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Speaker 2: All right, just a heart open here. Welcome to Tuesday's

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Speaker 2: edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We are here at Jillette Stadium.

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Speaker 2: Patriots had their second day of full pads practice.

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Speaker 4: It's in the books.

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Speaker 2: We'll be joined later on in the show by Caius Tanga,

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Speaker 2: who stopped by right after practice and sat down with

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Speaker 2: Paul and I. But let's get right to it. It's

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Speaker 2: Mike Dussa, Evan Lazar, Paul Prolo, myself Alex is in

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Speaker 2: the booth today and let's talk about what we saw.

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Speaker 5: I thought it was a good day for the defense,

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Speaker 5: not the best day that we've seen from camp. From

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Speaker 5: the offense in Drake, I thought it wasn't really about

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Speaker 5: the pressure. To me, it was felt like Drake was

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Speaker 5: a little off, not his best practice, and it felt

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Speaker 5: like a lot of the coverage was really good on

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Speaker 5: the receivers, which was surprised and considering that Christian Zalez,

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Speaker 5: you know, and Carlton Davis were not at practice, you

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Speaker 5: thought maybe they'd be able to take advantage of some

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Speaker 5: of those guys down the depth chart playing at cornerback,

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Speaker 5: but not really seem like the offense was stumbling a

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Speaker 5: little bit. They did have their moments in the red zone.

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Speaker 5: They were a handful of plays that they made well,

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Speaker 5: but overall defense one the day.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would agree with Mike.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a lot of red zone work,

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Speaker 6: But I thought he had some opportunities.

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Speaker 3: May you know, one in particular that really stood out

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Speaker 3: was a throw that I thought he just sort of

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Speaker 6: You know, it wasn't without some highlight throws too.

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Speaker 2: You had a really nice throw to what Diggs, he

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Speaker 2: the Kyle Williams in the end zone, which was a

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Speaker 4: So you know, there was some good place too.

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Speaker 3: And in fairness to me, I thought the receivers had

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Speaker 3: Williams being one of them, I thought failed to to catch.

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Speaker 3: I thought, a, you know, a pretty accurate throw. The

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Speaker 3: Good throw, really, really top notch throw for may. I

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Speaker 3: thought Booty was pretty active today.

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Speaker 7: A couple of.

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Speaker 6: Good run he was targeted more.

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Speaker 3: He had a great block by sorry, Booty had a

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Speaker 6: was nice run.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that one was a good one, A nice toss

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Speaker 8: had I think Jack Westover was out in front of

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Speaker 8: that one as well. But I agree with the guys.

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Speaker 8: I think it was controlled by the defense for the

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Speaker 7: But I think it should be.

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Speaker 8: When you're down in the tight red zone, you're inside

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Speaker 8: the end zone, usually those types of practices favor the

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Speaker 7: Look at those two.

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Speaker 8: But I think the biggest thing, just from two days

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Speaker 8: that's a really exciting development for that group. Will Campbell

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Speaker 8: I thought Jared Wilson was really really good today, especially.

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Speaker 7: In one on ones.

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Speaker 4: He was just you know, engaging his guy and just

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Speaker 8: It was Milton Williams and Christian Barmore too, So we're

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Speaker 8: You know, Morgan Moses left practice today with something and

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Speaker 8: I don't think he's looked great. Milton Williams at times

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Speaker 2: I mean I still say, you know, we had tong

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Speaker 2: We're not going to the ground, but we're going full speed.

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Speaker 2: I just I just still don't think it really is

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Speaker 2: Really, I think I think they're like they're they're moving

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Speaker 2: at full speed, but there's not that intention to like

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Speaker 4: I Cause so I do put.

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Speaker 3: Evidently you have to temper your enthusiasm.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I put a little caution on all of this

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Speaker 2: Let's give me the joint practices next week and and

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Speaker 8: And I'll say this about Milton Williams. I I don't

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Speaker 8: He's not like one of these defensive tackles that's like

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Speaker 8: concerned of that Melon Williams is going to be a

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Speaker 8: Like he's thirty four years old, he's coming off a

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Speaker 8: on my radar. And you know, Deuces guy Trey Jacobs

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Speaker 7: So it's just something to monitor.

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Speaker 2: I was going up the elevator with one of Paul's guys.

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Speaker 2: I won't mention his name, but he's like worried about

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Speaker 4: I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: It's like I mean, this is shaping up to me

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Speaker 5: I think I might have bigger questions about the center

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Speaker 5: Not to say I don't have questions about the right

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Speaker 5: right now where I'm like, jeez, I hope Bill Campbell

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Speaker 2: Like I've seen one rep in one on ones where

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Speaker 2: Keon White beat him.

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Speaker 4: That was yesterday. Today he looked fine.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean he won both his reps today. I

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Speaker 8: should mention one against Keon, one against Chase On. Chason

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Speaker 8: what you're seeing from Campbell's what I expected. He's already,

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Speaker 8: Yeah, right, So how can you know he set out

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Speaker 8: And I think Campbell's gonna be fine. But overall, I

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Speaker 5: And I just pull on the threat on chase on

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Speaker 5: I talked a lot about my concerns on you know,

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Speaker 7: I think he's poised to have a really good season.

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Speaker 5: It seems like the vrabel was asked about him a

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Speaker 5: couple of days ago, and you know, first round pick

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Speaker 5: me that is maybe you know, and Javon and Jalen

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Speaker 5: Javon Baker maybe making a little bit bit of a push.

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Speaker 7: Here, which he needs to do. He needs to take

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Speaker 8: Chason has been their best edge rusher. I'd say through

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Speaker 8: six practices he's been the most noticeable guy winning the

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Speaker 8: think he's probably been the most noticeable player on defense. Besides,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's really just sorry if I real quick, just yesterday

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Speaker 3: Things with May that I've noticed is it's almost backwards.

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Speaker 3: He makes his better throw as well moving. Yeah, when

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Speaker 7: You just want to see clean motion throw foom, you

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Speaker 7: His leg was still attached. He yeah, was still walking,

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Speaker 6: Just just why they worry me.

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Speaker 6: You have three full weeks, four weeks.

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Speaker 4: You know this is by design.

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Speaker 5: So far, it hasn't been it's been up and down.

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Speaker 6: It's a whole different guy.

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Speaker 7: Look, this just start up a week of practice.

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Speaker 5: It's not you know, we haven't written everything about them,

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Speaker 7: Carlton Davis hadn't really practice.

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Speaker 4: But it's like what, Chason's not doing anything. You can't

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Speaker 2: Know, So like again, let's you can't get too pumped up,

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Speaker 2: Let's see what happens next week when the commanders come

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Speaker 4: I think just that.

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Speaker 7: The corners don't worry me at all, Like.

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Speaker 8: All right, Ganza, you got that guy, Carlon, you got

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Speaker 8: once the games come around. I just think it's different

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Speaker 6: To learn, not worry about the schemes at all.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to give you a little pushback because they

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Speaker 5: The tax free weekend to me though, was like I

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Speaker 7: Like I need to purchase a piece of furniture. This

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Speaker 7: is the weekend to do it.

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Speaker 4: But you can go to New Hampshire and do it anything.

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Speaker 6: But what do you do?

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Speaker 5: But it's not like you're going like I'm gonna go

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Speaker 5: do some close shopping and I, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 5: think of it that way.

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Speaker 4: But well, clothes aren't taxed in Massachusetts. No, I don't

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Speaker 4: know that. Food and close no tax.

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Speaker 9: Jeez.

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Speaker 2: Food, I don't think there's well restaurants, but not a

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Speaker 2: grocery store.

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Speaker 6: Oh there's a meal tax.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, but not in a grocery store. So anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's Bob's discount for it, all right. A five to

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Speaker 2: five past five hundred is the Hotline podcast at Patriots

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Speaker 2: dot com.

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Speaker 4: Is the way to email us anything else we want

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Speaker 4: to cover before we open it up.

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Speaker 7: And I feel like we should just mention the kickers.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you.

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Speaker 7: Know yesterday Park six for six. Apparently we think very little.

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Speaker 3: I got a confirmation that, you know, from Mike Reese,

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Speaker 3: who checks with the coaching a member of the coaching staff,

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Speaker 3: he says he did.

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Speaker 6: In fact, it's confirmed six for six.

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Speaker 3: If I had to put my mortgage on it, I

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Speaker 3: would say he missed the fifth one, but they're going

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Speaker 3: six percent.

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Speaker 5: We didn't watch the practice together, but we saw it

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Speaker 5: the same way. Those last two kicks looked at like

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Speaker 5: the first three. First first, fore look good.

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Speaker 7: That's when you're looking last two.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I think would be fun A little

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Speaker 4: bit of it wraw.

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Speaker 2: Like every practice at the end, he either pulled somebody

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Speaker 2: from the media or somebody from the crowd to be

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Speaker 2: the person and do this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be fun.

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Speaker 6: Eric Alexander used to do that for us.

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Speaker 4: You remember.

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Speaker 3: He would always stand under the goal post and he

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Speaker 3: would come forward like that like he was like one

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Speaker 3: of those Australian rules football guy.

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Speaker 7: He would and then to go yeah right.

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Speaker 5: I like the two though, where you look at each

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Speaker 5: other you do the nod, and then he would do it.

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Speaker 3: He would he would point and there'd be nobody there, point,

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Speaker 3: nod and then yeah.

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Speaker 8: You think it's interesting how they split up the kicker reps.

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Speaker 8: Now it's like yesterday was a Romo day and today

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Speaker 8: it was a borgalisday. Instead of having them go one

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Speaker 8: after another within the practice because I feel like there's

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Speaker 8: a little bit more pressure right when like it's all

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Speaker 8: you Bergolis goes from forty one and then Romo goes

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Speaker 8: and if he makes it, then it's kind of like

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Speaker 8: a PK shootout right where it's a little bit more pressure.

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Speaker 8: This now they're giving all of the reps to one

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Speaker 8: kicker per day instead of doing it the other way.

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Speaker 5: Feels still very straightforward this year with the kicking drills,

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Speaker 5: but I remember last year where they have everybody lining

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Speaker 5: around them and screaming at them and trying to disrupt them,

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Speaker 5: and it's the same special teams coaches. I just I

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Speaker 5: wonder if they'll get back to that. If they've gotten

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Speaker 5: away from that, they're going to continue to perhaps.

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Speaker 8: Have been good though, which I have something I've been

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Speaker 8: noting operation.

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Speaker 6: I haven't noticed any issues.

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Speaker 7: I haven't said Julian Ashby's name once, which.

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Speaker 4: So you have to make a decision right now, who

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Speaker 4: do you keep.

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Speaker 8: I think it's close enough to yeah, it's I mean

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Speaker 8: it's yeah, it's but you put the other guy on.

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Speaker 2: The practice squad just in case, keep him keep him

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Speaker 2: on ice.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think if you can I mean, I guess

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Speaker 3: I'll be the turn in the punch bowl. I think

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Speaker 3: we're almost kicked better.

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Speaker 8: I would agree, but I don't think it's I don't

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Speaker 8: think that it's so different that I'm not I'm cutting

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Speaker 8: a guy I drafted this year to keep Parker Romo,

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Speaker 8: who I do think would probably make it to the

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Speaker 8: practice squad unless he has like some crazy kicks and season.

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Speaker 3: I would also say that the coaching staff is certainly

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Speaker 3: dealing with a lot more information in terms of what

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Speaker 3: Parker Romo is, you know, at this stage of his career.

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Speaker 3: I'm just judging it off of six days, right, That's

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Speaker 3: not how these decisions get made on the six days.

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Speaker 3: To me, there has been a discernible difference. I think

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Speaker 3: Romo kicks them normally every time, and Boragalis has at

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Speaker 3: least a couple every day that don't look right, even

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Speaker 3: ones that go through. So based on that, I would

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Speaker 3: say Romo. But that's not, like I said, they have

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Speaker 3: a whole you know, backlog of you know, information on

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Speaker 3: Romo and why they drafted Boragalis. I might say it's

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Speaker 3: been a it's a little bit of a struggle after

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Speaker 3: a week, but it'll work itself out.

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Speaker 4: But that's interesting.

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Speaker 7: Ones are a good point.

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Speaker 3: If they go through he made today that I would

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Speaker 3: not feel great about.

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Speaker 4: It, right he hit those wobbly.

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Speaker 2: When they go through, it means you have a lot

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Speaker 2: of power behind it and you're you're hitting through the mishit,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: But that's not a good sign, especially once the.

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Speaker 8: Weather starts to turn and it's yeh cold.

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Speaker 3: Or there's been no weather, there's no like wind wind,

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Speaker 3: you know, that's that's really affected. Maybe one day the

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Speaker 3: wind may have had an effect on some of the

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Speaker 3: longer kicks, but not much.

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Speaker 6: It's been pretty hot and humid, good good kicking conditions.

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Speaker 2: We should mention, you know, thoughts go out to the

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Speaker 2: people at the NFL offices and everyone in that building

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Speaker 2: at Park Avenue yesterday with what happened, particularly the loss

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Speaker 2: of life from the police officer. Just not a good

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Speaker 2: scene over there. And I know NFL dot com or

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Speaker 2: they're social they've gone dark today.

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Speaker 4: They're not posting.

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Speaker 2: Because if you were there, that's kind of a scary,

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Speaker 2: scary time.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know you have a shelter in place, yeah, hide.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And apparently the guy took the wrong elevator. Otherwise

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Speaker 2: he was going for the NFL offices. He you know,

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Speaker 2: the reports, So they'd had a note in his pocket

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Speaker 2: about CTE and this whole thing. So yeah, so not

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Speaker 2: a good situation, all right, eight five five Pats five

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Speaker 2: hundred is the hotline. Let's get it open to you.

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Speaker 2: We'll start with Todd and Gardner. What's up Todd?

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Speaker 13: Hey, guys, I've been loving the camp coverage, but I've got.

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Speaker 14: A quick question.

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Speaker 13: Previous years, you guys would shut the camera down, but

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Speaker 13: you'd stay and watch and give it kind of play

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Speaker 13: by play, a little bit of highlights. I know you

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Speaker 13: couldn't help exactly like a bry Woods or anything, but

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Speaker 13: that was really great just to hear the inflection is

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Speaker 13: in your voices, the excitement, the disappointment from time to time.

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Speaker 13: Two and you guys have been doing that this year.

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Speaker 13: Is there a reason why did they ask you not to?

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Speaker 4: No, they didn't ask us not to.

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Speaker 2: We decided not to because I didn't feel it was

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Speaker 2: very good content. Not a lot of people were actually

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Speaker 2: listening at that point. You know, the numbers wise, you know,

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Speaker 2: we we we know how many you know, and so

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Speaker 2: like there was a big drop off so we just

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Speaker 2: didn't think it was worth it.

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Speaker 5: It also ate into how much we could actually watch

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Speaker 5: an analyze practice because you're worried about not having dead

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Speaker 5: air and trying to relay stuff, whereas now we can

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Speaker 5: really focus on it and then come in either here

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Speaker 5: or in the camp cast and get into what the

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Speaker 5: details were that happened, rather.

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Speaker 7: Than oh, that was a big play by Gonzalez. We

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Speaker 7: can't tell exactly what happened, but that kind of thing.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: And plus there's like w Ee I and some of

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Speaker 13: the other guys that are live casting and you can

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Speaker 13: watch there or something, So I guess there are other options.

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Speaker 13: I just prefer you guys.

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Speaker 4: All right, Okay, thanks Todd, Thanks Todd.

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Speaker 2: Well anyone else that's doing it live, they can't be

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Speaker 2: showing anything, you know, I hope.

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Speaker 10: So.

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Speaker 4: No, their cameras are on right them right. Mike's on

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Speaker 4: lung Island. What's up, Mike, A gentleman?

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Speaker 2: How we're doing?

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Speaker 11: All?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 11: Then read yet?

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Speaker 4: What do you say? I didn't say that again? Did

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Speaker 4: you do?

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Speaker 7: Then read the bront reads?

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Speaker 4: Oh not yet, but we will Mike. You work for Brunt.

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Speaker 15: No, No, the good rule anyway?

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Speaker 11: Uh So all the book talk the last couple of

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Speaker 11: weeks and the Jaws talk.

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Speaker 15: I don't wanted to.

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Speaker 14: Call him half they able to. I read the book,

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Speaker 14: the Jaws Book, and it's way better.

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Speaker 5: The movie sounds like an affair going on, and well

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Speaker 5: we're not talking to Jaws today.

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Speaker 4: But thanks Mike.

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Speaker 3: That might be the first person I've ever heard say that.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people that have read the book.

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Speaker 3: I read the book and I thought the book was

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Speaker 3: I mean, the.

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Speaker 7: Movie was was actually good Ties, and.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had all kinds of like this complicated affairs.

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Speaker 3: You know, Hopper has an affair with with bro It's

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Speaker 3: like mafia ties, and that the mayor is like compromised.

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Speaker 4: I read the book and the movie is much better.

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Speaker 6: That's what I hear more often than not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I will say though, I am about halfway through

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Speaker 5: Casino Royale. I jumped into my first James Bond book

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Speaker 5: and interesting, it's very Yeah, well it's it's nice to

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Speaker 5: just read a James Bunnen just interpret him as a

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Speaker 5: character and I'll think about like Sean Connery or any

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Speaker 5: of the guys that acted us.

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Speaker 7: So it's very, very short, very sparse book. That was

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Speaker 7: what was interesting to me. So I'll full report for everybody.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, but.

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Speaker 7: Casino Royal is the first book.

