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Speaker 3: Charlie heck at tackle at least for today's practice.

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Speaker 1: Possibly. We're gonna work them at a bunch of spots,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not gonna play in these two games.

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Speaker 1: Or I think you understood yeah. Mm. If you're looking

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Speaker 1: I mean, I still feel the same about him. I

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Speaker 2: Fourteen, the only year Pocket Turner has been with you

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Speaker 2: or your dad was that what happened in is just

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Speaker 2: a random question investigating this, But like, how come we

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Speaker 2: o the Browns?

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Speaker 1: Because I'm not always in charge of hiring the staff, No,

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Speaker 1: no one really came with me. I just got hired

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Speaker 1: last I got hired in February and they had a

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Speaker 1: running back coach there, So you don't always get a

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Speaker 1: pick your staff when you're not the head coach. I

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Speaker 1: believe so yeah yeah, alright, guess