WEBVTT - Josh Brooks

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite Office episode?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that sounds like picking your favorite kid. That's

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<v Speaker 2>I am Josh Brooks, the Jay Reed Parker, director Athletics

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<v Speaker 2>at the University of Georgia and Office super fan.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi there, everybody, We're back. You're back. We're all here.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Off the Beat, and I am your host,

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<v Speaker 3>Brian Baumgartner. I'm so stoked for our guest today. He's

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty big deal to me, and he should be

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<v Speaker 3>to anyone who loves college sports. Josh Brooks happens to

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<v Speaker 3>be the athletic director of my childhood love, the University

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<v Speaker 3>of Georgia Bulldogs, and over the last three years, he

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<v Speaker 3>has helped lead their athletic program to unprecedented heights in softball, volleyball, soccer,

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<v Speaker 3>track and field, and of course their football team back

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<v Speaker 3>to back national championships the last two years and one

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<v Speaker 3>more if I have my way this year, go Dogs.

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<v Speaker 3>In this conversation, you're going to hear how I met Josh.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just say it was a viral moment. To be sure,

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<v Speaker 3>Josh is a fan of the Office, So yes, we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk a little Office today. But now the

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<v Speaker 3>truth is, I'm about as big a fan of his

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<v Speaker 3>work as he is of mine. He's just about the

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<v Speaker 3>best in the business in college athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>He's up for awards.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's the thing, he's even nicer than he is accomplished.

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<v Speaker 3>So I can't wait for you to get to know him.

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<v Speaker 3>Today he talks frankly about a multitude of topics, ripping

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<v Speaker 3>through the headlines of college sports, controversy at Michigan, pressures

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<v Speaker 3>of nil, and of course the transfer portal. You're not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna want to miss this. And Josh, guess what, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to release this to the public, just like you

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<v Speaker 3>sent us viral a few years ago. Yeah, this thing

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<v Speaker 3>right here, this is going to be on the intranet.

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<v Speaker 3>Here he is my buddy, Josh Brooks.

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<v Speaker 1>Bubble and squeak. I love it, bubble and squeak on

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<v Speaker 1>bubble and squeak, I could.

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<v Speaker 2>Get every mole lift over from the nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Before Go Dogs, Go Dogs.

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<v Speaker 5>Got the hat on, love.

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<v Speaker 3>It Go Dogs. Of course I have the hat on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm excited. I'm ready to go. How you doing, I'm great.

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<v Speaker 2>We're what forty nine hours await and kick off.

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<v Speaker 3>Forty nine hours as we're recording this podcast from the

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<v Speaker 3>SEC championship game. I'm so excited about this game. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's going to be the proverbial game of the

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<v Speaker 3>century that happens every year.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you feeling about it?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm always I'm nervous, but I'm I'm nervous

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<v Speaker 2>for every game, whether it's a we have a women's

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<v Speaker 2>basketball game tonight or men's basketball game last night. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>I live in a state of nervousness for every game.

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<v Speaker 2>But thankfully I don't have to do anything but just

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<v Speaker 2>show up.

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<v Speaker 1>So how many games do you go to over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of a week. Are you going to awake game?

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<v Speaker 2>I never miss a football away game. I tried to

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<v Speaker 2>make a few away games of other sports if I can,

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<v Speaker 2>when the travel works out. If it's instabl a tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>I try to go so but there's a conflict, Like

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<v Speaker 2>our volleyball team is playing in Provo, Utah tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 2>but that game is six thirty Eastern time in Utah

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<v Speaker 2>and there's no way I can make it back.

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<v Speaker 5>So I won't make that.

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<v Speaker 2>But last year we were playing in Austin, Texas volleyball

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<v Speaker 2>and I went to blab blah match front in Texas,

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<v Speaker 2>flew back, got into Atlanta, you know, two o'clock in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning and made it back to the city champion game.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'll try to get you know, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of travel, you know, just this week alone. Men were

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<v Speaker 2>on the road. Last night in Florida State women played

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<v Speaker 2>Duke tonight at home. Men basketball have Mercier Friday night,

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<v Speaker 2>women blulleyball first round Ares of State at Utah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then football Saturday. So it's twenty one sports. It's NonStop.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's fun, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it sounds very fun. It sounds like a

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<v Speaker 3>good job to me. But yes, being on the road

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<v Speaker 3>that much is a lot. I learned a lot about you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean I knew about you, but I've learned

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about you in preparing to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fascinating stuff. First off, I want to I want

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<v Speaker 3>to mention how we got connected, you and you and

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<v Speaker 3>I take us through the because we haven't fully talked

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<v Speaker 3>about it. I don't know exactly how it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it was when you got the position as

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<v Speaker 1>the athletic director of Georgia. Tell me what happened.

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<v Speaker 5>So it all starts.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a good group of buddies Clark, Will Brad

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<v Speaker 2>and Tanner. We have a group text, and it's one

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<v Speaker 2>of those group texts that's been going on for ten

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<v Speaker 2>plus years, and it's always full of you know, office

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<v Speaker 2>memes or this and that, where you know, it's NonStop

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<v Speaker 2>this and that, and Clark is Clark and I debate

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<v Speaker 2>over who's the bigger Office fan. We even had a

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<v Speaker 2>bet at the end of the series that he thought

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<v Speaker 2>Jim and Pam were going to break up and he

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<v Speaker 2>had to buy me dinner when they did not, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of an optimist and Clark's more of a realistic.

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<v Speaker 2>Clark's like, they're going to break He was so set

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<v Speaker 2>that they were going to break up that he saw

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<v Speaker 2>it coming. So we've been Office diehearts a long as time.

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<v Speaker 2>We knew you had a connection to Georgia, and so

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<v Speaker 2>Clark being the diehard fan he was. The day that

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<v Speaker 2>I got the eight job, he did the cameo with

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<v Speaker 2>you Yeah, and he shows up at my house. He's

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<v Speaker 2>and he's just like, hey, I need to show you something. Now.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm thinking, oh god, three days in the job, there's

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<v Speaker 5>a problem. What's wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I got to show you this, and he

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<v Speaker 2>goes he connects my TV with his phone and he

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<v Speaker 2>streams it and you pop up and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, this is the creazy And then and

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<v Speaker 2>then you went above and beyond, which was great because

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't just a normal like you just you. You

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<v Speaker 2>made it so much better and it was And then

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<v Speaker 2>I think I posted it or shared it. Yes, and

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<v Speaker 2>then it went viral, and I wonder if he's even

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<v Speaker 2>gonna see this?

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<v Speaker 3>It went, it went viral, So from my perspective, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I get requests to send people messages and I saw

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<v Speaker 3>this request and I'm like, well, this is fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the new guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think I went crazy and said a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of go dogs type things. Of course, the wolf wolf.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think much about it. And then suddenly Yahoo

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<v Speaker 3>Sports ESPs like suddenly this thing is like living on

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<v Speaker 3>and on.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really fun. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's funny because sometimes in our world we think

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<v Speaker 2>so small, we're like, does he is he even gonna

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<v Speaker 2>see this? He even gonna realize that this thing's going viral?

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<v Speaker 3>You made sure, No, you made sure that I was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna see it. I mean, it went it went everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>which was very very fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got me some cool points. But people were like,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you pull that off? Like, well, Clark, it

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<v Speaker 2>was a great president from Clark.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, Well we'll talk a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 3>the office in a bit. You grew up in Louisiana, Hammond, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand you played high school football. What position did

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<v Speaker 3>you play?

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<v Speaker 5>Linebacker?

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<v Speaker 1>You were a linebacker?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you tough or no?

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<v Speaker 5>Toughnes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's probably the only attribute you could give me

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<v Speaker 2>credit for is being at least being tough.

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<v Speaker 5>I could. I will claim that, not fast, not.

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<v Speaker 1>Slow and tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, slow and sough. I would I would make the tackle.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't pretty right. My coach would often yell at

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<v Speaker 2>me about the way I would tackle. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>results oriented is how I would tackle. That's the best

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<v Speaker 2>way to describe myself.

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<v Speaker 5>But very average.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And now I don't know if these things normally

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<v Speaker 3>go together. They seemed not to me, But what do

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<v Speaker 3>I know? So you played a high school football and

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<v Speaker 3>then you also threw the javelin.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's a random one.

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<v Speaker 2>That was one that my older brother's friend threw it

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<v Speaker 2>in high school and he got a scholarship LSU and

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<v Speaker 2>his dad sort of helped me out, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>a basically like a moneyball way for me to find

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<v Speaker 2>an event that no one else was doing. And with

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<v Speaker 2>a bad arm but good technique, you could make up

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<v Speaker 2>for a lot of you know, you could make up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of ground. So just because I had a

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<v Speaker 2>really good technique, I could beat a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>But what happened was in high school, the coach knew

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<v Speaker 2>I was so good at the technique and he had

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<v Speaker 2>no idea how to throw it. That he'd often bring

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<v Speaker 2>like the kid with the strongest arm out to practice.

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<v Speaker 2>Say hey, Josh, teach this kid how to throw, And

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<v Speaker 2>a week later he's still kicking my button. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>why did I even show this guy?

