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Speaker 1: What's your favorite Office episode?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, that sounds like picking your favorite kid. That's

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Speaker 2: I am Josh Brooks, the Jay Reed Parker, director Athletics

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Speaker 2: at the University of Georgia and Office super fan.

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Speaker 1: Hi there, everybody, We're back. You're back. We're all here.

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Speaker 3: This is Off the Beat, and I am your host,

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Speaker 3: Brian Baumgartner. I'm so stoked for our guest today. He's

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Speaker 3: a pretty big deal to me, and he should be

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Speaker 3: to anyone who loves college sports. Josh Brooks happens to

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Speaker 3: be the athletic director of my childhood love, the University

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Speaker 3: of Georgia Bulldogs, and over the last three years, he

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Speaker 3: has helped lead their athletic program to unprecedented heights in softball, volleyball, soccer,

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Speaker 3: track and field, and of course their football team back

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Speaker 3: to back national championships the last two years and one

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Speaker 3: more if I have my way this year, go Dogs.

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Speaker 3: In this conversation, you're going to hear how I met Josh.

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Speaker 3: Let's just say it was a viral moment. To be sure,

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Speaker 3: Josh is a fan of the Office, So yes, we're

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Speaker 3: going to talk a little Office today. But now the

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Speaker 3: truth is, I'm about as big a fan of his

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Speaker 3: work as he is of mine. He's just about the

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Speaker 3: best in the business in college athletics.

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Speaker 1: He's up for awards.

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Speaker 3: But here's the thing, he's even nicer than he is accomplished.

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Speaker 3: So I can't wait for you to get to know him.

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Speaker 3: Today he talks frankly about a multitude of topics, ripping

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Speaker 3: through the headlines of college sports, controversy at Michigan, pressures

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Speaker 3: of nil, and of course the transfer portal. You're not

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Speaker 3: gonna want to miss this. And Josh, guess what, I'm

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Speaker 3: going to release this to the public, just like you

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Speaker 3: sent us viral a few years ago. Yeah, this thing

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Speaker 3: right here, this is going to be on the intranet.

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Speaker 3: Here he is my buddy, Josh Brooks.

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Speaker 1: Bubble and squeak. I love it, bubble and squeak on

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Speaker 1: bubble and squeak, I could.

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Speaker 2: Get every mole lift over from the nine.

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Speaker 4: Before Go Dogs, Go Dogs.

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Speaker 5: Got the hat on, love.

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Speaker 3: It Go Dogs. Of course I have the hat on.

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Speaker 3: I'm excited. I'm ready to go. How you doing, I'm great.

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Speaker 2: We're what forty nine hours await and kick off.

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Speaker 3: Forty nine hours as we're recording this podcast from the

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Speaker 3: SEC championship game. I'm so excited about this game. I

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Speaker 3: think it's going to be the proverbial game of the

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Speaker 3: century that happens every year.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling about it?

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm always I'm nervous, but I'm I'm nervous

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Speaker 2: for every game, whether it's a we have a women's

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Speaker 2: basketball game tonight or men's basketball game last night. I'm

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Speaker 2: I live in a state of nervousness for every game.

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Speaker 2: But thankfully I don't have to do anything but just

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Speaker 2: show up.

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Speaker 1: So how many games do you go to over the

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Speaker 1: course of a week. Are you going to awake game?

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Speaker 2: I never miss a football away game. I tried to

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Speaker 2: make a few away games of other sports if I can,

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Speaker 2: when the travel works out. If it's instabl a tournament,

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Speaker 2: I try to go so but there's a conflict, Like

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Speaker 2: our volleyball team is playing in Provo, Utah tomorrow night,

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Speaker 2: but that game is six thirty Eastern time in Utah

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Speaker 2: and there's no way I can make it back.

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Speaker 5: So I won't make that.

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Speaker 2: But last year we were playing in Austin, Texas volleyball

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Speaker 2: and I went to blab blah match front in Texas,

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Speaker 2: flew back, got into Atlanta, you know, two o'clock in

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Speaker 2: So I'll try to get you know, it's a lot

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Speaker 2: of travel, you know, just this week alone. Men were

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Speaker 2: on the road. Last night in Florida State women played

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Speaker 2: then football Saturday. So it's twenty one sports. It's NonStop.

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Speaker 2: But it's fun, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean it sounds very fun. It sounds like a

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Speaker 3: good job to me. But yes, being on the road

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Speaker 3: that much is a lot. I learned a lot about you,

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Speaker 3: and I mean I knew about you, but I've learned

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Speaker 3: a lot about you in preparing to talk to you.

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Speaker 3: It's fascinating stuff. First off, I want to I want

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Speaker 3: to mention how we got connected, you and you and

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Speaker 3: I take us through the because we haven't fully talked

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Speaker 3: about it. I don't know exactly how it happened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was when you got the position as

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Speaker 1: the athletic director of Georgia. Tell me what happened.

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Speaker 5: So it all starts.

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Speaker 2: I've got a good group of buddies Clark, Will Brad

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Speaker 2: and Tanner. We have a group text, and it's one

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Speaker 2: of those group texts that's been going on for ten

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Speaker 2: memes or this and that, where you know, it's NonStop

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Speaker 2: this and that, and Clark is Clark and I debate

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Speaker 2: over who's the bigger Office fan. We even had a

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Speaker 2: bet at the end of the series that he thought

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Speaker 2: Jim and Pam were going to break up and he

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Speaker 2: I'm more of an optimist and Clark's more of a realistic.

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Speaker 2: Clark's like, they're going to break He was so set

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Speaker 2: that they were going to break up that he saw

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Speaker 2: it coming. So we've been Office diehearts a long as time.

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Speaker 2: We knew you had a connection to Georgia, and so

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Speaker 2: Clark being the diehard fan he was. The day that

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Speaker 2: I got the eight job, he did the cameo with

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Speaker 2: you Yeah, and he shows up at my house. He's

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Speaker 2: and he's just like, hey, I need to show you something. Now.

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Speaker 5: I'm thinking, oh god, three days in the job, there's

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Speaker 5: a problem. What's wrong.

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Speaker 2: He's like, I got to show you this, and he

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Speaker 2: goes he connects my TV with his phone and he

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Speaker 2: streams it and you pop up and I was like,

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Speaker 2: oh my god, this is the creazy And then and

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Speaker 2: then you went above and beyond, which was great because

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Speaker 2: it wasn't just a normal like you just you. You

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Speaker 2: made it so much better and it was And then

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Speaker 2: I think I posted it or shared it. Yes, and

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Speaker 2: then it went viral, and I wonder if he's even

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Speaker 3: It went, it went viral, So from my perspective, you know,

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Speaker 3: I get requests to send people messages and I saw

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Speaker 1: Here's the new guy.

