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Speaker 1: The John Nnick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian, I fucking love him.

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Speaker 2: I can't get enough of him. Big job there for

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Speaker 3: There are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian's.

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Speaker 4: A oh, we made it interesting pre show meeting.

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Speaker 5: I look forward to having eight minutes to chopping it

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Speaker 5: up with you and and code read and uh and

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Speaker 5: Nate Bronson and everybody else backstage. And today was actually

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Speaker 5: a code read because I couldn't get in the studio.

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Speaker 3: But we're here.

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Speaker 4: We're live, Kenny. Nothing live to tape about it. We're live.

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Speaker 5: It is Monday, March sixteenth, twenty twenty six, Episode five

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Speaker 5: eighty seven of the Antaki Florian Podcast, Powered by All

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Speaker 5: This Fight.

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Speaker 4: Kenny, Good morning.

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Speaker 6: It is great to see you, buddy. I'm glad we

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Speaker 6: worked out through those problems. You look fantastic, thanks, Buddy.

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Speaker 5: Were trying to get me Municipal to sponsor the show,

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Speaker 5: so I figured I would bring out some of my

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Speaker 5: sport utility gear today. So yeah, for some reason, through

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Speaker 5: my amazing UFC laptop, I could not get in the

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Speaker 5: studio so I was on the cell phone.

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Speaker 4: But we are here.

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Speaker 5: We have so much to get into. We have a

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Speaker 5: guest off the top of the show in a few minutes,

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Speaker 5: the Great Ken ride Out. We will also do some

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Speaker 5: Professional Grappling Federation stuff on the tail end of the

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Speaker 5: show as well. We will get into UFC Fight Night.

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Speaker 5: You have loyeb Bursus Murphy and I got an extra

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Speaker 5: hop in my step today because we get to open

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Speaker 5: some UFC cards at the end of the US. I

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Speaker 5: have already seen them populated in mic count I'm very excited.

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Speaker 5: I went on a little binge there for a while,

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Speaker 5: and I think maybe part of the reason why they

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Speaker 5: were restocking was because I was buying all of the

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Speaker 5: the cards. But we will get off the back end

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Speaker 5: of the show and a lot of good things. Ray

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Speaker 5: Longo of course coming up. Brandon mccatharine, founder Commissioner of

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Speaker 5: the Professional Grappling Federation. Ken Fullon knows him pretty well.

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Speaker 5: One pm Eastern. I'm very excited about that. So a

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Speaker 5: lot of things to get into today. And you can

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Speaker 5: tell me Cody as soon as we have Ken ride out,

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Speaker 5: and we will get to him. There have been so

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Speaker 5: many different UFCF oh you have Ken. Let's go to

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Speaker 5: Ken right now. Let's go to Ken right now, right

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Speaker 5: off the top of the show. And you knew this

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Speaker 5: guy would be on the screws. You knew this guy

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Speaker 5: would be on the screws if you know anything about

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Speaker 5: Ken ride Out So I met him as the co

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Speaker 5: host of the Fight with Teddy Atlas podcast. There he

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Speaker 5: is Somerville, Massachusetts own. So this is a renaissance man.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know how to properly introduce marathon or triathlete,

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Speaker 5: founder of ride Out Sports and Entertainment, the author of

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Speaker 5: the book Everything You Want Is on the other side

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Speaker 5: of Hard. My kids already are so sick of hearing

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Speaker 5: me talk about this book title, because it might be

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Speaker 5: the greatest book title of all time. Ken Rideout is

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Speaker 5: with us, My man, Good afternoon, how we doing.

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Speaker 7: Thanks for having me, guys.

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Speaker 8: It's an absolute pleasure and honor to be in the

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Speaker 8: company of two legitimate legends.

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Speaker 7: I'm just like surviving over here, but you guys are the.

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Speaker 4: Best, always thriving and surviving.

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Speaker 5: So I guess you guys are both Kenneth on your

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Speaker 5: birth certificate, Is that right, Ken, You're Kenneth?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, Kenneth. I mean my whole life, you know,

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Speaker 8: you know, growing up in Oh sorry Kenny Florian. Yeah, sorry,

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Speaker 8: I'm talking about ye.

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Speaker 3: But I.

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Speaker 4: Well, so Ken right out went with the more masculine Ken.

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Speaker 5: Kenny Florida went with you know, Kenny Florian, I mean,

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Speaker 5: when did you become Ken instead of me?

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Speaker 7: Know what, Anny, that's an interesting question.

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Speaker 8: I was just going to tell you growing up my

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Speaker 8: whole life, I was Kenny right Like in Boston, no

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Speaker 8: their name. I don't even refer to you as John Annick.

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Speaker 8: I'm like Johnny Annick, and uh, you know, so when

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Speaker 8: just as as like getting right to the point. In Finance,

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Speaker 8: I was like, I'm just Ken.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if it sounds more masculine, but I

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Speaker 5: We all have relatively short names, which is good, and

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Speaker 5: yours it's more mature. It is it is, And I'm

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Speaker 5: just going Kenny hard time. But no, when you prepare

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Speaker 5: And that's my first question is, Hey, Kenny, how did

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Speaker 5: you become Kenny and not Ken Florian, which does sound

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Speaker 5: a little bit tougher. You're not prepared to answer that today.

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Speaker 5: All right, we can move on. So Ken, I don't

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Speaker 5: abridged version of how you got to a place in

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Speaker 5: your life that seems to be one that is, you know,

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Speaker 7: Peace and happiness might be a bit of a stretch.

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Speaker 8: I'm still on there. I'm still on the journey, John.

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Speaker 8: But you know, the even the title, right, I was

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Speaker 8: wrestling with titles, and the truth is, every single thing

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Speaker 8: that I've wanted to achieve in my life, the things

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Speaker 7: And I would like say to you guys like, it

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Speaker 7: Well, guess what. It wasn't f and easy. It was

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Speaker 8: I see the preparation that you put into each show,

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Speaker 8: He doesn't clown around. It's like he's not winging it.

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Speaker 8: And the same thing for Kenny Florian. You don't get

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Speaker 7: There's no way to get out of here except.

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Speaker 7: But that is not something that I would like. No

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Speaker 7: So mad, respect, mad respect to both of you.

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Speaker 8: But to answer your question, A bridge version grew up

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Speaker 8: And I didn't have any real mentors or role models,

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Speaker 8: I treated my life John the way you treat a

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Speaker 7: I just started training with intention.

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Speaker 8: I took extreme responsibility for myself, which wasn't easy.

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Speaker 7: I was a loser.

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Speaker 8: I was taking drugs every day, avoiding my problems and

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Speaker 8: And I wasn't trying to be a runner. I wasn't

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Speaker 8: And the next thing, you know, I started to win races,

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Speaker 8: Endorsement deals, and it kind of took on a life

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Speaker 7: I say to my wife, like, once a week, can

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Speaker 7: you believe I don't have a job, Like I love

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Speaker 6: Well, you created this life, man, It really is very inspirational.

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Speaker 6: You know, there's a lot of people in that position, though,

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Speaker 6: who say listen, I want to change my life, but

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Speaker 6: they don't have structure. How did you find structure and

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Speaker 6: a plan that you stuck to? I imagine it probably

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Speaker 6: start reading books like how did you formulate that?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Man, great question, And no, I definitely didn't read any

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Speaker 8: his name, Aljo for the title in Boston. Dana, I

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Speaker 8: had seen him in Nashville like a couple of weeks before,

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Speaker 8: and I was like, Oh, my son's into wrestling jiu jitsu.

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Speaker 8: He loves it, thinks he's gonna fight in the USC.

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Speaker 8: Dana was like, bring him to Boston in two weeks,

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Speaker 8: and I brought him up, being like, Dana's like, I

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Speaker 8: gotta tell you, like, Dana is the freaking nicest guy

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Speaker 8: in the world.

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Speaker 7: He doesn't.

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Speaker 8: I don't know him that well. I mean, we're both

448
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Speaker 8: from Boston. I met him a couple of times, but

449
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Speaker 8: we're not boys.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 7: He's not texting me like, Hey, how's the book sales?

452
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Speaker 7: And he says, bring your son, So I bring my son.

453
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Speaker 7: We're coming in the backs. We're in the front row.

454
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Speaker 8: Of the VIP section, which you know, Dana, there's like

455
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Speaker 8: the Celtics head coaches three rows behind me, so he

456
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Speaker 8: like took care of us. Like it was just I

457
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Speaker 8: was speechless, right, So he comes over in between the

458
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Speaker 8: Comaine and the main grabs my son, takes my phone

459
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Speaker 8: and brings him around.

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Speaker 7: He interrupts that broadcast. He's taking pictures of him with

461
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Speaker 7: Rogan and he's then.

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Speaker 8: Got Bruce Popper hold and his stand up and he

463
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Speaker 8: goes Cameron get in the octagon, and you know it's

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Speaker 8: right before the main event.

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Speaker 7: And he's got his sneekers on and he says, uh, oh, Dana,

466
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Speaker 7: next time I get into octagon, I'm not going to

467
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Speaker 7: have my shoes on.

468
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Speaker 8: And Dana was like, oh, I love this kid. So

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Speaker 8: we got crazy pictures of it. It was like the

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Speaker 8: greatest night of my life. I've done some cool done,

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Speaker 8: I've been lucky, I've done I've gone to some cool events,

472
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Speaker 8: met some cool people, but that was one of the

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Speaker 8: most fun nights of my life to see my son

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Speaker 8: there with his eyes like and you know, I had

475
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Speaker 8: done the podcast with Teddy, so Mickey Wood was coming

476
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Speaker 8: over saying hello to us and my son says Dad,

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Speaker 8: I think you're famous, And I said, why do you

478
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Speaker 8: say that? He goes cause the famous people all know

479
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Speaker 8: who you are. I said, no, these are these are

480
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Speaker 8: just my friends. But it was, man, it was it

481
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Speaker 8: was magic all night. It's doing things like that. Oldgreenna

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Speaker 8: is a game changer.

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Speaker 5: So if people want to get the book, everything you

484
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Speaker 5: want is on the other side of herd.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 5: I like that picture of your grandmother, by the way,

487
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 5: who seemed like a tough lady, but she was the

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Speaker 5: one who gave you the most unconditional love.

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah.

492
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Speaker 8: She was a tough Irish broad. She was like she

493
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Speaker 8: was the sweetest person, but she wouldn't hesitate to be

494
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Speaker 8: like I'd bring a girl over and she'd be like,

495
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Speaker 8: hey girl, what's your name? And I mean she she

496
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Speaker 8: like literally only loved me, even when I even when

497
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Speaker 8: we had talked to my daughter for like two years,

498
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Speaker 8: she couldn't even remember her name.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, she's your grandma.

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Speaker 7: She's like, what's your daughter's name again? And I'm like,

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Speaker 7: she's crazy. But she was like typical inner city Irish

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Speaker 7: like tough broad put down a twelve pack, no problem.

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Speaker 5: Do any of your kids have a Boston accent. I

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Speaker 5: have a follow up question negative.

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Speaker 8: No, No, they're all like little They're all like this

506
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Speaker 8: cuts out like little nerds from the suburbs.

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Speaker 4: It is disappearing. Yeah, that is disappearing. That in fIF years,

508
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Speaker 4: if not fewer, it's going to be gone.

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Speaker 8: There will still be a couple of nuts. When you

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Speaker 8: hear someone with a really heavy one. And I know

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Speaker 8: probably people think you and I probably have a heavy

512
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Speaker 8: one when we're being ourselves, but compared to the people

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Speaker 8: that we know from the inner city, like being Shooter,

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Speaker 8: Mike E.

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Speaker 2: Lee.

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Speaker 7: I interviewed Bean Shooter on my podcast. Do you know him?

517
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Speaker 1: Like Lee?

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Speaker 7: Bean Shooter sixty nine crazy?

519
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Speaker 4: I wish my name was fucking Bean Shooter.

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Speaker 8: He was a crazy bastard from Lowell, like former former

521
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Speaker 8: heroin Attic bank robber like Mickey Wood got him sober

522
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Speaker 8: and now he runs a sober houses.

523
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Speaker 7: But he's crazy and him and I interviewed.

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Speaker 8: Johnny Bartola Bartola Matteo, Johnny Bartx, who's uh just got

525
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Speaker 8: out of just ind twenty seven straight years prison.

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Speaker 7: Former Hell's Angels.

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Speaker 8: Which as a kid, I didn't know any motorcycle gangs,

528
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Speaker 8: but he was in The Hell's Angels.

529
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Speaker 7: I had him on my podcast.

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Speaker 8: He actually stayed at my house already comes over and

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Speaker 8: I thought he went to jail for drugs and I

532
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Speaker 8: was like, so what did you How did you get

533
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Speaker 8: twenty seven years for drugs and goes.

534
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Speaker 7: I wasn't there for drugs. I killed someone.

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Speaker 2: I ran over a rival gang.

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Speaker 7: Member with my car.

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Speaker 8: He was on his motorcycle and I mowed him down.

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Speaker 8: My wife's like, the guy killed somebody. I'm like, yeah,

539
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Speaker 8: but he's from Boston. He's like, he's like one of

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Speaker 8: my people. Well, my kids are used to things like

541
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Speaker 8: that when they dad, your friend killed somebody.

542
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Speaker 7: I'm like, well, he probably deserved it.

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Speaker 5: So everything you want is on the other side of hard.

