1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jettiating and he. 4 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm Strong and Getty. 5 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 3: The Iranians do not have control of the Straight. We 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: have absolute control of the Straight. We have blockaded the 7 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 3: ships going into or out of Iranian ports. Their economy 8 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 3: is in free fall. And everyone says they have the 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 3: high tolerance for pain. Well, their soldiers will not have 10 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: a high tolerance for not getting paid. 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a stretch. I stood up for 12 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,520 Speaker 2: the blockade of the blockade earlier in the show because 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: I think that is a very clever move, and I 14 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: think it's gonna work. They blockaded the Straight, so we 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: blockaded them. They can't get anything out either, because when 16 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: they blockade the Strait, they were still letting their oil 17 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 2: get out. They were making more revenue after the war 18 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: started than before the war started. That was no good. Well, 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: they ain't making no revenue now at all. But I 20 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: think for Scott Bessen, the Treasury Secretary, to say we 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: control the Strait is a bit of a stretch. If 22 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 2: we controlled the Strait, like actually fully controlled it, there'd 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 2: be one hundred and fifty ships going through every day 24 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: like there were previously. Right now, two in the last 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: forty eight hours that I'm aware of. 26 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could control Interstate eighty by dumping fifty tons 27 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: of cement in the middle of it. But then it's 28 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: not a highway. So yeah, stretch who here's the whole 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: soldiers and don't appreciate getting paid. That would take a 30 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: while to really work its way into something of significance 31 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: because they got a gun at their back. 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: Right, here's Trey yinkst of Fox with a little more 33 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 2: on where we are. 34 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 4: Tension continues to rise across the Middle East as iron 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 4: fires on vessels in the Persian Golf. This comes as 36 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 4: the United States is escorting ships that are currently tracked 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: in the Golf through the Straight of Horror moves as 38 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 4: part of Project Freedom Overnight. Setcom Commander Admiral Brad Kruper 39 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: described the extensive US firepower protecting the operation that does 40 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 4: include fifteen thousand. 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: US service members. 42 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 4: I spoke yesterday with President Trump, who told me if 43 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 4: Iran attacks US vessels, they'll be blown off the face 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 4: of the earth. 45 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, right after we got off the air yesterday. So 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 2: the UAE got attacked hard by Iran, their number one 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 2: port for getting oil out in them making money. Iran 48 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 2: bloaded up and the UAE seems to have reached their 49 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: end of patients on that and one of UAE's most 50 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: prominent voices drew a parallel to October seventh. The leading 51 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: commentator commentator for the UAE said, Iran will regret regret 52 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,119 Speaker 2: May fourth, just as Hamas did after October seventh. That's 53 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: a promise, not only a great comparison, but also a 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 2: nod of alliance with Israel. That is very significant. Good point. 55 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 2: So you cross the line, you're gonna pay a heavy price. Yeah, 56 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: And then making the comparison to Israel. That that's interesting. 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: An Iranian strategist threatened the the UAE by saying, we 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: will send the Emioradis back to their camel writing days. 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: That's an unfortunate stereotype. There prove of that. So their 60 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: version of Bomba'm back to the stone ages. We're gonna 61 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: send you back to your camel writing days. 62 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: Why I gotta my guess would be is that we, Israel, 63 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: the UAE are all just coordinating and there's going to 64 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: be a giant attack this week that'd be my guess. 65 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if we're trying to nudge MBS over some 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: sort of line and telling them, look, this is the 67 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: new coalition, this is the new reality. You got to 68 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: be in one hundred percent because it's time. It's time 69 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: to bring in the two thousand pound bomb of wool 70 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: bass and finish this. 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what ain't gonna happen. Iran is not 72 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 2: gonna send those gazillionaire princes in the Arab Emirates back 73 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: to the camel riding days. That ain't gonna happen. Seems unlikely. 74 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Another thing that's unlikely to happen is Iran saying, 75 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: you know what, we should sit down at the bargaining 76 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: table and good faith and come to an agreement that 77 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: opens the Gulf and restores. 78 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: Peace to the region. Please. What a show. I hate 79 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,159 Speaker 2: the Uranians, but that's a good one. 80 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: Coming up is Vladimir Putin, the man who broke Russia. 