1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: Help is on the way, at least defensively. God Zach Gerstman, 2 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Whipenberg Gang. 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: That's right. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: A midweek show was Zach the man in charge of 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: the injury reports, and Wednesday's was long, though there were 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: some encouraging signs, the biggest of which Walter Nolan the 7 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: Third Also Kyler Murray on the practice field, Marvin Harrison 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: Junior on the practice field. Limited sure, but good to 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: see one and eighteen participating on Wednesday. That and so 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: much more, including an early look at Packers coming to 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: town on Sunday. At Cardinals Cover two, Episode nine thirty six, 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: and it starts now. 13 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 3: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 4: Hoona Baker, What Heart? 15 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 3: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinal Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 18 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: dot com slash podcast. 19 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 4: He said a ten half of five. He's it again, 20 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 4: So more hurry magic. 21 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 3: Whow here's Craig Griler. 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 2: So I just can't escape you, Zach. 23 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: Tuesday, Red Sea Report, Wednesday Cardinals Cover two. But that's 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: not a bad thing. I'm just making I'm just making 25 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: the observation that you're here on a Wednesday. Typically it's 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Danny Surrek. She is, as we like to say in 27 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: the business, on assignment handling girls flag football later on Wednesday. 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's good to have you here midweek. 29 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 4: I filled in for Paul and to two of the 30 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: last games, and now I'm filling in for Danny. I 31 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: just you. You say you can't get enough of me, 32 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 4: But I feel like you're choosing this, Craig. You are 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: asking for this, and honestly, I don't blame you. 34 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 1: Well, I am asking. I'm putting in the request, and 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: you're you're you're. 36 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: Accept the request. I try to be a team player. 37 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: You are ar Jacoby present. 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 4: That's essentially how I put When I was applying for 39 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 4: this job, I said I could be the perfect backup quarterback, 40 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 4: just don't have the arm for it. Although although I think, 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 4: bar I'm sure you've seen what the Celtics did with 42 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: their media. I did fifty four to four whatever it was, yes, 43 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 4: fifty four to something. 44 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:25,239 Speaker 2: The media. 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 4: For those that are unaware of what we're talking about, 46 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 4: the Boston Celtics media corps was, I guess going to 47 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 4: have a scrimmage against each other, and Joe Mazzola, their 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: head coach with the Boston Celtics, said, you're not playing 49 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: against each other anymore, you're actually playing against the coaches. 50 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 4: And the coaches absolutely wiped the floor with them. So 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,519 Speaker 4: I had me thinking, like, if we had a media 52 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 4: flag football game, what position would I play? Because I 53 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 4: think you know not too. You know this is going 54 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 4: to be taking the wrong way because I'm one hundred 55 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 4: percent of minority. But my youthfulness, I feel like, give 56 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,120 Speaker 4: me an advantage for this team. 57 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's you're You're not wrong. So I'm just 58 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 2: curious as to where I would be. 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 4: Would I be the Marvin Harrison junior of this team 60 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 4: and you know, be able to go high point of football. 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 4: But I also my arm's not shot and I played 62 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 4: baseball back in the day. Now, granted I was high 63 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 4: school and it was at a Jewish high school, so 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 4: it's not like the crop of town was that great. 65 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 4: But so you're I broke the controller, this is great. 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: So you're comparing your athleticism to Kyler Murray and or 67 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison junior. 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: This is gonna be an all time I'm not comparing it. 69 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: I'm just saying I could try to fill that role, 70 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 4: fill the role. 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not sure. I'm trying to picture this in 72 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: my head. I'm trying not to picture it now. But 73 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: as I mentioned, you are the Jacobi Brissette, which would 74 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: mean Darren Urban is the franchise quarterback. 75 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: In that case. Yeah, but what's the fun in that? 76 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 2: That's true? 77 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, your next assignment, after you get done with 78 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: your advance for Saturday and before kick off on Sunday, 79 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 1: go ahead and list the Arizona Cardinals talent team as 80 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: far as what roles you would expect us to play 81 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: on this flag football team, because, as we know, flag 82 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: football is an Olympic sport. In twenty twenty eight, crack 83 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: and we have heard NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell say they 84 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: are going to be professional flag football leagues. So maybe 85 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: there's a team here in Arizona that Zach you can 86 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: be a part of. 87 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 4: All I'm saying is the center position I think we 88 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: have filled with Aq. I could be wrong, but we 89 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 4: know from when we did the girls flag broadcast together 90 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 4: he was very jealous at the fact that the center 91 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 4: could also serve as the tight end. 92 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 2: So it's a good call. 93 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: I forgot about Aq and Dave Patch what their roles 94 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: might be. So yeah, Aq snaps the ball. There's not 95 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: a better snapper in the state in my opinion, at 96 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 1: least for Aq. And then yeah, he would get to 97 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: live out his dream and go out and try to 98 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: attempt to catch a pass. 99 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 4: I think we're onto Sunday here. 100 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: Just stumbled upon it right here on the on Sense 101 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: of Cardinals cover twer are on this Wednesday for it. 102 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 4: You know, we talk about being observant. You know, we 103 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: have observed Jacobe Brissett sliding into a starting role in 104 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: the last week and performed quite well at that and 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 4: now we're just trying to figure out the rest of 106 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: the football that goes on in the state. 107 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 2: Didn't desist. 108 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: I'm open, you know, with with my collegiate ties. I'm 109 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 4: open to whatever. 110 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: Now, Okay, we'll put that on the back burner at 111 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: the moment here and then maybe discuss it at a 112 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: later date. 113 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 2: We're not way later. 114 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: We did not observe much Wednesday because there was no practice. 115 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: A walkthrough was held, not open to the media, but 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: there was both good news and I wouldn't say concerning news, 117 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 1: but good news bad news on the injury front. By 118 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: the way, why I walk through, according to head coach 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Jonathan Gannon, what's best for the team this particular week, 120 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: going into this particular matchup against the Green Bay Packers. 