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Speaker 5: They didn't make that one until Daniel Craig, So I

666
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Speaker 5: was like, why are they why they mix up with

667
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 5: Connery back in the fifth The books are written in

668
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 5: the fifties and then they jump right into like book

669
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,760
Speaker 5: five was the first one.

670
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 4: All right, we'll get that.

671
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 6: Fred's not happy with this.

672
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: I just want to get football.

673
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 2: We just got out of time, so I just want

674
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 2: to make sure that we're talking football for a little

675
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 2: bit before people will yell at us.

676
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 16: Well.

677
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 5: I have my eye though on obviously the cornerbacks and

678
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,880
Speaker 5: and Paul mentioned did you mention DJ James and this one?

679
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 7: DJ James, Alex Austin and Marcela Style.

680
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 5: So those are the you know, guys behind the scenes

681
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 5: that these injuries linger or they pop up during the season.

682
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 7: These are the guys they're looking at.

683
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 5: Alex Austin talked after practice, still talking to Uncle Willie McGinnis.

684
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 7: Mike Greasee asked him. He said, Willie told him exactly.

685
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 5: What to expect from Mike Rabel, So, you know, just

686
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 5: looking for rout s Austin to start the year like

687
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 5: he finished the last two years he made you know,

688
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 5: he had some good contributions at the end, battled injuries

689
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 5: the start of these last two seasons, so hopefully he's

690
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 5: able to mix in and provide some insurance behind Davis

691
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 5: and it's AWESO.

692
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 9: Yeah.

693
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 8: I don't know if Marcel's dials an outside corner, but

694
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 8: he's played a little bit in the slot at the

695
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 8: nickel spot and he's looked pretty good there. I thought

696
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 8: he had pretty good coverage on Hunter Henry a couple

697
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 8: of times today and was really good against the run

698
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 8: yesterday in that run heavy practice. So I wonder you know,

699
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 8: they talked a lot about big Nichols and getting some

700
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 8: more size there, and you know who's exactly going to

701
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 8: cover tight ends when they do face the team like

702
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 8: right out of the shoot with brock Bauers in Week one,

703
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 8: Like who's going to cover him? And maybe Dials somebody

704
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 8: that can play more of like a slot nickel safety

705
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 8: type of role.

706
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 7: He's a good tackler.

707
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 5: Marcus Jones two has had some injury issues like pretty

708
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 5: much of the years, so you need to ensure I

709
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 5: don't know.

710
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 8: If I love him on the outside, but if that

711
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 8: says the role they have in mind for dial.

712
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 7: I don't mind that.

713
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: That's an interesting point about Bowers, and we'll probably you know,

714
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks away from really sort of diving

715
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: into that. But it's something that I have been thinking

716
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 3: about because Marcus Jones not big enough for that for

717
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: that role, and I do think they need a corner

718
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 3: on him.

719
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 6: Not I don't.

720
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: I don't like the idea of the safeties unless they

721
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 3: just wanted to try to rough them up. But I

722
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 3: think that's a dangerous game you're playing. I don't know

723
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: if Craig Woodson or you know, Marcus Epst, I don't

724
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: think those guys are necessarily you know, at that stage,

725
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: you might need an Alex Austin or a Marcella's dial.

726
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 6: As Evan just mentioned.

727
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 7: Would you ever go gonzo upon him about you? Could

728
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 7: you could do that?

729
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 3: Because it's really only Jacoby Myers, like that's going to

730
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 3: scare you, you know, as a receiver, and he's not

731
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 3: really even going to scare you. He's just a good

732
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 3: professional receiver. But they they don't really have much else before.

733
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 7: I think it's the rookie right why elder Thornton Mellon.

734
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 8: I wonder about Davis uh on Bowers like long physical

735
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 8: corner and Carlon Davis maybe he plays Bowers and then

736
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 8: you put Gonzo on Jacobe Myers.

737
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 4: And good luck, yeah, and then we win.

738
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 8: And then we went with Turner in a fast like

739
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 8: Pop Douglas type, right, So, like I wonder if maybe

740
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 8: that's the matchup. Like Carlon Davis seems like the type

741
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 8: of guy that could that could give Bowers some problems,

742
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 8: you know.

743
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 7: I mean he's a special player.

744
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 5: He's the kind of guy where you might need to

745
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 5: get a little bit outside of the box.

746
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 7: Thinking that kind of thing too.

747
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you need someone with corner cover ability

748
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: on him, and I think Davis that makes a lot

749
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 3: of sense.

750
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 8: You got to worry about genty but that the Raiders

751
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 8: are going to go and win twelve games. As I'm

752
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 8: hyping up all their skilled players, but they, I mean

753
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 8: probably gonna want to have a decent amount of guys

754
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 8: in the box, seven eight guys in the box against

755
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 8: gent And you just realized.

756
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 5: That the way we're looking at all these teams is

757
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 5: the same way they're looking at us. It's like that's

758
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,239
Speaker 5: a winnable game. The paid like every one of these

759
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 5: teams were saying the Raiders are a winnable game. The

760
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 5: Raiders are saying the Patriots winnable game.

761
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: Yep Emery writes in red zone work, he puts in

762
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: quotes can meet a lot of different things.

763
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 4: Was it first and ten from the.

764
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: Twenty third and go from the five first quarter trailing

765
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: in the fourth Drake's incentive to force the ball or

766
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: throw it away are massively different depending on the details.

767
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 4: Can you please expand and what red zone work meant today? Yeah?

768
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah, I mean it's I can give it right

769
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 5: to you. They started seven on seven in the red

770
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 5: zone and then they moved into eleven on eleven. The

771
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 5: first portion was going from the thirty five into the eighteen,

772
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: and they were those were running through first, second, third

773
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 5: downs consistently. The second one they moved to the eighteen,

774
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 5: did four reps there, and then the final one was

775
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 5: red zone plus twelve to the plus three, so right

776
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 5: down to the end. But a lot of those were yeah,

777
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 5: like the touchdown throw to Diggs was a third down

778
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 5: touchdown throw. A couple of the couple of the groupings

779
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 5: they had four reps, but for the most part it

780
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 5: was first, second, third down for Drake or for Dobbs,

781
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 5: whoever was in there at those specific yardages. So you're

782
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 5: totally right, that's that's good context to provide it.

783
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 7: It was fair.

784
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 5: It wasn't live scrimmage, but it was first, second, third

785
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 5: down that side of the field that you're you're building

786
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 5: up towards.

787
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,040
Speaker 3: Actual I would just say that none of it was

788
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 3: got to have it place like, none of it was

789
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: like he's just forcing it because you know, it doesn't

790
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: matter if it's incomplete or not.

791
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 6: The game's over. There were no situations like.

792
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 5: You've never gotten the sense in this camp that's happened

793
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 5: in camps before, where it's very able putting the ball

794
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 5: in all right offense, whoever wins this gets push ups.

795
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 6: There hasn't been any of that kind of stuff either

796
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 6: where it was.

797
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: And I would also say that it doesn't really matter

798
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 3: what quarter it is, you know, unless, like I said,

799
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: it's like the game is ending and it's you know,

800
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 3: you lose if this is incomplete, you don't want to

801
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 3: like throw it away. Yeah, you know you're forcing one

802
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: in there. But these practice reps doesn't matter.

803
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 6: If it's first quarter or fourth quarter.

804
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: It's you know, yeah, they're trying to execute the red

805
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 3: score points.

806
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 4: That's the job.

807
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 8: They did have some quarterback round stuff in there today

808
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 8: that I thought was interesting.

809
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 6: But I know I was talking about that.

810
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 7: It didn't go so.

811
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 8: Hot, I would say, but you know, that's that's again

812
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 8: another thing that's gonna take some timing and you know,

813
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 8: a chemistry to build it, the mesh points and all

814
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 8: that fancy stuff. But it was I'm interested, you know,

815
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 8: I'm a little bit excited.

816
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 7: As a little bit about it too. I don't know

817
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 7: if you heard that, but yeah.

818
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 8: It's good that it's in there, and we'll see how

819
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 8: much they actually end up using it. But you know,

820
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 8: I've been found on the table for it, especially in

821
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 8: the low red zone, like down by the goal line,

822
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 8: like he can just waltz right in if you know

823
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 8: the end crashes, He's just gonna walk into the end zone.

824
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 8: So you might as well have him be a threat

825
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 8: to at least be able to do that. So we'll

826
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 8: see how much of that they end up doing. But

827
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 8: there was some of that today.

828
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: John Wrightson and Paul will love this email. Are you

829
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: guys only going to slam Drake May for two hours?

830
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 2: He's been excellent every other day.

831
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: Well, I would say he wasn't excellent on Saturday. He

832
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: was up and down on Saturday. I thought he was

833
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: better than most other people thought he was. But I

834
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 3: don't think he was excellent on Saturday under anybody's of you.

835
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 3: So we're gonna comment on what he's what he's like

836
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: that day. I'm not going to tell you that he was.

837
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 3: I mean, Kyle Williams was really good on last Wednesday.

838
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 3: I haven't really seen a whole lot from him since today.

839
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 14: Today.

840
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 3: I thought he had a horrific back shoulder dropped today

841
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 3: on one of the best throws that May made.

842
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 7: He did have him dropped into the end zone.

843
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: It was down it was downfield. I don't know if

844
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: it was in the end zone, but it was a

845
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,840
Speaker 3: great time level. Yeah, and that's what you have trouble seeing.

846
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: And that's why I saw it perfectly. He has hit

847
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: him perfect hit him right on the shoulder.

848
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 6: And he dropped.

849
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 2: Because one of our emails, you were saying you don't

850
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: like using binoculars. He was saying that they have a

851
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 2: new thing that you might be interested in. There were

852
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 2: some glasses.

853
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 4: I wear glasses to see distance.

854
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean that's I wear contact lenses so I

855
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 3: can see so wise, I would.

856
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 4: Walk into the trouble.

857
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 6: See there's a long your way.

858
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 4: So why didn't you use the binoculars.

859
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: I don't like binocars. I like to see everybody. I

860
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 3: don't want to just see the two guys that you

861
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 3: can see in the monocotar.

862
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 4: That's not how binoculars work. Pull I kind of a

863
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: bunch of things.

864
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 6: You zoom in on one individual, you.

865
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 4: Don't have to. I see. I see a whole line

866
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 4: when I'm in.

867
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 3: I told the boys today that it was interesting that today,

868
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: after we had the whole thing yesterday, they did everything

869
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 3: down the.

870
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 6: Far end of the field.

871
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: I was like, no, we were.

872
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 6: They could probably see a little bit better than me today.

873
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 3: Now I wouldn't have been able to see because it

874
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: was even further away from it. But it's like, you

875
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: have a problem seeing one hundred feet, so let's go

876
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: four hundred feet in the air so it's even further away.

877
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 6: Like that, that's a good solution. I would good suggestion.

878
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: I would take things that Paul says with a little

879
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: grain of salt, because he's not really even through millions.

880
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: Of people I know.

881
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 3: Evan watches the game unlike you did you see the

882
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: early It was an early reping team. It was maybe

883
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: the second series of plays that that Drake had. I

884
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 3: thought the timing was perfect on a back shoulder throw

885
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 3: that Kyle Williams job to give me that.

886
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 6: It's interesting.

887
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: There's only one guy here that didn't see it. You

888
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: he saw, but he just blocked it out of his

889
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: memory because time did.

890
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: I not.

891
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 3: But not on the air. You're saying that I couldn't

892
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: see it because I was at field.

893
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 4: But you have troubles perfect. You have trouble seeing. You

894
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: admit it. You have trouble seeing.

895
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 2: I do have trouble saying, but I saw that, So

896
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 2: we have to Yeah, the negative one. But you know

897
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: some people have rose colored. You know, he has this

898
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 2: like dark cloud colored.

899
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 3: Now now, now I'm not anymore too negative. I've been

900
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 3: getting made fun of it being too positive all camp.

901
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: Now I'm too negative.

902
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 8: I have I just the email or don't want me

903
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 8: to get They can have their own takes.

904
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 7: That's okay. But I think Drake's been fine. I think

905
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 7: he has been too.

906
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 8: I don't like he hasn't completed every pass, but like

907
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 8: I've seen exactly what I wanted to see out of

908
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 8: him for the most part, Like he is not going

909
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 8: to be Tom Brady. He's not going to complete seventy

910
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 8: five percent of the pass in a training camp. Practice

911
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:01,959
Speaker 8: is not the style.

912
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: I've had no issues with Drake may. I don't think

913
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: today was one of his better days.

914
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 7: I agree with you. But he's going to have those sprays.

915
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 8: He's going to have the erratic throws, and he's probably

916
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 8: going to have what three four of them a game

917
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 8: that you're like, where was that one going? But then

918
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 8: he's also going to drop one in the bucket of

919
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 8: Pop Douglas sixty yards down the field off platform, and

920
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 8: you're going to be like, oh right, yep, Like that's

921
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 8: that's why he's The throat that was so good.

922
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 6: I think I've written about it three different times, right.

923
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 8: So, like, you know, the throat of booty at the

924
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 8: end of practice. I thought was ending it on a

925
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 8: high note. I thought he made a nice throw that

926
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 8: Fred mentioned earlier, the feeder throat of Stefan Dix, you know,

927
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 8: right over Craig Woodson.

928
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 7: Williams fade.

929
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: Yep, but Kyle Williams fade touchdown when they work in

930
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: the hut in there in the red zone.

931
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 4: It's not that hard, but it has. Tony told me,

932
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 4: who's Tony?

933
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 5: It's funny that this email though he's right in so

934
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 5: we would stop talking about it, and now we're just

935
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:00,919
Speaker 5: going to double down on top about Drake's day.

936
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 6: Just like I don't I don't really have time for children.

937
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: I really don't like if you don't want to hear that,

938
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: like the offensive line has been an issue at times,

939
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: don't listen.

940
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 6: Just pretend it's not an issue. If you don't want

941
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 6: to hear that.

942
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 3: Drake May made a lot of really good throws that

943
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: were really tough on Saturday, but he also missed some.

944
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 6: Don't listen, Like I don't want to tell you not

945
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 6: to listen.

946
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 3: Obviously we want everybody that we can, but I can't

947
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: just make it up right now.

948
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm only kidding. Oh, I know you.

949
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 5: And that's what's like funny, is like Evan and I

950
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 5: watched practice and I walk down, you know, go right

951
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 5: up to Paul and would you think and it's just like, yeah,

952
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 5: we both watched the same practice.

953
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 4: You know, that's for everybody. Everybody.

954
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: No, there's times where, like as I said on Saturday,

955
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: I had all of those guys making fun of me

956
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 3: because I thought, because of the level of difficulty on

957
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: some of the throws that Drake May was pretty good

958
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 3: on Saturday. Everybody else that covered the practice thought he

959
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 3: was really erratic, and I was like, Oh, it's kind

960
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 3: of hard to complete a twenty five yard over route

961
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 3: with a guy in your grill. Today he didn't have

962
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: guys in his grill as often, so when he was

963
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 3: missing some throws today, I was a little bit less

964
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 3: forgiving on some of the misfires. Tomorrow he might be

965
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: perfect and we'll say that he was perfect.

966
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 8: I just feel like, you know, I think the scribes

967
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 8: had him seven for fourteen today, and given where the

968
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 8: field position was and where they were working, like I

969
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 8: kind of expect a quarterback to go seven for fourteen

970
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 8: when they're throwing the ball from the three yard line,

971
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 8: like those are going to be tight windows, those are

972
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,760
Speaker 8: gonna be hard passes to complete. So I'm not surprised

973
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 8: that it wasn't perfect. And I don't think his accuracy

974
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 8: is perfect, Like, I don't think he's a precision quarterback.

975
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 2: You know, It's so funny here in New England because

976
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 2: other than Tom Brady, we've never had a hot you know,

977
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: a top quarterback to watch in training camp.

978
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 4: You know Cam Newton and Mac Jones, and.

979
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 7: I don't forget about Bailey Zappy.

980
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: Though, you know, so, like I wonder what it looks

981
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: like at other places for you know, like like.

982
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 4: One of the better quarterbacks.

983
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 2: Like what does the first week of practice look like

984
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 2: for you know a quarterback, like a top fifteen quarterback.

985
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 5: Let's say, I mean, I just say real quick for me, like,

986
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 5: I've been surprised at how well Drake has looked through

987
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 5: these early practices. I expected that there would be some hesitation,

988
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 5: some not quite knowing where to go with it, that

989
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 5: kind of thing. But he's been really good picking up

990
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 5: the offense. It seems like knowing where to go with

991
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 5: the ball being decisive. So the last couple of days

992
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 5: and I'm probably a little bit more on the everybody

993
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 5: making fun of Paul side than Paul's side. From Saturdays,

994
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 5: I thought he was erratic and missed some throws, but

995
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 5: again today, like I thought a lot of those, I've

996
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 5: seen him make those throws and it's not like the

997
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 5: offense looks like too much for him. It's not push

998
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 5: the panic button. Anybody who played sports they ever have

999
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: a bad day of practice where you felt a little off,

1000
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: Well maybe that was what today was. But again that

1001
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 5: what I'm excited now is to see how does he

1002
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 5: bounce back tomorrow? How does he take this performance with

1003
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: which Again, the first thing Harold Landry says is the

1004
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 5: offense kind of took it to us that, you know,

1005
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 5: and the coaches were kind of on us and we

1006
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: so now it's time for the offense to try to

1007
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 5: respond and get their buzzing gear.