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<v Speaker 5>Killing me?

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<v Speaker 2>So I inevitably trained everybody to be better than me

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<v Speaker 2>and javelin. I guess that's what I thought. I'd be

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<v Speaker 2>a good coach at that point, because when you can't

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<v Speaker 2>do something, you coach it as best you can.

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<v Speaker 3>When was the last time you threw a javelin? Do

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<v Speaker 3>you go show your students?

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<v Speaker 1>Now?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, my son he wants to be at the athlete.

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<v Speaker 2>He's training for to be a Catholic. Right now, javelin's

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<v Speaker 2>one of his events. So I've been working with him

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<v Speaker 2>on that and I've taught him how to throw, but

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<v Speaker 2>my track team did not know. Most of the majority

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<v Speaker 2>of my track team had no idea. I threw the

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<v Speaker 2>javelin in high school and we had a staff to

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<v Speaker 2>kathlon a year ago or so, and I missed the

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<v Speaker 2>first part of it. And I walked out to the

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<v Speaker 2>kathalan late where the staff was all competing and ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of staff could barely throw javelin.

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<v Speaker 5>And I showed up in a tie, slacks and dress shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I took my dress shoes off, with the tie still on,

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<v Speaker 2>slack still on, grabbed the javelin and beat everybody on

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<v Speaker 2>the staff.

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<v Speaker 5>And to throw it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was that became that video off the texta to you.

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<v Speaker 2>It became a little viral because it just looks so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Some guy barefooted in a tie slinging a javelin.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know what, that reminds me of another guy

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<v Speaker 3>in a sport coat and a tie and dress shoes

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<v Speaker 3>shooting hoops.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah. That No one saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Come that's with that, and no one saw.

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<v Speaker 2>I watched that episode, uh just the two days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a matter of fact, if.

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<v Speaker 3>You need somebody to come and teach your guys and

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<v Speaker 3>gals there how to shoot.

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<v Speaker 5>Shoot for throws if nothing else.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you got it's by the way, that's fifteen that's

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<v Speaker 3>free throw line extended. That's an that's a fifteen foot

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<v Speaker 3>arc around that I was hitting. And that was one take.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh really and no edits on the DVD. There's thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>in a row. They are you serious? Greg Daniels called

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<v Speaker 3>me and said, I'm really sorry. We couldn't use six

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<v Speaker 3>minutes of the episode. You just shoot in free throws.

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<v Speaker 3>We had We had to out edit it down a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit. Uh you went to LSU, did you always?

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<v Speaker 3>Being from Louisiana? Was that where you always wanted to go?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when you grow up in South Louisiana, that becomes

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<v Speaker 2>the home based school you root for and the place

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<v Speaker 2>you care about. And uh so that was my childhood

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<v Speaker 2>dream to to go to LSU. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>my dream in high school was to be the head

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<v Speaker 2>wall coach there one day and and win national championships.

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<v Speaker 2>That was always that in my mind in high school,

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I was going to do.

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<v Speaker 5>And people thought it.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, people thought I was crazy, but they I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that dream at an early age, and people made

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<v Speaker 2>fun of me about it at early age, which is

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<v Speaker 2>funny now because now my mom will run into somebody

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<v Speaker 2>from my hometown and like, they always knew you were

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<v Speaker 2>going to do big things. I'm like, no, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't make fun of me all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't hear that.

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<v Speaker 1>So, so you initially you wanted to be a coach.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I left LSU after being a student assistant

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<v Speaker 2>and I worked for jimbo Fisher, he was the office

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<v Speaker 2>coordinat quarterbacks coach LSU Samean was a head coach. I

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<v Speaker 2>left to go to Louisianman Road to be a GA

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<v Speaker 2>and I coached there for two years, and then after

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<v Speaker 2>two years of being a GA there, my head coach

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<v Speaker 2>offered me a job as football ops. He's like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't really hire people that didn't play colshawal,

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<v Speaker 2>but you're really good at computers, you're organized.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you have a career path in this and

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<v Speaker 5>I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't understand it, but I'm so glad he did

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<v Speaker 2>that for me because I've enjoyed this pathway although there's

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<v Speaker 2>always that little pool in your heartstrings of like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>what if I was, you know, still coaching into it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but obviously I can't complain.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's how that's that's what put you on the path.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, is that that change where I literally got out

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<v Speaker 2>of coaching and went into administration. That but I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, twenty three, twenty four years old, off for

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<v Speaker 2>my first full time job, making twenty thousand dollars a year.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was rich and made it and I

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<v Speaker 2>was ready to start my career.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, by the way you just rolled through some names,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna I'm gonna roll through a few more. You're

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<v Speaker 3>at LSU. Saban is the coach. Jimbo Fisher is there

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<v Speaker 3>as the OC if I'm if I'm not mistaken, Freddy

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<v Speaker 3>Kitchens is there, Adam Gate, Adam Gase is there, Will

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<v Speaker 3>must Him mus Him is there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this is Sarah Dooley.

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<v Speaker 2>Stan Hickson is there. At the same time, Derek Dooley

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<v Speaker 2>was coaching tight ends recruiting coordinator. Stan Hickson a longtime

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<v Speaker 2>great coach, worked with Michael Haywood who was eventually you know,

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<v Speaker 2>coached the places.

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<v Speaker 1>Say it was a this is the tree. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>this is literally the tree.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was insanity to think to be in just

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<v Speaker 2>to be as a student assistant charting and being on

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<v Speaker 2>the headset listening to Coach Fisher and and all those

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<v Speaker 2>guys talk and be witness to that was just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>What a great experience at twenty one years old to

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<v Speaker 2>see and hear those things.

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<v Speaker 3>As you mentioned, you end up going to Louisiana Monroe.

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<v Speaker 3>But I got to ask you a question. If LSU

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<v Speaker 3>called and said, come be the athletic director here, do

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<v Speaker 3>you go?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean honestly, people ask me that question all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was a bad question. No, No, what I want.

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<v Speaker 1>I want the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I like to be a public about it because it's

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<v Speaker 2>no disrespect to LSU. It's a great place, great people. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I've got a ton of family back there. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you go from LSU and you work at Louisiana in

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<v Speaker 2>row so many years, you lose the tie to the

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<v Speaker 2>to your institution, and it because more about people you

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<v Speaker 2>work with. So I don't even root for LSU. I

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<v Speaker 2>just root for people I've worked with more than anything else.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I've been at Georgia now fourteen years my

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<v Speaker 2>children were born here. You know, this is my home,

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<v Speaker 2>this is my place, this is this is where I

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<v Speaker 2>want to spend the rest of my life.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's no, and I don't mean.

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<v Speaker 3>That that's where you want to spend the rest of your life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you're on the record right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My dream is to work here until I can retire,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I'd love to live here after that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if you look at the track record of people, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's football coaches or other coaches that or administrators that

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<v Speaker 2>have worked here and then retire stay here, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a great mean. I'm not trying to be, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>over the top about my love of Athens, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's just a really great place to live. And

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<v Speaker 2>if they'll have me, I'll stay as long as as

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<v Speaker 2>long as I can.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have to ask you about your time. I

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<v Speaker 3>love this. At Louisiana Monroe. You're a graduate assistant and

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<v Speaker 3>I read the story that the budget was very low

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<v Speaker 3>to the athletic department there. That is a fair assessment,

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<v Speaker 3>and the school could not afford snacks for the football

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<v Speaker 3>players for the football players after summer workouts, So you

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<v Speaker 3>went to a local store and you struck a deal

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<v Speaker 3>to get peanut butter and jelly and a local bakery

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<v Speaker 3>to give bread, and you and other graduate assistants would

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<v Speaker 3>make peanut butter and jelly sandwiches for the football players.

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<v Speaker 2>True or false, That is true. That's that's some good

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<v Speaker 2>research right there. That's a impressive.

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<v Speaker 3>We've got a cracked team here. Gosh, we didn't have.

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<v Speaker 3>I found out a lot I won't talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's this.

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<v Speaker 2>This was before the days of the resources that you

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<v Speaker 2>can now provide without any cost, you know, to student athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>And we didn't have a lot of money back then

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<v Speaker 2>at Monroe. So we're very resourceful. And I went to

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<v Speaker 2>the local grocery shore they would give us gift cards

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<v Speaker 2>a week exchange for peb and j and then the

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<v Speaker 2>local bakery would give me like two day old bread.

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<v Speaker 2>So me and the student systems would make sandwiches NonStop,

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<v Speaker 2>put them, wrap them up, put them in the refrigerator,

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<v Speaker 2>and the kids would come by all summer. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>how we kept our team. You know, they had meal

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<v Speaker 2>plans and stuff, but this was their way to get

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<v Speaker 2>all the extra stuff instead of the shakes and smoothies

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<v Speaker 2>and things like that, this was hard. Something's a little

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<v Speaker 2>that's a low fridge and it helped feed me a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of days a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's just like yesterday for you, but but it's

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<v Speaker 3>been so long. Two thousand and seven. You're there, you're

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<v Speaker 3>the director of football operations at Louisiana Monroe and you

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<v Speaker 3>play a game in Tuscaloosa. And now this is Saban's

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<v Speaker 3>first year with the Tide. He's gone to Alabama and

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<v Speaker 3>Louisiana Monroe wins in Tuscaloosa twenty one to fourteen?

