Speaker 1: Welcome to Behind the Influence, a production of I Heart
Speaker 1: Radio and TDC Media. The greatest thing I had heard
Speaker 1: recently was like things you're curious about? Instead of like
Speaker 1: what are you passionate about? It's passionate sort of fleeting.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm passionate about this, and then tomorrow like, man,
Speaker 1: I was not passionate about it, but like, what are
Speaker 1: you curious about? Like you know what I'd like to see?
Speaker 1: Like maybe be kind of cool if wouldn't it be neat?
Speaker 1: I wonder if like all those thoughts will lead you
Speaker 1: to your destiny. I came in to meet him and
Speaker 1: he was like, oh my gosh, Michael Carbinar, Oh, I
Speaker 1: love your show. And I was like, whoa I have
Speaker 1: like a name and how like he knows me. I
Speaker 1: find that the best, most genuine stuff really is the
Speaker 1: stuff that just kind of rings in your heart that
Speaker 1: you're like, I'd like to do this, or maybe I
Speaker 1: would like to do this. I think this might be neat.
Speaker 1: You've got to follow that. He's a magician, he's a comedian,
Speaker 1: he's an all around entertainer of people. Michael Carbonaro is
Speaker 1: in the house. Welcome, well, no, you welcome So what
Speaker 1: came first for you? Magic or comedy? Magic? But first
Speaker 1: first with special effects. Know, like I was really into
Speaker 1: special effects and makeup as a kid, like maybe thirteen
Speaker 1: years old. I mean I was doing I did magic
Speaker 1: earlier than that, Like when I was like eight, I
Speaker 1: played with tricks and stuff. But when I was like,
Speaker 1: I want to when I grow up, I want to
Speaker 1: be a special effects makeup artist for the movies. I
Speaker 1: was sure of it. And I just loved horror. I
Speaker 1: loved makeup and Halloween and special effects, and that was it.
Speaker 1: Tom Savini, who was a makeup artist who did like
Speaker 1: Friday the Thirteenth and Creep Show, he had a book
Speaker 1: on on special effects makeup that was that was literally
Speaker 1: like my very first I call it my first magic
Speaker 1: book because it's the same. There's like so many special
Speaker 1: effects tricks that are tricks, you know, movie tricks and
Speaker 1: especially older movies where was all practical effects, where it
Speaker 1: wasn't computer generated, so you had to like pull off
Speaker 1: these tricks and gags and he would he would speak
Speaker 1: like a magician and the effect, and I learned magic
Speaker 1: and special effects were sort of like the same thing.
Speaker 1: So I was sure I was going to do. It
Speaker 1: was buying special effects supplies that a local magic shop.
Speaker 1: I also was watching Copper Fields. It was kind of
Speaker 1: layering and I started like buying some tricks and watching
Speaker 1: the magicians there, and I found my love performing through magic.
Speaker 1: So special effets is sort of even though magic is
Speaker 1: sort of dorky. You're alone, learning things yourself a lot,
Speaker 1: practicing in front of the mirror and and stuff. But
Speaker 1: special effects is very you know, isolated. It's a solid
Speaker 1: you know, you're in the basement planning with clay and
Speaker 1: it's just meditative. But with magic, you're out there performing
Speaker 1: for somebody to get a reaction, and it starts to
Speaker 1: turn into a relationship and it's like, oh, that's where
Speaker 1: I discovered why I really like entertaining. So it really
Speaker 1: went from like like the Grand Scheme and went from
Speaker 1: like special effects to magic, which brought me to performing.
Speaker 1: Went to n Yu thinking I was going to be
Speaker 1: the next David Copy. The way you and Hyu is incredible, Tish,
Speaker 1: I mean like, no, bless you, bless you, bless you,
Speaker 1: bless you? Okay, so I rudely interrupted you, So then
Speaker 1: y you and why you? I went to n Yu
Speaker 1: just with the thoughts of becoming the next David Copperfield,
Speaker 1: and I found my love of acting and even serious acting.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, I want to be like Johnny Depp,
Speaker 1: like those really by the way, excellent, thank you. And
Speaker 1: so then I was like, okay, no special effects, no magic,
Speaker 1: I want to be an actor. And then I was like,
Speaker 1: and I started doing stand up too, so we want
Speaker 1: to be comedy like doing comedy acting but also serious acting.
Speaker 1: I want to do both, like a Johnny Tap kind
Speaker 1: of guy. Like I was like, this is Tom Hanks
Speaker 1: just like you know, yeah Tom Hanks because he's like
Speaker 1: his early stuff super funny and goofy and nonety, but
Speaker 1: then he gets into the serious stuff later. I'm like
Speaker 1: and Robin Williams, a lot of the comedians are like
Speaker 1: you know. So that was the plan. And then I
Speaker 1: started to come I've always had like a love hate
Speaker 1: relationship with magic where why because of the stigma? Yeah
Speaker 1: it yeah, there was sort of like you know, you
Speaker 1: can't go you go to like a I don't think
Speaker 1: people really understood like he's a magician but he's also
Speaker 1: an actor, or he's an actor and a magician. That
Speaker 1: just seems like oh, because when you think a magician,
Speaker 1: You think like a nerd and the you know uncle goofball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was a clown once, So I was performing
Speaker 1: for like birthday parties at what age? That is so funny.
Speaker 1: When I was eight, I made my parents pay me
Speaker 1: to perform at my sister's fifth birthday party. What did
Speaker 1: you do? I yelled at everyone the whole time, was
Speaker 1: so mean. I dressed I dressed up like a clown,
Speaker 1: and I like did this lollipop trick where they had
Speaker 1: to guess which one had red marker on the bottom
Speaker 1: and when the kid gets the wrong one, which I
Speaker 1: don't know how that's magic, by the way, I yelled
Speaker 1: at the kid and made them cry good. I was
Speaker 1: st a kid's fingers on purpose. They were so mean.
Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait you will hold on it look like
Speaker 1: an accident. They were brutal. You just reminded me of
Speaker 1: Ryan Reynolds for like two seconds and said I saw Deadpool.
Speaker 1: But when you did it again, now you're doing but
Speaker 1: it was like a Deadpool moment. You kind of resemble
Speaker 1: him a little bit. So let me get this straight.
Speaker 1: Brian Reynolds looks down to stop. You just made another
Speaker 1: face like him. I'm leaving. Are you doing it on purpose?
Speaker 1: You're a good actor. That's the bottom line. Hashtag hashtag.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use that in the show, Like if I
Speaker 1: have a moment where I like and I'm getting an
Speaker 1: executive producer credit, would you do that just for the hashtag?
Speaker 1: Though the rest of the show you can have cool?
Speaker 1: Who else do you get? Dave Chappelle? Speaking of Dave
Speaker 1: of Chappelle, someone on the TV show one time, I
Speaker 1: was sure they knew who I was because I'm doing
Speaker 1: a hidden camera show and she was like talking to
Speaker 1: me and she's like, I know you, I know you.
Speaker 1: You have a show, You're Ler, You're Dave. And I'm
Speaker 1: like no, She's like I know this show. I'm like Dave.
Speaker 1: She's like Chappelle, No way. She didn't think I was
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle. She just confused the name. Somebody was that
Speaker 1: his name is Dave. Say hi Dave. No, my name
Speaker 1: is Stewart. Oh my god, nice to meet you. Who
Speaker 1: am I? Who is Dave? I can't believe this. I
Speaker 1: can't believe what can't you believe? Am I? Somebody who
Speaker 1: knows you? Do? My name is not Dave, It's David something.
Speaker 1: I'm going to show you something that and you'll know
Speaker 1: what show it is. I don't show it is. It's
Speaker 1: the Magic Show. What's it called. It's Dave the Dave
Speaker 1: Chappelle's Chappelle Show, Magic, the Dave Chappelle Magic Show. That's me.
Speaker 1: That is me in my hometown right here, in your hometown.
Speaker 1: Right How many people can say I have had the
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle Magic Show in my local library. I'm having
Speaker 1: a hot flash speaking of David, Sir, Dave of Chappelle,
Speaker 1: how's he doing? Your buddy? Here's my buddy. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't even know. I've heard from an years I was
Speaker 1: on Hello, That's a big deal. Was that? Would you
Speaker 1: call that one of your big brains? Uh? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think. Do you, like, look back on your career,
Speaker 1: what was the moment you were like I can actually
Speaker 1: do this and make a lot of money and be
Speaker 1: really successful. You had to have it like a moment.
Speaker 1: The moment where I felt like I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I think I made it was when Peter Weller,
Speaker 1: who was directing an episode of Rush Hour, which is
Speaker 1: this TV show, and I'm like, oh my god, RoboCop
Speaker 1: is directing this episode and I'm going to be I
Speaker 1: had a part on the show. I got cast and
Speaker 1: I came in to meet him and he was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Michael Carbono, I love your show. And
Speaker 1: I was like, my show, that's really cool. I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: I have like a name in Hollywood, like he knows me.
Speaker 1: That was it And I had already had the show
Speaker 1: for years, but it was but it was just that
Speaker 1: because it was the two worlds kind of coming together.
Speaker 1: I was like kind of in this little, you know,
Speaker 1: bucket of doing the TV show, and then there was
Speaker 1: also my like Hollywood, you know, acting roles that were
Speaker 1: like on hold in a different bucket. So when I
Speaker 1: came back to that and he knew that and I
Speaker 1: kind of realized that crossover, it was really essently he
Speaker 1: said my last name came out of his mouth. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like, oh, oh yes, right, I've heard of you.
Speaker 1: It was like, Michael Carbonaro, I love your show. I
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, that's a moment that was there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a moment for sure. So piggybacking off of what
Speaker 1: you just said, like you have different worlds, right, like
Speaker 1: you know, I'm okay, Well, I can't do it. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna stop trying. Let's keep going down your journey. Right,
Speaker 1: So you had that big moment you finally realize this
Speaker 1: is really real? Right then? Why? Yeah? And I still
Speaker 1: I still don't know if I quite really, but people
Speaker 1: recognize you everywhere, I'm sure. So you go from one
Speaker 1: day having this great show, because I mean, at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, there's a lot of people with
Speaker 1: great shows, but unfortunately it's really hard to make it
Speaker 1: on television. But you have, right, So do you know,
Speaker 1: like when you're saying that, I'm even like, really, I swear,
Speaker 1: I'm just but going out on tour and seeing them
Speaker 1: people at the meet and Green when they out and
Speaker 1: they're talking about how much they love the show and
Speaker 1: they watch it with their families and they've been watching
Speaker 1: it for so long, and they're like naming things that
Speaker 1: I've said, and I'm like, WHOA. I like starting to
Speaker 1: really feel that what is sort of like a kind
Speaker 1: of a cultural impact. And I'm like, you know, when
Speaker 1: when I see the little kids who send me stuff
Speaker 1: like my kid got into magic as you, I'm like,
Speaker 1: what that was me with Copperfield. So it really but
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I really love about you too,
Speaker 1: is that you've kind of made I was contemplating not
Speaker 1: even saying this because I didn't want you to think that.
Speaker 1: I think magic is not cool, but you've kind of
Speaker 1: made it cool again, do you take offense to that, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's great, Yeah I think that. Yeah, and it needs it.
