1 00:00:02,840 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia for this Thursday, February ninth 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: in Hong Kong, Wednesday February eight in New York and 3 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: coming up today. US stocks fall as FED officials keep 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: up calls for further rate hikes. Walt Disney will cut 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: seven thousand jobs in a major new restructuring and credit 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: sweets Eyes three hundred eighty million dollars in bonuses for 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: its top executives. The US continues efforts to recover the 8 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: alleged Chinese by balloon. China says Cloben numbers have dropped significantly, 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: while Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelinsky visits England. End in global sports, 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: Manchester United MISSUS a chance to move up to second 11 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: in the league table on Dan Schwartsmen, I'll have global 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: news in sports that's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: Asia on Bloomberg eleven and three on New York Bloomberg 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: nine one, Washington, d C, Bloomberg one six one, Boston, 15 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine sixties, San Francisco, Sirius XM one nineteen and 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: around the world on Bloomberg Radio dot Com and via 17 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Business Act. Good morning, I'm Doug Prisoner, and 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,160 Speaker 1: I'm Brian Curtis. Here are the stories we're following. Today, 19 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: Disney CEO Bob Iger announced plans for a dramatic restructuring 20 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: of the company. Disney will cut seven thousand jobs as 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: it seeks five and a half billion dollars in cost savings. 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: I got to discussed more of the changes on Disney's 23 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: earnings call. We will aggressively curate our general entertainment content. 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: We will reassess all markets we have launched in and 25 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: also determine the right balance between global and local content. 26 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: Will adjust our pricing strategy, including a full examination of 27 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: our promotional strategies. As part of the changes, Disney will 28 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: be reorganized into three divisions, its main TV and film businesses, 29 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the ESPN Sports Networks, and the theme park unit. I 30 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: said the reorganization is intended to improve profit margins. Separately, 31 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: Disney announced to upbeat financial results, led by big gains 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: at the theme parks. Losses in the streaming business more 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: than doubled to about one point zero five billion dollars 34 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: from a year earlier, but that was about two hundred 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: million better than what management had forecast three months ago. 36 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: Disney shares a trading higher, up about four point eight 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: percent in after hours. More hawkish messaging today from the Fed. 38 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 1: We heard from Governor Chris Waller. He basically said that 39 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: rates need to remain higher for longer, more so than 40 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 1: some are currently expecting, and at the same time, the 41 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: head of the Minneapolis Fed, Neil cash Cary, was saying 42 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: that despite some hopeful signs on inflation, more work needs 43 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: to be done. There's not yet much evidence, in my 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: judgment that the rate hikes that we've done so far 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: are having much effect on the labor market, and we 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: need to bring the labor market into balance. So that 47 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 1: tells me we need to do more. How much more, 48 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't know for sure. Neil Cash carry there who 49 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: went on to say the Fed will likely need to 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: hike that Fed funds RACHEL around five point four percent 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: in order to bring inflation down to that two percent target. 52 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: Brian and Doug to me, this was the standout line 53 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: New York Fed Chief John Williams, saying that the policy 54 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: may need to be restrictive for a few more years 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: for the Fed to reach its inflation target. He also 56 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: noted that the FED officials peak rate forecast from December 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: are very reasonable. Policy Makers had projected interest rates to 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 1: rise up to five point one percent at the media 59 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: and level this year. It implies a couple of more 60 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: rate hikes will occur. In Williams said that basis points 61 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: that that kind of move seems about the right size. 62 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: I think these twenty five basis point steps allow us 63 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: to both adjust policy based on the new information and 64 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: what's going on and get us to to our goal 65 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: as we need to. Obviously, if the situation changed, you know, significantly, 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: we would we would have the ability to move quicker 67 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: than that, or or a just course. But right now, 68 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I think the basis point increase we just put in 69 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: place seems like the right size to adjust policy, at 70 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: least given one I'm seeing today. As John Williams speaking 71 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: at the Wall Street Journals CFO Network summer. Speaking separately, 72 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: FED Governor Lisa Cook said that officials were committed to 73 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: curbing inflation and that further tightening was warranted, although Cook 74 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: favored maintaining a gradual approach. In India, the Addanni group 75 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: is planning to prepay five hundred million dollar bridge loan 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: that is due next month. We have that story from 77 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Annabel Drulers. Adani had been talking with several banks 78 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: about refinancing part of the loan, but the company decided 79 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: instead to prepay it. Last year, A Danni borrowed four 80 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: point five billion dollars to purchase assets of wholesome cement. 