1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty and now he. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Yetty. 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 3: We're taking them out by the thousands. We're being obstructed. 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 3: It's very unfair what's happening because the court system is 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 3: being it's very unfair. So we're getting them out. It's 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: a very difficult thing with the courts because the courts 9 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: have all of a sudden out of nowhere, they said, 10 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: maybe you have to have trials, trials. We're going to 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 3: have five million trials. Doesn't work. Doesn't work. You wouldn't 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: have a country left. But hopefully the Supreme Court will 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: save it. But what they've done is a very very 14 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 3: serious thing. 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: So how was how was the Deporter in chief, Barack Obama, 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 2: who deported so many people? Did he get him out 17 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: without having a trial for everybody? The new process that 18 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 2: we're talking about now, was it? 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 1: A lot of that was they were apprehended at the border. Okay, 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: he did like the immediate quickie deportation, which is which 21 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: is different for reasons. I mean, we could argue about 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: whether it ought to be or not, but so those 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: differences part of it. 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 2: Biden opened up the border, let gazillions of the biggest 25 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: migration in human history happen. People got well deep into 26 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: the country for years. Then it's a different thing. Yeah. 27 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So within a certain geographic distance from the border, 28 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: that rules change because you're not apprehended. Then you're living here. 29 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: It's again, we could argue about whether that's appropriate or not, 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: but that's the way it is. 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 2: So then you qualify as a person in the United 32 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 2: States as the Constitution. 33 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: Called it, right exactly. You're not just caught sneaking across 34 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 1: the border, your person living here under the jurisdiction. Blah 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: blah blah. So anyway, Trump was explaining why they've gone 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: with various alternative plans to get people out of the country, 37 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: including self deportation. Next clip here with Michael. 38 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 3: So, we're going to have a self deportation where they 39 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: deport themselves out of our country, and we'll work with them, 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: and we're going to try and if we think they're good. 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: They have you know, the people we want in. 42 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: Our country, they're going to come back into our country. 43 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Will give them a little easier route, and then the 44 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 1: world's most glam Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Nome, 45 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: explaining further. 46 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 4: We spend about seventeen thousand dollars arresting, detaining, and deporting 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 4: an illegal alien right now today, If we have the 48 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 4: opportunity to purchase a plane ticket and send someone home 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: with a stipend like this, it saves US thousands and 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 4: thousands of dollars, and it also is a much safer 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 4: situation for officers and for those in communities. 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody said it costs like forty five hundred dollars 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 2: to send them out on average. 54 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: This Stephen Miller, and I thought that was part of 55 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: that same clip. But it doesn't matter. Stephen Miller pointed 56 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: out that over the course of a lifetime or multiple years, 57 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: with public benefits and education and the rest of it, 58 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: could easily cost the American taxpayer a million dollars. 59 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 2: Oh, no, doubt, No, I don't have any quid about that. 60 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,839 Speaker 2: But why does it even cost forty five hundred dollars 61 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: on average? I could fly first class to anywhere in 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: the world for forty five hundred dollars. 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: You have to, you know, arrest them and hold them 64 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: and feed them and get them to the airport. And 65 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. It's just labor costs, among other things, 66 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: facilities costs. I think it's the process of getting them out, 67 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: not just the physical you know, transportation of getting them 68 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: from here to there. Yeah, so I thought that was 69 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: that was interesting and the Supreme Court will rule on this. 70 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: But the whole look, we'll buy a plane ticket, will 71 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: give you a thousand dollars, fill out to paperwork. Maybe 72 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: you can come back some day. It's not going to 73 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: get everybody out, but if it helps, it helps well. 74 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: On the Fox interview, I saw her with this morning 75 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: looking fantastic. Probably shouldn't comment on that, that probably makes me misogynists, 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 2: But yeah. 77 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: I think that was wildly you know. 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 2: Although on the other hand, she didn't put all that 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 2: time and effort into that long hair to make it 80 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 2: look like that to not have it be noticed. That's 81 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: not an accident. It looks lip gloss. Yes, So me 82 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: noticing it makes me a bad person, that's correct. Yes. Anyway, 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: I think she said one person so far has taking 84 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 2: us up on this, so one. 85 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: Total, one ay longest journey, single step look it up. Huh. 86 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 1: I kind of like this because the quotes from Trump 87 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: forty one please from ABC News Michael. 