WEBVTT - Ep. 1: Keep Your Eyes on These Players at Camp 👀 | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:03.440 --> 0:00:06.280 This is JAGSA. I'm the first edition in our brand 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:10.240 new podcast studio in our brand new building, the Miller 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.960 Electric Center. Guys, what's your favorite thing about the NEC The. 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:15.440 Windows, every single one of them. Twenty nine years in 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.560 a building without them, natural light is appreciated. 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.919 Well, look around you at the TV studio, the TV 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:22.599 studio and the podcast studio. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.800 Jags A. I'm presented by Carshield. You can call car 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.800 shield now if your cars out of manufacturer's warranty. Do 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:49.400 not get stuck with expensive mechanical and computer repairs. Call 0:00:49.640 --> 0:00:53.160 car shield Now. I'm your host, Ka Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton, 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.240 John Osier with me today. Not to brag, but look 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.760 at where we are a little bit of a change 0:00:58.760 --> 0:01:02.120 of venue. I'd say we're going up here. Obviously everyone 0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.800 has seen what the practice facilities look like for the players, 0:01:04.840 --> 0:01:07.160 but we've got our new studios as well. So I'm 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:09.320 enjoying the new digs, the new normal, if you will. 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:12.800 Well, you know we're talking about being a consistent playoff team. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.200 They're talking about championship caliber football. Here you have championship 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:20.520 caliber facilities, both for those of us at broadcasting and 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:22.840 for the football folks. It feels like it's happening at 0:01:22.880 --> 0:01:24.560 the right moment, not an accident. 0:01:24.760 --> 0:01:27.760 If you're going to be one of thirty two, you 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.120 have to keep up here in the stadium, which we're 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:33.160 gonna be talking about, you know, for the next couple 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:37.280 of years. You must be state of the art and 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.880 you must be you know, the best that there is 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:41.440 out there, and this is that And. 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:43.680 We joke around, oh yeah, there's windows, there's natural light. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.920 But that's talking about the word joking, because when you 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.000 go to work and you don't know what time of 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:50.800 day it is, it's a little bit different. And not 0:01:50.840 --> 0:01:53.080 only that, you're trying to recruit players to come here. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.160 Jacksonville's on the up swing. You've got a great young quarterback, 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:58.320 and when you want to come to work, maybe you 0:01:58.360 --> 0:02:00.560 want to stay in the off season and actice out 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:03.600 of this facility that has to help this team moving forward. 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:04.120 I would think. 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:04.240 So. 0:02:04.280 --> 0:02:05.920 I can't tell you how many times I talked to 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.640 coaches who would come through here over the years and 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:11.840 they'd be like, yeah, you feel disconnected when you're in 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.760 the cave, right, And Tom Coughlin loved that because he 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:19.560 wanted the guys focused on nothing but football. But it 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:23.320 tend to your mind, Wanders. It's it really It matters 0:02:23.360 --> 0:02:25.640 that you can see what's going on in the world outside, 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.080 and then I can tell you, for one, that sitting 0:02:28.200 --> 0:02:30.720 at a desk with a window is I'm not going 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:32.800 to be in such a hurry to get outside like 0:02:32.840 --> 0:02:33.919 I had been all these years. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:38.440 John, I know you like your corner office in the darkest. 0:02:38.120 --> 0:02:40.280 We well, let's not call it a corner office. 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:43.320 I'm being generous by calling it a corner office. It's 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:45.720 literally a corner of a room. Are you going to 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:47.560 come over here now that we have some more space? 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:51.919 If invited, I will attend fair enough. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.040 We're gonna get into the details of nitty gritty all 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.280 the fun fancy stuff that they have in this building 0:02:56.280 --> 0:02:58.119 a little bit later on in the show. But let's 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.440 talk about one of the bigger stories this offseason. Evan 0:03:00.560 --> 0:03:02.640 Ingram has signed a new deal. We did not know 0:03:02.680 --> 0:03:04.400 if it was going to be a franchise tag or 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:06.240 if he was going to get a longer term deal done. 