Speaker 1: You've made it fun and cool and edgy. Magic has
Speaker 1: a stigma for sure. And the thing about magic is
Speaker 1: it is a little it is dorky, you know. And
Speaker 1: there are a lot of bad magicians, much the same
Speaker 1: as there are you know, bad everything, bad singers, bad
Speaker 1: you know, artists, bad actors. But with magicians, a lot
Speaker 1: of people kind of get their first their first impression.
Speaker 1: Like you don't see a magician all the time, so
Speaker 1: like maybe someday you saw a magician performing, they were terrible,
Speaker 1: and then that's your view of magicians forever, because it's
Speaker 1: just like how the terrible prejudice human brain works. But
Speaker 1: like you know, there have been some magicians along the
Speaker 1: way they really have brought, you know, a level of artistry.
Speaker 1: And but there's so many, so few there are so
Speaker 1: can you name? I mean you can name, but I
Speaker 1: can name maybe two who can you name? Is Chris Angel?
Speaker 1: And what's the other guy? That? Just um, David Copperfield.
Speaker 1: That's it, right? And what do you when you think
Speaker 1: of them, you think of them as what as Vegas performers,
Speaker 1: Vegas performers, like literally, that's why I think unfiltered, like
Speaker 1: like magical commercial faces, like when you think of like
Speaker 1: famous famous modern musicians Michael Carboner, Right, thank you, that's
Speaker 1: the only one. No, But seriously, like I think you're
Speaker 1: really doing something very different and you've created your own
Speaker 1: lane for yourself, Like I don't I can't compare you
Speaker 1: to any other comedian or any other magician. Was there
Speaker 1: a moment in your career because obviously right now you're
Speaker 1: really really successful, but there had to be a day
Speaker 1: that you were like, I don't think this is for me.
Speaker 1: I want to quit because it's a brutal industry. Like
Speaker 1: it's not easy, especially when you're creating your own brand
Speaker 1: or lane. Nobody knows what to think of you or
Speaker 1: what bucket to put you in every other day. Really,
Speaker 1: that's an honest answer. Yeah, I could never get away
Speaker 1: from it because I love performing and when I'm on
Speaker 1: stage and I'm like having that vibe with the crowd
Speaker 1: and shooting energy out and it's shooting back and it
Speaker 1: turns into that perfect kind of show where we're on
Speaker 1: a ride together. I go like complete zen, and I'm
Speaker 1: like this, I never want to do anything else in
Speaker 1: my entire life. So you know, I fantasize about like
Speaker 1: hiding on Vermont and like painting contact lenses because you know,
Speaker 1: they still paint contact lenses for the movies, Like those
Speaker 1: horror contact lens are still hand painted, and I'm like
Speaker 1: obsessed with contact lenses and like how they paint them
Speaker 1: for the movies. Um, And I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: hide in Vermont and lead the business and just paint
Speaker 1: contact lenses. Why do you want that? Because it's too
Speaker 1: chaotic or because it's overwhelming or there's a shitty day. Well,
Speaker 1: what's the reason behind wanting to hide away? Yeah, all
Speaker 1: of those things have come into play with wanting to
Speaker 1: hide away, and and maybe even the momentum has gotten No.
Speaker 1: I came into doing the show and having this fame
Speaker 1: way after I had already accepted that it wasn't going
Speaker 1: to happen. Really, like I really finally was like I
Speaker 1: moved out to l a wanted to be an actor.
Speaker 1: Came out to l A from New York to just
Speaker 1: kind of drop magic and really focus on acting. But
Speaker 1: then I got into the Castle, and you know, then
Speaker 1: I was on the Tonight Show and that Magic became big,
Speaker 1: and then I was on the Tonight Show, he says,
Speaker 1: So casually Magic was being on the Tonight Show, and
Speaker 1: Magic sort of just started working in a way that
Speaker 1: was great. And but before that I had come out
Speaker 1: to l I was getting guest stars on different TV shows,
Speaker 1: and I was married. I wasn't married yet, but I
Speaker 1: was with my husband, my now husband, but we had
Speaker 1: been together for almost seven years. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I kind of had that mental moment where I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just living in an apartment. He's an actor,
Speaker 1: I'm an actor. I'm like, I like this life. Like
Speaker 1: if I don't ever get anywhere else other than this,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. So you're willing to be like, I
Speaker 1: don't care if it doesn't work out a lot of
Speaker 1: my life. That's a good place to they say, that's
Speaker 1: when when you kind of surrender, that's when it all happens. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think I was able to make a lot
Speaker 1: of decisions because there was like, you know, the popularity
Speaker 1: me being on the Tonight Show and what I was
Speaker 1: doing was like I got a lot of offers in
Speaker 1: a lot of different directions of like to have my
Speaker 1: own show. It's a big deal. Yeah, it was huge.
Speaker 1: But I was able to say no just to a
Speaker 1: lot of things that I definitely had to say no
Speaker 1: to that Like five years earlier, I would have been like, sure, great,
Speaker 1: let's do it right now, Let's do it no matter what.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, I don't think I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: control enough on that, or I don't think that's going
Speaker 1: to happen right. Let me just and nothing else on
Speaker 1: the table. I'd be like, no, but that's not it.
Speaker 1: That's such a good place to be because I feel
Speaker 1: like they know when you're desperate, you know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can feel it and smell it and taste it
Speaker 1: and feel it so refreshing. Again, where do we go
Speaker 1: from here? Okay, so I want to know how you
Speaker 1: got your show. Tell me about the moment you got
Speaker 1: that phone call, because I had to be surreal. I know,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm it's like there, I think you're assuming that.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh my god, I got a show
Speaker 1: kind of a moment. It was a lot different than that.