121 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: And I think we got an indication of why it 122 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: was a walkthrough because of how lengthy the injury report 123 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: was on Wednesday. Yes, even there was no practice, there's 124 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: still an injury report, just an estimation on who was 125 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: able or unable to do what you had planned for 126 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: that Wednesday, but an early indication of just how banged 127 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: up this team is. Here midweek to make sure that 128 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: one you get your rest, but more importantly, you get 129 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: that recovery so you can practice Thursday and Friday and 130 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: get ready for a game on Sunday before you hit 131 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 1: the bye week. 132 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 4: Twenty eight total players, and that obviously also includes the 133 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,479 Speaker 4: Green Bay Packers. Bo was an even split fourteen fourteen 134 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 4: players that were listed on the injury report. And it's 135 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 4: not like the Cardinals are a week away from the 136 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: bye week. They know that they're going to have an 137 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 4: opportunity to rest up their players during that time away, 138 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 4: which I think will be needed. With that being said, 139 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 4: you still need to try to get your guys out 140 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: there the best that you can. You can't just cancel 141 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 4: a practice or walk through still is going to provide 142 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: tons of value? Now is it going to provide more 143 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: value to some than others? 144 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: Sure? 145 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 4: I would love if it wasn't a walk through, so 146 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 4: you could see where Kai where Murray is at in 147 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 4: his progression, and how Marvin Harrison Junior is in a 148 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 4: practice that is a little bit more up tempo with 149 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 4: a little bit more speed to it. I would love 150 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 4: to see Walter Nolan the Third, who just had his 151 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: practice window open for the first time, be able to 152 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 4: throw on the pads. But I also do recognize that 153 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: that's a selfish thinking on our end for what this 154 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: team needs right now. They got pretty banged up in 155 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 4: the game against Indianapolis Colts. They have a very physical 156 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 4: Green Bay team that's coming to town. You want to 157 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: try to utilize whatever resources you have to just try 158 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 4: to ease them into it. 159 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: Here's the headline, then we'll kind of break it down. 160 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: But the headline, as you mentioned, yes, Kyler Murray on 161 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: the practice field, Walter Nolan the Third on the practice field, 162 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson on the practice full field on Wednesday. Let's 163 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: now just focus first off on the offense, and yes, 164 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: everyone wants to know about the quarterback. Nothing definitive out 165 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 1: of JG on Wednesday, but again practicing on a limited 166 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: basis on Wednesday, which is a good sign. We did 167 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: see Kyler practice on limited basis on Friday, ultimately inactive 168 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: against the Indianapolis Colts. What does it mean for his 169 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,119 Speaker 1: availability this week? I think he already mentioned it earlier, 170 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Zach Thursday's practice and then Friday's practice. Are you still 171 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: a limited participant but then again limited With Kyler Murray 172 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: and his skill set with a foot now, I know 173 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: what the reports are out there that it could be 174 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: a Liz Frank Kype type of injury, but are you 175 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: able to push off? I mean, we know he can 176 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: throw the football, we saw that last Friday going into 177 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: the Colts game. But how are you dropping back to pass? 178 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: How are you scrambling? Can you push off that back 179 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: foot in order to throw a deep ball or just 180 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: throw any ball with any kind of velocity to get 181 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: it to your pass catchers. That's the big question going 182 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: into this week. The mobility is a critical part of 183 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's game. It's what makes him such an unpredictable players, 184 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: and it's what causes nightmares for a lot of defensive 185 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: coordinators as they're preparing for K one to be out there. 186 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: If you eliminate that part of his game, sure he 187 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: could stay in the pocket and probably throw the football around. 188 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: That's something we saw during that one practice when he 189 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: was limited last week. But you eliminate a part of 190 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: his game that makes Kyler who he is. So you 191 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: have to be very smart about it because this what's 192 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: being described as kind of a mid. 193 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 4: Foot sprain right now. It's a sensitive part of the 194 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 4: body and for somebody that utilizes his legs and his 195 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 4: skill set, his speed as much as Kyler Murray does, 196 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 4: you need to make sure you're being smart about this. 197 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 4: You have the bye week on deck. There's a chance 198 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 4: that I mean, Jonathan Gannon said that if Kyler Murray's 199 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: healthy enough to play in the game, he's healthy enough 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 4: to play into He's healthy enough to play, and they 201 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 4: would have no problems trotting him out there. I don't 202 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 4: disagree with that, but if you're thinking about the longevity 203 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 4: of the season and what you might be getting out 204 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 4: of Kyler Murray, there's a chance that they're looking at 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 4: that bye week and they're saying, hey, we give him 206 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 4: now three total weeks to rest up and an extra 207 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 4: day because the game's on Monday Night Football that this 208 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 4: coaching staff says, well, we're gonna take our time with it. 209 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I'm just speaking from my perspective of 210 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,599 Speaker 4: what I think it could be, but it's still we 211 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: would have a very different conversation with Kyler. Murray was 212 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 4: not on the practice field on Wednesday at all if 213 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 4: he was listed as a DNP. But he's listed as 214 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 4: a limited participant, and we'll see over these next two 215 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 4: days what he ends up looking like. 216 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: Kyler one of ten different Cardinal players to be limited 217 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, including Marvin Harrison Junior in concussion protocol, but 218 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: was able to do something or estimated to be able 219 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,720 Speaker 1: to do something during Wednesday's practice slash walkthrough. Amario deMercado 220 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: did not practice dealing with an ankle issue, and Zay 221 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: Jones popped up on the injury report dealing with they need. 222 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: I don't remember during the game Zay even exiting the 223 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: field at all. We know Amari left in that game 224 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: against the Colts in the first half and certainly may 225 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: Bam Knight more of a factor as far as snaps 226 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: are concerned on offense, but to pay attention to hopefully 227 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: Marvin is able to go this week and then we'll 228 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: see about Zay Jones. The other thing offensively was you 229 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: are now down your top two best blocking tight ends. 230 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: The Cardinals made it official on Wednesday. Travis vocallec placed 231 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: on ir his season is done. Scary situation on Sunday 232 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. The good news was that he was able 233 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: to return back to Arizona with the team, had a 234 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: movement in all of his extremities. All we know is 235 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: that it was a neck issue according to the head coach, 236 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: and Josiah Deguara has been signed to the active roster 237 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: to give you help at that position. Now the trickle down, 238 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: you've got Trey McBride, you got Elijah Higgins, and then 239 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: there's a lot of unknown And what we saw on 240 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: Sunday was Trey and Elijah and Calvin Beachum. And I 241 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: think you're going to hear more of sixty eight has 242 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: reported eligible. Sixty eight is eligible because you need that 243 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: that extra body, that extra blocker on that offensive line. 244 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: If you hope to get this run game going, because 245 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: that's what this offense is all about. It's about the 246 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,599 Speaker 1: run game and having that extra blocker, I e. A 247 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: tight end, but you don't have Tip Priman. Now you 248 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: don't have Travis Vocalek, and those are your best blocking 249 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: tight ends on the roster. 