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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome into Wednesday edition of Texans All

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Speaker 1: Acts says. I'm your host, John Harris, football analyst, sidline reporter.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna hear from GM Nick Kissaria. We're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: from Miami Dolphins analysts Extraordinariy Joe Rose with our men

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Speaker 1: behind the mic segment. We'll also have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of Desmond King on a deep slant. Desmond deep deep slant.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of nice. That's that's a little a little

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Speaker 1: ration for you. And that voice you here is Mark Vanomir,

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Speaker 1: the voice of the Texans. Mark. Good evening. How are you, Johnny?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. How are you doing well? There are

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Speaker 1: some big things going on in the uh the football

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Speaker 1: sphere as we really get ready for Thanksgiving. Sources report

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Speaker 1: that Kyle Allen will be starting on Sunday. I like

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Speaker 1: to do this with you. I usually have more than

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Speaker 1: just this, but I ask you your gut reaction, just

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Speaker 1: initial gut reaction to hearing that from sources. It's not

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Speaker 1: being reported, doesn't have to be reported until but it

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Speaker 1: sounds like you're reporting when you say sources, Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not the source. Mike Garre follow tweeted around lunchtime ish

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Speaker 1: that Kyle Allen would be stepping into the starting role.

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Speaker 1: Mark your gut reaction to that tweet and news. I

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Speaker 1: totally get it. Davis Mills hasn't been playing well, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: What did we always say? This is what I've always

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Speaker 1: said to everybody throughout the entire offseason. It was a

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Speaker 1: situation where down the stretch he played better. Last year,

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Speaker 1: the numbers were good and the arrow was pointing up.

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Speaker 1: As John Capers would say, what changed is the arrows

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Speaker 1: not pointing up anymore with these numbers, right, They're not

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Speaker 1: performing offensively. The quarterbacks a huge part of it. They

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Speaker 1: need to get somebody else in there to see exactly

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Speaker 1: what the situation is with a Kyle Allen who's played

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Speaker 1: in this league and he's won some games, Johnny, Like,

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Speaker 1: people look at his numbers and write them off completely.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna have a resurrection like Taylor

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Speaker 1: Honekey or something like that, but you never know, and

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Speaker 1: let's just see what the offense looks like with Kyle

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Speaker 1: Allen overall, though, my reaction is a bit of sadness

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Speaker 1: here because I want to see it work out with Mills.

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Speaker 1: I think it's in the best interest of the organization

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Speaker 1: if Mills plays great, and then you don't have to

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Speaker 1: draft a quarterback in the offseason. But you are where

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Speaker 1: you are and you have to take things one week

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Speaker 1: at a time, and I think it's in the best

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Speaker 1: interest of the team to make this move, presuming that's

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Speaker 1: what's going to happen. And I would imagine that's what's

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Speaker 1: going to happen, because otherwise they would come out and

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Speaker 1: say Mills as the guy. Yeah, you're right, And you

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Speaker 1: know last year at Miami this happened for the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 1: And I've told this story before. I was down on

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Speaker 1: the sidelines and I was doing getting ready to do

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Speaker 1: my hit with Sean and Seth back on the pregame show.

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Speaker 1: And as I'm down on the field and I look

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Speaker 1: out there, I see TWA and he looks like he's

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Speaker 1: walking up and down the field with that I assumed

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Speaker 1: as a coach, and I'm like, okay, you know two

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Speaker 1: is getting ready. We're see two here. Here we go

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Speaker 1: facing another first round quarterback. That's what twenty twenty one's

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Speaker 1: theme was. We faced first round quarterbacks all over the place,

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden about ninety minutes before

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Speaker 1: conversation and all that unfold too. Was not starting. He

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Speaker 1: got benched. He's made the second quarterback, which means he

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Speaker 1: could play because one injured. One play where Jacoby Brisset's injured,

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Speaker 1: he's gone right back in the game. So it was clear.

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Speaker 1: He was benched. The next week against buff Baltimore. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember how he got on the field, but he

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Speaker 1: job back. He suffered an offseason where everybody's talking about

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Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson trade rumors, and he just put his

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Speaker 1: he snatched that starting job and he never gave it back.

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Speaker 1: So we've seen it before. Quarterbacks lose an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be starting quarterback. Fits he happened here in twenty fourteen. Yep,

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Speaker 1: he had what eight games was right before the bye

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Speaker 1: Bill Brian said, no, we're going Ryan Mallett. Now it

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Speaker 1: goes in maut gets hurt against Cincinnati. He's actually hurt

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Speaker 1: before that, but he goes in place through the hurt,

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Speaker 1: doesn't play well, go back to fitz he instead of

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Speaker 1: pouting or you know, getting in his feelings. So, oh,

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Speaker 1: you're only going back to me because he's hurt. Right,

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick goes out there and throw six tds against the

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Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. That's how you return Davis Mills last year,

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Speaker 1: after he was put on a bench with Tyrod Taylor

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Speaker 1: Tyrod struggled. They put Davis back in and then you

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Speaker 1: saw a different Davis Mills for the rest of the year.

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Speaker 1: To that end, You and I are were both on

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Speaker 1: record as saying when we were asked about Davis Mills, Yes,

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Speaker 1: He's earned that right to start. And I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have just seeing things on the twitters

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Speaker 1: they're just kind of going off, and I'm like, look,

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Speaker 1: what did you want the solution to be going in

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Speaker 1: some promise. The draft class in twenty twenty two was

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Speaker 1: not very good. The trades that were made for Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: How's that going for Denver? Yeah, all those things that

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Speaker 1: want at that particular point. You had to let it

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Speaker 1: everything play out. And I don't know that it's completely

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Speaker 1: all the way played out, right, But it's time to

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Speaker 1: make a change. Yeah, there's nobody saying that this is

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Speaker 1: over for him. Well, nobody's saying anything as a matter

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Speaker 1: of fact. But last year's draft you mentioned it, Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett gets drafted in the first round. Is he going

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Speaker 1: to be the guy for Pittsburgh? I don't know. The

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Speaker 1: short range returns are not great, but they're not horribly.

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Speaker 1: They will see obviously, Malik Willis, that's a project for Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: So last year's draft you understand it. Hey, we got

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Speaker 1: a third rounder last year, meaning twenty twenty one, and

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Speaker 1: he's playing pretty well for us down to stretch. Let's

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Speaker 1: give him a shot, see if it improves. The situation

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Speaker 1: did not improve. It went backwards, and that's what you're

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Speaker 1: thought it would keep getting better or at least stay

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Speaker 1: because I always thought a running game would make all

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Speaker 1: more production. But you haven't. And no one's saying it's

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Speaker 1: over either. I just said that, didn't I yeah, But

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Speaker 1: no one's saying it's over. Johnny, I'm not saying it's over.

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Speaker 1: But let's see what Kyle Allen can do for this

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Speaker 1: football team. Kyle Allen's got experience. We saw Kyle Allen

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Speaker 1: beat the Texans here with the Carolina Panthers. Looked pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He's looked good at times in his career. He's been

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Speaker 1: He gets the ball out quick. One thing we noticed

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Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, maybe he can make some hey that way.

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Speaker 1: And look, everyone's worried about, oh, are you gonna blow

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Speaker 1: the number one pick in the draft? Really, are you

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Speaker 1: We should have been starting Kyle Allen earlier, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just give it a shot. See what happens. You could

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Speaker 1: win a couple of games and probably still get the

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Speaker 1: number one pick. Yeah, you still have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of margin frere from that perspective, that's the right way

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Speaker 1: which is an error in this case. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: margin ver is just the phraseology I guess to use

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Speaker 1: I was actually watching walking in the car today, excided

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Speaker 1: dom mantole over at Raging Cage and so shout out

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Speaker 1: the dom. But I was driving over there and I

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Speaker 1: he gets rid of the ball quickly, and I immediately

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Speaker 1: thought like a fan for like two seconds. Well, when

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Speaker 1: you have to throw it three or four yards, right,

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Speaker 1: You could ultimately I mean you're max protecking and you're

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that when you get rid of the ball quickly,

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Speaker 1: it means you're throwing everything short. It could mean you're

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Speaker 1: throwing it deep. A bunch of TJ I remember that.

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Speaker 1: which I think would help Kyle Allen too. So you

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Speaker 1: And this is Miami defense that's gotten better and better

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Speaker 1: in a seventeen to nine game. So you got an opportunity.

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Speaker 1: This front for Miami is not as good. I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: it's an athletic front. It's an athletic front. They can move.

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Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, Zack Syler, and ray Kuan Davis. They can move,

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Speaker 1: but they're not the just absolute oxen that they've been

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Speaker 1: facing lately Oxen. Yeah, and you've got these two guys

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Speaker 1: handle some of the edge. Now, those guys in the

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Speaker 1: edge are pretty good from Miami, very very good. However,

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Speaker 1: they've seen Bradley Chubber ready this year. Yeah, they've already

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Speaker 1: second meeting. It's like a divisional game. All those things

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Speaker 1: come up faster, the ball has to be there has

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Speaker 1: to be quicker decisions made. And you say this all

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Speaker 1: the time, what's the phrase of you all boats rids

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Speaker 1: with the tie? Well, if Kyle Allen brings his game

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Speaker 1: to bring its game up to particular level, and that's

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Speaker 1: what's got to happen. Look, I can't evaluate Davis Mills

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Speaker 1: of interceptions thrown this year, eleven that leads the NFL.

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Speaker 1: to have you on with us. How many Thanksgiving game

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Speaker 1: from a scheduling standpoint what makes the most sense. From

426
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Speaker 1: a team standpoint, So ultimately you want to prepare for

427
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Speaker 1: the game. Just make sure that you know we're ready

428
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Speaker 1: to go on Sunday. Some teams are playing on Thursday,

429
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Speaker 1: so you know we've gone through that kind of Thursday

430
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Speaker 1: night preparation with that entails. But you know, when you

431
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,879
Speaker 1: get around the holidays, you're trying to be conscious of

432
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,880
Speaker 1: kind of work family balance. It's important to take those

433
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,400
Speaker 1: factors in consideration and just try to make the decisions

434
00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 1: you know that you feel are best for everybody involved.

435
00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,040
Speaker 1: Nick tough afternoon against Watchington. Obviously, we're there's some positives

436
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,800
Speaker 1: that you took out of the game against Washington. I

437
00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: know there were a few negatives and those have been

438
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: pounded into everybody's head, but we're there's some positives that

439
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: you're able to take out of that performance. Yeah, I

440
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: think defensively, some of the things that have shown up

441
00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 1: being able to play. It's a competitively in the red

442
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: area at different points, and I think that's been pretty consistent.

