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So this 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: is a very important episode for a variety of different reasons. 23 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 4: If you follow you while you know that market. Monday 24 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: is on his world tour started in La Toronto, Canada, London, Chicago, 25 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 4: and we're going to end the year in Ghana. 26 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 5: Very important to this. 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, Ghana is one of these places that has gotten 28 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 4: a lot of recognition in the last couple of years 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 4: for a variety of different things, but one of the 30 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 4: main reasons why they've gotten recognition is a festival my 31 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 4: graduates from my school being Forts back Drop, b Drop, 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: Mike Drop back Drop. It used to be called Afro Cella. 33 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: It's changed its name to Afro Future. Yes, and it's 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: real big. It's a culture music type vibe. It has, 35 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 4: I guess brought in over four billion dollars of tourism. 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 6: That was in twenty nineteen. It definitely brought more and since. 37 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 4: Then, okay, created over five thousand jobs. 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 5: Yeah. 39 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 6: We hire on average about one thousand to two thousand 40 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 6: people every year. 41 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 4: And it's at the end of the summer. So it's 42 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 4: a big festival. It's music music festival. 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 6: Right, yeah, but it's a cultural festival. And for us 44 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 6: it's like equal parts music, ego parts, fashion ego parts 45 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 6: are eco part food and all those elements come together 46 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 6: to kind of create the experience that we're trying to create. 47 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 6: It's an immersion of culture all at once, and it 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 6: kind of takes all your senses at once. And I 49 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 6: think that's why people keep coming back, because there's a 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 6: place where there's a safety, there is a beauty, and 51 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 6: you see yourself and all the people around you, and 52 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 6: you're really just having a good time. And I think 53 00:02:58,360 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 6: that's the beauty of what we've created. 54 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 4: Abdul Kareem Abdullah, Sir, Founder of Afrochella currently called Afro Future. 55 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: That's correct. But you are a native of the Bronx, yes, forever, yes, whatever. 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 4: So your family, your family's from Ghana. 57 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 5: Burnside to be specific. 58 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 4: Ye, your family from Ghana. You're from the Bronx. But 59 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: first and foremost, thank you for coming. Appreciate it. 60 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I appreciate you. 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 6: Appreciate you familiar with these parts. I am familiar with 62 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 6: with white plans. You know, I actually got my prom 63 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 6: my prom suit when I was the block at the 64 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 6: gallery exactly. 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 5: Really, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Rest in peace. 66 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: The casualty of malls. You malls all around the country closing. 67 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 6: They had some flying stuff that remember, I was going 68 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 6: to get the right suit to match the Mory's. 69 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 4: You know, we were talking, we was talking, was talking 70 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 4: about about this, and he was saying that, you know, 71 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 4: he always had chip on his shoulder coming from Westchester 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: because everybody was like, what is upstate? Like nobody really 73 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 4: gave Westchester any credit. But I feel like the Bronx 74 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 4: at least knows where Westchester is. Absolutely Brooklyn. They think 75 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 4: Westchester is like Canada, next to all, but it was 76 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 4: right there. 77 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 6: I grew up in. I grew up in the Bronx 78 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 6: soas my family lived right thereas by Riverdale, so I 79 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 6: know Youkas, I know the block. My brothers actually still 80 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 6: live on, so I'm very familiar Westchester. 81 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: Appreciate I appreciate that absolutely. All right, So let's get 82 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 4: into this. So all right, you have a huge festival 83 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 4: that you started, and then, like I said, the way 84 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: for Ghana has just been crazy because the year return. 85 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 4: We'll talk about that, and I think they have really 86 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 4: done the best job at promoting tourism for Black Americans 87 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 4: because people want to go back to Africa, but there's 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: never really been a roadmap of what to do, where 89 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: to go, and so it's just like you just got 90 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 4: a whole continent, and of course Egypt has always you 91 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 4: know stood out for a historical standpoint, but for like 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 4: a black experience, there was never any roadmap in Ghana. 93 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 4: Kind of saw opportunity, I think, and really and then 94 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 4: you come in and that plays apart. So where's the 95 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 4: idea for the festival start? 96 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:17,239 Speaker 6: It starts some time in about twenty fifteen. My partner 97 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 6: Kenny Kenneth of JAPONS, he's in Ghana right now. He 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,359 Speaker 6: lives in Ghana, and you know, he was fresh coming 99 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 6: back from you know, moving from the United States. He 100 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 6: was in grad school and you know, he was finishing 101 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 6: up grad school and he had a couple of Chinese 102 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 6: guys that was graduating with him, and they were all 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 6: talking about what they were doing after and you know, 104 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 6: the Chinese guys like, well, we're moving to Ghana. And 105 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 6: he was confused and he was like, how y'all moving 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 6: to Ghana. I'm from Ghana. We're moving back to Ghana. 107 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 6: So he ended up going to Ghana and that year 108 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 6: we were all in Ghana in December and year this 109 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 6: is twenty fifteen. And you know, Europeans have always been 110 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 6: in Ghana, so if they're from London, Germany and France. 