544
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Speaker 5: I'd imagine this book is everywhere if people want to

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Speaker 5: go get.

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Speaker 7: It, Yeah, every way and buy a books.

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Speaker 5: All right, Ken, right out, you're the man. We hope

548
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Speaker 5: to have you back on the show, if for no

549
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Speaker 5: other reason than to extend the life of a fucking

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Speaker 5: Boston accent my man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just I.

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Speaker 7: Love you guys.

553
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Speaker 8: Thanks man, Honestly, thank you from the bottom of my heart.

554
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Speaker 8: I really appreciate it. And I'm a huge fan. You

555
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Speaker 8: guys are killing it. I love the way you guys

556
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Speaker 8: bounce off each other. Anyone who's done anything in media

557
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Speaker 8: knows it ain't easy to find the right balance.

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Speaker 7: And John, keep up the great work man.

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Speaker 8: I love love your preparation for the UF, the events

560
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Speaker 8: and reading your intros. And Kenny keep beating people up.

561
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Speaker 8: And my friend Kenny will beat the ship on you, even.

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Speaker 4: If he made the wayward decision when he was a

563
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Speaker 4: boy to beat Kenny and not Ken. And thank you buddy.

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Speaker 4: We'll see us soon.

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Speaker 7: Appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 8: Ken.

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Speaker 5: Ride out with us live on the Anak and Florian podcast,

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Speaker 5: the podcast Jesus, the book is Everything you want is

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Speaker 5: on the other side of hard. Yeah, you can imagine

571
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Speaker 5: me and I. I have the book in the other room.

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Speaker 5: I'll get up and get it when we have a

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Speaker 5: commercial break. Actually that those don't exist. But I've been

574
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Speaker 5: shoving that book in my kid's face, like, hey, Riley,

575
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Speaker 5: love it. You know everything you want is on the

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Speaker 5: other side of heart. I know it's an inconvenient truth, right,

577
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Speaker 5: but everything you want is on the other side of heart.

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Speaker 5: All right, Longo's coming up in about five minutes, but

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Speaker 5: we got a lot.

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Speaker 4: To get into. Let us transition right now to headlines.

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Speaker 1: Headlines. It's time for headline.

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Speaker 3: I have some very urgent and important breaking.

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Speaker 1: New headlines on the John and Kenny Sumians contest.

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Speaker 5: We have UFC main events through June fourteenth. We have

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Speaker 5: a lot of UFC news to ingest ken flow. We'll

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Speaker 5: do some of this with Ray Longo certainly will table

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Speaker 5: any Al Jamain Sterling, use of Zalal discussion until the

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Speaker 5: star of the show joins us in about five minutes.

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Speaker 5: But you know about this weekend, Laron Murphy and movsar Ivloyev.

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Speaker 5: The guys are like forty and oh combined. Then we

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Speaker 5: go Israel Adasagni versus Joe Pifer in Seattle, Hanato Moikano

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Speaker 5: and Chris Duncan April fourth, April eleventh, is UFC three

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Speaker 5: twenty seven in Miami, Gilbert Burns Mike Malott in Winnipeg

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Speaker 5: April eighteenth, And then the new news started coming. Sterling

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Speaker 5: z Allal at the Apex April twenty five. Some of

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Speaker 5: these you've heard of. May second, Jack Dela Madelena versus

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Speaker 5: Carlos protests in Perth May ninth, UFC three twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: Chimayev versus Strickland, The most electrifying force in Mixed martial Arts,

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Speaker 5: returns May ninth in Newark, New Jersey, Arnold Allen and

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Speaker 5: Melchaziel Costa May sixteenth at the Apex, a dark week

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Speaker 5: May twenty third for the live production team, and then

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Speaker 5: it goes on from there. Our friend Blam Muhammad in

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Speaker 5: a main event game against Gabriel bon fiem June sixth,

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Speaker 5: and UFC Freedom two fifty the White House, and on

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Speaker 5: and on we go. So a lot to sort of

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Speaker 5: digest over the last week or so, Ken Flow, what

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Speaker 5: were your thoughts on on Dana White announcing you about

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Speaker 5: three months worth of shows here.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean some great fights obviously, a lot of

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Speaker 6: important fights for people that are either trying to get

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Speaker 6: the belt or you know, moving up the ranks, whatever

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Speaker 6: it is. But I think the one that stands out

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Speaker 6: to me, and we've been talking about for a while

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Speaker 6: was the Chimayav Strickland fight. I think that's something that

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Speaker 6: I'm very very excited about, especially off the heels of

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Speaker 6: Strickland's last win showing that he does know how to

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Speaker 6: approach very high pressure style grapplers and it's been a

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Speaker 6: while since since we've seen chimay have and I can't

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Speaker 6: wait to see him in action, So that that is

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Speaker 6: an amazing fight, but a lot of good main events

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Speaker 6: announced there.

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Speaker 5: So we've seen contenders like Blau Muhammad get to a

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Speaker 5: place where you have to wait for a title fight,

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Speaker 5: as he did. I think after he beat Gilbert Burns, right,

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Speaker 5: Nasordini Mavov got passed over in this equation. I believe

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Speaker 5: he has a head to head loss against Sean Strickland, right,

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Speaker 5: But sometimes as a promoter, right and Kenny and I right,

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00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 5: we talk about the antikin Florian Podcast Fighting Championships are

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Speaker 5: operating in a straight meritocracy. But I think even me,

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Speaker 5: you and me right, if this was the Anakin Florian

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Speaker 5: Fighting Championships, we would have said, hey, nass Ordine, we

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Speaker 5: have to make this fight between between Hamzat CHIMAIAV and

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Speaker 5: Sean Strickland, and Nasordine might even be like I understand,

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Speaker 5: I mean, this fight, Kenny.

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Speaker 4: Is just absolutely massive.

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Speaker 5: And sometimes the way the world works is that all

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Speaker 5: of a sudden, this fight's like six seven weeks away,

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Speaker 5: And I didn't mean to say six seven like this

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00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 5: is a massive, massive fight, and a lot of people,

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Speaker 5: I think, based upon what Sean Strickland did recently to

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Speaker 5: Anthony Fluffy Hernandez look like a world beater prior, a

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Speaker 5: lot of people think Sean is live. I haven't seen

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Speaker 5: a betting line, but a lot of people really think

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Speaker 5: Sean can get some things done.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, that's the one that jumps off for me.

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Speaker 6: You know, hundred percent, man, and you know so much

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Speaker 6: of it is. It's the story that kind of leads

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Speaker 6: to a lot of these fights. You have a history

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Speaker 6: of both these guys going at each other. They're former

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Speaker 6: training partners, you know, they've been calling each other out

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Speaker 6: for a little while now, and then with one fight, right, and.

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Speaker 4: Of course there's a series of fights prior.

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Speaker 6: But and once you establish your reputation, we talk about

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Speaker 6: this all the time, with one fight you can change

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Speaker 6: the whole trajectory of your career. And it wasn't just

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Speaker 6: a win over Anthony Fluffy Hernandez. It was a dominant

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Speaker 6: win over her in a very important spot. I think

658
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Speaker 6: that's what gave him the jump over a mob Bobham. Yes,

659
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Speaker 6: clearly he's a popular guy. A lot of people know

660
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Speaker 6: who Sean Strickland is or maybe maybe not famous, but

661
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 6: infamous in a lot of ways. But you know, all

662
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 6: of those factors led to him getting this spot, and

663
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 6: you can't fault the UFC. They're not you know, they're

664
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Speaker 6: trying to make the biggest fight possible, and right now,

665
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 6: that is the biggest fight that you can make.

666
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Speaker 5: So yeah, one of the biggest singularly, I think across

667
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Speaker 5: all divisions. Comes out to my minus five hundred shown

668
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 5: Strickland plus three point eighty on DraftKings sportsbook. Right now,

669
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Speaker 5: she might have seventy three percent on polymarket to be

670
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Speaker 5: the champ at the end of twenty twenty six. Thanks

671
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 5: for that nugget, Cody, all Right, very interesting things. And

672
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 5: then one week later, Arnold Allen and melchaziel Costa at

673
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 5: the APEX will go head to head with Ronda Rousi

674
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Speaker 5: and Gina Carano. And it's interesting some of the news

675
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 5: that has come out in terms of Ronda Rousi and

676
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 5: Gina Carano and that initially the this was something that

677
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Speaker 5: Dana White had talked to both women about and for

678
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Speaker 5: one reason or another, it didn't work in the UFC,

679
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Speaker 5: and now this fight is happening under the MVP banner

680
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 5: on Netflix, and it seems like Ronda Rowsey really wants

681
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Speaker 5: to make it MVP versus UFC in more ways than one.

682
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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure that say what you want about

683
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Speaker 5: sort of the UFC and its closest competitor. I'm not

684
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Speaker 5: even sure sort of whom that is. But the UFC

685
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Speaker 5: is operating in a world canning in which they put

686
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Speaker 5: on forty one live mixed martial arts events a year,

687
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Speaker 5: So I am excited to talk about.

688
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 4: Gina Carano versus Ronda Rousey.

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Speaker 5: I'm just not sure that I leaned totally into the

690
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Speaker 5: MVP versus UFC stuff that I'm seeing out there.

691
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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, I think that when you're comparing fights that

692
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Speaker 6: you can put together as far as you know, name, recognition,

693
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 6: power and all that stuff, fights that really matter, fights

694
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Speaker 6: that the fans really care about. Clearly, the roster on

695
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 6: the UFC compared to anyone else out there, you just

696
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 6: can't compare. The UFC is a juggernaut for a reason.

697
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Speaker 6: They've been in this business for so long. They know

698
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Speaker 6: it better than anybody else. That's just fact. You know,

699
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 6: everyone else is playing catch up, and you know not

700
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 6: to say that you can't make some big fights out there.

701
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Speaker 6: I think, you know, Toronto and Rowsy will be a

702
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 6: big fight. But of course, you know they're not in

703
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Speaker 6: their prime. We talked about that a couple of weeks ago.

704
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Speaker 6: They're not in that in their prime. I think it's

705
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Speaker 6: still interesting, but what interests being most is to see

706
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Speaker 6: athletes in their prime going at I'm a martial artist.

707
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Speaker 6: I love the fight game, but I want to see

708
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Speaker 6: who the better fighter is in their prime. That's what's

709
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Speaker 6: most intriguing to me. That's why the UFC, Wolf Thrive

710
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 6: or everyone else is kind of playing catch up. But

711
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 6: great for Coronto and Rowsy to get this big fight.

712
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 6: They're gonna get a huge payday. That is awesome. It's

713
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Speaker 6: great to see competition in the marketplace.

714
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Speaker 4: So you know, I wish them the best and we

715
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Speaker 4: will try to have one, if not both of them

716
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Speaker 4: on the show.

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Speaker 5: Now. I don't know how good they are relative to

718
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Speaker 5: their fighting prime. I think Gina might be forty three

719
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 5: and Ronda thirty eight or thirty nine. Forgive me, though,

720
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Speaker 5: for being excited at one point in the last six

721
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Speaker 5: months for a fight potentially between Ronda Rousey and Kayla Harrison.

722
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 5: And I know I'm not alone, Kenny, right, just because

723
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: of that ultimate competitor that resides within Ronda.

724
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Speaker 4: And so I don't know.

725
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Speaker 5: I don't know what the future holds for Ronda. You know,

726
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 5: I guess in some breath, it's encouraging to hear that

727
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 5: there were initial conversations with the UFC. I don't know

728
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Speaker 5: how many fights these women are in it for or

729
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: how many you know, I don't know if it's just

730
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Speaker 5: a one off. But anyway, the star of the show

731
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: is here and he's probably of a calm irritability on hold.

732
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Speaker 5: So let's get to the ray Long Go minute.

733
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Speaker 7: It's now time for the ray Long minute.

734
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Speaker 2: Hole in this fucking sus Long the Ray.

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Speaker 1: Long Minute, the John Nnik and Kenny Florian Podcast.

736
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Speaker 5: Where did you get have a young ray Long Go

737
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,600
Speaker 5: kicking a heavy bag? You look so young in that footage,

738
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 5: that's crazy.

739
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: It was like sixty one, and that's where you get

740
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 3: in your life when sixty starts to look young at stuff. Yeah, Kenny,

741
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 3: nothing good about it, nothing zero zero good.

742
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Speaker 4: You look good for sixty one, though, that's the That's

743
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 4: the thing.

744
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 3: Well, that was back then. Man, It's crazy, But anyway,

745
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: I listened to what you're saying I agree with Kenny

746
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 3: one hundred percent with the UFC stuff. I when I

747
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 3: was listening, I think that's kind of a new model.

748
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 3: You got to go through the UFC to build your

749
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: brand and then you know what you do with it afterwards,

750
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: you know, might might be there for you. But I

751
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: think it looks like, you know, between Anghano and Rowsy,

752
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,479
Speaker 3: the superstars will always have a place to go if

753
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 3: they could stay in shape and and do what they

754
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 3: want to do. But I think Rousey is going to

755
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 3: come out. I think at thirty eight, I think you know,

756
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: she did the right thing. She got out, She got

757
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 3: banged up a little bit, but she took the proper time.

758
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 3: I think she's a competitor. Man, I don't know what.

759
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: I could see her doing one or two fights because

760
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 3: she's looking better. It looks like she found a new team.

