1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Jaguars, did Jack Jaguars, did you go? Jaguars Drive Time 2 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:15,239 Speaker 1: and Sex Steps John, Actually, Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: The trade yet to be official by the Jaguars or 4 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: the Vikings, but all signs pointing towards the Jaguars receiving 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: a second rounder and conditional fifth round pick first star 6 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: pass rusher Unique in gock Way. If you're watching on 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com Live, you'll see a Unique and gog 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: Ways tweet from last night tweeting out it is evident 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: my time in Jacksonville is up. But I want to 10 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: say thank you to the organization for making it a 11 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: home for myself for four years. Big focus of big 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: things in Drive Time as a whole about this potential trade, 13 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: what it means the Jaguars defensive line. But first training 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: camp is up. Today is the first day we are 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 1: focusing on the regular season as I bring in the 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: fellows Brian Sexton and John Osier. Brian, can you believe 17 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: that tomorrow is September one? No, to be honest with you, um, 18 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 1: you know, training camp is normally something in the preseason 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 1: that drags, you know, and we get to this point. 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: It's like finally. But this year has been so different, 21 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: whether it's working at home since the middle of March 22 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 1: or training camp starting late, no preseason games. You know, 23 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: we were talking on Saturday at the stadium about two 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:31,399 Speaker 1: weeks till the opener. In two weeks from today, we'll 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: be talking about how the Jaguars fared an opening day 26 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: against Philip Rivers in the Indianapolis Colts. It has certainly 27 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: gone fast. There's been plenty of news to keep things 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: moving along, whether it's social justice issues off the field 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:49,279 Speaker 1: or player performance on it. John, it's um uh, twenty 30 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: seven years in the NFL, I've never I've never experienced 31 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: anything like it. It really is unique. Yeah. I think 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: Doug Marone when he talked to the media after the 33 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: Stagram to put it best, he talked about training camp 34 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: and he sort of laughed, you guys, if you can 35 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: really call this training camp, it's it's not like anything 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,839 Speaker 1: any of us who have been around for a while 37 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: they've ever seen. But I guess the big picture for 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: the Jaguars is whatever you call what they've just done 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: for the last two or three weeks. Doug feels good 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: about it. He likes the team that he has Uh, 41 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: it does. And we'll get to this with the Unique 42 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: and Gockway thing. But it certainly feels like a fresh 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: start type season rebuild, whatever you call it. That Doug 44 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: likes the attitude and feels like he has this team 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: on board. Uh, the question is is there enough talent 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: to do anything with it? So I guess we'll find 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: that out and now we'll get to Unique, right Lynn, 48 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely definitely the big story of the day as we 49 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: get into big things. Big thing one is a new 50 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: home potentially Unique and Goway reportedly being traded to Minnesota 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: and Goka will have to sign his franchise tag to 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 1: then be traded. Report of the Vikings will have to 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,279 Speaker 1: clear up some cap space as well. But the Jaguars 54 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: now have eight picks in the first five rounds next season, 55 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: obviously a big deal going into the draft next year. 56 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: And what does this mean for the Jaguars defensive line. 57 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: We will get into that big thing too, is that's 58 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: a wrap kind of a very different training camp, like 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: we mentioned, came to an end after Saturday scrimmage inside 60 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: the stadium, first time we've been in the stadium for 61 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: a very long time. As we now shift our focus 62 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: to the regular season in the Indianapolis Colts on September. 63 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: Dumb Morone is trying to wrap his head around this 64 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: past month. I do feel the preaching of team first, 65 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: you know, team this is what we're looking for. I 66 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: do see uh, players that are that are trying to 67 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: do that, that are trying to be players that their 68 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: teammates can rely on big spots and where you know, 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: if something does happen, Um, you can recover quicker when 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: you have a bunch of guys around you that are 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: trying to get your going rather than being divisive and 72 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: and and and you know, pointing fingers and you know 73 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: then now you can't recover. So you know, these are 74 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 1: the type of messages. This is the type of things 75 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: that I'm talking to this that I've been talking to 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: this team about, you know, throughout um this time frame. 