443
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: You know, when we look from the at the beginning

444
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Speaker 1: of the season until now, we've actually done a decent

445
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Speaker 1: job in the red area, you know, defensively, so so Man,

446
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 1: that showed up again in the game, kind of kept

447
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: us in the game there a little bit. Able to

448
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Speaker 1: make a few plays in a kicking game kind that

449
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Speaker 1: are drive start. Some of the things that we've done

450
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,479
Speaker 1: and covers units of you know, been pretty consistent from

451
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year. So just collectively we just

452
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of in spots, so we just have to

453
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 1: take those cumulatively and put them all together and try

454
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,400
Speaker 1: to get to the finish line there. Yeah, Will Redman

455
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: hard to believe that's the first name we're gonna bring

456
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Speaker 1: up today of a Texans player, but he made a

457
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: play on special teams and I think the fans were saying,

458
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 1: who's that He just got lifted up, makes a play, Hey,

459
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Yeah, Will is a pretty experienced player. He's

460
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: been the lead for a handful of years now. You know,

461
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: he was a corner coming out of college in Mississippi State,

462
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Speaker 1: and you had some injuries at different points of his career.

463
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Speaker 1: I was in training camp with Indianapolis. He's been in

464
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Speaker 1: some different systems and at different points he's been fairly

465
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Speaker 1: productive in the kicking game. So there was an opportunity

466
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: for us just giving kind of our corner situation, and

467
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: we're always looking at what are our options going into

468
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Speaker 1: the game, you know, what makes the most sense relative

469
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Speaker 1: to getting the players to the game that can potentially

470
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Speaker 1: help us. So we elevated him, We elevated Jakobe Francis,

471
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Speaker 1: him from the practice squad, and it Will went out

472
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Speaker 1: there and gave us some plays in the kicking game.

473
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Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes kind of week to week. Nick,

474
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Speaker 1: how does the player acquisition process go kind of at

475
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Speaker 1: this point of the year because you've picked up you know, Benjamin,

476
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: you picked up Amari Rodgers. You used being the first

477
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Speaker 1: claim on the waiver wire to be able to do that.

478
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Speaker 1: But how's the player acquisition process kind of go at

479
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: this point in the year. Yeah, it's a good question, John,

480
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: There's nothing specific. I think you kind of look at

481
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Speaker 1: each individual player, look at the situation, and just make

482
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: a decision that you feel makes the most sense, I

483
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 1: would say in those particular situations, those are two young

484
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 1: players that have varying degrees of experience. For whatever reason,

485
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 1: it didn't work out with their respective teams. So kind

486
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: of look at our team, kind of look at maybe

487
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 1: where we are, if there's an opportunity to add a

488
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 1: player that we have some degree of affinity or conviction for,

489
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 1: and whether or not how big or small the role

490
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 1: is going to be that you have to be determined.

491
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Speaker 1: But we've talked about this. You're just trying to find

492
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Speaker 1: players that maybe you have some traits and characteristics that

493
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Speaker 1: you like and find a way to get them in

494
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Speaker 1: your program. So, whether it's a waiver wire or claim,

495
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: whether it's put them on a practice squad, I would

496
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: say during a year, for the most part, it's more

497
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: on a need based situation where you bring players in.

498
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 1: I would say will situation, there was a little bit

499
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Speaker 1: more of a need. Going back to what happened previously,

500
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Speaker 1: I would say in Amari an ENO's situation, I wouldn't

501
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Speaker 1: say there's necessarily a need. It's more of an opportunity

502
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: to add a young player that has some traits that

503
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Speaker 1: maybe you think could fit your program fairly well along

504
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 1: those lines, Nick, going back, you talk about two young players,

505
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 1: so obviously haven't been in the league all that long.

506
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: So in a situation like that, do you touch base

507
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: with the college scout that may have had that particular

508
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: player in the area and go back and what that

509
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,600
Speaker 1: particular person thought, what you remember about that player. How

510
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 1: much does that get brought into players like you know,

511
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: Amar coming here. Yeah, it's all the above. That's where

512
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Speaker 1: you utilize the information that you have accumulated over the

513
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: course of time. So those two players are fairly recent

514
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: entrance into the draft, so we've done a lot of

515
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Speaker 1: work on them. So the way that our database is

516
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: set up so you kind of have each player has

517
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Speaker 1: their own profile, and initially when you go in there,

518
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 1: it's kind of more representative of what's going on from

519
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: a pro standpoint. So if we have a pro report,

520
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: some of their statistical production, some of their background, and

521
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 1: then you can click on it and it takes you

522
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,440
Speaker 1: right to the college information, so we can go look

523
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: at their football character, their background, their makeup, their football intelligence,

524
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: what did our scouts think, what were our grades on

525
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 1: that player? What was our bottom line? And then really

526
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, when there's players that

527
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: show up on a waiver wire, we'll have dialogue and

528
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: discussion and internally departmentally and whether or not, Okay, this

529
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: is a player worth consider and here are the reasons why.

530
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: And there's a mult two to people that are involved

531
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Speaker 1: in that, and we take the information and then ultimately

532
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 1: it kind of get to a resolution and say whether

533
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: or not, all right, this is somebody we're interested in.

534
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:18,400
Speaker 1: Here are the reasons why. And everybody has an opinion,

535
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 1: so their recommendation is certainly welcomed and valued. So now

536
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: I take that information kind of presented to Lovey and

537
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: have a discussion about it. Here, here's what we're thinking. Here,

538
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: here's the situation. And he's very receptive to it. And

539
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: sometimes the answer is Okay, we're gonna go ahead with it.

540
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: Sometimes it doesn't work out the way that we hope,

541
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: but utilize all the information and resources we have in

542
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: the building. So it's really it's a collective team effort.

543
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: So everybody that was involved in everybody at some point

544
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: he's going to be involved in that process. Nick, what

545
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: does he know bring to the mix. He's had some

546
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: nice moments this year so far. Yeah, he was kind

547
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 1: of the second runner. Looks like they've kind of gone

548
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: more towards James Connor, so kind of made more of

549
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: a commitment to him. Last year it was Connor and Edmund,

550
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 1: so you know, it didn't play as much, but going

551
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: back to his time at Arizona State was fairly productive

552
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: over a two year period of time. He's five eight,

553
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 1: two hundred pounds, so let's say a little bit more

554
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: of a change of pace back. He's got good quickness,

555
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: he's got good hands. He catches the ball fairly well.

556
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: So we'll see how it goes again regardless, not really

557
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: sure how bigger or small the role is going to be.

558
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 1: Those players just got here last week, practice once or twice,

559
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: so I think we'll have a better opportunity maybe evaluate

560
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: them this week and then, really what you have to

561
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,439
Speaker 1: do any new player once you get him in your building,

562
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: you're just kind of saying, all right, what can we

563
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: get them ready to play in the game. Is there

564
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: a big enough role? Because you're not really putting in

565
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: the whole offense, it's very specific to the team that

566
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: you're playing. So we understand they've missed a lot of time.

567
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 1: They weren't here in training camp. They really weren't here

568
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: for the foundation, so you try to get him caught

569
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 1: up to speed as best as possible and get him

570
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: in a position if they have to go out there

571
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: and play that they have confidence on what they're doing.

572
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: Maari Rodgers comes in, Nick, he's built differently if he doesn't.

573
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: I mean, he's five ten, but he's like two fifteen,

574
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: so he's solid. So there's that. But where in the

575
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: football character part, does he's a coach's kid come into

576
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 1: play if at all? Yeah, he was very highly thought of.

577
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,679
Speaker 1: You go back to Clemson and kind of you know,

578
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: the impact that he had on the program. So all

579
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: those things factor into a john a player's profile. You

580
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 1: kind of take everything in. Everybody kind of has their

581
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: own i would say characteristics, and each player is going

582
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: to be a little bit different. So it's a part

583
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: of the equation. It's not the overriding factor, but it's

584
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,919
Speaker 1: certainly a part of it and speaks to maybe some

585
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: of his background and some of how he was taught

586
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: and how he was trained. So me being a coach's kid,

587
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: does that raise your thought about be from now on? Absolutely,

588
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: I'll take what i can get. Nick Evaluating quarterback the

589
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 1: passing game, so much goes into it. Can you talk

590
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: about what goes into it? Because it's an ensemble thing,

591
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 1: It's not just one guy throwing the football. There are

592
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 1: a lot of things that need to happen to make

593
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 1: things work effectively. Yeah, there's a lot of parts that

594
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: are involved. So let's say it starts with this defense.

595
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: How they play and what are the things that we

596
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,479
Speaker 1: have to do? What are certain areas that we want

597
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 1: to attack. There's a timing element that's involved, there's a

598
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: protection element that's involved. There's pre snap information that you

599
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: have to take place, so and then there's actually taking

600
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: a snap and throwing the ball and then reacting and

601
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: you know what are its two seconds? Just watching a

602
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: little bit of the Monday night game, you know last

603
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,719
Speaker 1: night or the other night, I mean Colt McCoy had

604
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: the ball of his hands in like two seconds or less.

605
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: So I mean there's a lot that you have to

606
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: process in a short period of time and then make

607
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 1: a quick decision. So there's a merit of factors that

608
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: go into it. There's a timing, there's an execution element,

609
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: and there's a preparation element. So in each week, it

610
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: could be a potential a little bit different based on

611
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: what the opposing team is going to do. Miami is

612
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 1: a little different than what you remember when you face

613
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: them twice a year in New England. We know about two,

614
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: we know about Tyreek, we know about Jaylen Wile. They

615
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: get talked about all the time. There's a really talented

616
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: football team, Nick, what do you see it's getting the

617
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: scouting report of the Dolphins. Yeah, they've done a really

618
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: good job. Chris has done a good job, you know,

619
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: putting the team together. Coach McDaniel's first year, I know

620
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: he was here in Houston for a period of time.

621
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: So I think the one thing that stands out offensively

622
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: is you mentioned that the three players that I would

623
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: say are the key to that. But they're a big,

624
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: twenty one personnel team, which it's almost counterintuitive you think

625
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: of his big play, explosive offense, but they're in twenty

626
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: one personnel as much as any team in the league.

627
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: So Ingold has a really big role. I would say

628
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: in sort of non traditional positions or slots. He's in

629
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: the backfield, he's underline the scrimmage, they use motion. I

630
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: would say in the top five. I mean they're third

631
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: or most highest motioning team in the league. So a

632
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 1: lot of that is to displace the defense, a lot

633
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: of that is to create angles. I think Mike does

634
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: a really good job offensively putting the players in a

635
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: position to go out there and executing. And the quarterbacks

636
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: played at a really high level, so good skill players. Offensively,

637
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: They've made some changes of modifications here a little bit

638
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: running back, but both backs that they have on the roster,

639
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: Mike has a background with from San Francisco. So they

640
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: trade Wilson. I mean, they signed Edmonds in the offseason,

641
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: and as part of the Chub trade and Chub acquisition,

642
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: they traded Edmonds and then they brought Wilson in in

643
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 1: a separate trade. So there's two running backs that really

644
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 1: understand the eschematics of what they're trying to do offensively.

645
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: But Ingolds got a really good role in terms of

646
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: what they're doing. They've got good production from the tight end.

647
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: So offensively, they present a lot of challenges both horizontally

648
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: and vertically with the big plays they can create, you know,

649
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: on that phase of the ball. And then defensively, I'd

650
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: say Josh has done a good job of you know,

651
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: he came down there with Brian Flores. So I'd say

652
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: some of the elements that you know, we had New

653
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 1: England have carried over to the defense, and Josh has

654
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: done a good job of kind of maybe simplifying some things.