761
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Speaker 3: And I don't notice you guys, correct me if I'm wronged,

762
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 3: but if I'm wronged, but I think she looks like

763
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 3: she's she's got the intensity. She knows what it's like

764
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 3: to train at a high level. You know, from the

765
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: Olympic stuff, it looked like she got away from that

766
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: original team which didn't just didn't look like it was

767
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 3: doing the right thing by it. But I don't know.

768
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: I think you see a different person at thirty eight

769
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: today is still pretty good. Man, looks like she kept

770
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Speaker 3: herself in good shape.

771
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I wonder, and Ray, I wonder how much of

772
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 6: this is kind of a test for her and maybe

773
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 6: her team to see how she does out there to

774
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 6: get maybe another fighter, perhaps maybe.

775
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 4: Go back into the UFC for one more. Who knows so?

776
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 4: And Yeah, I'm curious.

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Speaker 3: Perfect and perfect, you know, because Toronto's older, she's got

778
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 3: name value. You know, she's still really really pretty. You know,

779
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 3: she's gonna bring a lot of eye bulls to the fight.

780
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: I think this is a perfect move for her. And

781
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: then we'll see what happens afterwards. Man, but uh, but

782
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: it is gonna it is. They both have such good

783
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 3: things going for their names that people are watching this

784
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,479
Speaker 3: fight for sure.

785
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 4: I need a breaking news thinger, Cody, do we have

786
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 4: a breaking.

787
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Speaker 3: News founder, Breaking news.

788
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Speaker 4: Platinum Mike Perry Nate Diaz on the Netflix Rousey Versus Corona. Wow,

789
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Speaker 4: Oh okay, okay, that's talking about.

790
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 5: Dirty Boxing Zone Platinum Mike Perry taking on Nate Diaz,

791
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 5: who is immortalized in the background behind me. All Right,

792
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 5: very interesting, I like to go. Yeah, so we shall see.

793
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 5: Ariel Helwani reporting that via Netflix Sports Platinum, Mike Perry,

794
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 5: Nate Diaz.

795
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 4: So yeah, a lot of interesting things going on in

796
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 4: the fight world.

797
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 5: And again when I see hashtag MVP versus UFC, I

798
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: don't know what MVP's long term agenda is when it

799
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 5: comes to mixed martial arts, but you know, the UFC

800
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 5: is a hippo, a beast in more ways than one,

801
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 5: and not for nothing Arnold Allen Melchaziel Costa. I mean,

802
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a little too embedded, but I'm very

803
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 5: excited for that fight. And too bad they don't get

804
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 5: twenty thousand fans. They get the UFC EIGHTPEX.

805
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 4: That'll be the the US.

806
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 3: On that same night, Raymond and Kenny again, I agree

807
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 3: one hundred percent with what they've done. They have their recipe,

808
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: and I'm gonna say Saturday Night was the recipe that

809
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: that company's looking for a lot of guys right off

810
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: to contend the series getting paid minimum money, and they

811
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 3: would duking it out. They were good fights. They were

812
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: good fights, and I think that's the that is the

813
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: model get the best fights for the lowest price. Obviously,

814
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 3: it's a business and it might suck for the people

815
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: coming up from now on, but that that was their model,

816
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 3: and I think Saturday night they really accomplished that. I mean,

817
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 3: how many guys were up the Contender series on that

818
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: that card, you know what I mean? So and not

819
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: that long ago. You know, it's not like, yeah, it

820
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: was ten years ago. I mean Valaos had to be

821
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 3: within three or four years. Three years and he looks

822
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 3: like he's on his way up to big things that

823
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: could look great. And they had a couple of guys

824
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 3: they never even heard of that were duking it out

825
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: that look good, so you know they were in a

826
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: good spot. Man.

827
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 5: Well there are even a few guys that are fighting

828
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: this coming weekend at the O two that I have

829
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 5: never seen compete nor heard of. When I went to

830
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 5: do a little bit of a breakdown today, would you

831
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: like to talk about Kevin Barschaos? You know, if you're

832
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 5: making the V a B in the last name, how

833
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 5: do you not go Kevin with a with a B?

834
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 3: Right?

835
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to get past this, Kenny, But what

836
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: is that?

837
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 3: What is the correct pronunciation?

838
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: You will play that ball for you.

839
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 5: Cody can get us the file and uh, I mean

840
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 5: it's Kevin checks or something. Cody, you can fucking trigger

841
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: that thing any time.

842
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 3: Hang On gays by Cheos, Well that's him trying to

843
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,280
Speaker 3: say is English, That doesn't mean.

844
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 4: Like Kevin.

845
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: Yeah right right, did you ever see Green Book? Mister

846
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Speaker 3: Fallon Sawliela, Mister okay, mister Valley Jose, thank you very much.

847
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 4: Valley joy O. Man, Kevin.

848
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 6: The Argentinian is a problem. Okay, this guy is uh,

849
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 6: he's an absolute sniper. I love that kind of pressure

850
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 6: style of allowing the other guy to throw in encountering

851
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 6: immediately after. I think there's very few guys in mixed

852
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 6: martial arts who can play that game at a high

853
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 6: level anyway, and Bajejos is one of them. I mean,

854
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 6: you know, it's not like he's just throwing one shot.

855
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 6: He's throwing combinations entyight with good defensive form and structure.

856
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 6: And you know, this is the next generation that's coming up, guys,

857
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 6: and these are the guys that you need to study

858
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 6: and and they're coming with something a bit new and

859
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 6: I was really impressed, you know, Emmett, He's got a

860
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 6: ton of experience and he's a very dangerous guy. But

861
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 6: he was exposed on Saturday night by a guy who

862
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 6: saw the punches coming and was countering with precision.

863
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 4: But je jus is a problem. He's he looked like

864
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: a special fighter that night.

865
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kenny, let me touch his first off. It's nothing new,

866
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: it's actually old. It's simple. It's really the basics done

867
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: at the highest level. Simple but not oh simple but

868
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: not easy. Well that I think people would make a

869
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 3: mistake if they're thinking like that. But the difference is

870
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 3: Valleos is inching his way in the other guy, but

871
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: he's got a lunge in. Everything he does is a

872
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 3: lunging attack. So this guy sees everything because he can't

873
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 3: inch his way in, he's got to run. And for

874
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,399
Speaker 3: the people out there being go back to basics, man,

875
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 3: they get all the crazy shit and throwing your right hand,

876
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: walking up the overhand. I mean, it's it's okay, it's good.

877
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 3: But with a guy that can sit in the pocket

878
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 3: and read that shit, you're never gonna win the fight. Never, never, ever,

879
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: I believe.

880
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 4: And that's what What about fainting?

881
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 5: What about fainting is very sophisticated agive for MMA strikers.

882
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: But Carlos Alberg. I remember Carlos Alberg in our first

883
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 5: fighter meeting. I said something complimentary and he's like, oh no,

884
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 5: you know, He's like, just if I could ever faint

885
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 5: even close to the way is he involved in these guys,

886
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 5: then I'll be something. He's fighting for the world title

887
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: here in a month, and we'll see how much he faints.

888
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 3: You know.

889
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 5: So what about fainting ray in terms of being a

890
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 5: nuanced part of MMA striking, because it is basic, but

891
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 5: you know there's a lot of it that isn't right.

892
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but I think you just gave a great example.

893
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 3: I mean, faint thing huge. I love it. I don't

894
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: think a guy should have a know way you're thinking

895
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 3: of hitting them. And I think even a lot of

896
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 3: guys that faint good. You don't even see it on TV,

897
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 3: Like it's hard to even pick up. That's that's how

898
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: technical the feints have to be. But even for Oldbert

899
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: to say that, he's right, guys, some guys even twitch

900
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,919
Speaker 3: and you're all over the place, and some guys can't

901
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 3: get you to get out of position no matter how

902
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 3: hard they try to fake. So that's a faint thing,

903
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: is something that has to be worked really over and

904
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 3: over again. I like in front of the mirror just

905
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 3: to get those shoulders twitch and eyebull fakes, level change, fate.

906
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: There's a million type of different things. But again, at

907
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,839
Speaker 3: the end of the day, I believe a guy there

908
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 3: should be a lot of misdirections. You know, a lot

909
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: of you think the jab is coming for your head

910
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: and at the last second that's hitting you in the

911
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 3: solar plexus, you know what I mean. You have to

912
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 3: drip some punches, you have to do a lot of things.

913
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: Man.

914
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 3: And I when I say basic, I mean it's been

915
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: around forever in boxing. That's where I think I'm coming from.

916
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: So you know, you take I think at this point

917
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: everybody in that UFC at a good level should be

918
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 3: able to walk into a boxing gym and go five

919
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: or six rounds with one of their good boxes. And

920
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 3: that's not an easy thing. Kenny, That's a different feeling, right,

921
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: I mean, you've been there. I'm sure it's it's totally different,

922
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 3: and I think people got away from that. They got

923
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 3: they do a lot of tricky things. Now it looks

924
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: great on camera. If you're building up your portfolio of

925
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 3: pad working but man, nothing's beating the basics, saying it, well, yeah,

926
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 3: what else do you want to see? The Pooria just

927
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 3: walking forward like you say, he's seeing those punches. He's

928
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 3: able to just slide out of the way and restart

929
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 3: his attack again. He's not running all over the place.

930
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,839
Speaker 3: He's not doing a lot of switch He's Yeah.

931
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 6: And the art of war, the art of war, no

932
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 6: matter what you're talking about, is all about subtlety. It's

933
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 6: sneaky showing a bunch of stuff. It's like, yes, you're

934
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 6: dead and you don't even know it. That's that's the key.

935
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,359
Speaker 6: And I think that's what Bajejos and these other guys

936
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:20,360
Speaker 6: to Puria. It's it is those guys are the masters

937
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 6: of the basics. And if you're kind of looking for

938
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 6: all these flashy techniques, once you get by that stuff,

939
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 6: if there's no foundation, you're gonna be losing shortly after.

940
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 3: And that's the key. We saw, Yeah, we've seen it

941
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: a million times. Cas. Yeah, you know, like we're at

942
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:39,239
Speaker 3: the point now, Like, uh, Kevin Aos whatever his name is,

943
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 3: he goes to the body and head beautifully. You know,

944
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: I watched some of his old fights, Like, so, what

945
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: are we gonna say, oh wow, look, this guy's special

946
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 3: because he's going to the body. It is special. But

947
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like that's a normal thing,

948
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 3: mixing up the body in the head. But when you

949
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: see it in Mma now it's refreshing. Like that's why

950
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 3: that uh that girl from the PFL the COVA, what's

951
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: her name, But she's digging those liver shots. Everybody's like, live,

952
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 3: this is awesome, and it is awesome, and that's what

953
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 3: everybody should be working on. Basic foundation. Then if you

954
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: want to hit a couple of tricky things in here

955
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 3: and there, beautiful just to mix it up a little bit,

956
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: get the guy thinking a little bit more. The more

957
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: you know angles you could throw it and maybe you

958
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 3: get them to walk into something. But man, I tell

959
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 3: you between the poorie or in this kid, I love it.

960
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: I just love it.

961
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: They're really Yeah, like a guy. I want to say,

962
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 3: basics is something that's a great correction and it's beautiful.

963
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: That's what it is really to me.

964
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 5: Well, we have talked in the past that you used

965
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 5: to teach let him clear his throat first, folks, Right, Yeah,

966
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 5: got coffee out of his led Zeppelin mug. So Dakota

967
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 5: ditch of His mom is a former student of here,

968
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 5: so I'm gonn book round.

969
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, not not a former student. I

970
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 3: cornered her for a fight at Lantic City. I knew

971
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: her from the she would come in and fight for us.

972
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 3: But no, not, definitely not a student. She was really

973
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 3: good and tough and Okay, well.

974
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 5: Maybe you can book her on the podcast, her and

975
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 5: her daughter something like that and make a goddamn contribution

976
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 5: to the show.

977
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: Is that what you want.

978
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 4: We'll do that in the future.

979
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 5: But right now, I gotta tell you about the new

980
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,640
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981
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,040
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982
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,360
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983
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,160
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984
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,319
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985
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986
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987
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988
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989
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990
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991
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992
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993
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994
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995
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996
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 4: I love this can. I'm gonna put a little in

997
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998
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1000
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Speaker 4: Get going, keep going, Ray, fix your fucking hair. I

1005
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 4: got the mint mocha over here. It's very good.

1006
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 3: Oh wait, wait, Kenny, wait, hold on, say Kenny, you

1007
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 3: got coffee too?

1008
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the localt.

1009
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: What a motherfucker. Men, I'm sitting here holding by cock.

1010
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 3: You guys are drinking the coffee. Where's my coffee?

1011
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 4: We will send you cases. You know what I'm gonna do?

1012
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 4: You know what I'm gonna do.

1013
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 5: What's the what's the address to your fucking gym? I'm

1014
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 5: gonna drive there this week. You're gonna be there Friday.

1015
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna drive to the gym this week. And if

1016
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 5: Steve Lee's there, I mean, I'm not gonna threaten anybody. No,

1017
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: I know, he would just look me out and submit

1018
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,280
Speaker 5: me and make me unconscious. And it's not a competitive

1019
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 5: MMA fight. But you know that blah muhammed stuff. He's

1020
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 5: gonna have to answer for in person if I show

1021
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 5: up a commercial Avenue Garden City, New York on fucking Friday.

1022
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 4: What man?