Speaker 1: It was very like I had already all right, So
Speaker 1: when I'm when I was on the Tonight Show, I
Speaker 1: was doing these segments of hidden camera magic, and each
Speaker 1: one of them was about, you know, four minutes long,
Speaker 1: and putting them together was brutal. It was really hard
Speaker 1: to come up with that kind of material that was
Speaker 1: gonna work and fly and be able to tape and
Speaker 1: put it on the show. And every time I had
Speaker 1: to do a new segment, it was like Fregey to doodle,
Speaker 1: Holy Di Coke, How am I gonna stop it? Really? Again?
Speaker 1: It was really hard to make those segments. So when
Speaker 1: it came to be that it was going to be
Speaker 1: a TV show of this ILK, I was immediately like,
Speaker 1: how am I possibly gonna make like a number of
Speaker 1: episodes of this kind of material? This is going to
Speaker 1: be really hard. And so when we were going to
Speaker 1: do the pilot of the show, it was called like,
Speaker 1: you know, the pilot was happening, and I was excited,
Speaker 1: but I was also like, how am I gonna pull out?
Speaker 1: How am I going to get and and shooting the pilot?
Speaker 1: How am I going to make enough materials to do
Speaker 1: this pilot. Is it gonna work? Is it gonna work
Speaker 1: as a TV show? And shooting the pilot pilot full episode, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it all, it all kind of like it all overlapped,
Speaker 1: like it was like, you know, True TV was like,
Speaker 1: let's have you do a pilot and see what happens.
Speaker 1: But before we even aired the pilot, they triggered thirteen
Speaker 1: more episodes. Yeah, well yeah, but like a hundred meetings
Speaker 1: later probably right, no, no, no, So you've got it kid,
Speaker 1: Thanks ma'am, Thanks miss I. The shooting the pilot was
Speaker 1: a brutal, awful, horrible, probably the worst week of my life.
Speaker 1: I had a horrible time in Georgia shooting. It was
Speaker 1: just tumultuous, so much pressure, just everyone's wondering if it's
Speaker 1: gonna work, including me probably more than anyone else. And
Speaker 1: I hated it. And I was like calling Peter, my husband,
Speaker 1: like every day and I'm like, this is terrible. I
Speaker 1: don't ever want to do this. This is just not
Speaker 1: so was it just the pressure? Did you not like
Speaker 1: were you did you have creative control in anyway? Oh? Tons, Yeah.
Speaker 1: They were really great with that. I mean it was
Speaker 1: they really saw what I was doing, and we're like,
Speaker 1: do you keep doing that? You know, like so, but
Speaker 1: but but and it looked it's like a long road
Speaker 1: too simple with anything, right, Like with anything, it's a
Speaker 1: really long hard road to make a very simple thing.
Speaker 1: And when it's done, it just looks clean and easy
Speaker 1: and simple. And especially because I'm doing tricks that look
Speaker 1: really simple, someone comes in with their cell phone and
Speaker 1: I shake it and like you know, a bug flies
Speaker 1: out of their cell phone and they're like, oh bug, cellphone. Easy.
Speaker 1: He could do it. He's a magician. And you're like
Speaker 1: that took forever to figure that out and come up
Speaker 1: with it and then figure out how to you know,
Speaker 1: like it's tricks I've never done before. So each moment
Speaker 1: was it was tough. It wasn't like just writing lines
Speaker 1: memorizing them in comedy, like the manipulation that went along
Speaker 1: with it, the concept. So now it's you're in a way,
Speaker 1: you're acting like you're totally acting, not even in a way.
Speaker 1: But then there's comedic timing too. It's not just like
Speaker 1: you were doing everything, every everything, everything has to come
Speaker 1: in with like the complete reality for that person that
Speaker 1: this is actually happening. By the way encounter. How do
Speaker 1: some of these people believe this stuff? Like there was
Speaker 1: a one that a fish came out of a fish
Speaker 1: stick or something, and I was like, how does she
Speaker 1: actually believe that? She was like inspecting is any of this?
Speaker 1: We I won't tell anyone. It's never been faked ever,
Speaker 1: Always a real unsuspecting person being fooled by And all
Speaker 1: bets are off with how I fool them, But they're
Speaker 1: being fooled like I will fool them however I need to.
Speaker 1: But that is a real unsuspecting person. And you can
Speaker 1: tell alive. No, I think it's moving around. We don't
Speaker 1: want to be serving. I'm okay, I understood, understood, all right.
Speaker 1: So they said it's a real fresh Yeah, shut the up, man,
Speaker 1: come on, are you kidding me? Come on? The thing
Speaker 1: is freaking alive. I think that's a catfish. It's it's
Speaker 1: like weaving them into it. It's like you can't and
Speaker 1: we That's sort of the trick is how do you
Speaker 1: do the tiny little thing you know that gets them like,
Speaker 1: oh that's weird. And if that can happen, then the
Speaker 1: bigger thing happens. Oh my god, now that happened, like
Speaker 1: the fishick wiggles a little on the plate. You're like,
Speaker 1: what did you see that move like that? That is
Speaker 1: so weird? Why that move? And then you break it
Speaker 1: and the fish comes out and I'm shocked right there
Speaker 1: in front of you. You know it. Why wouldn't that
Speaker 1: Initially you'd be like, what the hell? Has there ever
Speaker 1: been a situation where it's backfired where somebody got pissed?
Speaker 1: Or like, we've some of the pranks up and I
Speaker 1: hate the word prank. Prank sounds mean you know, like
Speaker 1: someb some of the yeah, the artistic illusion set ups,
Speaker 1: some of the tricks. Some of them will like if
Speaker 1: we bring someone in who's like some of them, I like,
Speaker 1: will hire people out from like a temp agency. We'll
Speaker 1: call it be like, oh, can you have someone commit
Speaker 1: and be a receptionist for me? And they'll committed a receptionist,
Speaker 1: and then this thing just has to have, you know,
Speaker 1: starts to happen and then I reveal like, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: this was a show. And usually it's great, but sometimes
Speaker 1: if you get that like like somewhere over forty year
Speaker 1: old person who was like working at a temp agency
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to be working at a temp agency
Speaker 1: and now they're like putting in a situation where on
Speaker 1: a TV show they're like I didn't want to be
Speaker 1: on a TV show and you're like, got it, no problem.
