WEBVTT - Floods, Fire & Hunger - Lab 105

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<v Speaker 1>Take off your safety goggles, put down your lab coats,

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<v Speaker 1>throw caution to the wind, because it's just me and

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<v Speaker 1>TT for this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Are y'all ready for that?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if y'all are ready for that. We

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<v Speaker 3>did this one time before and it seemed like y'all

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't ready, But we're jumping right back into it, so

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you are prepared. Hold on to your seats.

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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about the science behind the latest news and

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<v Speaker 3>what we're seeing on our feed. So from torrential downpours

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<v Speaker 3>to raging fires, suspicious bruising and swelling, and why food

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<v Speaker 3>is both political and scientific. We're covering it all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, buckle up because today's Lab is a triple maybe

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<v Speaker 1>quadruple feature.

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<v Speaker 2>Got a lot of stuff talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm TT and I'm Zukiah and this is Dope Labs.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Dope Labs, a weekly podcast that mixes hardcore

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<v Speaker 3>science with pop culture and a healthy dose of friendship.

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<v Speaker 3>All Right, this week is a which is always fun

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<v Speaker 3>to meet t T because I love to hear you

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<v Speaker 3>explain things and we get a little bit more time

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<v Speaker 3>that just you know, laid back and have a little fun. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot more casual, you know than our typical

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<v Speaker 3>labs setups. But we go through a lot and it's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of topics that we are really interested in,

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<v Speaker 3>but just you know, either it's not enough to fill

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<v Speaker 3>a whole episode or we want to talk about it

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<v Speaker 3>like right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, very impatient, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And also I don't know if it's just me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like the news cycle is going so fast,

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<v Speaker 1>like every day, something else, something else, something else, and

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like, how do you pick what you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about if we're going to do a full episode.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's why we have these grab bags, because we

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<v Speaker 3>can put a little bit of everything in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You always have like then appetizer sampler, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>want to try all the different things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm like a few a mood boosh, Yes, a

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<v Speaker 3>mood boosh from the.

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<v Speaker 1>Shift here at the end of July. So, like the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighth through the thirtieth, we've seen Detroit grappling with

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<v Speaker 1>flash floods that have led to washed out roads, delayed flights,

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<v Speaker 1>and really left thousands of people without power. It's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that severe weather isn't just local to Detroit, though, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a national concern. In fact, those recent events in Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>echo an even more devastating situation that we saw unfolding

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<v Speaker 1>over the fourth of July weekend when a storm dumped

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of rain on Caerra County in Texas. There

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<v Speaker 1>was over like sixteen inches, so that's more than a

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<v Speaker 1>foot over sixteen inches of rain in two hours, so

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<v Speaker 1>a flash flood. There was loss of property and really sadly,

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<v Speaker 1>the loss of lives. I think one of the big

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<v Speaker 1>stories I saw was about campers and staff, so kids

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<v Speaker 1>and staff members at this camp, and I think they

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<v Speaker 1>claimed like twenty seven people's lives, and then for the

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<v Speaker 1>entire region, so I think that area is called like

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<v Speaker 1>Hill Country. The official death toll rose to one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty eight people. It's really off, it is. And

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<v Speaker 1>when I think of Texas, I don't typically think about floods,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've been thinking about that more and more ever

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<v Speaker 1>since I watched this short from Toppy Story. So we

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<v Speaker 1>know the filmmakers who run Toppy Story. So Samuel and

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<v Speaker 1>I they did a short called Floodplaines from the Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Water Federation. We'll have to drop the link in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes because it's so good. It talks about this

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<v Speaker 1>event that happened many years ago. And I think floods

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<v Speaker 1>are scary, but flash floods are even scarier.