655
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: Maybe we're doing a little bit less relative to what

656
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: they were doing previous years. But Josh is a secondary coach,

657
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: so it's kind of top down. So the kind of

658
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: the way they kind of handle their coverages and put

659
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: the defense together is through that lens. And they're kind

660
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: of three for two. They're on the edge now with Chubbs.

661
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 1: They got chub they got Ingram and Jalen Phillips has

662
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: done a really good job. So and they play have

663
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: three i would say, big strong, physical guys on the

664
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: interior of a defensive line of Wilkins, Davis and Siler,

665
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: who's kind of an improving player. They're kind of a

666
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: nickel team for the most part. They're a nickel team, however,

667
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: they get to it so like sometimes it's one inside linebacker,

668
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: sometimes it's two inside linebackers. But you know, Houston's own

669
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: Landon Roberts has done a good job there. You know,

670
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: a Mike linebacker and then a secondary probably one of

671
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: the better ball hawking players in the league. And Xavian Howard.

672
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody's gotten his hands on more balls, you know,

673
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: than him over the last however many years. And Holland's

674
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: a really good young player. They're at safety, so they

675
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: present different types of challenges defensively, but they're explosive as

676
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: a team and in a kicking game. And Danny Crossman

677
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: who's trained by Scott O'Brien, who's one of the best

678
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: special teams coaches kind of in the history of football.

679
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: So Danny is a really good coach. So they're a well,

680
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: I would say overall, they're a very you know, they're

681
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: a good football team top to bottom. They do a

682
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: lot of things well, which is why their record is

683
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, seven and three or whatever is at this point,

684
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: Nick with two, is this another tale of hey, you

685
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: never know, a little time, little experience coaching into the

686
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: mix and look at him now, Yeah, it's all the above. Um,

687
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: he's had to deal with some things for the first

688
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 1: couple of years. Um, whether it's injury or whether it's performance. Again,

689
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: I think Mike's done a really good job of kind

690
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: of accentuating the things that he does well. The one

691
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: thing too, has always been he's always been very accurate

692
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: with the football, going back to Alabama, so his accuracy,

693
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: his ball placement, his timing, and the way he gets

694
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: rid of the ball has always been really really good.

695
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: He's a smart guy and he's I think love He

696
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: mentioned this the other day. He's not a running quarterback,

697
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: but he has a certain level of a loosidness to

698
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: him where he can kind of getting himself out of something.

699
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: So the design of the offense is really good. They

700
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: put a lot of stress on the defense, and you know,

701
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: once the ball has gone, then you know you're chasing

702
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: these guys all over the field. I mean, they're two

703
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: of the fastest receivers collectively in the league. So we

704
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,239
Speaker 1: better get ready to run because we're gonna be doing

705
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: a lot of running on Sunday. And he's coaches kid.

706
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Nicky said something as you're talking about the Dolphins that

707
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: that struck me because I saw Washington do this too,

708
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: and I think perception when you say you know they're

709
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: nickel team. That was interesting that Washington and you said

710
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: whether they have one linebacker or they have two linebackers there,

711
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: they're nickel team in Washington. Would play five guys in

712
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: the front and play one linebacker there, and then there's

713
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: Bobby McKinney. You think, okay, well we're gonna run. But

714
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: then they got five guys up front. How does Miami

715
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 1: kind of truth that? Are they very similar in that

716
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: way that they could play five guys up front with

717
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: one linebacker and then make it really tough to run

718
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,719
Speaker 1: because everybody basically is covered up from Yeah, I'd say

719
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: it's an interesting observation. I'd say it's a trend that

720
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: you're starting to see maybe a little bit more when

721
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: you look at even the last few teams that we played.

722
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: Philadelphia utilize this, Miami does it, Washington does it. So

723
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: you're there's base defense, but I wouldn't say there's too

724
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 1: many teams that play true bass defense. I mean there's

725
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 1: a few teams that do it, so mostly it's a

726
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: nickel team. And then just really how you structure the front,

727
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 1: so if you have five down, whether it's three defensive

728
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: tackles or three defensive linement, two outside linebackers, one linebacker,

729
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: then a kind of safety in the box. I mean

730
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: it was something that you know, Coach Belichick started actually

731
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: hover many years ago. We were doing with Patrick Chung,

732
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: so kind of putting five players on the line of scrimmage,

733
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: having a linebacker, and then bringing an extra guy down

734
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: in a box. So could be a linebacker, it could

735
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 1: be a safety, and I'd say Chung kind of handle

736
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: that role, probably as good as anybody in the league

737
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: at that time. So I think you're seeing it a

738
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: little bit more so. I think what it does allows

739
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: teams to a kind of handle a running game. So

740
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: you have five guys that can handle a running game,

741
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: but also gives you maybe an extra defensive back a

742
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: little bit more speed on the field so that you

743
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: can deal with some of the things that the offenses

744
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: are trying to stress, you know, from their end. So

745
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: to run that, do you need a Chung or ideally

746
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: you probably do write a player of that caliber. Yeah,

747
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: not necessarily, Mark. You just need somebody that has enough

748
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: playing strength, that has enough toughness that can handle some

749
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 1: of the run fits. Because when that player is down

750
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 1: in a box, whether it's McCain, whether it's Cam Curl,

751
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: whether it's Brandon Jones, when you look at the dog,

752
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 1: I know he's on IR But Jones to Eric Rowe

753
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,360
Speaker 1: that players in the box he's gonna have to deal

754
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: with runfource elements. So whether that's dealing with a tight end,

755
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: dealing with a tackle, or a guard climbing up to him,

756
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, on a duo on a douce block, or

757
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,440
Speaker 1: whatever it may be in a double team block. But

758
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: you have to have enough playing strength and instinctiveness to

759
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: handle sort of all that garbage around you. So it's

760
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: not necessarily a certain type of player. Could be a

761
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: couple different types of guys, but they have to be

762
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,319
Speaker 1: able to handle some of the elements of playing close

763
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: to the line of scrimmage, which if you're taking a

764
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: defensive back a lot of times he's playing removed from

765
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, now you're playing him four or

766
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 1: five yards from the line of scrimmage. It's just a

767
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Speaker 1: different game. So some players can handle that better than others.

768
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: But then it's at a better matchup for us against

769
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 1: a tight end versus having a linebacker in there if

770
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: you think you have a more athletic linebacker. So it's

771
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: kind of cat and mouse game here a little bit,

772
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: and you just got to figure out again when you

773
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: look at Buffalo, a guy like Milano, you know, it's

774
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: kind of like, he's a linebacker, but he was a

775
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 1: former safety, right, But he's fast, he's tough, he has

776
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: some of the same elements. So it really comes down

777
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: to philosophically, what are you doing on defense? What are

778
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: you asking that player to do? And how does he

779
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: fit within the construct of what you're doing defensively? Yah,

780
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: because we're talking about the dolphin. As you mentioned a

781
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 1: number of names, as you said them, I'm like, for

782
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: a patriot, patriot Mente Lander, Roberts, Eric Brow, when in

783
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: a situation like this where you have a number of

784
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 1: different players that you've been around for a number of years,

785
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: how does that factor into the week's preparation for that

786
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: particular team. Knowing those individuals as intimately as you do,

787
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Sure you have a little bit background from whatever your

788
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: time with those players was, but ultimately what they're doing

789
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: in this system, that who in the team that they're

790
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,479
Speaker 1: playing for is ultimately the most important. How that team

791
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: uses those players. I mean two players we actually haven't

792
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: even talked about, or probably two of our best players

793
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: in the kicking game, you know, justin Bethel and keyon Crossing.

794
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: You know who we had New England, who was here

795
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: in Houston, but they put a lot of stress on

796
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: the coverage in Bethel's has been as productive kicking game

797
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: players double digit tackles, I want to say, for as

798
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: long as he's been in the league for the same

799
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: number of years. So he's tough, he's fast, he's instinctive,

800
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: and Keyon is as fast a player that they have

801
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: on their team. So they put pose a lot of

802
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: challenges in those areas. So the fact that we have

803
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: a background, I have a background with them, it's not

804
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: as relevant other than okay, you have some experience, maybe

805
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: maybe what some of their strengths are, well, maybe they

806
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: struggle with, but ultimately it's how the team that they're

807
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: currently with, how they're being deployed, and how they're being used.

808
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: Like how much World Cup are you watching? It's funny,

809
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody about this yesterday. I probably

810
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: won't see one look of it. Yeah, so it's just

811
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: not my cup of tea. So I'll stick that to

812
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,360
Speaker 1: you soccer experts. Well, yeah, not here. But if it

813
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: were on the normal time June July kind of thing,

814
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 1: that time window, would you be watching some of it? Unlikely?

815
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: My My middle daughter plays soccer, so I've actually come

816
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 1: to enjoy watching her play. Now, I don't understand soccer,

817
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: so that's probably a big part of it. So just

818
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 1: understanding the very skilled athletes, you know, some of the

819
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: things that they're able to do quite frankly, I couldn't

820
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: even come close to doing, so have respect for that.

821
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: I just have never taken it in. Soccer wasn't really

822
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: my thing growing up, so it's very it wasn't my

823
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: thing either. They're in the red zone. I love it.

824
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: Then the red zone a lot. They don't score much.

825
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: That's tough, Nickles a lot for joining us. Happy Thanksgiving,

826
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Happy Thanksgiving and happy thanks Giving from me

827
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: to all of yours. Hopefully you guys are all safe

828
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: and sound this holiday season and able to share it

829
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: with friends and family. That's what it's all about. But

830
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: you gotta know football, it's pretty important to a lot

831
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: of people, and so I know a lot of people

832
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: get thanks for football. I do. I certainly do. It's

833
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: been a integral thing in my family, no doubt about that.

834
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Speaker 1: All Right, we get back, we go around the NFL,

835
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: hit a couple of news items and look at the

836
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: injury report. Not bad for the Texans. Finally, so we'll

837
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Speaker 1: do that next right here at Texas All Access. What's up, everybody,

838
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: Welcome back to wednesday issue of Texas All Access. Glad

839
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Speaker 1: you were here with me. I am John Harris, football analysts,

840
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, and let's go around

841
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But let's start right here in Houston's

842
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 1: we check out the injury report. Luckily, bo wow, I

843
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: mean wow, Luckily, this thing is not massive. However, there

844
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: is one one big one on here that we're still

845
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: hopefully going to get going in the right direction. As

846
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: Derek Stingley, he did not participate in Wednesday's practice, deal

847
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: with the hamstring Weeks he was out, John Weeks deal

848
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: with personal issue, but full participants, Moleek Collins, Devil Hewitt.

849
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: That's it on the injury report. Wow. For the Dolphins,

850
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram got a vet rest day. Thomas Morriston, the

851
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: punter is ill and Rohey most start dealing with knee issue.