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Speaker 3: And I think I went crazy and said a bunch

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Speaker 3: of go dogs type things. Of course, the wolf wolf.

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Speaker 3: I don't think much about it. And then suddenly Yahoo

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Speaker 1: It was really fun. It was.

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Speaker 2: And that's funny because sometimes in our world we think

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Speaker 3: You made sure, No, you made sure that I was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got me some cool points. But people were like,

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Speaker 2: how did you pull that off? Like, well, Clark, it

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, Well we'll talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 3: the office in a bit. You grew up in Louisiana, Hammond, Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: I understand you played high school football. What position did

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Speaker 5: Linebacker?

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Speaker 1: You were a linebacker?

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Speaker 1: Were you tough or no?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's probably the only attribute you could give me

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Speaker 5: I could. I will claim that, not fast, not.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, slow and sough. I would I would make the tackle.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't pretty right. My coach would often yell at

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Speaker 5: But very average.

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Speaker 3: Okay, And now I don't know if these things normally

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Speaker 3: I know? So you played a high school football and

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Speaker 3: then you also threw the javelin.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a random one.

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Speaker 2: That was one that my older brother's friend threw it

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Speaker 2: But what happened was in high school, the coach knew

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Speaker 2: Say hey, Josh, teach this kid how to throw, And

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Speaker 3: When was the last time you threw a javelin? Do

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Speaker 2: Well, my son he wants to be at the athlete.

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Speaker 5: And I showed up in a tie, slacks and dress shoes.

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Speaker 5: And to throw it.

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Speaker 2: It was that became that video off the texta to you.

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Speaker 2: It became a little viral because it just looks so funny.

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Speaker 2: Some guy barefooted in a tie slinging a javelin.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what, that reminds me of another guy

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Speaker 3: in a sport coat and a tie and dress shoes

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Speaker 3: shooting hoops.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah. That No one saw.

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Speaker 1: Come that's with that, and no one saw.

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Speaker 2: I watched that episode, uh just the two days ago.

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Speaker 2: Thanks a matter of fact, if.

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Speaker 3: You need somebody to come and teach your guys and

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Speaker 3: gals there how to shoot.

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Speaker 5: Shoot for throws if nothing else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it's by the way, that's fifteen that's

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Speaker 3: arc around that I was hitting. And that was one take.

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Speaker 3: Josh really and no edits on the DVD. There's thirteen

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Speaker 3: in a row. They are you serious? Greg Daniels called

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Speaker 3: me and said, I'm really sorry. We couldn't use six

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Speaker 2: And look, people thought I was crazy, but they I

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Speaker 5: I think you have a career path in this and

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Speaker 5: I didn't see it.

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Speaker 3: Well, by the way you just rolled through some names,

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Speaker 1: Say it was a this is the tree. I mean

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was insanity to think to be in just

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Speaker 2: What a great experience at twenty one years old to

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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, you end up going to Louisiana Monroe.

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Speaker 3: But I got to ask you a question. If LSU

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I like to be a public about it because it's

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Speaker 2: no disrespect to LSU. It's a great place, great people. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: And then I've been at Georgia now fourteen years my

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Speaker 5: And it's no, and I don't mean.

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Speaker 3: That that's where you want to spend the rest of your life. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean you're on the record right now.

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Speaker 3: I do have to ask you about your time. I

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Speaker 3: I read the story that the budget was very low

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Speaker 2: True or false, That is true. That's that's some good

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Speaker 3: We've got a cracked team here. Gosh, we didn't have.

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Speaker 1: No, that's this.

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Speaker 2: And we didn't have a lot of money back then

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Speaker 2: So me and the student systems would make sandwiches NonStop,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it's just like yesterday for you, but but it's

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Speaker 3: play a game in Tuscaloosa. And now this is Saban's

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Speaker 1: Were you there?

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Speaker 2: I was for bops there. Yeah, I was there.

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Speaker 5: I was on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: Is that where your hatred for Alabama started? Not hatred

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Speaker 1: Is that?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 3: And Saban is there and you had worked under him

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Speaker 2: That was special for me honestly, because you know, I

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Speaker 2: I was interviewed for a job. The one thing I

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Speaker 2: They won a national championship the next year while I

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Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know it's you. You

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Speaker 2: Thankful for coach Saban and everything else, for I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: I always loved to give Kirby a hard time about

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Speaker 2: So whenever he makes a jab at me, I always

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Speaker 2: But the funny thing about that story, and this is

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Speaker 2: So when you're a school like Louisiana Monroe and you

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Speaker 2: good luck and conference. It's kind of a way of

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Speaker 2: saying like, yeah, we beat you, but we're gonna hope

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Speaker 2: you'll do all in your conference. One of our coaches

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Speaker 3: Oh that's so good.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't take one thing I've learned in

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Speaker 2: this like I don't take victory laps. I don't do.

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Speaker 2: You know, I've always tried to and all victories stay

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Speaker 2: and when you come up that end, you've been on it.

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Speaker 2: I've been on both sides of it. So I've learned

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I was like just hugging them and giving

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Speaker 2: I've never before I celebrate. I try to at least be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, glad, you're a nice guy.

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Speaker 2: I am a nice I've tried to be at least.

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Speaker 1: Briefly.

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Speaker 3: You go to Georgia twenty eight to fourteen for the

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Speaker 2: And I think so that was in like twelve through fourteen,

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Speaker 5: I got to study for this mid.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where she's going to heaven for sure she's the

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Speaker 2: any reason that someone couldn't interview me God or any reason.

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Speaker 2: But you know, so I went into it with the

442
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Speaker 2: mindset of I need to check this box. But actually

443
00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,840
Speaker 2: I went to grad school Georgia and it was great

444
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,080
Speaker 2: for two things. One it made me think in different

445
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Speaker 2: ways that I hadn't before from a textbook standpoint in

446
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:41,200
Speaker 2: sports management. And two, it brought me a deeper connection

447
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 2: with Georgia because now it's prideful to say, like I'm

448
00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: a Georgia grad, I'm not a lum, and that that

449
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,120
Speaker 2: means something to me. That the fact that I want

450
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Speaker 2: to be in the rest of my life that I

451
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,280
Speaker 2: can say I'm not just a you know, person worked

452
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 2: to have a person who actually graduate career. So that's

453
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Speaker 2: helped deepen my connection and makes it makes it a

454
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Speaker 2: little more special for me.