81 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: The lenders included Barclay's, Standard, Charted and Deutsche Bank. Talks 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: on refinancing the debt started a week before Hindenburg Research 83 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: accused Adani a stock manipulation and fraud. That's according to sources, 84 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: who also told us that when these accusations were published, 85 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: discussions with the banks stalled. This marks the second time 86 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: in a week that Adanni has taken steps to prepay 87 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,599 Speaker 1: debt as ad fins to regain investor confidence. In Hong Kong, 88 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: I'm Annabel, Rules, Bloomberg, Daybreak Asia and earlier today in 89 00:05:05,279 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: the Indian session, shares in seven of the ten companies 90 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: within the ADNNI group umbrella ended higher. The flagship A 91 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: Donnie Enterprises Brian rallied m We're only credit Sweez plans 92 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 1: to reward its top executives bonuses of about three hundred 93 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: eighty million dollars, but it's conditional. The payout will be 94 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: made if the bank's restructuring succeeds more From Bloomberg yvon Mann, 95 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: A source says the bonuses are targeted at the top 96 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: one of the firm's staff, that's about five hundred senior managers. 97 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: The Financial Time says the award would need to be 98 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: approved by shareholders at a meeting in April. If approved, 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: it would be the second year that Credit Swiez has 100 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: offered a long term reward. A year ago, I granted 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: staff about five and forty million dollars worth of one 102 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:56,720 Speaker 1: time awards. Now, even with the added bonuses, overall, the 103 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: firm is considering cutting its bonus pool for two by 104 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: as much as fifty percent. That says it was forced 105 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: to raise capital after a string of losses in Hong Kong. 106 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: I'm Yvonne Maham Bloomberg Daybreak Asia stock did gain about 107 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: six tenths of one percent, but it has been under 108 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: enormous pressure over the past year, down about two thirds 109 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: Well doug the Disney restructuring is perhaps one of the 110 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: more interesting stories of the day, along with some of 111 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: those comments from Fed speakers. Disney has been successful with 112 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: some of these previous restructurings, particularly when they added the 113 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: online streaming business, and then also when they acquired all 114 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: those assets. Here's another one. Yeah, and Bob Iger back 115 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 1: at the Helm obviously, and the board we know was 116 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: very dissatisfied with what Bob Chapeck had been doing earlier. 117 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: So here comes Iger restructuring in a major way, three 118 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 1: separate units now And as a part of the call 119 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: with analyst, Igor is saying that Disney is not engaged 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: in conversations about spinning off e SPN. Now that's one 121 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: of the divisions, Brian. There's been a lot of talk 122 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: about the possibility that Disney would free itself of ESPN somehow, 123 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: moving it away from the overall Disney entertainment operation, but 124 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: at this point, Eiger doesn't see that happening. Yeah, it's 125 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: difficult to say because ESPN is very valuable. Obviously, the 126 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: theme parks are very valuable. They were extremely profitable. Here 127 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: profit was up and the revenues ESPN lost money. But 128 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: longer term, you know, live sports is about the biggest 129 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: crowd pleas are really of all television programming, So there's 130 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: a way to make it work. I think they're just 131 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: looking for that way. One of the things I thought 132 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: was also curious is that two million customers left the 133 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: Disney Plus platform in the last quarter, and a lot 134 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: of that had to do with the hot Star platform 135 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: as the result of it losing the broadcast rights to 136 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: Are you ready for this Indian cricket? Yeah? Alright, Doug, 137 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: it is time for Global News. Will the G seven 138 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: member states be sanctioning Chinese companies for helping Russia? That's 139 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: a big question. Dan Schwartzman has Global News in the 140 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: nine in the newsroom in New York. Dan, Yeah, Brian, 141 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: it's a big debate whether the sanctioned companies in China 142 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: also included around in North Korea for assisting Russia with 143 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: parts and technology that could be used for military purposes. 