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 1: Because I still struggle Brian with you know, calling this 78 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: a camp you know, I mean, uh, it's so different 79 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 1: than anything that we've done. Finally, big thing three is 80 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew, We're gonna be honest with you. Not his 81 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: best day during Saturday's scrimmage, but ended up on a 82 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: high note. The final two drives ended up in touchdowns 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: as he got into a groove, but definitely a shaky 84 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: start at first. Overall, I think we all can say 85 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: he's made steps in the right direction going into training camp. 86 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: But let's hear what the head coach has to say 87 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: of his performance. He's put in a ton of work. Uh, 88 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, because you know, we're in that mode of 89 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, hey, we gotta go to getting ready to play, 90 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: and then you know at the end, you're like, holy cow, 91 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: where are we with throws? Where are we with this? 92 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: And you know, um, you know, trying to get him 93 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: back in. So from a mental standpoint, it's not an issue. 94 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: I think it's more, hey, let's let's get everyone back, 95 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: all right, guys. So let's go all the way back 96 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: up to big thing one with the unique and goth 97 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: Wayne news, we knew possibly a trade was pending. Honestly, 98 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings are never Brian really in the whole twitter 99 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: sphere of a possible team. So, Brian, when you heard 100 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the news yesterday morning, right and early on a Sunday morning, 101 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: what did you think. Well, actually, it confirmed my suspicion 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: that this was a team in transition. And I just 103 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: saw a tweet from Adam Schefter. That s there's the 104 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: Jaguars have released Leonard for Nett. Have you all seen 105 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: that this morning? That's Adam Schefter. That's not a fake, 106 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 1: Adam Schefter. It's the blue check Adam Schefter. We got 107 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: to figure out what this is now. This is a 108 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: team in transition. There is no out. In my mind. 109 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: I thought it in January. I applaud the coaching staff 110 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: and the players for working as if they are they 111 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: are ready to go and compete for the playoffs. But 112 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: that is not the case this year. Um. You look 113 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: at the talent that's gone just from the start of 114 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: last season. Um, the last twenty four hours, the trade 115 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 1: of in Gockway and now the release of Leonard for 116 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: Nett tells us that this is all about getting prepared 117 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: to build this football team. And beyond Yes, John, and 118 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: let me briefly interrupt you there. We're gonna have done 119 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: Brown speaking to the media live on Jaguars dot Com 120 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. Definitely gonna hear more details about Leonard 121 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: for Nette being waived as of right now. We're gonna 122 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: be honest with you. Definitely a surprise to all of 123 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,479 Speaker 1: us this morning, but that's what live television is on 124 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time. So John, Leonard Fournett, One News, Unique 125 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: and Gockway Newsy. What a crazy day? Right? Well, I 126 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm flam I mean I the Gooway thing everybody saw 127 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: coming at some point you got equity form. Uh. Frankly, 128 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: I'll have to wait until Doug speaks at nine to 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: get a sense of the Leonard Fournette thing. Uh, because 130 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,679 Speaker 1: I didn't see that one coming. I don't think anybody did. Uh. 131 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: As far as Unique and I guess Leonard fits in 132 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 1: this too, it's clear, as Brian said that this is 133 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: a restart, and I forget who said it yesterday, but 134 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: it truly is a franchise going forward now with guys 135 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: that all you know, they want to be here. They 136 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: feel like everybody who's here is on the same page. 137 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: Maybe this is the start, and maybe whatever has happened 138 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: before is rock bottom, but it's certainly has to improve 139 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: from here. Look, I mean, let's just let's deal with 140 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: the then pound elephant in the room. He year the 141 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: tank for Trevor conversation is going to become amplified this morning, 142 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: and that's probably a mild way of putting it, and 143 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: it's certainly worthy of conversation for a franchise that doesn't 144 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: have a franchise quarterback to be looking up the road 145 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: at the kid at Clemson who looks like the next 146 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, certainly Peyton Manning on the field, and maybe 147 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow off the field in terms of his his 148 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: Christian faith and his personality and all of that stuff. 