88 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 5: The Trump administration says they've deported one hundred and fifty 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 5: thousand people since January, far short of the pace needed 90 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 5: to remove the tens of millions the president promised. Trump 91 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 5: today blaming required immigration hearings for slowing down his plan. 92 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 3: The courts have all of a sudden, out of nowhere, 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,919 Speaker 3: they said, uh, maybe you have to have trials, trials. 94 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 2: We're going to have five million trials. 95 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: Doesn't work. 96 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Doesn't work. So this is a beautiful Oh it is. 97 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful example. It's like the best one ever 98 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: of the Cloward Pivens strategy that was sixties radicals. You know, 99 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 1: adhere to. The idea is you make the other side 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: live up to their own rules. You insist even as 101 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: you are breaking every rule you can think of. You 102 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: constantly make the other side live up to their own 103 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: rules and principles, and then you overload the system to 104 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: the point that it breaks. This is the absolute classic 105 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: example of that. Biden for whatever bizarro reasons or you know, 106 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: he was so incoherent, maybe it was his progressive aids 107 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 1: or pushing him to do this, but they let in 108 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,919 Speaker 1: so many people so quickly. The systems that exist to 109 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: get people out again are completely overwhelmed. It's like, you know, 110 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: after the tsunami in Japan, that giant flood that ruined 111 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: the Fukushima reactor, that flood of immigrants is just it. 112 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: We're drowning in it. And so then the left is saying, no, no, no, no, 113 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: you have these principles, you have these procedures. You have 114 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: to follow your principles. Having drowned the system. 115 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a tough one. It is completely undoable. Five 116 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: million trials, more like fifteen million to try to get 117 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: people out. So yeah, it's I don't know what the 118 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 2: answer is that this. Well there is an answer, and 119 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 2: national reviews written about it, and it's been talked about 120 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 2: for decades. It's been talking about our entire radio career. 121 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: If you had Everify, where people couldn't hire you unless 122 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 2: you could prove your you've got the paperwork in your ear, 123 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: people would leave because you wouldn't be able to have 124 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:35,239 Speaker 2: a job. 125 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: Somebody pointed out via email the other day that, well, 126 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you have to have employers that are willing to use 127 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: the everify. Oh yeah, I tell you what if they 128 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: don't to enforce it, we enforce the law on them too. 129 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 1: Absolutely hammer them. You're running some sort of chicken killing 130 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: plant in the middle of Iowa and you're not filling 131 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: the filling out your paperwork, mining your p's and q's. Huh, 132 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 1: we'll shut you down. 133 00:06:58,360 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 2: What do you do for a living? 134 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,679 Speaker 1: I work at a chick and kill and I murdered 135 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: chickens and hack them apart. That's what they do. 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 2: It is. 137 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: We're going to meat processing facility. You murder chickens and 138 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: hack them apart. It's okay. 139 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 2: I like chicken. 140 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a carnivore. Speaking of getting back to the 141 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: questions and overwhelming the system and that sort of thing. 142 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: Murdered chickens and act them apart. 143 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: Eric track Suit see from a story Oregon frequent correspondent 144 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: rights Dear Joe, kudos for your herculean and fair minded 145 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: analysis of what Trump said in response to Kristen Welker's 146 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: question over the weekend. But even given those numbers that 147 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about, don't you need to uphold the Constitution 148 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 1: of the United States? As president? And he says the 149 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: presidential three as follows. Eric says, I do solemnly swear 150 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: or for him that I will faithfully execute the office 151 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: of President of the United States, and I will, to 152 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the 153 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: Constitution of the United States. Not to put too fine 154 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: a point on it, I might suggest that having given 155 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: this oath twice, President Trump could have come up with 156 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: a better answer than I don't know. 157 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know if he was trolling. 158 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: It worked, I mean because it got lots of headlines, 159 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 2: because he could have so easily said I'll uphold the Constitution. 