1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,240 Speaker 1: What is Russ given as a thirteen fourteen year veteran 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: that Jackson just can't give you yet? 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 2: Or is it? 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,559 Speaker 3: Well, I think the obvioct Like it's the thirteen fourteen 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: years of playing. You got a guy who's never played 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: in a real NFL game versus a guy who's played 7 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 3: in a lot of them. You know, that experience is 8 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: just great. So, yeah, it's the experience. 9 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 2: I mean, did you see that like in the practice field? 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, you see. 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: I think you see that naturally everywhere, not just in 12 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: the meeting room, down the halls, on the sidelines, and 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:37,239 Speaker 3: like I said in the spring, I think after we 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 3: took Jackson, when when you're a rookie, not only are 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 3: you trying to figure out everything football wise, but I 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 3: mean he's also trying to figure out where to live. 17 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 3: How do I get to work every day? What's what's 18 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: the route I take? You know, Where's where are the 19 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: places I go to eat? Now? Like, so just take 20 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: football out of it. His whole off the field life changed. 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 3: Whereas Russ is at thirteen to fourteen or veteran, that 22 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: stuff kind of comes a little bit. 23 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: Easier, don't that stuff? 24 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, here you do though the scenery might change. 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 3: But Russ has lived on his own. Jackson's never lived 26 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 3: on his own, you know, So those things, those things 27 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 3: all add up to It's it's not just football, it's 28 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 3: it's life. These guys are people. They have things going on. 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 3: That's a big life change for a twenty two year 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 3: old as probably as opposed to a thirty four year old. 31 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 4: It looks like he kind of has connected with Tommy 32 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 4: and what's that relationship like the two of them and 33 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 4: how much Yeah, what do you see from that. 34 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 3: Perspective, I would say they've all get The great thing 35 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 3: about that room is they've all connected really well, from 36 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: from Russ to Jamis, they've had a relationship in the past, 37 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: to Jamis and Tommy to Jackson, Tommy and the other two. 38 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: It's a fun room. They all kind of hang out. 39 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 3: I know they went to Russ's event last night, all 40 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: four of them. So it's just a positive thing to 41 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: see all four of those guys get along and ways 42 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: of fun to watch them interact because they're they're very 43 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,480 Speaker 3: different personalities they are, and I think that's why they 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 3: compliment each other so well. They're just like not getting 45 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 3: too much into it. I mean meetings are fun. You know, 46 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 3: they can banter back and forth with me, with them 47 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: with each other. They know when it's time to be 48 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 3: serious in work. They know when to give tidbits to 49 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 3: each other on things that they've seen in the past. 50 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: There's just a really good chemistry with all four of them. 51 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 5: A decision's career. Russ knows what works for him, but 52 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 5: how do you go about assessing what works for a 53 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: young quarterback? Like in New England Josh McDaniels wants to 54 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 5: put everything on Drake May's plate and Washington Cliff's like, 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 5: let's bring them along more slowly. How do you guys 56 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 5: view that philosophically? 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: I think you view it as every situation is different. 58 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Speaker 3: There's no cookie cutter way to you know, put in 59 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: an offense with a rookie quarterback. I think you want 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: to do stuff to where the ranks of your team, 61 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: the other ten guys are, you know, put on display. 62 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: But what does the quarterback do as well? So it's 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,239 Speaker 3: a blend of those two things. So yeah, you take 64 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 3: what he's done well in his past, what have we 65 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: done in the past, and how can we bring those 66 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 3: those things together? And I think and I don't think 67 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: that changes with just a rookie. I think that's the 68 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: same with Russ, Jamis, Tommy, all those four quarterbacks. While 69 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: they might like the same concept, there are different nuances 70 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 3: to that. So you always try to, you know, play 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: to their strengths no matter who's in. And then also 72 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: what your team does well. So there's a blend with 73 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 3: those two things. 74 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 5: I think you guys have talked a lot about this 75 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 5: plan for Jackson. How do is what he's shown in 76 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 5: the preseason either impact that or kind of change what. 77 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 3: You are doing with them? I don't think it changes 78 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: too much. You know, there's you don't you want to 79 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: trust the process of of what we have I think 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 3: with him, just as long as you continue to see 81 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: the steady growth, you just stay on that path, don't 82 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: try to alter it too much. The good thing is 83 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: is when you do see the steady growth, like okay, now, 84 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: can we push a little bit more in terms of 85 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: just putting another thing on his plate, like hey, let's 86 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: all right, that was the first evolution, let's go to 87 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: this one. And if that keeps going, then you keep adding. 88 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 3: But just in terms of, you know, the expectations and 89 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 3: what we want him to do and all of that. 