250 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: There's so many different things that I would love to 251 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 4: unpack based off what you were saying. Because yes, Somaro 252 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 4: de Mercado is listed as a DMP with the ankle 253 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 4: injury he had, which put more on the plate of 254 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 4: Bam Knight and Michael Carter. Well, Bam Knight's also on 255 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 4: the injury report. He was listed as a limited participant 256 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 4: with the knee injury. How does that change things around? 257 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: You'll get your wide receivers, Your top three wide receivers 258 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 4: are all on the injury report right now. How does 259 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,560 Speaker 4: that change things around? Your quarterback is on the injury report, 260 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 4: and then you talk about at tight end and needing 261 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: to have that eligible lineman come in and Calvin Beachum. 262 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 4: This team has really been hit with the injury bug, 263 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 4: and it's been hit with the injury bug quite hard. 264 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 4: It's something that it's not an excuse. Every team is 265 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 4: going through it right now. 266 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: But it's tough. 267 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: It's tough to constantly have to try to figure out 268 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 4: the puzzle pieces that you're trying to that you're trying 269 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,720 Speaker 4: to put together as to what you could construct to 270 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: make this offense what it could end up being. Yes, 271 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 4: you are going to need a lot more of Kelvin 272 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 4: Beacham who was on the injury port peceless as the 273 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 4: rest day. That's a typical that's a Wednesday Wednesday. That's 274 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 4: a Wednesday tradition. At this point, you're gonna need You're 275 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 4: gonna hear a lot of the referee getting on the 276 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: mic and saying number sixty eight is your porting eligible? 277 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 4: Now if it's the officials we had a few weeks 278 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,239 Speaker 4: ago who struggled to say that it's a completely different conversation. 279 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 4: But we're we're anticipating that the referee could see Beach's 280 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 4: number out there, and he's gonna say Kelvin's name a lot. 281 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 4: And you start to see that a little bit, especially 282 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 4: in the jumbo sets that they were doing when they 283 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 4: would also bring John Gaines out there, and then you 284 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 4: knew it was gonna be an automatic run in those cases, 285 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 4: having Beach out there. It's an extra person, yes, but 286 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 4: it also still leaves you a little bit of an 287 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,319 Speaker 4: unpredictable in an unpredictable mode because you could still pass 288 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 4: with the with him being that additional eligible quote unquote 289 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: receiver out there. So Cardinals that offense, they're they're very 290 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 4: banged up the defense as well. It's a it's all 291 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 4: three phases. As Jag likes to say, you hope that 292 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 4: this Wednesday walked through could really serve them well. 293 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: By the way, Beach played twenty snaps against the Colts 294 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: twelve the week before. I went back and looked at 295 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: his Pro Football Reference page, and over fourteen years in 296 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: the league, Beach doesn't even have well, he hasn't he 297 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have a catch. He hasn't even been targeted over 298 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: his career. So I know Darren Urban's got a story 299 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: up on Asycardinals dot Com about it. I briefly talk 300 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: with Beach in the locker room, say hey, would you 301 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: want that opportunity? He's like, yeah, no, I'm a blocker. 302 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: So that's he doesn't want the ball. He doesn't know 303 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: he he understands his role. Even though Drew Petsing earlier 304 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: in the week mentioned how good Beach's hands are as 305 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: far as catching the ball and maybe wanting to pass 306 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: thrown his way. No, Kelvin beacham knows what he's good at, 307 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: and knows what he's not good at, and doesn't want 308 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: any part of the football being thrown his direction. Now 309 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I say this, and then all of a sudden, this 310 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: week or next week or whatever it is, all of 311 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, there's a target to sixty eight. Beach did say, Hey, 312 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: if it's gonna help us win a ball game and 313 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 1: it's what we need to do that particular week, sure 314 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: put me out there and let me run a little 315 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: quick out route or whatever, a quick screen or something. 316 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: But I do think it would be again for someone 317 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: who's been in the year league fourteen years, why not 318 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: get a target before you call it a career. 319 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: Well, I will say, if he does get the ball 320 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 4: in space, look I pray for that defensive back that 321 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 4: tries to bring him down because Beach is just going 322 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 4: to stop at nothing. Now we are getting very excited 323 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 4: about sting Nette likely is not gonna happen. But then again, 324 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 4: we never really know. You never you never really know, 325 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 4: And I think in this case, you need as much 326 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 4: as you can right now to try to make your 327 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 4: offense unpredictable. You're struggling the rushing attack, so you're anticipating 328 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 4: to throw the ball a lot more. With how close 329 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: these games have been, especially in the last few minutes, 330 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 4: the Cardinals have forced themselves to have to be in 331 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 4: known passing situations. Whatever you could do to try to 332 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: give yourself that level that puts the defense on edge 333 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 4: a little bit and doesn't let them be at ease. 334 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 4: Whatever it could be, you have to try to get 335 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: it done. So, hey, maybe an explosive to Beach's incoming. 