81 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: Nobody's talking much about the situation in Russia right now, 82 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: but things are dark. 83 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what was I watching that had a good report 84 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 2: on that? At war today. Ukraine has been very successful 85 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: in recent weeks reaching deep into Russia. All the way 86 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 2: to Siberia with some of their drone attacks, and it 87 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: looked like Russia was not going to have their normal 88 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: early May patriotic celebration May fifth, wise May fifth the 89 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: big day for Russia. I don't even remember why, but 90 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 2: they're supposed to have a big get together that they 91 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: were not going to have. And Zalinsky very cleverly said, 92 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 2: yesterday I heard you canceled there. I'll tell you what. 93 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: We'll hold off of the drone attack so you can 94 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 2: go and have your head, you have your parade, which 95 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: is a cool thing to say. 96 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: I thought, wow, wow, that was very tweaking the nose ish. Yes, 97 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: all right, So more on Russia after a break, also 98 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: this hour, and this is a completely different flavor. Five 99 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: things mosquito experts do every summer to avoid getting bitten. 100 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: You have to be a mosquito expert. What's a mosquito expert? 101 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 1: No, you don't know. Oh, here's the point. The people 102 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: who know the most about mosquitoes. This is what they 103 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: do so they don't get chewed on. Well, it's not 104 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:11,239 Speaker 1: chewed on, per ses, pulp, punctured, penetrated by the evil beasts. 105 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 2: So we'll have that for you this hour as well. 106 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: I hate seeing a mosquito on me. Oh well, that's 107 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 2: deep in our brain because it's the most deadly animal 108 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 2: on the planet. Had to remove a tick from my sweetheart. 109 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 2: You didn't have to. 110 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: It's not like I should. Okay, that's a different responsibility. Yes, 111 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,159 Speaker 1: oh you know, that's right. I meant to squeeze this in. 112 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do it tomorrow. The report on how miserable 113 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 1: things are in Portland as another progressive government is absolutely 114 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,360 Speaker 1: ruining itself. I feel like the case has been made 115 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: so thoroughly. Who could have possibly missed it? But the 116 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: answer is the places that elect these people. 117 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 2: I guess. Let's see what do we have. 118 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: Here's a political story, because I don't want to rush 119 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: through the Russia thing, Russian through Russian news. 120 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: We were talking about the poll numbers that were out yesterday. 121 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Trump disapprovals YadA, YadA, YadA, thirty seven percent approval everybody. 122 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Every seventy six percent of people disapprove of the cost 123 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: of living. And if that's the case, practically nothing else 124 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: matters in politics. But I think we were perhaps guilty 125 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: of missing the forest for the trees. I went back 126 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: at the looking at the chart and its overall approval, 127 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: cost of living, inflation situation with iron relation with allies, 128 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 1: the economy, taxes, the immigration, specifically US Mexico border. 129 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 2: Policy, blah blah blah upside. 130 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: Down in every single category, every single one, including the 131 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: US Mexico border orly because the master deportation thing struck 132 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of moderate folks as ugly. 133 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 2: And it might be what you just said, when gases 134 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 2: is high, you suck at everything is just the way 135 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 2: you feel. 136 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and when inflation is up nothing else matters. True, Dad, 137 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: Why did they ask cost of living and inflation is 138 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: different questions? 139 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've never understood that. 140 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't get economics, might as well ask him 141 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: about I don't know something they know nothing about. 142 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 2: I don't feel like the inflation thing's going to turn around. Well, 143 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: some of it can't turn around. And then. 144 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: All right, does the Russian bear have his mighty paw 145 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: in a trap of his own making? 146 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 2: Stay with us? I have another commentary on the cost thing, 147 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: but I'll save it because we'll be talking about it 148 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: again over the rest of our lives. Unfortunately. True. Yes, 149 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 2: So back to the Russian bear in the trap. Yes, 150 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: that next stay here, Okay, I got the details on this. 151 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to start get back, getting back back 152 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: into following the Ukraine Russia war, as I have not 153 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: been keeping up on it a lot. So Russia's Victory 154 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Day parade is May ninth. It's a big deal. They 155 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 2: have every single year celebrating their victory over the Nazis 156 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 2: in World War Two, and they usually bring out all 157 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: their military stuff onto the street there in Red Square. 158 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 2: Putin has been talking about a sea, calling us for 159 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 2: a cease fire so that they could have the parade. 