144 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: Now discussions are just in the early stages, but a 145 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: package of sanctions could be enacted by February, which happens 146 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,679 Speaker 1: to be the one year university of Russia's invasion of Ukraine. 147 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: Now the G seven is aiming to cut off the 148 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: supply of materials that are traveling through third countries that 149 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: haven't signed up for sanctioning Russia. Now Iran is accused 150 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: of supplying those drones. North Korea set to be sending ammunition. 151 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: Chinese firms believed to be selling technological components. The US 152 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: continues efforts to recover the alleged Chinese by balloon off 153 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: the coast of South Carolina, with Secretary of State Anthony 154 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: Lincoln saying that the US has shared information about the 155 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: balloon with dozens of countries around the world. Pentagon spokesman 156 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: Brigadier General Writers says, the Chinese spy program has been massive. 157 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: When you look at the scope of this program, UH 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: and the fact that we know that these balloons have 159 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,679 Speaker 1: been spotted and what we now can subsequently assessed to 160 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: be Chinese balloons operating over at least five continents and 161 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: regions like Latin America, South America, uh Southeast Asia, East Asia, 162 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: and Europe. Again, it demonstrates why for the Department of 163 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: Defense that China remains the pacing challenge and something that 164 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: will continue to stay focused on. General Writers says the 165 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: US was though able to learn more about China's spying 166 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: program as the balloon crossed the country. Now, China has 167 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: denied the balloon was for spying purposes. They continue to 168 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: insist it's a weather balloon that kind of flew off course. 169 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: According to China's Center of Disease Control and Prevention. The 170 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: number of COVID related deaths drop by night percent from 171 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: January's peak levels. On Monday, a hundred two deaths were 172 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: recorded at hospitals across the mainland. That's down from a 173 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: high of almost forty three hundred on January four. Severe 174 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: hospitalization cases have also declined from a hundred twenty thousand 175 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 1: on January five to just two thousand. Ukrainian President Voladimir 176 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: Zelenski making a surprise visiting England earlier today and meeting 177 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: with Prime Minister Rishi Sunek as well as King Charles 178 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: the Third. Zelenski also addressing lawmakers in parliament and praising 179 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: the resolve of the country. You didn't compromise Ukraine, and 180 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: hence you didn't compromise your ideals, and thus you didn't 181 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: compromise the spirit of these great islands. Thank you very much. 182 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Zelenski also visiting Paris and meeting with French President Emmanuel 183 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:40,680 Speaker 1: mccron and German Chancellor Olof Schultz. He's next expected to 184 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: head to Brussels to talk with the YOU leaders in 185 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: the summit, as well as addressed the European Parliament that 186 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 1: will be Thursday Global News twenty four hours a day, 187 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: powered by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts 188 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: in over a hundred and twenty countries. Um, Dan Schwartzman, 189 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: and this is Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. And 190 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Brian curtis here in Hong Kong along with Rashad Salama, 191 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: and we are looking at a guest, Carol Pepper joining 192 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 1: a seer, founder and CEO of Pepper International. So we're 193 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: at the FED. Carol, our boss says that we are 194 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: data dependent, and then we have a members say we're 195 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: going to keep policy restrictive for a few years to 196 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: make sure we get inflation to two rattle markets today, 197 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: it's probably going to rattle markets, um for some time 198 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 1: to come. Sell Um, I don't say sell, I mean 199 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 1: I think you know the they were some of the 200 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: members of the Fed seemed to be afraid that Powell 201 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: sounded too nice and that the market was taking the 202 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: bit in its teeth again and starting to run, and 203 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: they were trying to, you know, calm things down. So 204 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: it's a it's a funny balancing act, you know, be 205 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: all these statements. But I do think they will follow 206 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: the data. I do think, um my, my guess if 207 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: you asked me to put a number on it, they're 208 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: going to stop at five point one, maybe five point 209 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: three if things are really bad. But I don't see 210 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: them going to six like some people are starting to bet. 211 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: I think that's a bunch of traders who just love betting. Um. 212 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: I think that we're actually in a pretty good position 213 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 1: right now, and it's not high enough to kill everything entirely, 214 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: but it certainly has slow things down, which is a 215 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: good thing, so Carol, I mean, the thing is they 216 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: would also probably be staying at that level for a 217 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: period of time that Do you think that the markets 218 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:30,679 Speaker 1: are getting that message. Yes, I mean they know they 219 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: don't want it to be so they want to rally. 