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 3: I don't think that changes in the games that he's 91 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 3: played that he did really well. Just his his poise, 92 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: his compactness in the pocket, his eyes down the field. 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 3: He's trusting what he sees out there. He's doing a 94 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 3: good job of just trusting the offense, knowing where he's 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: supposed to go with the ball, and getting through things quickly, 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 3: which is just what you want to see. 97 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 5: Side of that, I guess, or that you guys have 98 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 5: talked about maybe. 99 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,039 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's always when you're out there for 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: the first time and maybe running a play the first 101 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 3: time against you know, a live defense, just some of 102 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 3: the little details, you know, whether it's emotion, whether it's 103 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: getting out of the huddle a certain way, whether it's 104 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: you know, taking keys from the defense, of where your 105 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 3: eyes start when you get up to the line of scrimen. 106 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 3: It's just little things like that that you can drill 107 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 3: as much as you want, but when it gets out 108 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 3: there and it's live, you might have to give a 109 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: little reminder like, hey, don't forget about this, oh yeah, 110 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: because there's a million things going on before the snap, 111 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 3: you know, and you just got to focus on what 112 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,400 Speaker 3: the important things are where you should be, what you 113 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: should do, and so i'd say those things. 114 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 6: You've been a coach for a long time, so I'm 115 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 6: not I want to be clear, I'm not asking you 116 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 6: when Andrew Thomas is coming back that stable, but like, 117 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 6: have you been in a situation where guys only had 118 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 6: like a guy, a good player like that, has only 119 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 6: had two or three practices before the season and you're 120 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 6: comfortable throwing him out there. 121 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: Off the top of my head, I don't. I don't 122 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: necessarily have that answer for you, and I wouldn't know. 123 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't try to speculate on what the status is 124 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 1: they really trying to keep that like you said with. 125 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 4: This, yeah, yeah, I understand. 126 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 6: But when you have with his resume, does that make 127 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 6: it easier to like not get out of much of 128 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 6: a summer? 129 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: I don't. 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I would say that, you know, any player requires practice. 131 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: Andrew Thomas is one of the best tackles in the league. 132 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think you can probably thread the 133 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: needle a little bit in that, you know, one side 134 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: of the coin versus the other. 135 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 4: What have you seen from bo Bo smart? 136 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: He's versatile, he's got great feet, he has pride in 137 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: the fact. 138 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: That he wants to be good, which is good a motivator. 139 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: He's also a rookie, so there's some of those kind 140 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: of young player developmental things or mistakes or you know, 141 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 1: hey it doesn't work when I do this, then don't 142 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: do this, you know. But he's also not afraid to 143 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: try different things and when you ask him to do it, 144 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: or he might try something he's done in college and 145 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: we say, hey, keep that and keep doing that, or hey, 146 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: we're not necessarily fans of that. I don't think it'll 147 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: work in my experience, and he buys in and he 148 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: does it. So a lot to like young player, a 149 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 1: lot of potential. 150 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 7: He's been kind of bouncing back and forth between the 151 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 7: two tackle spots. Why Saturday did you just keep him 152 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 7: at left tackle? 153 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: I mean, just how things kind of worked out for that, 154 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: and I think just get an opportunity. 155 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 4: To evaluate him over there. 156 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: He played primarily in his career at right side, so 157 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: he's played plenty of practice reps that left. 158 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 4: But games are different. 159 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 8: When you talk about offense line mean, sometimes scouts will 160 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 8: say that guy likes to finish his guy into the dirt, 161 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 8: or he likes to almost for lack of a bedterm like 162 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 8: embarrass his guy. 163 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 6: Do you see that from bow Like it feels like 164 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 6: he's always trying to knock his guy over. 165 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: I think one of the manchers I thought of a group, 166 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: the thing we could do better this year was was 167 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: just finish. We've been talking about trying to play, you know, 168 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: longer than the man with the football. I think you've 169 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: seen good buy in from the entire room in that regard, 170 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and I think we've been pleased with that. Both certainly 171 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: has fit that bill and this is doing it as well. 172 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 4: So it's good. You agree he's had a strong hand. 173 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, a talented player. Like I said already, you know, 174 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: there's things that he. 175 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 4: Can improve on and it will with time. He would 176 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: expect it. 177 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: He's got good ability, He's smart, and we enjoyed working 178 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: with him. 179 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 7: He's like with a lot of guys in there at 180 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 7: right Guard with GVR like he you know, he gets 181 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 7: a couple of series and then he sits out a couple. 