336 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: We don't know, And here's why you know it's not. 337 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: The offensive line is so important, particularly this week. The 338 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers have the number one rush defense in 339 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: the league, allowing just seventy three yards a game, and 340 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: we know how much of a struggle it's been for 341 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: this Cardinals team to establish a consistent run game or 342 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: be more efficient. So, yes, what do you do if 343 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: you're there as on a Cardinals If it's a backup 344 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: quarterback with banged up wide receivers, with banged up running backs, 345 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you've got Calvin Beach him 346 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 1: out there a little bit more or maybe maybe it's 347 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: worth Elijah Higgins becoming more of that blocking tight end. 348 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,400 Speaker 1: How much has he improved his blocking game. Trey McBride 349 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: as well. But those two I put in the category 350 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: of the pass catching tight ends who might stay in 351 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: to chip or a little bit and then release, as 352 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: opposed to what we got from Tip and Travis. Vocalik agreed, however, 353 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: that might need to change correct. Yes, and that's where 354 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: Tip Trey McBride, one of the Tea's. Trey McBride is 355 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: going to be your pass catching tight end bar non period. 356 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 1: That's his role. 357 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 4: He will chip at the line of scrimmage and he'll 358 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 4: do whatever he can, and he'll obviously block every now 359 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 4: and then, and that's going to be something that he's 360 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 4: going to do. Of course, Elijah Higgins, it would have 361 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: surprised me if they try moving him into try sliding 362 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 4: him a little bit more into that tip rieman role 363 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 4: because of how solid he he is in the rushing attack, 364 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 4: in the run blocking attack, and potentially sliding Josiah Daguara 365 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: into that Elijah Higgins role that you were just talking about. 366 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 4: That would not be too far fetch from me because 367 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 4: during the preseason Josiah Deguara was kind of that played 368 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 4: the role that Elijah Higgins did. That's why it wouldn't 369 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 4: surprise me if if you see him a little bit 370 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 4: more in passing situations where he has the potential of 371 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 4: reeling in a pass, and you see a little bit 372 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 4: more of Elijah Higgins in the rushing attack, because I 373 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 4: don't think you could just abandon it. That's what you 374 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 4: created this offensive playbook around was the three tight end sets. 375 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 4: Now we know the numbers, especially in that game against 376 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks, they were only in thirteen personnel only 377 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: once or twice. I'm not sure how much different it's 378 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 4: going to be when you're going up against the next 379 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 4: number one rushing defense in the league. 380 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: Higgins six' three two forty, Five deguara six two forty 381 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 1: which you compare their size To Tip rymans six' five 382 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: two seventy One IN travis. Vocalec sixty so how you're 383 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,720 Speaker 1: built as far as what you. Can handle, but again, 384 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: roles change and they have changed very quickly For This arizona, 385 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: cardinals team. Especially offensively now let's turn the tables to, 386 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: the defense where there is some, good news hopefully a 387 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: lot of. Good News But darius robinson on the practice Field. 388 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: On wednesday he's missed the past two games. 389 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 2: Because of that. 390 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: Peck issue does he return? This week, and then of 391 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: course the headline and the story of. The day first 392 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: round Draft Pick walter nolan the third was on The. 393 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,640 Speaker 1: Field wednesday he had his practice. Window opened hasn't done 394 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: anything since the OFFSEASON MEANING o tas and, mini camp 395 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: but that window to see your first round talent on the, 396 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: practice field even though we didn't See, it wednesday well 397 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: hope to see It on Thursday. And friday but the 398 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: fact that he was out there with, his teammates because 399 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: if you're, on pup you can't. Do anything you're. A 400 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: spectator you can't even step foot on the field to 401 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 1: do any drills with or without or with. Your teammates 402 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 1: you can work, by yourself but you can't do anything 403 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: with your position group or the rest of. The team 404 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: so the fact that the window was Open allows walter 405 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: and on the third to get out there and at 406 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: least start that process to get his football legs underneath 407 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: him and then take what he's learned in the classroom 408 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: out on the. 409 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 4: Practice field similar to how we were Talking About kyler 410 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 4: murray when it comes to understanding the bye week and 411 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: with how close it is in your schedule, right now 412 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 4: that's probably something this staff has, thought about is just 413 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 4: trying To get, walter in get a few practices under, 414 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 4: his belt give him some time, to rest let his 415 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: body reacclimate to being a part of the padded, practice 416 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 4: scene and then try to give it another approach and 417 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: try to give it another try with bringing him. Out 418 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: there we Have seen walter at points throughout the facility 419 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 4: just kind of. Walking around he sometimes pops into the, 420 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 4: locker room and we haven't really seen much, of him 421 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,879 Speaker 4: but we've seen him at. Certain points last week he 422 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 4: was at, two Practices if i'm, not mistaken watching and 423 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 4: you saw something Similar With ball nichols just a few 424 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: weeks prior when he was the week before his practice window. 425 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 2: Was open he was out. 426 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 4: There watching i'm not saying we cracked, the code but 427 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 4: we might have cracked the code because that we had, 428 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,200 Speaker 4: that IDEA and i tweeted about it On my Twitter 429 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 4: Account Zac CAZy cards during, the game they were talking 430 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 4: about ON the tv Broadcast How johnathan, Gannon Said walter 431 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 4: nolan the third is getting close to returning and we 432 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 4: end up seeing only a few days later he's back 433 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 4: out on the. Practice field i'm Eager for thursday's practice 434 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 4: to see what he looks like back, in pads because 435 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 4: we also haven't just seen the guy. In pads players 436 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 4: look different when they're wearing the pads versus when, they're 437 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 4: not and you start to see that a lot with 438 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 4: a Guy Like, darius robinson who is just looks like 439 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: he was developed in a lab period and then you 440 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 4: throw pads on him and, YOU'RE, Like whoa like he's a. 441 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 4: Big dude you saw That With jordan birch. As well 442 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: that's something we have not Seen With walter nolan the 443 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 4: third because during OTAs when he was, out there they're not. 444 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 4: In pads they're just wearing. A Helmet so i'm eager 445 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: to see what what looks like once he gets that 446 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 4: extra layer under. His, jersey, still though whatever you could 447 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 4: do to try to ramp up, the process they're gonna 448 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 4: they're gonna be smart. About it they got twenty one 449 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 4: days to try to figure something out when they have 450 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 4: to reinstate him to the fifty three, man roster otherwise 451 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 4: they have to keep him on. The sidelines for the. 452 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 4: Entire Season but i'm Expecting for walt to be making 453 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 4: this fifty three sometime. 