160 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: That's what Zelensky chimed in on the other day. He said, yeah, 161 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: we could allow you to have your parade. I guess 162 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: you know, basically like you can't unless we let you. 163 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: But Putin did announce that for the first time in 164 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 2: eighteen years, Moscow's Victor Day parade will feature no military 165 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 2: kit as Putin's paranoia continues over being attacked by Ukrainian 166 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 2: drodes during the parade, So not going to have any 167 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: of their military stuff out there in the parade, hoping 168 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 2: that that'll keep Zelensky from attacking it. Wow, that's a 169 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 2: good position to be in. 170 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that paranoia quote unquote factor is into the 171 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: next story, But first found this very compelling Walter Russell 172 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: Mead writing about how Vladimir Putin may well be remembered 173 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: as the man who broke Russia, and how surprising that 174 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: is because for a long time he made fools of 175 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: the West. He outmaneuvered them in every way. Invasion at Georgia, 176 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: Ina to twenty fourteen, seizure of Crimea, much of the 177 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: Don Bas, the revival of Russian power in the Middle East, 178 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: like when Obama walked away from his Red Line in Syria, 179 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: Russia moved in, took charge there. They've established like the 180 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: Lukashenko government in Belarus, which has now gone. They advanced 181 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: Russian power taking away French power in Africa. You remember 182 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: the whole what they It flitted out of my head, 183 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: the whole of the Wagner group with the bald headed, 184 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: hard ass progressions, Pregosian right. Yeah, who is projecting Russian 185 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: power and effect? I mean he was way, way, way 186 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,559 Speaker 1: on the front foot. But then, as Mead points out, 187 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: but then the master of the Kremlin made a critical error. 188 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: Ukraine wasn't a real country, he reasoned, It's people weren't nationalists, 189 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: its government was a hollow shell which turned out to 190 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 1: be completely wrong, underestimated every aspect of that. And then 191 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: he gets into how, you know the Russian spring and 192 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: summer offensives could still push Ukraine into a crisis. 193 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: You don't know. 194 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 1: But even if Putin's stalemated army regained some momentum, the 195 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: war's gone on so long, costs so much, and weakened 196 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: the sinews of Russian power so severely that any victory 197 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: will indeed be periker do you say, Pyrich The more 198 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: likely outcome, an agonizing stalemate that continues to chew up 199 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: Russian manpower and economic resources threatens Putin's grip on power 200 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: and the future of Russia itself. And then he goes 201 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: into after that peak that we're describing, Putin's been watching 202 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 1: the decline Russian influence all across Europe. Victor Orban just 203 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: lost in Hungary, that was their closest European ally. Putin 204 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,720 Speaker 1: may now have to watch helplessly as Hungarian investigators aid 205 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: their Western colleagues tracing the flows of Russian dark money 206 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: into European businesses in political circles. Meanwhile, Europeans found the 207 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: financial means to keep Ukraine in the war can likely 208 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: shore up Ukraine for the foreseeable future. Putin's seen the 209 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: decline of Russian influence against the rest of the post 210 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: Soviet space. Armenia and Azi bayer Jan are now actively 211 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 1: cooperating with the West. Some Central ash Asian republics rather 212 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,959 Speaker 1: have now closer economic times with China than with Russia, 213 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: and they're welcoming the expansion of various pipelines that are significant, 214 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: but I won't go into the details. Bashar al Assad 215 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: fell from power in Syria. Russia has been unable to 216 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: exert significant influence over military diplomatic events in the conflict 217 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: between the US and Iran. Their African adventure is not 218 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: going well at all, huge setbacks there. Meanwhile, the Ukraine 219 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: War is exacerbating Russia's demo demographic decline. Hundreds of thousands 220 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: of military age men have been killed in the war. 221 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: Hundreds of thousands more, including many of their best educated 222 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: young men, fled the country to avoid being fed into 223 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: the meat grinder. 224 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 2: Just crazy that the terrible, terrible trends. You would think 225 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: that that would come to a head at some point. 226 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well it's all heading in one direction right now. 227 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: And then this is from newser dot com who wrote 228 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: this article. I don't I'm not familiar with the author, 229 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: but I'll let you be the judge of how compelling 230 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: it seems. Uh Russia's president is increasingly running his war 231 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: from underground, according to The Financial Times in CNN, based 232 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: on European intelligence, literally underground. The Federal Protective Services sharply 233 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: tightened security under around Vlad, rising fears of a coup 234 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: or assassination attempt, particularly by drone. Putin and his family 235 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: have reportedly stopped using some residences near Moscow, with the 236 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,320 Speaker 1: president spending weeks at a time in bunkers, while state 237 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: media relies more on pre recorded footage. M good security 238 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: units now patrol the Moscow River conduct extensive sweeps, while 239 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 1: recent internet outagies in the capitol are seen by some 240 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: as tied to anti drone defenses. Bah bah bah Okay, Yeah, 241 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: Ukrainian drones I was just reading about this have penetrated 242 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: a lot of Moscow's defenses that Moscow felt were impenetratable, 243 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: and the drones have gotten through. 