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Speaker 1: to start number one by Sam. What's Upcone? What's up? Blaine.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the end of the weekend. Everybody out there

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Speaker 1: on Friday. Hope you're getting ready for the pre National

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Speaker 1: played as well with the SEC in conference season starting.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with Kirby Smart. You know

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Speaker 1: how much does Kirby Smart have to prove? Well? When

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Speaker 1: I look at it's a very simple formula. This isn't

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Speaker 1: a complicated issue. He's done everything outside of beat Nick

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Speaker 1: the format it is now, you just happen to have

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Speaker 1: looking at this from a Harry Potter standpoint, all he

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Speaker 1: has left to do is beat Baltimore. But Baldemore just

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Speaker 1: is it hasn't been where every game is you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, George has had leads, whether it's the first quarter,

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Speaker 1: And people now don't grade Kirby and it's a compliment

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Speaker 1: to Kirby Smart really and where Georgia is. They don't

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Speaker 1: They don't grade Georgia on how you're doing during the

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Speaker 1: they do in championship games and against Nick Saban in

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Speaker 1: Alabama and you have another opportunity coming up. So is

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Speaker 1: this the last check mark on the list for Kirby Smart? Yes?

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Speaker 1: What else is there after that? It's not beaton Auburn.

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Speaker 1: They do it every year now. Basically, it's not you know,

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Speaker 1: beat the Master worse than Kirby Smart. That's a great point,

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Speaker 1: you know, especially if if Saban retires or you know,

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Speaker 1: sticking with the Alabama and Georgia theme, a lot of

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Speaker 1: And people say, oh, well, Nick Saban's bad for college football.

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban is the goat. I don't think that can

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Speaker 1: There's a lot more moving parts. You're really responsible for

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Speaker 1: So when you talk about Jake, when you talk about

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