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:08.440 I think the team wanted it done, Evan Ingram wanted 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.840 it done. Finally we get the specifics of it, that 0:03:10.880 --> 0:03:14.320 three year deal. Brian where what does this mean. For 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.519 it to finally be the offense that we've already talked 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:18.520 about is excellent. But to now have this back. 0:03:18.360 --> 0:03:23.720 And well he is going to in today's game. It's 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:28.240 about space. It's about creating space and letting your playmakers 0:03:28.560 --> 0:03:30.920 go one on one with someone out in space. And 0:03:30.960 --> 0:03:34.360 Evan Ingram is going to create space, Calvin Ridley's going 0:03:34.360 --> 0:03:37.840 to create space. Guys like Christian Kirk and Zay Jones 0:03:37.920 --> 0:03:42.640 and Travis etn we'll all benefit from the space. Let 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:44.280 me take it from a different angle, right, John can 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:45.800 talk a little bit more about the football. 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:45.840 Side of it. 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.080 For me, it creates space with the salary cap, right, 0:03:48.360 --> 0:03:50.760 because there were only a few guys kai where they 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:54.559 could go and create room. One of them is obviously 0:03:55.640 --> 0:03:57.560 Evan Ingram, and you did it. You're not going to 0:03:57.600 --> 0:03:59.600 do anything with Josh Allen because he's on his fifty 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:02.880 year ten. You're not going to do anything with Kyviri 0:04:02.960 --> 0:04:06.320 Ridley because you want to see something from him. And 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:11.560 then you come up against Cam Robinson and you're probably 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:13.120 not gonna do anything there either. So he was one 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.120 of the few places where you could create salary cap 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:17.719 room heading into the season, John The Jaguars have the 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.520 fifth most salary cap space, and if they need to 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.719 go and sign a veteran pass rusher, if there's a 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:26.440 corner that they decide they want to chase, they've got 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:27.560 the room to be able to do it. 0:04:27.760 --> 0:04:31.200 Yeah, it gives them some flexibility. If they don't do it, 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:35.520 then it gives them some options at the trade deadline. 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.880 I don't know that they're going to be in it, like, 0:04:38.200 --> 0:04:40.320 I don't know that they feel panicked to do anything. 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:44.320 Keep getting questions about pas Rusher, et cetera. You still 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.640 want to not be silly with what you do now 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:48.320 because the roles are in the future and they've got 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:49.920 issues going forward. 0:04:50.000 --> 0:04:51.560 So then they got another guy they're gonna have to 0:04:51.560 --> 0:04:52.760 pay a lot of money to coming up. 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.120 Yeah, so you got to be smart about it, you know. 0:04:55.480 --> 0:04:58.920 I think it's more of it of a cap space 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.200 story than it is a twenty twenty three story. Evan 0:05:02.400 --> 0:05:05.040 was going to be here. He had the right attitude. 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:09.680 What was impressive was, even if he had had to 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:13.280 play under the franchise tag, you never got any impression 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:17.200 that it was going to be a negative situation. He'd 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.320 gone out to Arizona with the guys he was going 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:22.520 to be here. He was all in on this. What 0:05:22.560 --> 0:05:24.480 this does is he keeps them all in for two 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:24.960 years here. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:27.480 I was able to cover the giants a little bit 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.520 while Ingram was there, and he was a completely different person. 0:05:30.560 --> 0:05:33.320 I'm sure he's told you guys as much, just what 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.719 he was able to come here in a one year 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:37.880 and do. Brian, I know you said he's one of 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.119 the guys you go to go to God. He's become 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.480 that vetter in presence a little bit. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:43.120 Well, first of all, every time I talk to him, 0:05:44.120 --> 0:05:46.280 he was grateful to be here, right. I mean, he's 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.200 from outside of Atlanta, he played at all this He 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:51.400 had nothing negative to say about playing in New York. 0:05:51.480 --> 0:05:54.200 But we all know that's a completely different planet, let 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.080 alone a different part of the country. I mean, that's 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:59.599 completely different. He felt comfortable here with the coaching staff, 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.160 with the ski, especially with the quarterback, and all season long, 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.640 even during that five game losing streak where they were 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:08.560 losing at the end of the game, he saw something 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:11.600 and he kept telling his younger teammates just keep working. 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:16.120 This thing is starting to arrive. I was not surprised 0:06:16.120 --> 0:06:18.400 that they got something done maybe the timing of it, 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:21.000 but it was clear he wanted to be here. 