244 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: So he is feeling more paranoid about an attack on 245 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: him personally. 246 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, A lot of the the air defense systems that 247 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: have been so completely outmatched and devastated in Iran are 248 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: from Russia. And so if Ukraine could ever come up 249 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 1: with significant bulk, I've got to believe they could. They 250 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 1: could make quite a bit of hey with those attacks 251 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: as they are now and stepping it up. 252 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 2: So that parade is gonna happen on May ninth, which 253 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,800 Speaker 2: is four days from now, And will there be explosions 254 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 2: at the parade? Will there be Putin at the parade? 255 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: Does Zelensky thing, Yeah, that's a good one. If he 256 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 2: doesn't show himself at the parade, that's not a good look. 257 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 2: And does Zelensky attack a parade full of uh, you know, 258 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 2: civilians lining the parade route? Certainly Russia doesn't have any 259 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 2: problem doing that to him. They gotta have a decent 260 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: Putin stand in right body double supposed to be bunches 261 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 2: of them. Yeah. I haven't thrown a ball cap, sunglasses, nobody, 262 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: Oliver know. When I was in Moscow in January two 263 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 2: thousand and seven, gladys, thank you, there was a Putin 264 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 2: look alike outside of the Kremlin and you could get 265 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: your picture taken with him. Crazy in a couple of ways. 266 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 2: One this guy looked exactly like Vladimir Putin. But two 267 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 2: that it was just such a different time as recently 268 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 2: as two thousand and seven, where it was just kind 269 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: of funny. Oh, Putin's just kind of you know, he's 270 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: an elected president who will leave office at the end 271 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: of his term and kind of a friend of the 272 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 2: United States, and it's a different country. How's that brief 273 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 2: period of time where the world they're liberalizing. 274 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I think Russia is like the highest level 275 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: of don't go. 276 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 2: There at this point, Americans. You certainly would not do 277 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: the vacation I did. 278 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would love to, but I wouldn't. Yeah, Okay, 279 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: coming up, mosquito experts tell you how to avoid getting 280 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: those pesky mosquito bites. 281 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 2: The mosquitoes don't particularly like me. They don't hate me, 282 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 2: like as in, they won't sting me, but bite me 283 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 2: in or whatever it is. But I'm not near as 284 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 2: bad as like my one of my kids just gets 285 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: eaten alive if they're mosquitos outside. 286 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, my wife gets bitten. I don't know if she 287 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: gets bitten more than me, But they like swell up 288 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: like crazy. It's a much more significant thing. I get 289 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: a mosquito bite. I think it's gonna age for a 290 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: little while, but no. 291 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: It's thank it's because of my diet. I just taste horrible. 292 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: Probably probably so Yeah, Yeah, you're toxic, right, Donald's and 293 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: jas so toxic. Nobody wants it? Okay, All that's on 294 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 2: the way if you missus, Shiv and get the podcast 295 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Getty on demand. Armstrong and Getty Day coming 296 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 2: up on the open Ai Elon Musk scam Altman trial. 297 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: And Elon is a very confident dude. If what he's 298 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 2: saying is true, he is in good shape for this trial. Yeah, 299 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 2: that one came out kind of hot a. 300 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 1: Few days ago. I'd kind of let it to slip 301 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 1: away from my attention radar. So good update on that 302 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: coming up. Uh promised it here it is. I remember 303 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: learning this as a kid. I got it wrong. I 304 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: was quizzed what's the deadliest animal on Earth? And I 305 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 1: went with beaver, alligator, mosquito. Clearly, it's not even close. Yeah, 306 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: mosquito is killed people through carrying disease, usually malaria, deng 307 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:11,920 Speaker 1: gay jack malaria, certainly West Nile virus. Me neither, sir, 308 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: they tell me, sir. Anyway, I'm not gonna go all 309 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: click baity on you. You're probably not going to die from 310 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: anything you get from mosquito in the United States, probably, 311 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: but they're unplaying af as the kids say, particularly if 312 00:18:27,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: you swallow ups like crazy, like my wife does when 313 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: she gets a bite. Although longtime friend personally and of 314 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: the show, Dave said his son had that and for 315 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: whatever reason, Back Team prevented the swelling. He doesn't know 316 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: what the science is, and Dave is a very He's 317 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: not a whack adoodle new age curry guy. 318 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: He said it really worked for his son, so humble 319 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 2: back Team who knew anyway. 