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<v Speaker 1>Were you there?

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<v Speaker 2>I was for bops there. Yeah, I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you were in the stadium.

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<v Speaker 5>I was on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 1>You were on the sidelines. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that where your hatred for Alabama started? Not hatred

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<v Speaker 3>your rivalry?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>And Saban is there and you had worked under him

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<v Speaker 3>at LSU, Like, how special was that game for you personally?

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<v Speaker 2>That was special for me honestly, because you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>felt there was an tunity that I had to that

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<v Speaker 2>I was interviewed for a job. The one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>to tell about when I was at Monroe. After my

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<v Speaker 2>first year at Monroe, coach Fisher called me back up

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<v Speaker 2>and said there was a job opportunity for it to

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<v Speaker 2>be a g A at l s U. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>I interviewed and didn't get it. That's a whole nother story.

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<v Speaker 2>But so there was a little bit of a resentment

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<v Speaker 2>towards Jelish. That's where a little bit of my resentment

0:17:23.400 --> 0:17:25.480
<v Speaker 2>started towards Jellis shoes that I didn't get that job.

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<v Speaker 2>They won a national championship the next year while I

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<v Speaker 2>was still at Monroe, So there was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a you know, not a rabbit free but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>me wanting to beat him.

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<v Speaker 5>But at the same time, you know it's you. You

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<v Speaker 5>have to I have to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Thankful for coach Saban and everything else, for I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be where I am today without all those coaches in

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<v Speaker 2>the experience. So it's a mixed emotion of yeah, I

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.399
<v Speaker 2>wanted to beat him, you want to beat everybody. But

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<v Speaker 2>that's where it started a little bit for me. And

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<v Speaker 2>I always loved to give Kirby a hard time about

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<v Speaker 2>that because he was at A at Bama that year too,

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<v Speaker 2>So whenever he makes a jab at me, I always

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<v Speaker 2>remind him that he was on the side the other

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<v Speaker 2>sidelines of that game when I let we took them down.

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<v Speaker 2>But the funny thing about that story, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>not me, this was one of the coaches in our staff.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you're a school like Louisiana Monroe and you

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<v Speaker 2>play Alabama normally, when you lose that game and you're

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<v Speaker 2>shaking hands with the other coaches, one of the common

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<v Speaker 2>comments that the big school tells a small school. And

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<v Speaker 2>I've been on the other end of this a million times, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>good luck and conference. It's kind of a way of

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<v Speaker 2>saying like, yeah, we beat you, but we're gonna hope

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<v Speaker 2>you'll do all in your conference. One of our coaches

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<v Speaker 2>went right up to one of the BAMA coaches and

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<v Speaker 2>the strip said, good luck a conference.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh that's so good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't take one thing I've learned in

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<v Speaker 2>this like I don't take victory laps. I don't do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've always tried to and all victories stay

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<v Speaker 2>humble because you know, when you come up through Monroe

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<v Speaker 2>and when you come up that end, you've been on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been on both sides of it. So I've learned

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<v Speaker 2>in this profession you better stay humble or you will

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<v Speaker 2>quickly be humbled. So I don't take victory laps. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>when we beat someone, I go to my counterpart and

0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I was like just hugging them and giving

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<v Speaker 2>him a nice handshake and just saying could get you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I've never before I celebrate. I try to at least be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, glad, you're a nice guy.

0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.600
<v Speaker 2>I am a nice I've tried to be at least.

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<v Speaker 1>Briefly.

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<v Speaker 3>You go to Georgia twenty eight to fourteen for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time, your football ops. There, you are getting your

0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:43.760
<v Speaker 3>masters at the same time, right that you become an

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<v Speaker 3>associate athletic director. There are you just working your ass off?

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<v Speaker 2>And I think so that was in like twelve through fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had I had twin three year old and

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<v Speaker 2>a one year old at the time, so my wife

0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:00.760
<v Speaker 2>appreciated the uh, maybe I can't help with the kids.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to study for this mid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where she's going to heaven for sure she's the

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<v Speaker 3>saying yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>So I knew.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the case in every situation, but in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of situations, when they post an a d job,

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<v Speaker 2>they say there's a requirement of a master's degree, or

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<v Speaker 2>at least say master's degree. For so I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need to check this box just to not if

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<v Speaker 2>any reason that someone couldn't interview me God or any reason.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, so I went into it with the

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<v Speaker 2>mindset of I need to check this box. But actually

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<v Speaker 2>I went to grad school Georgia and it was great

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<v Speaker 2>for two things. One it made me think in different

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<v Speaker 2>ways that I hadn't before from a textbook standpoint in

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<v Speaker 2>sports management. And two, it brought me a deeper connection

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<v Speaker 2>with Georgia because now it's prideful to say, like I'm

0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 2>a Georgia grad, I'm not a lum, and that that

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<v Speaker 2>means something to me. That the fact that I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be in the rest of my life that I

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<v Speaker 2>can say I'm not just a you know, person worked

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<v Speaker 2>to have a person who actually graduate career. So that's

0:20:53.680 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 2>helped deepen my connection and makes it makes it a

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<v Speaker 2>little more special for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you get that degree and immediately get an

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<v Speaker 3>athletic director job Millsaps College there in Jackson, Mississippi. This

0:21:08.240 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 3>was my fun fact about this time. You were one

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<v Speaker 3>of the first athletic directors and a young athletic director,

0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 3>a newly minted athletic director, in college sports to introduce

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<v Speaker 3>on site beer gardens at the game, and you had

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<v Speaker 3>a little pushback.

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<v Speaker 1>On this is that right?

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<v Speaker 3>Talk to me about the decision that, like, why did

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<v Speaker 3>you make the decision? Why did you feel like it

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<v Speaker 3>was a good thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I felt at a place like Millsaps, you can

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<v Speaker 2>take chances, I thought, And it's a place where I

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<v Speaker 2>could take a chance to do something different. And I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that organically you weren't going to have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people just show up at millsapsotball games in Jacksonsissippi,

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<v Speaker 2>So we had to do something different to excite the

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<v Speaker 2>local families and people to come out to games. So

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<v Speaker 2>when I went on the interview at Millsaps, I said,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to be myself to the full play it

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<v Speaker 2>all out there. I've had a few ideas, one of

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<v Speaker 2>them will being the beer guarden. But there was a

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<v Speaker 2>handful of ideas I pitched, and I said, they're there

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<v Speaker 2>gonna like me, or they're gonna hire me, or they're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna like me, and they're not gonna hire me,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wouldn't be meant to be. So I pitched

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<v Speaker 2>all my ideas like that and a few other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Similar to that, and they loved them. And I get

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<v Speaker 2>there and I get hired in July, and the football

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<v Speaker 2>season obviously starts to September, and I thought, okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna wait till a year in and start the beer guarden.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't come in and throw all your crazy ideas

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<v Speaker 2>out there. And then a couple of weeks in people

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<v Speaker 2>were like, hey, man, what's up this beer guarden?

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<v Speaker 5>You told us about an interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, okay, I guess we're doing this so so.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, we had a Methodist affiliation at Millsaps.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting because not to get too into deep

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<v Speaker 2>into the rigionport, but there was a debate amongst some

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<v Speaker 2>different Methodists entities basically arguing John Wesley's feelings on alcohol.

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<v Speaker 2>Some felt it was none and some felt that it

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<v Speaker 2>was in moderation. And I felt that this was a

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<v Speaker 2>good way to moderate drinking in a way people could

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<v Speaker 2>do it safely because people weren't getting.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, they weren't.

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<v Speaker 2>We were controlling it, and it was a way to

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<v Speaker 2>do it responsibly. But you know, the the hate mail

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<v Speaker 2>I got was actually from people who weren't even affiliated

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<v Speaker 2>with most steps. It was just random people from other

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<v Speaker 2>faiths that were sending me letters. And it got a

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<v Speaker 2>little nasty there for a little bit, but it with

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<v Speaker 2>all things that passed and and they still have it today.

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<v Speaker 2>And what's funny, and this is funny, but not funny.

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<v Speaker 2>The beer garden is right next to the kid zone.

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<v Speaker 2>We created a kid zone too, And that sounds funny,

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<v Speaker 2>but it works out great because the parents want to

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<v Speaker 2>drop their kids off at the kids zone, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>at the beer garden and let little Johnny and Susie

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<v Speaker 2>run around. And so it was about making making it

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<v Speaker 2>more than just a game. And I said that with

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<v Speaker 2>all due respect to the student athletes, but we had

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<v Speaker 2>to do something bigger. So we we we created a

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<v Speaker 2>kid zone, a beer garden. We took the student section

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<v Speaker 2>and we would do fun things like we did a

0:23:50.440 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 2>phone party one time during a game where we literally

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<v Speaker 2>had a big phone pit and just let the students

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<v Speaker 2>have fun. So it was it was a place where

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<v Speaker 2>you could try things, make mistakes.

