1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Hey leth the listeners take torres here. Stay tuned for 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: the next episode of Lethal Lit. But first, here's a 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: quick word from our sponsor. A got sacred hopes and 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: not has to them? Why is that so? This is 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:28,159 Speaker 1: Jane Ferranti recording for Something in the Water. I'm in 6 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Hollow Falls at the take Back the Falls party as 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: the young residents of this cursed town try to reclaim 8 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: some control, no matter how symbolic, over their own community. 9 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: The event was conceived in hope, but in reality is 10 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: rank with despair, thick with the unavoidable, pervasive truth. Death 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: stalks them all. The murderers have one and Hollow Falls, 12 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: and these young people's lives will forever be tied to 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: the evil at rules here, and that will continue to 14 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 1: rule here. But there's nothing I can do. I stand 15 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: to the side and let them have their moment of hope, 16 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: and don't dare tell them that it's already too late. 17 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: And right on, cue, come on, let's get them out front. 18 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: Lift higher, Max, I'm trying. What's happening, none of your business, Jane, 19 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: Get out of the way. Poisoned? Was there a music 20 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: box accidentally ate some oysters? Shell fish allergy. How do 21 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: you accidentally eat an oyster? They were slippery? Max, you 22 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: stay with Walter. I gotta go help take Why is 23 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: it tig with you? I thought you all made up. 24 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: She's she's downstairs. She got locked in. Huh there was 25 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: a music box, wasn't there? Yes, Okay, there's no time 26 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: for this. I'm coming with you. When wait, the killer 27 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 1: is probably using the back entrance and let's hope by 28 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: the falls follow the trail this way. Audio courtesy of 29 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Jane Ferranti, host of the forthcoming Something in the Water podcast. 30 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Are we working together? Well? After she hears this episode, 31 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: maybe not. I'm tig Torres and this is lethal lit. 32 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: While Max and Wyn we're scrambling to get Walter help. 33 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: I was in a predicament of my own. After weeks 34 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: of phone calls and with some dubiously motivated encouragement from Jane, 35 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I was standing face to face with the guy who, 36 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: last time we saw each other promised me that quote, 37 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: We're going to be in this for the long haul, 38 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Ali Price. And I didn't even know if you were 39 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: going to answer the phone when I gave it to you, 40 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: and and I knew it would seem crazy that it 41 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: was just waiting for you on your doorstep. But it's 42 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: not like I can walk into a ups store, you know. 43 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: And and it was just like, is she gonna hate me? 44 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: And of course you're gonna hate me? You have every 45 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: right to hate me after what I did. But I 46 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: just had to try and take I need to say this. 47 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: You don't have to worry. You don't have to be 48 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: afraid of me that person I was. I'm not that 49 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: that what Levinson tried to turn me into. But it's 50 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: not me. I I shut up, I get it. Just 51 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: stop talking for a second. Okay, where did you come from? 52 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: I was trying to find a place we could talk, 53 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: and then I heard voices coming, so I ducked back 54 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: in here the bootleggers tunnel. How did you know? So? 55 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 1: Confession time? Uh, I kind of already knew the floor 56 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: plan when Levinson left you tied up in the basement. 57 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: Here you were with him. Damn it, Ali, I was 58 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: the one who saved you instead of you know, he 59 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 1: hadn't settled on a book for you yet. I convinced 60 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 1: him it would be a better story to keep playing 61 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: cat and mouse. That's I have very mixed feelings about 62 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: that confession, Ali, But can we dig into that later? 63 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: What voices? Who did you hear? Two people? One man 64 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 1: sounded very agitated, one woman oddly calm. I could hear 65 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: them talking for a couple of minutes. Then he started 66 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: getting short of breath, coughing, choking, and and then I 67 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: think I heard Max's voice over his walkie talkie, and 68 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: then the music box the killer. Why didn't you do anything? 69 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: By the time I put all the pieces together, the 70 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: killer was gone, And I know how strict nine works. 71 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 1: His only hope is that Max and Win can get 72 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: him to the hospital in time. Well, we're not doing 73 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: any good in here, and the doors locked. Where does 74 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: this tunnel go? Tig I thought we could talk after 75 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: the killer's caught Ali. Until then, either help me or 76 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: get out of my way. In that case, right this 77 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: way us, I'm following. When one of the correspondents from 78 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,119 Speaker 1: Lethal it as we tried to say, the show's host, 79 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: tig torres from the hands of the music box killer. 