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.320 John, You've worked in other markets, obviously, you've seen free 0:06:24.320 --> 0:06:26.839 agents come and go. It really feels like he just 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:28.520 felt at home here and this was a place where 0:06:28.520 --> 0:06:30.400 he could blossom and it was the right time for 0:06:30.480 --> 0:06:31.560 him to come to Jacksonville. 0:06:31.640 --> 0:06:37.080 Ya as Brian was talking just now, the comparison, and 0:06:37.920 --> 0:06:41.520 it's so far removed, it's three decades later. But remember 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.080 Jeff Lockman was drafted in New York, came here, played 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:49.359 I think three seasons with the Jags, and if I'm 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.400 misremembering his career, I apologize three or four seasons here, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.880 and it made his home here. Clearly thinks of himself 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.000 as a Jaguar. Now he's gone on to work for 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.800 the team for years. All that makes but you know, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.719 it feels to me like Evan, even after a year, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:11.480 considers this his football home. Maybe I'm exaggerating that, but 0:07:11.560 --> 0:07:17.880 that's how it felt. So a good move. Happy for him, 0:07:17.920 --> 0:07:20.160 and I think it settles him going into the season, 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:21.240 which can be nothing but positive. 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.720 And I think it bears mentioning this a couple of 0:07:23.760 --> 0:07:25.440 years ago was thought to be a place you didn't 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:26.360 want to go right. 0:07:26.560 --> 0:07:27.520 And now we're getting. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.600 Exactly the facility, the coach, the quarterback, the market, the 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:35.000 state right with all of the weather and the tax 0:07:35.560 --> 0:07:38.320 issues that worked to a player's advantage to play here 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:40.760 as opposed to a California or in New York or 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.520 in Illinois. This is a place where all of it, 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.360 and the quarterback in particular is going to attract a 0:07:47.360 --> 0:07:49.880 lot of people. And you can tell we. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:51.280 Talk a ton about the offense. I do want to 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.760 get to the defense a little bit because I know, Brian, 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.120 you have a little bit of a hot take that 0:07:55.160 --> 0:07:57.240 you read it and brought to me. I won't give 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:58.520 it to you. I won't like to make you go 0:07:58.600 --> 0:08:00.880 with it, but you brought it to me that I've 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.120 found very interesting thought. Let's discuss it. 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:07.160 Randy Mueller, right, longtime general manager in this league, most 0:08:07.280 --> 0:08:10.520 visibly in Minnesota. Recently he was in Seattle. His brother 0:08:10.600 --> 0:08:13.000 Rick was one of the key personnel guys here as 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.760 Tom Coughlin built this team twenty nine years ago. I 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:18.200 know you remember him, John. He writes for the Athletic 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:22.560 Now and he wrote a sentence about the Jaguars defense 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.680 that really caught my attention and that was that the 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:29.560 Jaguars defense has more players who are tough to block 0:08:30.160 --> 0:08:33.400 than any other team in the league, any in the 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.000 league exclamation point. He said, it hasn't shown up yet, 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:40.520 but when you look at these guys, you see big 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:44.280 guys who run, who have the measurables, and they will 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:47.720 be a good defense this year if given the chance 0:08:48.320 --> 0:08:49.840 to go and chase the quarterback. 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:51.040 It's very interesting wording. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:51.320 John. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.240 Do you feel like some of that is the uniqueness 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.319 of certain position players that we. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:09:01.200 Have maybe some so much of its projection, because I 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.640 can't say that any fan who is reading that and saying, well, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:07.520 that's ridiculous is wrong because we haven't seen it. 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:08.680 I haven't proven yet. 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.800 It hadn't been proven yet. I still think a lot 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:15.040 of it goes back to what Brian alluded to. This 0:09:15.200 --> 0:09:19.680 defense really in recent memory, even last year when this 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:22.400 team was good, did not play with a lot of leads. 0:09:22.440 --> 0:09:25.439 You know, you think about the playoff game. I think 0:09:25.520 --> 0:09:28.160 they led for what thirty seconds in that game, So 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.880 that was the trend coming down the stretch late in 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:35.560 the season. If you think about it, in games where 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:39.440 the defense stood out late in the season, you really 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:44.680 think of the Jets and the Texans, well, they never 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.160 got down in those games, so the defense was able 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:50.640 to play its game against offenses that had to be bound. 