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<v Speaker 5>Learn and grow.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just a phenomenal place for me to

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<v Speaker 2>get to cut my teeth and trust some things.

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<v Speaker 3>After a couple more years at Louisiana Monroe, you go

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<v Speaker 3>back to Georgia. Now, when you go back to Georgia

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty sixteen to take an associate athletic directory job,

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<v Speaker 3>do you see that as your path? Do you think

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to be there forever?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the I left in fourteen to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Millsaps And you'll limp to get outside of my

0:24:25.840 --> 0:24:28.879
<v Speaker 2>comfort zone. If you can imagine at Georgia, I'd come

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<v Speaker 2>up through the ranks and then I was associated, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was in just a couple of areas of responsibility

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>and I had to step out of that to get

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<v Speaker 2>experience in fundraising and marketing and ticket sales and everything else.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when I came back to Georgia, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a all due respect to everyone in the building, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm coming back to take that next step.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Gonna be patient on it because I didn't know if

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<v Speaker 2>i'd get I knew Greg, my previous boss, was he

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<v Speaker 2>had a few left, he was going to retire at

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<v Speaker 2>some point. But I was okay with Okay, if I

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<v Speaker 2>get it, I get it. If I don't, I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be ready to take a job somewhere else. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is now going to cap off my experience and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be ready to interview for whatever's next.

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<v Speaker 5>But it worked out, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm you know, luck timing just merged at the right

0:25:11.720 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 2>time and it worked out. But you know, I came

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<v Speaker 2>back with the thought of I'm either going to be

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<v Speaker 2>at Georgia, be the number two or three the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of my career, or hopefully there's an opportunity here somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 3>Since twenty twenty one, the Athletic Director of Georgia. I've

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<v Speaker 3>got to give you a bunch of fun facts here.

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty twenty three Sports Bureau Journal Athletic Director of the

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<v Speaker 3>Year finalist Georgia highest ranking in eighteen years, ranked seventh

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<v Speaker 3>in the lear Field Director's Cup, basically excellence in sports athletics.

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<v Speaker 1>This stat is insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Josh, Georgia has twenty one sports seventeen finished with a

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<v Speaker 3>top twenty ranking and nine ended up in the top

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<v Speaker 3>ten of twenty twenty three. Is that the best stat

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<v Speaker 3>for you? Is that the stat you're most proud of?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know it's it's you can never take

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<v Speaker 2>anything away from a national championship in any sport, and

0:26:10.480 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 2>obviously football is just amazing. But I do take a

0:26:13.560 --> 0:26:14.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of pride and I want to be good in

0:26:14.840 --> 0:26:17.399
<v Speaker 2>every I'm a competitor. I love to compete, and I

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.399
<v Speaker 2>want to be good in every all twenty one sports.

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:21.000
<v Speaker 2>I always make the joke that if we started a

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<v Speaker 2>bad minton team tomorrow, I'd want to have the best

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<v Speaker 2>bad mint team in the country. I just I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>competitor and that's why I love the shop so much.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there's a lot of pride in that because

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<v Speaker 2>especially when you can you can make a change in

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<v Speaker 2>a program, bringing a new coach and see it grow

0:26:35.440 --> 0:26:37.399
<v Speaker 2>like what our soccer program has done the last two years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of fun when you see it. Okay,

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 2>we weren't even making the SEC tournament and then we

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<v Speaker 2>made the insula term that we won the SEC. That's

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<v Speaker 2>just that's really fun and that's one of the big

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<v Speaker 2>pride points for me.

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<v Speaker 3>In addition to football, obviously you just mentioned soccer, volleyball,

0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 3>track and field softball all making huge strides being very successful,

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<v Speaker 3>and you have ten head coaching hires there. Now, what

0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 3>is important for you when you're looking to hire a

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<v Speaker 3>new head coach in any sport?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's different sport to sport because the

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<v Speaker 2>opportunities and challenges are different in every single sport, and

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<v Speaker 2>not to sound cliches, but it's in the world we

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>live in today. I've got to make sure first and

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<v Speaker 2>foremost that I've got someone that I can trust with

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:27.400
<v Speaker 2>my young men and women that were there's too much

0:27:27.440 --> 0:27:29.720
<v Speaker 2>going on in the world that the deal breaker for

0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.919
<v Speaker 2>me is I've got to trust and know that I

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:35.639
<v Speaker 2>can trust that they're going to do right by the

0:27:35.720 --> 0:27:37.879
<v Speaker 2>young men and women. That's where it starts for me.

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Then it's about development and recruiting, and recruiting is a

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 2>big piece for me. You better have a plan, you

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 2>better enjoy recruiting. You got to be really active because

0:27:49.320 --> 0:27:51.919
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 2>good of a coach you are. You better have these

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 2>student athletes and the players. And it's not just about

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 2>their ability, it's about their their mindset, their ability to develop,

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.840
<v Speaker 2>the their they be able to make it here academically.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, so you have your your standard things you're

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:05.240
<v Speaker 5>looking for.

0:28:05.320 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 2>But then it then it comes down to fit and

0:28:06.960 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 2>gut and like when I meet someone, does my gut

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:11.880
<v Speaker 2>tingle when I meet them, because hopefully, if I've narrowed

0:28:11.880 --> 0:28:14.480
<v Speaker 2>it down in three or four they all meet the

0:28:14.480 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>the qualifications I want, and then when I meet them,

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 2>it's gotta I just trust my gut and go, this

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:21.600
<v Speaker 2>is somebody I believe in. This is somebody that I

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>that I want to leave my program.

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<v Speaker 3>God, I love that, Like really good for you, and

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:32.080
<v Speaker 3>obviously it's working out well for you. But I don't

0:28:32.080 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 3>want to get on a soapbox here. But you know,

0:28:33.880 --> 0:28:37.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's so much talk these days in sports

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:41.200
<v Speaker 3>about analytics, and I'm not saying analytics are not important,

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 3>but you also, well you have.

0:28:44.360 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>To let's you have to have a good I've got

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:47.440
<v Speaker 1>a good gut.

0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:53.760
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, but but I love that that and that

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.440
<v Speaker 3>you're and that you're transparent about it, like you've got

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:59.000
<v Speaker 3>to have somebody or you've got to have a feeling

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.560
<v Speaker 3>about this person that's more than just intellectual.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've just been always been a big gut person and

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 2>believe it. And I think, Look, I'll be honest with you.

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I am not super talented. Look I've bet I told

0:29:10.960 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 2>you I was average football player, average athlete. Everybody in

0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 2>my department that leads leads a unit, they do it

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 2>better than I could ever do it. Like my CFO

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I could never be a better CFO than her. My

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>person that runs development, the person runs to every single

0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:29.320
<v Speaker 2>categorical item in this department. They all do it way

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>better than I could ever imagine do it. So I

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>don't have a true talent for any of these things.

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I think my best talent is doing what I'm doing.

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:40.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know to explain that, but and

0:29:40.920 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I just got to go with my gut because at

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, if they make my gut tingle,

0:29:46.600 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>then then hopefully that means they're going to make recruits

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>and others feel the same way, and they'll be able

0:29:50.080 --> 0:29:51.800
<v Speaker 2>to get people here, and they'll get people to buy

0:29:51.800 --> 0:29:54.920
<v Speaker 2>in and believe and know what we're doing. So and look,

0:29:54.920 --> 0:29:56.920
<v Speaker 2>it's not going to be nothing ever is going to

0:29:56.960 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 2>be full proof, and unfortunately in this business, it's a

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 2>mathematical certainty. At some point I'm going to have to

0:30:02.440 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 2>probably fire someone I hired, and that day will be terrible,

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 2>but hopefully not. I really enjoy the people I work with,

0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 2>and obviously the people I've hired I believe in, and

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 2>then I think my part of my responsibility with that

0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>is to give them every resource they need to be

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 2>successful and remove the roadblocks, give them the resources to

0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 2>where they can do what we've brought them here to

0:30:23.360 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 2>do well.

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:29.959
<v Speaker 3>In addition to recruiting, setting a record for fundraising in

0:30:30.160 --> 0:30:35.280
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty three, as well also record breaking academic year

0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty three, setting a new school high mark

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:45.680
<v Speaker 3>for cumulative GPA. I mean, you're on a good run here, Josh.

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 3>And in addition to everything else, let's just say the

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:56.120
<v Speaker 3>highest profile sports, college football, you are the first and

0:30:56.280 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 3>only team to go back to back in the college

0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:02.920
<v Speaker 3>Football Playoff. The last team to go back to back

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:07.120
<v Speaker 3>in an undisputed way was Alabama in twenty eleven and

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 3>twenty twelve. It's been eleven years since that. You have

0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 3>a chance to go for three. What happens on Saturday? Like,

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 3>how are you viewing the game right now? Your comfort level?