455
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Speaker 3: Of course, you get that degree and immediately get an

456
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: athletic director job Millsaps College there in Jackson, Mississippi. This

457
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 3: was my fun fact about this time. You were one

458
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Speaker 3: of the first athletic directors and a young athletic director,

459
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Speaker 3: a newly minted athletic director, in college sports to introduce

460
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Speaker 3: on site beer gardens at the game, and you had

461
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Speaker 3: a little pushback.

462
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Speaker 1: On this is that right?

463
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Speaker 3: Talk to me about the decision that, like, why did

464
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Speaker 3: you make the decision? Why did you feel like it

465
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Speaker 3: was a good thing.

466
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Speaker 2: So I felt at a place like Millsaps, you can

467
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Speaker 2: take chances, I thought, And it's a place where I

468
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Speaker 2: could take a chance to do something different. And I

469
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: knew that organically you weren't going to have a lot

470
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Speaker 2: of people just show up at millsapsotball games in Jacksonsissippi,

471
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Speaker 2: So we had to do something different to excite the

472
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Speaker 2: local families and people to come out to games. So

473
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Speaker 2: when I went on the interview at Millsaps, I said,

474
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be myself to the full play it

475
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Speaker 2: all out there. I've had a few ideas, one of

476
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Speaker 2: them will being the beer guarden. But there was a

477
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Speaker 2: handful of ideas I pitched, and I said, they're there

478
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: gonna like me, or they're gonna hire me, or they're

479
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: not gonna like me, and they're not gonna hire me,

480
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Speaker 2: and it wouldn't be meant to be. So I pitched

481
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Speaker 2: all my ideas like that and a few other ones.

482
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Speaker 2: Similar to that, and they loved them. And I get

483
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Speaker 2: there and I get hired in July, and the football

484
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 2: season obviously starts to September, and I thought, okay, I'm

485
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 2: gonna wait till a year in and start the beer guarden.

486
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Speaker 2: You don't come in and throw all your crazy ideas

487
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Speaker 2: out there. And then a couple of weeks in people

488
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:26,160
Speaker 2: were like, hey, man, what's up this beer guarden?

489
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Speaker 5: You told us about an interview.

490
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Speaker 2: I was like, okay, I guess we're doing this so so.

491
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Speaker 2: And you know, we had a Methodist affiliation at Millsaps.

492
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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because not to get too into deep

493
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Speaker 2: into the rigionport, but there was a debate amongst some

494
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:50,680
Speaker 2: different Methodists entities basically arguing John Wesley's feelings on alcohol.

495
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Speaker 2: Some felt it was none and some felt that it

496
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Speaker 2: was in moderation. And I felt that this was a

497
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Speaker 2: good way to moderate drinking in a way people could

498
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Speaker 2: do it safely because people weren't getting.

499
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Speaker 5: You know, they weren't.

500
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Speaker 2: We were controlling it, and it was a way to

501
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Speaker 2: do it responsibly. But you know, the the hate mail

502
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: I got was actually from people who weren't even affiliated

503
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: with most steps. It was just random people from other

504
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: faiths that were sending me letters. And it got a

505
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,479
Speaker 2: little nasty there for a little bit, but it with

506
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: all things that passed and and they still have it today.

507
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: And what's funny, and this is funny, but not funny.

508
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 2: The beer garden is right next to the kid zone.

509
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 2: We created a kid zone too, And that sounds funny,

510
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 2: but it works out great because the parents want to

511
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: drop their kids off at the kids zone, yeah, and

512
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 2: at the beer garden and let little Johnny and Susie

513
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: run around. And so it was about making making it

514
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Speaker 2: more than just a game. And I said that with

515
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 2: all due respect to the student athletes, but we had

516
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Speaker 2: to do something bigger. So we we we created a

517
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 2: kid zone, a beer garden. We took the student section

518
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: and we would do fun things like we did a

519
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:53,280
Speaker 2: phone party one time during a game where we literally

520
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 2: had a big phone pit and just let the students

521
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Speaker 2: have fun. So it was it was a place where

522
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Speaker 2: you could try things, make mistakes.

523
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Speaker 5: Learn and grow.

524
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Speaker 2: And it was just a phenomenal place for me to

525
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: get to cut my teeth and trust some things.

526
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Speaker 3: After a couple more years at Louisiana Monroe, you go

527
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Speaker 3: back to Georgia. Now, when you go back to Georgia

528
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Speaker 3: in twenty sixteen to take an associate athletic directory job,

529
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Speaker 3: do you see that as your path? Do you think

530
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 3: I'm going to be there forever?

531
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

532
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the I left in fourteen to go

533
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 2: to Millsaps And you'll limp to get outside of my

534
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 2: comfort zone. If you can imagine at Georgia, I'd come

535
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: up through the ranks and then I was associated, but

536
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 2: I was in just a couple of areas of responsibility

537
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: and I had to step out of that to get

538
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 2: experience in fundraising and marketing and ticket sales and everything else.

539
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 2: And so when I came back to Georgia, it was

540
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Speaker 2: a all due respect to everyone in the building, but

541
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Speaker 2: I'm coming back to take that next step.

542
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Speaker 5: And I was.

543
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Speaker 2: Gonna be patient on it because I didn't know if

544
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Speaker 2: i'd get I knew Greg, my previous boss, was he

545
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 2: had a few left, he was going to retire at

546
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Speaker 2: some point. But I was okay with Okay, if I

547
00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 2: get it, I get it. If I don't, I don't,

548
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 2: I'll be ready to take a job somewhere else. And

549
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 2: this is now going to cap off my experience and

550
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: I'll be ready to interview for whatever's next.

551
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Speaker 5: But it worked out, and.

552
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Speaker 2: I'm you know, luck timing just merged at the right

553
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 2: time and it worked out. But you know, I came

554
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: back with the thought of I'm either going to be

555
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 2: at Georgia, be the number two or three the rest

556
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: of my career, or hopefully there's an opportunity here somewhere else.

557
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: Since twenty twenty one, the Athletic Director of Georgia. I've

558
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 3: got to give you a bunch of fun facts here.

559
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty three Sports Bureau Journal Athletic Director of the

560
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: Year finalist Georgia highest ranking in eighteen years, ranked seventh

561
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Speaker 3: in the lear Field Director's Cup, basically excellence in sports athletics.

562
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Speaker 1: This stat is insane.

563
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Speaker 3: Josh, Georgia has twenty one sports seventeen finished with a

564
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Speaker 3: top twenty ranking and nine ended up in the top

565
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Speaker 3: ten of twenty twenty three. Is that the best stat

566
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 3: for you? Is that the stat you're most proud of?

567
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know it's it's you can never take

568
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 2: anything away from a national championship in any sport, and

569
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Speaker 2: obviously football is just amazing. But I do take a

570
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: lot of pride and I want to be good in

571
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: every I'm a competitor. I love to compete, and I

572
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 2: want to be good in every all twenty one sports.