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:54.160 You know that we're not able to run and protect 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:57.120 the quarterback the whole time. I believe they will play 0:09:57.120 --> 0:10:00.160 with more leads. I think if they do, you we'll 0:10:00.160 --> 0:10:04.800 see players like Trayvon, like Josh Allen, make Randy Mueller 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:05.640 look like a prophet. 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.080 Not just him though. Roy Robertson Harris is a really big, long, 0:10:09.440 --> 0:10:12.120 physical guy. Fully fought Takasi. I don't think he was 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:17.200 healthy all season long. Devin Lloyd, I mean, here's a guy, 0:10:17.240 --> 0:10:20.040 and of course Tyson Campbell is a big corner. So 0:10:20.200 --> 0:10:22.000 I think that there's just a lot of guys to 0:10:22.080 --> 0:10:23.760 choose from. One other thing that he said that is 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:25.680 worth mentioning is he said, if you have a couple 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.240 of bucks just for giggles, throw it down on Trayvon 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:30.880 Walker to be the defensive player of the year. 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.840 He's that good. And even hotter take within the hot take. 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.000 I love a hot take, not us. Oh no no, 0:10:37.320 --> 0:10:39.800 we're all absolve ourselves. We just heard about it, so 0:10:40.040 --> 0:10:42.520 we'll bring it back. We'll do the receipts later hopefully 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:45.840 he is a prophet and that all comes true. Stay 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:47.680 with us. We're going to look ahead and a little 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:51.120 bit about seeing who will be needing to make this 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.160 training camp roster or make their best effort out there 0:10:54.200 --> 0:11:10.360 in training camp coming up. Jags Am is back with 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:12.959 you. You can call car shield now if your cars out 0:11:12.960 --> 0:11:16.319 of manufacturer's warranty, do not get stuck with expensive mechanical 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.960 and computer repairs, call car shield now. We are certainly 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:24.720 happy to be in this new studio with jags Am. 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:26.200 We got a new name for you guys as well. 0:11:26.240 --> 0:11:27.840 We're going to try out some new things. We want, 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.360 you know, our fans and everyone to be involved a 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:34.000 little bit more so. We hope that you get to 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.439 us on social media or wherever, right into John and 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.320 let us know what you think or what you want 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:41.000 to see, because we've got some new things we're working 0:11:41.040 --> 0:11:43.280 on and hopefully you like them. One of them is 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:45.839 the fifty three we're looking at. His early training camp 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:47.360 has not begun yet, but who's going to make this 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.719 final roster and who are some people we're looking at 0:11:49.760 --> 0:11:52.200 that need to have a good training camp if they 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:53.719 want to make the roster. Brian will start with you y, 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:54.520 I'll be getting. 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.160 The fifty three with Gregory Junior. It's no surprise because 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.520 quarterback was an area of emphasis this offseason. We talked 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.520 about it a lot, and the Jaguars were often identified 0:12:04.559 --> 0:12:06.800 in the first round of the draft with one of 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:08.760 those cornerbacks, and there were a number of them. Of course, 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:10.720 they didn't end up that way. They took Canton Harrison. 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:13.000 The Jaguars grabbed a young man last year in the 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:17.480 sixth round named Gregory Junior from what Cheetah Baptist in Arkansas, 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:22.480 smallest of schools. He's the first player ever drafted from 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:24.800 that school. Now, he's not the first player to play 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.840 in the NFL. A guy named Cliff Harris is in 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:30.200 the Hall of Fame. He went undrafted back in seventy 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.640 and was a great safety with Cliff Waters or pardon me, 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:37.280 Charlie Waters during the seventies. Okay, that's a sidebar. 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:37.680 That's me. 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:44.520 Here's the pro ready. He's a big corner. He's six foot, 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:48.040 one hundred and ninety pounds, but he's muscular. He's big 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:50.960 up top. He's got a big set of legs on him. 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:54.120 He's got long arms. He looks the part of a 0:12:54.160 --> 0:13:00.520 physical corner. What he lacks, John, is that experience against 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:04.280 elite level athletes, because you didn't face that NCAA Division 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.240 two right, you faced small college players. So he's behind 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.440 the curve of players who played in the SEC or 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:14.080 the Big Ten. He needs time on task. But talking 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.680 to guys last year about him, he got better on 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.000 the practice field and a number of the coaches said 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.760 he's got a chance, which coming from which he'd a 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.240 baptist in the sixth round. You didn't say that necessarily. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.480 He earned the chance to be in the conversation this year. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:31.439 I don't know whether it's fair to say, but the 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.680 Jaguars really need him to step up and to have 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:38.520 a great training camp because he's a guy with the 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:41.080 physical capabilities to play John, But you and I both 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.079 know it's an intellectual game. You got to know how 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:46.440 to read an offense and figure out what's coming, and 0:13:46.520 --> 0:13:47.680 we'll see if he can get there. 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.959 I think got cornerback depths. As much as people have 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:53.640 talked about past rush, I think got cornerback depth in 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.120 training camp is a huge story. You've got Tyson Campbell, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:14:01.319 Trey Herndon, and Darius Williams well you got those three 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.079 guys who you feel good about. We're not sure what's 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.880 going on with Chris Claybrooks some off the field stuff lately. 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.480 Where is the fourth, fifth, sixth corner. I think he's 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:13.640 got to come out of the group. They have drafted 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:17.560 it late last year, they drafted it late this year. 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.080 At some point, if you're going to take that approach, 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.320 somebody from that group needs to step up and be 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:30.160 that death we're talking about. They have to have some 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:32.720 production and have to have those guys develop. 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.080 And I think going into training camp, you know, having 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:39.760 that depth is never a bad thing, so no matter 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:41.400 what position it is, so hopefully we can get that. 0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.480 And if you're trying to make you know, cornerback or 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.040 anything like that, obviously playing special teams is a huge 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:48.160 part of that as well. John, is there anyone you 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:49.440 have your eye on that needs to have a good 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:50.440 training camp? In your eyes? 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.000 I'm always tight end. Garrett Prince. I think he's a 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.440 first year guy, second year out of school, was on 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.680 the practice squad all last year. I think people who 0:14:58.720 --> 0:15:01.840 have watched these shows, who've listened to us is not 0:15:01.920 --> 0:15:03.720 surprised that I went that direction. We talked about him 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.360 a lot during the off season. The tight end room. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:11.120 I don't want to say it's set, but you've got Ingram, 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.000 Luke Farrell, and you have Briton Strange and I think 0:15:14.040 --> 0:15:14.960 I think Prince will be. 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:15.560 The fourth guy. 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.640 You usually have four that you like that you sort 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:22.120 of have interchangeable parts with. I think Ingram and Prince 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:29.000 feel like the move guys. Feral and Strange feel like 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:30.760 guys who can block and bring a little bit more 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:35.120 of that. That's usually the combination, Brian, that you go 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.000 with out of that bunch. But out of the four, 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:41.200 Prince is clearly the guy who needs training camp to 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:46.040 sort of solidify what's been whispered and talked loudly within 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.640 this building about. They like him, they think that he 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:52.040 has a lot of potential, but he has to show 0:15:52.080 --> 0:15:54.600 that with pads during practice and in preseason. 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.240 So you recall we were standing on the practice field 0:15:56.240 --> 0:15:58.480 one day last year and a member of the personnel 0:15:58.560 --> 0:16:00.760 department kind of tapped us on the shoulder. Don't sleep 0:16:00.760 --> 0:16:04.440 on him. He's got good height, he's got really good length, 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:08.360 he moves well, has a feel, and he's not scared 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:09.880 in the middle of the field. You know, not everyone 0:16:10.320 --> 0:16:12.440 operates well in the middle of the field, but he 0:16:12.480 --> 0:16:15.400 clearly is comfortable out there. I think he's a terrific 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.400 looking prospect. Whether he becomes a terrific player or not, 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:21.120 that's up to him, but he certainly has a chance and. 