852
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: So we'll keep it one on that because Mostart and

853
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Jeff Wilson that's a really good combination in the backfield,

854
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: so most are dealing with the knee. Did not participate.

855
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: Tron Armstead Jerone Baker, camp Crossing and Raekwon Davis all

856
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,240
Speaker 1: limited participants in addition to Teddy Bridgewater and Tanner Connor

857
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: full participants. Kdire Cohu started Corner Hunter Long and Derham

858
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: spite to tight ends and Jaylen Waddle dealing with shoulder,

859
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: so they were full participants in practice. And we'll see

860
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: what happens with Thursday. I don't know if either team

861
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: will practice on Thursday. We'll see, but then we'll get

862
00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,200
Speaker 1: the status report on Friday. But that is where it

863
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: sits now. We've talked a lot about the quarterback situation

864
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: here in Houston. Quarterback situation is up in the air

865
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: in the Sunny LA, in the Sunny LA out in

866
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: Sunny LA. In Los Angeles, Bryce Perkins has been taking

867
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: first team reps as Matt Stafford went back in concussion

868
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: protocol and Bryce Perkins, formerly the University of Virginia we

869
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,080
Speaker 1: saw him in preseason, is taking first team reps with

870
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: the Rams. That could get interesting because Bryce Perkins brings

871
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: a whole different element to the game that you weren't

872
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: get with Matt Stafford. You got a little bit with

873
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: John Wolfford, but offense didn't go anywhere with Wolfford, so

874
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: they might be given a shot to Bryce Perkins to

875
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: start for the Rams. The big news is when the

876
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: number two overall pick is put on the bench, and

877
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: that is Zach Wilson. The Jets have replaced Zach Wilson

878
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: at least for this week. But they have put Zach

879
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: Wilson and they have already side. They're gonna make him inactive.

880
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be Mike White to start, Joe Flacco to

881
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: back him up. Now, last year Mike White went great

882
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Gonzo on somebody and trying to remember Bengals. Maybe he

883
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: went off. I mean it was like five hundred yards passingers,

884
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: some ridiculous number, and then the next week he got hurt,

885
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: was brought in Joe Flacco. Now, Flacco went nuts against

886
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns this year, but Zach Wilson has not gone Waco.

887
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: In fact, he threw seventy seven yards against the Patriots

888
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 1: last week. So Jet's looking for more on the quarterback position.

889
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 1: Robert Salas said they needed more. They are going with

890
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: Mike White over Joe Flacco, both over Zach Wilson the

891
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one number two overall pick. Does that mean

892
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: it's over for Wilson, No, it doesn't, but it is

893
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 1: going to force him to have to make some changes.

894
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: Robert Salas said, we need some fundamental things done differently

895
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 1: here in New York with the Jets team six and four.

896
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: Maybe White gives him a bowl a boost. Maybe they

897
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: go to Joe Flacco at some point and give the

898
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: old man another opportunity as he had earlier. This year,

899
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: we'll see the Jets two. They've been finding a way

900
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 1: to win. Do they eventually go back to Zach Wilson

901
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,759
Speaker 1: this year? That's a question for another day. But we'll

902
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: see what happens there in New Jersey, LA. And of

903
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: course here in Houston, we get back Joe Rose, game

904
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: analyst for the Miami Dolphins, good friend of Mark Van Amir,

905
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: is up next with our men behind the Mikes. Right

906
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: here in Texas All Access. We got one hour down,

907
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: one hour left to go. Right here on a Wednesday

908
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: issue of Texans All Access, a pre Thanksgiving addition, All

909
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: Access come and at you. No All Access Tomorrow would

910
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,360
Speaker 1: be NFL Football on Sports Yo six ten all day long,

911
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: all three NFL games and man, pretty good games. Bill's

912
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 1: taken on the Lions. The Giants taken on the Cowboys

913
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: and the Patriots and Vikings and all three games inside,

914
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: which for Thanksgivings a little strange, but I can't say

915
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 1: that too much because the lines have been playing inside forever.

916
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: The Cowboys when they moved over to Jerry World, they'd

917
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: be playing inside, So I guess we're used to it now.

918
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: Sunday's game will be out side, and apparently it's going

919
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: to be in the eighties down in Miami, and it

920
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: was number eighty Joe Rose, who used to be a

921
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: tight end for the Miami Dolphins with Dan Marino. He

922
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: is now an analyst for the Dolphins. He does a

923
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 1: tremendous job. Men. Behind the mics, it's Mark Vanimir with

924
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: his good friend Joe Rose. Mark take it away. Joining

925
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 1: us now in Texans Radio, It's Joe Rose, former Dolphin,

926
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: current Dolphin color commentator and morning show hosted WUQAM in Miami. Joe,

927
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: great to have you on as it going with my

928
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: friend Mark. I'm doing great. It's always great being with you. Man.

929
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 1: I miss I miss our time in south Ford and

930
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: I wish the Texans and Dolphins could play more. It

931
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 1: would be great, well, especially since the Dolphins are doing

932
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: better against the Texans lately like last year, and that

933
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: started a fifteen and four run for Miami. I know

934
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: last year's last year, different staff, So what's the difference

935
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 1: this year with this Miami team that's seven and three

936
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: going into day. Uh, well, you know, we had some

937
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: drama around this team last year. I guess I guess

938
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: that that dramastus going around the league a little bit.

939
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 1: I know you're familiar with it too, but so Um,

940
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: the biggest thing is Mike McDaniel. He comes in, gets

941
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 1: his only interview, and the team like what he was

942
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: selling from San Francisco as their offensive coordinator, and the

943
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:25,160
Speaker 1: way he felt about Tuatungua Vlo. It wasn't just yeap,

944
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: he really believed in him. It was a real positive attitude.

945
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: The team was ready for change and a more offensive

946
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: minded head coach. And Uh, I'll be honest with you, Mark,

947
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: I I've been shocked. It's Uh, it's so positive the

948
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: message every day with this guy. Mistakes, they're they're they're

949
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: they're fixed, but it's in a positive manner. The whole

950
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: thing has been great. Um. I've seen a lot of

951
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: guys respond to it. Almost all the guys said, this

952
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: is you know, I played for Don Shula, so it's

953
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: completely different. You know you were acc able and it

954
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,720
Speaker 1: was tough love. This is, hey, you made a mistake.

955
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: I know you can do better. I've seen it. Take

956
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: a look at this. Let's do this next time. So

957
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:14,280
Speaker 1: nobody gets embarrassed. In team meetings, the guys talk about

958
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: just to a tongue of vy lois as I made

959
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: a terrible throw in camp, and heck I made three

960
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 1: or four at a crumby day, and the coach comes

961
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: over to him and puts a positive spin about the

962
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: good things I did and the things I can work on,

963
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: And so this team has really been able to feed

964
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: off his positive He came in. He knew the guys

965
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: who were beaten up from last year, meaning they didn't

966
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: have success, didn't play well, got criticized a lot, and

967
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: he really went to work on some of those guys.

968
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: Some of those guys were on the offensive line. But

969
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 1: the number one project is the guy that's playing the

970
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: best right now. That's too a tongue of vylois. He said,

971
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna fix everything. You're gonna love my system, and

972
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna get better players around you. I promise you.

973
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: And so it's really the first time two has had

974
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: a message given to him and somebody followed through with it.

975
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't trying to get into Shaun Watson, it wasn't

976
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, it wasn't this guy, it wasn't that guy.

977
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: So he really felt like you know, and and they've

978
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: hit it off, and t is Mike's biggest fan right

979
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: now because they're having success together. He does have better

980
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: weapons to throw too. We've never had anything faster on

981
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 1: the outside. Mike McDaniel's a big believer in speed neutralizes

982
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: all mistakes. So so now you see one of the

983
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 1: fastest teams, if not the fastest team the Miami Dolphins

984
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: ever have ever had in the history of the franchise.

985
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: Joe Rose with us on Sexan's Radio. Joe, you mentioned it,

986
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: you played for SULA. You've seen Jimmy Johnson operating South Florida.

987
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: Nowagat Mike McDaniel a few coaches later, and bigger picture,

988
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 1: do you think coaches have to coach more that way now?

989
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: With positive reinforcement and that kind of thing what you

990
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: just laid out there, So I do. I didn't believe

991
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: it before and when Mike came in and the first

992
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: time I talked to him, I went, whoo, man, this

993
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: guy's out there a little bit. Oh, how's this gonna work?

994
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 1: And sounds great for camp, But what happens when you

995
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 1: lose two or three games in a row and are

996
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,439
Speaker 1: we gonna have finger pointing or what's gonna happen? Well,

997
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: we lost three in a row and this thing stayed

998
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:30,880
Speaker 1: on track. It just got great leadership to it. But

999
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I think this new way, I'm not used to it. Listen,

1000
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,759
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with that way. I didn't grow

1001
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: up with it at my house, and I didn't grow

1002
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: up with it with Don Shula when I got here

1003
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: from my first job in South Florida. But it seems

1004
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: to work on these young guys. I've had two offensive

1005
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 1: linemen tell me, man, it's so nice not to get

1006
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: beat up in film study where you made this mistake

1007
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: your cost us, what the hell are you doing? It's like, hey,

1008
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: check this out, we can fix this. I've seen you

1009
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: do it. And it's like he's just constantly positive and

1010
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:09,439
Speaker 1: he just believes he told the franchises when he got

1011
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: the job. It's something a lot of people in the

1012
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: NFL aren't used to. But I believe in positive reinforcement.

1013
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: I believe in a positive message. I believe there's a

1014
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 1: there's a positive way to critique players play to get

1015
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: him to play better, and it will work, and with

1016
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:31,000
Speaker 1: discipline and everything else. So I'm guessing this comes from

1017
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 1: the Shanahan way. He had great success as an offensive

1018
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: coordinator with the forty nine ers. A couple of guys

1019
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: really had great seasons for him last year. So, boy,

1020
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, everybody's buying him when you're seven

1021
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: and three. A lot easier to buy in when you

1022
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: have winning freak and to a tongue of vloa. Honestly,

1023
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: I think most people thought after two years, you know,

1024
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking for another quarterback, And here he

1025
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: is playing as well as anybody that's playing in the

1026
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: NFL at the quarterback position. Dolphins radio color commentator and

1027
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: WQAM morning show host Joe Rose with us on Texans Radio.

1028
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,799
Speaker 1: All right, so Tyreek Hill joins the team. What has

1029
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,319
Speaker 1: he meant? We see it on the field, Joe, but

1030
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 1: talk to me about what it's like having him around

1031
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,720
Speaker 1: the building in addition to what he's doing on the field.