320 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: So mosquito experts jack entomologists. They don't like getting bit 321 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: anymore than you do. And here are the five things 322 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: they do to minimize mosquito. 323 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 2: But number one, stay inside. That's a good one. 324 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: We're really long clothes, dressed up like you're exploring the moon. 325 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: The first one is is obvious, but it is easy 326 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: to forget. Eliminate standing water in your yard, go around puddles, 327 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: overturned plants, old tires. 328 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: Line love a stagnant pond. I just I love that 329 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: rainbowy color you get on top of it, and it's 330 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: been sitting there for a long time, right the way 331 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: it smells. I just like them a wheelbarrow. That was 332 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: the problem always had at the farm. Forget the whalebarrow 333 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 2: sitting out there and filled water and just be full 334 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 2: of mosquito eggs. You gotta turn that bastard upside down. 335 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: Bang right, Yeah, anyway, where was I? 336 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: Oh, the bases of potted plants. That's another good one. 337 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: You got, like the the dessert plate under the plants 338 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 1: and anyway, blah blah blah. So that's important because that's 339 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: where they breed, and they breed really quickly. 340 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: So dump that dump that stuff out. 341 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: If you can't get a rid of standing water, consider 342 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: b t I jack. 343 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 2: For standing water. 344 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: The campy emptied like your yard has a fish pond. 345 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: A larvacide containing BTI basillisther ingenious A subspecies Isareelianies. 346 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 2: As you know, may be helpful condescending to act like 347 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: we didn't know that these. 348 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: Products contain a bacterium that kills mosquito larvae in the 349 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 1: water and are very safe. BTI bacterium produced toxins that 350 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: specifically target mosquito black fly. No need to bring race 351 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: into it and fungus, gnat larvae, and is not harmful 352 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: to other insects, humans, birds, fish, or other animals. 353 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 2: Well, when I was in a teenager in Once Again 354 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 2: Gladys one more time and you're in overtime, you get 355 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: time and a half. You have to play. Well. When 356 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 2: I was a teenager in rural western Kansas, a big 357 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 2: truck spewing out almost certainly cancer causing clouds of anti 358 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: mosquito stuff would drive through town and all the kids, 359 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: we'd all run through the cloud of mosquito spray. 360 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: Did the same thing as a kid did this. I 361 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: can still smell that smell. 362 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 2: I mean I can too, and it was not a 363 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: good smell other than putting a forty five in your 364 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: mouth and pulling the trigger. It's hard to picture a 365 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: worse idea. What a different view we had in the 366 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,120 Speaker 2: world back then, because none of the parents were saying, hey, 367 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: don't do that. That's poison for mosquitoes. You don't need 368 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: to run through that and breathe it. But no parents 369 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: were saying that. 370 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: I think I remember my mom's saying, that's probably a 371 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: bad idea, you need to stop doing that. But I mean, 372 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: probably a bad idea. Again, it's practically a suicide attempt. 373 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 1: All right, So number three apply deep pick a ridden 374 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 1: or oil of lemon eucalyptus repellent. You know, I've got friends, 375 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: and particularly the gals who we hang out with, are 376 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: very much into their essential oils than lemon oils and 377 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: eucalyptus to keep the bugs off. I'm like, give me 378 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: the most horrendous output. 379 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 2: Of America's factory. I agree. I want that. 380 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: I want stuff you can only get in North Korea. 381 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: All right, That's what I want on my skin. 382 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: Anyway. 383 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 1: Indeed, is the best thing to prevent biting, says the 384 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: professor of biology at the University of Washington. Developed by 385 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: the US Army in the forties and suppresses sense. The 386 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 1: mosquitoes have a harder time smelling humans. You probably didn't 387 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: know that. A lot of so called repellents, including the 388 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 1: kind of naturalistic stuff. It's that the mosquitoes can't sense 389 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: you're there and that they want to munch on you. 390 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't literally repel them as much as it blinds them, 391 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: which I found really interesting. 392 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: Do some people just smell worse like people that don't bathe? 393 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 2: Do they get more mosquito bites or fewer, or maybe 394 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 2: you can't tell because you've got so many lice biting. 