Speaker 1: So then they don't sign and we don't know. So
Speaker 1: it's just been talent basically, not nobody who you've I
Speaker 1: don't want to say tricked. Well, there was a scam
Speaker 1: when um it was too scary, Like a lot of
Speaker 1: them get really scary, and I what was the scary one?
Speaker 1: It was called raven Man. What did you do? Who
Speaker 1: was that? An airport baggage claim late night? Okay, right right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and the guy was coming in and that the premise
Speaker 1: was that, like, you know, these bags haven't been claimed
Speaker 1: in over three months, and if they don't get claimed
Speaker 1: in over three months, we have to put them into
Speaker 1: a warehouse and tag them and then if they come
Speaker 1: in after a year, you know, they can still claim it.
Speaker 1: So we're just going through and we opened up this
Speaker 1: weird box that looks like it really kind of didn't
Speaker 1: blow kind of it was sort of like that Transylvanian
Speaker 1: like Dracula's coffin moment. It was like a wooden crate
Speaker 1: and we heard like from inside and I opened it
Speaker 1: up and there was a raven in there, like in
Speaker 1: a cage. Were like, what the heck? No one picked
Speaker 1: this up? What's I don't know about the animal? Like,
Speaker 1: I gotta call the boss. This is crazy there, you
Speaker 1: must be You're not even supposed to ship animals or
Speaker 1: transport them this way. So then I left the room. Well,
Speaker 1: the first step happened where we think like that it's
Speaker 1: a do not feed on the raven's cage. And while
Speaker 1: we were like filling out paperwork, and then we turned
Speaker 1: back after hearing some scratching it like scratched out the
Speaker 1: word not, so it was like do feed? Like did
Speaker 1: he scratch that out? Is he trying to tell us
Speaker 1: to feed him? Like? What's going on? Is he a
Speaker 1: smart raven? I know they're smart, but did he did
Speaker 1: he got ivy League school? Yes? So, um, he's fiic
Speaker 1: tissue us. So then I leave, as I do, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's I leave, and the box starts to shake and
Speaker 1: the front door flings open and the raven is vanished,
Speaker 1: and in its place is a naked man right with
Speaker 1: like big black weird eyes. Was he actually naked? Yes?
Speaker 1: Along his body kind of like featherist junk, you know,
Speaker 1: and he but and kind of like he looked scared
Speaker 1: to be there and like came out of it. And
Speaker 1: we've cast this amazing little dude and he was just
Speaker 1: like perfect and he came out of the thing and
Speaker 1: and ran off and people were freaked out. It just
Speaker 1: looked like it it's like a shape shifting that clearly
Speaker 1: this raven had turned into this man. It was a
Speaker 1: raven man, clearly. Clearly, what else would you believe? Hey,
Speaker 1: what the dude working out there as that thing didn't
Speaker 1: Some dude just ran out of here. But oh, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you a guy just ran out of there,
Speaker 1: freaked out, half naked, wearing a like loin cloth and
Speaker 1: ran this way. Dude, I'm telling you, dude, sitting in
Speaker 1: the kennel like this, a person looking very scared, naked
Speaker 1: with like what looks like bird feathers on his junk
Speaker 1: and just runs away. But one dude like picked up
Speaker 1: and the dude we showed on TV like picked up
Speaker 1: one of the stanchions and was going to like hit
Speaker 1: the guy, get the back. I swear to god, Hey,
Speaker 1: he broke out. It's a person. There's a naked man
Speaker 1: out there. It was violent. He was scared. You do wait,
Speaker 1: because there's got to be moments like that. What do
Speaker 1: you do to security pop in? Well, we're like, don't
Speaker 1: run towards the guy. Like when you pop out of
Speaker 1: the box, run the other way. Don't run toward him.
Speaker 1: If you run toward him, he's you know, you're he's
Speaker 1: about to be killed by the raven man. What do
Speaker 1: you do? You pick up a stanton the raven man.
Speaker 1: That's what I always learned, Hit him in the nose,
Speaker 1: and the raven man will run away. Been through that course,
Speaker 1: um tickled raven man. All right, right, that sounds like
Speaker 1: a novel to uh, let's write it. So the other
Speaker 1: guy who had come to work that night with like
Speaker 1: dress shoes was working with me, and when the raven
Speaker 1: Man popped out, he shrieked like in a big dude.
Speaker 1: It was funny as hell shrieked. But Rant just bolted
Speaker 1: out into the first in the morning. Yeah, running in
Speaker 1: the parking lot, across the pavement in the in the
Speaker 1: darkness at two in the morning, and like, I'm like,
Speaker 1: he's gonna slip with his shoes, you know, and fall
Speaker 1: and hurt himself. Like this is dangerous and I pulled
Speaker 1: the plug. Like we did it three times and I'm like,
Speaker 1: it's getting progressively closer to We're very lucky something didn't happen,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, let we have to stop. And then
Speaker 1: you know, the producers were like come on, you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just yeah, other ones, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't mind freaking someone out, but that one was
Speaker 1: just getting too physically violent, and yeah, so I pulled
Speaker 1: the Okay. So what's your favorite your favorite episode or
Speaker 1: not an episode, favorite segment within an episode. I think
Speaker 1: my favorite one one of well, when the dude turned
Speaker 1: to stone at a church. It was amazing. And we
Speaker 1: found relic in a church and the guy like everything
Speaker 1: I was touching with the relic turned to stone, like
Speaker 1: the rag I was cleaning with it turned to stone.