149 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: Just this if if I thought yesterday that the Unique 150 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: and Gonway conversation, pardon me, the trade was going to 151 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 1: start this conversation and pour gas on the fire. But 152 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: the for Net release, I mean, Hell's bells it's on now, 153 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: I mean, that's all you're gonna hear about. I thought 154 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew and I really liked the kid, So please 155 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: don't misunderstand what I'm saying. Boy, does he have an 156 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: uphill battle to fight this year? Right, He's battling the COVID, 157 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 1: He's battling the pressure of having to have a stellar year. 158 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: Deaf end off the kid at Clemson, or take your 159 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: pick if you like the kid at Ohio State or 160 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,559 Speaker 1: North Dakota State or whatever. But this was already going 161 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: to be a huge lift for Gardener. And now, oh hey, 162 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 1: I mean Uh, I don't even know what to say. 163 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: This is. This is I go back to two thousand 164 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: and seven when the Jaguars unceremoniously dismissed Byron Leftwich after 165 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: a poor performance in Green Bay in the preseason and 166 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: handed the reins to David Garrard. I mean, I'm trying 167 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: to think of a time I can't. That was the 168 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: last time where I went what is going on? There's 169 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: no doubt what's going on now. This is full fledged 170 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: rebuild reset um. There's just no denying it. The players 171 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: and coaches won't say it. They can't. Their game is 172 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: every single day because their careers can be short. They 173 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 1: have to focus on winning now. But this franchise is 174 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: taking up uh GEO stationary twenty three mile in space orbit. 175 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: Look at where the franchise has had it. This is 176 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: stunning news this morning. Yes, absolutely, go ahead, John. Unfortunately, 177 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: it feels more like two thousand eleven than two thousand 178 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: seven when they released Gerrard right for the regular season. Uh, 179 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: you know that was stunning. I was here at that 180 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: point and with that team, you wondered at that point 181 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,199 Speaker 1: how much talent it had to move forward and actually 182 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: try to compete that's going to be the question that 183 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: you released for NET and a lot of people thought 184 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,199 Speaker 1: was their best offensive player. Again, I gotta wait to 185 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: hear what Doug says about it, because I don't really 186 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: have very much to go on in terms of why 187 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: this one happened at this point, John, you were definitely 188 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: two thousand seven. Let me tell you, it does not 189 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 1: feel like two thousand and eleven. It feels like two 190 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: thousand and seven because this team was saying it has 191 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: more talent than the two thousand and eleven team. Now 192 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't have the quarterback, but it has more talent 193 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: than two thousand and eleven. And there's nobody downtown but 194 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: had anything except that this is a team that's going 195 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: to go out and try to win this year. So 196 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: to me, this the stunning move is the dismissal of 197 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: the quarterback, just like today it's the dismissal of the 198 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: running back. 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All right, let's check out the latest 248 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter about this Leonard Fournett big news this morning, 249 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport tweeting out after months of attempting to trade 250 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: the former first rounder, Leonard Fournette is gone. Brian and John, 251 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: I think let's stick with the big news of the 252 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: morning regardless of our show. Brian, we knew that over 253 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: the off sne and there were trade talks about Leonard Fournett. 254 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: But honestly, I'm gonna be Frank, I'm very surprised about 255 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: this because we've been hearing around the building that he's 256 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 1: been great so far in training camp, definitely making an 257 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: impact on the field. So do you take this as 258 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: just a major clean up like we've been saying that 259 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 1: Doug is trying to rebuild from the bottom down and 260 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: get everyone he wants in the building. Well, my first 261 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: thought is is that Doug Moron must have been told 262 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: that he's going to be back to finish his contract, 263 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: right that that he's not only been given this year, 264 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: but next, and maybe Dave Caldwell as well. I mean, 265 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: you don't see these kinds of moves from general managers 266 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: and coaches who are on the brink of losing their job. 267 00:14:57,440 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: And yet that's what everyone assumes that this is unprecedented. 268 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: You just you don't see guys who need to win 269 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: taking a player like Leonard for Nett and taking a 270 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: player like Unique and Gowkway and dismissing them. Um, you know, 271 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: we can talk about personalities in the locker room all 272 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: you want, but you have to deal with the fact 273 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: here that that Doug Morone they let go of a 274 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: player this morning yesterday when they traded a Gockway. Okay, 275 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: I started calculating the salary cap and with the seventeen 276 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: point eight million that will come back to them that 277 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: will go forward, because I assume there's no one they're 278 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: gonna pay this year, all of that money goes forward 279 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: next year. I had them at the top of the 280 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: league right with Indianapolis at about seventy six million, dollars 281 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: right now. Add on to that, so the Dragonars are 282 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: gonna enter next off season with not only the most 283 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: salary cap dollars available, but maybe the most draft capital 284 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: available as well. I mean, this is just I'm trying 285 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: to wrap my brain around this, and it just comes 286 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: back to a screaming, Hey, this team is in full rebuild. 