1032
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: Mark great question, and I'm glad you brought that up

1033
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: because that should be right there at the top of

1034
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 1: the list, Like this thing goes. Mike McDaniel to a

1035
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: Tongue of Vilo, and Tyree Hill, the three key guys

1036
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: to what is going on, came in day one in camp,

1037
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: and I was curious, like everybody that just got an

1038
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: average of thirty million a year to be the highest

1039
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: paid receiver came in and worked harder than anybody and

1040
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 1: usually for the first three weeks of camp, was the

1041
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: best player clearly every day in camp, ran by guys,

1042
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: beat guys on crossing routes, and took a leadership role

1043
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: to make it clear, and it made headlines around the country. Hey,

1044
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 1: to a tongue of Vilo is really frigging good. Matter

1045
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: of fact, I'll take it a step further. He makes

1046
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: throws that even Patrick Mahomes would have trouble making, Like

1047
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: he's right there. So you know, people are going, Okay,

1048
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: now you went too far. You're talking about Patrick Mahomes

1049
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: maybe the best quarterback. But his message was clear, like,

1050
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: hey man, that's my quarterback, that's the guy that's throwing

1051
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 1: to me. I've seen the throws that you guys haven't

1052
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: seen when we have one on one time together and

1053
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: when we're doing passing and you guys aren't around, this

1054
00:50:27,719 --> 00:50:29,880
Speaker 1: dude is putting the ball on the money and giving

1055
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:32,360
Speaker 1: me a chance to make a lot of plays. And

1056
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: I just think, first of all, his work ethic is

1057
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: like nothing I've ever seen in my life. He loves

1058
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: to run, he knows how fast he is, he loves

1059
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: to compete, he's physical, and he's an unbelievable team leader.

1060
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean, like, let's get this thing going in games

1061
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: early in this game. So I think we've all been

1062
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 1: blown away with how hard this guy works every day

1063
00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: and how durable he's been so far. Joe Rose wanting

1064
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: us on Texans Radio talking about the Miami Dolphins. Joe,

1065
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: what about the defense? We know some of the names

1066
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: they're playing well too. What do they bring to the

1067
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: table overall? Well, our defense is not as good as

1068
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be to start the season. Mark,

1069
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: to be fair, we do have some big names on

1070
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 1: that defense. We do have some guys. At the trade deadline,

1071
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,839
Speaker 1: we bring brad Lee Chubb in from the Denver Broncos

1072
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: to add because of Byron Jones being injured. We haven't blitzed,

1073
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: done all out blitzes as zero blitz as they like

1074
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: to calm with no help in the middle. We haven't

1075
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: done as many of those because of injury to the secondary.

1076
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: So it's been a lot more to me, looks like

1077
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: more pass rushing with just four guys or five guys

1078
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: on second and long and third and long. We do blitz.

1079
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: We still mix it in and we've had success with it,

1080
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: but not like last year when we just we send

1081
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: everybody and like beat us. If you don't like it,

1082
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 1: you better block us or get rid of the ball quickly.

1083
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 1: So it's been a little different, but we do have

1084
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,840
Speaker 1: a lot of the same guys on the football team.

1085
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: Jalen Phillis and University of Miami is going to be

1086
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: really really good. Wants to be works hard. I love

1087
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: our defensive tackles. Christian Wilkins for a second year in

1088
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: a row, is playing really well. One of the most

1089
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:24,240
Speaker 1: athletic defensive tackles I've ever seen. Just incredible, incredible talent.

1090
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 1: And then Javon Holland at the safety position is he

1091
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: has been unbelievable to so much, so much fun to watch.

1092
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: He can cover, he can hit. We use them a

1093
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: lot of different ways, and I think if we weren't

1094
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: so banged up in the secondary, they'd allow him to

1095
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: do a lot more things. Joe Rose, WQAM morning show

1096
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: host joining us on Texans Radio. All right, Joe, let's

1097
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: shift gears a little bit here. I want to talk

1098
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,720
Speaker 1: to some college football with you. You've got your pulse

1099
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: on everything in South Florida, and it blows my mind

1100
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: how the Hurricanes aren't better, never mind during the first

1101
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: year with Mario, but just overall over the last decade plus.

1102
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,600
Speaker 1: And I'll add Florida State to the mix. I know

1103
00:53:03,680 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: Jimbo won a national championship there, but he's really struggling

1104
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: here with the Yagg's And we have the problem with

1105
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: the Aggies and the Longhorns as well. So you have

1106
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: Florida State, Florida, Miami down there not at the level

1107
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: that they were. We have it here with Texas and

1108
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. What gives in your opinion? Is

1109
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: it the overall assault on recruiting in these areas? What

1110
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: do you make of it? Well, I talked to you

1111
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,320
Speaker 1: before you and I t did on this topic already talking.

1112
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: But so you're right about one thing. All the talent

1113
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 1: in South Florida used to stay in South Florida. And

1114
00:53:36,080 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: now we've got Ohio State able to come down. We've

1115
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: had Alabama comes down and gets one or two guys.

1116
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: Clemson's had some success, Michigan's had a little bit of success.

1117
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:53,399
Speaker 1: LSU's been down here. I see Penn State actually has

1118
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,760
Speaker 1: been able to get two players out of Saint Thomas

1119
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:59,320
Speaker 1: Aquinas one of the top schools. So this year markets

1120
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: truly interests and we have three two private schools in

1121
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: a public school or three of the top ten teams

1122
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: in the country. And as you know back here, with

1123
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: our rules, you can go anywhere anytime you want, you

1124
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: can transfer, you can go to four schools in four years.

1125
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: Because of that, we have really loaded up on some teams.

1126
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: I mean like four or five schools, Central Miami, Central

1127
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: American Heritage, Plantation, Saint Thomas, Acquaintance, Shamanah Madonna, Cardinal Gibbons,

1128
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: schools like that have just loaded up their teams and

1129
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: it literally can beat just about anybody in the country.

1130
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: It seems so so the talent level of these guys

1131
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 1: playing together, whether they play out of state or play

1132
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: each other every week down here. Football has been fantastic.

1133
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: It's never been better than it is right now in

1134
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: high school football. But with it, there's a lot of

1135
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: money coming in to our economy called coaches, college coaches

1136
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: coming down here and doing a lot of recruiting, and

1137
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,839
Speaker 1: I think it's her the University of Miami. I think

1138
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 1: Florida State and Florida have also been hurt. They used

1139
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: to be able to come down here and also pick

1140
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 1: off a lot of players. So I can only talk

1141
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: for the backyard here, but everybody's coming down here, even

1142
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: the West Coast schools are coming down here trying to

1143
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 1: get some of the top players, and it's been a dogfight.

1144
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 1: I left out Georgia. George has done great down here

1145
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: at a couple of schools and picked off a lot

1146
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: of guys that actually a lot of kids have had

1147
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: success that their father's played professionally or at the University

1148
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: of Miami that have gone out of state. So we've

1149
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: seen that as well. It's a problem. I think the

1150
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: NIL is also going to be a problem for certain

1151
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: schools that can't pay money. I think nobody likes to

1152
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,840
Speaker 1: talk about the dirty little secret that they want to

1153
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 1: clean up, and there's no way to do it, because

1154
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: every high school player wants to know, and mom and

1155
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,279
Speaker 1: dad want to know, and aunt and uncle want to

1156
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: know how much you're gonna pay my son when he

1157
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: gets to your school. It's got to be talked about.

1158
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,879
Speaker 1: And I love when coaches tell me it's not talked about.

1159
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: We don't do that. We No, that's a lie. You

1160
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,800
Speaker 1: have to talk about money. These kids, seventeen year olds,

1161
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: eighteen year olds. You talk to the high school coaches

1162
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 1: down here, they know that these kids are talking about money,

1163
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: especially the four and five star players. Good information, Joe,

1164
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: all right, one more for you. So, you and I

1165
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 1: used to do shows together WQAM in Miami and at

1166
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: the time the station at Jim Mandige, Hank Goldberg. I

1167
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: mean some legends there. The industry, the business has changed.

1168
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 1: How are you adapting with the digital age, social media,

1169
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,720
Speaker 1: all of that, Joe, as you still host the morning show.

1170
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: It's killing me, that's what it's stilling. Social media. It's

1171
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: killing me. I go to tweet, my guys, go don't tweet.

1172
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it looks so bad. No, that's not

1173
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: the way everybody talks. Now, stay away, we'll do it

1174
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:54,279
Speaker 1: for you. So I'm slowly every day as I walk

1175
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 1: in and out the door, I'm getting older every day. Mark,

1176
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: you'll see it coming soon. My friend comes to all

1177
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: of us. Even the different lingo and the different terminology

1178
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: for sports. Now, I've had to change, man, things that

1179
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: guys are saying. I'm trying to stay cool, and it's

1180
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: really hard in your sixties to stay cool in South

1181
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:18,680
Speaker 1: Florida's just doesn't work. Mark, all right, Well, great to

1182
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: visit with you, Joe. Look forward to see you on

1183
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 1: Sunday in the booth in Miami, Texans and Dolphins. Thanks

1184
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: a lot for the visit. Thanks Mark, you got a buddy.

1185
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 1: Thank you got chance to meet Joe last year. And

1186
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: what a guy, so so cool, Really glad to meet him.

1187
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: And of course, oh football historians, So I used to

1188
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,440
Speaker 1: watch him with the Dolphins, and so I remembered him,

1189
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:38,919
Speaker 1: and so it's really cool to meet somebody from those

1190
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: great Miami teams of the late seventies, early eighties. So

1191
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: Joe Rose of the Miami Dolphins. When we get back,

1192
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 1: it'll be about desmon King of your Houston Texans. Do

1193
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: a little deep slant with deepe City. That's the next

1194
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: right here in Texas All Access. It is a pleasure

1195
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,480
Speaker 1: to be joining you on a Wednesday edition of Texans

1196
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. It's time for

1197
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: our Schlumberge Stats Challenge. You can check out the Chumberge

1198
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: Stats Challenge. Easy for me to say at Houston Texans

1199
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 1: dot com. Here's your number. Nine point eight. Nine point eight.

1200
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: That's the yards per catch of houstonian and current Miami

1201
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: Dolphin Jalen Waddle back in twenty twenty one, one hundred

1202
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: and four catches nine point eight yards perker. You do

1203
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: to go over one thousand yards. But man, it was shallows,

1204
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,919
Speaker 1: it was crossers, it was screens, anything that he could

1205
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: do to pick up four or five yards, pick up

1206
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 1: some seven eight nine yards. Yeah, there's nine point eight

1207
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: yards to catch Jalen waddle in twenty twenty two. Is

1208
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: this the Tyree Hill effect? Is just this the guy

1209
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: expanding his repertoire. This is this the Mike McDaniel offense

1210
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: that is doing this double He is over seventeen well

1211
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: not quite double, he is over seven teen yards per catch.

1212
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:04,240
Speaker 1: It's been amazing to watch what Jayle the Wattle has

1213
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: been able to do it. And that is your Schlumberja

1214
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: Stat's challenge, and the Texans have to keep Waddle under

1215
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: that number more to his twenty twenty one number than

1216
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: to his twenty twenty two number if they plan to win. Now,

1217
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 1: one of the guys charged with keeping that number under

1218
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 1: control is our next guest. His name is Desmond King,

1219
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: and he sat down for a Deep Slant Thanksgiving style

1220
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: with Deep City, Deep Ticket Away. It's a Deep Scent

1221
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: one on one presented by Xfinity. My guest this week,

1222
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: Desmond King, year six, year two with the Texans. I

1223
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: know that it's been a crazy year so far, but

1224
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: you've sort of played all over the field. So what's

1225
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 1: it like for you to sort of move back outside

1226
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: just being available, you know, for when the team needs

1227
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: me to move somewhere wherever they ask me to go,

1228
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go there, and I'm gonna go do it.