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<v Speaker 3>Because one thing about flash floods is that they happen

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<v Speaker 3>so fast in like a localized area, so there's almost

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<v Speaker 3>no time to react. At first, everything's completely dry and

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<v Speaker 3>it might be raining, but then next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the water is up to your knees just a few

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<v Speaker 3>minutes later. So it's really really hard to have a

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<v Speaker 3>plan and to act, and it can take only a

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<v Speaker 3>few minutes to hours, And it's really like in the

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<v Speaker 3>name flash flood.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, like always you have this sideline commentators. I

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot of people on the internet like I

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<v Speaker 1>would have done this, and I would have done that. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know what you would do. You don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you don't know. So there's been a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of controversy about the emergency notification system in Kerr County,

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<v Speaker 1>and family said that the warnings came way too late,

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<v Speaker 1>so they didn't have time to react. And now we

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<v Speaker 1>know from some recent hearings that the county's own emergency

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<v Speaker 1>management director admitted that he was home, sick and asleep

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<v Speaker 1>while the flash flood waters were rising, so by the

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<v Speaker 1>time he got the call and then woke up, the

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<v Speaker 1>worst of it had already happened. Now, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a tragedy, and it's also got people asking some really

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<v Speaker 1>tough questions about accountability and backup plans and if we're honest,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing isn't just a Texas problem. Flash floods and

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<v Speaker 1>gaps and emergency responses have hit communities all over the country,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a reminder that disasters are not waiting for

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<v Speaker 1>you to be ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean right where I live in the DMV area,

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<v Speaker 3>we just had flooding here in mid July, and different

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<v Speaker 3>areas were underwater.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very, very scary, and it happened very quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it feels like it's more frequent. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>not just my fields, because the National Weather Service backs

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<v Speaker 1>this up too, and they say they've issued more than

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<v Speaker 1>three thousand flash flood warnings so far this year, and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's the highest number on records since they've been tracking,

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<v Speaker 1>and they started tracking back in nineteen eighty six.

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<v Speaker 2>F rand wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's high in twenty twenty five, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was also high in twenty twenty four. Too, and so

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<v Speaker 1>this is all part of a bigger trend.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and the trend it's shifting with the client our

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<v Speaker 3>climate change issue. So part of climate change is that

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<v Speaker 3>it's warmer. So with the warmer climate, you have warmer air,

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<v Speaker 3>and with every extra degree celsius, the air holds seven

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<v Speaker 3>percent more water. What makes this soul mind bending for

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<v Speaker 3>me is that we're talking about climate change and that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's driving like that heat engine. Not only is it

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<v Speaker 3>causing flooding in places like Texas, but it's also drying

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<v Speaker 3>up other places that don't get rained. So Texas is underwater,

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<v Speaker 3>but California is getting baked.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens when it's a drought, right you stretching that

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<v Speaker 1>WaterCycle at both ends. It's bucket loads of water on

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<v Speaker 1>one side, bone dry in other places. I'm like, how

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<v Speaker 1>do you make sense of that?

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<v Speaker 3>Canada is in its fourth worst fire season one record.

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<v Speaker 3>They've had thirteen point eight million acres scorched so far,

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<v Speaker 3>and the smoke keeps drifting south. We have the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing I remember I was in when was that That

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<v Speaker 3>was probably twenty twenty three, where the smoke from Canada

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<v Speaker 3>made its way down here and everything was orange.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember those pictures from like New York?

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember the DC. Oh my gosh, it was

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<v Speaker 1>wild and on the heels of those Canadian fires. Minneapolis

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<v Speaker 1>then clocked in as the fourth most polluted major city

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<v Speaker 1>on Earth, and then Michigan and wiscon and also lit

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<v Speaker 1>up as unhealthy on the air Quality Index maps, and

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<v Speaker 1>even New York. The State of New York issued advisories

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<v Speaker 1>as a result. They're right up there border in Canada.

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<v Speaker 3>So even though fires are happening in another country, the

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<v Speaker 3>wind pushes that smoke straight into the US's lungs.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are feeling it.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's because borders are social constructs. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say I'm gonna step off my soapbox because we're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about that in another episode.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to let people know what they

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<v Speaker 1>should be doing. If you think you're in a flood zone,

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<v Speaker 1>sign up for the NAA text alerts. You know, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure you have little I like these things. Ntt you

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<v Speaker 1>got me one digelt pill cases? Right? If you have

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<v Speaker 1>Mason that you take stock up a backup one, because

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<v Speaker 1>when it floods, you also don't have power. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>find things, have stuff that you need readily available, especially

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<v Speaker 1>as we move into hurricane season. Just be ready with

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<v Speaker 1>these kind of things.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, having a go back, I mean, that's the key

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<v Speaker 3>to that was something you put me on too. When

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<v Speaker 3>the pandemic can have a go bag if you live

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<v Speaker 3>in a flood area, I think is really really wise,