287 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: They won't say that, but that's exactly what this it. Well, 288 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: you talk about getting the cap in order. I mean, 289 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, that was the whole thing of the off season, 290 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: and this is clearly the last two days, two more 291 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: moves towards that. It also and I can't remember if 292 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: Doug said this in the off season or if it 293 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: was just the overall impression of the off season. So 294 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to put words in his mouth, but 295 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: there is a feeling of if you're gonna go down, 296 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: if if, if you're going to fight this fight, meaning 297 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: this season, do it with guys that you want around. 298 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: And to me, there's no you know, we haven't heard 299 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: Doug talk about this, so I'm assuming, but this is 300 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: a case of I want guys who I believe in, 301 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: who believe in me, etcetera, etcetera. Uh, that's what this 302 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: feels like is let's get guys who are all pulling 303 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: in the same direction, and let's move forward and see 304 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: what we can do with a bunch of guys who 305 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: want to fight and win for this team. That's what 306 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: it feels like. You know, let her was so good 307 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago when he was when he 308 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: did his uh his only real media availability over Zoom, 309 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 1: and he talked about wanting to win, about not wanting 310 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: to be a jerk about having had a pretty good 311 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: season last year, but wanting to capitalize and have a 312 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: bigger season this year. And I think, you know, outside 313 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: of DJ Chark, you could have made the case that 314 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette was the best player on offense. Now, that 315 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: might not have lasted very long. Lavisca Chennault may have 316 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: exploded past. You might have seen the same thing with 317 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: DJ Chark. But I mean, this guy, he had nearly 318 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: seventeen hundred yards from scrimmage last year and had he 319 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: mixed in more than three touchdowns, we would have talked 320 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: about a guy that had Pro Bowl caliber numbers, and 321 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: they just let him go. They didn't even they didn't 322 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: even wanted for a conditional seventh round pick. Either they 323 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: couldn't get it or they didn't want him here at 324 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: the expense of that. I think that's what is so 325 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: incredibly interesting. And you know, to walk down that road 326 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: of personalities. You know, Leonard over the years has been 327 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: a difficult guy at times, and those teammates of him 328 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: in Gokwai same thing. A difficult person to deal with 329 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Jayla Ramsey a really difficult human 330 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: being to deal with. Dante Fowler Jr. A difficult guy 331 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: to get your arms wrapped around, and who had some 332 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: off the field issues that embarrass the franchise. There's no 333 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: doubt they have taken personalities that they didn't like. As 334 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 1: John just said and just said, you know what, we're 335 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: gonna go forward without them, will admit our mistakes. They've 336 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: got cash, they've got draft capital. Buckle up. I mean, 337 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: this is a year where the fans are going to 338 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: be empty anyway for goodness sake. So you know, it's 339 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: not like you've got the pressure of people going. Man, 340 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: not only they stink, but their fans won't even show 341 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: up because they're gonna be one of the teams that 342 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: has fans in the stands. Maybe this is just maybe 343 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: just this is the perfect storm. You're not gonna have 344 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: fans in the stands anyway, so you're not gonna take 345 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: the black eye. There's all kinds of draft capital and 346 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 1: all kinds of cash, and you've got a kid at 347 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Clemson who looks like he's the next Peyton Manning and 348 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: he has a personality that fits this marketplace. Hey, maybe 349 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: tag for Trevor is real. No one will say it. 350 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying it. Maybe it's real. Yep. Definitely going to 351 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: see what this breaking news means. We done her own 352 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: live at nine am. As we come back, we're going 353 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: to talk about what this means for the Jaguars running 354 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: back room as a whole. 