1008
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 2: Rick in Riverside, Rhode Island, he has two points. Booty

1009
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: may not be a number one, but he's solid and

1010
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: had some big plays last year. Do you see him

1011
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: benefiting from Josh's system and Diggs drawing more attention? I

1012
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: think he can be a fifty sixty catch eight to

1013
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: ten touchdown player. And his second point is the O

1014
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: line looks much improved with a talent in flux creating

1015
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 2: strong camp competition. Do you see Remandre benefiting from a

1016
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,759
Speaker 2: revamped O line. I know we had the fumbles last year,

1017
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: but he is still a good to great running back.

1018
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: So the first point, what about Booty.

1019
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 7: Pody a nice practice say?

1020
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 5: I think Paul said a couple of days ago feels

1021
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 5: like he's a little bit of a slow starter. I

1022
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 5: think he's been a little bit more quiet than Diggs

1023
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 5: and Douglas have been.

1024
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 7: Through the early practices.

1025
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 5: But as Evan pointed out, he caught a TD to

1026
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 5: wrap up today, you know, from Drake nice throw.

1027
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 7: So I think he's absolutely in the mix. I don't

1028
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 7: evenally consider him on the bubble.

1029
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 5: We'll see how it develops over the course of the

1030
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 5: year if Kyle Williams maybe is able to eat into

1031
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 5: some of his snaps.

1032
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 7: He's been good, but he's he's been solid. Yeah, I

1033
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 7: mean it's not flashy, you know, he's not you know,

1034
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 7: but I think he's for the role that they need

1035
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 7: him for. I think he'll be He'll be pretty.

1036
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 8: Eight to ten touchdowns is a lot. I would say,

1037
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 8: maybe you're closer to him potentially on the reception side,

1038
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 8: Like I don't necessarily watch key Shan Boody and think,

1039
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 8: like red zone threat that all of a sudden he's

1040
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 8: going to start racking up a bunch of touchdowns.

1041
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 4: But I.

1042
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 8: Think that for the role that they want that X

1043
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 8: receiver to play, which in the past has been referred

1044
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 8: to as just like a sacrificial X, Like you're basically

1045
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 8: just on the outside taking taking the top off, you know,

1046
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 8: occupying the deep safety. If you're one on one backside,

1047
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 8: you might get a target like that that role. I

1048
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 8: don't see why he can't do that. I mean, hopefully

1049
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 8: it's down the route, down the line. They can upgrade

1050
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 8: that spot. But for the time being, he's the best

1051
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,279
Speaker 8: that they got.

1052
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,000
Speaker 2: What do you think about run blocking? Can you make

1053
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 2: any judgment yet?

1054
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 8: It's it's been good. I think through two practices. It's

1055
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 8: two practices, so I think it's premature to make any

1056
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 8: big judgments. But like Campbell and Jared Wilson could really

1057
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 8: help their run blocking. You know, they're both really good

1058
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 8: run blockers, really athletic players as well, so it kind

1059
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 8: of allows them to do some different things, you know,

1060
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,760
Speaker 8: whether it's like tossing or getting up to the second

1061
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 8: level or pulling, you know, either one of those guys,

1062
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 8: Like they have that athleticism and that movement skill, so

1063
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 8: I think they're gonna be able to run the ball

1064
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 8: a little bit if this continues to progress.

1065
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 2: This Dirrection and Campbell he does seem like a maller

1066
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 2: in the run game. He does once he gets his

1067
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: mits on a guy.

1068
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 4: It's all over.

1069
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, he moves his feet. Well he's aggressive and.

1070
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to the phones.

1071
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: James is in belize. What's up?

1072
00:43:51,360 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 15: James, Hey break, Yes, I don't want to talk about football.

1073
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 4: Okay, you don't want to talk about football.

1074
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 15: This is first of all, because I'll call you from

1075
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 15: the middle of nowhere.

1076
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 7: Oh double o seven?

1077
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 1: Is that you?

1078
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 9: I like it?

1079
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 6: What's up?

1080
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:13,799
Speaker 13: So?

1081
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, so's not very much. I'm a visit, like, visiting

1082
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 15: all the local bars to try and find the official

1083
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 15: Patriot bar here, trying to represent the fan club. But

1084
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 15: obviously that takes a lot of information and things like that.

1085
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 15: So I just thought i'd check in and see how things are.

1086
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 15: I think I think mostly like Paul and Mike, there

1087
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 15: are definitely fans, so I think of the majority of

1088
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 15: the stick by you, I'm cautiously optimistic about eight wins.

1089
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 15: If I squinted, I think I can see, you know,

1090
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 15: maybe ten wins, but you know, we'll see how it gets. Yeah,

1091
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 15: those are Michaels.

1092
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: Listen if they have eight wins, even eight wins, and

1093
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: thanks James. Even eight wins is four better than last year,

1094
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 2: and some things will have to go right.

1095
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 4: Now, obviously nine times they.

1096
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: Didn't they ended up losing. But even to get to

1097
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: eight wins, you're gonna have to see a lot of

1098
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: improvement from last year.

1099
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1100
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I've talked to Mike Grease before practice. We've talked

1101
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 5: about a little it's just the last couple of years

1102
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 5: I felt, you know, I felt optimistic last year too,

1103
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 5: And it's just trying to figure out because right now,

1104
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 5: I feel like this looks like a football team. To me,

1105
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: it looks like an NFL football team that's gonna win

1106
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: some games. I don't want to put a number on

1107
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 5: it what it's gonna be, but it looks like a

1108
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 5: team that's gonna have an identity, that's gonna have a

1109
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 5: play style, that's gonna follow.

1110
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 7: The lead of their head coach.

1111
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 5: But even like two years ago, you felt like, yeah,

1112
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 5: it hasn't been great, but we got Bill Belichick and

1113
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 5: it's gonna come together.

1114
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 7: And you know, last year maybe it was a little

1115
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 7: bit more.

1116
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 5: I'm maintaining an open mind, trying to be positive, but

1117
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,919
Speaker 5: this is gonna be something completely new. So I feel

1118
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 5: a little bit like I just I'm not quite sure

1119
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 5: what I believe anymore, Like I need to see and

1120
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: feel like if these guys come out and.

1121
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 8: Looks so you don't know, it's just a kid who

1122
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 8: was told Santa Claus right right.

1123
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 7: It's been hurt.

1124
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 5: But but I mean, you guys have watched plenty of teams,

1125
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 5: and I mean it's you're probably a little skewed because

1126
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: you're watching, you know, the greatest run in football history,

1127
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 5: and the other teams are probably like, you know, more

1128
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 5: up and down. And some quarterbacks aren't just Tom Brady

1129
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 5: where he just seems to keep getting better and every

1130
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 5: year he's awesome. And you know, some guys are like

1131
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson, where it's good and it's bad, and it's

1132
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: good and it's bad, and it's bad and it's bad

1133
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 5: and it's good and it's bad. You know, those kind

1134
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 5: of ups and downs, and when people ask us to

1135
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 5: predict like what we see. I feel really positive about

1136
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 5: the team that they're putting together up there. They might

1137
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 5: have some words, they might not be the greatest team

1138
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 5: in the world yet, but I feel good about.

1139
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 7: The team that they're building right now.

1140
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 5: I don't know what it's going to translate to, but

1141
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 5: I'm just hoping that I'm not again being the cock

1142
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 5: eyed optimist of well, Mike Rabel's running around and doing

1143
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 5: drills and everybody's saying all the right things.

1144
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 6: And you get in the regular season.

1145
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 17: And you're like, oh my god, we don't have those

1146
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:54,919
Speaker 17: means Honestly since Brady left, Paul and have we had

1147
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 17: a training camp time a summer and you get through

1148
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 17: into the you know, September where we said, wow, that

1149
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 17: was a great training camp, that was a great preseason.

1150
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 4: This team's ready to go. Have we had that since Brady?

1151
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 7: Even with Brady?

1152
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: Did you feel that way though?

1153
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 7: I mean, do you still feel kind of like a

1154
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 7: few things?

1155
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 3: So there were a couple of times I did, But

1156
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: to be honest, no, I didn't always think like that.

1157
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 6: I mean, you knew they were good because they had him.

1158
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 3: Right right, that's the greats Like seven, they just looked

1159
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: like it was different, Like you could just tell that

1160
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 3: the team had a look that was really efficient and effective,

1161
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 3: and you could tell that that team was going to.

1162
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 4: Be things that you hadn't seen before.

1163
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean when Brady was here, I always thought, well,

1164
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 3: you know, it's going to be twelve and four minimum,

1165
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 3: you know, are they going to host the championship game?

1166
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 6: Dude got very upset at that, but.

1167
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,920
Speaker 5: You were probably saying the reason they're going to lose

1168
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 5: these four games in training camp is becaurect.

1169
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 7: I don't think like we don't have the depth on

1170
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 7: the defensive.

1171
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:53,479
Speaker 4: You know, we can't.

1172
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 6: I used to argue with Bill O'Brien.

1173
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: Bill O'Brien used to give Andy and I a hard

1174
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 3: time about it, like, I don't know how you guys

1175
00:47:59,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 3: do it.

1176
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 6: I don't know how you guys.

1177
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 3: And we explained to them, like Billy, we're not saying

1178
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 3: that the team's not great. What we're saying is is

1179
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 3: there something about the team that's going to cause you

1180
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 3: to have to go on the road in a big

1181
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 3: playoff game? And you know, and it would be something

1182
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 3: like that, like I don't know if they have enough

1183
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 3: depth at corner like that nickelback spot, or you know,

1184
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 3: where are they going to get you know, the pass

1185
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 3: rush from you know beyond X or whatever, you know something.

1186
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 3: It was never like I don't know if they have

1187
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: a number one receiver, Well, I don't know if they

1188
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 3: have an answer at left tackle.

1189
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:33,839
Speaker 6: It was never something like that.

1190
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 3: It was always like a depth related secondary piece that

1191
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 3: might be the difference between twelve and fourteen wins. Now

1192
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: we just we just want to get back to respectability.

1193
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I feel like that's like the way I see

1194
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 8: what's been going on really since the spring is like

1195
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 8: I feel like they're going to put eleven guys in

1196
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 8: the field that know what they're doing because of the coaching.

1197
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:56,720
Speaker 8: Like I feel like they're going to be coach correctly

1198
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 8: and they're going to know their assignments and they're going

1199
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 8: to play fundamentally sound. I think that they're gonna be

1200
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 8: able to do all that. You know, where the roster

1201
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 8: is and where that is are two different things. Like

1202
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 8: there's a professional football player, so there's a if you

1203
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,920
Speaker 8: coach him right, they can get to that level of

1204
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 8: like we're competent, right, right, But are they gonna have

1205
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 8: the top end talent in certain areas? Are they gonna

1206
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 8: have the depth in certain areas? I think that still

1207
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 8: remains to be seen.

1208
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 5: Looking back, I feel like I looked at certainly twenty nineteen,

1209
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 5: my first season here, when Brady was still here, but

1210
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 5: even after Brady left, no matter what happened in camp,

1211
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 5: I think I would defer to we have Bill Belichick.

1212
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 5: We have the greatest coach of all time. It's gonna

1213
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,800
Speaker 5: pull together, even no matter how things look in camp.

1214
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 5: He's a good enough coach, he's gonna pull it together.

1215
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,759
Speaker 5: And maybe I, you know, had the wool pulled over

1216
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,080
Speaker 5: my eyes a little bit with those observations twenty three,

1217
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 5: twenty four.

1218
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 7: Now you're starting not to.

1219
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 5: Just blindly believe that this team's gonna somehow pull it together.

1220
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: And right now, I really do feel really good about

1221
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 5: what they're building out there, and it's just I'm you know,

1222
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,360
Speaker 5: I'm trying not to be like over the moon because

1223
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 5: I know it's not going to be as great as

1224
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 5: you think it could possibly be, but I still think

1225
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 5: it could be really good. And what I've seen from

1226
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 5: this team in the first week, I really believe in

1227
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 5: Mike Rabel as a coach.

1228
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 7: I believe in the program that he's doing.

1229
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 5: I just hope that they have the talent to really

1230
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 5: trade punches with these really good teams that they inevitably

1231
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 5: have to face up and down there.

1232
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 2: I'm just wondering, is there things that you need to

1233
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 2: see in August, in the month of August to be

1234
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: able to definitively say, yeah, this offense is going to

1235
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 2: be okay.

1236
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, It's hard, right, It.

1237
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 5: Is hard because it is you talk about joint practices

1238
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 5: and yeah, you know, I'm sure Philly came out of

1239
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 5: here feeling like, well, maybe the Patriots just stunk last

1240
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 5: year and their offensive line was terrible, and you know,

1241
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 5: or they felt like, wow, we are primed to do

1242
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 5: what we're about to do.

1243
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 7: It's so hard. It's just it goes back to the

1244
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:56,760
Speaker 7: only real truth is games.

1245
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 5: And no matter what we talk about from preseason, from

1246
00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 5: joint practices, from OTAs and all this stuff, and we

1247
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 5: certainly get information about how the coaches feel about players,

1248
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 5: and we see big plays, but how's it all going

1249
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 5: to come together in an organic game setting where there's

1250
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 5: ups and downs on the flow of the game and

1251
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,280
Speaker 5: this team needs mental toughness and they need to preserve

1252
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 5: a lead or they need to come from behind, like.

1253
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 7: All those characteristics.

1254
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 5: I just I don't think there's any way to know

1255
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 5: from what happens in August up to August until they

1256
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 5: blow the whistle and it's kick off week one.

1257
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 8: This cam feels a little bit like twenty one to me,

1258
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 8: Like they've had this free agency class that they brought

1259
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 8: in that has some guys that you feel like are

1260
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 8: veteran players that are proven commodities in the league, and

1261
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 8: you're not filling holes with guys that are really not

1262
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 8: meant to be in those roles, Like Millan Williams is

1263
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 8: a starting defensive lineman, Morgan Moses is starting tackle in

1264
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 8: the NFL. But we know what free agency is, we

1265
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 8: know that that's not really where the top end talent is.

1266
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,839
Speaker 8: So the difference is is you hope that Drake May

1267
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 8: is better than Mac Jones and you hope that Will

1268
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,399
Speaker 8: Campbell is better than some of the guys that they

1269
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:01,439
Speaker 8: drafted in that timeframe. But I feel like what I'm

1270
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 8: watching feels similar to that, where it's like, Okay, they're

1271
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 8: going to be competent, and that your competent men ten

1272
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 8: wins in the playoff Berth. I don't know where it's

1273
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 8: going to get them this year, but we'll see. I

1274
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 8: think offensively, you want to see them be able to

1275
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 8: be multiple, Like can they do everything at their disposal

1276
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 8: to move the football? When you're one dimensional, if you

1277
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 8: can't run the ball, you can't pass, block, you can't run, block,

1278
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 8: you can't throw.

1279
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,960
Speaker 6: You make it easier to defend.

1280
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 8: So if they can, that would be my sequence at

1281
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 8: all together, then they can smart.

1282
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 3: The way even't just put that I think is perfect,

1283
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,359
Speaker 3: and I would want to make sure that they do

1284
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 3: not have to do a lot of really different things

1285
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: to scheme around pass protection, scheme around the tackles, because

1286
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 3: I think that's a hard I mean, you can do it,

1287
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 3: and I know Josh can get away from a little.

1288
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 3: Josh will be better at it than Alexander. But I

1289
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 3: think you're very limited if you can only do it

1290
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 3: one way, you know, and then you know, in other words,

1291
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 3: you have to glue. Somebody will campbell every time you

1292
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 3: face a speed rusher like that's not ideal.

1293
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 2: So in the past, you know, no matter what it

1294
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: looked like, we had faith in Belichick that he'll figure

1295
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: it out. That faith started to erode, I think really

1296
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 2: in the Patricia year where he named him offensive coordinator

1297
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: and it didn't look good and it wasn't good. Like

1298
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 2: even I was saying, oh, it'll be fine. You know,

1299
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 2: it's Belichick, he knows what he's doing. Patricia was used

1300
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: to be a head coach. He knows football. It'll be fun.

1301
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

1302
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 18: It was.

1303
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 4: It was terrible.

1304
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 2: And then every and then the next year was even

1305
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 2: when you had Bill O'Brien.

1306
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 4: It just still didn't look good.

1307
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 2: You were thinking, Okay, we'll get out of August and

1308
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 2: Bill O'Brien's a good offensive coordinator, he'll make it fine.

1309
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: It still wasn't good, and there wasn't any indications in

1310
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 2: the summer that it would be. We just had faith

1311
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: in Bill O'Brien. But that didn't work either. And so

1312
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 2: I'm a little bit, you know, still traumatized by that. Now.

1313
00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 2: I do believe in Mike Rabel. I think he is

1314
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: a good coach, and like you said, it does seem

1315
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 2: like they're buttoned up and he is stressing the fundamentals

1316
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 2: and situation will play and taking care of taking advantage

1317
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: of bad football.

1318
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 4: So you hope that that's true.

1319
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 2: But we got to see it now like where you know,

1320
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: where where a fan base that's been kind of, like

1321
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 2: I said, traumatized over the last few.

1322
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 8: There's a couple of things and like that to that

1323
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 8: point about like buttoning things up, like Tyrus Tonga just

1324
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 8: comes unblocked through the a gap today and and sacks

1325
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 8: drink may and like under a second, like you can't

1326
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 8: have that like that, you can't have that.

1327
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,880
Speaker 4: So like, oh, yesterday it was speline came.

1328
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:40,160
Speaker 8: Unbelowing, right, but like that's at least a blitz from

1329
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 8: the second level, Right, you can't have the nose tackle

1330
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 8: standing right over the center going what happened? You know,

1331
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 8: Like so that's that's unacceptable.

1332
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: And we saw that like I don't know if it

1333
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: was last year, last year when you'd have linemen just

1334
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 2: like in space, like who am I blocking?

1335
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: Right?