182 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 7: Just how do you view that position? Is that managing 183 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 7: he's workload is like giving other guys a showcase. 184 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a bit of everything, you know, I 185 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: mean just obviously with the every rep that counts for 186 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: Evan as far as getting in at the guard's position, 187 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, just for him coming from tackle. 188 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 4: So I think it's definitely part of that. 189 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: And then this is the fourteenth year, for the fourteenth 190 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: camp for Greg van Roten, So there's sometimes I might 191 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: look at a script and say, you know what, he 192 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: might not need that rep. Let's give it to somebody 193 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: else and I'll pop them in, pop him out. Hey, 194 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: you know what, he needs every one of these and 195 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: he takes, you know, a ten rack in a row, 196 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: which he's done. So it's just a matter of making 197 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: sure that everybody has gotten an opportunity with those reps. 198 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: And then you know, it's also about communication of getting 199 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Jermaine and JMS comfortable talking to other people as well. 200 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 7: Could you envision a rotation at a right guard? 201 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I would speculate on anything what 202 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: it is. I'm sure we'll have a big meeting here 203 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 1: after this game. We still get today's practice and tomorrow 204 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: before training camp officially breaks. 205 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 9: In my mind along with that, and again like how 206 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 9: what guys are transition from your experience? How how long 207 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 9: does it take you guys to kind of get comfortable 208 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 9: from what you've seen to just depend on the player, I. 209 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 4: Think it would be an individual basis. 210 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you can necessarily say there's a time 211 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: stamp on one thing or the other. 212 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 4: I mean, Ivan definitely has traits that ring themselves well 213 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 4: to guard and would just continue to develop them. 214 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 9: Instance, does that make it like does he have to 215 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 9: kind of like get to speak quickly as a matter 216 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 9: of you guys giving some grace to say, hey, he's 217 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 9: still learning this even though we need him, but knowing 218 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 9: he's gonna take some time to transition. 219 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:40,679 Speaker 10: A little bit. 220 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, what's your question? 221 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 9: The question was like, do you give him, I guess, 222 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 9: grace to kind of catch up to that or do 223 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 9: you understand, Hey, do you even grace to kind of 224 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 9: learn to learn the position still or is it still 225 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:51,320 Speaker 9: he's got to get to speak quicker. 226 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's pro ball. We've got to be 227 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 4: ready to play. 228 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 11: You know what did you guys iron out between the 229 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 11: joint practices and the game and pass. 230 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 10: It seemed like the. 231 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 11: Start of joint practice with the Jets, it was a 232 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 11: struggle in pastor at first, but then it seemed like 233 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 11: you guys held up really well. 234 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 4: No. 235 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, like anything, you'll have good days and bad days. 236 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: You can't you can't think that you've got it all 237 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: figured out. You also can't think that the sky is falling. 238 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 10: You know. 239 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: You kind of kind of stayed pretty consistent. We had 240 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: a few poor reps that can can you know snowball 241 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: and I think that maybe what you saw in a 242 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: period and I think, you know, I. 243 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 4: Did a poor job of having them ready to go. 244 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: To start a practice. So you self reflect as a 245 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: coach of Okay, what drolls or what can I do 246 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's a speech, whether it's a drill, 247 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: whether it's not a drill, to make sure that we're 248 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: you know a little more prepared to start the practice. 249 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 3: Just with JMS, what have you seen from him? 250 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 4: And you know, has he taken a step forward? 251 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 10: You know this this this kind. 252 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think a year three now for John Michael. 253 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: We saw a big step from him last year. 254 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 4: And I think there's more to go. 255 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: I think one thing people don't realize these guys come 256 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: he comes from a big ten program established Minnesota, but 257 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: they still get stronger. Like I mean, and he's only 258 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: twenty five years old, Like he's gonna he hasn't reached 259 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: his peak or strength yet, you know, so any cares. 260 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 1: So he's gonna keep working and improving his body, which then, 261 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: in tune, hopefully helps him, you know, be a little 262 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: better football player. But I see a player that's a 263 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: little more filled out physically, and then it just has 264 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more experience another year under his belt. 265 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: So he's done everything we've asked, and we're pleased. But 266 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: you know, like my mind is, you know, please have 267 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: been not satisfied. Blind and think of temper It can 268 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: be good and bad. I think I think they'd probably 269 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: grudgingly say that they like it, you know, but at 270 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: the same time, I mean, it pays a toll, you. 271 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: Know, use it all game or you can. I mean 272 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: I think we did so, I mean technically you can. 273 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, he. 274 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 3: Probably asked us high it coming back. 275 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 11: Uh, Well, I thought he did a nice job the 276 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 11: other night, you know, had some opportunities there and put 277 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 11: some wins on tape, do a nice job. 278 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 10: You know. 279 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 11: He's just coming back here, like you said, after missing 280 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 11: a little bit of time. 281 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 10: But I thought he'd performed well the other night the 282 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 10: same stuff. 