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, I think it's going to Like you said,

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:24.200
<v Speaker 2>it's been one of those classic matchups, two really good

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:28.880
<v Speaker 2>football teams, two great coaching staffs. For me, I always

0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 2>say the games are one in the trenches, who controls

0:31:31.040 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>a lot of scrimmage and then and then it could

0:31:34.720 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>come down to a crazy thing happening, a turnover here,

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.720
<v Speaker 2>turnover there. This feels like a game where it's going

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>to be important. The winner of the game is probably

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:47.040
<v Speaker 2>going to win the turnover battle, and unless something crazy

0:31:47.080 --> 0:31:49.880
<v Speaker 2>happens on special teams, I really feel like the turnover

0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 2>battle is going to be the deciding point of this game.

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 2>But you know, this is excitement. It's you know that

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>there's nerves to go into a game like this, but

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.160
<v Speaker 2>it's also excitement because this is why we do it,

0:32:01.200 --> 0:32:03.479
<v Speaker 2>you know, so you can't shy away from these moments.

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>We work, We work to have these opportunities. So you're

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 2>ready to just tee it up and let's let's go,

0:32:08.800 --> 0:32:09.760
<v Speaker 2>and let's see what happens.

0:32:09.800 --> 0:32:13.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, this morning in my car, I was listening

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:19.400
<v Speaker 3>to Greg McElroy, obviously Alabama quarterback, Greg talking very confidently

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 3>about how Alabama matches up against Georgia. Alabama should not matter.

0:32:26.320 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 3>What happened last week at Auburn is maybe the greatest

0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.040
<v Speaker 3>travesty I have ever seen on a football field, because

0:32:34.080 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 3>here's the thing. The kick six that happens, this is

0:32:38.600 --> 0:32:43.680
<v Speaker 3>a crazy, unexpected play. This is this is crazy fourth

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 3>and thirty one when you have everyone back in the

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 3>end zone. This is this is something that should should

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 3>not happen. I said on the record, I know you

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 3>can't say it. Everybody at Auburn gone got goodbye, kick

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:03.560
<v Speaker 3>them out of the conference. You're feeling watching the game last.

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Year at this point in that game, you nothing surprised

0:33:06.640 --> 0:33:09.480
<v Speaker 2>you anymore. It's and I'm gonna tell you Auburn is well,

0:33:09.600 --> 0:33:13.040
<v Speaker 2>it's a crazy place to play where those fans they

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 2>do a great job.

0:33:13.920 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:16.719
<v Speaker 2>What's funny about the SEC is like so you you know,

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.080
<v Speaker 2>after going to LSU and they're working at Monroe and

0:33:19.080 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 2>playing Auburn a bunch and now being at Georgia, Auburn

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 2>has been a team I've played throughout the twenty five

0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:24.760
<v Speaker 2>years of my career all the time, and it's a

0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>team that you you know, it's a rival. You can't

0:33:26.440 --> 0:33:28.560
<v Speaker 2>stand them in the Senate. Then you meet the people

0:33:28.600 --> 0:33:31.120
<v Speaker 2>that work there and you just love They've got some

0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.400
<v Speaker 2>of the great greatest administrators there. Hey d he's a

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:35.720
<v Speaker 2>great guy there. And it's like, I want to hate you, man,

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 2>like y'all are so nice and such good people, like

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.600
<v Speaker 2>you're supposed to hate Auburn. But and that's the same

0:33:39.640 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 2>thing with like Tennessee and Florida to other places like,

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>I want to hate you so much, but there's just

0:33:43.720 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 2>so many good people in this profession that it's funny

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 2>that people don't see the behind the scenes side of

0:33:48.640 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>that of so many good people.

0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:56.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I know you're being nice, but that was just

0:33:56.920 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean you, I like, that's pretty good. Yeah, you know,

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 3>I did hear you. I did hear you in an interview.

0:34:06.040 --> 0:34:09.440
<v Speaker 3>I found this fascinating. You just alluded to it right now.

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:18.120
<v Speaker 3>You talked about how the SEC Athletic directors work.

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.640
<v Speaker 2>Really more, We've done more research than anybody I've ever interview.

0:34:21.680 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 3>This is there that there is a there is a camaraderie,

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 3>there is a you all are helping each other.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>It is this is this is true, very correct.

0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 2>You know, we we're our own little therapy group to

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 2>some degree some points in time when we get together

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.719
<v Speaker 2>because we are some of the only people that know

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.880
<v Speaker 2>what each other are going through, uh, whether we're dealing

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:46.880
<v Speaker 2>with fans or student athletes, or coaches or staff or

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>et cetera. Because it's these chairs can be lonely sometimes

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.680
<v Speaker 2>so being able to talk to the ad at Auburn

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 2>or Florida or Tennessee or whoever and talk through issues

0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 2>and really talk about best practices and we and look,

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 2>we understand that as the SEC goes, we all go.

0:35:02.360 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>The more successful they see is the better we're all

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:05.799
<v Speaker 2>going to be across the ward. So there is a

0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>common interest in our league doing well. And you know,

0:35:09.480 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 2>we want to get as many teams in the playoffs,

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 2>so we want to get as many teams in the instantly

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.319
<v Speaker 2>tournament in baseball and basketball, et cetera. So there's pride there,

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>and there is great camaraderie and I really enjoy We

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>meet in person a few times a year and we

0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:24.239
<v Speaker 2>zoom every couple of weeks and it's a fun group

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 2>and we lean on each other pretty well.

0:35:26.480 --> 0:35:28.879
<v Speaker 3>I love hearing that too, and it and it makes

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot of sense. I have to ask you about

0:35:31.239 --> 0:35:35.840
<v Speaker 3>Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan program and what is alleged

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:41.240
<v Speaker 3>right now is the decision that was made to suspend

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 3>him for three games. Do you think that was the

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:44.560
<v Speaker 3>right decision?

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 5>You know, I don't know.

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 2>We've we I've tended to always stay stay in our

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>own lane and not judge other people, because judge not

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:56.720
<v Speaker 2>unless you be judged.

0:35:56.840 --> 0:36:01.759
<v Speaker 3>But unless we could come right back. I got you right, Yes, No,

0:36:01.800 --> 0:36:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I understand.

0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:06.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I've been in those trenches before, and I've

0:36:06.120 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 2>been on other sides of the table on any situation

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.759
<v Speaker 2>like that, and you never want to judge because you

0:36:11.840 --> 0:36:15.120
<v Speaker 2>know that things can be reported one way and then

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>they're the deep. The facts of a situation may not

0:36:17.760 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>be what's being reported out. So you try to hold

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.480
<v Speaker 2>back judgment in any situation like that because you just

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 2>you don't know what you know. Unless you're there, you

0:36:25.719 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>don't know what the truth is. So I have my

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 2>own challenges every day, so I.

0:36:31.040 --> 0:36:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Tend not to you stand your own lane. Well, here's

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:39.200
<v Speaker 3>the thing that to me is fascinating. Big time college

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 3>sports is a business, and now at this moment where

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:47.120
<v Speaker 3>we sit right now, the only chance for a big team,

0:36:47.400 --> 0:36:50.920
<v Speaker 3>big ten team to get into the college football playoffs.

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Is if it's Michigan.

0:36:52.360 --> 0:36:58.000
<v Speaker 3>And if Michigan doesn't get in, they're costing themselves and

0:36:58.040 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 3>their own institutions a lot of money. So the the

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 3>oversight is all to me very confusing.

0:37:06.400 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 5>That's a good that's an interesting way.

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:10.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, because it's a conflicted feeling of pride

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:13.560
<v Speaker 2>in the conference and revenue opportunities for the conference. So

0:37:14.120 --> 0:37:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I would that'd be interesting to see how they all

0:37:16.120 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 2>feel about watching that Big Ten championship game. But but yeah,

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.120
<v Speaker 2>I know, and look, I know fans were probably some

0:37:22.120 --> 0:37:24.439
<v Speaker 2>would probably scoff at me saying this, But we we do.

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 2>We root, we root for us to see for them

0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:27.959
<v Speaker 2>to do well.

0:37:28.120 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, we do, I think most fans do. I mean,

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:32.160
<v Speaker 1>at a certain it's a.

0:37:32.080 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 5>Point of pride.

0:37:32.680 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 2>It is a point of pridm because you can look

0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 2>back on it and say and say, look at our history,

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 2>Look how well our conference has done the playoffs. And

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 2>that's a good bragging point to say, this is the

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:44.120
<v Speaker 2>conference that has the best track record right in the playoffs.

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:45.719
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's I think that's true.

0:37:45.719 --> 0:37:48.759
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I certainly hear a lot of SEC specifically

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 3>SEC chants from fans at certain games, you know, particularly

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:56.080
<v Speaker 3>when you get into like you know, the NCAA March

0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 3>Madness basketball tournament bracket, Like there's a there's like, well,

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 3>they beat us, and they're better than us this year,

0:38:02.719 --> 0:38:06.520
<v Speaker 3>but them being better makes us better somehow.

0:38:06.560 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>And then and then even when like someone beats an

0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:12.600
<v Speaker 2>SEC team and they tweet or chant, oh, it just

0:38:12.640 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 2>means more like messing with us. It's like well, you're

0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:17.160
<v Speaker 2>actually proving our point when you when you trouble us

0:38:17.160 --> 0:38:19.959
<v Speaker 2>with that, that means that that hashtags work pretty well

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's caught on so you're using it, so obviously

0:38:22.680 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 2>it's pretty pretty strong state, you know.