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<v Speaker 3>having you know, some cash if you need it, having

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<v Speaker 3>a portable charger for your phone that's already charged up,

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<v Speaker 3>and other necessities that if something terrible were to happen,

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<v Speaker 3>that you would be able to just reach for that

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<v Speaker 3>bag and have some resources.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think similarly, if you are in smoke zones,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly our border states, downloading apps like air now or

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<v Speaker 1>iq air before outdoor plans like so knowing even just

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<v Speaker 1>knowing the smoke exposure or the air quality so you

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<v Speaker 1>can wear a mask or avoid being outside right for

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<v Speaker 1>your own health.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And also I think you know, we got into the

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<v Speaker 3>habit of wearing mask back at twenty twenty twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>and now we're kind of laying off the mask. But

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<v Speaker 3>I think that when it comes to air quality, break

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<v Speaker 3>out that mask because it will be very very good

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<v Speaker 3>in the long run. Also, having an air purifier, or

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<v Speaker 3>you can do a DIY box fan afire and someone

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<v Speaker 3>who has asthma and struggles when the air quality is bad,

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<v Speaker 3>having an air per of fire really just saves me.

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<v Speaker 1>I like the ones that have an app where you

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<v Speaker 1>can monitor, and like, even when you're cooking, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see right quality changes. And we should know this because

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<v Speaker 1>we have a friend who did some work on this

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<v Speaker 1>in grad school or maybe in his post doc. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, cooking is bad for you. Well, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say bad for you.

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<v Speaker 3>My cooking is bad for you. Godspeed to everyone in

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<v Speaker 3>my household. There was a picture that showed up on

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<v Speaker 3>my timeline and I was like, I don't know whose

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<v Speaker 3>legs those are, but that is not correct. And it

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<v Speaker 3>turns out that it was actually Trump's feet and they

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<v Speaker 3>were very puffy and swollen. And I was like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know what's going on with him. But it turns

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<v Speaker 3>out he was diagnosed with chronic venus insufficiency.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, let me tell you something that speaks to all

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<v Speaker 1>of my fears. I will get on that now. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>save that for later.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was leaning in. I was like, let me

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<v Speaker 2>hear you know how I.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel about compression socks and all that stuff. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the human body is just miraculous. Thinking about like valves

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<v Speaker 1>that push blood, like our circulatory system, our vasculatory, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a closed system, which is why although I give

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<v Speaker 1>blood to the Red Cross, I always feel very nervous.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, that's a closed system. Don't be putting stuff

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Don't puncture these veins. Right, we have valves

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<v Speaker 1>that push blood to different places, and they're supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>snap shut and not let blood pool in our lower extremities.

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<v Speaker 1>But over time those doors don't make a firm they

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<v Speaker 1>start becoming loose, like a saloon door to start swinging

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<v Speaker 1>back and forth, and then that gravity is going to

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<v Speaker 1>do his thing, you know, and so you get blood pooling,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what leads to that type of swelling in

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<v Speaker 1>the legs and ankles like we saw.

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<v Speaker 3>So is this an inevitable thing for folks or is

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<v Speaker 3>it like lifestyle?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think some of it is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of both. Part of it is aging, but that has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with how we age, you know, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you're walking more, if you're having more water, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing compression socks, like so even when you travel. You

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<v Speaker 1>know you've been on long trip with me. You know

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<v Speaker 1>I'm putting those compression socks on the same and I

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<v Speaker 1>think there are different more I would say, more invasive

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<v Speaker 1>or more complex treatments, but this is something that's happening often.

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<v Speaker 1>This is no different than what your cardiologists would give

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<v Speaker 1>your grandma, like the information they would give your grandma

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<v Speaker 1>or appearance, you know, just about aging. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it is important. And so some of y'all might be thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, why is this news? Why do we care

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<v Speaker 1>that his legs are well? Transparency? You know, we act

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<v Speaker 1>candidates for their tax returns, so vascular ultrasounds should not

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<v Speaker 1>be off limits. But we saw that physical. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>physical was off limits.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he tells us that he like lives off McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, listen, I'm partial to a mc chicken, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I can't live and a coke coke no ice large,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. But the ultrasounds aren't off limits, just like

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<v Speaker 3>we know, you know, when any president or former president,

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<v Speaker 3>when they get sick and we know what's going on

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<v Speaker 3>with their health. A lot of us sit at desks

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<v Speaker 3>for our work, and this should be a lesson to us. All,

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<v Speaker 3>get up, stand up, stand up for your rights and

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<v Speaker 3>get that bod bump so that you know that blood

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't start pulling and exercising those veins.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if you're listening to this, stand up right now,

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<v Speaker 1>walk the rest of this episode, okay, because also this

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<v Speaker 1>is something because T T and I, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>work sitting down. We are at our unless we're out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a special event or something. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>been our recent I think just last week we committed.