160 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: But as always, it needs to be interpreted as to 161 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: what the Constitution means. It's always been that way it 162 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 2: is today, and I think it means something different than 163 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 2: you do. 164 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: Eric, You're one hundred percent right. He could have come 165 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: up with a better explanation, But that's Trump. It makes 166 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: me insane because he does such a poor job of 167 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: explaining what he's talking about so frequently. And as a 168 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: guy who has criticized Trump. In fact, my last sentence 169 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 1: criticized Trump, he meant exactly what Jack was saying. He meant, 170 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: you are trying to, in the fashion of the Cloward 171 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: pivot strategy, which I was just talking about, trying to 172 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,720 Speaker 1: hold me to your conception of the rules to prevent 173 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: me from solving the problem you have caused. That is 174 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: what he meant in his answer to the evil and 175 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: disingenuous and horrific christin welker horrific. I'm being charitable. I 176 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: emerged chickens and I hacked them into pieces. 177 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 2: That's what I do. 178 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: And I'm a wardsmith. And so he's trying to say, no, 179 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: you're not going to trap me into agreeing with your 180 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: premise that I have to adhere to the Constitution in 181 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: the ways you have just set forth. But he's not 182 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: a good enough litigator of his own point of view 183 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: to express it like that, so he goes without, Oh, no, 184 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: we'll have to see, we'll follow the Supreme Court, which 185 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 1: is saying yes, but we've got great lawyers looking at it. 186 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: So that answer was only unsatisfactory if A you're a 187 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: stickler for Trump, you know, being a better communicator, or 188 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: B you're wilfully misinterpreting what he was saying. I believe that, amen, 189 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: hell ya. 190 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: So what do you think is going to happen with 191 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 2: the millions and millions of people that got in illegally 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: that the vast majority of people in this country including Democrats, 193 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: won't boot it out. They're gonna stay. 194 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: Most of them, A lot of them are. Yeah. I 195 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: think the question is how many can we get out 196 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: and buy what procedures? And I don't know the answer 197 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: to that question. That's one of the reasons that the 198 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: radicals use the strategy I was describing, because it works 199 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: real well. 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: How about the majority end up staying. 201 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: You end up, for instance, getting millions and millions and 202 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 1: millions of people in the city of Chicago where I 203 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 1: grew up, right outside the city, but dependent on the government. 204 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: You've overloaded the system. Now all of those people will 205 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: not eat or be able to medicate themselves. They don't 206 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: even feed their own damn children. How are you going 207 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: to reform the government now they've overwhelmed the system to 208 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: break it. It works. It's evil and insidious and non American, 209 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: but it works. So yeah, we're in a hell of 210 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: spot right now. What the answer is I don't know. 211 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 1: But Trump and company are working on it pretty hard. 212 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: That's interesting. This story is not over. 213 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I think they are doing great, if somewhat controversial work. 214 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: I hope they can stay on the right side of 215 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: the law. On the other hand, the whole tariffs on 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: movies is ludicrous. It's practically hilarious. It's impossible. I mean, 217 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: it's intellectual property with no set value. If I made 218 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,760 Speaker 1: a movie in Ireland today and Francis Corsese made a 219 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: movie in Ireland today, what are you gonna tear If 220 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: from the same nobody's gonna see my day movie, it'd 221 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: be garbage. Trust me, I don't know the first thing 222 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: about me. Well, I think you need a story anyway. 223 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: So it's just it's utterly unworkable. It's silly. Well, you'd 224 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 1: have to tax the profits after Oh lord, you know 225 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: nothing about Hollywood accounting. I could write, direct, star in, 226 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: and film a movie and own ninety eight percent of 227 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: it and the studio that owned two percent would find 228 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: a way to get all of the profits. That is 229 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: what makes Hollywood go round. So yeah, it's utterly unworkable. 230 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: The Alcatraz thing is hilarious. It's just trolling. 231 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one hundred percent trolling. Yeah. Yeah. 232 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: But the immigration stuff, they're doing the work that needs 233 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: to be done, and they're they're working against the real odds. 234 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: Tough hearts. 235 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, AI coming for a lot of people's jobs. As 236 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 2: we've talked about AI coming for our jobs. It looks 237 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: like got a good example of that, among other thing. 238 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: You stay here, do. 239 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 1: You guys say this? 240 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 6: Trump just shocked Hollywood by announcing on tariff on all 241 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 6: movies and TV shows made in foreign lands. And be 242 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 6: fun seeing the next Lord of the Rings filmed in 243 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 6: bay on New Jersey. 244 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 2: Hey, look at billb movies. We'll gonnoray got a mine merrita. 