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<v Speaker 1>I loved living in Brooklyn, But when Oggi was born,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily kept going on about Minnesota. She's from there originally,

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<v Speaker 1>and wanted Oggi to have family around a back yard

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<v Speaker 1>a sandbox uninhabited by rats. That summer, during a visit

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<v Speaker 1>back home, Emily showed me all that Minnesota had to

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<v Speaker 1>offer by taking me to the state Fair. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily pointed out a large, wobbly Hasidic man who appeared

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<v Speaker 1>to be wearing a tractor tire threaded through his belt. Loops.

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<v Speaker 1>You see, she said, sweetly, there are Jews in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>The Minnesota offensive continued along. Emily looked at photos of

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<v Speaker 1>houses online with hedges to trim and fences to mend.

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<v Speaker 1>Having never owned a house, none of it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>In Brooklyn, we lived across the street from a Chinese takeout.

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<v Speaker 1>A man named Albert brought our garbage to the curb

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<v Speaker 1>and once a month vacuumed the building hallway. What could

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<v Speaker 1>be better than that? But then Emily fell in love

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<v Speaker 1>with a house in Minnesota, a small enough place painted green.

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<v Speaker 1>In the photo, I could see a garden hose out front.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not going to water the lawn, I said.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate those guys, guys who water their lawns. She asked,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, I said, wearing shorts, waving

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<v Speaker 1>to passers by like they're in a David Lynch film.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we put in an offer. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>a bad dream. Surely I couldn't be leaving New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Surely something would happen, something would keep us from going

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<v Speaker 1>through with it. When I told my boss Alex about

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<v Speaker 1>my wife's plan, I prayed he'd put an end to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Forbidding it outright. All this plan was missing was a

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<v Speaker 1>good forbidding. You can work remote, he said. We moved

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of January during a polar vortex. That

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<v Speaker 1>first night in my new home, the rooms were bare

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<v Speaker 1>and cold. I can't feel my feet, I said, from

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<v Speaker 1>under the blankets. Spring will be here soon. Emily said

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<v Speaker 1>she'd been saying it all day. It was always about

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<v Speaker 1>spring being here, and oh how great that'll be. You've

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<v Speaker 1>never smelt paeonies so fresh, never tasted hot dish and

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<v Speaker 1>tater tots until you've had them warm to perfection under

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<v Speaker 1>the Minnesota sun. That first night was so quiet, the

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<v Speaker 1>noise in my head so loud. Without Brooklyn to drown

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<v Speaker 1>it out at our bedroom window. I looked out onto

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<v Speaker 1>the street, desolate under the street lamps, everything covered in ice,

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<v Speaker 1>glistening like knives. Quietly I wept, Spring will be here soon,

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<v Speaker 1>Emily said, and sure enough she was true to her word.

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<v Speaker 1>Spring is here, or what passes for spring in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>The april snow has almost melted, and I can just

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<v Speaker 1>about see the sidewalks. It's time to put away my

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<v Speaker 1>long John's and roof shovel and whether I can smell

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<v Speaker 1>them from behind a facial mask or not, get ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the paeonies to bloom.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the best time of the year. I love

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<v Speaker 2>the spring. All the buds are staring to come out,

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<v Speaker 2>report me.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that the weather is getting nicer, my dad and

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<v Speaker 4>I have been taking walks together. I left Brooklyn about

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<v Speaker 4>a month ago. I moved back home where I grew up,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty minutes north of Manhattan. And so my dad and I,

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<v Speaker 4>when we're off on these walks, we invented this game

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<v Speaker 4>sewer Stones. We pick up rocks and the object of

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<v Speaker 4>the game is to bowl them into the sewer drains.

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<v Speaker 1>Mago maya.

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<v Speaker 2>Boom? Is that too? To one?

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<v Speaker 1>To one? Hold on hold on. Is this a game

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<v Speaker 1>that you guys played when you were a kid, So.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a lot like a lot of the games we

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<v Speaker 4>used to do when I was little.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, yeah, let's see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's see it. Very nice. Do you find that you're

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<v Speaker 2>doing like a lot of the stuff that you used

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<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm just like a kid again. The

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<v Speaker 4>other day I found a pair of my dirty socks

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<v Speaker 4>on the floor in the dining room. I looked at

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<v Speaker 4>them and I was like, are those my sock? Like

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Regressing, Yeah, exactly. Are your parents happy to have you back?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah. My mom offered to cut my hair. She

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<v Speaker 4>used to cut our hair when we were kids. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>I have these really distinct memories of her kind of

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<v Speaker 4>like laying this towel out on the floor, this like

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<v Speaker 4>ratty green towel that we never used otherwise, and like

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<v Speaker 4>bringing a chair into the bathroom and she still has

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<v Speaker 4>that ratty green Towelochie, you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Really going at this pretty quick. I'm winging a little bit. Whoops. Sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I think my mom is happy to be taking care

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<v Speaker 4>of us in this way that she hasn't had to

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<v Speaker 4>in a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>You want me to put my head down more.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I love this. This is looking really good.