1336
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 4: So, like the communication was terrible?

1337
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 8: Does Raybell take that next step of like being like no,

1338
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 8: like where that is? You know, this is where the

1339
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 8: s that gets you beat? Yeah, right, Like that's in

1340
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 8: that category, not part of that gets you beat, you know,

1341
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 8: the snaps like they had they've had three aborted snaps

1342
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 8: at this point through six practices. Like they got to

1343
00:55:15,600 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 8: clean that up. That goes in that bucket too, yep.

1344
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 8: And if that stops, like by next week, if all

1345
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 8: that kind of stuff stops because they clean it up,

1346
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 8: then I feel like I'm going to be feeling pretty

1347
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 8: good about where they're going. But the one thing that

1348
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,920
Speaker 8: has to be optimistic about the offense is I think

1349
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 8: that they're going to be able to run block. And

1350
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 8: if they can run block, then you can scheme stuff

1351
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 8: off the run game, you get play action involved, you

1352
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 8: move the pocket like you do, different things like that

1353
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 8: that are around the run game that aren't necessarily about

1354
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 8: volume of run game. But if they can truly run

1355
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 8: block like that, then you can be optimistic about that's

1356
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 8: a foundation of an offense. That's like an identity of

1357
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 8: an offense, and hopefully that continues in that direction. But

1358
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 8: can't have Kiros Tong. He's three hundred and forty pounds. Like,

1359
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 8: no one put a hat on that guy, Like.

1360
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 7: It's kind of hard to miss.

1361
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, Javon's in New York? What's up? Javaon?

1362
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 11: Hey?

1363
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 4: Javaon?

1364
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 11: No?

1365
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 4: Okay? How about Dan and Vermont? Hey Dan?

1366
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 2: Dan?

1367
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 4: Okay, that's how you.

1368
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 6: If Patty doesn't come through, it's time to push away

1369
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 6: from the table.

1370
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 4: Patty's an agawam? What's up? Patty?

1371
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 14: Guys?

1372
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: Are you okay?

1373
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 13: Cann Senior day, Just a question on the right tackle position.

1374
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 19: Has Mark Marcus Bryant and John Jack Connelly haven't taken

1375
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 19: any reps at right tackle? And these tup added practices?

1376
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 19: Because I don't know about you, guys, but demonstra Jacob

1377
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 19: Scar's the hell out of me if he has to

1378
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 19: play any extended time.

1379
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a little bit, but not not in any

1380
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 8: meaningful eleven on eleven work. Conley has played some tackle

1381
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 8: both sides, like with the threes and like that stuff

1382
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 8: like that, like opportunity reps for those guys. But yeah,

1383
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 8: I mean right now, like having a I'm gonna give

1384
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 8: Morgan Moses the benefit of the doubt for now, Like

1385
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 8: he's a twelve year veteran in it's training camp and

1386
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 8: like a lot of guys don't even show up to

1387
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 8: training camp this time of year anymore in his shoes.

1388
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 8: So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But

1389
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 8: is he gonna be there for seventeen games is a

1390
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 8: real question. And if it is, Demontre Jacobs is his

1391
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 8: top backup or Caden Wallace kicks back outside or whatever

1392
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 8: the case may be, Like they have to figure out

1393
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 8: they need to have a functional backup right tackle because

1394
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 8: I don't know if Morgan Moses is gonna be there

1395
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 8: for you know, the entire season, Like he's probably gonna

1396
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 8: have some bumps in the road.

1397
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: Yep.

1398
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 4: Sean's in Virginia.

1399
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 2: Hey Sean, Okay, I mean you talk.

1400
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 20: About this as far as like the death of the

1401
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 20: team like that, you know whatever. I guess people to

1402
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 20: be perfect, you know, because I don't really see the

1403
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 20: talking being appropriate. At least graft I can think about

1404
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 20: this that we all can really agree of funds, it's

1405
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 20: really uh that this team actually does have guys and

1406
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 20: talking different teams. I mean, that's what we have said

1407
00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 20: in the past. So obviously that you can compete against

1408
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 20: the best of the best, because I guess songs kind

1409
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 20: of a players, so they didn't have the best.

1410
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 4: Okay, is there a question there or no?

1411
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 20: No, not necessarily just talking about the team as far

1412
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 20: as everybody to be perfect and you know, in not

1413
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 20: different ways. But yeah, even even the contenders that we

1414
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 20: named don't have that.

1415
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's it's it's never perfect. It's never perfect.

1416
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: But I think you know, thanks Sean. You know, we're

1417
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: kind of doing.

1418
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 4: What the coaches do.

1419
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: We're we're really getting into the weeds and analyzing, you know,

1420
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 2: almost every play, who had a good one, who didn't

1421
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,960
Speaker 2: have a good one? You know, on a play that

1422
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 2: the defense wins, you know, somebody in the offense. You

1423
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: could say somebody in the offense didn't do their jobs,

1424
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 2: or you can look at it the other way. Somebody

1425
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 2: on the defense did a really good job, but you

1426
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,480
Speaker 2: have to do that. That's what practice is all about.

1427
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 2: They go after the each practice, they go and they

1428
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: look at each you know, play and they break it

1429
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: down and then they present it back to the players

1430
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 2: and you know, they call out who had who did what,

1431
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: and that's how you get better. So no, it's it's

1432
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 2: not perfect. It's just impossible to be perfect. And I

1433
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: don't think that's the expectation here, you know.

1434
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 7: I think it's about figuring out.

1435
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 2: But if you have three botch snaps, those are three

1436
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 2: botch snaps. Those are those are clear mistakes. You have

1437
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 2: to call those out.

1438
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: A couple of those were like, you know, to go

1439
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: back to Evans's point, you know, the bleep that gets

1440
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:55,439
Speaker 3: you beat.

1441
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:56,960
Speaker 6: A couple of them were in the red zone.

1442
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,920
Speaker 3: So that's potentially taking points off the boards at least four,

1443
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 3: but maybe even seven. You know, if you're losing the possession,

1444
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,440
Speaker 3: that's the stuff you can't overcome.

1445
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 6: You can't. You got to It's not a stride for perfection.

1446
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 3: I mean, I know all coaches want to strive for

1447
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:17,840
Speaker 3: perfection knowing that they can't achieve it. But We're not

1448
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 3: like nitpicking things. These are major, major problems that need

1449
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,480
Speaker 3: to get cleaned up. You know that we're you know,

1450
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 3: the things that we're talking about specifically are issues that

1451
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 3: last year were problems all summer and they carried over

1452
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 3: into the station.

1453
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 2: And at the same time, you know, you want to

1454
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 2: focus on the center position, you know, the three bunch snaps,

1455
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: but we're also saying that Jared Wilson is a bright

1456
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,520
Speaker 2: spot at center, like he could be a guy pushing

1457
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: for a job either there or at left Guard. You know,

1458
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 2: even with those and I don't think I think he

1459
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 2: only had one of the bunch snaps a little.

1460
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 7: Paul, Well, we're in disagreement.

1461
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, that's another one that I'm positive, Paul,

1462
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 3: I think two of them are on Bradbury.

1463
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 2: Okay, But regardless whether it's you know, Wilson or Bradbury,

1464
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 2: you know, if it's Wilson, we think that that's a

1465
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 2: positive so far.

1466
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 4: He's a guy pushing, pushing, a veteran for a starting

1467
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 4: job right now.

1468
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a I just love how Rabel Bricks broke

1469
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 8: it down, the good, the bad, and the stuff that

1470
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 8: gets you believe the beat because it's just like that's

1471
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 8: so perfect, Like that's exactly what it is. And like

1472
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 8: some of the throws that like to the caller's point,

1473
01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 8: it has to be perfect, Like some of the throws

1474
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 8: we were talking about earlier that Drake missed today.

1475
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 7: That's just the bad. That's not the stuff that gets

1476
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 7: you beat.

1477
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: Right now.

1478
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 8: The stuff that gets you beat is letting Kiro's tongue

1479
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,400
Speaker 8: come through the a gap unblocked. That gets you beat.

1480
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 8: The box snaps get you beat. There actually haven't been

1481
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 8: a ton of turnovers. They haven't thrown a ton of picks.

1482
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 3: I think there's only been two picks the whole camp,

1483
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 3: which is all the quarterbacks, So.

1484
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 6: That's just straight. I don't think Drake's thrown any.

1485
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 7: He hasn't thrown any yet.

1486
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 8: Now he's had a couple dropped, but he you know,

1487
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 8: he hasn't thrown any had some turnover worthy plays. But

1488
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 8: that's the stuff that gets you beat. The stuff that

1489
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 8: we're talking about is kind of you know, some of

1490
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 8: the throws and that's nipicking. Like already kind of had

1491
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 8: Hunter Henry there and he sailed it a little bit

1492
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 8: and it was like that that's the bad, and like

1493
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 8: I'm that stuff's not going to lose you games necessarily

1494
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 8: like the other stuff will. So that's not perfect, right,

1495
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:22,160
Speaker 8: Like that's by definition.

1496
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, even without the expanding beyond the context of a

1497
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:26,840
Speaker 5: game and getting beat. It's you know, what issues are

1498
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 5: they are we seeing in camp that are going to

1499
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 5: be problems into the season, and what issues which I

1500
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 5: would think, like the snap are things that are camp

1501
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 5: clean up stuff like that shouldn't be an issue.

1502
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 7: If that's an issue, you got major problems.

1503
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 5: But you know, some of this stuff, I think with

1504
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 5: the just overall depth and the performance level in important positions,

1505
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 5: that's the stuff that you're really trying to identify and

1506
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,040
Speaker 5: lock down and figure out what the answers are going

1507
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 5: to be, because you know, I still think like not

1508
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 5: that west Schweitzer was the answer, but I think, you know,

1509
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 5: to have another veteran guard to maybe it played some

1510
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 5: games at this point, looks like that might be nice

1511
01:02:59,400 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 5: to have.

1512
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 7: Maybe that's something they're on the lookout for.

1513
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:01,240
Speaker 1: I have.

1514
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 8: I don't think that col Strange has been terrible.

1515
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 6: I think he's I think he's been pretty good.

1516
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 7: Passable grade for him.

1517
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,640
Speaker 8: Like, so I would say, like if it's him and

1518
01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 8: Jared Wilson or Bradbury at center, Like I would still

1519
01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 8: put Jared Wilson at left guard.

1520
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 7: That's just me.

1521
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 8: But maybe that's just because I can't get over the

1522
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:19,440
Speaker 8: whole having a twenty two year old rookie at center

1523
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 8: like that just worries me. But in general, I think

1524
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 8: that Cole Strange has been okay. So maybe that is

1525
01:03:26,320 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 8: that's your interiors. It's strange Wilson.

1526
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,320
Speaker 4: You know they did it with David Andrews. He was fine.

1527
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, but David Andrews was like a four or five

1528
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 8: year starter at Georgia. Like we were talking about a

1529
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 8: twenty two year old kid who started twelve games at Georgia,

1530
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 8: and so like it's just a lot. It's a lot

1531
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,280
Speaker 8: to put on him. And you already have a second

1532
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 8: year quarterback and there's a lot on his plate. And

1533
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,240
Speaker 8: so it's just you have a very young battery. Like

1534
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Speaker 22: You were a rookie with the Pittsburgh Steelers. I believe

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Speaker 22: in your first padded practice, you might have gotten into

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Speaker 22: a fight. Should I assume that you don't want your

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Speaker 22: rookies doing that.

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Speaker 23: I don't want any of us doing that.

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Speaker 1: It's a long time ago, Karen.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, can you give a little details?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you a follow up. Have the players been told

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01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 1: that they can't do it? Of course, I mean we don't.

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Speaker 23: I mean we want to be able to practice the

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01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 23: same way we have to.

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Speaker 1: Play, which is physical and within the rules.

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Speaker 23: And I have a great play demeanor, finished through the

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01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 23: whistle and all those things. And you know if you

1618
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 23: throw a punch or you get kicked out of the game,

1619
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,439
Speaker 23: which is going to cross the team. So I don't

1620
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 23: anticipate any of that. I want us to celebrate with

1621
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,080
Speaker 23: our team, and the defensive unit celebrate with each other.

1622
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:18,400
Speaker 23: Offensive unit, get excited and celebrate with each other. Now

1623
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,879
Speaker 23: get into the taunting and the things that we would

1624
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 23: you know that we can't.

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Speaker 1: Have during the game.

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Speaker 22: Did you at least win?

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Speaker 23: I think I did. It's a good story about don't

1628
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 23: use the fight. But the about a veteran player, Greg

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01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 23: Lloyd was a very dominant player, imposing figure, and I

1630
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 23: got drafted in April and he didn't say a word

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01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,519
Speaker 23: to me through OTAs and I'm on the defense, mind you,

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Speaker 23: And so I didn't say a word to me.

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Speaker 1: The entire offseason. We go to training camp.

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Speaker 23: You know, there was a fight with me and a

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01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 23: tight end and I'm exhausted after practice and I see

1636
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,840
Speaker 23: this like shadow coming over me as I'm sitting in

1637
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 23: the locker room and he's like in his deep voice

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01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 23: and he's like, yeah, the next time, you want to

1639
01:09:07,320 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 23: come up underneath the face mask.

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Speaker 1: And I was like, you just now are going to

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Speaker 1: talk to me.

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Speaker 23: He's like, yeah, I just wanted to make sure you

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01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 23: weren't like a punk, and then I would talk to you.

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01:09:15,479 --> 01:09:18,200
Speaker 23: So it's a good example of just a veteran making

1645
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 23: sure that, you know, rookies kind of earned their stripes,

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01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 23: I guess a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But with the foundation filled, the cancer far to get

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Speaker 1: to the point of yeah, I think.

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Speaker 23: So you know this will be you know, truthfold will

1650
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:32,360
Speaker 23: be down in the red zone. We'll be getting a

1651
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 23: lot of work in the red zone. Things happen a

1652
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,479
Speaker 23: lot quicker down there, Uh, tighter windows, just the speed

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Speaker 23: of everything.

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 1: That could just gets sped up.

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Speaker 23: And so that'll be good for us to move on

1656
01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 23: to that situation as well as to see how we

1657
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 23: you know, start to practice and pads and our pad level,

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01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 23: our fundamentals, our hands and those types of things.

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Speaker 18: Mike, as you share that story and talk about the

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 18: guy not talking to you for a couple of months

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Speaker 18: while you're together, do you feel like it's different in

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Speaker 18: the NFLER with this specific team now.

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Speaker 1: I just think that.

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Speaker 23: That was a Greg That was a Greg Lloyd type

1665
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 23: of thing. I think that's that was certainly his personality.

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01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 23: I think that there's you know, you're always trying to,

1667
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 23: you know, prove yourself to your teammates, especially as a

1668
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 23: young player, and Greg probably took it a little to extreme.

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Speaker 19: After all these OTAs in the first four days without pad.

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Speaker 8: Your your excitement level today maybe on a scale from

1671
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 8: one to ten.

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Speaker 23: I just think coming off of a day off, I

1673
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 23: think this is just another step and in our program.

1674
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:37,760
Speaker 23: So I try to come out here with the same

1675
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 23: excitement and give him everything I got and and help them.

1676
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:46,839
Speaker 23: So this is just another important step throughout the process

1677
01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 23: of preparation. Go ahead, don't you.

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01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 22: What's it been like coming Torell Williams back out there

1679
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 22: with the team defense him?

1680
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Speaker 1: Well, you know, he has an energy to him.

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01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 23: There's there's you know the players are you know, they

1682
01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 23: respond well to him. And when he you know, he

1683
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 23: has his clips that he shows them and the things

1684
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 23: that he thinks are important as a coordinator. You know,

1685
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,680
Speaker 23: I think that they're believing in what we want to

1686
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 23: do in our style of play, and so just keep

1687
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 23: moving ahead. And but it's it's great to have him back,

1688
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 23: just his personality and demeanor.

1689
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Speaker 24: Mike, if you were in our shoes, what would you think,

1690
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,559
Speaker 24: you'd say? You know, you guys should really watch this.

1691
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,639
Speaker 24: You've been doing this for a long time, you know how.

1692
01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 23: I mean if I was the part of the media, Yeah,

1693
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,639
Speaker 23: if you would, like say, you don't think there's ever

1694
01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:35,000
Speaker 23: a scenario where that would happen.

1695
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 24: Oh, that's absolutely a matter of time. He already did

1696
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 24: stuff with Felga fifteen years ago.

1697
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 23: As soon as I'm done with this, I'm gonna be

1698
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Speaker 23: in the witness protection point and you want you will

1699
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Speaker 23: never find me, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, if you decid you would help us.

1701
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Speaker 23: I mean I just think that how maybe some of

1702
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:53,599
Speaker 23: these uh you know, to me, it's it's it's critical

1703
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 23: at a lot of scrimmage, right just being able to

1704
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 23: make contact, there's going to be a stealmate. There's two

1705
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:03,639
Speaker 23: professional players lined up across from each other. Who can

1706
01:12:03,720 --> 01:12:06,560
Speaker 23: re engage, who can reset their feet, maybe get a

1707
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 23: little extra movement. You know, how do we play? Do

1708
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 23: we stand our feet? Can we practice like this and

1709
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 23: stand our feet? We've got a bunch of guys falling

1710
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 23: on the ground. I'd rather not see that. I just

1711
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:23,280
Speaker 23: don't think that that good teams end up practicing that way.

1712
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 23: And again, just the urgency in which we move around

1713
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 23: practice that there's we're in and out of the huddle,

1714
01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 23: the players are running on and off the field. Those

1715
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 23: are all things that I think are critical. I think

1716
01:12:33,720 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 23: that translate to the field to the game.

