to skip over the change tip? All right.
Speaker 4: I want to know, Charles, why would you be there
Speaker 4: before her shift even started that day and.
Speaker 5: Assume me I'm early to things. God, get a.
Speaker 2: Little defensive, which does not sound like a man who's
Speaker 2: learning from past relationships.
Speaker 6: You know what. Another thing that you guys should know.
Speaker 6: He stole stuff from my work?
Speaker 4: What what?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you start with that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So what what did he steal?
Speaker 6: They have these pet key chains that are hanging up
Speaker 6: by the register. There's literally a video of him taking one.
Speaker 5: He stole a bro he's still a key change Charles, Well,
Speaker 5: I thought they were free. They look cheap.
Speaker 4: He stole a cheap looking thing.
Speaker 3: You don't even have a car key to put on it.
Speaker 4: Care well, all right, so if we just look at
Speaker 4: the overview of this date, Charles shows up a little
Speaker 4: bit early to it, accidentally steals stuff from the store.
Speaker 1: You're gonna recap right before you ask her if she
Speaker 1: wants to.
Speaker 4: Just to make sure we have all the facts straight.
Speaker 4: And then then he thoughtfully plans a very nice date
Speaker 4: to an iconic American establishment. We ride hard for them,
Speaker 4: but then his borrowed car breaks down in the parking
Speaker 4: lot and the waitress who he tipped and change to
Speaker 4: jump it, has to come out and do it for him. Man,
Speaker 4: So some positives and negatives, for sure, But if we
Speaker 4: just focus on the positives, Maggie, we think Charles could
Speaker 4: be a great fixer up, doesn't we Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because every person deserves a fixer upper.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like the car that he was driving. And so
Speaker 4: we would like to offer to send you out on
Speaker 4: another date with him, and if you would agree to it,
Speaker 4: we'd pay for it.
Speaker 2: Now we do have to check on the cousin's car
Speaker 2: if it's available.
Speaker 6: What do you think, Maggie, You know, I think I'm
Speaker 6: good because you also forgot about the part where he
Speaker 6: said it's the books that I read were stupid.
Speaker 4: That was a lot, Charles, Charles, do you feel like
Speaker 4: you learned what you came here to learn?
Speaker 5: I feel like she just doesn't understand things from my perspective.
Speaker 4: Yes, there we go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brook and Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 4: I kind of blame you on this one, Brook, what
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest. What I mean when the guy
Speaker 4: said that he showed up early for the date, why
Speaker 4: didn't you ask? Do you mean five minutes early or
Speaker 4: five hours early? You were the one who clocked the
Speaker 4: earliness as a problem. You got to dive deeper.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm sorry, thank you. This guy just seems to
Speaker 1: me like the guy who's going to write a self.
Speaker 2: Help book, you know, like he's not going to listen
Speaker 2: to anybody else's advice, but he sure is good at
Speaker 2: doling it out.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean there's a whole You're right, there's
Speaker 4: a whole book of things that you shouldn't do on
Speaker 4: it date. Yes, just listen to this and you'll figure
Speaker 4: it out for yourself.
Speaker 2: I mean, just ticking all those red flag boxes over
Speaker 2: and over again, that man.
Speaker 4: Except for waffle house. That was the one good choice
Speaker 4: that we made. Yes, Bro, come on, we stand for
Speaker 4: waffle House and we stand for helping out. Our listeners
Speaker 4: email the show. We can call that person who's not
Speaker 4: calling you back.