1229
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 1: That's just what I'm about, and that's just about being

1230
00:59:53,040 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: a team player. I know that Levey Smith he talks

1231
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 1: about how he likes players to just play one position.

1232
00:59:58,080 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 1: He doesn't like them move around so much, and I

1233
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: feel like that does not apply to you, because the

1234
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: one thing he likes about you is your versatility. Like

1235
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,919
Speaker 1: last year you came in here and you were asking

1236
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,600
Speaker 1: him with outside and you never played outside before. Yeah, no,

1237
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 1: that that was the first time last year. So this year,

1238
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 1: I kind of, you know, I already been in that

1239
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: type of environment, so I'm already like kind of acclimated

1240
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: to like being in an outside corner as well. So, um,

1241
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: I mean it's good to go back out there. I

1242
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: know I'll get a lot more opportunities with the ball

1243
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: throw my way, so I just gotta be ready to go. Okay,

1244
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: So in the off season, did you was your off

1245
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 1: season routine different knowing that you there's just add added

1246
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 1: some more stuff to it. Yeah, so, I mean that

1247
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: was pretty much it, but there's nothing, not a big change. Okay.

1248
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 1: You mentioned more opportunity with the ball, and I was wondering,

1249
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: do you think that there are more interceptions when you're

1250
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:50,000
Speaker 1: playing outside or is it when you're slot corner. I mean, yeah, yeah,

1251
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean last year I didn't have none that Nicol

1252
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: when I first came, so when they moved me to outside,

1253
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: I got three of them, so you did. So I mean,

1254
01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe there is a difference. I mean

1255
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna see, but you've never played outside with your

1256
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: previous team, and I was looking at your record. So

1257
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: you have eight career interceptions and your team, whoever you've

1258
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:12,440
Speaker 1: played for, has won all those games but one. Then

1259
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: last year you had one interception. We didn't win that

1260
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: game San Francisco, but we beat the Titans on the

1261
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: road beat Jacksonville. That was the last time you had

1262
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: an interception, the last time the Texans won. So what

1263
01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: do you feel like it's like for you just getting

1264
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Speaker 1: your hands on the ball, Like what needs to happen

1265
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: for in order for interceptions to come here? Well, just

1266
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: being an opportunistic I think that's that's when it all

1267
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: comes down to. When the ball come my way, I

1268
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: gotta seize the opportunity and make it happen. All right,

1269
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: So you work one on one with Lovey for the

1270
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: he likes that position, the nipple corner. What's it like

1271
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Speaker 1: getting to work one on one with him so much?

1272
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: You Really it just comes down to knowing your responsibility

1273
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: with him, Like, yeah, you could teach you like a

1274
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: whole bunch of stuff concept route concepts, personnels and just

1275
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: like what you can think what's gonna But really he

1276
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: wants you to just read your keys and that's and

1277
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 1: just be instinctual. Like he wants you to use your

1278
01:02:08,040 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 1: instincts and just read your keys, and like that's going

1279
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: to take you to where the ball is going to

1280
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: be at. I mean, Lovey loves coaching the defense. He

1281
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: loves every level of the defense. But why do you

1282
01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 1: think that's a position that he wants to take under

1283
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: his wing. I mean, from what I remember is I

1284
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: heard the nickel position is the most important position on

1285
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: the defense. I forgot where I read that. I saw

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01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: it in the article actually, and I mean I kind

1287
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: of agree with that because you you have so much,

1288
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: so much like importance of the defense. You gotta play

1289
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 1: in the run, you gotta go cover a receiver like

1290
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 1: and you got to communicate with the linebackers with the

1291
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:42,680
Speaker 1: saydies are in the corner. So it's kind of like

1292
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: you really are the quarterback of the defense. Also, So

1293
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: it's just like it's a lot that that position has

1294
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: has to come with. It seems like that in itself

1295
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: is very You have to be very vold. Definitely, you

1296
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: got to be very versatile because it's like I said,

1297
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: it's a lot you have to do in that position.

1298
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: What about those conversations with Lovey when you when Tavy year,

1299
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: you guys sit with him, Do you guys ever talk

1300
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: about other things? Is it? Yeah? No, he definitely asks

1301
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: about our family. Um, he actually about us, our charity

1302
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: foundations that we have and everything like that. So it's

1303
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,400
Speaker 1: not just football all the time. So I mean it

1304
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 1: can get very interesting in our meetings. You never know

1305
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: what you can get from living, all right, So what

1306
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: are your charity foundations? By the stuff up? Yeah, it's

1307
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: a Keen Carras Foundation, So basically just the mission is

1308
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: helping out low wage families. Just I go back home,

1309
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: I do uh book bags to toys for kids. Um,

1310
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,080
Speaker 1: I do Thanksgiving events back home. I did. I did

1311
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 1: an Easter one this past year as well, so it

1312
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 1: was good. I mean, just going back home and just

1313
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: doing that there. All right, So you're from Detroit and

1314
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: it's Thanksgiving weeks. So growing up in Detroit watching the

1315
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:51,080
Speaker 1: lines play on Thanksgiving Day, I mean everybody's watching that game.

1316
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,960
Speaker 1: But was it different being in that city? What do

1317
01:03:53,000 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: you remember most about those The parade man, And I'm

1318
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 1: actually excited because they said the parade is actually returning

1319
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 1: back to Detroit. So let's go and be pretty cool

1320
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: to uh kind of see. I know I'm going to

1321
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,120
Speaker 1: see it around like on Facebook and stuff like that,

1322
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be pretty cool to see that. Did

1323
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 1: you attend the parade or were you watching? Actually? I did.

1324
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: I was in the parade one time. Were what did

1325
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: you do? I was just on this like it's like

1326
01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:18,320
Speaker 1: this little thing and we're just standing on it. And yeah,

1327
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:20,440
Speaker 1: it was like my school. They actually brought our whole school, Like,

1328
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: wasn't our whole school? I think it was probably a

1329
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,320
Speaker 1: couple of great classes that went wow, yeah, but it was.

1330
01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: It was cool though. It was cool. Did you have

1331
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,040
Speaker 1: to be on the Thanksgiving Day pre I mean I don't.

1332
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 1: That's hard to top on Thanksgiving when once you get

1333
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:32,959
Speaker 1: to do that as a kid. All Right, you've talked

1334
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:35,400
Speaker 1: about this team being like a family in the locker

1335
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 1: room being a family. A few weeks ago at Las Vegas,

1336
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 1: we saw Andre Johnson sort of tap you up before

1337
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 1: the game. And how much have you gotten to know him? Um?

1338
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty often. Me and Andre we kind of met

1339
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: last year. I can't remember where at but we kind

1340
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 1: of like met last year and we just talked about, like,

1341
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 1: you know what you know what we expect like from

1342
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: the organization, from the team. I mean I just remember

1343
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 1: watching and play back in the so I mean it

1344
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: was cool to kind of just talk to him and

1345
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 1: get to know like who he is and stuff like that.

1346
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:07,800
Speaker 1: Does he talk ball with you or you guys don't

1347
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: not really. I mean we don't go to in depth

1348
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 1: with football. I mean we don't really want to keep

1349
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: everything involved with football, you know. So yeah, sometimes you

1350
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: got to get away from it as well. I heard

1351
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: that you texted or reached out to Derek Stingley on

1352
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: draft night when you found the Texans drafted. Yeah. When

1353
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 1: I when I found out, we drive to him and everything.

1354
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 1: I just wanted to welcome, welcome, will open hours and

1355
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: let him know if there's anything that you need or

1356
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: you know, concerned about, just you know, I'm always here

1357
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: as the open hand. And he was a big reason

1358
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: why you moved back from outside back to slot and

1359
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: now with him being injured, you've moved back outside again.

1360
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: So what is that like As a veteran we see

1361
01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 1: a younger player sort of come in, just him under

1362
01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: your wing. Yeah, just really just telling to keep his

1363
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,920
Speaker 1: head up man, and just you know, work, work as

1364
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: hard as you can and get back. I know it's

1365
01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: going it's tough because it's his rookie year and everything.

1366
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 1: So a lot of people have been through, you know,

1367
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: that type of situation before. So um, you just gotta,

1368
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: you know, keep his head up and just work back

1369
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: to getting back out there. All right. I know. Thanksgivings

1370
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 1: coming up around the corner. So what's your favorite dish?

1371
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: And is it hard as an NFL player to control

1372
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 1: yourself on Thanksgiving? Order? Is that a date? It's like

1373
01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: a cheat meal you get like free range. It's definitely

1374
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: a cheap meal. I'm gonna say that. Oh I'm glad

1375
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: to hear that. Definitely a cheat meal. But uh, favorite

1376
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: dish you gotta go in mac and cheese. I mean

1377
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: like that's that's like one dish that you can't like

1378
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:29,479
Speaker 1: not have like at the table. So like if there's

1379
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,560
Speaker 1: men not mac and cheese there or yeah, I don't

1380
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: want to know that. I'm what about most overrated dish?

1381
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 1: The one that you can just like I don't need

1382
01:06:38,920 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 1: that anymore, like a side it doesn't have it could be.

1383
01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I know where this is going.

1384
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:53,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not a big hamra okay, Okay, So I

1385
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 1: mean I don't really care for it. Okay, I mean

1386
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: the turkey. Okay, you're okay with the turkey. Yeah, you

1387
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: gotta have to gotta be good turkey though. Yeah, yeah,

1388
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 1: that's I don't like driving. We talked to Troy Harriston

1389
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: and he wanted to give rid of the turkey and

1390
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 1: he felt apologetic and Mike, don't be apologetic. Yeah, I

1391
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: personally love the turkey. But yeah, that's for the right way. Desmond.

1392
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Speaker 1: A pleasure to talk to you once again, Best of

1393
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,720
Speaker 1: luck for the love Das. We had a chance to

1394
01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: catch up with Dez on Monday, and we always have

1395
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: a fun time talking to him about Detroit where he's been.

1396
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: He was very introspective when we talked to him the

1397
01:07:26,080 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: other day, but he's really really fun to talk to

1398
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: Him'm glad that we had an opportunity to do just that.

1399
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:34,320
Speaker 1: Now one of his Detroit homeboys a little bit older

1400
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: or sorry, a little bit younger. It's Troy Harriston. We've

1401
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: got a little bit of that conversation with Troy and

1402
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: DP and Mark next, in addition to a little in

1403
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: the lab to shut her down right here. Thanksgiving an

1404
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Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. We want segment of this

1405
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: edition of Texans All Access. I'm your host, John Harris,

1406
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: Football analyst, sideline reporter. It's time to go in the

1407
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:58,080
Speaker 1: lab with my man, Drew Tory. Drew take it away

1408
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,360
Speaker 1: in the lab time. Texan is on the road this weekend,

1409
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: taking on Miami. I'm Drew Doherty, your John Harris. John.