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Alrighty, we're 396 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: back on Jacks Drive time Monday morning, handling the breaking 397 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: news of the Leonard for Net release, and this was 398 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 1: already going to be my hot take, so it fits 399 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: in perfectly. Guys, we're gonna talk about the running back 400 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: room now without Leonard for Net. My hot take was 401 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: going to be the redback set is coming back with 402 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent James Robinson playing a role. We've seen 403 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,959 Speaker 1: great things out of this guy during training camp. We 404 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: have heard the coaching staff loves him. Now that you 405 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: have free agent Chris Thompson coming in, Quel Arm said 406 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: divine Exebo. Let's look at the running back room as 407 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: a whole right now with the current roster. Honestly, a 408 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: lot of these guys have similar running styles to Wind 409 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: in front and definitely a violent running group. But Brian, 410 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: what do you think of this dream as a whole, 411 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 1: and what do you think of that guy I just 412 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: mentioned James Robinson. I know he's definitely turned all our 413 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: heads so far in camp. Yeah, you know, look, I 414 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 1: mean you can find running backs back in. The Jaguars 415 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 1: made a mistake in drafting Letard for net We know now, 416 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 1: right because there were two quarterbacks that were right there 417 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: for them, Patrick Mahomes and Deshaun Watson, who are both 418 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: you know, future their current stars and long term stars 419 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: for their teams. And the reason they made a mistake 420 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: is you just don't draft running backs that high. You 421 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: can find product to running backs in a lot of 422 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 1: different ways. Now, the flip side of that is is 423 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: that they went to the a C Championship game and 424 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: they don't go without Leonard for Net. So you kind 425 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: of bobble it up, you were quite Armstead is a 426 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: power back. He's not as talented as Leonard for Nett, 427 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: but he's a guy they can get productive yardage from 428 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: the Robinson kid, the Catrell kid from Georgia Tech. There 429 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: have been a number of running backs who have flashed 430 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,119 Speaker 1: and impressed through the course of camp. Are they Leonard 431 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: for Net caliber players. No, But this is a passing league, 432 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: and if you're going to throw the football, you can 433 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: do with a running back that you find in the second, third, 434 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: or fourth round. Yeah. I mean, all the running backs 435 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: so far in basically non contact situations have looked fine. 436 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: Robinson's looked fine, zig Bows looked good. I think, uh, 437 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, right, quite Armstead. We saw flashes earlier last year. 438 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: And as Brian said, the reality in the NFL right 439 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: now is, yes, there will be a drop off in 440 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: just pure physical talent between for Net and the other guys. 441 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 1: But is that Are you gonna lose this much production 442 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: because of it? Or are you gonna lose this much 443 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 1: production because the lack of talent or because of the 444 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: drop off in talent, I think it's probably this much 445 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: and whatever else they're gaining, which they feel with with 446 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 1: locker room, with pulling in the same direction, whatever they 447 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: feel like they're going to gain that much more. So, Uh, 448 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: you know, you can't sit here and make a case 449 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: that it's a better running back room talent wise without him. 450 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: But as Brian said, in this day and age in 451 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: the NFL, the drop off from losing a power, physical 452 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 1: runner with not great missability probably doesn't lose you that 453 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,440 Speaker 1: much in terms of real on the field, but it's 454 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: sure gonna lose you a lot in terms of the perception. 455 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: Right now, the franchise m definitely shocking news this morning, 456 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: and as of right now, the running back room is 457 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: talent as a committee looking at all of these guys 458 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: now to hopefully make an impact. 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First few short moments on Wars Drive Time 493 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: on a Monday morning, brought to you by Jet Homelands, 494 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,720 Speaker 1: dealing with the breaking news that running Back Leonard for 495 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: Net has been waved. We do not have many details 496 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 1: right now. The tweet was just sent as we started 497 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: our show. So Doug Brown is going to have a 498 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: much better explanation live at nine o'clock on Jaguars dot 499 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: com Live. You can watch that on Twitter and Facebook 500 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: as well. We will be out at practice around eleven o'clock. 501 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 1: Stay c J. Henderson set to address the media after practice. 502 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: We'll see if that changes now because of this news. 503 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: Stay tuned Jaguars dot com to hear all about the 504 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: breaking news this morning. Thanks for tuning in at jags 505 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: Drive Time will way back Wednesday morning, m m hm