0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 3>So Yeah, if Georgia does what I hope they do

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 3>and beats Alabama this weekend, it appears all but likely

0:38:50.600 --> 0:38:53.480
<v Speaker 3>that Alabama will not be in the College Football Playoff.

0:38:53.960 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 3>If somehow it's fourth and thirty one.

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm walking out the building. I'm just walking.

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 1>You're just gonna walk out.

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, if somehow Georgia loses, Georgia, should they still be

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 3>uh in the college football Playoff?

0:39:10.160 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, Look, I'm always gonna advocate for our team,

0:39:12.440 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 2>but we're a you know how we're wired here, Uh

0:39:15.239 --> 0:39:17.440
<v Speaker 2>with coach marsh leadership, We're focused on one thing and

0:39:17.440 --> 0:39:19.840
<v Speaker 2>one thing only that's that's winning Saturday. That's got to

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>be the focus because any minute we spent worrying about

0:39:23.239 --> 0:39:25.800
<v Speaker 2>alternative scenarios is a minute wasted. So we've got to

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:29.120
<v Speaker 2>be focused on the task in hand. And uh.

0:39:29.760 --> 0:39:32.359
<v Speaker 3>And then I actually like that because I I've spent

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 3>a lot of time worrying about the others.

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can't. I mean, it's a wasted wasted.

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:38.960
<v Speaker 1>No, you're no, You're right, it is. It is a

0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:40.000
<v Speaker 1>total waste of time.

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.600
<v Speaker 2>I do think there was an important statement that was

0:39:42.640 --> 0:39:44.799
<v Speaker 2>made that I would always fall back to, as this said,

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>it is the best four team. So that's all I

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.200
<v Speaker 2>have four teams, that's all I ask for. However, that dice,

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 2>however that shakes out best four team and the best

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 2>four teams, and if and if everyone in the committee

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:56.680
<v Speaker 2>does that in their art and wherever it falls, it falls.

0:39:56.719 --> 0:39:59.680
<v Speaker 3>But you know, you know, you know who's the smartest

0:39:59.719 --> 0:40:02.440
<v Speaker 3>about that about picking the best four teams?

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Vegas, Vegas. Just go to Vegas.

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:09.320
<v Speaker 5>They've got they've got true motives to pick the right.

0:40:09.200 --> 0:40:11.000
<v Speaker 1>For well yeah, exactly.

0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 3>Uh basketball team, A highly touted new recruit coming to Georgia.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Talk to me a little bit about in il good.

0:40:24.719 --> 0:40:27.800
<v Speaker 2>I think there's good and bad, right, I think it's here.

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:31.560
<v Speaker 2>We I'm a I'm an optimist. I focus on the

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:34.760
<v Speaker 2>positives of it. The positives of it are student athletes

0:40:34.800 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 2>now have the ability to make money off their name, image, likeness,

0:40:38.160 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 2>which is great because you know, you see a guy

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.799
<v Speaker 2>like last year, like stets invented and others are now

0:40:45.040 --> 0:40:46.719
<v Speaker 2>other young men on the team and women we have

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:48.920
<v Speaker 2>in other sports who have an opportunity to go do

0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 2>ads and commercials to help some that can just put

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:53.480
<v Speaker 2>money away from the future, some that can help their

0:40:53.480 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>family right now in need. And that's a great thing

0:40:56.120 --> 0:40:59.759
<v Speaker 2>that because there were some really silly restrictions before, like

0:40:59.800 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 2>what not let a kid if a kid wants to

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 2>get a local tire dealership to sponsor and why you know,

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:07.960
<v Speaker 2>so that's open some really good avenues for kids can

0:41:08.000 --> 0:41:09.879
<v Speaker 2>make money, and I think that it's helping some kids

0:41:09.920 --> 0:41:11.719
<v Speaker 2>decide to stay in school for another year.

0:41:12.120 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 5>Now.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:17.120
<v Speaker 2>The bad side of that is tampering and inducements trying

0:41:17.120 --> 0:41:20.360
<v Speaker 2>to get people to transfer. We've experienced the firsthand. And

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.520
<v Speaker 2>people always think it's just football and basketball. It's it's

0:41:23.640 --> 0:41:26.479
<v Speaker 2>widespread across many sports. So you know, there's some bad

0:41:26.520 --> 0:41:30.880
<v Speaker 2>parts to it that hopefully through congressional work and through

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.719
<v Speaker 2>the work we're doing with INSUBLA. I serve on one

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 2>of the NIL subcommittees in Stable A. I'm actually going

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:39.360
<v Speaker 2>to Indianapolis in December for a meeting that we're trying

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 2>to put some guardrails around some of these around collectives

0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 2>and trying to make sense of it.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:45.360
<v Speaker 5>It's not easy.

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>I promise to that people that are far smarter than

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>I that have tried to work through how these guardrails

0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:52.799
<v Speaker 2>will work. And there's some anti trust issues and other things.

0:41:52.800 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 2>But you know, with any of that, I think there's

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:56.520
<v Speaker 2>good and bad. I'm optimist. I focus on the positives

0:41:56.520 --> 0:41:59.080
<v Speaker 2>of it, and I think it's here to stay in

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 2>some form or fashion. Just have to keep it evolving

0:42:01.160 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and doing the best our best with it to make it,

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to make it the best it can be.

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's kind of my question, Like we're not done

0:42:08.480 --> 0:42:09.440
<v Speaker 3>with the current system.

0:42:09.680 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>You think we're still gonna No.

0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a yeah, it's a current evolution, and

0:42:15.040 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 2>hopefully through that we're learning and finding better practices and ways.

0:42:18.440 --> 0:42:19.000
<v Speaker 5>That we can.

0:42:19.480 --> 0:42:21.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, we want the nil, We want the opportunities

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>to athletes. What we want to do is put guardrails

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to eliminate the tampering and inducement portion of it, because

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>what we don't want is what I don't want is

0:42:28.600 --> 0:42:30.680
<v Speaker 2>anyone using as inducement for a reason to go to

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:32.640
<v Speaker 2>a school. Now you go to school, you have success,

0:42:32.800 --> 0:42:35.239
<v Speaker 2>then the world's your oyster. Go you know, and we

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 2>will help you within the rules. Every way we can

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:40.640
<v Speaker 2>provide anil opportunities for you, make connections with you. We

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 2>have we work in partnership with the Classic City Collective

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.839
<v Speaker 2>here in Athos. It does a phenomenal job and they

0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 2>do a great job of finding the big deals, the

0:42:48.080 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 2>small deals and everything in between. But I don't like

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.319
<v Speaker 2>it as an inducement. I think you should choose your

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.360
<v Speaker 2>college destination best based on the other reasons, the education,

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>the coach you believe in, that's the place you want

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>to live, and all those things. And then then I

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:06.160
<v Speaker 2>al should be a bonus part of it, not the reason,

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:10.800
<v Speaker 2>because you know, you know this money comes to money goes,

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but your experiences and all that the four years you

0:43:13.480 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>have here every way more important than any money you

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 2>can make in your early ages, you know.

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, look, I absolutely think that these student

0:43:22.160 --> 0:43:24.479
<v Speaker 3>athletes should have the opportunity to do those things. I think,

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 3>particularly as a fan viewing this from the outside is

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:33.080
<v Speaker 3>sort of the combination of the NIL and you know

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:34.919
<v Speaker 3>the other thing that's been around for a long time.

0:43:34.920 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 3>It's just getting talked about much more now, which is

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:41.880
<v Speaker 3>the transfer portal. And so now what it feels like,

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.840
<v Speaker 3>is there's a free flowing market in between schools where

0:43:47.160 --> 0:43:50.160
<v Speaker 3>people are getting induced to go to different schools, and

0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:56.920
<v Speaker 3>this it just becomes it becomes difficult to root for

0:43:56.960 --> 0:43:58.760
<v Speaker 3>the players. And I think that's the thing about college

0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:02.560
<v Speaker 3>sports is, you know, much more than professional sports.

0:44:02.560 --> 0:44:04.320
<v Speaker 1>It's about this. It's about the institution.

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:07.360
<v Speaker 3>You're rooting for the school, but you obviously want the

0:44:07.400 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 3>players to be a part of that. And you know,

0:44:09.920 --> 0:44:13.760
<v Speaker 3>how do you feel you know, what is your feeling

0:44:13.760 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 3>about about the transport portal and how that's sort of working.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 3>It feels like in connection with the NIL right now.