454 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: Pretty soon You Mentioned baalaal nichols and his practice window, 455 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: opened up and then he, was, playing yeah a couple of. 456 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: Days LATER now i completely missed on THAT because i 457 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: mentioned at, the time, here's someone and yes he's, a 458 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: veteran so maybe that was a little. Bit Different but 459 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: ballall had not done anything football related in a year 460 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: after he suffered that, neck injury and then he gets 461 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: a couple of practices and he's plug. And play the 462 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: difference Here with walter hasn't done any football activities since, 463 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: the offseason hasn't been in pads since he was a 464 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: college Player At. OLE miss i think he's going to. 465 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Need now it could be completely wrong HERE as i Was, 466 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: with BALLAAL but i think because what, You said walter hasn't, 467 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: done anything hasn't had a, padded practice hasn't felt WHAT 468 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: the nfl game is versus the. COLLEGE game i think 469 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: you're going to. 470 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: Need probably all. 471 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: Three weeks november fifth is when you have to make 472 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: that decision to either activate him to the, fifty three 473 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 1: and if, you don't then he remains on pup the 474 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,880 Speaker 1: rest of, The season so that Would put week ten 475 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: At the seahawks as maybe your target date to play in. 476 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 1: A game but then there's Also The will hernandez scenario 477 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 1: where you're added to the active roster but you're just 478 00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: there practicing because you need those reps before you can 479 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: become a player on the, football field giving you even 480 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: more time with. 481 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,200 Speaker 4: The player do you remember THIS something i would have 482 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 4: to go. Look up do you remember how Long after 483 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,159 Speaker 4: darius came back the second time how long he was 484 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 4: out FOR because i think he was two Weeks if i'm. 485 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 4: Not mistaken he had two weeks, of practicing not including 486 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 4: the one practice he, was at and then they ended up, 487 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 4: you know he ended up not practicing again for the 488 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 4: next considerable. 489 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: Remember correctly a year Ago, with darius so for the 490 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 1: calf injury before the start of the regular season gets, 491 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: PLACED on, i are the practice window OPENS and i 492 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 1: think he just practiced that one day and then basically 493 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: you didn't see him the rest of the time and that. 494 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: Practice window. 495 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: So That's what I'm what i'm saying is when they 496 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 4: brought him that. That, happened, yes afterwards main preparation for 497 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: the game Against The. Minnesota vikings i'm gonna look it 498 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 4: up NOW because i think that that's probably gonna be. 499 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 4: Their approaching granted to steal a Line From jonathan agannon 500 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: that it's a very different process with everybody's body and 501 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 4: the way that they. Handle INJURIES but i didn't surprise 502 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 4: me if that's a similar which kind of falls a 503 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: little bit more in line With The will hernandez approach 504 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 4: of trying to ease him back into things and let 505 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: him get his legs under him a. Little bit THAT'S 506 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 4: what i think that they're gonna. Go with but, Then 507 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,720 Speaker 4: again johnathan again it was asked about the mental side 508 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 4: of things for a rookie, coming in and he said 509 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 4: that he actually thinks well has an advantage because of 510 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 4: how much time he has spent in the classroom and 511 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,399 Speaker 4: doing a lot of different things that he thinks he 512 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 4: has a. 513 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: Mental Advantage The Darius Robinson walter nolan the. Third comparison 514 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 1: you have same. Body part yes it's a, calf injury 515 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 1: but you don't know how severe either. 516 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 2: One was we just know the. 517 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: Process To get darius back on the football field was 518 00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: kind of an up and. Down process Now with, walter 519 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: again it's what can? You handle how do you go through? 520 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: This walkthrough how do You handle? Thursday's workload how do 521 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: you feel Waking up. FRIDAY morning i just think because 522 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,360 Speaker 1: you haven't done anything and you haven't even worn pads 523 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: IN an, nfl practice that it's going to take maybe 524 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: even longer than just that, practice window especially considering, Next, 525 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: week zach it's a, bye week so how many how 526 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: many practices are they going to be on the practice 527 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,399 Speaker 1: field next week during The bye but this having the 528 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: window open Does allow walter to be on the practice 529 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: field even though he might not be. Full speed, window 530 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: closes he gets added to the fifty three, man roster 531 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: and maybe it's not, week ten but maybe week eleven or, 532 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,199 Speaker 1: week twelve because as you pointed Out With, will hernandez 533 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: yeah he was on the active roster, week one but 534 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: we didn't see him until, week five so and those 535 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: were valuable reps to get his legs underneath him and 536 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: then get that body callous to what it's going to 537 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: feel like. 538 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: And be ready FOR an. 539 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: Nfl GAME so i just looked it up real quick 540 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 4: over research live on. 541 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 2: The air good. 542 00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 4: For You the cardinals, last season They played week ten 543 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 4: Against The New. 544 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 2: York, JETS walter i Mean. 545 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 4: Not Walter darius robinson already had his practice window open at. 546 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 4: That point they needed to sign him to the fifty 547 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: three so that they didn't lose him for the. Entire 548 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 4: season at, that point he did not practice, at all 549 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: was out Against The New York jets. Week Eleven the 550 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 4: cardinals had to buy similar to situation to What Walteron 551 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 4: olan third is going through. Right now they had. To 552 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 4: buy So obviously darius was not out there to Start a, 553 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 4: week twelve which is When the cardinals Played the seahawks 554 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 4: for the first time in three weeks, or yeah in 555 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 4: that three, Week Stretch walt darius was out on the, 556 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 4: practice field was a limited participant at, each practice did 557 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: not play In that week. Twelve game, week thirteen was 558 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 4: a limited participant all week and was out on the 559 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 4: field Against The. Minnesota vikings so he had a total 560 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,439 Speaker 4: of six padded practices as a limited Participant Before darius 561 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 4: robinson was back on the. Football field there's a good 562 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 4: chance That the cardinals sees something very similar Here with 563 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 4: Walter and olan. The third they have this, walk through 564 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 4: they go what they go through this. Entire week maybe 565 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 4: he's a. Limited participant there's a chance he. Doesn't play 566 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 4: they'll have the bye week and then you'll have that 567 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 4: additional bonus Practice, that monday probably or whenever they'll have 568 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 4: it as they prepare for the For The dallas Cowboys 569 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 4: On monday. Night football he'll probably have about five padded 570 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: practices under. HIS belt i think that there could. Be 571 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 4: enough he's a very. Similar situation he's a. Rookie now the, 572 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 4: one difference the, Biggest difference darry's still had training camps 573 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 4: to feel what going UP against nfl offensive lineman. 