1410
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 1: Weird times around here, but yeah, okay, this running attack

1411
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins is solid. But I'm not scared of it. However,

1412
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: I am if I was, you know, thinking in scared terms.

1413
01:08:25,200 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm not literally scared. They're not gonna chop me up

1414
01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: into a million pieces. But goodness gracious, Tyreek Hill and

1415
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: Jalen Waddle with a little sprinkling a mic asiki all

1416
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 1: with two a tongue of violoa throwing the ball to him.

1417
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,840
Speaker 1: How do the Texans combat that? Because it looks like

1418
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: we're not gonna see Darryl Derek Stingley Junior out there,

1419
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:51,440
Speaker 1: But how do you contain that powder keg of explosiveness.

1420
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: It's interesting because I was watching him this this morning,

1421
01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 1: probably my second viewing wasn't I've seen the Browns game

1422
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: and I'd seen him earlier this year, the Bengals game

1423
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: was not a great representation of them because Teddy Bridge

1424
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: when I was coming in the game for two, got

1425
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: hurt early in that one. But this way, every game

1426
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: that Ta has started, I think they've won the three

1427
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: that he did and they ended up losing. So I

1428
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,639
Speaker 1: feel like the Miami offense went to a different level

1429
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday because of what you just pooh pooed the

1430
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:26,560
Speaker 1: run game. It's not it's not a run game that

1431
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 1: features of Saquon Barkley. It's not a run other features

1432
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: of Damian Pierce. But what it is is a very

1433
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: diverse run attack. So Mike McDaniel and Chris Greer they

1434
01:09:39,400 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 1: traded for Jeff Wilson. They brough Jeff Wilson ver for

1435
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:43,120
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, they had Rhee Mostert, who is

1436
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 1: from the area Marine Island or New Simitar Beach by

1437
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:50,200
Speaker 1: Buddy Coach from high school. So they've got two really

1438
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: fast running backs and they do some different things. So

1439
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: they actually play a lot of fullback tailback, you know,

1440
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,000
Speaker 1: twenty one personnel suftimes twenty personnel, which is two backs

1441
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: and no tight ends. Sometimes they'll do two backs and

1442
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 1: one tight end, but they come out of the shotgun,

1443
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: so they can do some different things out of the shotguns.

1444
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 1: So they'll run some wham plays, which is kind of

1445
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: a like a trap almost a trap play, like a

1446
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: double trap sort of thing. They'll run z own plays,

1447
01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: they'll do different things in the run game. And so

1448
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 1: what happened last week or two weeks ago, because they

1449
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 1: had to buy last week, when they ran the ball

1450
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety five yards, they ended up with

1451
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 1: just under two hundred yards. They threw for three hundred.

1452
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're an offense that goes two hundred

1453
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: three hundred a game, I mean that's incredible. Yeah, I

1454
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: mean that's just I mean, that's difficult. So the key is,

1455
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:41,040
Speaker 1: I think in the run game, it's you can't be

1456
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: flying up field all day. Because of the way that

1457
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: they run their gap schemes where they're pulling and they're

1458
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: kicking out or they're trapping and they're doing things like that,

1459
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,400
Speaker 1: it just opens up big seams. Against Cleveland, there was

1460
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,680
Speaker 1: there were massive seams because Cleveland's running up field and

1461
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: they were just trapping them moved out of the way.

1462
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: It's a really good and well constructed run scheme from

1463
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 1: Mike mcdan. So you've got to play your technique sound.

1464
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,599
Speaker 1: You gotta be technique sound. You gotta tackle well. Wilson's

1465
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:07,680
Speaker 1: not the biggest guy. Most are not the biggest guy,

1466
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 1: but man, they're fast, and if you let them get

1467
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: to the second and third level they're untouched, they'll be

1468
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: on touch going seventy five to the end zone. In

1469
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: the passing game. I don't want to say it's easy,

1470
01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:19,479
Speaker 1: but I think what you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: do is take away their deep shots. Any deep shots.

1472
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 1: I said this on Tell Straighter and got posted at

1473
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: our Twitter account. Nothing deep, nothing cheap. If they're gonna

1474
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: get something deep, it better be Tyreek making one hell

1475
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:35,719
Speaker 1: of a play like he did in twenty nineteen against

1476
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: US we won over Justin Reid and snatching your receptions. Yeah,

1477
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,479
Speaker 1: through his hands. That's that's got to be what he gets.

1478
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: It can't just be you blue coverage and Tyreek just

1479
01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: and he's throwing it down the field. I think that's

1480
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 1: such a big part of their offense that if they

1481
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: don't have that, I think two is patient to take

1482
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: the intermediate throws and things like that, but he's gonna

1483
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: eventually want that deep shot and eventually he's gonna throw

1484
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: you one. They need to get a deep shot or

1485
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: they're feeling that way and you're playing deep, you're playing

1486
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 1: at top of routes, and you go and steal one

1487
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 1: from him. You never know how that impacts the confidence, etc.

1488
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: But with hill and waddle, you just gotta stay on

1489
01:12:10,240 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: top of every deep route you have and make sure

1490
01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: those routes don't hurt you because eventually what they'll come

1491
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: back to or some catching run situations for them both

1492
01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: to get them loose, and then you just have to

1493
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 1: come up and tackle. All you have to do. You

1494
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: have to come up and tackle them in space, and

1495
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: that's probably as difficult as anything you'll do all day,

1496
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,320
Speaker 1: but that's what you're gonna be charged to do. That's

1497
01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,600
Speaker 1: what you're paid to do. Everybody's on scholarship in this

1498
01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: building and building down in Miami, and those scholarship players

1499
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: have got to show up and make some plays on

1500
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 1: the defensive side. Make it tackles. All right, Let's go

1501
01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: out and left field, because I got this question on

1502
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,479
Speaker 1: dear Drew. Okay, and we know all the stuff going

1503
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,560
Speaker 1: on with a quarterback spot looks like a change so

1504
01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: on and so forth. So that's been covered quite a

1505
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: bit by you guys on Texans All Access. But this

1506
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: is something that I thought about quite a bit over

1507
01:12:55,120 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: the last month or so because I've been looking to

1508
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,200
Speaker 1: the years ahead, Right, what does this offense? How much

1509
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: better does it? What changes about this offense? What about

1510
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:09,639
Speaker 1: it looks better next year maybe and certainly the year after,

1511
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 1: almost for sure, with John Metchi in the fold, alongside

1512
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:19,600
Speaker 1: Nico Collins, in union with Damian Pierce, and along with

1513
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: maybe one or two other weapons that you add in

1514
01:13:21,720 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 1: the draft or free agency. But what is the Mecchi

1515
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: addition to the equation? At minimum, just him, along with

1516
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: probably at maximum more. But what does he add to things?

1517
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: You think? Just another playmaker with balls hands, And that's

1518
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: I think what this offense absolutely needs the more. I

1519
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 1: mean when you look around the league, Monday Night's a

1520
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,240
Speaker 1: great example of that. And I'm not saying that these

1521
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 1: guys are in the class of what I'm about to say,

1522
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: but Jimmy Garoppolo is a quarterback that I mean, Shoot,

1523
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,280
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers drafted Trey Lance to replace Jimmy Garoppolo.

1524
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo was basically sitting over in a

1525
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: corner doing nothing, and then Trey Lance got hurt and

1526
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: herre like, DIMMI want to come back. Forty nine ers

1527
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:05,679
Speaker 1: have it running back Chritian McAffrey. They also have Elijah

1528
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: Mitchell receiver. They have Brandon Iyuke and Deebo Samuel at

1529
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 1: tight end. They have George Kittle. Does Elijah Mitchell run

1530
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: a three point nine in the forty looks like he does? No,

1531
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:16,880
Speaker 1: he was not. He was not. I don't think he

1532
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: was a total burner, like he's shot out of a cannon. Now, Dad,

1533
01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 1: well he's he's a phenomenal football player. I would have

1534
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 1: loved him. But my point in bringing all those guys

1535
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,880
Speaker 1: up as you go, oh, that's that's two man. No,

1536
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as two many nine in this league.

1537
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,720
Speaker 1: And what the forty nine ers have really figured out.

1538
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,759
Speaker 1: And when you look the box score was like, holy smokes,

1539
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:40,679
Speaker 1: Kitt'll caught two touchdowns. I you cut two touchdowns. Debo

1540
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 1: had like five or six catches, but he had three

1541
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:48,000
Speaker 1: or four rushes and McCaffrey, McCaffrey had I think they

1542
01:14:48,040 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 1: came out what it was It was like forty to

1543
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 1: fifty yards rushing, but he had another seven catches for

1544
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,320
Speaker 1: fifty nine, and then Elijah Mitchell was the leading rusher

1545
01:14:54,360 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 1: with only nine carries. Point being, when you have all

1546
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: those different weapons kind of like Miami does. Miami's got Tyreek,

1547
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,360
Speaker 1: I got Jalen, Like at Kasikia Titan would they want

1548
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:04,439
Speaker 1: to throw it? But they've also added those two running

1549
01:15:04,439 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: backs and Wilson and Mostart, and people would be like, well,

1550
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 1: who's Wilson and Mostart? Those guys were big time ball

1551
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: carriers for the forty nine ers. Now they get an

1552
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,640
Speaker 1: even bigger opportunity down in Miami. So when you have

1553
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:18,320
Speaker 1: multiple weapons to use in multiple ways, you make it

1554
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: that much harder for a defense to lock in one

1555
01:15:21,240 --> 01:15:23,519
Speaker 1: way or the other. And here's a great example of that.

1556
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 1: So against Washington. One of the things I noticed against Washington,

1557
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: and then I went back because I asked both Lovey

1558
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: and Nick about this and they both said, hey, this

1559
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 1: is Nick was interesting because Nick said this was something

1560
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots have been doing for a long time. But

1561
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:42,360
Speaker 1: the commanders played Nickel. So as soon as you hear Nickel,

1562
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 1: you think, oh, well they're defending the pass right. Five

1563
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 1: dbs are in the field, you're defending the pass, but

1564
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 1: the commanders are used again against the runs. So what

1565
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: they would do is they would put their their three

1566
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 1: three lineup ins. So they would have their three interior guys.

1567
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 1: Now they're typically at fourth three team, but they would

1568
01:15:57,479 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 1: play three interior guys and they would have two outside linebackers,

1569
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,880
Speaker 1: so essentially five guys up front, so every single guy

1570
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 1: on the offensive line is covered. And then they would

1571
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 1: play one linebacker and then they would play their nickel corner.