245 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,560 Speaker 2: So you mentioned this last segment, but the the one 246 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 2: hundred percent tariff on foreign movies because we're gonna make 247 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: a movie's American again. And John Voight, the one of 248 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: the few conservative Hollywood types, came out yes day and said, yeah, 249 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: he's gonna help lead the charge to make a movies 250 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: American again. This is all is this? Does everybody know 251 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 2: this is trolling? Or I mean, because this isn't gonna 252 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: do anything? 253 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: Not exactly Voight, by the way, who's eighty six years old. 254 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that he's almost like a bad age. Okay. 255 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. So the problem is there are a bunch of 256 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: foreign countries that offer huge tax incentives to make the 257 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: movies in their country instead of the United States. And 258 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: so Trump says, well, we'll see about that we'll put 259 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: huge tariffs on them, and the movie business is saying, like, 260 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,439 Speaker 1: thanks for your concern, but uh, how about tax incentives 261 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 1: here in the US wouldn't be easier, and so that's 262 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: probably the direction. 263 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, Well I get that different topic also 264 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 2: the entertainment world, where I. 265 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: Don't know why you'd offer tax incentives to movies and 266 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: not your local plumbing contractor. But we can discuss that 267 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,080 Speaker 1: another time. 268 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,080 Speaker 2: And that's a good point. Yesterday we were talking about 269 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 2: AI Ai me continuing after I die from this cold 270 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 2: that I've had for oh going on a month. No way, 271 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: you can just take my voice in all the many 272 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: words I've said over thirty years and AI can fashion 273 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 2: it together and whatever it needs to say. Well, that 274 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 2: is actually happening. So I was watching the NBA last night. 275 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: I'm a big NBA fan. Great first round games last night, 276 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: two upsets, fantastic stuff. But one of the most famous 277 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 2: announcers in all of modern NBA history, Jim Fagan of NBC. 278 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 2: He no longer is with us, but the NBA is 279 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: using clips of him to create voiceovers to continue to 280 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 2: have the voice of the nineties NBA today. Here's a clip. 281 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 7: Now, the NBA on NBC is bad. See you this 282 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 7: October for the NBA season tip off. 283 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: I want munch of that. I don't know if a 284 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: I had to play any role. They surely he said 285 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 2: that like eight million times so, but either way, that's 286 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: gonna be fairly common. 287 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I'm sure they could craft him saying 288 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers. Well, the Lakers aren't taking on anybody except 289 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: that the local golf course. But you know, whatever, the 290 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 1: Nuts take on the Nuggets Tuesday Night winner take all? 291 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: Sure you though? He's with God? 292 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: Now, I was thinking of the great Don Pardo of 293 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: Saturday Night Live, who did the voice of that for 294 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: like the first forty seven years of their fifty year 295 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 2: history or whatever. They could have him continue, and you know, 296 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 2: with whatever new hosts are on there, that'll probably become 297 00:15:56,320 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 2: a thing. Yeah, big deal in eliminate a handful of 298 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: announcer jobs. 299 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: But why not? Yeah, Well, they're talking in Movieland about 300 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: having no actors eventually and just a CGI generated AI 301 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: generated folks right actors on the screen. 302 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. We'll have to see it in action 303 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: to see if we like it or not. I don't know, 304 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 2: you're gonna tell us why Medicaid sucks at some point. 305 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: That's a bit of a oversimplification, but although it's accurate, 306 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: Yes it does. It's a scam. It's a giant scam. 307 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: It goes around wearing the clothes of this is just 308 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: a little government help for the poor to get the 309 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: medical care they need. Poor pregnant women so their babies 310 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: are healthy. That's all we're doing here. It's become this 311 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: giant like money trading scam where the states exploit this 312 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: you know, sub law of a sub rule of medicaid 313 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: and get this much money in exchange, and if they 314 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: use that money for this to get even more money, 315 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: and it turns out healthy, lazy, grown men are getting 316 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: way more than poor pregnant ladies. 317 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: Really, Oh, I don't like that story. So we got 318 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: a lot on the way to stay here. If you 319 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 2: missed a segment, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand. 320 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty. 321 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 3: But it sort of represents something that's both horrible and 322 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 3: beautiful and strong and miserable. Week It's got a lot 323 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 3: of it's got a lot of qualities that are interesting, 324 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 3: and I. 325 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: Think they make a point. 