573
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: I always make the joke that if we started a

574
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: bad minton team tomorrow, I'd want to have the best

575
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 2: bad mint team in the country. I just I'm a

576
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 2: competitor and that's why I love the shop so much.

577
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 2: But yeah, there's a lot of pride in that because

578
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 2: especially when you can you can make a change in

579
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 2: a program, bringing a new coach and see it grow

580
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 2: like what our soccer program has done the last two years.

581
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: That's a lot of fun when you see it. Okay,

582
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 2: we weren't even making the SEC tournament and then we

583
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 2: made the insula term that we won the SEC. That's

584
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: just that's really fun and that's one of the big

585
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: pride points for me.

586
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 3: In addition to football, obviously you just mentioned soccer, volleyball,

587
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: track and field softball all making huge strides being very successful,

588
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 3: and you have ten head coaching hires there. Now, what

589
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: is important for you when you're looking to hire a

590
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: new head coach in any sport?

591
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's different sport to sport because the

592
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 2: opportunities and challenges are different in every single sport, and

593
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 2: not to sound cliches, but it's in the world we

594
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 2: live in today. I've got to make sure first and

595
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: foremost that I've got someone that I can trust with

596
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 2: my young men and women that were there's too much

597
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: going on in the world that the deal breaker for

598
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 2: me is I've got to trust and know that I

599
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 2: can trust that they're going to do right by the

600
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 2: young men and women. That's where it starts for me.

601
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 2: Then it's about development and recruiting, and recruiting is a

602
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: big piece for me. You better have a plan, you

603
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: better enjoy recruiting. You got to be really active because

604
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it doesn't matter how

605
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 2: good of a coach you are. You better have these

606
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: student athletes and the players. And it's not just about

607
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: their ability, it's about their their mindset, their ability to develop,

608
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: the their they be able to make it here academically.

609
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 5: You know, so you have your your standard things you're

610
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 5: looking for.

611
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 2: But then it then it comes down to fit and

612
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,640
Speaker 2: gut and like when I meet someone, does my gut

613
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: tingle when I meet them, because hopefully, if I've narrowed

614
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 2: it down in three or four they all meet the

615
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: the qualifications I want, and then when I meet them,

616
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 2: it's gotta I just trust my gut and go, this

617
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 2: is somebody I believe in. This is somebody that I

618
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: that I want to leave my program.

619
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Speaker 3: God, I love that, Like really good for you, and

620
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 3: obviously it's working out well for you. But I don't

621
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 3: want to get on a soapbox here. But you know,

622
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 3: I mean there's so much talk these days in sports

623
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 3: about analytics, and I'm not saying analytics are not important,

624
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 3: but you also, well you have.

625
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: To let's you have to have a good I've got

626
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: a good gut.

627
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, but but I love that that and that

628
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: you're and that you're transparent about it, like you've got

629
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: to have somebody or you've got to have a feeling

630
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 3: about this person that's more than just intellectual.

631
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

632
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: I've just been always been a big gut person and

633
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: believe it. And I think, Look, I'll be honest with you.

634
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 2: I am not super talented. Look I've bet I told

635
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: you I was average football player, average athlete. Everybody in

636
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 2: my department that leads leads a unit, they do it

637
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: better than I could ever do it. Like my CFO

638
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 2: I could never be a better CFO than her. My

639
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: person that runs development, the person runs to every single

640
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: categorical item in this department. They all do it way

641
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: better than I could ever imagine do it. So I

642
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: don't have a true talent for any of these things.

643
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 2: I think my best talent is doing what I'm doing.

644
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know to explain that, but and

645
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: I just got to go with my gut because at

646
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 2: the end of the day, if they make my gut tingle,

647
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: then then hopefully that means they're going to make recruits

648
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 2: and others feel the same way, and they'll be able

649
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: to get people here, and they'll get people to buy

650
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: in and believe and know what we're doing. So and look,

651
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: it's not going to be nothing ever is going to

652
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: be full proof, and unfortunately in this business, it's a

653
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 2: mathematical certainty. At some point I'm going to have to

654
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: probably fire someone I hired, and that day will be terrible,

655
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: but hopefully not. I really enjoy the people I work with,

656
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: and obviously the people I've hired I believe in, and

657
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: then I think my part of my responsibility with that

658
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: is to give them every resource they need to be

659
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 2: successful and remove the roadblocks, give them the resources to

660
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: where they can do what we've brought them here to

661
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: do well.

662
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:29,959
Speaker 3: In addition to recruiting, setting a record for fundraising in

663
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, as well also record breaking academic year

664
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty three, setting a new school high mark

665
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: for cumulative GPA. I mean, you're on a good run here, Josh.

666
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 3: And in addition to everything else, let's just say the

667
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: highest profile sports, college football, you are the first and

668
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: only team to go back to back in the college

669
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: Football Playoff. The last team to go back to back

670
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 3: in an undisputed way was Alabama in twenty eleven and

671
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. It's been eleven years since that. You have

672
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 3: a chance to go for three. What happens on Saturday? Like,

673
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 3: how are you viewing the game right now? Your comfort level?

674
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: You know, I think it's going to Like you said,

675
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 2: it's been one of those classic matchups, two really good

676
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 2: football teams, two great coaching staffs. For me, I always

677
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: say the games are one in the trenches, who controls

678
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: a lot of scrimmage and then and then it could

679
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 2: come down to a crazy thing happening, a turnover here,

680
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: turnover there. This feels like a game where it's going

681
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: to be important. The winner of the game is probably

682
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 2: going to win the turnover battle, and unless something crazy

683
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: happens on special teams, I really feel like the turnover

684
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: battle is going to be the deciding point of this game.

685
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: But you know, this is excitement. It's you know that

686
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: there's nerves to go into a game like this, but

687
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: it's also excitement because this is why we do it,

688
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,479
Speaker 2: you know, so you can't shy away from these moments.

689
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: We work, We work to have these opportunities. So you're

690
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: ready to just tee it up and let's let's go,

691
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 2: and let's see what happens.

692
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: You know, this morning in my car, I was listening

693
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: to Greg McElroy, obviously Alabama quarterback, Greg talking very confidently

694
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: about how Alabama matches up against Georgia. Alabama should not matter.

695
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: What happened last week at Auburn is maybe the greatest

696
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: travesty I have ever seen on a football field, because

697
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: here's the thing. The kick six that happens, this is

698
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 3: a crazy, unexpected play. This is this is crazy fourth

699
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 3: and thirty one when you have everyone back in the

700
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: end zone. This is this is something that should should

701
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 3: not happen. I said on the record, I know you

702
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 3: can't say it. Everybody at Auburn gone got goodbye, kick

703
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: them out of the conference. You're feeling watching the game last.