220 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: They wanted to go down. They want the markets to run. 221 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: They always want that, but you know, until inflation comes 222 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: down a bit. I do think it's interesting to watch 223 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: all these corporates jumping on the bandwagon together to do 224 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: cuts so that that will help the employment rate, which 225 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: they're all complaining about is too high. I mean, the 226 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,840 Speaker 1: employment participation rate, by the way, is still not where 227 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: it was pre COVID, so they're not looking at that number, 228 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: which I think they should because there's just been a 229 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: lot of early retiree and the baby boomers and not 230 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: that many workers replacing them from the millennial generation. So 231 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: you know, a raw number of how many people got 232 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: a job is not completely helpful. But you know, I 233 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm much more positive, I think, and I do think 234 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 1: this year will be good. This is the first full 235 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: year after COVID, and I think the world is starting 236 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: to come back online, which is a good thing. I 237 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: just like to stir things up a little bit, uh. I. 238 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: I do think that at the FED you had the 239 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: chief come out and uh he played the role of 240 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: the adult in the room at at the news conference 241 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 1: after the meeting, and he was the adult as well 242 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: in the interview with David Rubinstein. But then you have 243 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: all these parents come out and scolding you, wagging their 244 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: finger about about markets. Says I just like to stir 245 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: that up a little bit. Um Uh. Do do you 246 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: think that that the FED will unify its policy or 247 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: they like it that different people are saying different things. 248 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never been in a closed 249 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: to our meeting with the FED, but I do thinkbviously 250 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 1: they could have stopped the multiple messaging if they want to. 251 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: But that's you know, that's America. We have people with 252 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: lots of different opinions and they like to mouth off. 253 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: So I think that will continue to be the case. Um, 254 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: and I do think, you know, don't I fear not, 255 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 1: keep calm and carry on. That's how I look at it, Carol. 256 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: I wanted just to elegate your portfolio. And you've got 257 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: for the risk part of your portfolio, you're looking at 258 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: cybersecurity pad with AI. At the safe part, you're looking 259 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: at dividends yield, in other words, to tell us how 260 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: you divide those up into what precisely. Yes, Well, Um, 261 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: first of all, it's very very difficult to ever catch 262 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: the turn between growth and value. So as you guys know, 263 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: I manage money for family offices, people with over a 264 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, and we don't try to second guess 265 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: that turn. It's almost impossible. So I I tell people, 266 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: don't overthink it. Just go half and half half in 267 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: growth and half in more value or cash flowing type 268 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: of stocks. Um. And and within those sectors, look at 269 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: what's what makes sense for you. So, for example, on 270 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: the cash flowing side, we're looking at dividend, aristocrats, utilities, 271 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: waste management, even oil and gas dividends are still going 272 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: to be strong and healthy for a while. And then 273 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: on the growth side, you know, when growth starts to run, 274 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: it's always all about tech. I mean we've we've seen 275 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: even this year, as I was speaking about last month. 276 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 1: You know, tech is going to run. It will run 277 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: the minute things start to look better. And right now, 278 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: there's two very interesting sectors that will do well even 279 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: if we're in a tighter market on the growth side, 280 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: and that would be both cybersecurity and AI AI because 281 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: they're finally making breakthroughs about how to use that technology 282 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: in a better way. But again AI could be very, 283 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: very dangerous to the world, so you must pair it 284 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: with cybersecurity. And that's why I do think companies like 285 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: FORDA Ford you know, they're forarded that they're doing really 286 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: well right now. 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