395 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh jeez, what the hell? 396 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: H disgusting, and now everybody's going to itch for the 397 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: rest of the days. 398 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 2: I'm particularly I'm picturing a particularly dirty person. Ah well, yes, indeed, 399 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 2: they should. They should be more Clinton. Why are you 400 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: looking at me? 401 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: What was I going to say? You've completely nuked my mind? 402 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: All right, we'll move on. Turn clothing into a shield. 403 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: When spending time outdoors in musquino prone settings, such as 404 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 1: while gardening or doing yard work, wear long pants and 405 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: long sleeves that leaves less skin that you have to 406 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: put repellent on. 407 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: Do you want to know? You want to? You want 408 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 2: at some point to hear the grossest thing I've ever heard? No, No, okay, Michael, 409 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: you had get a vote too, Go ahead. Oh no, 410 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 2: you've betrayed me, Michael. And I know if Katie was here, 411 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 2: she said, hell yeah, let's hear. 412 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: She would say, are you gonna Oh my god, I'm 413 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: trying about all right, I will say one more thing, 414 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: then you can decide on it. I am a super 415 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: big fan of the like Lightweight Columbia makes good clothes. 416 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: You know, I've got some stuff from uh what's the 417 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: other like Eddie Bauer. Uh, it's like they call him 418 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: guide pants or whatever. Super light, super stretchy, but they 419 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: keep the damn bugs off you in the sun off 420 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 1: you too, anyway. 421 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 2: Uh. 422 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Strategy number five use fans and spatial repellence in outdoor 423 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: living areas. 424 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 2: Uh, fans because they're not good flyers. 425 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Spatial repliants are devices that create a protective radius. These 426 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: devices also called spatial emanators. Thermoicell makes one. I've always 427 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: been skeptical that those are fake, but they often have 428 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: rechargeable batteries and amid just a small amount of a 429 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: chemical that will deter the mosquitos from coming into an area. 430 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: If you're going to be eating outside and staying in 431 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,160 Speaker 1: one place, I think that they can create an effective 432 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: bubble of protection around you. And again, these are entomologists 433 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,120 Speaker 1: who study mosquitos, so I guess those things are real. 434 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 2: What the heck? Kick me off on? How about it? 435 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: There's a mosquito? Yeah, what have you decided? So this 436 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: is apropos of nothing other than me bringing up dirty people. 437 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: And every time the story of people who aren't clean 438 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: comes up, I think about this because I heard it 439 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 2: first hand. It was from the medical professional who told 440 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: me the story, So it's firsthand, but you're hearing it 441 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: second hand, but it's always stuck in my and uh, 442 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 2: it's really gross. And if you don't want to hear gross, 443 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: turn off the radio for a little bit. I guess 444 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 2: I have a bad feeling. He had a very overweight 445 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: patient that came in for some sort of health problem, 446 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: and he always had when she came in because and 447 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 2: he felt bad about this, but she smelled so horrible 448 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 2: it was difficult to like deal with her. How about 449 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 2: that happens a lot. That's that's sad. Yeah. Anyway, the 450 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: problem was around her abdomen area and her very very large, 451 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 2: big woman boobs were covering her abdomen area, so he 452 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: had to ask her to lift those up. Oh boy, 453 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 2: And there was a tremendous amount of mold growing underneath 454 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 2: her boobs. Boo boom mold. Oh no, you don't want that, 455 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: And that's what was causing her to smell some bed. 456 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about you, folks, I was actually braced 457 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: for something worse than that. 458 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: What's worse. I feel a feeling of relief. Can you 459 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: make up something, make up something worse than that. 460 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I can't, but I won't because I 461 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: have restrained. 462 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: I don't think I can make up something worse than 463 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 2: that boob mold. Somebody whose boobs are so big an 464 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 2: hang down as she doesn't clean herself. 465 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: That the mold is growing under the sub boo mold. 466 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: I'll bet it was h I'll bet the scent the 467 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,960 Speaker 1: ah what he said. I could hardly stand to be in. 468 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: The room with her vomitous the hell an aggressive scent. 