704
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: Year at this point in that game, you nothing surprised

705
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 2: you anymore. It's and I'm gonna tell you Auburn is well,

706
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 2: it's a crazy place to play where those fans they

707
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 2: do a great job.

708
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: You know.

709
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 2: What's funny about the SEC is like so you you know,

710
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: after going to LSU and they're working at Monroe and

711
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: playing Auburn a bunch and now being at Georgia, Auburn

712
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,360
Speaker 2: has been a team I've played throughout the twenty five

713
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 2: years of my career all the time, and it's a

714
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: team that you you know, it's a rival. You can't

715
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: stand them in the Senate. Then you meet the people

716
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: that work there and you just love They've got some

717
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: of the great greatest administrators there. Hey d he's a

718
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: great guy there. And it's like, I want to hate you, man,

719
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 2: like y'all are so nice and such good people, like

720
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 2: you're supposed to hate Auburn. But and that's the same

721
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: thing with like Tennessee and Florida to other places like,

722
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 2: I want to hate you so much, but there's just

723
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: so many good people in this profession that it's funny

724
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: that people don't see the behind the scenes side of

725
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: that of so many good people.

726
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know you're being nice, but that was just

727
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 3: I mean you, I like, that's pretty good. Yeah, you know,

728
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: I did hear you. I did hear you in an interview.

729
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: I found this fascinating. You just alluded to it right now.

730
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: You talked about how the SEC Athletic directors work.

731
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: Really more, We've done more research than anybody I've ever interview.

732
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: This is there that there is a there is a camaraderie,

733
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 3: there is a you all are helping each other.

734
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 1: It is this is this is true, very correct.

735
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: You know, we we're our own little therapy group to

736
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 2: some degree some points in time when we get together

737
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: because we are some of the only people that know

738
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 2: what each other are going through, uh, whether we're dealing

739
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 2: with fans or student athletes, or coaches or staff or

740
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: et cetera. Because it's these chairs can be lonely sometimes

741
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: so being able to talk to the ad at Auburn

742
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,360
Speaker 2: or Florida or Tennessee or whoever and talk through issues

743
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: and really talk about best practices and we and look,

744
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 2: we understand that as the SEC goes, we all go.

745
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 2: The more successful they see is the better we're all

746
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 2: going to be across the ward. So there is a

747
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 2: common interest in our league doing well. And you know,

748
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: we want to get as many teams in the playoffs,

749
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: so we want to get as many teams in the instantly

750
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 2: tournament in baseball and basketball, et cetera. So there's pride there,

751
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: and there is great camaraderie and I really enjoy We

752
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: meet in person a few times a year and we

753
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 2: zoom every couple of weeks and it's a fun group

754
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 2: and we lean on each other pretty well.

755
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,879
Speaker 3: I love hearing that too, and it and it makes

756
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 3: a lot of sense. I have to ask you about

757
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh and the Michigan program and what is alleged

758
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 3: right now is the decision that was made to suspend

759
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: him for three games. Do you think that was the

760
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: right decision?

761
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.

762
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: We've we I've tended to always stay stay in our

763
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: own lane and not judge other people, because judge not

764
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: unless you be judged.

765
00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: But unless we could come right back. I got you right, Yes, No,

766
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 3: I understand.

767
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: You know, I've been in those trenches before, and I've

768
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: been on other sides of the table on any situation

769
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 2: like that, and you never want to judge because you

770
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 2: know that things can be reported one way and then

771
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: they're the deep. The facts of a situation may not

772
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: be what's being reported out. So you try to hold

773
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: back judgment in any situation like that because you just

774
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: you don't know what you know. Unless you're there, you

775
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 2: don't know what the truth is. So I have my

776
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: own challenges every day, so I.

777
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: Tend not to you stand your own lane. Well, here's

778
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 3: the thing that to me is fascinating. Big time college

779
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: sports is a business, and now at this moment where

780
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 3: we sit right now, the only chance for a big team,

781
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: big ten team to get into the college football playoffs.

782
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: Is if it's Michigan.

783
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 3: And if Michigan doesn't get in, they're costing themselves and

784
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: their own institutions a lot of money. So the the

785
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 3: oversight is all to me very confusing.

786
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 5: That's a good that's an interesting way.

787
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,919
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, because it's a conflicted feeling of pride

788
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: in the conference and revenue opportunities for the conference. So

789
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 2: I would that'd be interesting to see how they all

790
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 2: feel about watching that Big Ten championship game. But but yeah,

791
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: I know, and look, I know fans were probably some

792
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 2: would probably scoff at me saying this, But we we do.

793
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: We root, we root for us to see for them

794
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:27,959
Speaker 2: to do well.

795
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: You know, we do, I think most fans do. I mean,

796
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: at a certain it's a.

797
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 5: Point of pride.

798
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: It is a point of pridm because you can look

799
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 2: back on it and say and say, look at our history,

800
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 2: Look how well our conference has done the playoffs. And

801
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: that's a good bragging point to say, this is the

802
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 2: conference that has the best track record right in the playoffs.

803
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: So I think that's I think that's true.

804
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 3: I mean, I certainly hear a lot of SEC specifically

805
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: SEC chants from fans at certain games, you know, particularly

806
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: when you get into like you know, the NCAA March

807
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: Madness basketball tournament bracket, Like there's a there's like, well,

808
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 3: they beat us, and they're better than us this year,

809
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 3: but them being better makes us better somehow.

810
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: And then and then even when like someone beats an

811
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: SEC team and they tweet or chant, oh, it just

812
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 2: means more like messing with us. It's like well, you're

813
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 2: actually proving our point when you when you trouble us

814
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 2: with that, that means that that hashtags work pretty well

815
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 2: and it's caught on so you're using it, so obviously

816
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: it's pretty pretty strong state, you know.

817
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: So Yeah, if Georgia does what I hope they do

818
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 3: and beats Alabama this weekend, it appears all but likely

819
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 3: that Alabama will not be in the College Football Playoff.

820
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: If somehow it's fourth and thirty one.

821
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 5: I'm walking out the building. I'm just walking.

822
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: You're just gonna walk out.

823
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, if somehow Georgia loses, Georgia, should they still be

824
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 3: uh in the college football Playoff?

825
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 2: You know, Look, I'm always gonna advocate for our team,

826
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 2: but we're a you know how we're wired here, Uh

827
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 2: with coach marsh leadership, We're focused on one thing and

828
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 2: one thing only that's that's winning Saturday. That's got to

829
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: be the focus because any minute we spent worrying about

830
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 2: alternative scenarios is a minute wasted. So we've got to

831
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 2: be focused on the task in hand. And uh.