326 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: I think he's talking about me horrible, strong, miserable week 327 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 2: and everyone knows it. Thank you very much. How you 328 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: doing today, Good glad to hear it. 329 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: So there's a lot here trying to figure out exactly 330 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 1: how to corral all this information. I should have figured 331 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: this out earlier, but I just came across something really 332 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: interesting about how do you explain the current battle over 333 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: Medicaid reform? Maybe you'll just start here, a couple of folks. 334 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,640 Speaker 2: I want to make sure everybody understands what's going on here. 335 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 2: So when you turn sixty five, you get government healthcare. 336 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 2: At that point, you get medical care, medical care sixty five. 337 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 2: Medicaid is for the super poor, down and out right. 338 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, originally like one percent of the population, now much much, much, 339 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: much more. So let me just lay this out and 340 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: we'll stick with this through the weeks to come, in 341 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: a way that I promise won't be boring and wonky. 342 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: But it's such an enormous problem. The Wall Street Journal 343 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: is at the editorial board. I was talking about how 344 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 1: the Republicans are trying to reform Medicaid and they haven't 345 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: even rolled out a draft Medicaid bill, but Democrats and 346 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: the media allies are already pounded on them for snatching 347 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: healthcare from millions of poor people, which just goes to 348 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: show you, and you'll understand at the end of this 349 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: how incredibly dishonest politics is. And Republicans would be making 350 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:09,400 Speaker 1: a terrible blunder to let that intimidate them from fixing 351 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: the program, especially winding down free federal money for able 352 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: bodied men on Medicaid, which is a huge part of it. 353 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: So here's the one idea that they're working with, is 354 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: imposing sanity on the way federal Medicaid money flows to 355 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: the states. Here's the core dysfunction, writes the editorial Board. 356 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: The Feds pick up roughly fifty to seventy seven percent 357 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: of the tab, depending on the state, for pregnant women, 358 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: the disabled, and other low income populations, so between half 359 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: and three quarters. But the Feds pay ninety percent for 360 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 1: prime age adults, all eligible under the Affordable Care Act, 361 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: Obamacare's Medicaid expansion. You remember all the talk about the 362 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: Medicaid expansion and the money to states, and most of 363 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: us scratched our heads and weren't sure what to make 364 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: of it. And blue states said yes, and red states 365 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: said no. And we're accused of neglecting their citizens for saying. 366 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 2: That, and critics said this was just an attempt to 367 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: get universal health care going, which is what it looks like. 368 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so again, the feds paid ninety percent. If 369 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: I'm a thirty two year old male, smoking pot, living 370 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: in my parents' basement, in porn, watching porn, refusing to work, 371 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: collecting fake disability whatever. 372 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: Probably got a one man bun of some sort, probably 373 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: man bund. 374 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: They pay ninety percent for my medicaid expansion the federal 375 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: government does. The enhanced funding was a Democratic bribe debate 376 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: states into expanding their programs under Obamacare. That it also 377 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: contradicted the founding purpose of Medicaid, which was to help 378 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: the poor. Now you you can't find voters who think 379 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 1: the federal government should be giving their scarce healthy sources 380 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 1: to working age men over poor children and pregnant women. 381 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: Nobody wants that, But that's where we are because that's 382 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: what the perverse financing formula encourages. The states can grab 383 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: more federal dollars if they sign up more prime age adults. 384 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: But if you try to reform this, Chuck Schumer is 385 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: going to get on the steps of the Capitol and 386 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: with crocodile tears in his eyes, talk about how you're 387 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: trying to starve poor babies right. Twenty twenty two study 388 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: from the Mercada Center looked at the spending growth patterns 389 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: and states that took the expansion money compared with those 390 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,400 Speaker 1: that didn't. It found quote strong evidence in Medicaid expansion 391 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: states of a shift of financial resources away from certain 392 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: vulnerable and roly populations, the most notable being from low 393 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: income children. And the GOP can make a really strong 394 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: argument that fixing this bias in federal payments is shoring 395 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: up the program to serve the vulnerable much better. It's 396 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: not trying to take it away from them. It's the 397 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: opposite about it, opposite of that. But you know how 398 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: politics works. It's easy to scare people. It's way easier 399 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: to scare them than to explain to them. There are 400 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 1: ten states, including Florida and Texas, that have declined the 401 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: federal government's Medicaid expansion bait, but just ten, and some 402 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 1: are talking about part time work requirements if you're on medicaid, 403 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: to go after improper payments and call it good, but 404 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: you really have to restructure the entire thing. Obamacare was 405 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: everything its critics said it was. 406 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 2: But it's so galling, and I know it is for 407 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 2: a lot of you. It's just, you know, you get 408 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 2: up and you go to work in the idea that 409 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:44,119 Speaker 2: there's somebody out there suck it off your tax money 410 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,240 Speaker 2: with a smile on their face. 411 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: It's just so galling. Yeah, I know, I know. I've 412 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: got some more figures on on Medicaid's expansion, but I 413 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: can't find them. It has to do with watching your pot, 414 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: smoking your porn. No, no, no, no, we're past that part. 415 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: It has to do with, oh damn it. I thought 416 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 1: I had it handy. The extent to which Social Security 417 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: is self supporting, and how much it's grown beyond the 418 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: self supporting part. Self supporting meaning we're all kicking in money, right, 419 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: we all know that, right, But it does get subs 420 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: these from the federal government because we don't have enough 421 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: workers for the old people, blah blahlah. And then you 422 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: have Medicare, which has grown much much, much more in 423 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: relation to how self supporting it is. And then you 424 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: have Medicaid, which is exploded as a drag on the 425 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 1: federal budget way beyond any you know, supporting self supporting 426 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: nature it has. I will find those numbers for you 427 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: that they're astonishing. But if you're talking about entitlement reform, 428 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: you've got to start with Medicaid then move on to Medicare. 429 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 1: But that's a different kettle of fish. So just you know, 430 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: if there's a takeaway, enjoy the absolute dishonest demagoguery of 431 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,120 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party as they're claiming Republicans are trying to snatch, 432 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, infant formula out of the mouths of babes right. 433 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,360 Speaker 2: The whole health care thing, as we all know, it's 434 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: just so because I'm been going to the doctor a 435 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 2: fair amount being sick right now, and you know, I'm 436 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: gonna get a bill for next week. I'll get a 437 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 2: bill and it'll be eighty bucks or it'll be eight 438 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: hundred bucks. I don't have any idea, and I don't 439 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 2: have any idea if I actually have to pay it 440 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 2: or not. And maybe I'll pay it or maybe I 441 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 2: won't pay it, and hope it goes away, and maybe 442 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: it does go away, because sometimes they do, or maybe 443 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: then you get a letter saying we're gonna turn it 444 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 2: over to collections. Because you don't have any idea if 445 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 2: you're supposed to pay it or not. Just the whole 446 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: thing is so random and I never have any I 447 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 2: never know. 448 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's absolutely terrible. 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But uh, 479 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: it's amazing how many games come down to like the 480 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: last minute. I mean, you know, you watch for three 481 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: hours and then so many games it's just who can 482 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: do their thing in the last minute, like all the 483 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 2: time and it works. 484 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: I was a kid and my dad said to me, 485 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: there's no point in watching the first three quarters. 486 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: Shoe you have you have to enjoy the play of 487 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: it otherwise. It's right. Yeah, it's the reason I don't 488 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 2: get soccer because I don't. I've never played soccer. I 489 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: don't understand. I don't understand the play so because there's 490 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,919 Speaker 2: no scoring, I get nothing out of it. You have 491 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: enjoy the playing of the NBA game because if you 492 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: just want the result, well you might as well just 493 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: watch the last minute, like your dad said. 494 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: By the way, for the record, this will be a 495 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: minority opinion. But I am a courageous man, Jack, and 496 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: do not fear being in the minority. A playoff hockey 497 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 1: makes playoff basketball look like middle school chess tournaments. 498 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: Hockey. All right, about the hockey, Well, the few times 499 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 2: I've ever gotten into hockey, it is fantastic. Why is 500 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: that not caught on more? Is because it just doesn't 501 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: translate to television as well. 502 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: That's the half of it. The second half of it 503 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 1: is enough people don't understand like the rules of it, 504 00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: and the rules are really super easy to understand. Give 505 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: me five minutes, you'll enjoy hockey. Puck in the net, well, 506 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: that's a lot of one of the that's really the 507 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: key rule. Yes, there are some minor rules, though they 508 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: confuse people. Why'd they just whistle the puck? And why 509 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: are they stopping and going down to that end. Now 510 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: people get confused, they get discouraged, And yes, if you 511 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: don't know the game, it's a little harder to fire 512 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: on TV live in a stadium hockey aspect, akill. 