1023
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 3: What my second?

1024
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 5: Oh?

1025
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: What?

1026
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: I'm putting it in my phone right now?

1027
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: Ray? What? Okay? Good, we'll waiting. What so Friday?

1028
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 4: So one's more coffee? By the way, this one fifteen calories.

1029
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 3: Believe he's going again, and it's like.

1030
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: A pinch of sugar for me. This is like the

1031
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 4: perfect ice coffee.

1032
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: How about this? I don't get my cool fee. I

1033
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 3: don't want this promo during my segment.

1034
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 5: Right a, right, So this Friday, this Friday, March twentieth, Ray,

1035
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 5: where are you going to be at like ten o'clock

1036
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:48,479
Speaker 5: in the morning.

1037
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 4: Let me gues fucking sleep.

1038
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh wow, what a good guess, John.

1039
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 4: So what time will you be at the gym on

1040
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 4: one o'clock Friday?

1041
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: One o'clock? What time did you leave your house? At? Twelve?

1042
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 4: And I have children to pick up?

1043
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: I want to spend some time, So all right, I'll

1044
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 5: see if I can get out of picking up my

1045
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 5: kids on Friday?

1046
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 4: Is can you get there any earlier for you?

1047
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 7: One?

1048
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 4: Well, I don't need.

1049
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 3: This fucking guy. You know, Kenny, I love I love

1050
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 3: the pictures of you and Nicky when he sends him.

1051
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 4: I mean, that's inside baseball.

1052
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 3: Nobody fucking can't baseball.

1053
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 5: Well you you just say Kenny on a podcast that

1054
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 5: maybe you know what I mean. Listen to Kenny, I

1055
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 5: like the pictures of you and Nicky.

1056
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 3: What listen? You know, I figured while you were throwing

1057
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 3: your hissy fit, I had a chance to talk to

1058
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 3: Kenny alone.

1059
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh.

1060
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guess that makes it just acts like it's

1061
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 5: just the three of us, right.

1062
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: You know, how good was that video? How good was

1063
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 3: that video you guys put up? I woke up the

1064
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 3: other day to that thing.

1065
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 4: That's good.

1066
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 5: That thing was funny as you don't know what you're

1067
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 5: talking about, So would you like me as the host

1068
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 5: to explain what.

1069
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,840
Speaker 3: Because I'm an illiterate idiot, So you do it.

1070
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying that at all.

1071
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 5: So, and by the way, I just have to say

1072
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 5: to our all, the Smoke Fight team, Nate Bronson and

1073
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: everybody else on up and Down, just, uh, in terms

1074
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 5: of sort of finding the voice of this show, in

1075
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 5: terms of the content and getting that out to the masses,

1076
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 5: I just think you all have done an outstanding job

1077
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 5: and we were very careful for that effort.

1078
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

1079
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,439
Speaker 5: But Ray's talking about a clip where, yeah, Ray sort

1080
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 5: of said that Dana didn't love the BMF title fight

1081
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,319
Speaker 5: or was put off by it. And I was suggesting

1082
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 5: that because Dana said at the postfight press conference that

1083
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 5: you still got to win the fight, that maybe he

1084
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 5: found that fight less off putting, and our team creatively

1085
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 5: found the clip of him in fact suggesting that he

1086
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 5: was put off by it.

1087
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 4: And I mean, Ray seems like a guy who is

1088
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: and I told you so, guy that likes to be right.

1089
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 5: So congratulations, I'm rarely right, But I'm just I just

1090
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 5: said that was really funny the way they spliced it.

1091
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 4: It was funny.

1092
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: Aina came through like a chimp. Love them came through

1093
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 3: like a jam. Yeah.

1094
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,400
Speaker 5: So you know, sometimes I wonder if our audience and

1095
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 5: we will talk to Ray about Yusuf Zilal and Uh

1096
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: and Al Jamaine Sterling in that main event that was

1097
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 5: announced since we were last on the air, But sometimes

1098
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: I wonder Kenny like Jillian Robertson versus amandolemos Right, I

1099
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 5: really enjoyed Gillian Robertson coming out to P I M

1100
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,360
Speaker 5: P and lip syncing or whatever she's doing. And I

1101
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 5: really enjoy her grappling game, and she does fight to

1102
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,359
Speaker 5: finish and she strikes on the ground and she tries

1103
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 5: to incorporate elbows, but it's hard in the entertainment business. Right,

1104
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 5: this is five straight wins. I really enjoyed the fight.

1105
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 5: She's fighting a former world title challenger. She lost the

1106
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,720
Speaker 5: first round, run the last two. I think her cause

1107
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 5: should be champion. You know, I'm not sure if she's

1108
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 5: going to get the title fight, but you know, I

1109
00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 5: enjoyed the fight maybe more than you know, the average show.

1110
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: What were your thoughts on the call main event moment? Yeah,

1111
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:02,919
Speaker 4: I'll listen.

1112
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,800
Speaker 6: I thought that Gillian showed a lot of toughness, a

1113
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 6: lot of resilience, and showed.

1114
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,399
Speaker 4: You know, she knows how to adjust. Listen to Dean

1115
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 4: in the corner.

1116
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 6: I thought Dean did an awesome job of settling her

1117
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 6: down and getting back to the basics of what she

1118
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 6: needed to do. I thought the timing on some of

1119
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 6: her takedowns were really really good at some critical points

1120
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 6: when she needed it. I thought her control was phenomenal,

1121
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 6: and she exposed you know, that weakness of Amanda Lemos

1122
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 6: which has always kind of been there being on her back.

1123
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 6: But man, Lemos has got some serious firepower on the feet.

1124
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 6: And I was nervous for Robertson in round one, but

1125
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 6: again made the right adjustments and came away with the wind.

1126
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,840
Speaker 6: So maybe not as exciting as she wanted to be.

1127
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 6: But also Lemos is no joke on the ground either.

1128
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 6: She does have some good defense, but Robertson a little

1129
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 6: bit too much.

1130
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought I might take away as she's tougher

1131
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 3: than I thought, because Lamos can hit. She's got some

1132
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 3: serious power for a girl that size, and she was

1133
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 3: able to absorb those punches and still, you know, not

1134
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 3: get thrown off a game plan. And you know, she

1135
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,959
Speaker 3: got what you want. I'd like to see a little

1136
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 3: improvement in a stand up because it looks a little awkward,

1137
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 3: you know, like when she's up, but her ground game

1138
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 3: is phenomenon. Like again, five straight wins, she gets what

1139
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 3: she wants. Uh. I think over Mackenzie Dern that that

1140
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: would that would be a nice fight, you know.

1141
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 5: So Yusuf Silal and Aljamaine Sterling in the main event.

1142
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 5: So I guess they're not freezing your guy out and

1143
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 5: you're not right about everything, all right.

1144
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 3: Uh uh, it depends on what you consider freezing. But

1145
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 3: we're gonna do this right here. I was joking. You

1146
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 3: don't think they're freezing the guy out.

1147
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 5: No, I'm just messing around. I don't that Joe popped

1148
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 5: into my brain and then my mouth, and I regret

1149
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 5: saying it. I'd like to talk about Yeah, you got

1150
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 5: a big challenge in front of you guys, but you

1151
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 5: got the human backpack. So I I without even there's

1152
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 5: no betting line right now, but uh yeah, I think

1153
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,360
Speaker 5: there's gonna be value on al Joe. You know.

1154
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,479
Speaker 3: Oh, I think, well, who somebody just put up something

1155
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,399
Speaker 3: I saw on the screen the ROC whatever the fuck

1156
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: that is said somebody's favorite.

1157
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's Cody was born in nineteen ninety three.

1158
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 5: I couldn't tell you about rock so right, but you

1159
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 5: guys like them being underdog because of Yusuf's obvious momentum.

1160
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 3: So I tell you, man, al Jo, I don't know

1161
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 3: why they don't give this guy to create. He deserves

1162
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 3: al Jo to me honestly, he's getting better and not

1163
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 3: that I'm out there with him, but mentally he's as

1164
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: he's maturing. I think he even understands this game even better.

1165
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 3: And I think he's gonna it's allowing him to free

1166
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: himself up. He's got nothing to prove. Al Jo always

1167
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: always had a super amount of talent. I don't think personally,

1168
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:45,719
Speaker 3: even standing up boys. I don't even think we saw

1169
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 3: past forty percent or what he could do. And it

1170
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: sounds like now he's you know, like he's got to

1171
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:52,840
Speaker 3: be careful. I don't I'm proven too much, but this

1172
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 3: is a good guy because he's not a power player

1173
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 3: at all. But I think Aljo's and first off, if

1174
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: I love Zalali but just a nice kid, this is nothing.

1175
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: But I just think al Jo's better than him any everywhere.

1176
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 3: I just what I don't like about the fighter is

1177
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:12,239
Speaker 3: I believe, you know, if Aljo wins, they're gonna say, okay,

1178
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,319
Speaker 3: so what you know, you beat this guy. But if

1179
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 3: Zilal wins, they'll use that, you know, he's a former champion,

1180
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 3: and they'll move him up the line. That's the only

1181
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 3: thing I don't like. I think al Jo deserved a

1182
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 3: bigger name for that reason. But I don't think that's

1183
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, freezing them out. Why is he fighting?

1184
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: Why is he fighting? Yeah? He Rodriguez Whisney fighting a lot,

1185
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 3: but a lot of the guys above that just tell

1186
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 3: me why that's not The guy's a former champion. Yeah

1187
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 3: he lost to O'Malley his last fight, and you know

1188
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 3: the Mozart fight. You could flip a coin on and

1189
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 3: that guy's moving up. So I don't know why he's

1190
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 3: not getting the big fights. And I think the reason is,

1191
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 3: you know, because he's getting older and I don't think

1192
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 3: they could squeeze They don't think they could squeeze that

1193
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:54,839
Speaker 3: much more out of him.

1194
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 5: Well, I do believe that if he can beat Yusuf Zilal,

1195
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 5: he will at the very least in a title eliminator.

1196
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 5: If not be on the short list to potentially fight

1197
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 5: a very active champion in Alexander Volkanowski. And you just

1198
00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 5: don't know how healthy the winner of mob sorr Ivloyev

1199
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 5: and Laron Murphy, which beckons this weekend is going to be.

1200
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,680
Speaker 4: But yeah, a lot of moving parts. But I don't

1201
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: don't get a twistling.

1202
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 5: I think he has a great chance to win that fight, Kenny,

1203
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 5: But there are obvious reasons why use this zilaal the younger,

1204
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 5: seemingly more prime guy, like not to suggest that al

1205
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: Jo isn't on the ascent in terms of being a

1206
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 5: better fighter, But I was just merely suggesting that Zilau

1207
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 5: deserves the distinction as the favorite because of the current momentum.

1208
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 4: But I would argue it to pick him fight.

1209
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 6: You know, I think it's gonna be really close. I

1210
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 6: think it's gonna be a really close fight. I think

1211
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 6: Zilal you know, has proved himself as a striker. He

1212
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 6: showed that he knows how to grapple. Obviously you look

1213
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 6: at his last couple of fights and those results. So

1214
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 6: I think it's really interesting. I do think al Jo's

1215
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,799
Speaker 6: style is one that can give a lot of people

1216
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 6: trouble just you know, based on the fact that he

1217
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 6: has a very unorthodox striking approach, he knows how to

1218
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 6: get in on those legs. In preparation for this show,

1219
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 6: I just saw his fight against Ivloyev, which was, you know,

1220
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 6: an awesome fight that was super close that to me,

1221
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,879
Speaker 6: came down to the last maybe two minutes of that fight.

1222
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 6: I think that's where Ivloyev, you know, went a hair

1223
00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 6: past al Jo to get that decision win. But you know,

1224
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 6: so Aljo's right at the top, He's right there. I

1225
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 6: think if he beats the Laal, you could argue he

1226
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 6: can get the next next shot.

1227
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 4: Will he get it? I don't know. I kind of

1228
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 4: agree with with what Ray said there. You know, if

1229
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 4: he beats the Lall.

1230
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 6: They'll just give him someone else. They say it won't

1231
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 6: be a big deal. But I think people in the

1232
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 6: know know that the Law is a very very good fighter.

1233
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:45,480
Speaker 6: I think on fight night, this is guy. This is

1234
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 6: a guy that I think can give a lot of

1235
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 6: people trouble. So curious to see how al Jo cuts

1236
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 6: off the cage against someone like Zilal who has pretty

1237
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 6: decent footwork, and see how he nullifies that striking but

1238
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,839
Speaker 6: I think it is a tough matchup for Zilul. But yeah,

1239
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 6: I mean with what Cody posted, maybe based on that momentum,

1240
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 6: wouldn't be surprised that he's all open up as a

1241
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 6: favorite anyway.

1242
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think it's going to be as

1243
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 3: big of a favorite as well.

1244
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 4: I don't think so either.

1245
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't see that. And it's how

1246
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: does Zilal cut off the ring on al Jo to

1247
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, go both ways? Yeah, it could be that

1248
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: type of thing also, but uh and and again nothing

1249
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 3: taking nothing away from Zilla is a really good kid,

1250
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: always happy when I see him. Oh what a great

1251
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 3: personality the kid has. So we're just talking fighting and that.

1252
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't sure personality is involved, because obviously, oh you do.