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<v Speaker 2>In the back.

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<v Speaker 4>We've come so far from Oops.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want me to go even shorter? Back here?

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe a little?

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<v Speaker 4>It was already pretty short, but I kind of just

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<v Speaker 4>wanted her to keep cutting. I just wanted to let

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<v Speaker 4>her do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan, what have you been up to? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for asking. Sure, A good portion of my

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<v Speaker 1>day is given over to trying to keep my three

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<v Speaker 1>year old entertained. And I am just shameless. I'll do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>And I invent all these different characters like robo Papa

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<v Speaker 1>Papa yes, and like when I start talking to him normally,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be like, no, no, no, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to regular Papa. I want to talk to robo Papa.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we gonna am I going to purchase robo Papa.

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<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't get his fuel, he gets brain damage.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily hates it so much TV is. You know, we

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<v Speaker 1>try to keep it limited. So we're trying to teach

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<v Speaker 1>him that, you know, there's other ways to keep entertained,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like old timey ways. So the other day

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<v Speaker 1>we built this puppet stage.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome boys and goals and goals and ladies and man

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<v Speaker 2>gentlemen to the puppet job.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Emily pulled out this puppet Johnny that I

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<v Speaker 1>made when I was eleven years old. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>bereft of friends that I made this puppet name Johnny,

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<v Speaker 1>and I totally forgot about him, like it had been

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was like forty years Oh no, no, no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>no no. I thought that it brought back memories of

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<v Speaker 1>like just loneliness and.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, wait, you made a puppet and you named it

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<v Speaker 4>your name.

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<v Speaker 2>Does it look like you?

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<v Speaker 1>Emily would argue that it does look like me, and

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<v Speaker 1>she kind of brought Oggie on board. OGGI, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think this looks like Papa? Nou? How does it looked

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<v Speaker 1>like me? Looks like unique?

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<v Speaker 4>Like Papa likes Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Yah, Yes, Papa doesn't have any hair, but if he

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<v Speaker 1>had hair, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Would look just like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So the play was basically Johnny and Swipey. Swipey is

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<v Speaker 1>this other but that we have a raccoon? Okay, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see a play between Johnny and Swipey. It was

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to get off the ground because Aggie is

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<v Speaker 1>like he was just really over directing me and everything

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<v Speaker 1>I was doing was wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's one of those typically hard to work with directors. No, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>It just ended up devolving into this like big dance

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<v Speaker 1>party and Aggie made us all dance dancing planks. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It was just fun and it just seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like licensed, just too crazy things and like we still

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<v Speaker 1>haven't taken down the puppet, the puppet stage in the

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<v Speaker 1>living room. And it's nice that we actually have a

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<v Speaker 1>living room, you know, but we we didn't really in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Things were just things were a lot smaller

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<v Speaker 1>and and so that's yeah, that's nice. You know. The

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<v Speaker 1>last time I visited New York was right before everything changed,

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<v Speaker 1>and the three of us got together for drinks. I

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<v Speaker 1>think was the night that the Gimblet offices shut down.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the last I didn't know it at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, but it ended up being the last day

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<v Speaker 2>that I went to a bar me too.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was something else noteworthy about that evening that

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<v Speaker 1>we've that we've since talked about. It was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time that any of us shook hands with somebody else. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>someone that we ran into that evening at the bar.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever heard of award winning producer of The Jinks.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you say? Award winning producer of The Jinks Again, Award.

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<v Speaker 2>Winning producer of documentary The Jinks.

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<v Speaker 1>We happened to run into a former co worker of ours,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who used to work at Gimblet, Mark Smirling.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever heard of crime Town?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>Recently a doctor Anthony Fauci made that statement about how

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<v Speaker 1>we may never return back to shaking hands. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's weird. It's weird to think that Mark Smirling

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<v Speaker 1>might be the last person that any of us end

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<v Speaker 1>up shaking hands with. Yeah, do you think that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>were we the last people that he shook hands with?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think, Well, there's only one way to find out.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking across the room and there's Stevie or you

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<v Speaker 3>can't forget.

