1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and Uncle Stephan. Never 2 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: told your prediction of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,480 Speaker 2: And welcome to another edition a Feminist around the World. 4 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: And you know what, there's been a lot of things 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 2: happening recently, and as we have successfully gotten through Thanksgiving, 6 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: I like to call that like the portion one of 7 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 2: holiday season, or as we will call it, Native American 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: Heritage Day, we thought you would take it some time 9 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: to talk about activists and members who of the Native 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: peoples and what they have been doing and continued more 11 00:00:46,880 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: than they have done. And you know what, we wanted 12 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: to talk about a woman who has been a fierce warrior, 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: an advocate for her people and the First Nations people 14 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 2: here in the US and BT. She was included in 15 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: our portion of When Women Rise in our newly released 16 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 2: I guess not newly this year? Is it still newly released? 17 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: I don't know any worse. It feels like ages. 18 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Ago, everything does. I pulled it up recently, our manuscript, 19 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 2: so the way we were working on it, I was like, wow, 20 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 2: this feels like forever. Why it is still in here? 21 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 2: But yes, in our book that we did release in 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: August that we've been working on for ten thousand years 23 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: and that has just kind of come and gone, I guess. 24 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 2: But we did talk about her and her organization in 25 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: that portion and with the organization she co founded known 26 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 2: as WARN or Women of All Read Nations, and as 27 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 2: in fact, we wanted to read a little excerpt from 28 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 2: the book. Yes, any I think you've read this part 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: in our audiobook, didn't you. 30 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 1: It also feels like a very long. 31 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: It was one of us, obviously, because the two of 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: us were the ones who did it, so I can't 33 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: remember if it was you or me. 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: I think you. 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 2: Who knows, but hey, if someone's listened to the audio version, 36 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 2: let me know. But I'm going to read it for 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: this fortune. Uh huh, sorry it is. After the founding 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight, then subsequent splinter of the American Indian Movement, 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 2: veterans of the movement and others came together to create 40 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: another powerful group. The Organization of Women of All Red 41 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 2: Nations or WARN. WARREN was created in nineteen seventy four 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 2: by Janet MacLeod and Madonna Gilbert thunder Hawk, who, after 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: seeing that for the most part, Indigenous women were being 44 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: ignored not just in the movement but in society, overall 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 2: because they were seen as powerless. These women recognize the 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 2: fact that they needed a space to come together safely, 47 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: especially during a time when the Indigenous community was being 48 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: placed on watch lists and considered threats by the government. 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: Warren began as an organization that focused on the knees 50 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 2: of Native women and issues affecting them, but they soon 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: expanded to include issues of prison reform and the overall 52 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 2: culture of imprisonment for indiation as people. The group has 53 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: also been tirelessly protesting the exploitation of the Native communities 54 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: and land in an effort to protect their own lands, resources, 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 2: and the environment. They have helped to stop the uranium 56 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 2: mining corporation that was polluting the South Dakota waters and 57 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 2: have been a part of the protests to stop the 58 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 2: Keystone x Line pipelines. Warren has been a leader in 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:22,679 Speaker 2: advocating for the rights of Indigenous women, as well as 60 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: the fight over a number of other issues, including improving healthcare, 61 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: expanding reproductive rights, and seeking to end violence against women. 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 2: So very short, I wish we could make it bigger, 63 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: and we are going to talk a little more about them. 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 2: When we talked about the book process on an earlier episode, 65 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: we mentioned that not only did we have the hard 66 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: task of choosing who or what we would cover in 67 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 2: the book, but after deciding that, editing down the amount 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: of content we had, which included this section and even 69 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 2: this specific topic. Yeah. Like Anie and I went through 70 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: things and they're like, we're going to cut this part out, 71 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 2: but we like. 72 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 1: It, but that's important. Yeah. 73 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 2: So literally, we pulled specific women we talked about, we 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 2: pulled organizations that we wanted to talk about. They're like, 75 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: it's getting to Wikipedia. I'm like, okay, that's kind of fair. 