80 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: This is pure excitement, folks. Will you please shut your 81 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: stupid jerk face manners? When I said, please, when slow down, 82 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: I'm here to stop a killer. What are you even 83 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: doing here? What is it? Do you see over there? 84 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: That's the path that leads to the back entrance. So 85 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: so shut up. The killer could be anywhere. Do you 86 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: see anything? Yeah? I think they're supposed to be a 87 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: room back here, somewhere a room. What is all this stuff? 88 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 1: Hang on? See something on the Sisters of Monogue Academy. 89 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: It was the stashed all the leftover junk from the 90 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: school back here when they were renovating. Brock really named 91 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: the school the Sisters of Monogue. That just really, really conceited. 92 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised, though. Wait. What's that glow? Someone's been 93 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: down here? M hm hm. It's an old TV hooked 94 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: up to a cam quarter. Someone must have just been 95 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: down here. It's still playing. Everyone's in uniforms. Looks like 96 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: a school assembly, graduation or something. Hang on, they just 97 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: connected the video. We hook up the sound there. Oh, 98 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: come on, don't need to be so rashful. You look wonderful. 99 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: Oh I don't ah that boys Levinson. Levinson's filming. He 100 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: must have taught at the school. You are a fisher, 101 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: my dear, No, not for like a blim nonsense. Wait, 102 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: is that Walter in the background too? Brock Stephanie, you 103 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: are the only ray of light in this bleak house. Ali, 104 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 1: I have something very important to tell you. I know 105 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: you're not the music box Killer. Oh thank god, I 106 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: knew you. Believe me. I knew that. I know you're 107 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: not the killer because the killer is really here for you. 108 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm following when Abbot, the resident muscle of Tig Torres's crew, 109 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: as we creep down a dimly lit path behind the 110 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: Montague Shane with the music box Killer potentially hidden behind 111 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 1: every corner, stop talking? Oh what who was that? What 112 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: the anything to say to the listeners out there? Denise 113 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: Walter was a sadist. He deserved it the most out 114 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: of any of them. Direct from the mouth of the 115 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: music Box Killer herself, folks, But what drives someone to 116 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: such lengths? What makes them take that final step when 117 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: so many others think about it but never do? What 118 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: makes a killer become a killer? Is this? Are you 119 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: going to use all this? This is golden ni'se Trust me, 120 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: everyone is going to know your name. Hay Lee. The 121 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 1: listeners stay tuned more Ley the Lid is up next, 122 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: But first a quick word from our sponsor, hey Ley, 123 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: the listeners take Torres here There's always more to the mystery, 124 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: and I could use your help getting to the bottom 125 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: of it. Join us on Instagram and TikTok at I 126 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: am tig torres for more clues and inside info. Take take, 127 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: that's crazy? Who want to kill me? Besides when? Maybe Max? 128 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: I hope not you, and I guess all of Levinson's 129 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: victims of family that might blame me. Tell Ella, I 130 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: didn't kill Tony. I was with you, remember Ali, I 131 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: didn't say kill you. That sounded like when it's coming 132 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 1: from the wall. Of course, it's the boot laggers tunnel. 133 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: They must have brought their haul down the river and 134 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: through here. Follow the sound of the falls. This is 135 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: it this way? Are you gonna do? Kill the news? 136 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: Trust me? Everyone is going to learning Take when stay back, Shane, Denise, 137 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: what did you do to win? Don't look at me. 138 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm just here recording. Everyone chill out. No one else 139 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: needs to get hurt tonight. Well, well, well, listeners, a 140 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: new piece has just been added to the board. We 141 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: have answered the burning question. Where is Ali Price? And 142 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: guess what He's right here? Are you going to tell him, Denise? 143 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 1: Or should I tell me? What? Holi? I? I wait? 144 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: You look familiar. Older, yes, but you were that girl 145 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: on the video with Levinson filming. He was so charming 146 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: a first after if you knew the way I grew up, 147 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: and then to have it feel like someone could have 148 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: actually see me. Don't this is too good. We also 149 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: saw who was in the background of the video. Let 150 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: me guess, Walter Stephanie Brock. That's right. The victims of 151 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: the music box Killer. Anything to say, Denise, they all 152 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: deserved it. You have no idea what it was like. 153 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 1: They were all horrible, horrible people. Oh, when I heard 154 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: her voice on her podcast, I came back as soon 155 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: as I could. But I knew, I know you wouldn't 156 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: come out of hiding for nothing, man. And then Jane 157 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: told me she could find you. And Jane was right, 158 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 1: look at you. You're right here, Jane, what you've been. 159 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: Don't focus on me. I'm not the story here. What 160 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: who are you? She said that she could get Tack 161 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: to work with her, and that if you come back, 162 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: if if she could get Tick to work with her, 163 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: what do you want with me? Who are you? The 164 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: name she's been going by is Denise, and she looked 165 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: just different enough, older, different hair, big glasses, to cover 166 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,559 Speaker 1: up her features, and it had been years and memories 167 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 1: get hazy, so no one recognized her. Even if something 168 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: about her seemed familiar, they just dismissed it. It worked. 