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I think even though a student may want up somewhere

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 2>and get an NIL deal after they get there or

0:44:26.800 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 2>whatever may be, you know, it still comes down to

0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 2>when you start playing with a group of guys or

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:35.319
<v Speaker 2>gals and you're on a common mission, you forget about

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.200
<v Speaker 2>all the NIL stuff and you want to go play

0:44:37.239 --> 0:44:39.520
<v Speaker 2>and win. How you know, we're talking about five hundred

0:44:39.520 --> 0:44:42.480
<v Speaker 2>and fifty plus todent athletes who are driven to compete

0:44:42.520 --> 0:44:45.120
<v Speaker 2>and win. And yeah, the N I was a part,

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:47.880
<v Speaker 2>but I can'tarantine you in the cultures we try to

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:50.400
<v Speaker 2>build here, it's about the team first and if you

0:44:50.440 --> 0:44:52.400
<v Speaker 2>can go out and get this opportunities, great, But when

0:44:52.080 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 2>we suit it up, we're between the lines or on

0:44:54.239 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 2>the court or the field. That's the biggest thing right there,

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 2>is being a good teammate and trying to compete and win.

0:45:00.440 --> 0:45:02.560
<v Speaker 2>You're not thinking about an NL deal.

0:45:03.080 --> 0:45:03.920
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, game, you know.

0:45:04.160 --> 0:45:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's a tricky thing.

0:45:06.239 --> 0:45:10.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean your you you mentioned specifically kids having that

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.359
<v Speaker 3>connection to someone that you hired, a coach that they

0:45:13.400 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 3>feel like is you know, is going to best prepare

0:45:16.239 --> 0:45:18.880
<v Speaker 3>them either in their sport or in their life.

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and that's one of the big things our baseball

0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.480
<v Speaker 2>coach Wes Johnson and n Kirby and Mike White and

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:25.719
<v Speaker 2>coach a lot of our coach you talk about it's

0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.560
<v Speaker 2>you got to believe in us that we're going to

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 2>suit you up better for life. So we don't think

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:33.880
<v Speaker 2>about the short term benefits now because West Johnson baseball

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:35.880
<v Speaker 2>coach talks by all the time. You go to school

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.080
<v Speaker 2>and get fifty grand, one hundred grand for one year,

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:39.799
<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to try to get you in the

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:43.919
<v Speaker 2>first second round of the baseball Draft, which will lead

0:45:43.920 --> 0:45:45.719
<v Speaker 2>to a much bigger deal. So you've got to see

0:45:45.719 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 2>the big picture, and that's why development is such a

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 2>big piece of this and that that's one of the

0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:52.239
<v Speaker 2>reasons that excited me about Wes and bringing him here

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.200
<v Speaker 2>coach our baseball team is because the work he did

0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:57.560
<v Speaker 2>with Paul Skeens at LSU and other guys and showing

0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:01.320
<v Speaker 2>that hey, you come here. You may not get a

0:46:01.360 --> 0:46:04.440
<v Speaker 2>figure and il deal to come here, but you work here, develop,

0:46:04.480 --> 0:46:06.200
<v Speaker 2>We're going to lead you into a better situation than

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:07.080
<v Speaker 2>the draft down the road.

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:07.959
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

0:46:08.239 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 3>It feels as though right now with the athletic prowess

0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.040
<v Speaker 3>dominance I don't know that George is having right now,

0:46:16.320 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 3>you're not feeling the same pressure in situation. But obviously

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.840
<v Speaker 3>coach Elco just committed to go to Texas A and

0:46:24.000 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 3>M and shocker alert the next day they're fantastic quarterback

0:46:31.040 --> 0:46:34.280
<v Speaker 3>Leonard enters a transfer Porthal. So now here's a situation

0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.759
<v Speaker 3>where let's just assume what I don't know, which is

0:46:37.800 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 3>that he chose to go to do because of the coach.

0:46:40.120 --> 0:46:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Now the coach is leaving.

0:46:41.640 --> 0:46:44.040
<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about a situation where if you

0:46:44.120 --> 0:46:47.160
<v Speaker 3>have a kid who's bought into a coach, a situation

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:51.080
<v Speaker 3>wanting to be with that coach and then the coach leaves.

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:53.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we've had that. I had a coach leave.

0:46:53.719 --> 0:46:55.799
<v Speaker 2>I won't name the sport, but a couple of years

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 2>ago I had a coach leave, and then two or

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.279
<v Speaker 2>three days later, I had two or three of the

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 2>kids asked on the portal, A couple followed them to

0:47:04.800 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 2>their new school, and you know, one, one or two

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:11.920
<v Speaker 2>more went to different schools, and at that point, you

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 2>and that's why I'm kind of okay with the one

0:47:14.600 --> 0:47:17.279
<v Speaker 2>time transfer, because I think in life, people could be

0:47:17.520 --> 0:47:19.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, hey, I want to go back home, or

0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:22.920
<v Speaker 2>there's another reason, right. I don't like the multiple transfers,

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:26.799
<v Speaker 2>But at that point, those kids, you know, they don't

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:28.960
<v Speaker 2>they don't owe us, they don't owe me anything. They

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:32.160
<v Speaker 2>if you know, they came here under one thought and

0:47:32.200 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a coach is leaving. I don't begrudge them that. And

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to hold anybody hostage here. And if

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:38.880
<v Speaker 2>they want to go somewhere else, then so be it,

0:47:38.920 --> 0:47:40.759
<v Speaker 2>and we'll find someone else that wants to be here,

0:47:40.800 --> 0:47:43.120
<v Speaker 2>because I don't want whether we're talking about a student

0:47:43.120 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 2>athlete to staff and or coach, whatever it is, I

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:47.919
<v Speaker 2>don't want anybody here that doesn't want to be here.

0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 2>This is a phenomenal place, and I say that as

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:53.399
<v Speaker 2>humbly as I can. But George is awesome. And if

0:47:53.440 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 2>if you're not bought in, and then we're not going

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 2>to beg you to believe in something that you don't

0:47:57.960 --> 0:48:00.399
<v Speaker 2>believe in. So if it's not in the card for you,

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 2>and again I say this politely as again will there

0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:05.879
<v Speaker 2>are other young men and women and other staf people

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 2>that want to be here, and we'll go recruit them

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 2>to be here in your place.

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 3>No, I get it. I mean that makes again, that

0:48:14.440 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 3>makes tons of sense to me. You want to you

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:20.760
<v Speaker 3>want you want student athletes who are as excited about

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 3>the place where you are as most of the people are.

0:48:24.080 --> 0:48:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Because this is hard these Being a student athlete is

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.120
<v Speaker 2>not easy. Being a staff member in athletic person easy.

0:48:29.120 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Being a coach it's not easy. So you've got to

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 2>make sure that everything in your life is aligned and

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:35.719
<v Speaker 2>you want to be here. And if you came under

0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 2>one coaching style and whatever else you or you just

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 2>feel like I don't want this change. I want to

0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:41.040
<v Speaker 2>see and so be it.

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:47.120
<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, college football playoff expanding next season?

0:48:47.560 --> 0:48:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Is that good? You know?

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 2>I think again, I'm talking out of both sides of

0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>my mouth. It's good and you know there's good and

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 2>they're bad to it. I think I saw a good

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>point about how you know, that Michigan Ohio State game,

0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:00.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, it felt really big because it felt like

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the winner had a chance to be in the loser

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:05.719
<v Speaker 2>would not. And now if you fast forward to next

0:49:05.800 --> 0:49:08.319
<v Speaker 2>year that same game eleven and zero versus eleven oh

0:49:08.640 --> 0:49:10.680
<v Speaker 2>if like both teams are getting in, they're just playing

0:49:10.719 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 2>for potentially a buye. So those big, big games won't

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 2>feel quite so intense. But go pass one through six,

0:49:19.640 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 2>seven through eighteen, seventh through nineteen sevent through twenty, there's

0:49:22.840 --> 0:49:24.719
<v Speaker 2>gonna be more games that are gonna be more impactful.

0:49:24.719 --> 0:49:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Where now, if if eight versus fifteen are playing people

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.319
<v Speaker 2>like ah, it doesn't really matter much. They're not getting

0:49:31.360 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>the top four. Where now there'll be more of those

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:37.360
<v Speaker 2>matchups across the board that people are fighting for spot ten, eleven, twelve.

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:39.120
<v Speaker 5>So I think it's.

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 2>Better for more for more schools to be in that mix.

0:49:43.160 --> 0:49:45.320
<v Speaker 2>And it's gonna be interesting to see the logistics of

0:49:45.400 --> 0:49:48.000
<v Speaker 2>how it's gonna work with the you know, five through

0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:49.960
<v Speaker 2>twelve playing and then you know, go to the quarter

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 2>or some So there's a lot of to work through that.

0:49:52.360 --> 0:49:55.319
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be new but exciting nonetheless, and it'll be

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:56.120
<v Speaker 2>here next year, so.

0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:59.360
<v Speaker 5>We will we will see soon enough.

0:50:01.320 --> 0:50:02.760
<v Speaker 1>How do you think it affects the SEC?

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, look, I'm again, I'm an SEC homer, So

0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:08.239
<v Speaker 2>it affects us because we're trying to We're all gonna

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 2>be in favor of trying to get as many SEC

0:50:09.800 --> 0:50:12.879
<v Speaker 2>teams and those slots as possible. Interesting to look at

0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the rankings right now and how many teams, especially when

0:50:16.480 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 2>you look at the future SEC with Texas and Oklahoma,

0:50:19.520 --> 0:50:21.560
<v Speaker 2>we we're you know, we've got a lot of teams

0:50:21.640 --> 0:50:24.720
<v Speaker 2>that mix to be fighting for those top theoretical eleven

0:50:24.800 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 2>spots because twelve could be absorbed by the fifth conference champion.