283 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, continue to put wins on tape where 284 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 11: you're supposed to be, when you're supposed to be there, 285 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 11: Make the play when they come to you. Make make 286 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 11: some if he has an opportunity to make a contest 287 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 11: to play like go and attack the football and come 288 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 11: down with those kinds of plays and be physical in 289 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 11: the run game. So everything the receiver's supposed to do right, 290 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 11: nothing different. Yeah, Collins, I did just answer that one, 291 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 11: but yeah, I think it was in a nice job. 292 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 10: You know, he's uh. 293 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 11: Done a good job since he got in here. He's 294 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 11: very bright, and he's got a skill set. He's got 295 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 11: good length, he's got height, good speed, ball skills, can 296 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 11: get in out of his breaks. He's uh, you know, 297 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 11: played very good fundamental football and been assignment sound and 298 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 11: he's got position flexibility and the mental flexibility to be able. 299 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 10: To handle it. 300 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: How about what have you observed Montreal? 301 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 11: I mean Montreal has kind of shown up. I know 302 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:05,200 Speaker 11: He's quote is make a play a day, and you 303 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 11: know he's been able. 304 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 10: To do that. 305 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 11: He's maximized his opportunities, which is what you have to 306 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 11: do when you're fighting for a roster spot when the 307 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 11: balls come to him. He's made some plays. Is some 308 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 11: things that I think he could could have improved on. 309 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 11: And we've talked about those things and he's very conscientious 310 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 11: and you know, he didn't really make the same mistake twice. 311 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 5: Can you take us through that pass from Jackson to 312 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 5: THEO the other day from each of. 313 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 12: Their Yeah, it was a you know, it was a screen, 314 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 12: good call, good timing of the call, you know, the 315 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 12: timing of it from really everybody from THEO to Germaine 316 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 12: to the Line being able to get out was perfect. 317 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 12: And then Jackson's ability to change his arm angle and 318 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 12: to give a ball and Theo's ability to find it. 319 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 12: That's not always the easiest thing. You're expecting it up here, 320 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 12: and when he drops the arm angle, you know, having 321 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 12: to adjust to it and find it. He did a 322 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 12: good job being able to secure it and then got 323 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 12: behind the box and let genetics take over. So it 324 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 12: was those guys that are great to everybody, did you know, 325 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 12: the Line and THEO, Jackson, they all did a great jobs. 326 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: Keepingnut THEO now versus the a year ago, totally totally different. 327 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, same same person, you know, same mindset, 328 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 12: a very prideful guy, physical, you know, wants to win, 329 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 12: wants to do everything to help us be as good 330 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 12: as as a football team as possible. So nothing's changed there. 331 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 12: I think the speed of the game has slowed down 332 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 12: a little bit for him, which I would say is 333 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 12: probably the case for most second year players. They've they've 334 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 12: seen every look, they've seen every coovery. She played a 335 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 12: lot of ball for us last year, so I think 336 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 12: the mental part of it is kind of slowed down 337 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 12: for him. 338 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 10: And now that now, now. 339 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 12: That's allowing the physical, you know, details to kind of 340 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 12: take over there. 341 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 10: For how do I have to win this block? 342 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 12: I know what I'm supposed to do, Now how am 343 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 12: I supposed to do it again? I think that's a 344 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 12: jump most second year players make is they're not so 345 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 12: much worried about what they have to do, but how 346 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 12: how can I go out and do it? 347 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: The physical as a pass catcher is a lot there. 348 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 12: Yeah, he's he's he's a large human being who runs 349 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 12: very well. He's got a weird body, but like he's 350 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 12: got the ability to contort it and he's. 351 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 10: Got great body control, huge hands. Yeah he does. He 352 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 10: does a lot of things really well for us in 353 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 10: the basket. 354 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 12: What kind of body you say, it's a he's got 355 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 12: he's gonna get pissed off. He's got really long legs, 356 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 12: so like if you ever watch him walk, he like 357 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 12: kind of has a weird gait, and you've got, man, 358 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 12: this guy's. 359 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 10: Not athletic, but then he goes and runs and you're like, 360 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 10: holy smokes, he's got to fly. So he's got a dip. 361 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 10: But he's got a. 362 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 12: Different body type, so he's got to do things a 363 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 12: little differently in order to get in and out of 364 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 12: breaks or get in and out of blocks or things 365 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 12: along those lines. So you know that that's been an 366 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 12: adjustment for him because he can't just go on all 367 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 12: people like he used to, so he's had to learn 368 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 12: how to kind of. 369 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 10: Deal with some of those things and still go out. 370 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 4: And when do you think he was just starting to 371 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 4: get it when he got hurt. 372 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: Yes, year, you know you could see it right. 