169 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: Now I'm here with you, Ali, No, where is this going? Ali? 170 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 1: Meet Denise Pembroke a k A Anna killed Dean. No, yes, 171 00:13:56,280 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: it's true. Ali. They made me give you up, all 172 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: of them. I didn't want to give you away, but 173 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: they made me. They They said it was embarrassing to 174 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: me and the school. But was was he punished? No, 175 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: of course not. Instead they gave you to him to 176 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: left the monster, and that's what they had to pay. 177 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: And I knew Brock was only going to be in 178 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: town for a couple of days for the opening, so 179 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: it was gonna be my only chance. And then Stephanie 180 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: had Then Jane told me you were gonna be here, 181 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 1: and Walter was the last name on my list, but 182 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 1: not Levinson himself. I I I couldn't he You're still 183 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: afraid of him. I don't know what it is, but 184 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: every time I hear his voice good, even his name. 185 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: I got out of this place after a while, but 186 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: he still had control of you, and I had to 187 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: do whatever he wanted in order to see you, Ali, 188 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: and he made me do a horrible thing, horrible, horrible thing. 189 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: I can't. Oh, but he's locked up, he's behind bars, 190 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: he can't get to us. Now. He was standing the 191 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: way of us ever being together again. Ali. But but 192 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: that's over now. OHI please please say something. Take I'm sorry, Ali, 193 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Hand me the recorder. Take what please 194 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: from me? And that's when I gave my recorder to Ali. 195 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: I had put myself ahead of the people who mattered 196 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: to me for long enough, and though I couldn't fathom 197 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: everything that was going through Ali's head in that moment, 198 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: he was able to see clearly enough to give me 199 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: a choice. Would I be Mr Hyde, be like Jane, 200 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: putting the story first above the actual people involved, exploiting 201 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: their moments of deepest sadness just to score a few 202 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: more cliques. Or would my humanity win out? Could my 203 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: better impulses triumph? After all Ali had been through in 204 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: his life, and how many times he had fought that 205 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 1: same battle and lost. I knew this wasn't about the recording. 206 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 1: Ali was giving me a chance to save myself. So 207 00:16:55,800 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: I handed it over. But as we already knew I 208 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: wasn't the only one. They're recording. This is better than 209 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:15,399 Speaker 1: I helped. I'm going straight to number one. How could you? 210 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,919 Speaker 1: I didn't want to. He made me. Did you know 211 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: what he was, what he was gonna do to me, 212 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: what he had planned. I couldn't stop him. He's do, 213 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: he's do. You were supposed to protect me, find me, 214 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: steal me back, get me out of his grasp and 215 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: said you left. You ran after we faked my death. 216 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: The police they game I had no other two. I 217 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: was a child. I want to talk about not having 218 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: a choice. Huh left me to be dood by that monster. 219 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: Look at me? What would he turn me into? You 220 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: have any idea what he did to me would have 221 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: like inside my head after everything I lived through. There 222 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: is no stop otherwise he wins. Levinson wins, all right, 223 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: don't become the thing he tried to turn you into. 224 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: It's okay, Ali, it's over. We can still be together again. 225 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: There is no us, Sanna, the child you gave up 226 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: his day. This is all that's left. Oh yes, what 227 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: an incredible last line, Ali, But the wrong choice. What 228 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:51,880 Speaker 1: America really adores is a killer. And that was when 229 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Jane stopped her recording. After what she does next, you'll 230 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,479 Speaker 1: understand why she didn't want this next bit on tape. 231 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:08,680 Speaker 1: Too bad for her. Ah. Yes, what an incredible last line, Allie, 232 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: but the wrong choice. What America really adores is a 233 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 1: killer and turning that off. Don't really want a recording 234 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: of this next party, Denise, Let me help you off. 235 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: Are you okay? I think so? Oh? Those are some 236 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: nice marks around your neck there, those are gonna bruise perfectly. 