832
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 3: And then I actually like that because I I've spent

833
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 3: a lot of time worrying about the others.

834
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't. I mean, it's a wasted wasted.

835
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: No, you're no, You're right, it is. It is a

836
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: total waste of time.

837
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: I do think there was an important statement that was

838
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: made that I would always fall back to, as this said,

839
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: it is the best four team. So that's all I

840
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: have four teams, that's all I ask for. However, that dice,

841
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: however that shakes out best four team and the best

842
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 2: four teams, and if and if everyone in the committee

843
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: does that in their art and wherever it falls, it falls.

844
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: But you know, you know, you know who's the smartest

845
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 3: about that about picking the best four teams?

846
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: Vegas, Vegas. Just go to Vegas.

847
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 5: They've got they've got true motives to pick the right.

848
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: For well yeah, exactly.

849
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 3: Uh basketball team, A highly touted new recruit coming to Georgia.

850
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 3: Talk to me a little bit about in il good.

851
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 2: I think there's good and bad, right, I think it's here.

852
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: We I'm a I'm an optimist. I focus on the

853
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 2: positives of it. The positives of it are student athletes

854
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: now have the ability to make money off their name, image, likeness,

855
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 2: which is great because you know, you see a guy

856
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: like last year, like stets invented and others are now

857
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: other young men on the team and women we have

858
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 2: in other sports who have an opportunity to go do

859
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 2: ads and commercials to help some that can just put

860
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: money away from the future, some that can help their

861
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: family right now in need. And that's a great thing

862
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: that because there were some really silly restrictions before, like

863
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: what not let a kid if a kid wants to

864
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: get a local tire dealership to sponsor and why you know,

865
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 2: so that's open some really good avenues for kids can

866
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 2: make money, and I think that it's helping some kids

867
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: decide to stay in school for another year.

868
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 5: Now.

869
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: The bad side of that is tampering and inducements trying

870
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: to get people to transfer. We've experienced the firsthand. And

871
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 2: people always think it's just football and basketball. It's it's

872
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,479
Speaker 2: widespread across many sports. So you know, there's some bad

873
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: parts to it that hopefully through congressional work and through

874
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 2: the work we're doing with INSUBLA. I serve on one

875
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: of the NIL subcommittees in Stable A. I'm actually going

876
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 2: to Indianapolis in December for a meeting that we're trying

877
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 2: to put some guardrails around some of these around collectives

878
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: and trying to make sense of it.

879
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 5: It's not easy.

880
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: I promise to that people that are far smarter than

881
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: I that have tried to work through how these guardrails

882
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: will work. And there's some anti trust issues and other things.

883
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: But you know, with any of that, I think there's

884
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 2: good and bad. I'm optimist. I focus on the positives

885
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: of it, and I think it's here to stay in

886
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: some form or fashion. Just have to keep it evolving

887
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 2: and doing the best our best with it to make it,

888
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: to make it the best it can be.

889
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's kind of my question, Like we're not done

890
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 3: with the current system.

891
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: You think we're still gonna No.

892
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: I think it's a yeah, it's a current evolution, and

893
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 2: hopefully through that we're learning and finding better practices and ways.

894
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: That we can.

895
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: You know, we want the nil, We want the opportunities

896
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: to athletes. What we want to do is put guardrails

897
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: to eliminate the tampering and inducement portion of it, because

898
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: what we don't want is what I don't want is

899
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: anyone using as inducement for a reason to go to

900
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 2: a school. Now you go to school, you have success,

901
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 2: then the world's your oyster. Go you know, and we

902
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 2: will help you within the rules. Every way we can

903
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 2: provide anil opportunities for you, make connections with you. We

904
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 2: have we work in partnership with the Classic City Collective

905
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: here in Athos. It does a phenomenal job and they

906
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: do a great job of finding the big deals, the

907
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 2: small deals and everything in between. But I don't like

908
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: it as an inducement. I think you should choose your

909
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 2: college destination best based on the other reasons, the education,

910
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: the coach you believe in, that's the place you want

911
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 2: to live, and all those things. And then then I

912
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 2: al should be a bonus part of it, not the reason,

913
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 2: because you know, you know this money comes to money goes,

914
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 2: but your experiences and all that the four years you

915
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: have here every way more important than any money you

916
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 2: can make in your early ages, you know.

917
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I absolutely think that these student

918
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,479
Speaker 3: athletes should have the opportunity to do those things. I think,

919
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 3: particularly as a fan viewing this from the outside is

920
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 3: sort of the combination of the NIL and you know

921
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,919
Speaker 3: the other thing that's been around for a long time.

922
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: It's just getting talked about much more now, which is

923
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: the transfer portal. And so now what it feels like,

924
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 3: is there's a free flowing market in between schools where

925
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: people are getting induced to go to different schools, and

926
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 3: this it just becomes it becomes difficult to root for

927
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 3: the players. And I think that's the thing about college

928
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: sports is, you know, much more than professional sports.

929
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: It's about this. It's about the institution.

930
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 3: You're rooting for the school, but you obviously want the

931
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: players to be a part of that. And you know,

932
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,760
Speaker 3: how do you feel you know, what is your feeling

933
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 3: about about the transport portal and how that's sort of working.

934
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: It feels like in connection with the NIL right now.

935
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 2: I think even though a student may want up somewhere

936
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 2: and get an NIL deal after they get there or

937
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: whatever may be, you know, it still comes down to

938
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 2: when you start playing with a group of guys or

939
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 2: gals and you're on a common mission, you forget about

940
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: all the NIL stuff and you want to go play

941
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: and win. How you know, we're talking about five hundred

942
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 2: and fifty plus todent athletes who are driven to compete

943
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 2: and win. And yeah, the N I was a part,

944
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 2: but I can'tarantine you in the cultures we try to

945
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: build here, it's about the team first and if you

946
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 2: can go out and get this opportunities, great, But when

947
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 2: we suit it up, we're between the lines or on

948
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 2: the court or the field. That's the biggest thing right there,

949
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: is being a good teammate and trying to compete and win.

950
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: You're not thinking about an NL deal.

951
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, game, you know.

952
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a tricky thing.

953
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: I mean your you you mentioned specifically kids having that

954
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: connection to someone that you hired, a coach that they

955
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: feel like is you know, is going to best prepare

956
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 3: them either in their sport or in their life.

