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Speaker 1: You're listening to the second and final part of Unexplained,

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Speaker 1: Season seven, episode twelve, The Jungle Never Sleeps. It's the

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Speaker 1: morning of June eleventh, twenty fourteen, roughly ten kilometers north

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Speaker 1: of the Mirrodor lookout point where Lizana Froun and Chris

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Speaker 1: Kramer's were last thought to have been heading before they

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Speaker 1: disappeared ten weeks ago. IAmA Mirando, from the local Lingabe community,

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Speaker 1: is heading to the banks of the Kulebra River, just

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Speaker 1: to the north of Boccette, where Lizana and Chris had

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Speaker 1: been staying. The river runs more or less due north

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Speaker 1: from the Mirrordor, the exact opposite direction of the word

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Speaker 1: Culebra translates to snake in English or serpent, the perfect

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Speaker 1: name to describe the twisting, winding path that it cuts

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Speaker 1: through the jungle. As Irma approaches it, the river is

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Speaker 1: full and fast flowing, the air warm and laden with mist.

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Speaker 1: As she will later explain, Irma has come to the

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Speaker 1: river to bathe. She usually prefers a more secluded creek

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Speaker 1: a little closer to her home, but for whatever reason,

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Speaker 1: on this day, she is here, and as she draws

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Speaker 1: closer to the bank, she notices something blue, caught up

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Speaker 1: in a pile of driftwood between some boulders at the

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Speaker 1: water's edge. It is quite clearly a rucksack. Inside, among

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Speaker 1: other items, she finds a passport. She takes it out

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Speaker 1: and flicks to the back page, where she finds the

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Speaker 1: face of a young woman with ash blonde hair staring

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Speaker 1: back at her. The name beside it reads Lizana Froun.

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Speaker 1: Later that day, Imma delivers the rucksack to a local

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Speaker 1: police station. The bag is in good condition, with the

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Speaker 1: exception of a few tears in the fabric, an indication

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Speaker 1: perhaps that it had been dragged along the ground at

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Speaker 1: some point, either while someone was wearing it or after

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Speaker 1: it had been removed. Strangely, it is reportedly dry and

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Speaker 1: its contents in relatively good condition, despite being found on

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Speaker 1: the banks of a river in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: rainy season and the material of the bag not being waterproof.

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Speaker 1: It is the first concrete clue in the case since

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Speaker 1: the young women disappeared. Lezana Frun's passport and bank cart

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Speaker 1: identify the bag as having belonged to her then, as

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Speaker 1: well as two pairs of sunglasses, over eighty dollars in cash,

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Speaker 1: and two brands. Inside they find two phones, an iPhone

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Speaker 1: belonging to Chris and a Samsung Galaxy belonging to Lisana,

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Speaker 1: but also Loisana's camera with its memory card still in place.

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Speaker 1: The bag is a huge find in the context of

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Speaker 1: the case, but it also proves to be a missed opportunity.

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Speaker 1: Examiners from the Dutch Forensic Institute will later discover more

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Speaker 1: than thirty unidentified fingerprints on the bag and its contents,

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Speaker 1: from where first Imma Mirando touched it, then the police,

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Speaker 1: then numerous others who rifled through it soon after it

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Speaker 1: was found. Because Panamanian investigators failed to take prints of

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Speaker 1: people related to the case, suspicious or outlying prints are

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Speaker 1: not identified. DNA swabs are taken from the bag, but

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Speaker 1: only seem to deepen the mystery. DNA belonging to four

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Speaker 1: separate individuals is found, with at least two being female,

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Speaker 1: but neither are Leixanafroun or Chris Kramer's, and when the

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Speaker 1: samples are run through the Panama police database, no match

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Speaker 1: is found for them. Attention turns then to the phones

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Speaker 1: and the camera. There is evidence there, no doubt, but

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Speaker 1: it is fraught with its own complications, so much of

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Speaker 1: this story is comparable to a walk into the jungle,

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Speaker 1: perhaps the very same walk that Lizana and Chris embarked upon. First,

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Speaker 1: there is a trail things pieced together from their time

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Speaker 1: in Bocchus and Bockhete, the messages home to fre and family,

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Speaker 1: and the accounts of their host family and trip organizers.