1717
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 1: Excuse me right where you know?

1718
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 23: You don't you're not standing ten yards behind the ball,

1719
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 23: You're you're coming from the sideline, and we're communicating the

1720
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:48,040
Speaker 23: personnel and the quarterback has to echo that. Those are

1721
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 23: the types of things right now that we're trying to.

1722
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Speaker 2: Build, like us to be having a pretty strong camp.

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Speaker 10: So what have you seen from him?

1724
01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 1: What have you learned about him with this offseason? Right?

1725
01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 23: Great energy, great demeanor, very cochle one of our off

1726
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,800
Speaker 23: season Award winners, So we obviously worked extremely hard. Was

1727
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 23: what was here every day, ready to learn, ready to

1728
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:14,880
Speaker 23: earn a role. And I love being around pop. He's

1729
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 23: got a great, great energy and it's got a lot

1730
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 23: of respect from everybody around here.

1731
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,320
Speaker 2: It's some one on one that passors result a little

1732
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: bit the other day.

1733
01:13:22,240 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 14: How much of that period is for experimentation with new

1734
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 14: moves or techniques versus the evaluation where guys are really

1735
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,519
Speaker 14: obviously trying to win every rep.

1736
01:13:31,479 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I.

1737
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 23: Watch it a little bit. I do think that that's

1738
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,559
Speaker 23: probably a great question. One of the players I coached

1739
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 23: in Houston, Whitney Merciless. You know, we went through some

1740
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 23: developmental things with him. He was a very talented player.

1741
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 23: The one thing I always respected about Whitney was his

1742
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 23: willingness to try new moves during practice and you know, some.

1743
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: Of them wouldn't work.

1744
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,439
Speaker 23: Some of them he needed to see at full speed

1745
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 23: for him to say, you know, that's not something that

1746
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 23: I'm going to commit a lot of time to. And

1747
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 23: then others that you worked and that he would commit

1748
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,519
Speaker 23: time to. So that's exactly why you do practice, is

1749
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,320
Speaker 23: so that you can, you know, sometimes figure out what

1750
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 23: doesn't work and you can eliminate some things and you

1751
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:10,120
Speaker 23: can move on.

1752
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 1: Especially as a pass rusher.

1753
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,599
Speaker 23: Right, you're trying to have a couple of different pitches,

1754
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,800
Speaker 23: not too many, but I certainly need some a fastball

1755
01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 23: and some off speed pitches and some counters. So this

1756
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 23: is why we practice, is to be able to go

1757
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 23: out there and do that.

1758
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:26,719
Speaker 1: And I understand you know a lot of those things.

1759
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 23: And you know when you get to the team periods

1760
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 23: and you get to the games and you can see

1761
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 23: how guys pass rush. But you know, I think that's

1762
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 23: obviously a good thing. The offensive linemen are going to

1763
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 23: work on different techniques and things like that, so they're

1764
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 23: not doing the same thing every single snap.

1765
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 9: And now great moments in history.

1766
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,760
Speaker 6: Are you going for a barbecue?

1767
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 4: I don't know. I know I'm not a big barbecue guy.

1768
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 4: That's wrong with really.

1769
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 2: Now I probably go across the street to like Del

1770
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: Frisco's or something.

1771
01:14:58,960 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 4: Just bring back the memory.

1772
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 1: I hate supuper Bowl week super Bowl which you hate?

1773
01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:08,920
Speaker 4: There three times did expensed everyone's rubber pick?

1774
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 9: One of the one of them was picked up? What

1775
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 9: was the what was the go to? Different things?

1776
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,880
Speaker 7: Different things each time? Are the same thing three times?

1777
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 4: With you might have had.

1778
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:21,000
Speaker 2: Different things, ye, keyboard a steak, but the rabbi than

1779
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 2: the filet i had.

1780
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,759
Speaker 6: Different things, different different parts of the animal.

1781
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 2: But it's literally across the street, so yeah, right there.

1782
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: And there's a great breakfast joint on that street too.

1783
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, your breakfast.

1784
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 5: Yes, if I ever travel scout, I'm in with you

1785
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 5: any break right.

1786
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 3: It's called Desserts House of Pie, that's what it's called.

1787
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 11: I mean, I.

1788
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,520
Speaker 3: Like, yes, definitely.

1789
01:15:54,000 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 23: That's another great moment from.

1790
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 4: Straight off the practice field.

1791
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 9: Is kiris tanga kius.

1792
01:16:02,400 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 4: How you doing?

1793
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 9: I'm doing well? How you doing? I'm Fred Kersh. This

1794
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 9: is Patriots Unfiltered.

1795
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 2: This is the team's podcast, flagship podcast Current and I'll

1796
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 2: have you know this is the world's longest running podcast

1797
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 2: in the world.

1798
01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:17,360
Speaker 4: Really yeah, and.

1799
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 9: I'm not kidding, that's true.

1800
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 2: Part Frank started it, really yeah, back in two thousands.

1801
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 6: He's a little he's a little older than me.

1802
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, a little bit, just a little bit.

1803
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 4: So, how the thing's going for you?

1804
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 9: It's going well, everything's going well, yes, sir, Sorry, that's

1805
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:34,680
Speaker 9: all right. Good things are going good, sir.

1806
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: All right, So you've been around a couple of different teams,

1807
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,800
Speaker 2: any differences on how teams do things in training camp

1808
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: or you know, is it pretty much the same?

1809
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,920
Speaker 9: You know, every team is usually kind of the same.

1810
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 25: They have they have their own little flavors to how

1811
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 25: they like their schedules. But but here, yeah, it's been

1812
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:56,680
Speaker 25: very well, you know, being because variable and how he

1813
01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 25: runs it. He's so I mean he's been in the

1814
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,640
Speaker 25: league and he's been a player in this league, so

1815
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 25: he understands kind of the how the body works for

1816
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 25: players on these long camp days.

1817
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 9: So it's so.

1818
01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 25: Cool to see him tweak schedules and kind of fit

1819
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 25: into our so that we can get the best out

1820
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:14,639
Speaker 25: of and the most out of everything that we do.

1821
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 9: So it's been it's been very cool.

1822
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,080
Speaker 6: I mean, that's interesting. Was there a little bit of

1823
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:18,719
Speaker 6: a tweak today?

1824
01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 3: Because it did seem yesterday you guys were very active

1825
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 3: bouncing around. Today it did seem to be a little

1826
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 3: bit of a lower pace. Was that a tweak to

1827
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:26,679
Speaker 3: the schedule?

1828
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,720
Speaker 25: Yeah, I think just him knowing like, okay, we got

1829
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 25: full pads and making sure our legers are good and

1830
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 25: the days we got to run long, he's gonna make

1831
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 25: sure we're good before the days we got the short

1832
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 25: yard is stuff, make sure that we're using that full

1833
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,960
Speaker 25: maximum effort in those short yardis. So he does a

1834
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 25: very good job of taking care of us.

1835
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he comes off as a tough guy

1836
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: and all that, and he was I mean I was

1837
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 2: here when he was playing.

1838
01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 4: He was a tough guy and he is a tough guy.

1839
01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: But he does have that care for the players, like

1840
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:57,719
Speaker 2: there's no sense in beating everybody up in the first

1841
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 2: last week of July. You know, so like I I,

1842
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 2: you know, I would think players appreciate that exactly, Yes, sir,

1843
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: we do.

1844
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, we definitely.

1845
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 2: And it was hot out there today, Yeah, it's going

1846
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 2: to be hot out there tomorrow.

1847
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:10,559
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1848
01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1849
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 3: So defensively, you're one of them. A lot of new

1850
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 3: faces and a new scheme for New England. I know,

1851
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 3: your first year here anyway, So just curious to your

1852
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: thoughts about how those pieces are coming together, your initial thoughts.

1853
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,439
Speaker 3: You're about a weekend to training camp now, just how

1854
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 3: that front seven specifically is coming together.

1855
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 25: Yeah, we're stacking these days kind of like our coach,

1856
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 25: he really harps on just being able to go out

1857
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 25: and just be consistent and how we are.

1858
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 9: Some days are gonna be bad.

1859
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,599
Speaker 25: We're gonna have some bad plays and some days are

1860
01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,840
Speaker 25: gonna be very very well. However, that list we just

1861
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 25: got continued to stack, and I think for our front

1862
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,639
Speaker 25: seven that's kind of been the theme, just continuing to work,

1863
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 25: feed off each other, learn from one another, and it's

1864
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 25: been it's been working very well so far.

1865
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you guys did a little bit of red

1866
01:18:56,520 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: zone today, but even though you're in full path, there's

1867
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 2: still not like one hundred percent.

1868
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 4: Going to the ground yet and all that stuff.

1869
01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 25: Yeah, that's the only thing we're not doing. Everything else

1870
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 25: to that point is full speed one hundred percent. We're

1871
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 25: just not throwing guys on the ground so we can

1872
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 25: get take care of each other.

1873
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:16,000
Speaker 2: Right, So, as a space heater up front, like, is

1874
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,840
Speaker 2: there a point in practice or in training camps in

1875
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 2: the past where you get to, Okay, this is now,

1876
01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,680
Speaker 2: I can do what I do, you know, Like I'm

1877
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 2: goal line for example.

1878
01:19:25,800 --> 01:19:28,800
Speaker 25: I love goal line just just being that mentality of

1879
01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,559
Speaker 25: they got to gain one yard and you being the

1880
01:19:31,600 --> 01:19:34,200
Speaker 25: person that they got to move. It brings it brings

1881
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 25: out a chip and some of them, like like me

1882
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:39,080
Speaker 25: and those d linemen, But I think just anywhere on

1883
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,759
Speaker 25: the field really if it's third down, second down, goal line,

1884
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,680
Speaker 25: just being able to go out and just do your

1885
01:19:45,800 --> 01:19:47,679
Speaker 25: job is very exciting.

1886
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 3: So you have you know, Milton Williams and Christian Barmore,

1887
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,320
Speaker 3: and they're a little bit of a different sort.

1888
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 9: Of body type than you.

1889
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 3: They're a little bit you know, smaller and more penetrating,

1890
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 3: you know, past rushing. You are more of a space

1891
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:04,679
Speaker 3: seeding run stopper, right and that, yeah, sir, that be accurate.

1892
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: So I'm just how does that dynamic work with you guys?

1893
01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 3: How well do you think you guys complimentary each other.

1894
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 9: I think it works very well. We get to feed

1895
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 9: off one another.

1896
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,599
Speaker 25: I think, just like you said, the get offs, Moon

1897
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 25: william is really good at doing that, and I think

1898
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 25: being able to show the room that's possible and and

1899
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 25: even if your nose, you can still get off in

1900
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 25: this league. And so just having that confidence and teammates

1901
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,760
Speaker 25: like Million just helping you out that makes it so

1902
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,599
Speaker 25: much easier. And then with bar More, he's just a freak,

1903
01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 25: so he's he's such an athletic free that he can

1904
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 25: play the position inside and out, and just seeing that

1905
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,800
Speaker 25: the same things, just learning from him and being able

1906
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:43,839
Speaker 25: to feed off one another.

1907
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,080
Speaker 9: It's been. It's been amazing.

1908
01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 3: Now, when Christian gets really excited and starts talking really fast,

1909
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 3: do you have any idea what he's saying?

1910
01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Sometimes you just gotta let him talk.

1911
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's transcribe.

1912
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:58,680
Speaker 25: Anytimes he just he talking. He gonna talk And I

1913
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 25: love that about being more man.

1914
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:00,839
Speaker 9: He's amazing.

1915
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 4: So how do you what do you think of New England?

1916
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 4: What have you know, how do you like living here

1917
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 4: so far?

1918
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 9: You know, New England has been cool.

1919
01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,519
Speaker 25: It's been such a different vibe from the West Coast,

1920
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:14,200
Speaker 25: but you know, I love it out here. Scenery wise, beautiful,

1921
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,280
Speaker 25: team wise, it's been very welcoming from players standpoint, and

1922
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:20,880
Speaker 25: the coach has been very cool and in the in

1923
01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 25: the fans have been very welcoming and very nice. So

1924
01:21:23,560 --> 01:21:25,360
Speaker 25: it's been, it's been. It's been good.

1925
01:21:25,479 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 3: Now you've been settled in you you mentioned because I

1926
01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 3: was listening to your talk out there.

1927
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 6: Have you gotten your family here too?

1928
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 1: Or four year old?

1929
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 9: Yeah? I got a yeah, four year old.

1930
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 25: Now during the camps it's kind of hard because it's

1931
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,479
Speaker 25: so far and you know, yeah, yeah, So I usually

1932
01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 25: try to bring them out during the season, same as

1933
01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:44,599
Speaker 25: my siblings and my parents. They try to come out

1934
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,719
Speaker 25: during the season, so during camp time, it's just we're

1935
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 25: locked in and no family around, so it kind of makes.

1936
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 9: It a little easy.

1937
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 6: And you also were one of the off season award winners.

1938
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 6: I saw this moting you know what what went into that?

1939
01:21:56,520 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 3: And you know, does that I assume that's a point

1940
01:21:59,040 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 3: of pride for you.

1941
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,160
Speaker 25: Yeah, you know it's Ah, it was pretty cool. I

1942
01:22:02,240 --> 01:22:07,400
Speaker 25: was shocked only because everybody was working and literally anybody

1943
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 25: could have gotten that word like this OTAs was. Everybody

1944
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 25: was just go, go, go, and we were feeding off

1945
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:15,160
Speaker 25: each other, so and that and just coming into camp

1946
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 25: the same mentality and nothing's changed, Like it's been cool.

1947
01:22:18,640 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 25: But everybody's working. You see it on the field, so

1948
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 25: it's it's been pretty Uh it was good though.

1949
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,559
Speaker 4: You must have had the neatest locker or something like that.

1950
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 4: You must have done something.

1951
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 6: There were only four guys, just one of them.

1952
01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 4: You must have done something.

1953
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:33,840
Speaker 9: Man, it was just working. It's just working.

1954
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 4: As fans, we love to hear that, and uh, we

1955
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 4: love seeing seeing you here.

1956
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming by and all you got stuff to do,

1957
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,559
Speaker 2: get showered up and get some food in you and

1958
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 2: get ready for the meetings this afternoon.

1959
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 9: So I appreciate you guys for having me. Thank you, Yeah,

1960
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 9: thanks so much. I appreciate it.

1961
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 4: All right, Kyrius Tanga, we'll be right back after this.

1962
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 2: All right, we're back here on Patriots Nfit Altered. That

1963
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:05,200
Speaker 2: was Paul and myself's interview with Kiris Tanga. Real nice guy,

1964
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:06,639
Speaker 2: as you could see, it's real nice.

1965
01:23:06,640 --> 01:23:08,200
Speaker 5: I listen to him a little bit outside as well.

1966
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 5: And the big man in the middle. Yep, he's going

1967
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 5: to be a big part of that.

1968
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 8: Yeah, sneaky player, I think, Yeah, I think he's kind

1969
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 8: of one of one. Yeah, exactly what I was about

1970
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:17,439
Speaker 8: to say.

1971
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 7: He's the only guy on the team that does what

1972
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 7: he does.

1973
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I kind of.

1974
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 3: I didn't want to necessarily throw any of his teammates

1975
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 3: under the bus when I asked him that question, but

1976
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,120
Speaker 3: that's kind of what I was talking about, Like, you know,

1977
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 3: Milton Williams and Barmore different kinds of players, even though

1978
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 3: you guys all played the same position. And he was like, yeah, no, no,

1979
01:23:32,720 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 3: you're right, you're right, And I was like, you have

1980
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:37,400
Speaker 3: more of a run stuffing space eater, And I didn't

1981
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 3: want to say you don't really have any breed and well, no,

1982
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 3: I didn't want to say, you don't really have anybody

1983
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 3: else like that, right, because they kind of got rid

1984
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: of most of the bigger defensive lineman.

1985
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,480
Speaker 6: They have a lot of athletic defensive.

1986
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 4: Tackles they got.

1987
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:51,720
Speaker 1: Yep.

1988
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 5: I don't want to put words in him one, but

1989
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:55,160
Speaker 5: this is kind of how you would prefer it. Like,

1990
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,160
Speaker 5: you know, you're a big fan of you know, paint

1991
01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,719
Speaker 5: Devon Godshaw, who is like a high priced tongue.

1992
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 7: I want to stop their on on the way to

1993
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 7: the quarterback.

1994
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 3: I yeah, I mean, I just feel like if the

1995
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 3: other team wants to try to beat you running the ball,

1996
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,720
Speaker 3: I think it in general will work to the Patriots'

1997
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 3: favor because I think it'll keep the score down and

1998
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,719
Speaker 3: you don't have an offense that's necessarily conducive right now

1999
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 3: to getting in thirty five point shootouts. Yeah, so I

2000
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 3: think if team wants to run the ball and they

2001
01:24:23,240 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 3: give because I do think that they have a chance

2002
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 3: to be a little bit leaky against the run. So

2003
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 3: they're smaller front seven, you know.

2004
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:31,840
Speaker 2: With him, like I think he was a seventh round

2005
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 2: draft pick or something like that, and he started playing

2006
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,599
Speaker 2: special teams and things like that. But over the court,

2007
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 2: Like I think last year was the most games he's

2008
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 2: played in, so that's kind of a good thing. Like

2009
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 2: he's been on a lot of teams, but like he

2010
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: got more playing time recently than early in his career.

2011
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: Like he's built toward that. So maybe maybe he could

2012
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 2: be a sneaky contributor to the defense.

2013
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:55,040
Speaker 4: Who knows.

2014
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:57,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think unfortunately for him, like he said, dying

2015
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:58,479
Speaker 8: breed like that.