237 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:47,359 Speaker 1: She bye, Denise, what so? No? Stop? Stop? Stop? H 238 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: What did you do? I wrote a better ending to 239 00:19:52,920 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: the story? How could you? When they find her buddie, 240 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: whose handprints will be on her neck? Those scratches on 241 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: your arms look pretty red. They're ali Whose skin do 242 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 1: you think they'll find under her fingernails? They'll never believe you. 243 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:15,439 Speaker 1: Both of us are witnesses. You think they're going to 244 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: believe him? They'll believe me, the teenage girl who's been 245 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: secretly chatting with her wanted boyfriend. I have the tapes, 246 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: Tig you can't do that, of course I can't. How 247 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: I have to admit it was a stroke of luck. 248 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: My ratings have been tanking ever since the death in 249 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 1: Taos podcast, and so I come here and find out 250 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: twenty other people are already chasing the same story. But 251 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: then I see Denise at the Monty and she's nervous 252 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: and sweating, and I decide to tail her and catch 253 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: her in the act of poisoning Brock. So I corner 254 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: her the next day at the store and she breaks down, 255 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: tells me everything of out Ali about only coming back 256 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: now because Levinson's locked up, gets literally paralyzed with fear 257 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: just talking about him. He planned all of this. She 258 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 1: was going to off Stephanie and Walter with her without me. 259 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: So I waited at the hospital for Stephanie to come in, 260 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: and when you showed up, I knew you were back 261 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: in it, and I knew I could use you to 262 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: draw all the out. No, the music boxes were just 263 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: a happy coincidence. The first one was actually just someone 264 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: leaving a nice gift for Brock. After that, I had 265 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: Harris Rush ordered me some replicas. Pat I'm a pretty 266 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: penny too. I wonder he thought he could make a 267 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: fortune off of them, but that's what it takes. Tig 268 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: without a catchy name, you got nothing. Instead, I'm going 269 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: to have the whole country on the edge of their 270 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: seat to find out who is the dreaded music box killer. 271 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: And with this ending, oh boy, I'm actually smelling TV 272 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: on this, but I know the truth. I'll go and 273 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: leave a lit all the real story. Oh please. That 274 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: would be the only thing that could make this an 275 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,880 Speaker 1: even bigger story for me. Then, instead of deranged teenage 276 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 1: fugitive murdering his own mother, I have the new Bonnie 277 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: and Clyde, famous teenage podcaster joins and murder packed with 278 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: her killer boyfriend. She's right, Take Ali, you have to 279 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: get out of here. You're what the world wants. Ali. 280 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: They want you to be the monster they're afraid of 281 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: and afraid to be. They want to listen on the 282 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: edge of their seats because they're afraid to become what 283 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: you and I are capable of being. They want you 284 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: to be that killer, Ali, and that's all you'll ever 285 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 1: be to them, whether you like it or not, and 286 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: whether you actually did it or not. You have to go, Ali, 287 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: Take what about I'll be fine, Ali, Go help Help. 288 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: Right after that, the police came storming down the path, 289 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 1: finding me, Jane and a knocked out Win, who was 290 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: just beginning to come to Denise or Anna, I should say, 291 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: wasn't found for six more days. When her body washed 292 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: up down river. The coroner was all too eager to 293 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 1: call it asphyxiation due to the bruises around her neck. 294 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 1: I told the police everything exactly as it happened. Jane 295 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: told them a different story. Guess who they believed. A 296 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: man hunt for Ali ensued, they found nothing. The burner 297 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: phone disconnected. Now you're probably wondering, if I stopped recording 298 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: and Jane stopped recording, how did you just hear everything 299 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: you heard? Well, after I out off my recorder, the 300 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: next tape you heard was Jane's. When we were working together. 301 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: Our audio files were all on a share drive that 302 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: I discreetly sent to auto back up to a computer 303 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: at the talent smart paranoid both. I know one thing, 304 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: She's going to be so pissed when she hears this 305 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: h and the rest. Well, a couple of weeks after 306 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: the night in question, I found a box on my doorstep, 307 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: no return address, simply marked four TIG and containing a 308 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: tape with this message, Hey, it's me. I thought I 309 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: had control, but after that night, after what I almost did, 310 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: I realized I haven't even begun to get a grip 311 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: on whatever's inside me, so you won't be hearing from 312 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: me for a while. I cared too much about you 313 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: to let you near that. I guess I just remembered 314 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 1: how I felt during those moments we had together. The 315 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: God went and I don't know, I just wanted to 316 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 1: run towards that feeling because it was so much better 317 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: than anything I've ever had. And then I felt nothing. 