Speaker 1: And then this guy was holding it and he was
Speaker 1: literally standing right next to this girl. And there's no way,
Speaker 1: I mean, it could have happened. She just turned her
Speaker 1: head for a second. When she turned back, he was
Speaker 1: just right there, just stone. She's screwed. That was a
Speaker 1: scary one too. That was just amazing. I love the
Speaker 1: feeling of the story, like and someone you know you're
Speaker 1: you're in a church and it's freaky and you find
Speaker 1: a chalice and then it turned to and you just
Speaker 1: find a challenge. Believe it, you know how it happens.
Speaker 1: Another one was we uh, I grew a human head plant.
Speaker 1: It was like a plant. It was like a pod
Speaker 1: that like grew and it was a human head that
Speaker 1: bloomed in this plem are saying I have not seen
Speaker 1: and I'm really upset about it. We'll send them to you.
Speaker 1: Oh great, I'm your best friend. Now. Yeah. There's another
Speaker 1: one with a time capsule that we dug up a
Speaker 1: time capsule and inside of it was like all of
Speaker 1: this information that the person who dug it up with
Speaker 1: me ended up believing that they wrote as a child.
Speaker 1: Yes it was. They believe that it was from their classroom.
Speaker 1: Like I was digging up the time capsule and exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: We started digging it up, and I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, I remember doing one of these time capsules
Speaker 1: in school back when I was you know, back when
Speaker 1: I was in elementary school. I'm like, did you ever
Speaker 1: do one of those? Like no, I don't think I
Speaker 1: don't remember. And I'm like, what school did you go to?
Speaker 1: And it's like North Northfield Elementary. I'm like, okay, and
Speaker 1: you know, we were there digging and we're like the
Speaker 1: whole you know, and I just like casually started asking
Speaker 1: him questions, like what you know they're getting there, They're
Speaker 1: they're actually taking surveys. This is hard to explain it,
Speaker 1: but like there, I was like, well, no, he's got
Speaker 1: the pod in his hand already, the glass time capsule.
Speaker 1: He was just dug up and I'm asking him questions.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, the reason why we're here
Speaker 1: in the park today and we're clear excavating excavating it's
Speaker 1: a yeah, we had to know. Um. I was because
Speaker 1: they're gonna put a new monument here in the park
Speaker 1: in Chicago. And I was like, and they're actually taking like,
Speaker 1: you know, requests about who what figures would be kind
Speaker 1: of cool in the park, you know, like what would
Speaker 1: be cool. And this guy was like, you know, they
Speaker 1: should put like a jet or something like an airplane
Speaker 1: because they always have the air show in Chicago. Would
Speaker 1: be really called have a big jet. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's cool. So he's in the middle of like opening
Speaker 1: up this sealed pod while we're having this conversation, and loe, behold,
Speaker 1: he pulls out these papers like that look like they're
Speaker 1: from an elementary school class, and there it is Northfield
Speaker 1: Elementary that was his school, with his name on this part.
Speaker 1: And then and then it shows and it's like the
Speaker 1: next picture is a crayon drawing of the two of
Speaker 1: us digging up this time capsule. And then the next
Speaker 1: page is the two of us in front of a
Speaker 1: big jet monument in that park. And it was like,
Speaker 1: that's what you just said should be in this park
Speaker 1: was a jet? Like did you predict this as a kid,
Speaker 1: And he's like, oh my god. Any well, human psychology
Speaker 1: is crazy, Like you can't believe anything that people will
Speaker 1: tell you. I know, it's terrifying. That's crazy. So when
Speaker 1: you told him at the end, what did he say?
Speaker 1: You know that one was the one, you know. And
Speaker 1: there's always a little deflation when I tell them because
Speaker 1: a lot of the times I'm orchestrating an amazing moment
Speaker 1: of like magical coincidence or literally yeah. So there was
Speaker 1: a real drop down when I he didn't want to believe.
Speaker 1: Almost I wish I couldn't, you know, I could have
Speaker 1: just not told him ever and be like, I have
Speaker 1: a good day. You gotta get them to sign the paper. Okay,
Speaker 1: So your show is doing really really well. For people
Speaker 1: who have not checked it out, where can they find
Speaker 1: the show? And then we're going to talk about your
Speaker 1: tour just for a little bit. Um. It's on True TV.
Speaker 1: It is called the Carbonaro Effect, and it's on True
Speaker 1: TV a lot, by the way, So yes, so it is.
Speaker 1: I hope you're making that coin oh man, Nope, but
Speaker 1: I really just do it for the love of you know,
Speaker 1: of course. But you can get it on iTunes. Amazon
Speaker 1: has it right where can make the most money. Let's
Speaker 1: tell them to go yeah, oh I sell it on
Speaker 1: the corner of fountains and love it. Okay. So next year,
Speaker 1: I'm all about putting things out into the universe. I
Speaker 1: think it's already and you're already on tour and you
Speaker 1: have a hundred shows, so I don't want to overwork you.
Speaker 1: I think next year I'm putting it out there. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have a Diet Coke tour that's going to pay
Speaker 1: you one billion dollars. Thank you for putting it out
Speaker 1: too big? Is that what they say? Whatever? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Okay, where because oh nope, yep, Victoria
Speaker 1: keeps trying. So let's just laugh at one of her things.
Speaker 1: So I want to say, on track, we promise you'd
Speaker 1: be out of here by three. Give a piece of
Speaker 1: advice to litterally you are somebody who is trying to
Speaker 1: follow in your footsteps. It's a hard industry. You have
Speaker 1: broken so many barriers, you have created your own lane.