469 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: Oh golly, that's a bad way to be il what 470 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 2: moldy is the bay to be? 471 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: I had a two for for you, the second half 472 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,919 Speaker 1: of which is quite cerebral, and it's an analysis of 473 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 1: how the state of Utah is trying to deal with 474 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: bums and junkies and not in the cal Unicornia way 475 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: of just or you know, Seattle, Portland whatever, make them 476 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: as comfortable and happy as possible. But they're running into 477 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: all sorts of problems, which does not mean it's not 478 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: worth doing it. And we will talk about it tomorrow, 479 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: I damn it, I swear we will. But I was 480 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: gonna parroent with this vagrant in the East Village of 481 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: New York who has been called the smelliest man in 482 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: New York City. Ah, he's a vagrant junkie with no 483 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: control of his bodily functions, and he's become infamous in 484 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: that part of New York. 485 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:39,959 Speaker 2: Wow, that's worse than boom Mold. H it's such a 486 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: different thing. 487 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, this description I will not read to you. 488 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: Good do that which is heard cannot be unheard? Do 489 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: they not notice that themselves? Like a boom moold lady? 490 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,479 Speaker 1: Didn't she in the car? Sometimes think what is that? 491 00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: Is there? 492 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 2: Donald or something? 493 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: The fascinating thing about smell is the longer you smell something, 494 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: less you can. 495 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: See through your mind. Uh compensates somehow. Yeah, smell rose. 496 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: Smell a rose for thirty solid seconds, and by the 497 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: end it'll be like, why was I so uh enthralled 498 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: by that thirty seconds ago? 499 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: It's weird Or having worked in lots of feed lots 500 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, you don't even notice it at all, 501 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: which is a blessing. Yeah, you did latest from the 502 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:37,959 Speaker 2: scam altmn elon must trial and nothing like the preceding stuff. 503 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: Not a bu tell you the word dripping factors. 504 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 2: But that's all I'm going to say you have that's all. 505 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to say, year old. In terms of the 506 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: one with restraint, that Stanford Marshmallow thing on impulse control 507 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 2: or whatever, you would fail that. Oh oh right, I 508 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 2: do love a marshmallow. You don't have the ability to 509 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 2: hold back child. Heye, stay tuned. So the outlines of 510 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: the trial are this. Elon Musk says that he and 511 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 2: sam Altman. Elon really started and he came up up 512 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 2: with the financing and the name and everything like that 513 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 2: for Open AI, and he and Altman, sam Altman built 514 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 2: it together with the idea that this is going to 515 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 2: be a nonprofit, the first big AI company in the 516 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 2: world is going to be a nonprofit. It's going to 517 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 2: be open to everyone, so we can see what's going 518 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 2: on with AI. He says that Sam Altman started to 519 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: try to make it a for profit company to become wealthy, 520 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: and that's when Elon left. And now they're in a 521 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: lawsuit and all that sort of stuff, and Elon wants 522 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 2: one hundred and thirty billion dollars and an apology or something. 523 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't know what that is. The name that gets 524 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 2: left out a lot is this guy Brockman he is 525 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:59,040 Speaker 2: the other dude, Kent Brockman, I, for one, welcome our overlords. 526 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: Forget what the guy's name is. First name is doesn't 527 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 2: that doesn't matter. Brockman and Altman are the guys that 528 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: started or they're still with open Ai. Some questioning yesterday 529 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: by Elon Musk's lawyer with Brockman revealed his stake in 530 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 2: open aiy is now worth close to thirty billion dollars. 531 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 2: This Brockman dude's worth thirty billion dollars woof, and that 532 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 2: he holds a stake in multiple companies that do business 533 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: with open Ai, which would tend to make you not 534 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 2: completely uninterested in how open ai is doing relative to 535 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 2: your other companies anyway. Leaning heavily on Brockman's diary entries, 536 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: which I wanted to break in here and say, oh, 537 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: if you have a diary, can can they access that? 538 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: How does that work? How does anybody have a diary 539 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 2: if something goes wrong that the government or whoever can 540 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: grab your diary and start reading entries. It's a written record. 541 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: I need to know more about that. I thought that 542 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: was interesting. 543 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: Leaving guess if they get a search warrant for any 544 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: materials relevant dot dot dot. 545 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 2: Then why does anybody keep a diary? Leaning heavily on 546 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: Brockman's diary entries, Elon's lawyer tried to paint Brockman as 547 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 2: motivated by money at the expense of open Ay's nonprofit mission. 548 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: He presented one entry in which Brockman wrote to himself, financially, 549 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 2: what's it going to take to make me a billionaire? 550 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 2: What you really wanted to be was a billionaire? 551 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 4: Right? 