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.200 He's in a good position here. Obviously, Evan Ingram has 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:26.200 been around a little bit, and he's really taken on 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.000 that veteran role where he's helping younger players now that 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:31.160 he's come here and felt comfortable, So I have no 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.800 doubt he'll be very helpful in that tight end room. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:34.880 I think I'd be really. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.280 Helpful with thirteen point six million dollars, I think anything 0:16:37.320 --> 0:16:40.240 could make me for a year. Yes, you need baby, 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:42.880 really I wish for me. 0:16:43.080 --> 0:16:45.680 I'm looking at one of the picks from this year. 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:47.440 We had a lot of draft picks this year. Yeah, 0:16:47.480 --> 0:16:50.520 Cier Abdullah out of Louisville. A lot of people think 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:53.160 he's undersize. You know, he's not gonna be able to 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.400 translate that numbers. If he's a sack guy in college, 0:16:56.400 --> 0:16:58.600 as some would say, he can be a sack guy 0:16:58.600 --> 0:17:01.960 in the pros. I'm a fan. Just in our limited 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.640 interaction they talk about culture around here. This man will 0:17:04.680 --> 0:17:07.960 fit in absolutely perfectly. And just to see the way 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:09.840 he goes about things. You see some of these rookies 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:11.520 come in. Their eyes are real big. They don't know 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:13.640 what's going on. They're just trying to figure it all out. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:16.400 He seems like he's been here for five years already. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:19.879 You're looking for guys who can multitask, who could do 0:17:19.920 --> 0:17:22.040 different things, and he's got the body because he's a 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:25.080 bigger pass rusher. He's got the body to be able 0:17:25.119 --> 0:17:26.800 to get up towards the line of scrimmage and be 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.840 effective against the run and not just that edge rusher. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:32.000 But he's also got the quickness based on the numbers 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.440 that he put up at Louisville, when you have twenty 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.439 three twenty four sacks in his career, he's got the 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.560 ability to play in space as well. In today's day 0:17:39.560 --> 0:17:41.160 and age, you get a fourth or fifth round pick, 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:42.600 you need the guy to be able to do multiple 0:17:42.600 --> 0:17:45.320 things and probably play on special teams. He looks to 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:46.480 me like a guy who can handle that. 0:17:46.720 --> 0:17:49.560 Yeah, it's always tough. People have listened to me for 0:17:49.600 --> 0:17:53.320 a long time. No, I don't love talking about rookies 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:56.359 in training camp because I'm always skeptical how much a 0:17:56.400 --> 0:17:58.920 rookie's going to produce in this league, especially outside the 0:17:58.960 --> 0:18:04.280 first round. But there is a spot edge rusher, pass 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.159 rusher on this defense. I think the team will be 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:12.760 watching to see if they have that depth we were 0:18:12.800 --> 0:18:16.399 talking about earlier Trayvon, Josh Allen and obviously youre set 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:20.119 calebon Chase on. We'll see there's a spot for a 0:18:20.160 --> 0:18:22.520 young player and if do it can be that spot 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:26.080 to step in and I get a real opportunity. I 0:18:26.119 --> 0:18:30.879 think for him, there's an unusual opportunity for a rookie 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:34.800 to come in and produce early on a lot of teams. 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:36.600 I don't know that you would have that clear cut 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.760 spot if it was last year with arden Key still here, 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:42.400 I have a clear cut spot. There is an opportunity 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:43.960 for Abdula to make an impact. 0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:45.399 This year, and if anybody's gonna come take it, I 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.320 wouldn't doubt that it would be him. He certainly isn't 0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.359 starstruck by the lights or anything like that, so we'll 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.000 see what he's able to do in training camp. We 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:53.560 want all of you to stay with us. Coming up, 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.600 we're going to talk about the Miller Electra Center, our 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:58.440 new studios and all of that right here in the 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:07.320 Hyundai studios. So stay with us. Yes, move the freight, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:11.359 Move the freight. Magellan Transport voted coolest office space in Jacksonville. 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:15.600 You can apply online at Magellanlogistics dot com. I know 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.600 they're the coolest office space, but when they vote again, 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.399 we might have a chance of that because this new 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:24.040 facility here, this is just our podcast studio. We also 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.639 have a new studio where jags Am will be in 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.480 the future, and just this building as a whole. It's 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.240