1572
01:16:10,120 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 1: And what stood out to me was that Bobby McCain

1573
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 1: is so small and he's sitting next to John Bostick,

1574
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a second, what the And then

1575
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: I realized how genius it was, because blocking those five

1576
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:24,800
Speaker 1: guys with your five, it's just one on once and

1577
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: no matter how good your offensive line is, somebody's gonna

1578
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 1: lose on the offensive line. So you're all covered up

1579
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: up front, you take away a lot of the double

1580
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: team stuff, and you can't really get to the linebacker,

1581
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 1: and yet you're still able to cover the past because

1582
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,639
Speaker 1: you're a nickel. And I'm like, well, that's that's brilliant.

1583
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:46,200
Speaker 1: So when you're trying to pound Damian Pearson, there you

1584
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 1: really can't. So, okay, what's the answer. What do you

1585
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: go to next? We'll watching the forty nine ers. I'm

1586
01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: sitting there going, okay, Well, let's say the Cardinals couldn't

1587
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: stop Mitchell or McCaffrey. Well, they could take McCaffrey, put

1588
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: him in a slot and throw it to him if

1589
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: they wanted to. But then they bring Demos Samuel in

1590
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 1: a reverse. All right, you're gonna stop us. Here comes

1591
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: Samuel reverse. What did the commanders do? Commanders flip the

1592
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: ball to John Dotson. Going the other way, they gave

1593
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: a speed sweep to Curtis Samuel. My point in all

1594
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: that is having a guy like Matchi, a playmaker like MATCHI,

1595
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: you add it to a ball beast like Nico Collins

1596
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:22,960
Speaker 1: who just attacks the football. That's two guys. So in

1597
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,479
Speaker 1: Damian Peers is obviously gonna be the bell cow, and

1598
01:17:25,479 --> 01:17:27,160
Speaker 1: hopefully he's gonna be that for a while. So now

1599
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 1: you've got three guys you look at go okay, we

1600
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: think these guys. You need more. I don't care how

1601
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,200
Speaker 1: many they bring in. I don't care who they are,

1602
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:37,479
Speaker 1: but you've got to bring in more guys that put

1603
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:39,600
Speaker 1: pressure on a defense and I don't care if you

1604
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:41,759
Speaker 1: do it early and you look at a Jordan Addison

1605
01:17:41,840 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: from USC look at a Quentin Johnston from TCU. If

1606
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 1: you look at a Rashi Rice maybe later in the

1607
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: first or on it's the second. Wide receivers are very

1608
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: very interesting. I don't care if you look at that

1609
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 1: it's been injured all you're like Jackson Smith and Jigba.

1610
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: If you're able to get him somewhere in a draft,

1611
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,040
Speaker 1: I think he would come in and do some incredible

1612
01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: things for you. I don't care if it's Rogers who

1613
01:18:00,720 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 1: turns into the next seven games, he turns into you know,

1614
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman reincarnet, don't I don't care. But you just

1615
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: have to have more guys that are threatening with the

1616
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 1: ball in their hands or can get the ball. Nico,

1617
01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't look a Nico. I think he's

1618
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: a catching run guy. He could be, but he's just

1619
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: a threat because he can go deep. He can run

1620
01:18:20,479 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: the outroud on you. He can you know, mosh you.

1621
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 1: But you just need more playmakers with the ball in

1622
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: their hands. So we're getting pressure. Flip it out to

1623
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:32,679
Speaker 1: this guy. You know they're backing off. Okay, run Pierce

1624
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,799
Speaker 1: who's the other guy that can carry the ball along

1625
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: the same lines as Damian Pierce, who gives you that

1626
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 1: same juice? Can you play them together with two backs?

1627
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: And we've seen a little bit of that. You need

1628
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: ball carriers that make plays bar none. I mean, that's

1629
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: what this league is all about. Look, look, maybe maybe

1630
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 1: we'll find one this weekend perhaps, and you know, Benjamin, Yeah,

1631
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 1: maybe he gets out there and does some things and

1632
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,599
Speaker 1: shows you some things that you can capitalize on down

1633
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 1: the line. Yeah, you're absolutely right, Drew. And And I

1634
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:03,280
Speaker 1: was just about to say, you know, as I was

1635
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: talking about Amari, you don't know what you're gonna find

1636
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:08,560
Speaker 1: with him. Yeah, I mean, maybe you find that same thing, like,

1637
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,560
Speaker 1: hey man, we got something with this I'd like to

1638
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: I've seen from him the very short amount of practices. Yeah,

1639
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:15,679
Speaker 1: I mean, he's got a different he's got a different

1640
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: gear and I like that. But here here your top

1641
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: offenses in the league. And I think it's sort of

1642
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: fascinated to think about what these teams have. Miami's number

1643
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: three in the league and offense, and we just went

1644
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 1: through all the different weapons they have. A New Orleans

1645
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 1: team is not playing very well, but Jarvis Landry, Michael

1646
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: Thomas when he's healthy, Alvin Kamara. They've even gotta Taysom Hill.

1647
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:40,519
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't even mind having a player like that,

1648
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:43,600
Speaker 1: like to carry on Joyner who played the other night

1649
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: for South Carolina. He threw a pastor Suspencer. Rather he

1650
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: caught three. He ran it five times. He was a

1651
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: lead blocker to play. He's six two two fifteen. He's

1652
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 1: like Taysom Hill. That's another type of player you'd like

1653
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:56,720
Speaker 1: to have. Somebody that can do some different things. That

1654
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: creates problems. But you just look at the playmakers, the

1655
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,799
Speaker 1: you know, ten offenses have We're lacking in that department

1656
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:08,360
Speaker 1: in volume. That is very true, because well I said

1657
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: it now. Our next guest is someone who can block

1658
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,960
Speaker 1: and open holes for all those ball carriers no matter

1659
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 1: where he is on the field, and that is Troy Harris.

1660
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: He spent a few minutes with dpm mark this week.

1661
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: How's it going, Troy? It's going good. How are you

1662
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 1: doing great? All right, so let's talk about Central Michigan

1663
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 1: football for the next half hour. All right. Sorry, I'll

1664
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,080
Speaker 1: just see my way out, you know, I just tap

1665
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: fire up chips. They played a snow game last week. Yeah,

1666
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 1: Western terrible, like you could barely see on TV, so

1667
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 1: it looked like a white hour. So yeah, well why

1668
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:42,040
Speaker 1: did you decide to go there? Because you're from the

1669
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 1: Detroit area, right, So why Central Michigan? Um? Well, Central

1670
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 1: was close enough to home and I had really two

1671
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 1: offers coming out of high school and it was a

1672
01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: preferred walk on the Central and a offer from a

1673
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: D two school in Kentucky, and it was going to

1674
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 1: cost the same, so I just took a chancel myself

1675
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 1: to go and play one. Worked out very well with

1676
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: all the Mid American Conference accolades, and here you are

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, blessed, blest, beyond blessed. But I

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01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,879
Speaker 1: think you're so humble about your journey at Central Michigan

1679
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: because you and I chatted about it briefly, but you

1680
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,960
Speaker 1: actually started on special teams and then you were on

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01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 1: the equipment staff for a while. Yeah, not playing football. Yeah,

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01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: for a little bit. I picked up loops and I

1683
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: did a period changes on the scoreboard. I would come

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01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 1: in every morning when they would practice and watch practice,

1685
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:33,360
Speaker 1: just so I could be around the team and try

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01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 1: to learn something. So that's amazing. What were some of

1687
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 1: your other duties as equipment, were you like handling uniforms

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01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: or not equipment stuff or you were just it was

1689
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: just loops. And I would come in and I would

1690
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,920
Speaker 1: have a script of everything that would happen, and there's

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01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: a there's a little thing that used to control of

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01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: the scoreboard and the end zone. So they would want

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01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:56,479
Speaker 1: time period all that stuff. So I would just do

1694
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 1: all that. That was just a way for me to

1695
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: be around. Body, see my face knew me, so I

1696
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: could ask questions. I could be on the sideline. I

1697
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:07,840
Speaker 1: would call a personnel stuff like that. So, okay, this

1698
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: might be a dumb question. What is loops? Um, it's

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01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: the stuff we wash our clothes on. So like after

1700
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 1: you come off for practice, you go and through all

1701
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: your practice equipment on this like string. It's like a

1702
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:23,640
Speaker 1: it's a loop. Yeah, yeah, it's a little loop, just

1703
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 1: picked up laundry loop. Yeah, you don't put it in

1704
01:22:25,720 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: one of those mesh bags. Yeah, it's another way to

1705
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, they're going around throw them in there,

1706
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: but sometimes you pick them up or sometimes dude throw

1707
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: when they're done and they're not practicing, throw me practice jerseys.

1708
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: So I've had that happen a couple of times and

1709
01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that. So Troy Harriston joining us on the

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01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:44,719
Speaker 1: Texans Players Show. All right, So one more thing about

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01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 1: Mount Pleasant, Michigan. The Sagada Chippewa Tribe casino. Is there

1712
01:22:49,479 --> 01:22:51,920
Speaker 1: our students allowed to go their student athletes or is

1713
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 1: that a no no to go into the casino? It

1714
01:22:54,760 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: depends who runs the team. Years years of was it

1715
01:23:00,479 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 1: was not? Okay? It was no no. Some years it

1716
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: didn't matter, so it was really up to who were

1717
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 1: in the team. Had you ever been yeah, okay. Hypothetically speaking,

1718
01:23:14,920 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: it used to be Roulette, okay, let yeah, because I

1719
01:23:18,080 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't play every time. I would take my chance on

1720
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: a on a bigger odd bet. Yeah, and once I

1721
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: would win, I would hold wait, wait, wait, then take

1722
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 1: that chance again. I'm like that too with roulette. It

1723
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: makes no sense to play it. It's totally chance. It's chance.

1724
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: There's something about the wheel dp it's a hypnotic effect

1725
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,880
Speaker 1: that the wheel gets money ring. Yes, but there's just

1726
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: something about if you if you play a number and

1727
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 1: you hit a number and Roulette, there's no greater feeling. Literally,

1728
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. So I used to I used

1729
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 1: to do something where I would have a stop of us,

1730
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 1: so I would like take like twenty to thirty dollars,

1731
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take my credit card and I would go

1732
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:01,599
Speaker 1: and uh, sometimes like two hundred dollars and walk out.

1733
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,080
Speaker 1: So well, I'm telling you that guy is a breath

1734
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 1: of fresh air. And I'm talking about Mark or DP.

1735
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about Troy Harrison. Now, they're a breath of

1736
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:10,880
Speaker 1: fresh air too, and they're a couple of my good friends,

1737
01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,800
Speaker 1: and I give thanks for them. I give thanks for Troy.

1738
01:24:14,160 --> 01:24:16,760
Speaker 1: I give thanks for so many different things, my wife,

1739
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 1: my family, and my parents. I mean, so many good people,

1740
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,160
Speaker 1: so many good things to give thanks for. I give

1741
01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 1: thanks to the McNair family. I give thanks to all

1742
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: of you, give thanks to everybody at Sports Radio six ten.

1743
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:31,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to leave anybody out, so I'll just

1744
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,679
Speaker 1: say to all of you, Happy Thanksgiving. I give thanks

1745
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 1: for all of you. We'll see you on Friday, and

1746
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: as always, go Texans.