2016
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,519
Speaker 4: Oh no, but there will be times where you know,

2017
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 4: situation or don't.

2018
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,639
Speaker 2: I don't talk about every play situationally where we've got

2019
01:25:05,680 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: to make this stop. It's you know, third inches or

2020
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:11,719
Speaker 2: around the goal or whatever, and they put him in.

2021
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 8: Yep, it just doesn't you know what I Mormant was like,

2022
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 8: that's not a very sought after commodity in today's NFL.

2023
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 8: So you're not seeing a lot of nose tackles drafted

2024
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 8: high anymore. Like Vince Wilfork is a first round pick,

2025
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 8: Like you'd have to be that dominant probably to get

2026
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,040
Speaker 8: drafted in the top.

2027
01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 7: Fifty these days.

2028
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like it's just not a position that lends itself

2029
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 8: to that. But situationally, whether it's just end of game,

2030
01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 8: four minute offense. They're trying to close out the game.

2031
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 8: You're trying to get a stop. They you know, they're

2032
01:25:41,439 --> 01:25:44,920
Speaker 8: going to run the ball goal line, third down, fourth down,

2033
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 8: Like those are spots where I could see Milton Williams

2034
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,479
Speaker 8: coming off the field maybe for a Cairis Tongo or

2035
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 8: you know someone like that.

2036
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:55,439
Speaker 5: That's well, that's where I was just about to go

2037
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,599
Speaker 5: av was who is the someone like that? That's what

2038
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,800
Speaker 5: I'm curious about. You know, Tong is gonna have a

2039
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:02,120
Speaker 5: real you know, Williams and Barber will have big roles.

2040
01:26:02,160 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 5: But I think what we're seeing a little bit of

2041
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:07,280
Speaker 5: is Jeremiah Farms maybe or could you know Farmer the

2042
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 5: draft pick, Josh Farmer from Florida State.

2043
01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:11,759
Speaker 7: I haven't seen much from him just yet.

2044
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 5: It still seems like today Jeremiah Farms is the guy,

2045
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,639
Speaker 5: the next guy up with that group.

2046
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 7: So we'll see how that continues to progress.

2047
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,479
Speaker 2: Podcasts at Patriots dot Com is the way to email us.

2048
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: Linda from Georgia right Sid made it to camp today

2049
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: to see everything in person and form some opinions what's

2050
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,080
Speaker 2: going to be the twenty five pat season. Also got

2051
01:26:31,080 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 2: to meet Evan before practice. As a bonus, Jerry took

2052
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,080
Speaker 2: a selfie. Nice her husband.

2053
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 7: We're here and they're both fans of the show. I

2054
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 7: think he's an ex husband.

2055
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 23: Now, Evan.

2056
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:40,280
Speaker 4: Oh after that.

2057
01:26:40,400 --> 01:26:43,560
Speaker 7: Oh so I'm also.

2058
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,599
Speaker 2: Now to football. I thought the rotation for offensive side

2059
01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:52,240
Speaker 2: was notable. O line, left, guard and center. Changes That

2060
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 2: look like they're going for the best combo. This is

2061
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:57,719
Speaker 2: the time of year to do that, and it helps

2062
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:00,559
Speaker 2: find the next man up should injuries happen, as they might.

2063
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 2: Wide receiver lots of changes with each formation too, with

2064
01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:07,479
Speaker 2: multiple lineups to block or be a decoy for the defense.

2065
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 4: Running back.

2066
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:10,719
Speaker 2: Good to see them securing the ball with two hands

2067
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: on almost every possession. Good sign for the group tight end.

2068
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,600
Speaker 2: Great to see Hooper in the mix again. What do

2069
01:27:16,640 --> 01:27:19,599
Speaker 2: you say anything I missed for these positions? Tomorrow I'll

2070
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 2: be looking for a defense from the stands and get

2071
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 2: my opinion formed there.

2072
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 4: So there you go.

2073
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 5: That's all good stuff. I mean, that's, you know, kind

2074
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,400
Speaker 5: of what we're telling you. But if you need further confirmation,

2075
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:31,160
Speaker 5: that's that's.

2076
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 7: How it goes in camp. It's you know, it's hard.

2077
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 5: You don't want to overreact every time you see this

2078
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 5: is a bad example. But Fton Chisholm all of a

2079
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 5: sudden is out for a rep. You know, you don't

2080
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 5: want to, oh my god, it's happening, But you see

2081
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 5: a few days a guy starts to like Jerry Wilson.

2082
01:27:45,479 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 7: You know, you start to see.

2083
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 5: Him expanding his role a little bit more. You start

2084
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:51,800
Speaker 5: to track those things. That's what it really I've been

2085
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 5: watching and some of these injuries that have offered opportunities

2086
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 5: for other guys. That's what makes it interesting to me,

2087
01:27:57,200 --> 01:27:58,840
Speaker 5: is I look at my NERD depth chart and start

2088
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 5: to put together, you know, how to they see the team?

2089
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,080
Speaker 5: Who's the next guy up? You know, at this position?

2090
01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,160
Speaker 5: How would they you know if right tackle went out

2091
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 5: or if Trey jcobs? How would you know those questions?

2092
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 5: How would they affect the inevitable kind of juggling you

2093
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 5: always end up doing a rosters.

2094
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: Colleen from Houston says about the box snaps, it seems

2095
01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 2: like the common denominator is Drake. Has Dobbs received a

2096
01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,960
Speaker 2: box snap? Could it be Drake who's messing up the

2097
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,559
Speaker 2: snap and not the center? Yes, that was the thing

2098
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,800
Speaker 2: last year too, regardless of the center.

2099
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, yep, I definitely think that that's there's a chance

2100
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:31,880
Speaker 8: of that and it just goes back. I mean, he

2101
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,599
Speaker 8: did more last year. But like these college quarterbacks are

2102
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 8: not under center. They don't take snaps from under center

2103
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 8: in the college game anymore. Everybody runs spread, everybody runs gun.

2104
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 8: Like the amount of times, like some of these teams

2105
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 8: are so anti under center they kneel from the shotgun

2106
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 8: like they had it's a shotgun snap into a quarterback

2107
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:55,080
Speaker 8: neal at the end of the game. That's how allergic

2108
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,800
Speaker 8: these teams are to going under center. So Drake May,

2109
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 8: you could probably count on two hands the amount of

2110
01:29:01,479 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 8: times that he was under center at North Carolina. It

2111
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,720
Speaker 8: just doesn't happen. So for a lot of these young quarterbacks,

2112
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,479
Speaker 8: it's an adjustment. But the other question that I've always

2113
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,439
Speaker 8: had with it is do they eventually just adjust to

2114
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 8: him right, Like, Okay, if you're really not comfortable doing this,

2115
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,040
Speaker 8: maybe we go to the pistol, maybe we go more

2116
01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 8: shotgun heavy offense, and we build it around the fact

2117
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 8: that you're not necessarily comfortable being an under center quarterback.

2118
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:29,000
Speaker 8: Because they're teams that have done that too, you know,

2119
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,960
Speaker 8: Philadelphia with Jalen Hurts, Like the only times that the

2120
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:33,759
Speaker 8: eagles are under center at the touch push.

2121
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it.

2122
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 2: So Colleen could be onto something there one of those

2123
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:43,040
Speaker 2: box snaps. I did notice it was up here, so

2124
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:44,760
Speaker 2: I don't know what, Like, how do you go from

2125
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,160
Speaker 2: under center and it ends up up on your shoulder?

2126
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: But it could be like you just mishandled it and

2127
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: it flew up over his shoulder.

2128
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:52,720
Speaker 4: I don't know.

2129
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, there were there were some low snaps and shotgun too.

2130
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 5: I think part of the appeal to me, though, of

2131
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 5: Jared Wilson is Drake, get your hands on up under

2132
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 5: his butt, get used to it. The next ten years

2133
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:04,120
Speaker 5: that you guys are going to be a married couple

2134
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,559
Speaker 5: like this are going to grow together. If they could

2135
01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 5: somehow get on the same page with that stuff, that'd

2136
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 5: be you know, part of the appeal to me of

2137
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:11,760
Speaker 5: having a young center that he can grow with and

2138
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 5: can get used to having his.

2139
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,160
Speaker 7: Hands up there. I mean ideally he gets.

2140
01:30:16,040 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 4: The way talks about it. It's a little dirty, yeah,

2141
01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,720
Speaker 4: having his hands up here, up there.

2142
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, you would like to be able to go under center?

2143
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:27,959
Speaker 7: Yeah, I imagine John the action.

2144
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:32,200
Speaker 8: Advantages are palpable or statistically proven, like you'd want to

2145
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 8: be able to do that at at least like a

2146
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 8: twenty five to thirty percent clip.

2147
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:38,880
Speaker 5: Can't imagine Josh would say that our playbook will be

2148
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 5: really limited if we're unable to do that.

2149
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:42,120
Speaker 4: Why do you think it does?

2150
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 2: Why do you think the stats do bear that out?

2151
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,799
Speaker 2: Is it because it gives an advantage to the runner

2152
01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 2: to be able to get a good look at things

2153
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 2: before he takes off, or like, why is.

2154
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 7: It they're coming?

2155
01:30:53,400 --> 01:30:55,439
Speaker 8: Well, I think the main reason is the running backs

2156
01:30:55,439 --> 01:30:57,600
Speaker 8: coming from deeper in the backfield, so he has a

2157
01:30:57,680 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 8: run up to the line of scrimmage, whereas when he's

2158
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,360
Speaker 8: in the shot gun, he's starting from a stagnant stance,

2159
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:03,600
Speaker 8: so he's not I.

2160
01:31:03,640 --> 01:31:05,639
Speaker 2: Used to get made fun of when I talked about that,

2161
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:08,519
Speaker 2: When I said that he's starting from a dead start.

2162
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 4: Paul would make fun of me.

2163
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:11,040
Speaker 6: A dead start, yes, I did.

2164
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's the same thing as stagnant, dead start, stagnant

2165
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 2: or a dead stop.

2166
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:18,040
Speaker 6: What do you think?

2167
01:31:18,400 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 7: Oh, this not so much.

2168
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 6: Argument, which you think it was?

2169
01:31:25,400 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 5: I didn't know, Like, I get what Fred's saying, that's right, right,

2170
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:29,200
Speaker 5: but no dead start.

2171
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 3: It was one of those just kind of was a

2172
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,800
Speaker 3: funny phrase and me and Andy took notice of it,

2173
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 3: and you know, you don't think it.

2174
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 4: Was anything relevant.

2175
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:42,960
Speaker 8: Behind the quarterback under center's eight yards in the backfield.

2176
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:45,759
Speaker 8: So now Remandre has eight yards of a running start

2177
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,320
Speaker 8: into the line of scrimmage, so he's moving a lot

2178
01:31:48,360 --> 01:31:49,719
Speaker 8: faster at the point of attack.

2179
01:31:50,120 --> 01:31:54,320
Speaker 2: But if you're at shotgun, now the quarterback is five

2180
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 2: or six yards back and he hands it to the

2181
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:57,720
Speaker 2: running back, you're still.

2182
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 8: But the running back doesn't have our head start like

2183
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:02,600
Speaker 8: the running back, and under center is running before he

2184
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:03,240
Speaker 8: even has the ball.

2185
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 4: Oh, so he's running to the quarterback.

2186
01:32:05,000 --> 01:32:07,360
Speaker 8: Correct, because they're going to meet up the junk kings.

2187
01:32:07,640 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 4: Okay.

2188
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 8: But the other thing that's really big is play action

2189
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:13,240
Speaker 8: because when you're under center, you turn around and you

2190
01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 8: turn your back to the defense and you can hide

2191
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,280
Speaker 8: the ball, whereas if you're in the shotgun, the defense

2192
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:19,120
Speaker 8: can see the football.

2193
01:32:19,200 --> 01:32:19,559
Speaker 4: Okay.

2194
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 8: So that's why RPOs became a thing. Not to go

2195
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:24,760
Speaker 8: down the whole rabbit hole, but that's so RPOs became

2196
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 8: a thing because it teams that were gun heavy, like

2197
01:32:27,600 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 8: in college, they had to find a way to be

2198
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,479
Speaker 8: more effective with play action from the gun because they

2199
01:32:32,520 --> 01:32:33,880
Speaker 8: couldn't do it like you do it from me.

2200
01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:36,160
Speaker 2: What about the fact that on the shotgun the ball

2201
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:37,759
Speaker 2: gets to the running back faster.

2202
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 8: Well, I mean that could I guess you could say

2203
01:32:40,720 --> 01:32:43,120
Speaker 8: that's an advantage in the other direction. But I think

2204
01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 8: most of the time the advantages of being under center,

2205
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 8: oh weigh that, Okay, I would say, all right, especially

2206
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 8: just from like a running back perspective.

2207
01:32:52,120 --> 01:32:54,280
Speaker 3: And to your point, Fred, like I can tell you

2208
01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 3: pushing back, which I like. Obviously, the things that are

2209
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 3: an advantage of being under center are not necessarily viewed

2210
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 3: as outweighing the benefits of the vast majority of teams

2211
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:07,759
Speaker 3: are gun more often than.

2212
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,560
Speaker 6: Not, right, or at least a high percentage.

2213
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 3: Yes, So if it was such a big advantage, I

2214
01:33:12,240 --> 01:33:14,160
Speaker 3: think more teams would say, no, we have to do

2215
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 3: this right.

2216
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:17,679
Speaker 8: You know, it's a big advantage for the run game.

2217
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:19,680
Speaker 8: In play action, if you want to be like a

2218
01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:23,560
Speaker 8: traditional play action team. Now, a lot of offenses nowadays

2219
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 8: run the pistol, which is the perfect medium. It's right

2220
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 8: in the middle because you still have the back behind

2221
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 8: the quarterback, and you can still turn and hide the

2222
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,120
Speaker 8: ball when you turn in the pistol.

2223
01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 4: So the pistol, you're just closer to the center.

2224
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,719
Speaker 8: Well the running back is directly behind the quarterback instead

2225
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,680
Speaker 8: of offset like he is in the gun. So like

2226
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:49,559
Speaker 8: Miami is Shanahan Tree, you know, Mike McDaniel, but Tua

2227
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 8: doesn't like going under center because he's so short. So

2228
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:54,400
Speaker 8: what they do is they put to in the pistol

2229
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:56,960
Speaker 8: and then they run all the same actions that like

2230
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 8: Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay run from under center, but

2231
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:02,240
Speaker 8: they it from the pistol. So there's just different there's

2232
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,720
Speaker 8: different ways that you can do it. And I've been

2233
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:06,680
Speaker 8: clamoring for the Patriots to run more pistol because I

2234
01:34:06,680 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 8: don't think Drake is great from under center.

2235
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:12,879
Speaker 2: And the slingshot for example, like in between the pistol

2236
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 2: and under.

2237
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 7: Center, that has not been invented.

2238
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 8: But if you there's like there's different variations of like

2239
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 8: you know, ways that they have like the side car

2240
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,720
Speaker 8: right where you have like a lead blocker is offset

2241
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 8: and then the running backs behind the quarterback and you

2242
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:31,879
Speaker 8: kind of have a three man backfield. And the Ravens

2243
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,120
Speaker 8: do that a lot. But there's not a slingshot.

2244
01:34:34,680 --> 01:34:36,559
Speaker 4: No, no, what a bow and arrow.

2245
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:36,720
Speaker 18: No.

2246
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 8: You can invent it though, if you want to tell

2247
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 8: Josh maybe, by.

2248
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 7: The way, do we ever figure out your no Lampy today?

2249
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 7: I don't want to talk about it. I don't want

2250
01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 7: to talk about it.

2251
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 4: No, no brock Lampy, No brock Lampy, no full back in.

2252
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,640
Speaker 8: There was some speculation from from Paul's people from the

2253
01:34:55,680 --> 01:35:00,120
Speaker 8: media tent well they cut them.

2254
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:02,519
Speaker 5: How could they do that this day after Pats That

2255
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 5: seems I mean, it would be disappointed.

2256
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:07,080
Speaker 4: I say, no, it's in Toronto, he says.

2257
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm worried that I haven't heard anything about the QB

2258
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,840
Speaker 2: run game slash read options. Do you think this is

2259
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,639
Speaker 2: coming soon? Or are we going to hamstring ourselves again

2260
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 2: this year?

2261
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:18,800
Speaker 8: I just talked about it earlier and they did a

2262
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 8: ton of it today. I don't want to give away

2263
01:35:20,680 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 8: too much, but they did it today.

2264
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 7: It's in the back.

2265
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:26,160
Speaker 6: The Jets have re signed Nick Folk.

2266
01:35:26,240 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 7: Everybody for him that's.

2267
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:30,000
Speaker 9: Plays.

2268
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 7: When's the weel going to fall off the bus with him?

2269
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 7: Like he's just going to keep kicking field goals?

2270
01:35:33,880 --> 01:35:34,880
Speaker 6: Well, he's on the Jets.

2271
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:39,519
Speaker 4: So now Randy's in Providence. What's up, Randy?

2272
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 7: Randy, Hey, how's it going?

2273
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,560
Speaker 16: So I've got two questions.

2274
01:35:47,080 --> 01:35:47,599
Speaker 20: For you guys.

2275
01:35:47,640 --> 01:35:54,080
Speaker 11: Regarding the position battles there Borgles versus Parker Romo, it

2276
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:57,719
Speaker 11: sounds like the reporting through the past couple of days,

2277
01:35:57,720 --> 01:36:01,160
Speaker 11: but it's kind of lean more towards Parker Roma. And

2278
01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 11: I was watching the after practice interview, I think would

2279
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:08,120
Speaker 11: work all this the other day, and it's just like

2280
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,320
Speaker 11: and maybe I'm reading into it too much or whatever,

2281
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:13,160
Speaker 11: but he was like, oh, yeah, you know, I got

2282
01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 11: a good foot on the ball, but it didn't go in.