513 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 2: I'm not a hockey fan, and I would say that 514 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: in person hockey is the best. It's absolutely fantastic, and 515 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: the crowds are fantastic too. All right, we got a 516 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 2: lot more of a I was uplate at the met gala. 517 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 2: That's why I've got this cough Medicashians and I wore 518 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: my statue of Liberty outfit. And there's really something more 519 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 2: in the way I stay here. 520 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 8: And A wave flipped a suspected human smuggling boat carrying 521 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 8: at least sixteen people off the California Coast. The boat 522 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 8: washing ashore around six point thirty this morning on Tory 523 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 8: Pine State Beach near San Diego. 524 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 9: Authority say at least three people were killed. Four more 525 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,440 Speaker 9: rushed to the hospital. First responders searching for at least 526 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 9: nine missing. The twelve foot vessel is called a Ponga boat. 527 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 9: It's designed for fishing, but commonly used by smugglers slipping 528 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 9: people past the border. 529 00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 2: WOW lot for ways to try to get people in 530 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 2: that's how badly people want to come into the United States. 531 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: Yet we have people marching in the streets about how 532 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: awful it is to be here. 533 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I suggest a change of location. 534 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: Perhaps I'm looking at our Twitter feed. A couple of 535 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: things I wanted to mention. I retweeted the great James 536 00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: Lindsay yesterday, who had a happy birthday, shout out to 537 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 2: Karl Marx with this funny meme. A quote from Karl Marx, 538 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: who I guess it was his birthday yesterday. A quote 539 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 2: from Karl Marx. I don't know if I'd ever heard 540 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: this before. My object in life is to dethrone God 541 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 2: and destroy capitalism. Lindsay's response was, don't care, get a job, 542 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 2: no kidding. 543 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: Speaking of memes and communists in California, this was one 544 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: of my favorite. The French have given up on high 545 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 1: speed rail in California. The French because there's too much bureaucracy. 546 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that should hurt, that should make us, that should 547 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: make us go. 548 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: They're gonna help build one in North Africa instead, saying 549 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: the region was quote less politically dysfunctional. That is a quote. 550 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 2: But my favorite thing I tweeted out over the weekend 551 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: was the footage. If you've seen the footage of the 552 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 2: humanoid robot losing its s there in the factory. Oh, 553 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 2: you gotta go to our twitter feed and look that out. 554 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 2: I tweeted, whoa, here's the future. A robot losing its ass. 555 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 2: But the thing starts flailing around with its arms and legs, 556 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,239 Speaker 2: kicking and throwing, and everybody's running away from it. I mean, 557 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 2: it would have taken your. 558 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: Head off, oh even hit you. 559 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: And some of the responses to the tweet were pretty 560 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 2: funny and things that you have said very, very many times. 561 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 2: It obviously was wanting to get our vital human juices, 562 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: among other things. Keep a baseball hat handy when working 563 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 2: with a robot. So this is the future. Thank god, 564 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 2: I'm old you deal with it. 565 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: Have a baseball hat, handy baseball bat. 566 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 2: Oh I'm sorry if I said hat. 567 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: Oh wow, it's flailing like a lunatic. 568 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it just lost its mind. 569 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: It's human sized and like built of hard plastic. Or 570 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: the scientists are trying desperately to corral it. 571 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: That robot's request was denied for getting their birthday off, 572 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: so it begins. Many people retweeted, which I agree. 573 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, kidding. 574 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and then this this was a common theme 575 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 2: now the debate. How about one hundred men versus a 576 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: berserk robot. 577 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Well, the thing seem to be restrained on some sort 578 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: of robot gallows, which helps but for now, but did 579 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,400 Speaker 1: the next time exactly? Yeah, if it was turned loose, 580 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: plays we'd all be chopped up like little things that 581 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: are chopped up. 582 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: And it kind of reminds me. Elon did an interview 583 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 2: the other day. I meant to play the audio of 584 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 2: it where he said, this year they're going to release 585 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 2: the fully self driving Tesla update where it can drive 586 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 2: you know, autonomous sealy without you in it or not. 587 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: And so we're getting closer and closer to a lot 588 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: of these cars, robots, whatever, completely being on their own. 589 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 2: And I just, I just I think there's gonna be 590 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: I don't understand how it gets through lawsuit America, That's 591 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: what I want to watch. I don't understand how you 592 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: get past the first time one of those robots swings 593 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 2: its arm, hits somebody in the head, and the company 594 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: gets sued for five billion dollars and so nobody can 595 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: even try it anymore. Right now, Are we gonna fix that? 596 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: So literally, the Tesla is self driving if you're not 597 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: in it, so it can come pick you up. 598 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: That's what Elon said the other day. I don't believe 599 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: it's gonna happen for a variety of reasons, including what 600 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: I mean, how can we have a world where kids 601 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 2: can't run on the playground if it ran yesterday because 602 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 2: of the liability. But we're gonna have, you know, fully 603 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 2: automated robots or cars driving around and the risks that 604 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: come with I just don't see how the math works 605 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: on that unless we redo our our tort system or something. 