1253
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 5: You do want to get personalities involved because you love

1254
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 5: human beings. Like I knew that you couldn't get through

1255
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 5: it without wax and poetic about how much you love

1256
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 5: Yusuf Zilala.

1257
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: It's just a nice kid. But you know, al Jo's

1258
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,240
Speaker 3: my guy once that door of.

1259
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 4: Course, of course, no, Yusef really he does.

1260
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 5: He has an infectious smile about him, and uh, you know,

1261
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 5: ray Is actually could not despite some of the exterior,

1262
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 5: you know, and he and he.

1263
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,480
Speaker 3: You know, we got cut from the UFC's I love

1264
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 3: the stories on a roll. You know, I don't know,

1265
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 3: but that's going to be a good fight. And I

1266
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 3: think I just I like where Aljoe's heads at right now.

1267
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 3: I think he understands, yeah, even his position in the UFC.

1268
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 3: I think he understands a lot of things. But you know,

1269
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: just from a business standpoint, is is a guy gets older,

1270
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 3: you're going to make a guy a champ at forty

1271
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 3: how many you can't build them the way they want

1272
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 3: to build them. I think. So as the years go on,

1273
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 3: it gets a little dicey. You got you know, Vallejos,

1274
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 3: the guy how old is say twenty three?

1275
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 4: Right now?

1276
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,400
Speaker 5: Guy, you want to put some stock in Joe Murphy,

1277
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 5: you know, Oh my gosh, right, yeah, right, you got.

1278
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 3: Some young guys that they're going to have to start

1279
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 3: building because they can get more out of it. And

1280
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 3: for the price I'm sure they're paying these guys, it's

1281
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 3: just a home run bottom line wise. And I think

1282
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 3: that's what we're seeing is it's it's become very bottom

1283
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 3: line oriented. And that's fine. It's a business. I got

1284
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 3: absolutely no problem with it. Only I don't like be

1285
00:58:58,200 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 3: I wouldn't want to be on the other end of it.

1286
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 3: But you got to understand it. From a business, you

1287
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 3: gotta your slave to the bottom line when you have shareholders.

1288
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 5: You know what I think I'm gonna do next Monday,

1289
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 5: March twenty third, Maybe I'll come do the podcast from

1290
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 5: your gym instead of driving their Friday, so.

1291
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,920
Speaker 3: We'll just have good How good would that be? All

1292
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: the guys that did gym be so happy when you

1293
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 3: come in.

1294
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 5: Some of them might be happy, all of them. Yeah,

1295
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 5: we'll see who runs up, get done up, run up,

1296
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 5: get done up? See who runs up?

1297
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: I like it. That's your shirt. Run up, get done.

1298
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 4: Up, run up, get done up.

1299
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 5: James Vick taught me that UFC veteran Ultimate Fighter lives James.

1300
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 4: Vick, run up, get done up.

1301
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 5: No, you run up right like people say, oh fuck around,

1302
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 5: find out now run up, get fucking done up.

1303
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 7: You know.

1304
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,640
Speaker 5: I mean, if you have any damn weights, featherweights, you

1305
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 5: know they get throw me the octagon and teach me

1306
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 5: a thing or two.

1307
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 3: Right, ray, bring you bring your gym stuff when you

1308
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: come down to.

1309
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,840
Speaker 4: All right, Yeah, you're gonna put you through something. Yeah,

1310
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,960
Speaker 4: I had a hot yoga class this morning. My man,

1311
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 4: how that was that? That's what I've been doing. That's

1312
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 4: like what I do my primary workout.

1313
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 3: You know, that's great for you.

1314
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 5: Sometimes they're high intensity interval training classes at Bay Yoga Joint,

1315
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 5: but no, it's really.

1316
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 3: Good for you. Hope they I hope they're going over defense.

1317
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 3: When a guy at texts you with a yoga.

1318
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 5: Hey, all right, well you can teach me some self defense.

1319
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 5: No live from Long gos m m A and Garden

1320
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 5: City near Man, come show up?

1321
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 7: Or no?

1322
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 3: What was? Oh? Let's do it?

1323
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, I can't believe I'm doing Let's do

1324
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 5: a live show. I can't believe I'm fucking committing to this.

1325
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,520
Speaker 5: All right, March twenty third, we'll be live at noon

1326
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 5: from law.

1327
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 4: You got to get to the gym at eleven four

1328
01:00:58,120 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 4: for you for this.

1329
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 3: I'll get to in couch like Kenny. And let's show

1330
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,919
Speaker 3: that we're doing, show that we have a budget. Let's

1331
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: show that we have a budget. Let's show that we

1332
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 3: have a I feel like Sarah, I'm just going to

1333
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 3: repeat myself two hundred times in a row. But can

1334
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 3: we fly? Kenny? In. Wouldn't that be nice?

1335
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, we do. We we fired Ian Parker. There's extra money.

1336
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 8: By Ray.

1337
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 4: Thank you, Ray.

1338
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 3: No, I can't wait. Next Monday, I will.

1339
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 5: Be live at your gym, and uh, perhaps you have

1340
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 5: some guys who could who who could help us technically

1341
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 5: facilitate things just so we make sure that it's still presentable.

1342
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: Lot of technical wizards down there, and I'll.

1343
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 5: Bring it eight cases of throwing sport cop Yeah, God John, Bye, Ray,

1344
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 5: take it easy, guys, love you guys. Take you Ray

1345
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 5: Longo minute every week here on the Anakin Floran Podcast,

1346
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 5: and we're going to go right out to the guest

1347
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 5: line and uh, maybe ratchet the class up a little

1348
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:56,440
Speaker 5: bit in the room.

1349
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 4: Perhaps not. This is a renowned jiu.

1350
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 5: Jitsu practitioner, teacher, manicure of the Brazilian jiu Jitsu Game,

1351
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 5: top Flight analyst, the founder and commissioner of the PGF,

1352
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 5: the Professional Grappling Federation b Mac Brandon mccafine.

1353
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 4: Long overdue, my man, Great to see you front and center.

1354
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 2: How we feeling good to see you, man. I feel

1355
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: like I've been looking riding your eyes for the last

1356
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 2: couple of weeks though. Yeah, it's a trip.

1357
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 5: Well, if you don't know what Bmack is talking about,

1358
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 5: my twin brother, Jason Anark is part of the broadcast

1359
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 5: team and you guys are in season. So thank you,

1360
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 5: I guess on behalf of the jiu jitsu world for

1361
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 5: everything you've done for this sport. I know you're trying

1362
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 5: to leave it in a better place than you found it.

1363
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 5: What can you tell us about the PGF in the

1364
01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 5: middle of the season and what makes your federation so

1365
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 5: great and so unique? And making a guy like my

1366
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 5: twin brother talk about you as the greatest commissioner in sport.

1367
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 7: Well, you know what, I was.

1368
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 2: Gonna say something nasty about your brother, but I'm gonna

1369
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,320
Speaker 2: let it slide because of that. Also, what's up, Kenny?

1370
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 4: What's up?

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01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 8: Man?

1372
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 2: We got to work together at ADC. See the first

1373
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 2: year when they went to the Thomas and Mack you

1374
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: were running the broadcast from the flow zone, and then

1375
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: I was in there on the on the actual like

1376
01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: a commentary booth man. So legend this is a huge

1377
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 2: deal for me.

1378
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 7: Guys.

1379
01:03:14,600 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 2: Let's go i'ment on the Anak and Florian show.

1380
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 4: Yeah times, I tried to get long go out so

1381
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 4: I could come to you close.

1382
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 2: Dude. The PGF is. I like to think of it

1383
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:30,960
Speaker 2: as we're trying to build the NFL of jiu jitsu, Like,

1384
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 2: how can we structure jiu jitsu in such a way

1385
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: that it mirrors what the big, multi billion dollar sports

1386
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 2: are doing. It's leagues and teams instead of the one

1387
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:47,400
Speaker 2: off you know, like the way that combat sports works.

1388
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 2: It's the it's the fight night model, it's the pay

1389
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 2: per view model. Let's build up this event, Let's get

1390
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 2: as many people to watch it as we can. We

1391
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: tell the story of the athlete tonight, and then when

1392
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 2: do we see him again. I don't know, but he's

1393
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 2: back to the gym and just grinding for whenever that comes.

1394
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: You know, like no other sport in the world works

1395
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 2: like that. It works with a league, and it works

1396
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 2: with teams, and it works with seasons and stats and

1397
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,160
Speaker 2: all of the cool things that sports nerds love. Since

1398
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,080
Speaker 2: I grew up as a regular old sports nerd, yeah,

1399
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 2: I didn't get into martial arts until I'm a young adult,

1400
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 2: and so I missed as somebody who fell in love

1401
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 2: with jiu jitsu deeply. I still missed that part of sports,

1402
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 2: and I was like, well, look, we got to find

1403
01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: a way to try to bring the two together and

1404
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 2: make them fall in love. And so this is my

1405
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 2: attempt to do that and to you know, create an

1406
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: actual career path for jiu jitsu athletes where they're not

1407
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 2: you know, eating ramen noodles and sleeping on foo times.

1408
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I remember that life well man.

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01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 6: Now, Brandon Neal, I feel like you kind of have

1410
01:04:56,840 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 6: hacked the rules system a little bit because you know,

1411
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,040
Speaker 6: I was watching the other night and it seems like

1412
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 6: the athletes are really going forward and sometimes you just

1413
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 6: have athletes that you know are going to do that,

1414
01:05:06,600 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 6: but I think a lot of times they're kind.

1415
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,360
Speaker 4: Of beholding to the rule set and the enforcement of

1416
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 4: the referee.

1417
01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 6: And I think you found a really nice recipe for

1418
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 6: that to kind of push the athletes to actually have

1419
01:05:18,440 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 6: action pack matches.

1420
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:22,840
Speaker 2: Why do you think that is, Well, it's exactly what

1421
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 2: you said. Well, really it's two things. Number one, it's

1422
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:31,040
Speaker 2: a very unique rule set that it's meant to force offense.

1423
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: You know, we think jiu jitsu is beautiful, Kenny. You

1424
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 2: know jiu jitsu as deeply as anyone. I'm an absolute

1425
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu nerd. Jiu jitsu is beautiful, but a lot

1426
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 2: of times the things that make jiu jitsu so effective,

1427
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 2: you can't see those on the screen, Like I can't

1428
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 2: see how well you're connected. I can't see, you know,

1429
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 2: this little grip that you've got fighting on the inside.

1430
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 2: And then if you're doing it in the gee, like

1431
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: the subtleties are even harder to see, you know. And

1432
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: so one of the things that we wanted to do

1433
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 2: was push people towards offense at all costs, you know,

1434
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: like in the NFL, if they have pass interference for

1435
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: a reason, right, like you would never complete a pass

1436
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: if I could just bash you at the line and

1437
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 2: drag you down all the way down the field. We

1438
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 2: got to give the guy a chance to catch the

1439
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 2: ball and put some points on the board, because that's

1440
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: what the people came to see. And so we try

1441
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 2: to structure the rules set in such a way. We

1442
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: stole the shot clock idea from the NBA. If there's

1443
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 2: twenty seconds and it's not a stalling penalty, right, it's

1444
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:40,439
Speaker 2: an inactivity penalty. So if we see things slowing down

1445
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 2: and making mother in laws and grandma's tune out at all,

1446
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 2: you're going on the shot clock. So and then compressing

1447
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: the action down into six minutes is another big part

1448
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,480
Speaker 2: of it. Mostits matches are much longer, but an athlete

1449
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 2: only has one hundred percent of himself to give, and

1450
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:01,560
Speaker 2: if we stretch that out over ten minutes or sometimes

1451
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 2: in jiu jitsu, even longer, he still only got one

1452
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 2: hundred percent to give, and he's gonna find his places

1453
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 2: to rest. We're like, let's just take the places to

1454
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:13,120
Speaker 2: rest out, compress the match down. It's submission only six

1455
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 2: points for a choke, three points for a joint lock.

1456
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: If you can't finish the guy, both of them get

1457
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,640
Speaker 2: a zero towards the playoff. And I think that's a

1458
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 2: big part of it.

1459
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 4: It's been rented.

1460
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 6: You have different cities that are represented right now, which

1461
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 6: I love. What are some of those cities And do

1462
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 6: you see the league expanding into other areas, other states,

1463
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:34,960
Speaker 6: other cities.

1464
01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1465
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 2: Man, So right now we've got four established franchise teams.

1466
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: We've got the Las Vegas Kings, We've got the Alabama Twisters,

1467
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: we've got the Philadelphia Phenoms, and we just added the

1468
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 2: Colorado Wolverines right before the season started. It looks like

1469
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 2: we're going to be adding Saint Louis before the end

1470
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,760
Speaker 2: of not into the season, but they'll be on the

1471
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,320
Speaker 2: roster coming up for next season. And breaking news, I

1472
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 2: think we're going to have our first international team WOW

1473
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 2: next season as well. So already stretching out, I got

1474
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: probably fifteen different cities that are showing interest in this

1475
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,640
Speaker 2: next expansion round. We won't go past eight for the

1476
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,799
Speaker 2: next season, but the ultimate goal is thirty two teams.

1477
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

1478
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:24,160
Speaker 5: So Kenny and I need to figure out a way

1479
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 5: to align with some investors, right because I don't have

1480
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 5: the money to buy a PGF franchise. But the dream

1481
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 5: for me has always been to, you know, if Kenny

1482
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 5: and I can't do the Anakin Florian Fighting Championships, I suppose, right,

1483
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 5: but to somehow work for a team or be a

1484
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 5: part of a team.