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<v Speaker 1>We said we were going to do two fifteen minute

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<v Speaker 1>sessions a day to just break up that seated position.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold us accountable.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're listening to this right now, put a comment

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram and say, hey, have y'all done?

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<v Speaker 2>Y'all fifteen minute walk?

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<v Speaker 3>Because one thing about me and my friend, we can

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<v Speaker 3>come up with an excuse to not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go ahead and be really transparent. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not the president, so they don't need full transparency for me.

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<v Speaker 1>But just tonight I told T t U huh, I said, hey, tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about our walk because I'm getting my

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<v Speaker 1>hair done.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that's not right.

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<v Speaker 1>I know because Cecily, doctor Schulinferd told us what to

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<v Speaker 1>do to keep that hair intact. I have no reason,

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<v Speaker 1>but the.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing is, y'all.

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<v Speaker 3>When she said that to me, you know what, my

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<v Speaker 3>response was good because I just washed my hair today.

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<v Speaker 3>Birds of a feather Yup. We're gonna get it together.

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<v Speaker 3>No check in on us, hold us account.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, And I think while our media has been

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<v Speaker 1>looking at ankles and looking at bruises on hands, the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the world has their eyes on something else.

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<v Speaker 1>The United Nations twenty twenty five Global Report on Food

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<v Speaker 1>Crises landed with a thud. It said two hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>ninety five million people are at crisis hunger levels. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there are a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>make up that number that are in Gaza right now,

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<v Speaker 1>experiencing absolutely horrible circumstances. And my heart just breaks every

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<v Speaker 1>time I see any updates on the news. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>we really need to draw attention to and need to

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<v Speaker 1>be talking about more absolutely. The UN report specifically highlights Gaza,

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<v Speaker 1>South Sudan, Haiti and Molly Right. Yes, we have extreme

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<v Speaker 1>weather events like droughts and floods, but conflict and economic shocks,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the primary factors. Those three things for the

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<v Speaker 1>rising hoss for the rising hunger levels, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is the sixth consecutive year of increasing food insecurity.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna put some links in the show notes if

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<v Speaker 3>you're looking for something that you can do to help

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<v Speaker 3>with this hunger crisis.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, we have a global lens. And then I think

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<v Speaker 1>here in the US, what we're also seeing is legislation

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<v Speaker 1>that's being proposed to cut our Supplemental Nutrition Access Program

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<v Speaker 1>or SNAP by roughly thirty dollars a month per in

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<v Speaker 1>roly So, groceries are only going up. And now we're saying, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you need assistance, we're gonna give you less assistance.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that thirty dollars, that's four gallons of milk or

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<v Speaker 3>a week's worth of school lunches just disappearing from a

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<v Speaker 3>family's budget.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, I don't know about you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am very fortunate to be in the position

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<v Speaker 1>that I have not been hungry in a very long time, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's easy to forget about what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's say you go a day you haven't eaten and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, I feel lightheaded. That's because your blood

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<v Speaker 1>sugar is tanking, right, your adrenaline is spiking. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you get past that, we start talking about three days

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<v Speaker 1>in your body is already pulling from muscle, okay, pulling

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<v Speaker 1>from muscle for protein for its regular function. Then we

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<v Speaker 1>start talking about weeks, your gut lining things, and that

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<v Speaker 1>leads you to infection, stuff like that, immune cell production,

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<v Speaker 1>things that keep you healthy, fighting against other things. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you have severe hunger like that, we know that

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen in isolation. You are properly exposed to the elements.