552 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: Mullo ask based on the diary entry Brockman, So do I, 553 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 2: Rockman replied, Solving for the mission has always been my 554 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 2: primary motivation remain so today, the mission being, you know, 555 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: an open AI company that will help the world. Damn, 556 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: I'm so sure I believe that. Here's the interesting thing 557 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 2: that came out yesterday though, two days before the trial started, 558 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 2: which would just be two weeks ago, Musk message Brockman 559 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 2: to gauge his interest in settling the case. According to 560 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 2: an open AI filing released before the start of testimony, 561 00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: which I feel like undercuts Elon a little sense. I 562 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 2: thought he was trying to let the world know how 563 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: these scumbags took a not for profit philanthropic organization and 564 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: turned it for profit if you're just going to take 565 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: the one hundred and thirty billion dollars or whatever you 566 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: settle for and nobody learns this, I don't know anyway. 567 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: After Brockman suggested that both sides drop their claims, Musk 568 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 2: responded with this threat. By the end of this week, 569 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 2: you and Sam will be the most hated men in America. 570 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: If you insist so it will be, Musk said, according 571 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 2: to the brief, Wow, I will make you the most 572 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 2: hated men in America. I actually don't think enough people 573 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,960 Speaker 2: are paying attention or care or understand what AI is 574 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 2: to be. Make them the most hated men in America, 575 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: but maybe the most hated men in the tech world. 576 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. If you could work. 577 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: In like a hot Hollywood starlet and a dog that 578 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: was missing for a couple of years and made its 579 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: way home, you could get America to pay attention. But 580 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: I don't think this is sexy enough. 581 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 2: Elon is asking the court to remove Altman and Brockman 582 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 2: from their leadership roles at open AI, and also a 583 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 2: he wants one hundred and eighty billion dollars that he 584 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 2: thinks belongs to him, but so that's his goal. Maybe 585 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 2: the settlement, I guess would have included that you guys 586 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: step down, we don't have to go through this whole 587 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: thing and you end up being hated by everyone. They 588 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 2: apparently are not as worried about being hated as Elon 589 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 2: thinks they are. During one entry from November of twenty 590 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 2: seventeen that Elon's lawyer showed to the jury, Brockman wrote, 591 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 2: by the way, another realization from his this is that 592 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: it'd be wrong to steal the nonprofit from him, to 593 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: convert to a B corp. That's a profitable corporation without him, 594 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 2: that'd be pretty morally bankrupt. And he's really not an idiot. 595 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: That's a pretty damning entry. 596 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say that gun's got a little smoke coming 597 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: out of it. 598 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: I mean, that might be the whole trial right there 599 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: is Brockman had said to himself that this would be wrong, 600 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: morally bankrupt, and that they were taking it from a 601 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: nonprofit to a for profit business. Ms. Brockman actually went 602 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: on to say in the diary entry that it would 603 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 2: be hard for him to look at himself in the mirror. 604 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 2: That's some dam had some damning testimony. I wish I 605 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: hadn't written that. Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. 606 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: Let's get a little that final thought from everybody on 607 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 1: the Cruder aptings up to the day. Michaelangelo, you will 608 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:40,760 Speaker 1: lead us bravely into the future. 609 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: What's your final thought? 610 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, guys, in the last forty minutes you mentioned mosquitoes, 611 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: which made me itch. You mentioned broog mold, and then 612 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned people with no bowel control. 613 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to the ang Fear Factor show. Yeah, no kidding, Yes, sorry, 614 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: uh Jack. A final thought for us, I think we're 615 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: going back to full on war and it's gonna be US, 616 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 2: Israel and the UAE at least pounding the crap out 617 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,000 Speaker 2: of Iran. I'll be shocked if that doesn't happen this week. 618 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,400 Speaker 1: Katie Katie the Newslady is on maternity leaves. My final 619 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: thought is this future historians, when you're writing about our 620 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: age and what went terribly, terribly wrong, the key with 621 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: key phrase is going to be you couldn't get anyone 622 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: to pay attention to what was important. 623 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought of that. I was watching CBS News 624 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: last night, eight minutes in to a twenty two minute newscast, 625 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:33,920 Speaker 2: eight minutes in before they got around to the war 626 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 2: in Iran, which is important. They had some YouTube videos 627 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: of a plane hit in this or that, all stuff 628 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,080 Speaker 2: that has no effect on you whatsoever, before they got 629 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: deep into the news and started covering anything that matters 630 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 2: not Good Armstrong in Geeddy wrapping up at other grueling 631 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: four hour workday. 632 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: So many people, thanks so little time. Good Armstronggeeddy dot com. 633 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,879 Speaker 1: Check out Hotlengths, check out the swag store. 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