1485
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:46,839
Speaker 4: So yeah, maybe there's a way for Kenny's and Charlotte.

1486
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 4: I'm in New York.

1487
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 5: I'm just thinking out loud. It's not a conversation I

1488
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:52,080
Speaker 5: haven't had with Jay before. My brother obviously be Mack,

1489
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:54,560
Speaker 5: you know, but it's really exciting to think about. So

1490
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 5: if people wanted to somehow invest in the PGF and

1491
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 5: help you get to the next level or be a

1492
01:08:59,360 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 5: part of a team.

1493
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 4: How would they even go about doing that?

1494
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: Oh, here's the tried and true method right here. Call

1495
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:12,519
Speaker 2: you boy, Yeah, I mean, yeah, just reach out to me.

1496
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: Let's start a conversation.

1497
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 4: The thing.

1498
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 2: We have to make sure that we're bringing in the

1499
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 2: right people for this thing.

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01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 7: It can't just be.

1501
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,840
Speaker 2: Ah, this guy's got the dollars to try to pull

1502
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 2: something off. It's got to be people to understand the

1503
01:09:26,720 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 2: vision of not just where we want jiu jitsu to go,

1504
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 2: but where it's been so we don't make some of

1505
01:09:31,560 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 2: those same mistakes again. And so if we can get

1506
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: the right people in the right positions, I really think

1507
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 2: that there's just no stopping this thing, to be honest

1508
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 2: with Obviously, I'm gonna say that, dude, I'm out here

1509
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 2: promoting it. But I mean I really, honestly just tried

1510
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 2: to build the thing that everybody needed and wanted, you know.

1511
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 2: And so yeah, if we can get other people that

1512
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 2: have that vision, I think that's really important. I think

1513
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 2: that culture, building the culture the right way is just

1514
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:05,760
Speaker 2: as important as building the finances the right way.

1515
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 4: Well, you are doing it the right way.

1516
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 5: Because my twin brother, unlike me, has never even put

1517
01:10:10,560 --> 01:10:12,519
Speaker 5: a gee on, and he does not shut the fuck

1518
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:13,680
Speaker 5: up about the PGF.

1519
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 6: Right.

1520
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 2: I'm trying to strangle him at every turn, and he's dude,

1521
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: I can't.

1522
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:20,559
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1523
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,160
Speaker 5: No, I mean, we don't do jiu jitsu because it's

1524
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,560
Speaker 5: not the gentle art, and we're trying to, you know,

1525
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 5: preserve some type of shape and we would get injured

1526
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 5: every step of the way.

1527
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 4: But that's got to say.

1528
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 5: We are joined by Brandon mccatherine, founder commissioner of the

1529
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:36,639
Speaker 5: Professional Grappling Federation, and I would say, on a serious note,

1530
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 5: I would encourage, if not implore, you folks this Wednesday

1531
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 5: to watch the PGF because there's so much that goes

1532
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,680
Speaker 5: into it, and certainly Jason's part on this broadcast is

1533
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 5: to help sort of be a liaison and bridge that

1534
01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 5: gap to the sports fan who would be intrigued like

1535
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 5: I am about the draft and the franchises and all

1536
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 5: of those things that would compel me. But in terms

1537
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 5: of just a jiu jitsu per who maybe watches some

1538
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 5: of your competitors, what do you think is the part?

1539
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 5: I mean, there are money bags that get thrown on

1540
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 5: the map, there's flat what do you think is the

1541
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 5: most unique part of the rule set that makes the

1542
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 5: PGF stand up.

1543
01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 2: It's the speed of it. Man, It's it's no question

1544
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 2: about it. It's the fastest and most exciting form of

1545
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu that you can watch right now or participate in.

1546
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: And it's the atmosphere of it too. Like you know,

1547
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,479
Speaker 2: we don't sell tickets. It's a totally private event, like

1548
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 2: you have to be invited to come. We sit couches

1549
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:32,920
Speaker 2: on the map. We don't have a pit. We have

1550
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 2: a people pit with couches and hoist codes.

1551
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1552
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,600
Speaker 2: You know, even if you think it's you don't like it,

1553
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,120
Speaker 2: at least you know it's the PGF when you look

1554
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 2: at it. There's no question about what am I right?

1555
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 2: PGF and I really got to shout out Zoltan and

1556
01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:52,560
Speaker 2: Grace and Gracie for that. Those are They came in

1557
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: after season five. Meet Myself and Keelan were the founders.

1558
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 2: We did it out here in Decatur, Alabama. And then

1559
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:03,160
Speaker 2: Zoltan Bathroom, who is the founding member and the guitar

1560
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: player for Five Finger Death Punch. He came in. He's

1561
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: a jiu jitsu and judo guy his whole life. He's

1562
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 2: like you know what, I think that these guys kind

1563
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 2: of figured out the rule set. Let me put some

1564
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:19,080
Speaker 2: lipstick on this pig and we'll bring it to Las Vegas. Sorry,

1565
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm a redneck. I say things like that.

1566
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:25,280
Speaker 4: Redneck glory.

1567
01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 2: And then having Grace get involved as one of the

1568
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 2: owners as well. She's the granddaughter of Carlos Gracie. You know,

1569
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:35,200
Speaker 2: she has the connections in the jiu jitsu and fight

1570
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 2: world that go very I mean as deep as they

1571
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: can go. You know, we got Hoys Gracie putting on

1572
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 2: the championship belt. So I think there's just a lot

1573
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 2: of very interesting things about the PGF that nobody else

1574
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,360
Speaker 2: has really thought of to try to bring into the sport,

1575
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: because it's kind of a crazy undertaking, especially for somebody

1576
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,800
Speaker 2: like like, I'm not a promoter, dude, I just I

1577
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 2: love jiu jitsu. I just want to leave it in

1578
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 2: a better place than I found it, you know what

1579
01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 2: I mean. So I think just trying to set things

1580
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: up so it's really a great experience for the athletes

1581
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:13,479
Speaker 2: themselves first, and then for the fans, and then to me,

1582
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 2: especially for people who don't know what jiu jitsu is, Like,

1583
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 2: how can we make this feel like real sports. So

1584
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 2: that the grandma that is a role Tide, like she's

1585
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 2: an Alabama fan screaming role Tide, but she never played

1586
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 2: for Alabama, Like I need fans like that. I never

1587
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,560
Speaker 2: played the sport, but I get it, you know, And

1588
01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 2: so we had to try to twist it to where

1589
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: they can get it. And I think the speed of

1590
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: it is really the thing that does.

1591
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,200
Speaker 4: Oh that's great. The quick matches and it's very cool.

1592
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 5: And the season hits hard right successive weeks back to

1593
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 5: back to back to back, and the PGF is doing

1594
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 5: some big things.

1595
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 4: You know, there are some false reports out there that you.

1596
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 5: Know, Kenny Florian's rate per broadcast might have been prohibitive

1597
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:56,759
Speaker 5: to be added to the PGF team. It was actually

1598
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 5: a schedule that got in the way. I think Ken

1599
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 5: Flow is a very busy man, but I would love

1600
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 5: to hear ken Fall on the sticks. Unless you think

1601
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,200
Speaker 5: you can build a franchise around me and Ken Fall

1602
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,719
Speaker 5: on the eastern seaboard of the United States of America.

1603
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:09,599
Speaker 5: We can take that conversation offline.

1604
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 2: Uh well, let me turn it over to Kenny right here,

1605
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:15,040
Speaker 2: because the jobs is he's just gotta say I want

1606
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 2: it because I would love to, man, I would love

1607
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 2: to get off the broadcast. Dude, I got stuff to do,

1608
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1609
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:22,040
Speaker 4: I'm sure you're a busy man.

1610
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 5: Absolutely well, maybe Glover to Schera, who's up the road

1611
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 5: here in Danbury, Connecticut will be the Connecticut Anaconda's that's

1612
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:29,519
Speaker 5: a good suggestion.

1613
01:14:29,720 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 3: Code.

1614
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,479
Speaker 5: We'll see what happened. We'll kick the fucking tires. But

1615
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 5: what can we do promotionally or otherwise? Because uh, we

1616
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 5: do believe in this thing. I mean maybe I don't

1617
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 5: believe in it to the extent of which my twin

1618
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 5: brother does. My god, I mean, it's like the kids

1619
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 5: like got the fucking logo tattoo. But in terms of

1620
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 5: the Professional Grappling Federation, I know, for you, it's Monday

1621
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 5: and it's imminent. Obviously you have a show Wednesday. But

1622
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 5: how can people support and how can they watch this week?

1623
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 7: Dude?

1624
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 2: The best the best thing you can do is just

1625
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 2: jump on the live stream and watch. And I I

1626
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: think that if you like martial arts on any level,

1627
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 2: or if you like traditional sports on any level, you're

1628
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 2: gonna find something about the PGF that really piques your

1629
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,720
Speaker 2: interest and gets you excited. We keep stats, we have

1630
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: a fantasy league. We have the back to back weeks

1631
01:15:17,200 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: of the season every time, so you get to see

1632
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 2: these athletes come in and really do their thing, you know,

1633
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 2: like The Wide World of Sports used to open with

1634
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 2: that line. Is like the thrill of victory and the

1635
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 2: agony of defeat and seeing the athletes go through that

1636
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 2: journey and that struggle through the course of a season

1637
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 2: offers you something that you just don't get in any

1638
01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 2: other Like I'm a giant Bulls fan, Dude, I'm a

1639
01:15:43,320 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 2: huge Chicago Bulls fan. It's a tough time out there

1640
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,160
Speaker 2: for us, you know. I know you're a Celtics man.

1641
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: So like, dude, I don't want to talk about that

1642
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 2: right now. I'm glad you took Bocovic off the hands.

1643
01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 3: We can go.

1644
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 2: We can go deeper if.

1645
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 7: We need to.

1646
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 2: But why do I come back and buy NBA League

1647
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:02,639
Speaker 2: every season when I know the Bulls are not gonna

1648
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 2: make the playoffs, They're not even gonna scratch the surface.

1649
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 2: It's because I've been riding with the Chicago Bulls since

1650
01:16:09,880 --> 01:16:12,200
Speaker 2: I was seven years old, and those are my boys,

1651
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,639
Speaker 2: and I need that up and down storyline. And when

1652
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 2: we finally hit one more time, It's gonna feel so

1653
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 2: good because it felt so bad for so long. And

1654
01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 2: the lead gives you that. Consistent teams gives you that.

1655
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 2: And so that's what I'm trying to put out. There

1656
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 2: is a way to build real fandom for people. So

1657
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:33,560
Speaker 2: that's what you're watching.

1658
01:16:33,320 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 4: When you come to the pg You've laid an amazing foundation.

1659
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 5: Brandon mccatherine, Commissioner and founder of the Professional Grappling Federation

1660
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 5: PGF Live and well, we'll be watching on Wednesday, Buddy,

1661
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 5: thank you for the time being back.

1662
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much. It's a true honor.

1663
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:47,760
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thank you.

1664
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 5: Brother be back with us live on the Anik Employing Podcast.

1665
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 5: I just like to have a little fun there. But uh,

1666
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 5: it is true, my brother. Just because Jay obsesses over

1667
01:16:56,800 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 5: the NFL to the extent to what he does, you

1668
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 5: can imagine for him the draft and the franchises. I

1669
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 5: do think it'd be too expensive for us to buy

1670
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 5: a team, though, Kenny.

1671
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 9: So we'll see, hey, all right, all right, we'll see

1672
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 9: you know, we'll see what a bitcoin and you know,

1673
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 9: if anybody wants to join us in that initiative, I

1674
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 9: do think it could be potentially be cool if we

1675
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,400
Speaker 9: were to open it up to you know, yeah, I

1676
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:21,760
Speaker 9: like it.

1677
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Speaker 6: I like Cody's spelling of the Annika condas.

1678
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Speaker 4: Yeah, an yes, that's my password for everything.

1679
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,280
Speaker 5: which is very exciting, all right, Kenny, let us begin

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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night Ivloya versus Murphy, London, England, the two Arena.

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Speaker 4: It is yours live on Paramount Plus.

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Speaker 5: We begin with a middleweight main card offering CLD Christian

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01:19:56,200 --> 01:20:00,639
Speaker 5: Leroy Duncan minus four to ten eleven ranked away contender

1726
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 5: Roman Delidze is plus three twenty Sodlidze thirty seven. Now

1727
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 5: he has won three of four coming off the main

1728
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,800
Speaker 5: event lost to Anthony Fluffy Hernandez last August. We do

1729
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 5: come to find out that he was not at all

1730
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 5: healthy for that fight nor that abbreviated training camp.

1731
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 4: Take that for what it is worth.

1732
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Speaker 5: He's a big underdog here, Kenny, against CLD, a man

1733
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,720
Speaker 5: from whom a lot has been expected really dating to

1734
01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 5: his UFC debut. What do you make of Christian Leroy

1735
01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,759
Speaker 5: Duncan minus four to ten Roman delidze plus three twenty.

1736
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 6: Well, I do think there's a lot of value on Delite.