Speaker 1: There's hard days, there's days people want to quit. What
Speaker 1: do you say to that person today to have them
Speaker 1: keep going and be in your position one day? Yeah,
Speaker 1: stick to what you love and your gut on what
Speaker 1: it is that moves you and that you're curious about,
Speaker 1: because it starts to get like a lot of people
Speaker 1: telling you what's working and a lot of opinions coming
Speaker 1: into play. And I find that the best, most genuine
Speaker 1: stuff really is this stuff that just kind of rings
Speaker 1: in your heart that you're like, I would like to
Speaker 1: do this, or maybe I would like to do this.
Speaker 1: I think this might be neat. You've got to follow that, like,
Speaker 1: follow all those leads toward it, and then the people
Speaker 1: will be like, oh, yeah, that's that's what I meant
Speaker 1: about that thing. Like, but you can kind of get
Speaker 1: stuck getting guided from these outside voices, and you're kind
Speaker 1: of and loose getting in tune with what that is
Speaker 1: that you want to be doing in there. But the
Speaker 1: greatest thing I had heard recently was like things you're
Speaker 1: curious about? Instead of like what are you passionate about?
Speaker 1: It's passionate, sort of fleeting. It's like I'm passionate about
Speaker 1: this and tomorrow Like that was so passionate about it,
Speaker 1: but like, what are you curious about? Like you know
Speaker 1: what I'd like to see? Like maybe it be kind
Speaker 1: of cool if wouldn't it be neat? I wonder if
Speaker 1: like all those thoughts will lead you to your destiny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have I have one more question than we're gonna
Speaker 1: play an icebreaker really quick. But you can win an
Speaker 1: Oscar for special effects? Okay, you can win an Emmy
Speaker 1: for your show? Or can you get em? We haven't
Speaker 1: been nominated for an Emmy, and you know, I think
Speaker 1: they think it's fake, but it's not fake. Don't you agree?
Speaker 1: We had a People's Choice nomination once critics it was
Speaker 1: it was just important to be nominated by something. No,
Speaker 1: that's amazing, that's amazing. Um, so you can have and
Speaker 1: then what do people on tourquin or like that could
Speaker 1: be fun a Broadway I'm coming up with it right now.
Speaker 1: Bubbly it up. The Michael Carbonaro explains the universe. It's
Speaker 1: just how the universe works. Secret time portals. I like
Speaker 1: a big old Doug Henning kind of float and get
Speaker 1: compressed into These are my dreams. Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: so happy you're doing this, and I'm going to wear
Speaker 1: a rainbow leotard. No, maybe you know, maybe the new
Speaker 1: wave rainbow like that though. Okay, so what are you
Speaker 1: what are you going to take a Tony for your
Speaker 1: show and Emmy for your show? Oh my god, you
Speaker 1: have many shows and then Oscar for special effects. That's
Speaker 1: really hard because special I would go for the Tony
Speaker 1: because I would, you know, like, if there's anything I
Speaker 1: know I am, If it's like specialist, magician, actor, comedian,
Speaker 1: what is it? It is entertainer. The tour show is
Speaker 1: so much fun. It's great you come see me do
Speaker 1: this stuff that I do on the TV show really
Speaker 1: happening live. I think that even the biggest fans of
Speaker 1: the show who watched the TV show like, but can
Speaker 1: you really do things like that? If I was really
Speaker 1: there and boom, I do. So I know that you
Speaker 1: call people up on stage during your show? How do
Speaker 1: you pick who you're who you're going to pick? How
Speaker 1: do you pick who you're gonna bring people up? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because it's like the TV show. It's got that improvisational
Speaker 1: fun and you never know exactly where it's going to
Speaker 1: go when you have someone from the audience. But there's
Speaker 1: like it's almost like a little instant casting session because
Speaker 1: there's like different tricks that different people work better for.
Speaker 1: Like I'm always picking like a kid for this one,
Speaker 1: an adult guy for this one, and a lady for
Speaker 1: this one, and you know, but how does that work?
Speaker 1: Do you pick real time? Yeah? Really? What if you
Speaker 1: get some like crazy? But that's part of it. You know.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you get someone who's a dud so to speak,
Speaker 1: and they're like not engage right, you know. But I
Speaker 1: have really good luck and I have pretty good like instincts,
Speaker 1: Like you can walk right out there into the crowd
Speaker 1: and I'll walk amongst them and I'll just feel it.
Speaker 1: And sometimes that person can come up and then they
Speaker 1: get petrified and then that can you know. But even
Speaker 1: like if I bring up kids, there's just one segmme,
Speaker 1: I bring up two kids and if they like freeze up,
Speaker 1: that can be really funny too, because it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: everyone's laughing at that. You know, guys, he calls people
Speaker 1: up on stage. You can touch him, you can smell
Speaker 1: his musk. That's one of the that's an upgraded ticket
Speaker 1: right there, the musk touching, musk sniffing segment. I would
Speaker 1: go see you live. I mean some of the stuff
Speaker 1: I was, I will there you go? When will you
Speaker 1: be in l a for all the low parch a
Speaker 1: dynasty typewriter? That is so soon? How many shows do
Speaker 1: you find up? I just like this tour was like
Speaker 1: a hundred This leg of the tour was like a
Speaker 1: hundred gigs. And when do you sleep? Well? It's really Oh,
Speaker 1: I know. Do you drink coke? I actually have diet
Speaker 1: coke in my show right now? I do. I'm telling
Speaker 1: you my live tour right now has diet coke. And
Speaker 1: I thought you were joking, not joking. That's I swear.
Speaker 1: I swear, and it's my favorite new trick in the show.