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<v Speaker 2>The unforgettable, the unforgettable Stevie Lane.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I got up, went over and shook your hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Your hand might be the last hand we ever shake.

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<v Speaker 3>Lucky you. I could have gotten you all sick, right there?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it the same for you? Were we the last

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<v Speaker 1>people that you ever shook hands with?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmm?

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<v Speaker 1>It probably is.

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<v Speaker 3>It seems like right after that things started to close in. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know my contact with the outer world, sort

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<v Speaker 3>of vannists.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you right now, Brooklyn?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in Clinton Hill?

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<v Speaker 2>Me too, I'm in Clinton Hill.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, I might have seen you around though,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking about it.

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<v Speaker 4>You guys should just open your windows and you can

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<v Speaker 4>yell to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you born in New York? Are you from New York?

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<v Speaker 3>Originally I'm a Jersey boy from South Orange, but but

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in New York since I was eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there still an upsign to being in New York? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have moments where you're like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still good to be here somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, food delivery is a big plus, you know, although

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<v Speaker 3>we have to like use all kinds of toxic chemicals

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<v Speaker 3>to clean off the bag and wrappings. You know, living

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<v Speaker 3>in New York is it just.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not the place to be during the pandemic.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, there is one magical thing. I can get a

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<v Speaker 3>parking spot really easily.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a plus.

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<v Speaker 2>A thing I've really been missing about New York is

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<v Speaker 2>like being in a hurry and being like I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have time for a real dinner, and so you're like

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<v Speaker 2>getting a slice of pizza and eating it really quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>On the street because you have some place you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get to. Yeah, Like I just really I miss

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<v Speaker 2>some places so much. Yeah, I don't know. I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about. The thing that I think I really love

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<v Speaker 2>about New York is like the feeling of being alone

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<v Speaker 2>around other people. Like I would be out by myself, ye,

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<v Speaker 2>like on the train alone, or like walking home on

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<v Speaker 2>a Friday night and just passing bars and hearing like

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<v Speaker 2>the hum of people's voices and bars, like it just

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<v Speaker 2>made you feel like you were like a part of

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<v Speaker 2>something even if I wasn't with people. Yeah, And now

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<v Speaker 2>it's like instead of being alone with other people, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like alone alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like everyone's gone, I can't do anything. And I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it to someone who is still in Brooklyn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, but don't you kind of feel

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<v Speaker 2>like proud that you're still here? And I was like, yeah, actually,

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<v Speaker 2>like I do, Like I feel like that's the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that feels like unchanged. It's that like there's like a

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of like when you're living in New York that

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone's miserable and like stressed out and in a

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<v Speaker 2>small part, but there's this pride in the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing that. Do you know what I mean? Like,

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone's really unhappy, but you're like, I actually like

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<v Speaker 2>sitting at my computer till eight pm and then eating

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<v Speaker 2>a piece of pizza on a dirty street.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like irrational and unquantifiable, but you just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>feel love for the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know there's that cheer every night at seven

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<v Speaker 2>pm for healthcare workers.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah have you participated?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't, And it makes me feel bad because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's a nice thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I mean, but you're probably like someone who

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<v Speaker 1>like when when you go to like a sporting event

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<v Speaker 1>of some kind and everybody starts like clapping their seats

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<v Speaker 1>and singing we will rock you like you're just like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to sit this one out.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. And when I go to a show and

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<v Speaker 2>they say how's everyone doing, I just say fine. I

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<v Speaker 2>just like feel like I'm not going to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, whoo it's I don't think I've ever heard you

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<v Speaker 1>make that wu sound.

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<v Speaker 2>But last night when it happened, my downstairs neighbors started

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<v Speaker 2>blast sing that you know that New York New York song,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that SNATA song.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, start spreading the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that one and he was really like blasting it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was really loud and he was like singing along

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone on the street was like doing their cheer

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<v Speaker 2>and like people were getting excited about him playing the

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<v Speaker 2>song and we're like cheering, and it made me like

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<v Speaker 2>so emotional. Yeah, I don't know. It did give me

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<v Speaker 2>like a little bit of that feeling i'd been missing

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<v Speaker 2>of like here we all are in the city and

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm alone, but I'm I'm also with other people.

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<v Speaker 4>Do I know know when you're drinking