574 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: Or Life the cardinals will be cautious as they are with, 575 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: all injuries and even more so with a first round 576 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: Talent As walter, nolan third a consensus First Team, all 577 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: american First TEAM all sec finalists For The. Outland trophy 578 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: that's What The arizona cardinals drafted with the sixteenth. Overall 579 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: pick we just haven't seen it in a practice during the, 580 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: regular season and this is now all of. A, sudden 581 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: yes everyone is Very excited walter is on the. Practice 582 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: field when will we see him in? A game i 583 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: do think it's going to be maybe a little bit 584 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: layer than. People want i'll raise. My Hand yet i'd 585 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: like to see him. THIS week i just don't think. 586 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,959 Speaker 1: That's Realistic And kalais campbell in the locker room post 587 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: walk through Practice on, wednesday, mentioned yeah Long Term, walter 588 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: nolan if he can, stay Healthy in, kalaius's words he's, 589 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: a stud he's. A beast, short, Term though kalayis, reminded, 590 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: everyone hey. Slow down you're excited to be on the, 591 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: practice field but don't let that overtake you and all 592 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden you're doing more than what your body. 593 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 1: Can handle, Day one, Day two. Day three this is 594 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: a process to get you back on, the field hopefully 595 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: this season for a good part of. This season but 596 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: a first round talent that's a long term play where 597 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: you hope you have, him, eight nine ten plus years in. 598 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: Your building you don't want to risk anything that would 599 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: set him back this season or even going into. NEXT 600 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 1: season i noticed In the week four game Against, The Seahawks, 601 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: walter nolan the third Stood By kalais campbell during his 602 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: entire pregame warmup and was watching how the eighteen year 603 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: vet works out. 604 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 4: Before they get ready. To go and then they walked 605 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 4: off the, field together and that moment has kind of 606 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 4: stuck with me that the Words of kalais is something 607 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: that a. Young rookie we've seen It With. Darius robinson 608 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 4: we haven't seen It with walter because we haven't Been 609 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: around walter enough to. See It but khalaius's, words STICK 610 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 4: and i think that for a, young player you're chomping at. 611 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 4: The bit you want to get. Out there you want 612 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 4: to show what you're, made of you want to prove 613 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 4: why you're a first. Round talent and for all the 614 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 4: critics that had something to Say About walter nolan prior 615 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 4: to his draft and just the entire thing surrounding, his 616 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 4: personality and clearly that was something that he has spoken 617 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 4: with us about about the frustration and the helplessness or 618 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: the helplessness of feeling that and you want to just prove, 619 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 4: people wrong and you haven't had that chance to. Do 620 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 4: that and now that there's already all these people calling 621 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 4: you a bus because you haven't even played a, game 622 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 4: yet because you've. BEEN injured I think kalaius is right, 623 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 4: long term he will be. 624 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,120 Speaker 2: A stud. 625 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 4: Short term they have to be smart, about It but 626 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: i'm curious to know if they've kept him on injured 627 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 4: reserve or on the pup list longer to make sure 628 00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: that he's at this point where once they throw him 629 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 4: on the, practice field there is not a doubt in 630 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 4: their mind that he is one hundred percent ready, to 631 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 4: go not that he's eighty, five percent and now they 632 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: could ramp. 633 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 2: Him up to. 634 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 4: One hundred i'm curious if he's at one hundred percent 635 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 4: right now and then they could slowly start to ramp 636 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 4: him up so that one hundred percent feels like you're 637 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 4: one hundred percent out on. 638 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: The field, good point because he's one hundred. Percent healthy 639 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,239 Speaker 1: the calf. Is healthy now. It's okay how long does it, 640 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: Take you walter to get your legs under you as 641 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: far as, football shape not not getting the calf, in 642 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: shape but what is it going? To take how long 643 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: is it going to take for you to get to 644 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: where you need to be on a game day as 645 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: Opposed to Monday. Through, SATURDAY yeah i think it's the 646 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: strength that's what's gonna be interesting for him is in. 647 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: The trenches. It's DIFFERENT and i remember that Something That 648 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: darius robinson was talking about during his rookie year was 649 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: just when you feel somebody's hands, on you. 650 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 2: Like that that's a. 651 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 4: Jarring moment the first couple of times that, it happens 652 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 4: you get to have that ramp up. In practice but 653 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 4: the ramp up is going to be very different because 654 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 4: you're likely going to be with that first team defense 655 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 4: that's going to be going up against the. Scout team 656 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 4: it's not going to be lining up Across From Paris 657 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:13,120 Speaker 4: johnson junior every single rep during practice because of the 658 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 4: way That the cardinals obviously are going to have. Things 659 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 4: organized i'm not, Sure though I'm just i'm very eager 660 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: to see what number ninety seven looks like once he 661 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 4: does get. 662 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: Out there third defensive tackle off the Board Behind mason 663 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: Graham And. 664 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 2: Kenneth grant, so. 665 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah a lot of Excitement about walter being on, the 666 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: field and we'll just now kind of monitor how long 667 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: it's it going to take before we see him in an. 668 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 2: Actual game one other. 669 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: Injury note by, the way defensive, line wise You the 670 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: cardinals are going to play this cautiously and they don't 671 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: need To rush. 672 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: Walter back they don't rush. 673 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: Anyone back But If darius robinson is back, this Week 674 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: below nichols back, this, week now all of, a sudden 675 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: you've got two main pieces as part of that five 676 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: to six man rotation along the defense, of line and 677 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: maybe you can take some more of the pressure off 678 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: Of A kalais Campbell Or dalvin Tomlinson And, adante stills 679 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: who have basically been your mainstays and your most consistent 680 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. To date, so AGAIN it's i would just 681 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: pump the brakes a little bit as Far, as okay 682 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be, this week next week's TO buye 683 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,959 Speaker 1: i don't even know that money night Game. Against dallas 684 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: if you see him on, the field. 