1737
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,519
Speaker 6: I think he could definitely play spoiler, just based on

1738
01:20:34,600 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 6: the fact that he's a high level grappler and that

1739
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 6: is not the strength of Christian Leroy Duncan. However, CLD

1740
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 6: is the better athlete. Delzzey is not a bad athlete,

1741
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 6: but CLD, I think is a special athlete. The way

1742
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 6: that he moves, his speed, his knockout power. I think

1743
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:54,640
Speaker 6: his footwork is going to have to be spot on.

1744
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:57,320
Speaker 6: But more than his footwork so he doesn't get cut off,

1745
01:20:57,880 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 6: is his ability to stop the takedown of Delite. Delite

1746
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:06,120
Speaker 6: is not the most technical takedown artist, but he's big.

1747
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,280
Speaker 4: He's strong and on the ground.

1748
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,200
Speaker 6: If he gets on top with his ground and pound

1749
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,519
Speaker 6: or with his submission game, he could pose a lot

1750
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:16,799
Speaker 6: of problems for CLD. However, I gotta go with CLD

1751
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:22,040
Speaker 6: the East Coast family and uh yeah yeah, CLD the

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01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 6: East Coast Family.

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01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1754
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 3: I like him.

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 6: I just I do think that there's some good value.

1756
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 6: So for those that are looking for an underdog pick,

1757
01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,439
Speaker 6: I think Delite could provide that for you. But I'm

1758
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 6: gonna lean the way of CLD.

1759
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1760
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm trying to buy a PGF franchise, so

1761
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 5: minus four ten would be way too big a price

1762
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 5: for me. Other big career spot for CLD came against

1763
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 5: RoboCop at UFC three oh four. He's won three in

1764
01:21:45,920 --> 01:21:48,960
Speaker 5: a row now five of six, sandwiched around that loss

1765
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 5: to Gregory Rodriguez, and uh yeah, he'll be top eleven

1766
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,400
Speaker 5: in the world next week if he can hold service

1767
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 5: the minus four ten favorite here all right. Next up

1768
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 5: at light heavyweight Ebo Bardanevski minus five twenty Austin Lane

1769
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:05,360
Speaker 5: plus three ninety. Largely we are picking this fight well

1770
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 5: and Park Kitts is on the main car, but also

1771
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,840
Speaker 5: because I want to see Austin Lane on the scale

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Speaker 5: at two hundred and six pounds.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: Former Jacksonville Jaguar, the one hundred and fifty third overall

1775
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:18,120
Speaker 5: pick in round five of the twenty ten NFL Draft

1776
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 5: out of Murray State.

1777
01:22:19,160 --> 01:22:22,320
Speaker 4: His UFC run has been very weird. Right, He's got

1778
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:23,559
Speaker 4: one win to show for.

1779
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:27,920
Speaker 5: Six UFC appearances, And I guess if you're a handicapper,

1780
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:29,720
Speaker 5: probably not a bad jumping off point.

1781
01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,719
Speaker 4: The guy hasn't won very much to my knowledge.

1782
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 5: He's never fought at two hundred and five pounds before

1783
01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 5: fighting the undefeated Bardanuski Bardanevski, who is seven to zero

1784
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,479
Speaker 5: out of Poland Kenny.

1785
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 4: Any thoughts on this one at light heavyweight.

1786
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I think this is gonna be a

1787
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 6: tough one for Austin Lane. First of all, I think

1788
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 6: with this weight cut, curious to see how he performs.

1789
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,760
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of question marks around that.

1790
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 6: With Baranowski. I think that he's a guy with a

1791
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 6: lot of talent, a good overall skill, and I gotta

1792
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:02,400
Speaker 6: lean the way of the of He's a Polish fighter, Baronsky.

1793
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:03,320
Speaker 4: Pretty good judo player.

1794
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,840
Speaker 5: He did win that famous Ebo versus Evo clash at

1795
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,200
Speaker 5: UFC three twenty three last December one of Bonus as well,

1796
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 5: so we'll see if he maintains the undefeated mark prohibitively

1797
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 5: favored minus five twenty right now on DraftKings Sportsbook. All Right,

1798
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 5: the fights get bigger as we continue the conversation at

1799
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 5: Welterway Ken Flow. Michael Venom page minus one ninety eight,

1800
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 5: Sam Patterson plus one sixty four, so MVP will be

1801
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 5: thirty nine on April seventh. I think Age largely is

1802
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 5: just a number for him. He looks as good as

1803
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 5: ever to me. Weird bit of matchmaking here. There's a

1804
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 5: lot of familiarity between these two guys, they have trained

1805
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,880
Speaker 5: together before. Neither guy I think was of an appetitive

1806
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 5: nature to take this fight, But beggars can't be choosers.

1807
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:52,240
Speaker 5: MVP beat charl Bullet Magametov and Jared Kennedy are middleweight

1808
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 5: after a lost to Iamashidogary who's probably going to fight

1809
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 5: for the title next and now fighting Sam Patterson. So

1810
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 5: still wrapping my head around the matchmaking. But ultimately Kenny

1811
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 5: to lock the door behind them this weekend and we

1812
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 5: will need a selection out of you.

1813
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:09,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is a little bit trickier one than you

1814
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,479
Speaker 6: would think, because I do think that Patterson is a

1815
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,160
Speaker 6: very good fighter, and again, being six foot three, you

1816
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 6: know he's not going to be the guy that kind.

1817
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 4: Of is overwhelmed by the size and all that stuff.

1818
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 4: But he could be overwhelmed by the footwork and.

1819
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 6: Speed of someone like MVP, right, you know MVP, you know,

1820
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,759
Speaker 6: maybe not in his physical prime, but still an absolute problem.

1821
01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 6: He is so fast and so good at cutting the

1822
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 6: distance and sneaking away before you're able to get a shot.

1823
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 6: I think Patterson's best bet here is to utilize his

1824
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:47,519
Speaker 6: striking time the footwork of MVP no easy task, and

1825
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 6: look to try to take this fight to the ground.

1826
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,720
Speaker 6: I mean, that's where we've seen MVP in trouble and

1827
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 6: struggle and get tired over time. So I think if

1828
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 6: he can do that, I think Patterson can win this fight.

1829
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:03,400
Speaker 6: Tempted a little bit, but I think MVP is a

1830
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 6: guy that tends to shine in these kind of spots.

1831
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 6: I think, and I think fighting in England and all

1832
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 6: that stuff, I think MVP will probably find his form.

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01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 4: So I like MVP here.

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01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:19,040
Speaker 5: Nicely laid out UFC strength of schedule, not necessarily on

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01:25:19,080 --> 01:25:20,880
Speaker 5: the side of Sam Patterson. Right now, the plus one

1836
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 5: sixty four underdog Johann Lanis, Keifer Crosby, Danny Barlow, and

1837
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 5: Trey Waters represent the four fight winning streak for Sam Patterson.

1838
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 4: But yeah, the dude's got chokes.

1839
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 5: I mean, if he's able to work his way to

1840
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,440
Speaker 5: the back of Michael ven and Page, could be problematic.

1841
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 5: But I think Michael ven and Page right now is

1842
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:38,800
Speaker 5: one of the best welterweights in the world, and we'll

1843
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 5: see if Sam Patterson is on that level all right.

1844
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 4: Comin evented featherweight.

1845
01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 5: Two guys with whom I have very little familiarity by

1846
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,040
Speaker 5: the way, Kenny Luke Riley modus two ninety Michael as

1847
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 5: Well Junior plus two thirty five. So Riley the bigger

1848
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:53,679
Speaker 5: name here, twelve and zero out of next Gen in Liverpool,

1849
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,799
Speaker 5: England memorable UFC deput got a bonus for his efforts.

1850
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 5: Now he gets the co main event showcase against the

1851
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 5: Texas kid Michael Ashwell Junior.

1852
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 4: Canfilow Who do you love in the coma?

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01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:03,800
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1854
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 6: I think as well. He's a tough guy, no question

1855
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,080
Speaker 6: about that. I think he's going to try to take

1856
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 6: the fight to Riley. But Riley to me seems like

1857
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 6: the more skilled fighter. Now doesn't necessarily mean he's going

1858
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 6: to win, but I like that. I like seeing a

1859
01:26:19,160 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 6: guy who is composed and skilled out there, and to me,

1860
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:27,320
Speaker 6: Riley seems like a pretty sophisticated operator right right though,

1861
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 6: And I think that you know, he's he's riding high

1862
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,040
Speaker 6: on confidence. He seems like he's got a good team

1863
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:35,760
Speaker 6: around him, and this could be a guy to watch

1864
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 6: from the UK for sure. So I like Luke Riley

1865
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 6: in this spot Blue.

1866
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,120
Speaker 5: Corner Michael Aswell Junior coming off of TKO of Lucas

1867
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,760
Speaker 5: Almeta that was last October at his first UFC win,

1868
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 5: and for him at twenty five years old, what an

1869
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 5: opportunity as he tries to take Luke Riley's oh this

1870
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 5: weekend at the O two All Right main event. If

1871
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 5: I had a soundboard, I would be hitting all of

1872
01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 5: the buttons because I'm very excited about this featherweight title eliminador.

1873
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 5: Sometimes I find myself thinking, Kenny and I have the

1874
01:27:01,880 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 5: job I want. I'm so grateful for it. But how

1875
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 5: would I be watching Kamza Chimaya versus Sean Strickland. If

1876
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 5: I was home as a UFC fan? Would I be

1877
01:27:12,520 --> 01:27:13,479
Speaker 5: bouncing off the walls?

1878
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 3: Right?

1879
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 5: I'm forty seven, Right, it does happen maybe later in

1880
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 5: the night. But I haven't had the opportunity necessarily to

1881
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 5: do that for a major super Bowl level fight like that,

1882
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 5: because I've been fortunate enough to be calling them. Sometimes

1883
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 5: I wonder how I would be sitting around watching a

1884
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 5: fight like that. Would I be disturbing the peace and

1885
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:33,960
Speaker 5: the neighbors.

1886
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, but I'm pretty excited

1887
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: about this one, Mavsar.

1888
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:40,160
Speaker 5: You have Looie Monus two thirty, Laren Murphy plus one

1889
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 5: ninety so mov Star's nineteen and oh Man nineteen and

1890
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 5: fucking oh and modern day mixed martial arts. He didn't

1891
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:48,960
Speaker 5: fight at all last year, so the last win was

1892
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 5: against al Jamin Sterling. That was USC three ten December

1893
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four. Reportedly withdrew from that bout against Aaron

1894
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 5: Pico due to injury. Murphy made an imprint on Aaron

1895
01:27:58,120 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 5: Pico's life, right, I mean he'll never forget that night, right,

1896
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,280
Speaker 5: UFC three nineteen last August in Chicago. A lot of

1897
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,680
Speaker 5: Stott Murphy was title shot worthy Ifloyev certainly is that.

1898
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 5: And now they will fight each other Kenny at the

1899
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 5: O two Arena in London, England. Great backdrop for a

1900
01:28:13,960 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 5: great Man event will need a prediction, not NABA right now.

1901
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 6: It's such a great fight because both guys are capable

1902
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,759
Speaker 6: of winning it, and I want to see both guys fight.

1903
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 4: For the belt.

1904
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,600
Speaker 6: They've done so much and have experienced so much consistency

1905
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:32,920
Speaker 6: that I want to see both guys get that shot.

1906
01:28:33,000 --> 01:28:35,240
Speaker 6: But here they are about to cancel each other out

1907
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 6: or one cancel the other one out, and they have

1908
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 6: very different styles. Of course, Laron Murphy, more of a striker,

1909
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 6: wants to keep it on the feet, has knockout power.

1910
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 6: We've seen that, and we've seen him maybe struggle a

1911
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 6: little bit in the grappling department, but then he finds

1912
01:28:53,080 --> 01:28:58,120
Speaker 6: that one window of opportunity and in a blink he

1913
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 6: knocks you out. He did it against Pico, he did

1914
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 6: it against a mere Connie where he was struggling on

1915
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 6: the ground. And you know those kind of guys.

1916
01:29:06,520 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 4: Are hard to doubt.

1917
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 6: Is when they're able to find that window of opportunity

1918
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 6: and make the most out of it. It's hard to

1919
01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 6: count those guys out. However, when you're talking about the

1920
01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 6: consistency of grappling, pressure of not getting tired of, you know,

1921
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:29,639
Speaker 6: repeatedly going against other high level guys and just being

1922
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 6: a step above, and you know Ivloyev the gym that

1923
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,599
Speaker 6: he comes out of, it's hard to doubt him as well.

1924
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:41,600
Speaker 6: And when I see a guy that is this consistent

1925
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:45,400
Speaker 6: and matches up against a striker like Laurent Murphy, I'm

1926
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 6: gonna lean the way of the grappler. Perhaps it's biased,

1927
01:29:48,840 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 6: but I'd be curious to see what history has shown.

1928
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 6: I would I would wager that the grappler probably comes

1929
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 6: out on top more often than not in these kind

1930
01:29:58,880 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 6: of spots.

1931
01:29:59,560 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 4: And as good as I.

1932
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:05,400
Speaker 6: Think Loroo Murphy is, I think Ivloyev is an absolute problem.

1933
01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:08,200
Speaker 6: Of going back and watching that fight against al Jamaine

1934
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 6: Sterling and everything that Sterling has done, Ivloyev, the way

1935
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Speaker 6: he responded and counter grappled in some of those really

1936
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:19,120
Speaker 6: important spots I think was special. And I think if

1937
01:30:19,160 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 6: he can get Murphy down early and zap him of

1938
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Speaker 6: some of his energy and speed, I think that's where

1939
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Speaker 6: You'vloyev will probably just keep running away with it and

1940
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,120
Speaker 6: pull away little by little as the fight goes on.