2283
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 11: But that's fine because I got a good foot on

2284
01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,320
Speaker 11: the ball. And it just seemed to me, like that's

2285
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 11: not the result that you want. You don't the result

2286
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 11: that you're pursuing is three points at one point.

2287
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:28,400
Speaker 15: It's not getting a good.

2288
01:36:28,200 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 11: Foot on the ball, and sometimes you gotta you know,

2289
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 11: like anticipate those sorts of things, and again not getting

2290
01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,160
Speaker 11: a minutia kicking, but like, it just didn't seem like

2291
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 11: there was a lot of lot of caring about the

2292
01:36:41,000 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 11: result from him.

2293
01:36:43,240 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 8: I sort of understand that though, Randy, because like kicking

2294
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 8: is it's it's almost like a golf swing, like it's

2295
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 8: repetitive stroke and you just want the stroke to look

2296
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 8: exactly the same, and you want your routine to be

2297
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 8: exactly the same. So like if you're having a repeat,

2298
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 8: repetitive stroke, then the results usually come. It's when like

2299
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,040
Speaker 8: one time you're you know, you're leaning this way, one

2300
01:37:02,040 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 8: time you're leaning that way. That's when thanks the shanks

2301
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:05,479
Speaker 8: start to happen.

2302
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 3: I think what he's basically telling you is I feel like,

2303
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:11,520
Speaker 3: if I hit it like this a hundred times, I'm gonna.

2304
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 6: Make ninety five of them.

2305
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's gonna happen. It's I think the golf

2306
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,759
Speaker 3: analogy is a perfect one. I've done that a million

2307
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 3: times as a hacker. I might be, you know, one

2308
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,040
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty yards and I hit my iron and

2309
01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:24,960
Speaker 3: I hit it flush, and I you know, I just

2310
01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 3: hit it a little bit left of the green or

2311
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:28,760
Speaker 3: right of the green. I'm like, I'm okay with that.

2312
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:30,759
Speaker 3: I'm not on the green. That's what I was trying

2313
01:37:30,760 --> 01:37:32,879
Speaker 3: to do. But I hit it the way I normally

2314
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,160
Speaker 3: want to hit it. And I think if I hit

2315
01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 3: it like that every time, more often than not, it's

2316
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,080
Speaker 3: going to go on the green. And I bet you

2317
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 3: that's what he meant is if I hit him like

2318
01:37:41,720 --> 01:37:43,920
Speaker 3: that all the time, more often than not, we're going

2319
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:44,439
Speaker 3: to be happy.

2320
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 8: I always hear the golf and when you talk to

2321
01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 8: special teams, coordinators and stuff, they always use golf. It's

2322
01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 8: just a repetitive swing. You want the stroke to look

2323
01:37:51,880 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 8: exactly the same every single time. And now those are

2324
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 8: the best kickers. The best kickers, they don't change even

2325
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 8: if they're kicking from like sixty like and they're trying

2326
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:00,880
Speaker 8: to it's a.

2327
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:02,520
Speaker 4: Change in trajectory.

2328
01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: Though, if you're going longer, you need to kind of

2329
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,759
Speaker 2: drive it a little bit more.

2330
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 7: Maybe, but you can't heal it as high.

2331
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:13,000
Speaker 8: The legs swing, they the steps and the whole process

2332
01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 8: of getting the ball off the ground. They want to

2333
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 8: keep it the same.

2334
01:38:16,760 --> 01:38:17,280
Speaker 4: Okay.

2335
01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 3: Now to Randy's you know, initial concern, I would say,

2336
01:38:21,400 --> 01:38:22,920
Speaker 3: it's just you know, small.

2337
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 11: See.

2338
01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,720
Speaker 6: I do think Romo has been a little bit better.

2339
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 3: We talked about this earlier in the show, and there

2340
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 3: have been times where I haven't felt Borgallis hit it

2341
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:31,760
Speaker 3: quote unquote the way.

2342
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 4: You know.

2343
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 3: I don't think he got a good foot on every

2344
01:38:34,120 --> 01:38:38,440
Speaker 3: one of these misses. You know, to use Bora Gallis's terminology,

2345
01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,920
Speaker 3: I think he's struggled a little bit with that golf

2346
01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 3: swing trying to get there.

2347
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,479
Speaker 2: Like I don't know how close you know, we can

2348
01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 2: actually see. But when he had those, when the ball

2349
01:38:47,320 --> 01:38:51,680
Speaker 2: just didn't look right coming off? Was the placement of

2350
01:38:51,720 --> 01:38:54,040
Speaker 2: the ball right, you know, like I don't know, A.

2351
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 6: Lot goes into it.

2352
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's that like ten to four, you know

2353
01:38:57,439 --> 01:38:58,919
Speaker 5: that that sideway.

2354
01:38:59,320 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what you're saying. It looks like a

2355
01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:01,880
Speaker 4: buckle ball.

2356
01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 5: Sometimes I just don't get the jump, Like, I don't

2357
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 5: think any of his balls look like that in college.

2358
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,880
Speaker 7: Like is it the different ball or.

2359
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,559
Speaker 4: I don't know, it could be, you know, or like.

2360
01:39:10,479 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 7: I said, I take an adjustment to kick it, laces out.

2361
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:15,439
Speaker 4: All that type of stuff is a little bit, you know,

2362
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:16,719
Speaker 4: left to right.

2363
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,160
Speaker 7: I never hear much. I mean I've worked here for

2364
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 7: six years now.

2365
01:39:19,720 --> 01:39:22,160
Speaker 5: I've never really heard much about the change in ball

2366
01:39:22,439 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 5: from college kball, Well, from college to the pros.

2367
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,120
Speaker 8: And it is bigger ball.

2368
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, is the college ball a little fatter?

2369
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 6: Shorter and fat.

2370
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,960
Speaker 3: They're basically the same size, but they're yeah, a little

2371
01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,600
Speaker 3: bit different. The consistency is different. Shorter and fatter in college.

2372
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:40,240
Speaker 7: And you're looking for a consistent strokes.

2373
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:43,280
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I don't know where that came from.

2374
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:45,559
Speaker 5: Well, it's just effects you're going to have a consistent

2375
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 5: stroke to a short, fat one.

2376
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 7: It's not Wow. I was going to say something serious too.

2377
01:39:51,439 --> 01:39:53,040
Speaker 4: But pros are longer.

2378
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 7: Sorry, I let myself down there.

2379
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: Just long.

2380
01:39:56,200 --> 01:39:57,519
Speaker 6: That's exactly how I.

2381
01:39:57,520 --> 01:39:59,960
Speaker 4: Was feeling, like I really just listen. Size matter.

2382
01:40:00,200 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 26: Okay, well it does, and not enough players talk about, like,

2383
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:05,479
Speaker 26: you know, all of a sudden, like I can't imagine

2384
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:07,320
Speaker 26: going from college hockey to pro hockey and the buck's

2385
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 26: a little bit longer now. I mean, all of a sudden,

2386
01:40:10,320 --> 01:40:12,160
Speaker 26: I had this great snapshot and now it kind of

2387
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 26: comes out the stick funny, and I'm just won't stop.

2388
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:17,559
Speaker 8: Like the three point line of basketball in college it's shorter.

2389
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, the NBA, he used to it.

2390
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:21,320
Speaker 7: But people never really talk about like now the ball

2391
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 7: is a little weird for me.

2392
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:25,479
Speaker 6: No one ever says that I agree with you. You don't

2393
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 6: hear a lot of people talking.

2394
01:40:28,080 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 5: When I was about to bring this up two seconds ago,

2395
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 5: I had to like do mental inventories, like the ball

2396
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 5: is different.

2397
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:33,920
Speaker 4: Maybe we should get Bory Allison here.

2398
01:40:33,960 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 7: We'll ask us Jeremy Springer, what do you like it's

2399
01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 7: short and fat or the long?

2400
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,800
Speaker 6: We changed the college ball. It's not different anymore now.

2401
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 8: I do remember in those Friday press conferences last year

2402
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:46,840
Speaker 8: with Jeremy Springer where there would be like five of us,

2403
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:49,240
Speaker 8: you know, people that actually stay for the Special Teams coach,

2404
01:40:49,560 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 8: and he congratulations. He actually talked about the different holds,

2405
01:40:53,479 --> 01:40:56,559
Speaker 8: like there are different holes and certain kickers depending on

2406
01:40:56,600 --> 01:40:59,240
Speaker 8: the conditions and stuff like that. The way that the

2407
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 8: ball is literally pointed and held can be different. And

2408
01:41:04,000 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 8: I know it sounds silly and like I'm making excuses

2409
01:41:06,960 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 8: for him, but like there's a chance that him and

2410
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 8: Bearinger are still in the lab like trying to figure

2411
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:14,519
Speaker 8: out exactly how he likes the ball to be held.

2412
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:19,840
Speaker 8: Distance matters, wind conditions matter, the surface sometimes matters on

2413
01:41:19,880 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 8: the field. So like these things do factor into all.

2414
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:24,760
Speaker 4: This when you need them.

2415
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,760
Speaker 5: And I was expecting was just to magically appear like

2416
01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:29,800
Speaker 5: I dream Egenie like smoke and then he's like, is

2417
01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 5: someone talking kicking?

2418
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 8: It's funny, it's the basic as much as we all

2419
01:41:37,160 --> 01:41:40,280
Speaker 8: just kind of ran all this stuff off, like that's

2420
01:41:40,320 --> 01:41:42,840
Speaker 8: the Special team's coach, Like this is their job, and so,

2421
01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 8: like like any job, they know all the minutia of

2422
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,240
Speaker 8: like all the details of the different holes and all

2423
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:49,040
Speaker 8: this kind of stuff.

2424
01:41:49,080 --> 01:41:50,879
Speaker 7: So maybe maybe.

2425
01:41:50,640 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 3: That's I just did a quick Google search and they

2426
01:41:53,439 --> 01:41:55,080
Speaker 3: are roughly the same.

2427
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.

2428
01:41:57,080 --> 01:41:58,080
Speaker 6: College footballs are.

2429
01:41:58,000 --> 01:42:01,080
Speaker 3: Generally winning the same length and circumference range NFL footballs,

2430
01:42:01,080 --> 01:42:05,680
Speaker 3: but can vary more due to different manufacturers. And it

2431
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 3: talks about, you know, it's twenty seven to twenty eight

2432
01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 3: and a half around.

2433
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,479
Speaker 4: They get the stripe. Maybe that makes it look shorter.

2434
01:42:14,560 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 6: I like the stripe.

2435
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 7: I like this. Do you like the stripe?

2436
01:42:16,840 --> 01:42:17,280
Speaker 4: I do too.

2437
01:42:17,840 --> 01:42:20,280
Speaker 7: When I buy a backyard football, I'm looking.

2438
01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:22,800
Speaker 6: I'm going to the weight, the pressure. It's you can

2439
01:42:22,840 --> 01:42:25,240
Speaker 6: tell the spiral stripe.

2440
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:25,800
Speaker 10: You know.

2441
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:29,439
Speaker 4: Eldred's on the line. What's up, Eldredge?

2442
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 7: There we go?

2443
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 4: All right, hey.

2444
01:42:35,600 --> 01:42:39,240
Speaker 14: Talks up on the report yesterday. I normally get to

2445
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 14: the show. But how bad is gun?

2446
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 1: Though?

2447
01:42:42,800 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 14: And they did it? Pope showed out a little bit,

2448
01:42:45,120 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 14: so I'm like.

2449
01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:46,599
Speaker 11: Here we go.

2450
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 2: Well, Gonzo, according to the reports, Uh, it's a hamstring.

2451
01:42:52,920 --> 01:42:56,360
Speaker 2: It won't threaten his availability for the season, but they're

2452
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 2: gonna just take it easy on him right now and

2453
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 2: let him rest. But it's nothing major. It's it is

2454
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 2: a hamstring. Hamstring tweak according to Jordan Schultzer.

2455
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,360
Speaker 3: So just three minutes ago, Karen greg And I'm told

2456
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 3: the Patriots aren't sure how long top corner Christian Gonzalez

2457
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,000
Speaker 3: will be out with a hamstring injury.

2458
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:14,920
Speaker 6: They're just taking a quote day by day.

2459
01:43:15,080 --> 01:43:17,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, so day by day for him and then Polke,

2460
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if catching a pass is showing up.

2461
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 3: I mean there's there is no scenario that you could

2462
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,280
Speaker 3: say polk has been showing out. He's back on the

2463
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 3: practice field the last two days, which is a really

2464
01:43:27,120 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 3: positive sign for him just getting back into it.

2465
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:30,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2466
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:32,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, No, I mean one passed yesterday and I think

2467
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:33,639
Speaker 7: one pass with a Tuesday.

2468
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:33,960
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2469
01:43:33,960 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 8: And the touchdown that he was as schemed open as

2470
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:37,080
Speaker 8: you can possibly be.

2471
01:43:37,240 --> 01:43:39,640
Speaker 3: It was very similar for people that didn't see it

2472
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:42,120
Speaker 3: the touchdown that he caught last year in Chicago.

2473
01:43:42,280 --> 01:43:42,639
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2474
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 4: Actually he had a good catch, thanks Aldrea.

2475
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 5: I don't know it was a catch for sure. It

2476
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:47,920
Speaker 5: seemed like he thought it was a catch, but the

2477
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:49,920
Speaker 5: far end zone back left like it was.

2478
01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. It was now the one where he

2479
01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 4: jumped out of bounce.

2480
01:43:54,680 --> 01:43:57,280
Speaker 2: See I didn't I nitpicked that one because that was

2481
01:43:57,320 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 2: the play that Drake was extending, you know, he was

2482
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:03,599
Speaker 2: running around and Poke ran himself out of bounds, like

2483
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, like you're trying to get open

2484
01:44:06,680 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 2: for your guy, and you know, the sideline becomes the

2485
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,439
Speaker 2: second defender on you, like moved to where there's more space.

2486
01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:15,599
Speaker 4: He just ran out of room.

2487
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2488
01:44:15,960 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 7: I came to it later, but I thought maybe he

2489
01:44:17,880 --> 01:44:18,200
Speaker 7: was open.

2490
01:44:18,240 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 6: He seemed like he thought he was open.

2491
01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm with you his touchdown, I mean it should have been.

2492
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:23,599
Speaker 6: There were two occasions last year.

2493
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:27,840
Speaker 5: I don't know what you're talking about.

2494
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:28,519
Speaker 1: About.

2495
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:30,599
Speaker 2: The one we were talking about together where you could

2496
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 2: get me there. We were talking about the one we

2497
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 2: all talked about together where we were like, oh that

2498
01:44:34,360 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 2: was out of bound.

2499
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:38,479
Speaker 7: Yeah that was clearly I know you're joking about that.

2500
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:40,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't even close.

2501
01:44:41,320 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 7: He'll take guess. I don't know, so he'll.

2502
01:44:44,200 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 4: Emorys in Virginia, what's Emery? What's up?

2503
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:51,679
Speaker 10: Emory could have put it afternoon, gentlemen. Hey, you guys

2504
01:44:51,680 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 10: are doing an amazing job keeping us Pats fans and

2505
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:58,160
Speaker 10: formed with the good, the bad, and the ugly.

2506
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,640
Speaker 9: Thank you will, thank you, thank you you.

2507
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:00,880
Speaker 2: Sure.

2508
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:02,000
Speaker 20: I love it.

2509
01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:07,520
Speaker 16: Hey, listen, I need I need your update from your optics,

2510
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:11,719
Speaker 16: not not not with just what the reporters are saying

2511
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:14,200
Speaker 16: the other people who.

2512
01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:14,800
Speaker 11: Are covering the past.

2513
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:20,000
Speaker 16: What your optics as far as the linebackers and the dvs,

2514
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:23,960
Speaker 16: which include both the corners and safeties. Tell me what

2515
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:26,120
Speaker 16: you're seeing. I would greatly appreciate it.

2516
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 4: Okay, e Marie.

2517
01:45:27,120 --> 01:45:29,760
Speaker 2: You're looking for the optics of the back end of

2518
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:32,479
Speaker 2: the defense, the back eight or whatever you want to

2519
01:45:32,479 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 2: call it.

2520
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:33,520
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2521
01:45:33,320 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, we've seen Splain and Christian Ellis paired together a

2522
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:40,280
Speaker 8: lot as sort of like the top inside linebacker duo,

2523
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:43,080
Speaker 8: and explaining is not surprising, but not to buy in

2524
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:46,000
Speaker 8: these practices. He's been out, so that might contribute a

2525
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:48,080
Speaker 8: little bit to Ellis being so involved.

2526
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 7: But I feel like those two.

2527
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:52,920
Speaker 8: Guys have been pretty locked in there as the top

2528
01:45:52,960 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 8: two inside linebackers, with maybe like a little bit of

2529
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:57,719
Speaker 8: Jack Gibbons every once in a while.

2530
01:45:57,840 --> 01:45:58,439
Speaker 9: Yeah. Yeah.

2531
01:45:58,439 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 5: And then I mean on the safety, it's a lot

2532
01:46:00,040 --> 01:46:01,920
Speaker 5: of Dugger and Peppers, but a lot of rotation going

2533
01:46:01,960 --> 01:46:04,880
Speaker 5: on back there, giving guys like Jalen Hawkins a chance.