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 2>You're fighting for those top eleven spots. So hopefully, you know,

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.160
<v Speaker 2>the goal for US is set up a schedule, set

0:50:34.200 --> 0:50:36.160
<v Speaker 2>up per formats can help us get as many teams

0:50:36.160 --> 0:50:37.040
<v Speaker 2>in there as possible.

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, what's your favorite office episode?

0:50:40.520 --> 0:50:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, that sounds like picking your favorite kid. That's

0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:50.600
<v Speaker 2>oh god, you know you gotta go for me, goly,

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.359
<v Speaker 2>you know, I got to go back to the first

0:50:53.360 --> 0:50:58.400
<v Speaker 2>season where it was really edgy. The Human Resources Day episode,

0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:02.520
<v Speaker 2>it was just thanks, Yes, you couldn't do like.

0:51:02.640 --> 0:51:03.960
<v Speaker 5>Things you watch Diversity Day.

0:51:04.040 --> 0:51:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that you couldn't get away with those things today,

0:51:07.200 --> 0:51:09.919
<v Speaker 2>and it was so great. But I did you did

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:11.919
<v Speaker 2>your prep for this? I did my prep as well,

0:51:11.920 --> 0:51:16.160
<v Speaker 2>and I did my five favorite Kevin lines all time,

0:51:17.360 --> 0:51:20.279
<v Speaker 2>and I try to go not too obvious, right because

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:23.240
<v Speaker 2>everybody will points to the chili scene or else. So okay,

0:51:23.400 --> 0:51:25.400
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do top five, but I had to

0:51:25.400 --> 0:51:27.120
<v Speaker 2>do a runner up that didn't make it cut. It

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:29.759
<v Speaker 2>was right there, so the runner up. This is what

0:51:29.880 --> 0:51:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I use all the time. Anytime you have ten thousand

0:51:32.480 --> 0:51:33.960
<v Speaker 2>and one os you always take it.

0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Always take it.

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>Because if John Mellencamp ever wins an oscar, I amn't

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 2>going to be a very rich dude.

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 5>So I've been tracking that.

0:51:41.160 --> 0:51:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, if John, I'm just thinking, at some point

0:51:43.480 --> 0:51:45.839
<v Speaker 2>John Mellencamp is going to be an indie movie that's

0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna win, and it's gonna be like The Simpsons projecting

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.480
<v Speaker 2>the future. The Office knew the whole time that Mellencamp

0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:52.680
<v Speaker 2>was gonna do something like that.

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 5>So that was a runner up.

0:51:53.760 --> 0:51:56.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's a runner up. That's like, uh, that's like

0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 3>Auburn last weekend. You gotta take you gotta take those on.

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Bet. So number five is the CPR scene call it.

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.840
<v Speaker 2>That's that's a classic number four. I thought Roger Ganda

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:13.600
<v Speaker 2>was a boy's name.

0:52:14.160 --> 0:52:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's an obscure one. Okay, it's very good. Uh,

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:21.759
<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you a little. I'll tell you give you

0:52:21.800 --> 0:52:25.360
<v Speaker 3>a little about that Roger and Ganda. I have had

0:52:25.560 --> 0:52:29.439
<v Speaker 3>people ask me to write that quote. I get when

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 3>people have asked me to write quote and it inevitably

0:52:33.880 --> 0:52:36.800
<v Speaker 3>turns into a three to four minute Google session me

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.640
<v Speaker 3>trying to figure out how to spell it because I

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:40.840
<v Speaker 3>don't I don't remember.

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Well, yes, yeah, that's a good that that's a good Uh.

0:52:44.239 --> 0:52:46.960
<v Speaker 2>I bet Clark Williams my buddy. I bet he knows

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:50.680
<v Speaker 2>how to I guarantee you number three, Oscar. I'm now

0:52:50.719 --> 0:52:51.680
<v Speaker 2>prone to surges.

0:52:52.239 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 1>Yes, there you go.

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:56.800
<v Speaker 2>That's a good number two, as has Kevin.

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:58.920
<v Speaker 5>Pause, and then.

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>She goes to enough school, Yes, there you go.

0:53:02.520 --> 0:53:05.319
<v Speaker 2>And then my number one, which I think now I'm

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.000
<v Speaker 2>starting to blend what was in it wasn't in because

0:53:08.000 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 2>this was a I think this was an eleited scene.

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.919
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I know where you're going.

0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:14.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you can ask me directly if she wants a brother?

0:53:14.840 --> 0:53:16.120
<v Speaker 5>Is that right? Don't quote that right?

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:19.319
<v Speaker 4>That line that was?

0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:21.680
<v Speaker 2>How was that line cut?

0:53:21.960 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>That was? I know, I know the way you delivered

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:28.200
<v Speaker 1>it too. Thank you.

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:31.600
<v Speaker 2>I love the Clark and I always go on these

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.560
<v Speaker 2>deep subreddit tweet thought you know like these form whole

0:53:35.080 --> 0:53:38.160
<v Speaker 2>you know about? Was Kevin secretly a genius the whole time?

0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Is my favorite theory, like he was just screwed with

0:53:40.280 --> 0:53:42.239
<v Speaker 2>everybody the whole time to get out of work and

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:43.399
<v Speaker 2>just skate by.

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:46.759
<v Speaker 3>I love that, I've I've I have been asked about

0:53:46.760 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 3>that a lot. Unfortunately, I don't I don't think it's true.

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:50.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

0:53:50.440 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think. I don't take fun, don't. It's fun

0:53:53.239 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 3>to think about, but I don't think it's true.

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:56.320
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:53:56.840 --> 0:54:02.360
<v Speaker 3>The last time in college football all back to back

0:54:02.440 --> 0:54:05.680
<v Speaker 3>to back three in a row eighty seven years ago.

0:54:06.440 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 3>Minnesota did it in nineteen thirty four to nineteen thirty six.

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Is it going to happen this year? You know?

0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.640
<v Speaker 5>I again, I don't know.

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I just I've kept the attitude the whole time of

0:54:21.800 --> 0:54:26.400
<v Speaker 2>never prognosticating, predicting, just taking one time because people messed

0:54:26.400 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 2>with me. I mean the number one question I got.

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<v Speaker 2>We won a Nation championship my first year's ad, and

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<v Speaker 2>people kept screwing me the whole time. You won a

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<v Speaker 2>NASH championship my first year, What are you going to

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<v Speaker 2>do after that? And I was like, I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just retiring after that. And then we then we somehow

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<v Speaker 2>pulled off a second. But now I'm just like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I just literally count my blessings and just appreciate it

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, all the people here that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Kirby and other people. We obviously get credit or thanks

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<v Speaker 2>for it that you know so many people and these

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<v Speaker 2>student athletes. It's been a special ride and you never

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<v Speaker 2>want to take one moment of it for granted.

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<v Speaker 5>But it has been a fun ride.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me let me tell you you're a good guy.

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<v Speaker 3>The people around you, everyone that I've met has been fantastic. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so fun And I don't know, maybe this is

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<v Speaker 3>just my perception, but I feel like, uh, at least

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<v Speaker 3>right now, it may change depending on what happens this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But you got a lot of people who are rooting.

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<v Speaker 3>For Georgia over the the evil Empire across state lines.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll we'll see if that if that goodwill holds up,

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<v Speaker 3>or hopefully we.

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<v Speaker 2>Meet like all the office fans behind us, or you know.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right exactly just for this, for this one uh,

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<v Speaker 3>for this one game, for these two.

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<v Speaker 1>I maybe I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love Greg Byrne, but I would challenge Greg Burn to

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<v Speaker 2>an office quote, you know, any contest office trivia.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll have to ask them what is trivia knowledge?

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe that's maybe, maybe that's maybe that's the next thing

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<v Speaker 3>is we get you and the athletic director at Alabama

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<v Speaker 3>to do an office trivia contest. We'll see, we'll see

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<v Speaker 3>what happens. Josh, thank you so much for joining me.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you for your candor your insight. When you're listening

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<v Speaker 3>to this, the game's already happened. I know you've got

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<v Speaker 3>a busy weekend, which is why we're recording it today.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great, great weekend.

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<v Speaker 3>And best of luck in not just football, but the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of.

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<v Speaker 1>Your twenty one sports the rest of the year.

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<v Speaker 5>Appreciate it. Go Dogs, Go Dogs.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks Josh, Josh.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for coming on. I know you're busy.

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<v Speaker 3>Good luck the rest of the year and go dogs, sick'em.

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<v Speaker 1>Woof, woof, woof. Yep, that's what we say. Thanks for listening, listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>You're gonna find me here again next week with a

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<v Speaker 3>very very special guest.

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<v Speaker 1>How can I tease this one? If you were alive

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<v Speaker 1>in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Eighties in the nineties, you're you're a fan of this guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I promise, so we'll.

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