1941
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Speaker 4: And I like Ivloyev.

1942
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Speaker 6: Man, it's hard to doubt a guy with that kind

1943
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Speaker 6: of mindset and style, So give me Ivloyev here.

1944
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 5: It is interesting the counter wrestling, almost as if at

1945
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 5: times he hits a video game button and just puts

1946
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:50,360
Speaker 5: himself in an advantageous position. He's nineteen to zero for

1947
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Speaker 5: a reason. Laron certainly this has built methodically fought a

1948
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,200
Speaker 5: ton of Abu Dabi. I remember a draw in his

1949
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Speaker 5: UFC debut against Zubert to Hugav, He's hit dealt with

1950
01:30:58,840 --> 01:31:01,840
Speaker 5: a lot of different stylistic challenges. But yeah, I mean

1951
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 5: Mobsar has been that dude for a while and has

1952
01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 5: a great chance to prove it and move to twenty

1953
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Speaker 5: and oh this weekend.

1954
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, And if we saw Ivloyev just go out and

1955
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Speaker 6: just mop the floor with his guys easily and never

1956
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 6: you know, experience any adversity, I would say, you know,

1957
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,639
Speaker 6: I like Luri Murphy in the spot, but we saw

1958
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 6: Ifloyev against Lopez and some tough spots and some really

1959
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:25,040
Speaker 6: nasty submissions that a lot of other people probably would

1960
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:28,840
Speaker 6: have tapped to, and Ifloyev, either through high countering skill

1961
01:31:29,120 --> 01:31:30,720
Speaker 6: or sheer toughness.

1962
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,679
Speaker 4: Was able to outgrit and get out of those spots.

1963
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Speaker 3: So I like that.

1964
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Speaker 6: I like seeing that we've I like the fact that

1965
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Speaker 6: we've seen him tested before. So that's the other thing

1966
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 6: I'm kind of leaning on here. Yeah, all right, now

1967
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,960
Speaker 6: it's time to put the money where the mouth is.

1968
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Speaker 6: Place your bets.

1969
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Speaker 5: Brought to you by John Anis dot com, where you

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1974
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Speaker 5: Fight YouTube channel as well. But these episodes are now

1975
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Speaker 5: live once again and repurpose thereafter on the Anakin Floran

1976
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Speaker 5: podcast YouTube channel. All right, good week for Ken Flow

1977
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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night Emmett versus basch Ekos five hundred dollars

1978
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Speaker 5: straight on the main event. You hit only page in

1979
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,200
Speaker 5: ninety bucks, but we're just trying to be in a black.

1980
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 5: And then you hit and Jillian robertson a two to

1981
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 5: one favorit plus two hundred and fifty dollars. You go

1982
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Speaker 5: two and oho, whack both your straight wagers and shave

1983
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Speaker 5: the nut down to four hundred and twenty seven dollars

1984
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Speaker 5: and ninety seven cents. And if you did tail Jason

1985
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 5: Annex Women's MMA parlay, that was one thousand to pay

1986
01:32:32,479 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 5: eight hundred, so he's in the black. Ken Flow, you

1987
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:40,040
Speaker 5: get one thousand dollars for UFC Fight Night Ivloye versus Murphy.

1988
01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 5: Those are not Australian dollars. Those are usd American dollars.

1989
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Speaker 5: You have a band with which to work, how are

1990
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Speaker 5: you spending your money.

1991
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna keep it simple again, my man.

1992
01:32:51,560 --> 01:32:53,960
Speaker 6: You know you heard Ray Longo talk about the basics.

1993
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,080
Speaker 6: I'm gonna keep it real basic. I'm gonna put a

1994
01:32:56,200 --> 01:33:00,559
Speaker 6: thousand on Ivloyev. Perhaps a little bit crazy given how

1995
01:33:00,640 --> 01:33:04,759
Speaker 6: good Murphy is, but I've Loyev style. It's a problem.

1996
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 6: Going to go one thousand on Movsar Ivloyev.

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01:33:07,880 --> 01:33:10,080
Speaker 5: All right, that'll pay north of four hundred dollars if

1998
01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 5: in fact it hits, and unless it's a draw or

1999
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 5: a no contest, one of those fighters will fall from

2000
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 5: the ranks of the unbeaten UFC. Fight Night E of

2001
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Speaker 5: Laya versus Murphy coming up on Paramount plus this weekend.

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Speaker 5: All right, real quick, before we get on out of here, Repacks.

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Speaker 5: I've been waiting for this moment because I have resisted

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Speaker 5: the temptation to just buy a bunch of these things

2005
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Speaker 5: on my own. And the reason why I like these

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Speaker 5: cards so much is because these UFC cards have been grated,

2007
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Speaker 5: so essentially a sixty dollars investment could eventually land you

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Speaker 5: a UFC card that is valued at up to sixteen

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Speaker 5: hundred dollars. Home of Fight Repacks powered by Home of

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Speaker 5: You see there if you're watching and not just listening,

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Speaker 5: sixty bucks right, you rip it open and inside is

2013
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Speaker 5: not only an authentic card, but it is a graded

2014
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Speaker 5: UFC card. And then from there any different choices.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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01:34:01,880 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 5: You can keep it secured in your online vault, which

2017
01:34:04,160 --> 01:34:06,759
Speaker 5: I have done with my jongwe Lee and Alex Padeta cards.

2018
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 5: You can ship it home to your collection, have it

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Speaker 5: in hand, or you can push it move it instantly

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Speaker 5: back to collectibles dot com. The chase is real, lot

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Speaker 5: of different potential to hit here on guys like a Beet, Normago, Metops,

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Speaker 5: Sugarshan O'Malley. A lot of the biggest names in the

2023
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 5: sport are out there. And yeah, I mean I got

2024
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:26,120
Speaker 5: greedy on my own time and I drew it, Dan Mergleatta,

2025
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 5: I drew the big tan and sold it back for

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Speaker 5: a Michael Chandler. But if you thrive on anticipation, if

2027
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,560
Speaker 5: you appreciate championship level stakes, this is your moment. Go

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Speaker 5: to Home of Fight Cards dot Com and get in

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Speaker 5: on the action. The Collectibles dot Com app is great.

2030
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Speaker 5: That's where I do this thing. It is my understanding

2031
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:49,000
Speaker 5: that we each get to to open two packs today.

2032
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 5: So I'm very excited. I mean, I wish my coffee

2033
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:54,400
Speaker 5: was Hendrix Gin right now at one thirty four pm

2034
01:34:54,439 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 5: Eastern time, because I don't need any more caffeine. All right,

2035
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,000
Speaker 5: So my repack is read to go, So here we go.

2036
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:04,639
Speaker 5: You know, big money, no Whammy's Cody. You can open

2037
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 5: this pit right now. And uh you know, we're looking

2038
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Speaker 5: for active fighters. We're looking for big name fighters. We're

2039
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Speaker 5: looking for active fighters. And the suspense ends right here

2040
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:17,240
Speaker 5: with the repack. Who is going to be outed to

2041
01:35:17,280 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 5: my collection with Joan way Lee and Alex Pta ken Flow.

2042
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 4: What do we got? If it's Andre Munz, I'm gonna

2043
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:24,519
Speaker 4: lose my mind?

2044
01:35:25,080 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so we got Ahado Gary, who is

2045
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,120
Speaker 5: likely the next welchaweight world title challenger.

2046
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 4: So PSA nine, you'd rather ten.

2047
01:35:36,800 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 5: I could get ninety percent buyback right now, sixty one

2048
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:41,639
Speaker 5: fifty seven, so it cost me sixty bucks. I could

2049
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 5: make a dollar and fifty seven cents, but we're gonna

2050
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 5: throw that one into the vault.

2051
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 4: And all I want to know now, after.

2052
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 5: A good job on Ima Shadogary is if you're staying

2053
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:51,479
Speaker 5: with me because you're logged in as me, Cody, you're

2054
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:53,720
Speaker 5: staying as me. Right, I'm getting my second card right now.

2055
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 5: We just want winners. Kenny im a big land for us.

2056
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 4: Dude.

2057
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:02,320
Speaker 5: These are all going to my son. He can sell

2058
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:05,080
Speaker 5: them if he wants. He knows Home of Fight Repacks.

2059
01:36:05,200 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 5: Card number two for me.

2060
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 7: What do we got? What do we got?

2061
01:36:12,720 --> 01:36:17,000
Speaker 5: All right, let's see no referees, no whammies, no referees,

2062
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:23,640
Speaker 5: no whammies. Temba Garimbo PSA eight, you can sell that

2063
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 5: one back PSA eight Temba Garimbo. We'll accept that buy back.

2064
01:36:27,400 --> 01:36:30,640
Speaker 5: So just to give you guys some idea, I just

2065
01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 5: lost thirty bucks on that exchange. Twenty nine bucks. Yeah,

2066
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:36,160
Speaker 5: the funds are already in my wallet. So all right,

2067
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 5: So we added Yama Shadow Gary.

2068
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:40,479
Speaker 4: And then we I like it.

2069
01:36:40,640 --> 01:36:43,680
Speaker 5: We gave back the Temba Garimbo card, the PSA eight

2070
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 5: other things, you know. So I went on the Collectibles

2071
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:50,680
Speaker 5: dot Com app, right, And we're not doing this for

2072
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 5: promotional purposes as much as we're doing this because I

2073
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,679
Speaker 5: absolutely love this stuff, and I am a card collector

2074
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 5: and I want to get all of my cards from

2075
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 5: the nineteen nineties graded properly like this. This just takes

2076
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:03,720
Speaker 5: out the middleman. So it's already grated. So for god

2077
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,840
Speaker 5: like me, it's just you know, it's the opposite of

2078
01:37:05,880 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 5: a stick shift, right, it's just automatically all right. So

2079
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 5: there's been a lot of Sergei Pano Andre Munez cards

2080
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:14,880
Speaker 5: out there.

2081
01:37:15,000 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 4: Can flow. The floor is yours moment. Let's see what

2082
01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:21,679
Speaker 4: we got here, roll them.

2083
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:23,479
Speaker 3: All right?

2084
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,920
Speaker 4: Can flow getting his repack here? Am I rooting for

2085
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 4: you or against you?

2086
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 3: For me?

2087
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 4: Of course, like we're at the blackjack table, what we do?

2088
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 4: All right?

2089
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,639
Speaker 5: So this is a twenty twenty two Panini prism Casey O'Neill,

2090
01:37:39,680 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 5: it's a PSA ten kenny. You know we're not trying

2091
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 5: to offend anybody here. You can buy it back or

2092
01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:45,759
Speaker 5: keep it in the collection.

2093
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:52,920
Speaker 4: Let's see, Uh, let's keep it in the collection. Let's

2094
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:53,719
Speaker 4: keep it in the collection.

2095
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 3: Why not?

2096
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 4: Program?

2097
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,560
Speaker 5: Ha No, And she's a sweetheart and we need to

2098
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 5: get her back on the program, all right. Keen Flows

2099
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Speaker 5: second home of Fight Repack Collectibles dot Com app is

2100
01:38:12,840 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 5: so good.

2101
01:38:13,600 --> 01:38:15,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go buy one after the show.

2102
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 5: What are these sixty dollars charges that keep popping up honey,

2103
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 5: all right, we got is that Adrian Yan. Yes, it's

2104
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:31,240
Speaker 5: a PSA ten, so that's good, but maybe not the

2105
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,200
Speaker 5: most elite card in the world because they're offering you

2106
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 5: a twenty nine dollars and sixty eight cent buy back.

2107
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Speaker 4: Nate's telling me it's a rookie card, so interesting. What

2108
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,960
Speaker 4: you would you do here, Johnny? What should I sell it?

2109
01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 3: Well?

2110
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 4: I am of a Maddie Betts philosophy that I'm trying

2111
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:54,120
Speaker 4: to hit, you know, so yeah, you know, I mean,

2112
01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:58,320
Speaker 4: but it's up to you. You're gonna sell I'll sell it.

2113
01:38:58,439 --> 01:38:59,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right.

2114
01:39:00,240 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 5: If you want to let us know at Anti Florian

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Speaker 5: Pod and you want to get me really excited at

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Speaker 5: John underscore annaic let me know if you realize any

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Speaker 5: success and open up some bangers on collectibles dot com.

2118
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Speaker 5: All right, Thank you to our guests. Ken ride Out

2119
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Speaker 5: that's how they pronounce ride out in some of ill masks.

2120
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Speaker 5: Ken ride Out. Thanks and malto to b mac Brandon mccatharine,

2121
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 5: Thanks to Ray Longo, Thanks to the great Cody Marrow

2122
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 5: and Nate Bronson behind the scenes, and everybody at all

2123
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2124
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2125
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Speaker 5: the program. And we will talk to you next week.

2126
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Speaker 5: I will effort to be live with Ray Longo in

2127
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Speaker 5: Garden City, New York. And as I said to everybody

2128
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Speaker 5: at Longgo's MMA, you know, run up, get done up.

2129
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Speaker 5: We'll see how it goes for are you Next Monday,

2130
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Speaker 5: we'll be live with afrikemplom John and thank you all

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Speaker 5: for watching and listening and all of it.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you next week. Until then, you'll let