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<v Speaker 1>You're exposed to more things that can cause infection, and

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<v Speaker 1>now your system is weaker. And so when we move

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<v Speaker 1>into a month, we're talking about all the way down

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<v Speaker 1>to your bones, bone marrow. The fat in your bone

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<v Speaker 1>marrow begins to drain, your red blood cells are not

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<v Speaker 1>being produced, or those factory stall, and there are MRI

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<v Speaker 1>studies that show you start to lose brain volume. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The other thing is like you can't just say, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody's been starving or they're hungry and been so hungry

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<v Speaker 1>for a really long time. Now we're just gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>them all the calories, because if you give feed them

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<v Speaker 1>too fast, that can be fatal.

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<v Speaker 3>And kids feel it the fastest. It leads to stunted growth,

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<v Speaker 3>delayed cognition, and in the long term you find that

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<v Speaker 3>kids that struggle with food security make less money. Pregnant

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<v Speaker 3>folks higher calorie demand plus nutrient deficits means that you

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<v Speaker 3>will have smaller, less healthy babies. Hunger is an inter

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<v Speaker 3>generational science experiment no one consented to. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 3>just puts everyone in a tough predicament and it has

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<v Speaker 3>ripple effects. It's not, like you said, happening in a vacuum,

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<v Speaker 3>and is not just happening to that one generation because

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<v Speaker 3>there's epigenetics. We know that from old famine studies that

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<v Speaker 3>we're done. And then you have to think that these

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<v Speaker 3>people not just sitting in a room being hungry. They

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of them still have to work and go

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<v Speaker 3>to school and juggle a lot of other things. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of stress that's also wrapped up in that.

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<v Speaker 3>It just all of us is just crippling. It feels

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<v Speaker 3>really terrible, particularly at a time where we think about

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<v Speaker 3>organizations like USAID being slashed, you know, or completely done

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<v Speaker 3>away with, because what we know is that conflict blocks

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<v Speaker 3>the regular transit paths for food and grain you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and there were USAID programs that were specifically meant to

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<v Speaker 3>feed hungry populations or people who are living in food

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<v Speaker 3>crisis areas, and with the dismantling of USAID, all of

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<v Speaker 3>those programs were immediately stopped, and so millions of children,

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<v Speaker 3>millions and millions of children, millions of people are dying

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<v Speaker 3>because of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the key thing, you know, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>this can feel really overwhelming, and it can be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to look at that, but we have to.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no way you can solve a thing until you

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<v Speaker 1>look at it or even begin to address it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think something that's been really interesting and nice for me

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<v Speaker 1>to know is that just donating a few dollars. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I may say like, okay, I have five dollars, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you have five dollars, what are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>do with that at the grocery store. But at your

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<v Speaker 1>local food bank, because of different deals and wholesale buying,

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<v Speaker 1>five dollars can be stretched to twenty or twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>dollars at your food bank. Monetary donations are the way

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<v Speaker 1>to go.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>There is some uplifting or some positive science on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a lot of genetic engineering to create

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<v Speaker 1>food that can survive different conditions. Lately, there's been a

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<v Speaker 1>push to kind of tweak the basic machine of plants,

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<v Speaker 1>so editing the enzymes that are responsible for photosynthesis in wheat, maize,

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<v Speaker 1>and soybeans so they can keep growing even as we

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<v Speaker 1>continue to see you heat waves becoming more and more common.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we don't have time to talk about it today,

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<v Speaker 1>but at some point, please y'all google course with so

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<v Speaker 1>we're not just thinking about genetic engineering being meat grown

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<v Speaker 1>in a petri dish. Sometimes food innovation is just a

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<v Speaker 1>hearty or resistant plant, something that can resist what climate

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<v Speaker 1>change is throwing at it.

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<v Speaker 3>And guess what. All of them are chemicals. The stuff

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<v Speaker 3>you get out the ground, everything is a chemical. So

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<v Speaker 3>chill chill, chill, chill. So sometimes it takes a whole

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<v Speaker 3>community to solve a problem, and we need to think

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<v Speaker 3>of ourselves. We say this all the time on this show.

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<v Speaker 3>We need to think of ourselves as a global community

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<v Speaker 3>and do our part to make sure that everybody has

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<v Speaker 3>a life that they can love and that they are

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<v Speaker 3>thriving here on this planet Earth. It is so so

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<v Speaker 3>important we are all here together. We all share this

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<v Speaker 3>Earth and I want it to be good for me,

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<v Speaker 3>good for you, good for everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Amen.

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