685 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: This is a very different conversation than if It was 686 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: week five getting ready to play Against The tennessee Titans 687 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 4: when darius is out because he has his peck injury 688 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 4: and you're Unsure if boall is going to be playing 689 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 4: or not at. That point THAT'S what i. Feel like 690 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 4: we're kind of we think we're in, that moment but. 691 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 4: We're not the guys are healthy or they're getting healthy. 692 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 4: Out there we have to be smart when it comes 693 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 4: to the first. Round talent you cannot potentially hurt his 694 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 4: stock and what he could bring to the table because 695 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: you're eager to see what he looks like eagerness is a. 696 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: Great thing it's something that could you a. Little bit 697 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: but eagerness cannot result. 698 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: To, recklessness wow that was. Pretty good? 699 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: Thank you did you just come up with that on 700 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: your own? Right now in, THE moment, I, did okay 701 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,759 Speaker 1: you're gonna put that on you on signs or whatever and. 702 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: Bumper stickers it was a. Good, saying well. 703 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 4: It, was now if eagerness leads to recklessness on, the 704 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 4: road there will. 705 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: Be, crash yeah that. Is true that's that's. My bad 706 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 2: i'm not crashing. 707 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: And burning, but hey Maybe it's walter healthy enough. To 708 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: Practice garrett williams not quite healthy enough to have his practice. 709 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: Window open he's missed the required four games after hurting 710 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,879 Speaker 1: his knee, week two so we'll keep an eye. On 711 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: that cardinals this week Host The Green. Bay packers one 712 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: twenty five is the kickoff. Eight thirty pre game coverage 713 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: begins On The Arizona cardinals. Radio network it is for 714 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 1: the second, straight season the matchup Of the, Melton brothers 715 00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: max For The cardinals bo For. The packers different scenario 716 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: this Year because bo. 717 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: Is now a Cornerback. 718 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: Like max bo played wide receiver, last season so there 719 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: was that ability and we did see them lining up 720 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: against one another. Special teams though we Talked with max 721 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 1: in the locker Room. On, wednesday oh he's going to 722 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: make sure that he finds away some point in that 723 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: Game on sunday to line up against a fellow, number 724 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: Sixteen because bo has also changed not, only position but 725 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: his number. As well so you'll See the mountain brothers 726 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: lined up against one Another. 727 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 4: On Sunday, travis hunter who because it seems like the 728 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 4: first dual sport or dual side athlete that we're going 729 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 4: to be facing this year is going To Be. Bow 730 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 4: mountain he was training during. Training camp they moved him over, 731 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 4: to cornerback but he was still taking reps at, wide 732 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 4: RECEIVER and i think it's going to be interesting to 733 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,759 Speaker 4: See What bow mountain the cornerback looks Like Versus beau 734 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,640 Speaker 4: melton the. Wide receiver but you Spoke with max and, 735 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: he said at some point he's going to make sure 736 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 4: that this. Does happen he's. Very eager that's when. Eagerness, 737 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 4: recklessly no, There, Doesn't matt it just is whatever it 738 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 4: takes to get. 739 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: Out there but it'll. 740 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 4: Be Exciting The vicky mellon their mom had a customized 741 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 4: jersey last year was half of It Was Green, bay 742 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 4: packers the other half of it It Was. Arizona cardinals 743 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 4: but that Was when bow was. Number Eighty so i'm 744 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 4: curious to know if they got another. 745 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 2: One, jersey OKAY. 746 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 4: And i feel like that would probably be easier to 747 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 4: do like, a joint like you just cut it down. 748 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 4: The middle it's still the number. One six we need 749 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 4: to follow up With with Max. ON thursday i Feel 750 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 4: like i'm on a creative high. 751 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 2: Right now i've. 752 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 4: Flag football we discuss this, bumper sticker. 753 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 1: Probably wrong phrasing on. My part probably not a, bumper 754 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: sticker but just, you know one of those models that 755 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: you put up in your office or you know in the. 756 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,720 Speaker 1: Locker room it's it's going to be the new tradition 757 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: when you walk outside, the facility you have to slap it. 758 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: Every, day, eagers eagerness. Not, recklessness bam let's go have. 759 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,280 Speaker 4: A day you might want to set now this idea 760 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 4: over to your. Alma, mater okay now. 761 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: That's RECKLESS as i just completely Deflated Young zach gershman Here. 762 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 4: On, cardinals okay they've already shown our former head coach 763 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 4: ON the tv. 764 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: One other Note about, sunday's GAME and i mentioned it 765 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,720 Speaker 1: because he is the scheduled Guest For Big red rage, 766 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: this week and That Is Mac wilson senior appearing in 767 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,680 Speaker 1: his one hundredth career regular season Game, on sunday a 768 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: milestone that should, be celebrated even more So because mac 769 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: is playing very well. This season leads the team in 770 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,840 Speaker 1: tackles and, passes defense the only player in the league 771 00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: with fifty or more tackles and six or more. Passes 772 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,480 Speaker 1: defense so he is doing What the cardinals thought he 773 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: could do when they made him that green dot guy 774 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: in the middle of, the defense and what they thought 775 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: he could potentially be when they signed him in the 776 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,480 Speaker 1: offseason after seeing him play defensively For the patriots, to, 777 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: say hey we've got a defense that we think is 778 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 1: best suited for your. 779 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 2: Kind of a. 780 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: Skill set why don't you? Sign here even THOUGH believe i, 781 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,800 Speaker 1: remember correctly the money was the same or might have 782 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: been a little bit More With, new england but he 783 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 1: chose the opportunity here In the DESERT because i think 784 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: he saw What the cardinals saw as far as his 785 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: role within, this defense and there was also going to 786 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: be the staff Changes With gerrod mayo taking Over In 787 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 1: new england and everything. With that But Mac wilson senior 788 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,400 Speaker 1: saw an opportunity out here and believe that he could 789 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 1: fit in similar to What the cardinals currently Having A keem. 790 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: Davis gather he was primarily just a special, teams guy 791 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520 Speaker 1: and they, were, saying hey we could have you line up, 792 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,799 Speaker 1: right here right Next To. Kaizier white you'll be our. 793 00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: Will linebacker we'll just have you kind of on the 794 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: weakside wall allso potentially have you coming off the edge a. 795 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Little bit there are opportunities to get you on the 796 