318 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: When Jane did what she did, I felt relieved. Really, 319 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: the name Anna has no power over me anymore, another 320 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,640 Speaker 1: piece of my past that can no longer hurt me anyway. 321 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:02,679 Speaker 1: Keep listening to this tape. I think there's something that 322 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: you and yes, your listeners are gonna want to hear. 323 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: None of this makes me hate him any less, I 324 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: mean a little right. The rest of the recording after 325 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: that is Jane throwing Denise over the falls. When Jane 326 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: stopped recording, Ali turned my recorder back on and caught 327 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: everything and then left it on your doorstep in the 328 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,920 Speaker 1: middle of the night, like a mega creepo stalker who 329 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: maybe hasn't really gotten over his murder. Urges geez uh, 330 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: don't hold back or anything. I guess Ali brings out 331 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: Spicy Ella. Regardless, this does clear his name, so we 332 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: have to take it to the police, right dig Yeah, 333 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: of course, but podcast first, he deserves his name cleared 334 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: in public. I have the power to make sure the 335 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: people know the truth. The absolute most satisfying part of 336 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: this whole ordeal. Jane's been so busy shopping her story 337 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: around she hasn't published yet. She's got half a dozen 338 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: networks caught in a bidding war, and they'll all be 339 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 1: racing to get out once the real story, this story 340 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: hits the air. Oh and don't forget the whole go 341 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: into prison for murder thing. Jane, if you're listening, and 342 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: I say this with all due respect, you deserve everything 343 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: you get. And Ali, if you're listening, I have a 344 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a different message for you than I 345 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,719 Speaker 1: had at the end of last season, and it's this, 346 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: you may not control all the events that happened to you, 347 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: but you can decide not to be reduced by them. 348 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: That's from Maya Angelou. I know you're stronger than you 349 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 1: give yourself credit for. And what about the person you 350 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: really ought to be talking to. I screwed everything up 351 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,959 Speaker 1: so bad. She still has me blocked everywhere. Oh, we know, 352 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: we're still in the old group chat, you know, the 353 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: one without you on it. I swear I wasn't trying 354 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: to rekindle anything with Ali. I was just trying to 355 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: help him. We just start the tape. Clearly he had 356 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: a different impression. I don't know what to do. The 357 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: strange case of Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde is on 358 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: the surface about the good in us, all represented by Jekyl, 359 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: and the evil we repress or let free, represented by Hide. 360 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: Even after I was horrible to her when still ran 361 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: full speed toward danger to try to stop a killer 362 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: and got bashed over the head for it, she was 363 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: willing to do that for me, and what did I 364 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: do for her? I'm Jekyl and I'm Hide, and guess 365 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: what they both suck because your good side isn't supposed 366 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: to let you be that bad to the people who 367 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: matter the most when I'm sorry. Right before I moved 368 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: back to Hollow Falls, I decided that the only important 369 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: thing in my life was solving the lit killer case. 370 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: But through all of it, looking back, I found something 371 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: more important, someone more important, who made me want to 372 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: live my life in the present instead of being consumed 373 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: by my past. I realized now that this podcast has 374 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: become an excuse for me to be all about me, 375 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: so I'm giving it up. I'm letting the past stay 376 00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: in the past, and when I hope you can too. 377 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: This will be my last broadcast for now, maybe forever, 378 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, in the hopes that whatever comes next 379 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: can be about us instead. I'm tig Torus and this 380 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: is Lethal litt. Ironhorn's Epic Productions and I Heart Radio 381 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: present Lethal Lit, a tig Torres Mystery Season two, created 382 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: and executive produced by Heather Einhorn and Adam STAFFARONI created 383 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: by Alex Agora and Monica Gallagher. Executive produced by I 384 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: Heart Radio head writer Melanie Hoops, writer's Louis Cornfeld, Jasmine 385 00:30:55,560 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: Alshammy and Adam Stafferoni. Directed by Critzia Bajos, with performances 386 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: by Rebecca Solair as tick Torus, Shelley Schnoy as Win, 387 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: Matt Gumley as Max, Luke Slattery as Ali, Rachel orem 388 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Land as Ella, with Critzia Bajos and J. B. Blanc. 389 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: Special guest Chuck Bryant as Brock Montague. 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