957
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's one of the big things our baseball

958
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: coach Wes Johnson and n Kirby and Mike White and

959
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 2: coach a lot of our coach you talk about it's

960
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 2: you got to believe in us that we're going to

961
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 2: suit you up better for life. So we don't think

962
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 2: about the short term benefits now because West Johnson baseball

963
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: coach talks by all the time. You go to school

964
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 2: and get fifty grand, one hundred grand for one year,

965
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: but I'm going to try to get you in the

966
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,919
Speaker 2: first second round of the baseball Draft, which will lead

967
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: to a much bigger deal. So you've got to see

968
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: the big picture, and that's why development is such a

969
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 2: big piece of this and that that's one of the

970
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: reasons that excited me about Wes and bringing him here

971
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 2: coach our baseball team is because the work he did

972
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: with Paul Skeens at LSU and other guys and showing

973
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: that hey, you come here. You may not get a

974
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 2: figure and il deal to come here, but you work here, develop,

975
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: We're going to lead you into a better situation than

976
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 2: the draft down the road.

977
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 1: That's right.

978
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 3: It feels as though right now with the athletic prowess

979
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 3: dominance I don't know that George is having right now,

980
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: you're not feeling the same pressure in situation. But obviously

981
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: coach Elco just committed to go to Texas A and

982
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 3: M and shocker alert the next day they're fantastic quarterback

983
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:34,280
Speaker 3: Leonard enters a transfer Porthal. So now here's a situation

984
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 3: where let's just assume what I don't know, which is

985
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 3: that he chose to go to do because of the coach.

986
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: Now the coach is leaving.

987
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 3: How do you feel about a situation where if you

988
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 3: have a kid who's bought into a coach, a situation

989
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: wanting to be with that coach and then the coach leaves.

990
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, we've had that. I had a coach leave.

991
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,799
Speaker 2: I won't name the sport, but a couple of years

992
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 2: ago I had a coach leave, and then two or

993
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 2: three days later, I had two or three of the

994
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 2: kids asked on the portal, A couple followed them to

995
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 2: their new school, and you know, one, one or two

996
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 2: more went to different schools, and at that point, you

997
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: and that's why I'm kind of okay with the one

998
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: time transfer, because I think in life, people could be

999
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 2: you know, hey, I want to go back home, or

1000
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 2: there's another reason, right. I don't like the multiple transfers,

1001
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: But at that point, those kids, you know, they don't

1002
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: they don't owe us, they don't owe me anything. They

1003
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 2: if you know, they came here under one thought and

1004
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: a coach is leaving. I don't begrudge them that. And

1005
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to hold anybody hostage here. And if

1006
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 2: they want to go somewhere else, then so be it,

1007
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: and we'll find someone else that wants to be here,

1008
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: because I don't want whether we're talking about a student

1009
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 2: athlete to staff and or coach, whatever it is, I

1010
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,919
Speaker 2: don't want anybody here that doesn't want to be here.

1011
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: This is a phenomenal place, and I say that as

1012
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,399
Speaker 2: humbly as I can. But George is awesome. And if

1013
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: if you're not bought in, and then we're not going

1014
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,920
Speaker 2: to beg you to believe in something that you don't

1015
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 2: believe in. So if it's not in the card for you,

1016
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 2: and again I say this politely as again will there

1017
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 2: are other young men and women and other staf people

1018
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: that want to be here, and we'll go recruit them

1019
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: to be here in your place.

1020
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 3: No, I get it. I mean that makes again, that

1021
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 3: makes tons of sense to me. You want to you

1022
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 3: want you want student athletes who are as excited about

1023
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 3: the place where you are as most of the people are.

1024
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: Because this is hard these Being a student athlete is

1025
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: not easy. Being a staff member in athletic person easy.

1026
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: Being a coach it's not easy. So you've got to

1027
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: make sure that everything in your life is aligned and

1028
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 2: you want to be here. And if you came under

1029
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 2: one coaching style and whatever else you or you just

1030
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: feel like I don't want this change. I want to

1031
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 2: see and so be it.

1032
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, college football playoff expanding next season?

1033
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: Is that good? You know?

1034
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 2: I think again, I'm talking out of both sides of

1035
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 2: my mouth. It's good and you know there's good and

1036
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 2: they're bad to it. I think I saw a good

1037
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 2: point about how you know, that Michigan Ohio State game,

1038
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 2: you know, it felt really big because it felt like

1039
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: the winner had a chance to be in the loser

1040
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: would not. And now if you fast forward to next

1041
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 2: year that same game eleven and zero versus eleven oh

1042
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: if like both teams are getting in, they're just playing

1043
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: for potentially a buye. So those big, big games won't

1044
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: feel quite so intense. But go pass one through six,

1045
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 2: seven through eighteen, seventh through nineteen sevent through twenty, there's

1046
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 2: gonna be more games that are gonna be more impactful.

1047
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,479
Speaker 2: Where now, if if eight versus fifteen are playing people

1048
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 2: like ah, it doesn't really matter much. They're not getting

1049
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 2: the top four. Where now there'll be more of those

1050
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: matchups across the board that people are fighting for spot ten, eleven, twelve.

1051
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 5: So I think it's.

1052
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 2: Better for more for more schools to be in that mix.

1053
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 2: And it's gonna be interesting to see the logistics of

1054
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 2: how it's gonna work with the you know, five through

1055
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 2: twelve playing and then you know, go to the quarter

1056
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 2: or some So there's a lot of to work through that.

1057
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: It's gonna be new but exciting nonetheless, and it'll be

1058
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: here next year, so.

1059
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 5: We will we will see soon enough.

1060
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: How do you think it affects the SEC?

1061
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 2: You know, look, I'm again, I'm an SEC homer, So

1062
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 2: it affects us because we're trying to We're all gonna

1063
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,720
Speaker 2: be in favor of trying to get as many SEC

1064
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,879
Speaker 2: teams and those slots as possible. Interesting to look at

1065
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 2: the rankings right now and how many teams, especially when

1066
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 2: you look at the future SEC with Texas and Oklahoma,

1067
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 2: we we're you know, we've got a lot of teams

1068
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 2: that mix to be fighting for those top theoretical eleven

1069
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: spots because twelve could be absorbed by the fifth conference champion.

1070
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 2: You're fighting for those top eleven spots. So hopefully, you know,

1071
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: the goal for US is set up a schedule, set

1072
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: up per formats can help us get as many teams

1073
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: in there as possible.

1074
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: Right, what's your favorite office episode?

1075
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,320
Speaker 2: Oh man, that sounds like picking your favorite kid. That's

1076
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: oh god, you know you gotta go for me, goly,

1077
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 2: you know, I got to go back to the first

1078
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:58,400
Speaker 2: season where it was really edgy. The Human Resources Day episode,

1079
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 2: it was just thanks, Yes, you couldn't do like.

1080
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 5: Things you watch Diversity Day.