2534
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:09,599
Speaker 3: Marcus Epps mass made a nice play today coverage on I'd.

2535
01:46:09,479 --> 01:46:12,320
Speaker 5: Say, you know, Craig Woodson hasn't really entered that conversation

2536
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:14,840
Speaker 5: yet which something to watch and as he's entered the chat,

2537
01:46:15,160 --> 01:46:16,920
Speaker 5: it hasn't entered the chat yet that with the Young

2538
01:46:17,240 --> 01:46:19,760
Speaker 5: Top unit. But like I said, I think last show

2539
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 5: a lot of rotation going on in the back. Seems

2540
01:46:21,600 --> 01:46:24,439
Speaker 5: like they're looking for what how the best three fit?

2541
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 5: But they clearly seem to understand that Peppers and Dugger

2542
01:46:29,120 --> 01:46:30,680
Speaker 5: play well when they're close to the line.

2543
01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 1: You know, I.

2544
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,680
Speaker 2: Mentioned that, you know, show me what goes on in

2545
01:46:33,720 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 2: the joint practice and I'll be able to come up

2546
01:46:35,520 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 2: with a little bit more informed opinions. But Friday nights

2547
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 2: in stadium practice for Foxborough residents and season ticket members,

2548
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,880
Speaker 2: we're told will be more like a scrimmage, you know,

2549
01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,599
Speaker 2: an actual scrimmage, or like, well, well that's the thing

2550
01:46:50,680 --> 01:46:54,040
Speaker 2: we've been conditioned because Bill, I think, out of spite,

2551
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 2: kind of made those in stadium practices glorified walkthroughs like

2552
01:46:58,800 --> 01:46:59,679
Speaker 2: they'd be in uniform.

2553
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 4: But it was no more than a walk through.

2554
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:02,759
Speaker 7: It's more about knowing.

2555
01:47:01,640 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 6: What I've heard.

2556
01:47:02,560 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 4: I heard that this might be more like a scrimmage.

2557
01:47:05,560 --> 01:47:07,160
Speaker 5: I think Vere might have said something to somebody on

2558
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,680
Speaker 5: the radio. Maybe if I thought I saw that might

2559
01:47:09,720 --> 01:47:12,240
Speaker 5: have been serious or something. Maybe it was to the

2560
01:47:12,320 --> 01:47:13,400
Speaker 5: to the pat like a.

2561
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 8: Lot of times these are like like you said, and

2562
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:18,280
Speaker 8: it's like, you know, we're laying things from the sideline

2563
01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:23,200
Speaker 8: and substitution flatters and like making sure that game day operation.

2564
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:24,120
Speaker 4: Which is fine, you got to do that.

2565
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 3: But do you think it'd be like any different than

2566
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:31,800
Speaker 3: say yesterday was maybe just not talking about exactly what

2567
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:32,160
Speaker 3: they do.

2568
01:47:32,200 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 7: But I mean, oh, like, are we going to kick

2569
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:35,400
Speaker 7: it off and we're going to start like.

2570
01:47:35,400 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 5: I don't think we're going to get anybody tackled, which

2571
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 5: is kind of what they did though don't they usually

2572
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:40,240
Speaker 5: do that?

2573
01:47:40,280 --> 01:47:41,760
Speaker 7: Like they do a kickoff and they I mean they

2574
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:43,240
Speaker 7: don't go full speed through it, but it.

2575
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:45,960
Speaker 6: Was they stop yea, like they don't return it.

2576
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:48,240
Speaker 7: That's probably the most difference is that it will be.

2577
01:47:48,320 --> 01:47:50,080
Speaker 6: My guess is we're not going to get any tackling.

2578
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:51,040
Speaker 6: It's going to be.

2579
01:47:51,439 --> 01:47:53,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's going to be just like practical.

2580
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:55,479
Speaker 3: I think it's which is good that to Fred's point,

2581
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,080
Speaker 3: it's a step up from what Bill you should do.

2582
01:47:57,120 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 6: It's like they did last year.

2583
01:47:58,640 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 5: I think that with Rabel though so that there could

2584
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 5: be a competitive element to it. And I'm not saying

2585
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:05,760
Speaker 5: that means tackling, but maybe just a little bit more

2586
01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 5: make it again, let's make it a little bit of

2587
01:48:07,960 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 5: a game. But I think that the pace will be

2588
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 5: the same, but it will be more controlled of you know,

2589
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 5: kickoffs and you know the stuff we always thought was

2590
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:17,719
Speaker 5: like and this is where you stand for the national anthem,

2591
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 5: and then you go over here, and then at halftime

2592
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 5: we go out this door.

2593
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:23,439
Speaker 3: You know, it's one of those things, Freddy like, we've

2594
01:48:23,479 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 3: seen a million of these. You know when you see it, Oh,

2595
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:27,920
Speaker 3: that's a little different than that they normally do.

2596
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:29,479
Speaker 8: Yeah, you'll be able to tell you you would like

2597
01:48:30,280 --> 01:48:33,200
Speaker 8: because we haven't really gotten to Like it's first and

2598
01:48:33,280 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 8: ten from the twenty five. We're gonna put the ball down.

2599
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 8: We're going to put everybody to the side. The coaches

2600
01:48:38,080 --> 01:48:39,920
Speaker 8: aren't going to coach. We're just gonna let it run.

2601
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,600
Speaker 8: We're gonna blair the music. Like if that happens on

2602
01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 8: Friday night, that would be different.

2603
01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:46,800
Speaker 3: And if it's incomplete, does it go second and ten

2604
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,280
Speaker 3: or do they move it where it was supposed to

2605
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 3: move right right?

2606
01:48:49,560 --> 01:48:50,880
Speaker 6: You know, that's the kind of stuff.

2607
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 4: Yeap Williams and Philam. What's up? Willem?

2608
01:48:55,080 --> 01:48:56,639
Speaker 2: Hey, hey Bred?

2609
01:48:56,680 --> 01:48:57,679
Speaker 4: How you doing all right?

2610
01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 15: Okay, congratulations Evan, thank you, thank you.

2611
01:49:03,160 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 14: Uh, just keep the life happy, right.

2612
01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:07,760
Speaker 7: I'll try, Oh he is, it's hard this time of year.

2613
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 20: Try right, here's just a question.

2614
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:17,280
Speaker 27: And I talked to Evan about this before, so I'll say,

2615
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:22,559
Speaker 27: you got the quarterback, God women, you got to tackle

2616
01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 27: God women.

2617
01:49:25,120 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 9: But you know we're missing.

2618
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 27: And I talked to you about a certain receiver and

2619
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 27: I'm on this train until that meantime.

2620
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,599
Speaker 15: I know he is when we are about two years

2621
01:49:34,600 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 15: when he come out. But Evan know what I'm talking.

2622
01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:39,000
Speaker 8: About talking about Jeremiah Smith.

2623
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:40,880
Speaker 9: Oh jeez, yes, sir dude.

2624
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,240
Speaker 7: If the Patriots are drafting high enough to draft.

2625
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:47,519
Speaker 8: Jeremiah Smith in two years though, it's got a little while.

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01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:51,439
Speaker 16: Draft and watch, I know we're only got in twenty

2627
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 16: twenty five.

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01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 15: I get it.

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01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,200
Speaker 14: It's just makes sense though, because.

2630
01:49:54,920 --> 01:49:56,720
Speaker 27: Of how we're trying to get number one and it's

2631
01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:58,760
Speaker 27: been so long since we have one.

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01:49:58,640 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 15: Yeah, and it just it just makes sense to me.

2633
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:03,040
Speaker 2: I don't know it makes sense, but I hope we're

2634
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:04,800
Speaker 2: not in a position to get believe it or not.

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01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,639
Speaker 8: If we are we're picking number one overall, if we're

2636
01:50:07,680 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 8: drafting Jeremiah Smith.

2637
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 4: Right at least right now.

2638
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, so like yeah, I don't want to be that

2639
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:19,600
Speaker 2: bad where he's.

2640
01:50:16,760 --> 01:50:19,759
Speaker 27: Not that but like us trading up to get him done,

2641
01:50:19,640 --> 01:50:21,320
Speaker 27: you know what I mean, Like Shay, we got all

2642
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 27: the pieces and everything hopefully and we go ahead and

2643
01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 27: make that big deal.

2644
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:29,400
Speaker 16: You know, we always trade back, but we never trade up.

2645
01:50:29,520 --> 01:50:30,040
Speaker 15: It's been a.

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01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 9: While, you know.

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01:50:30,920 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 8: I mean we're talking about a for a non quarterback,

2648
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 8: like an all time package to get it Jeremiah Smith.

2649
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 8: Like he's it's not just the season that he had

2650
01:50:43,120 --> 01:50:45,560
Speaker 8: last year at Ohio State. Like he's been on the

2651
01:50:45,640 --> 01:50:47,920
Speaker 8: radar since he was like sixteen, Like you know, like

2652
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,759
Speaker 8: he's been ready for the NFL for like three years.

2653
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,160
Speaker 8: So it's not just that he had the great year

2654
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:56,479
Speaker 8: last year at Ohio State. You know, he's a generational talent.

2655
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:58,280
Speaker 7: You might need the Burro Chas thing to happen.

2656
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:02,280
Speaker 2: That's where my my my concept, thanks William, That's where

2657
01:51:02,320 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 2: my concept of future picks being able to future pick

2658
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:07,720
Speaker 2: a guy and giving up your first round pick no

2659
01:51:07,760 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 2: matter what happens, you've lost it to be able to

2660
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:12,759
Speaker 2: say two years from now we've drafted.

2661
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:14,680
Speaker 8: They could have drafted him instead of Will Campbell this

2662
01:51:14,760 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 8: year and stashed him.

2663
01:51:15,680 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 7: For They could have taken baby Gronk in the third round.

2664
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, just wait, David Maine says, have you guys seen

2665
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:24,439
Speaker 2: any reps with Strange at center and Wilson at guard?

2666
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 2: Strange did okay at center last year? Could you see

2667
01:51:27,120 --> 01:51:28,160
Speaker 2: that being the best five?

2668
01:51:28,720 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 7: No?

2669
01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,719
Speaker 5: I think that experiment's over. But but Wilson, Yes, Wilson

2670
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 5: at left guard in center.

2671
01:51:34,200 --> 01:51:34,439
Speaker 23: Yep.

2672
01:51:36,040 --> 01:51:38,479
Speaker 4: So we haven't seen Strange at center at all? No,

2673
01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 4: not one snap.

2674
01:51:40,200 --> 01:51:44,720
Speaker 8: Interesting they've had Bradbury, Ben Brown, Jared Wilson.

2675
01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:47,760
Speaker 7: I said to Evan too, like. I just I like

2676
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:48,599
Speaker 7: Ben Brown size.

2677
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,120
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's really even in the mix

2678
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 5: of the conversation for that spot, but I just think

2679
01:51:53,160 --> 01:51:54,880
Speaker 5: i'd like. I like the idea having a big center

2680
01:51:54,920 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 5: with so many tough, big interior guys, and our recent

2681
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 5: history of guys on skates getting pushed back into the pocket.

2682
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 7: There is a there's a chance.

2683
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,640
Speaker 4: Are you talking about a certain retired.

2684
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:09,920
Speaker 7: No, No, nobody retired.

2685
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:15,320
Speaker 8: Okay, there's a there's a sliver of a chance that

2686
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,800
Speaker 8: it's Jared Wilson and Ben Brown as the backup center.

2687
01:52:19,000 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 8: I'm not saying that it's we're there yet.

2688
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:23,560
Speaker 3: But do you think they might release Bradbury?

2689
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:24,679
Speaker 7: There's a slipper.

2690
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:30,000
Speaker 3: I do not think that that is much of a possibility.

2691
01:52:30,280 --> 01:52:30,719
Speaker 4: Okay.

2692
01:52:31,160 --> 01:52:33,760
Speaker 2: Destiny from Maryland writes in have you guys heard how

2693
01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 2: Taekwon is lighting it up at Chiefs training camp? Apparently

2694
01:52:37,040 --> 01:52:40,400
Speaker 2: he's been running with the first team offense and the

2695
01:52:40,479 --> 01:52:43,679
Speaker 2: Chiefs fans are gushing. I love to see the downfall

2696
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 2: of other fans. Okay, let's let's but I do wish

2697
01:52:46,439 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 2: he pans out.

2698
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 8: We have to teach you a lesson about Taekwon Thornton.

2699
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 6: This is what he does.

2700
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,360
Speaker 8: This is what he shines. This is when he shines.

2701
01:52:52,479 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 8: It's non padded practices and stuff. It's nobody gets hands

2702
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:59,800
Speaker 8: on him. Nobody's gonna actually like press him or be

2703
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,400
Speaker 8: physical with him. This time of year and the fourth

2704
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,639
Speaker 8: two comes out and he just is like last year

2705
01:53:05,680 --> 01:53:08,720
Speaker 8: he was. He was Moss and Christian Gonzales last year.

2706
01:53:08,760 --> 01:53:12,000
Speaker 8: In these early practices, this is the Taekwon experience.

2707
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 7: I've been duped.

2708
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 8: Don't don't get duped, can't don't get duped.

2709
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 4: Well, maybe you know what the fourth year is?

2710
01:53:19,479 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 8: This his fourth year in the league, fourth year jump?

2711
01:53:22,120 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 9: Maybe?

2712
01:53:22,600 --> 01:53:24,360
Speaker 8: Wow, very common fourth year jo.

2713
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:25,120
Speaker 7: Life comes at you.

2714
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:30,120
Speaker 2: Fast, new environment, your setting, fresh start. Who knows, maybe

2715
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:33,080
Speaker 2: you put some pounds on in the right place.

2716
01:53:33,160 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 8: I've never heard that before about Taekwan. Oh, he gained

2717
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:38,920
Speaker 8: fifteen pounds of muscle in the off season. Different guy.

2718
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:43,599
Speaker 6: Fred's rooting for him. Sure, Melbourne, he's on another team.

2719
01:53:43,600 --> 01:53:44,560
Speaker 4: Jake and Melbourne.

2720
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:47,679
Speaker 2: Apologies if it's always already been mentioned, But what has

2721
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:49,639
Speaker 2: the backup five on the O line?

2722
01:53:49,720 --> 01:53:49,920
Speaker 1: Ben?

2723
01:53:50,439 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 4: Or has it been too mixed up?

2724
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:54,559
Speaker 3: I can tell you what it was today. Yeah, it

2725
01:53:54,680 --> 01:53:59,640
Speaker 3: was Marcus Bryant, Kayden Wallace, Jared Wilson, City Sow and

2726
01:53:59,720 --> 01:54:01,240
Speaker 3: Trey Jacobs left to right.

2727
01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:03,360
Speaker 6: That was your second group today.

2728
01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:05,200
Speaker 4: By the way, City so had some good one on one.

2729
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:07,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, he had had the best one on one I

2730
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:08,400
Speaker 3: saw yesterday.

2731
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:13,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, he absolutely destroyed Farmer. Yeah, just Joshua Farmer.

2732
01:54:13,800 --> 01:54:16,639
Speaker 5: Donald still doesn't seem like he's getting a sniff at

2733
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:17,559
Speaker 5: at left guard yet.

2734
01:54:17,640 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 8: It's weird like him and Laden Robinson are both wrapping

2735
01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:22,439
Speaker 8: at right guard and it's like, I get you need

2736
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:24,639
Speaker 8: to have a backup. But like if they're not gonna

2737
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:27,160
Speaker 8: if they're not gonna swing, if you're not gonna have

2738
01:54:27,200 --> 01:54:27,960
Speaker 8: if you're not gonna be able.

2739
01:54:27,880 --> 01:54:30,840
Speaker 7: To multiple, you can't.

2740
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:34,920
Speaker 8: You can't be a one position backup on the especially.

2741
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 6: Exactly what Wilson said yesterday, one in the days this week.

2742
01:54:37,360 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 8: Especially on the interior. So like at some point they're

2743
01:54:40,520 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 8: gonna have to throw them in. They if they have

2744
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 8: real like hopes of them making the team, then they're

2745
01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:47,200
Speaker 8: gonna have to throw them in at left guard and

2746
01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:49,120
Speaker 8: see if can they hold up on both sides so

2747
01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:51,520
Speaker 8: that they can be a backup on game day. Otherwise

2748
01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:53,120
Speaker 8: you're one position backup.

2749
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:54,280
Speaker 7: You don't want to be.

2750
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna end it a little early today.

2751
01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: I've got some things I've got to do. Busy, but

2752
01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 2: appreciate everyone watching listening.

2753
01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:05,480
Speaker 4: Tomorrow.

2754
01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:09,520
Speaker 2: We'll be back at our normal time, No, one o'clock tomorrow.

2755
01:55:09,200 --> 01:55:11,080
Speaker 4: Right, we'll start at one o'clock again tomorrow.

2756
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:15,680
Speaker 6: Nomorris Wednesday showed them tomorrow two to four.

2757
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 8: I believe that's correct, two to four, a little bit

2758
01:55:17,720 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 8: after two because Bart's busy, so you know, a little.

2759
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 7: Laughter maybe like all the punting spars world.

2760
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:25,000
Speaker 6: We're all just living.

2761
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 8: He's got to talk to Zoe about practice.

2762
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:28,440
Speaker 4: We'll let everyone know.

2763
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 2: Okay, So catch twenty two tomorrow and then we'll be

2764
01:55:31,720 --> 01:55:32,560
Speaker 2: back on Thursday.

2765
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:33,120
Speaker 4: See you then.

2766
01:55:36,640 --> 01:55:38,760
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2767
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:40,440
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2769
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:43,800
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2770
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:44,760
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2772
01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:48,520
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2774
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