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: field defensively while not putting one hundred percent of the 797 00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: snapload on you like they Did with kaizer And mac 798 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: wilson balled out and so far this year you rattled off. 799 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: The stats he is bawling out. 800 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 4: It is it's exciting because obviously as, an organization there's 801 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 4: been a lot of Hype Surrounding MacWilson senior with eighteen 802 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,799 Speaker 4: bars and the, schedule release and you start to see 803 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,759 Speaker 4: a lot of the excitement from. The players locker room guys, 804 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 4: are great they're great, to have but when the locker 805 00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 4: room guy is also a baller on the. Football field 806 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 4: that is what makes. Guys irreplaceable so it's exciting To 807 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 4: See MacWilson senior still developing and this is his first 808 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 4: time as A true green dot linebacker and to see 809 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:31,120 Speaker 4: how well he's done. So Far, rocket ship it's time to. 810 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 4: Take off he's already taken off quite a, Bit. 811 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 1: Though sideline to sideline the interception Against The indianapolis colts 812 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: in which not only was it sideline, to sideline but 813 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,759 Speaker 1: showing his athleticism and jumping up to high point. That football, 814 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:49,799 Speaker 1: so yeah the Move To Mac wilson senior as your defensive, 815 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,879 Speaker 1: PLAY caller i think has really played well as Far, 816 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,160 Speaker 1: as again it's one thing do you figure out and 817 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: have the discussion in, The offseason hey we'd like to. 818 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 2: Do, This great i'm. 819 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: On board now you, got Execute and mac is certainly 820 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: executing what he's being asked. 821 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,799 Speaker 4: To do one quick thing to see a little bit 822 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 4: of a deeper dive Into Who Mac wilson. Senior is 823 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 4: check out the micd up that was just posted On 824 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 4: the cardinals social platforms and. On YouTube he was miked 825 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 4: up for the interception and you get to see just 826 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 4: how much the guys really rally with him and how 827 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 4: much they cheer, for him and it's fun to see 828 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 4: a team that's having fun. Out there and after the 829 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 4: loss That the cardinals had Against The, tennessee titans it 830 00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 4: could be tough to have fun, out there especially after 831 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 4: the previous. Three losses but it's still good to see 832 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,919 Speaker 4: that these guys it's for the love of the game 833 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: at this point with what they've been able, to do 834 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 4: and when you start to translate it to the love 835 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,840 Speaker 4: of the game and that starts to translate, into wins 836 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 4: you find yourself in a. Better Position, The cardinals homer opinion, 837 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,280 Speaker 4: or not they're not out. Of it we are still 838 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 4: very early in the season and a lot can change 839 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 4: for the good or for. THE worst i think in, 840 00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,680 Speaker 4: this case If Mac wilson senior's development it could be 841 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 4: sprinkled on throughout the. Entire team it will definitely be 842 00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 4: for the good of. The team guys in that locker 843 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 4: room are saying all the, right things but they also 844 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 4: know they actually need to do all the right things 845 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 4: on the. Football field but there is. Not discourage there 846 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 4: is not discouragement in that. Locker room, there's frustration but. 847 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,439 Speaker 4: Not discourage this team is ready Against The Green bay 848 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 4: packers and hopefully you get that w and then a 849 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,640 Speaker 4: lot changes going into your. Bye Week david brant From 850 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 4: The associated press came over to us and he said 851 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 4: that no team has lost these amount of games to 852 00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 4: four games by a total of nine points or less 853 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 4: except for the twenty seventeen Forty. Nine Ers if i'm 854 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 4: not mistaken in a team back in like, THE eighties 855 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:44,320 Speaker 4: i want to. 856 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 2: SAY four i think it was the Eighty. 857 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 4: Four browns this is, not NORMAL and i mean that 858 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 4: in a you could, take that however you want a bird. 859 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,200 Speaker 4: Gang like it's not normal what's going on right now 860 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 4: in terms of just the. Score total but it just SHOWS, 861 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,319 Speaker 4: the nfl oh it's a one. Score game this kind 862 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,720 Speaker 4: of stuff never happens when terms of just the walk 863 00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,040 Speaker 4: off on three straight losses and then this sort. Of 864 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 4: loss But the, cardinals team there's a reason why they're 865 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,280 Speaker 4: not blowing up, the process and It's Because jonathan gannon 866 00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 4: said that the nine points show just how close that. 867 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 4: They are that's What this cardinals team is going to 868 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 4: need to figure out if they're doubly down on, the 869 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 4: process is finding that one tweak that could separate them. 870 00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 2: From losses. 871 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 1: To wins being close does. Mean something might not mean 872 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 1: anything to a lot, of people but it does mean 873 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: something within those coaches and with those players in the. 874 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: Locker room, so again one thing to, be close but 875 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,000 Speaker 1: at some point you got to put it all together 876 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:46,520 Speaker 1: and beyond the right end of those. Close games Because 877 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 1: the cardinals are the only team in the league in 878 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,520 Speaker 1: which all of their games have been decided by seven points. 879 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: Or fewer that's the first two wins the season and 880 00:42:57,040 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: certainly the last four losses here in. Twenty five so 881 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 1: it's a one, score league and right Now the cardinals 882 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: are the headliners of that one. 883 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 4: Score league it's tough to do with what, they've, done 884 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 4: uh but hopefully that they're able to turn. It, around 885 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 4: look every single game that they've had so far has 886 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,000 Speaker 4: gone down to. The wire they were able to come 887 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 4: away with, two wins they've. Lost others they have to 888 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,319 Speaker 4: try to figure out what they can do to try 889 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 4: to get back in that. Win column, all right we'll. 890 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,399 Speaker 1: Let you get back to your, Creative process zach can 891 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: see what you can come, up next because you're just 892 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: on a roll here On. 893 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 4: THIS wednesday i like, to THINK so i like To 894 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 4: think i'm on. A, roll no it's. 895 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: Not, every day it's it's it's, you know said be 896 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: on a roll Like butter, oh Yeah that's I'M glad 897 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: i talked of that because that's. Just, that's yeah but coming, from, 898 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 1: you no. 899 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,560 Speaker 4: You're, right yes, ooh, yeah, okay. 900 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,400 Speaker 1: Yeah we're gonna get out of here On That notebird. 901 00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 1: Gang special thanks to everyone behind the scenes are Executive 902 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: producer Jim, al mahandro our Associate Producer cody Fincher For, 903 00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,320 Speaker 1: zach gers and The Creative. Zach Kershman I'm. Craig rayolou 904 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: we'll talk to you next time Here On cardinals. 905 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 2: Cover two