1081
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 2: Yeah that you couldn't get away with those things today,

1082
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,919
Speaker 2: and it was so great. But I did you did

1083
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,919
Speaker 2: your prep for this? I did my prep as well,

1084
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 2: and I did my five favorite Kevin lines all time,

1085
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 2: and I try to go not too obvious, right because

1086
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 2: everybody will points to the chili scene or else. So okay,

1087
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 2: I wanted to do top five, but I had to

1088
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: do a runner up that didn't make it cut. It

1089
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,759
Speaker 2: was right there, so the runner up. This is what

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00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 2: I use all the time. Anytime you have ten thousand

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00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 2: and one os you always take it.

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Speaker 1: Always take it.

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00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 2: Because if John Mellencamp ever wins an oscar, I amn't

1094
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 2: going to be a very rich dude.

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00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: So I've been tracking that.

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00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm like, if John, I'm just thinking, at some point

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00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: John Mellencamp is going to be an indie movie that's

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00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: gonna win, and it's gonna be like The Simpsons projecting

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00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: the future. The Office knew the whole time that Mellencamp

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Speaker 2: was gonna do something like that.

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Speaker 5: So that was a runner up.

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00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,839
Speaker 3: Okay, that's a runner up. That's like, uh, that's like

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00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 3: Auburn last weekend. You gotta take you gotta take those on.

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00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 2: Bet. So number five is the CPR scene call it.

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00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: That's that's a classic number four. I thought Roger Ganda

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00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 2: was a boy's name.

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00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 3: Okay, that's an obscure one. Okay, it's very good. Uh,

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00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: I'll tell you a little. I'll tell you give you

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00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:25,360
Speaker 3: a little about that Roger and Ganda. I have had

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00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 3: people ask me to write that quote. I get when

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00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 3: people have asked me to write quote and it inevitably

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00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 3: turns into a three to four minute Google session me

1113
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to spell it because I

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00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: don't I don't remember.

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00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,720
Speaker 2: Well, yes, yeah, that's a good that that's a good Uh.

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00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: I bet Clark Williams my buddy. I bet he knows

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00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 2: how to I guarantee you number three, Oscar. I'm now

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00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: prone to surges.

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00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: Yes, there you go.

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00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 2: That's a good number two, as has Kevin.

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00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 5: Pause, and then.

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00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: She goes to enough school, Yes, there you go.

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00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 2: And then my number one, which I think now I'm

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: starting to blend what was in it wasn't in because

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00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 2: this was a I think this was an eleited scene.

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00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 1: Okay, I know where you're going.

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00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can ask me directly if she wants a brother?

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00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 5: Is that right? Don't quote that right?

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00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 4: That line that was?

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00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 2: How was that line cut?

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00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: That was? I know, I know the way you delivered

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00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: it too. Thank you.

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00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: I love the Clark and I always go on these

1134
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: deep subreddit tweet thought you know like these form whole

1135
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 2: you know about? Was Kevin secretly a genius the whole time?

1136
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: Is my favorite theory, like he was just screwed with

1137
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 2: everybody the whole time to get out of work and

1138
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 2: just skate by.

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00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 3: I love that, I've I've I have been asked about

1140
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 3: that a lot. Unfortunately, I don't I don't think it's true.

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 1: I don't.

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00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't take fun, don't. It's fun

1143
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 3: to think about, but I don't think it's true.

1144
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 2: Uh.

1145
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 3: The last time in college football all back to back

1146
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 3: to back three in a row eighty seven years ago.

1147
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 3: Minnesota did it in nineteen thirty four to nineteen thirty six.

1148
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: Is it going to happen this year? You know?

1149
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 5: I again, I don't know.

1150
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 2: I just I've kept the attitude the whole time of

1151
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,400
Speaker 2: never prognosticating, predicting, just taking one time because people messed

1152
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: with me. I mean the number one question I got.

1153
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,480
Speaker 2: We won a Nation championship my first year's ad, and

1154
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 2: people kept screwing me the whole time. You won a

1155
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 2: NASH championship my first year, What are you going to

1156
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: do after that? And I was like, I'm just I'm

1157
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 2: just retiring after that. And then we then we somehow

1158
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 2: pulled off a second. But now I'm just like, man,

1159
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: I just literally count my blessings and just appreciate it

1160
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 2: for you know, all the people here that you know,

1161
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 2: Kirby and other people. We obviously get credit or thanks

1162
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 2: for it that you know so many people and these

1163
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 2: student athletes. It's been a special ride and you never

1164
00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: want to take one moment of it for granted.

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00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 5: But it has been a fun ride.

1166
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 3: Let me let me tell you you're a good guy.

1167
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 3: The people around you, everyone that I've met has been fantastic. Uh,

1168
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 3: it's so fun And I don't know, maybe this is

1169
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 3: just my perception, but I feel like, uh, at least

1170
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: right now, it may change depending on what happens this year.

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00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: But you got a lot of people who are rooting.

1172
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:25,240
Speaker 3: For Georgia over the the evil Empire across state lines.

1173
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: So we'll we'll see if that if that goodwill holds up,

1174
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 3: or hopefully we.

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00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 2: Meet like all the office fans behind us, or you know.

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00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 3: That's right exactly just for this, for this one uh,

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00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 3: for this one game, for these two.

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Speaker 1: I maybe I.

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00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 2: Love Greg Byrne, but I would challenge Greg Burn to

1180
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: an office quote, you know, any contest office trivia.

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00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1182
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 5: I'll have to ask them what is trivia knowledge?

1183
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 3: Maybe that's maybe, maybe that's maybe that's the next thing

1184
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 3: is we get you and the athletic director at Alabama

1185
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,439
Speaker 3: to do an office trivia contest. We'll see, we'll see

1186
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 3: what happens. Josh, thank you so much for joining me.

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00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: Thank you for your candor your insight. When you're listening

1188
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 3: to this, the game's already happened. I know you've got

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00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: a busy weekend, which is why we're recording it today.

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00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: Have a great, great weekend.

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00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: And best of luck in not just football, but the

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00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 3: rest of.

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00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 1: Your twenty one sports the rest of the year.

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 5: Appreciate it. Go Dogs, Go Dogs.

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00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 6: Thanks Josh, Josh.

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00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,840
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. I know you're busy.

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00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:47,280
Speaker 3: Good luck the rest of the year and go dogs, sick'em.

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Speaker 1: Woof, woof, woof. Yep, that's what we say. Thanks for listening, listeners.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna find me here again next week with a

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00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 3: very very special guest.

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00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: How can I tease this one? If you were alive

1202
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: in the.

1203
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 3: Eighties in the nineties, you're you're a fan of this guy,

1204
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 3: I promise, so we'll.

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00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: See you next week.

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00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:25,480
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