Speaker 1: Hold on you. After all this diet coke talk and
Speaker 1: hashtag spot on, I've been trying to tell you you
Speaker 1: actually have a Diet Coke. Have a Diet Coke bit
Speaker 1: in the show? Does he really? Okay? Manager has confirmed
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I Coke. You call, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: Diet Coke call him Hello, this is Diet Coke. He
Speaker 1: actually they actually call even though this is recorded. Okay,
Speaker 1: So where can people get tickets to your show? Michael
Speaker 1: Carbonaro dot com spelled just like it sounds, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, Ticketmaster has tons of the tour, but the
Speaker 1: tours really you could find it on Michael Carbonaro dot
Speaker 1: com and all my web stuff, which I'm like at
Speaker 1: Carbonaro on Twitter and at Carbonaro on Instagram. You can
Speaker 1: go to my bio and click right into the site. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: we're going to take an exclusive but refreshing break with
Speaker 1: Diet Coke. And when I say break, I mean we're
Speaker 1: literally going to break into Michael Carbonaro's film. How does
Speaker 1: that sound a great? I've got some pictures to delete.
Speaker 1: It feels well, You're gonna be really mad at me.
Speaker 1: Last place you ordered from on Postmates? I did it
Speaker 1: like last week. I think it was the Pressed Juicery.
Speaker 1: Would you order? I ordered three day juice cleans. I
Speaker 1: did three Day Green's Juice Clarence Last, why are you
Speaker 1: doing that? Because I was like, I was like off
Speaker 1: the gym thing, thank you, thank you, But it's a
Speaker 1: it's just been a struggle. Did you do it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You're healthy. Yeah it looks like I am. You are Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's because we didn't go into like yelp. Okay,
Speaker 1: last misscall a k who you sent a voice sail
Speaker 1: Kyle Thomas. No, what I did? Miss? That was a
Speaker 1: genuine miss. I bet it was. That was a genuine miss.
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of numbers. I don't know that. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of right over there. I know I'm getting
Speaker 1: a lot of like calls from my hometown, Long Island,
Speaker 1: and they don't leave messages. That's weird. It is Okay.
Speaker 1: Last song you played on your phone? Okay? Oh boy,
Speaker 1: oh Dream Warriors by Skin from Nightmare Now Street three.
Speaker 1: But before that was Billie Eilish, So that's pretty hip.
Speaker 1: You know this you want to hear. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: list this. This is my playlist. This was a jogging playlist.
Speaker 1: Hazard by Richard Marks, California, Cation by the Red Hot
Speaker 1: Chili Peppers, Midnight Train to Georgia Bury a friend and
Speaker 1: then Dream Warriors. That was my run so so weird.
Speaker 1: It was great, but it goes all over the place,
Speaker 1: so you can you don't get like our enough Billy
Speaker 1: Ellish running, you know, Eilish. First person in your favorites,
Speaker 1: first person in my favorites? First, First of all, the
Speaker 1: first part of my favorites is Matt Chick, who is
Speaker 1: my like co creative partner. But and I'll say, the
Speaker 1: first person in your favorites isn't kind of the easiest
Speaker 1: one to call? Sort of in the middle is that?
Speaker 1: Do you know that you're like, go to favorites? It's
Speaker 1: like sometimes oh yeah, it's right in the middle of
Speaker 1: your finger, doesn't middle one? I've got mom and Amelia's
Speaker 1: Iran Brown? Okay, cool, Okay. Last person you texted? What
Speaker 1: did you say? Okay? I said it says f me,
Speaker 1: but it was it was about something else, like I
Speaker 1: made a mistake. It was like, oh, f me was
Speaker 1: the last text? Okay. Most recent incoming d M. My
Speaker 1: friend Chad Sanborn, who works on the show, sent me
Speaker 1: a video of a snake attacking a little kitten. Right now,
Speaker 1: but what happens? What happens too? And a kitten lover,
Speaker 1: kitten crazy, and then all of a sudden, the kitten's
Speaker 1: face opens up and it's this weird like giant mouth,
Speaker 1: and you realize that both the snake and the kitten
Speaker 1: are actually hand painted like art. It's too it's too
Speaker 1: human hands. Ye, it's called happy ending. You're uber rating, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is very shocking. Oh, okay, it's right there, food.
Speaker 1: Thank You's I wonder what I got points off for? Okay,
Speaker 1: last question, I'll stop torturing you. Most embarrassing app on
Speaker 1: your phone. I have this relaxed yoga app. You make
Speaker 1: your own yoga music. I don't do yoga, but you
Speaker 1: can kind of build little soundscapes like you like add
Speaker 1: bubbling water with the sound of a wind chime and
Speaker 1: you mix them up yourself, because that's the world we
Speaker 1: live in. Now, you're like, I'm going to control exactly
Speaker 1: how the relaxation comes to me. Well, guys, I don't
Speaker 1: know where to go from here. You can only go
Speaker 1: up always. It was so fun having you on the show.
Speaker 1: Thank you for stopping by. When your show goes to Broadway,
Speaker 1: your ass is coming back, all right, I'm dragging him.
Speaker 1: Oh to do the show. So you're gonna look, I'm
Speaker 1: getting you out of it. If you get to Broadway,
Speaker 1: I'm taking you down. You're coming back, first show ever
Speaker 1: trained to Georgia. Yeah, but you definitely have to come back.
Speaker 1: I know you have so many great things in the works,
Speaker 1: and you're such an inspiration to so many people. I
Speaker 1: think gonna do big, big things. And I'm also a
Speaker 1: psychic so firm. Yep, me too. Wait wait three diamonds?
Speaker 1: Were you just thinking of the three? Yes? Radio? So
Speaker 1: don't forget to check out all of Michael's stuff. It's
Speaker 1: all on his website. You can buy the tickets there.
Speaker 1: You can watch his show on iTunes, True TV, obviously
Speaker 1: Amazon do it watch it a hunter times, great great content, guys.
Speaker 1: All right, that's all I got, did you know? Our
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