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: We just want to talk about them, which is what 77 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: I like to do. So we did have a hard time, 78 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 2: and obviously we took the section and made it much smaller. 79 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: So we wanted to talk about the impact the organization 80 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 2: has had since its inception and how today thunder Hawk 81 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 2: continues to make impact on her community, including with our children. 82 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: So one was created out of the much needed attention 83 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: for the women in marginalized group within the Indigenous community. 84 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: With so many issues happening during a tumultuous time within 85 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: the Indigenous community during the nineteen seventies and during the 86 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: Wounded Need occupation, the women leaders came together with several 87 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 2: hundred women from over thirty different groups and tribes, So 88 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 2: a lot of women came together realizing, hey, we're not 89 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 2: part of this anymore, like they're not paying attention to us, 90 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: they think that we're powerless. And including the fact that 91 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: many of the men who were in leadership were being 92 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 2: arrested and or hurt and definitely being watched by the FBI. 93 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: And just so you know, so was Madonna. She and 94 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 2: the women who were seen as medics that were part 95 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: of the occupation were also under a watch list. So 96 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 2: very very very pointed. But it was mainly the men 97 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: who were being detained and arrested, so oftentimes there was 98 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 2: no one there to take up the leadership. These women did, 99 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: and during this time, they not only took up the 100 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: leadership of their communities, but also helped bring focus on 101 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: the injustices that affected the women specifically, including the forced 102 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: sterilization of many of the indigenous women during that time. 103 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: And there's a lot of conversation we've talked about it, 104 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: as in fact, my first episode with Behind the Bastards 105 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: talked about eugenics and for sterilization of women, specifically with 106 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: bad types of birth control and or coerced surgeries, all 107 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 2: these things that were obvious ways to control a population. 108 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: And yes, it's not a conspiracy theory. They actually did 109 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 2: this to a lot of marginalized groups, especially to the 110 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: Native indigenous groups here in the US. So they said 111 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: specifically in uh Wikipedia, sorry, so this is all I'm like, 112 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: this is altogether here, so I'm going to put it here, 113 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: but I didn't want to read this it says. In 114 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six, the US General Accounting Office found that 115 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 2: from nineteen seventy three to nineteen seventy six, three thousand, 116 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 2: four hundred and six Native American women underwent co sterilization 117 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: procedures in just four of the twelve IHS service areas. 118 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: Out of these three thousand, four hundred and six women, 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: thirty six of them were under the age of twenty one. 120 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 2: These thirty six young women were sterilized in direct violation 121 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: of a court order stating the minimum age of sterilization 122 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: procedures to be twenty one. The total number of conilizations 123 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: during the period across all twelve IHS areas was estimated 124 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 2: to be a roughly three thousand per year, and so 125 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 2: a lot of this conversation was happening after the fact, 126 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: and there are people noticing things were happening, why this 127 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 2: was happening. And this doesn't even include Native children being 128 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: taken away from families and being put into very white, 129 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: very non native homes for a reason. And then that 130 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: also doesn't involve some of the schools that were created 131 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: way back when that still existed in many of the areas, 132 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 2: especially in the northern areas, to keep children away from 133 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: the Native communities for a reason. So one of the 134 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: things that Warren did was specifically work to get this 135 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: report out and to fight against it. And they even 136 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 2: talked about the fact that they had to educate their 137 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: own people to about what was happening, that this was 138 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: should be against law, and they were all being silenced 139 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: and quietly coerced into doing these procedures that they did 140 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: not want. Obviously, being under the age of twenty one, 141 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 2: there's a lot of questions about what is happening and 142 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: who's doing it, and why they're doing it. And with 143 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 2: those different types of things that they looked into, they 144 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: also again worked in the mining system, trying to stop 145 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: the pollution of their land and taking of their resources. Yes, 146 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 2: they are a part of the protests and political actions 147 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,480 Speaker 2: that include the Wounded Knee occupation which killed several people, 148 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: including FBI agents. And there's