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Speaker 1: But as soon as they leave Bockette and head into

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Speaker 1: the cloud forest, the trail becomes complicated. It becomes harder

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Speaker 1: to penetrate the truth through the dark, overgrown tangle of story.

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Speaker 1: All that can be done, of course, is to try

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Speaker 1: and retrace the steps their steps, and piece together what

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Speaker 1: little clues there are. But even then, when a pathway

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Speaker 1: seems to open up, perhaps it is in fact nothing

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Speaker 1: path has now vanished, suddenly leaving us stranded and lost

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Speaker 1: and clutching at straws for what it's worth. The call

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Speaker 1: records of the phones make for distress reading. Roughly six

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Speaker 1: hours after they began their walk, at four thirty nine PM,

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Speaker 1: a call was made from Chris's phone to the international

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Speaker 1: emergency number one one two. Twelve minutes later, Liizana's phone

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Speaker 1: A third attempt to reach one one two is made

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Speaker 1: by Leizana's phone on April the second, at ten fifty

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Speaker 1: two days after the women disappeared, Chris's phone makes another

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Speaker 1: is switched off. The following day, that phone runs out

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Speaker 1: of battery. Over the next seven days, Chris's phone is

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Speaker 1: turned on and off intermittently, perhaps in an effort to

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Speaker 1: ten days after the women vanished, Chris's phone is turned

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Speaker 1: Once again, the PIN number is entered incorrectly. The phone

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Speaker 1: off at eleven fifty six a M. It had twenty

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Speaker 1: two percent battery left. The failed pin attempts seemed to

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Speaker 1: present three possibilities. One that Chris Kramer's, for whatever reason

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Speaker 1: by this point, was no longer in possession of her phone.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps she had died or become separated from Losana, and

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Speaker 1: it was Lisana, whose own phone had by then run

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Speaker 1: out of battery, who tried unsuccessfully to use Chris's phone.

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Speaker 1: The second possibility is that a third person was trying

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Speaker 1: but after the best part of a week without food

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Speaker 1: own pin. Possibilities three pathways to the truth, each stretching

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Speaker 1: it is a tantalizing set of clues that reveals so

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Speaker 1: much and so little at the same time. All hopes

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Speaker 1: are then pinned on the camera's memory card. Thankfully, it's

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Speaker 1: first batch of photos are very much what you'd expect

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Speaker 1: from a tourist venturing out on an exciting trip to Panama.

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Speaker 1: There are pictures of the two women leaving at the airport,

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Speaker 1: the Starfish on a white, sandy beach. There are pictures

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Speaker 1: There are pictures too, of Lisana and Chris's hike into

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Speaker 1: The sky is blue and clear, you can see where

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Speaker 1: the sun bakes them. They're on top of the world,

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Speaker 1: their faces so alive with joy, while behind them the

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Speaker 1: about the last few photos taken that day, taken around

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Speaker 1: corps was attempted. The setting seems to have changed. The

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Speaker 1: the camera was hers, most of the photos taken up

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Speaker 1: to and including the day the women went missing were

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Speaker 1: taken by Lesana. Almost all of them feature Chris, and

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to think a third party was present.

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Speaker 1: Throughout Chris is normally laughing and beaming for the camera,

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Speaker 1: They're blurrier than the others, the images seeming further away,

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say, but she's definitely not beaming any longer.

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Speaker 1: Some have suggested that these last few photos are clear

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Speaker 1: evidence that Lisana and Chris ended up on one of

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Speaker 1: those other trails, the ones not maintained by National Park rangers,

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Speaker 1: Just under three hours later, the first of the many

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Speaker 1: distress calls are made from Chris's phone. In some ways,

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Speaker 1: Having been turned off for seven days, on April the eighth,

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Speaker 1: over the years. Some have claimed they can detect blood

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