606 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is absolutely true. Does tech have good enough 607 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: lobbyists to redo our horrific tort system here in the country. 608 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, Jack. 609 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 9: If you'll take get that update on your Tesla, you 610 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 9: got to sit in the back seat and just wave 611 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 9: to people as you go down the highway, And. 612 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 2: Oh, I would love it if it worked. I just 613 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: don't think it's ready yet. The newer Tesla is like 614 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 2: my my twenty four Cyberbeast. They moved to sonar, a 615 00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 2: sonar like thing from just the video cameras that they 616 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 2: that I have on my twenty one Tesla, and I 617 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 2: don't know if it's a step forward or backwards. A 618 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: lot of people think it was a step backwards. It's 619 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 2: weird looking at the screen. It looks like the sort 620 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: of sonar thing you've seen in movies, with the wiggly 621 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 2: lines and everything like that. Yeah, it's supposed to be, Yeah, 622 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 2: supposed to be a step toward autonomous vehicles. 623 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: But it's just it's just never gonna work. 624 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 2: The first one crashes, you know, runs over an eight 625 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 2: year old girl in a crosswalk, and I just feel 626 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: like it's over and it'll never come back. 627 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. They have lobbyists, they have lawyers. Sir, 628 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: there have been I hate the specificity of your example. 629 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,360 Speaker 1: I get why you did it, but there have been 630 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 1: three hundred and four eight year old girls run over 631 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: by human beings this year. So this we're saving many, 632 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: many little girls. Sorry about this one. You know, they'll 633 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: they'll make that argument. 634 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: I think that's the most interesting angle of the whole thing. 635 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: I don't understand how it works in modern I just 636 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 2: read a great piece on Twitter, a breakdown of how 637 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 2: that whole thing works with juries and judges and corporations, 638 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 2: and then corporations have to go extra safe to try 639 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 2: to protect themselves and then you can't have this and 640 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 2: you can't have that, and the reactions. 641 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's such a mess, as we all know. Yeah, yeah, 642 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: it's one of the great challenges to our economy. If 643 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: we were to and this is you know, pipe dream, 644 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 1: and if we were to get serious tort reform in 645 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: this country, just make it much more reasonable like it 646 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: was I don't know thirty years ago. The explosion in 647 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: economic activity would stun you. It would take place in 648 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: ways and places you never would have imagined. 649 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 2: You can't have a real playground in your park because 650 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 2: of the liability, but we're gonna have cars and robots 651 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 2: going around on their own. It just I don't see 652 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: how it fits together. 653 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's probably worthwhile to mention once again. German 654 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,839 Speaker 1: insurance companies insisted to the German government moron's the Germans 655 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: next hour. By the way, they've got a crazy situation 656 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: going on politically right now, a couple of different crazy situations. 657 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: But their insurance companies actually went to the government and said, look, 658 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: you've made life so safe for German children. They have 659 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: no idea what risk is. They have no idea how 660 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: to figure out how much risk to take or how 661 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 1: to manage it, and so they're getting in all sorts 662 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 1: of crazy accidents and injuries because they're veal calves. You've 663 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,920 Speaker 1: got to let kids be kids. The insurance companies said that. 664 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 2: On the other hand, if I'm working at some sort 665 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 2: of factory and my boss says, we got this new robot. Robot, 666 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 2: it's fantastic and it swings its arm and takes my 667 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 2: eye out, a little compensation for it? 668 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, granted, yeah, I Removing robots is very different 669 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,839 Speaker 1: from overleas safe playgrounds. Jack. 670 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 2: You can't just say, well, robots being robots, what are 671 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 2: you gonna do if Frank will take you? Yeah, well, 672 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 2: we'll see, and maybe that's the future. We'll be surrounded 673 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 2: by flailing robots losing their s. Good stuff next hour. 674 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,439 Speaker 1: If you can't hang around, grab it via podcast later 675 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: on Armstrong and Getty on demand. You can subscribe or 676 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 1: follow wherever you like to get podcasts Armstrong and Getty