still a big debate about 149 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 2: people who are arrested and falsely arrested possibly and then 150 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 2: the treatment of those people who are arrested up until 151 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: the present day, I believe. So there's a lot of 152 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: conversation about what Warren was doing and how hard they 153 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: fought for this, and I believe they're still around. Obviously, 154 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: some of these incidents happened in twenty twenty, so not 155 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: too long ago, so I believe they are still technically 156 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: active dot dot dot. But that is there because people 157 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: from Warren, So we'll go with that. And then here's 158 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 2: a quote about what she's been doing since then. It 159 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: is from a twenty twenty two interview with Women's innus 160 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: dot org. It says as she moved forward, her work 161 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: as a frontline protester and reformer evolved. She doesn't like 162 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: the word activists, saying it's overused. She co founded Women 163 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 2: of All Red Nations WORN, which focused on Native women's issues. 164 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 2: She also co founded the Black Hills Alliance to fight 165 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 2: uranium mining on Sacred Lakota land. She helped establish a 166 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: survivor school and alternative to government run schools where culturally 167 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: relevant teachings about topics like tribal sovereignty where the norm. 168 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 2: She currently works as a tribal liaison for the Lakota 169 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 2: People's Law Project, which quote partners with Native communities to 170 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:01,119 Speaker 2: protect sacred lands, safeguard human rights, promote sustainability, the reunite 171 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: indigenous families, and much more. And this is a quote 172 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 2: from thunder Hawk. Your work changes as you age. I'm 173 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 2: still busy. These issues are still there. There's land based 174 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 2: issues and water issues, and I thought, if you want 175 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 2: to go back and read that she has Actually she's 176 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: on the podcast. I'm sure you can listen to that 177 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: as well. She has been working still like she's at 178 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: eighty three. She is still trucking with her activism, which 179 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 2: she does love, but you know, with her work and 180 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 2: continued fight for that. She has been doing this four 181 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: years and been very loud and proud about it. And 182 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 2: of course she's been recognized for her work, including being 183 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 2: written about, including in our book U, but also in 184 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 2: documentaries and film, including a documentary that was released in 185 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one titled Warrior Women. And here's a quote 186 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 2: about that. Now, forty years later, Madonna is moving into 187 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: the twilight of her life, fighting the inevitable slowing she dreads. 188 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 2: She constantly worries aloud who she will quote pass the 189 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: torch to warrior women, veils not only the women's perspect 190 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 2: on history, but also real life activism, echoing far beyond 191 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 2: news events into generations to come. And then it's pretty 192 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: much a movie about her and her daughter and the 193 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 2: continued activism that they do today and their work they 194 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 2: do today and her passing it on to her family, 195 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: which is beautiful to see. And yes, so earlier this 196 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,239 Speaker 2: year was the fiftieth anniversary of the Wounded Knee occupation. 197 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 2: She has several interviews and several articles talking about her 198 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: memories there and what happened there, and apparently she's still 199 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: very cautious about what she says rightly, So there's a 200 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: lot if you look into the article, because when we 201 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: were researching for the book, there are things I was like, oh, 202 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 2: this is kind of iffy, this is controversial. I'm not 203 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: sure what we can include what we can't. But also 204 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: remembering that the nineteen seventies had a lot of right 205 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: wing tactics and like we can do we know it 206 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 2: today still like what we see is propaganda versus what 207 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 2: was the truth and how slowly things are coming out, 208 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: especially during a time that didn't have a lot of 209 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 2: social media or didn't give voice to Native communities and 210 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: native people, So trying to decipher through all of that 211 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 2: is a whole issue. So and I'm sure she is 212 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 2: still concerned about her safety and being watched. 213 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was one of those things where, Yeah, when 214 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: we were writing this book, there were so many people 215 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: that we wanted to talk about and we wanted to 216 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: talk more in depth about because that is I'm glad 217 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: other people are, you know, doing a book while aren't 218 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 1: doing a documentary. I should say about just her because 219 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: we couldn't do it, but it deserves the whole thing, 220 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: deserves its own book. 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