373 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 10: Yeah. 374 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 12: Again, I think that's kind of the the same concept 375 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 12: we were talking about as far as like being able 376 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 12: to understand what what I'm supposed to do and then Okay, 377 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 12: now how can I go out and do it better? 378 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 12: And and he was kind of right there, and you 379 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 12: saw the production start to kind of increase a little bit, 380 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 12: so hopefully we can. 381 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 10: We can you know, pick up where he left off. 382 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: I mean, this league is full of big time tight ends. 383 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 4: You know, could he be one of them? 384 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 2: Do you think? 385 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, could he be a you know not just 386 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: though that's a nice compliment, you know what I mean, 387 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: nice little red zone, nice. 388 00:16:23,960 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 12: Little Yes, he's he's got all the ability in the world. 389 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 12: He's got the right makeup. The biggest thing is what 390 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 12: I tell him to focus on is like, give me 391 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 12: the best best version of yourself today, Like you don't 392 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 12: have to be anybody other than who you are. I 393 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 12: go out there, and if you do that, everyone's going 394 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 12: to be really happy. 395 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 10: Though. 396 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: You think you liked the tight end, you know, the 397 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: he went to the Yeah. 398 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that's a unique experience for those guys 399 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 12: to be able to go home kind of talk shop, 400 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 12: be able to pick the brains to some of these guys. 401 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 10: You know a lot of these a lot of these 402 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 10: guys are running. 403 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 12: Similar offenses or you know, take Kelsey for example, some 404 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 12: of the stuff that we run from Kansas City. You know, 405 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 12: he's got a bunch of you know, uh experience running it, 406 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 12: so being able to kind of pick their brains and 407 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 12: some of the different details. 408 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 10: That make them up that that can help them go 409 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 10: out and play better. 410 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 4: How much have you had Elijah Chapman in your room? 411 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 2: I haven't had Elijah Chapman in my room at all, actually. 412 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 6: Really, So how do you play fullback without without doing 413 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 6: any running back stuff? 414 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: Well? 415 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: He works with t K most of the time. 416 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 13: Okay, Coach Kelly with the tight end slash type bodies, 417 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 13: so I haven't. 418 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 2: I haven't had a chance to work with them. Okay. 419 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: Would you you are a former NFL running back? 420 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 6: Would you like to run behind that guy? 421 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 13: I would anybody that's going out there run through people 422 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 13: and hit people. I'm always a fan of So that's 423 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 13: been good. 424 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 14: What what have you seen from from Tyrone Tracy? I 425 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 14: mean you obviously were familiar with him and then you 426 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 14: get here. Uh as far as tape from last year 427 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 14: versus what he's shown so far this summer? What what's 428 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 14: do you send? You A big difference in where he's at? 429 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 14: Does it just a development? 430 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 4: I do? 431 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 13: I think you're seeing a player that's a little bit 432 00:17:56,119 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 13: more comfortable with the position, more confident, and obviously more confident. 433 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 13: Trace is good news for the Giants, right, But you know, 434 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 13: he started off playing running back, I think when he 435 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 13: was a youth, got away from it a little bit 436 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 13: nice back at it. So you're just seeing a more 437 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 13: confident player, guy that's getting used to the system, understanding 438 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 13: where the blocks are, where the intent of the plays are. 439 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 2: So he's just a more confident player. 440 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 14: Is that patience? 441 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 2: Is that awareness? 442 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 14: Is that both just the idea of knowing where the 443 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 14: blocks are, because it seems like he is setting up 444 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 14: his blocks a little bit more. I know it's a 445 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 14: small sample size this summer, but it does seem like 446 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 14: he's running with a little bit more patience, a little 447 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 14: bit more vision than maybe he did last year. 448 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: It's all the above. 449 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 13: I'm sure last year was a bit of a learning 450 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 13: curve for him, you know, playing running back really only 451 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 13: one year in college and then coming straight to the 452 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 13: pros and doing it again. So now you're seeing a 453 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 13: guy that's really three years removed from playing the position, 454 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 13: and now you get a chance to watch the film 455 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 13: practice it more going, you know, day in and day 456 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 13: out with their offensive linement. So you're starting to see 457 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 13: that cohesiveness, and like I said, that's a good thing 458 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 13: for the Giants. 459 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: If he's playing like that