111 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 6: They've always been as early as six hour flight. It's 112 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 6: not that long of a experience, but we were there, 113 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 6: and we were like very few Americans were there, so 114 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 6: we always knew that there was an opportunity for us 115 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 6: to bring people back from America. We were already doing 116 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,159 Speaker 6: parties here in the United States, just kind of like 117 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 6: celebrating African culture, so bringing artists having a perform giving 118 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 6: an experience to people like me who are like first 119 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 6: generation that are growing up in the United States to 120 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 6: kind of connect to the music. And we was like, 121 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 6: you know, it just didn't make sense that they weren't 122 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 6: enough Americans here seeing what the beauty was here. And 123 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 6: I also kind of grew up between cultures, right so 124 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 6: at home to Africo American to be African and outside, 125 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 6: you know, in school, I was an African kid, like 126 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 6: in high school throughout junior high school. So it's really 127 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 6: just kind of like how do I make people see 128 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 6: like it's really lit out here, you know, And my 129 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 6: team and I we just started recording these videos like 130 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 6: you know, the Africa they don't show you and really 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 6: just kind of like recording our experiences and people were like, yo, 132 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 6: that's that's Africa that's really gone at us. And you know, 133 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 6: eventually we started bringing you know, ten people, fifteen people, 134 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 6: forty people, and eventually, you know, we wanted to throw 135 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 6: a party because you know, we're like, you know, we 136 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 6: throw parties in the city. We could do it in 137 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 6: Ghana and it failed to use a promoter as a 138 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 6: promoter in the city in the city. Clubs, clubs, yeah, 139 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 6: I did Stage forty eight. You know, a bunch of 140 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 6: the big clubs sold it out. We've done a bunch 141 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 6: of those Gramsey Theater. I've done a bunch of concerts 142 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 6: here as well. Before you know, we went to Ghana 143 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 6: to do that. You know, we threw the party. It failed, 144 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 6: and I'm like, well, the beauty in the failure was 145 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 6: that there were young artists that were performing that I 146 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 6: thought were just kind of like excellent, and I just 147 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 6: didn't understand why they were in mainstream because they were 148 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 6: that good. They were captivated. So I'm like, well, there's 149 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: something here. So we had to reassess in our meeting. 150 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, I think the problem that we're 151 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 6: having is everybody's throwing a party. Everybody is just like 152 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 6: really coming here to party, and most people would leave 153 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 6: and they would say, oh they weren't Ganna, they weren't 154 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 6: gan It, but they never connected or you know, people 155 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 6: on the ground would say, well you diaspirins, ad come 156 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 6: in for two weeks, spend all your money and then 157 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 6: leave and nothing impact is coming. 158 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, wageriens. 159 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 6: So basically that's what that's the Twitter word for us. 161 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 6: That's us. So that's all the black people that live 162 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 6: outside of the yap after they eespor. So there was like, 163 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: you know, you come in, you spend your little bread, 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 6: and you bounce and nothing is really impacting. And I'm like, well, 165 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 6: we can create an experience where now we can like 166 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 6: connect people who are doing amazing things, because if you 167 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 6: look around the world people in the day as we 168 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 6: are doing amazing things, you know, from Ghana, from Nigeria, 169 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: from all parts of Africa. And I just felt like 170 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 6: it was a love loss for us to just kind 171 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,719 Speaker 6: of like come to Ghana party and then leave and 172 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 6: not really bring back some of the greatness that we 173 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 6: were learning abroad. 174 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 7: So so prior to twenty fifteen, I mean you said 175 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,520 Speaker 7: you had your from your parents are from Ghana. Had 176 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 7: you been going back to the continent. Have you visited 177 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 7: or you just like twenty fifteen, this is brand new 178 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 7: to me. Let's figure this thing out. 179 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 6: No, So nineteen ninety five, my dad sent us back 180 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: to Ghana. They called as deportees. My aunt was calling 181 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 6: us deportees because, like you know, it was like a punishment, 182 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 6: like you know, for your to send you back to Africa. 183 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 6: Every African kid that grew up in America or anywhere 184 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 6: else knew when your parents told you that you was 185 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 6: going to get sent back to Africa. It was like 186 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,760 Speaker 6: a punishment. And so they sent us back on ninety five. 187 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 6: I went to school there. I went to school there 188 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 6: for seven and a half eight years. 189 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 5: Oh a year. 190 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 6: I thought, it's like doing a summer trip. No, no, no, no, 191 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 6: I lived. I lived in Ghana. I live in Medina, 192 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 6: you know. I lived in North Carnation. So a lot 193 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 6: of the relationships I have now in Ghana are built 194 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 6: based on the fact that I lived there and some 195 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 6: of the students, some of the people that my partners 196 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 6: were my friends in school, that we grew up together. 197 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 6: Some of the people that I look up to, us 198 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 6: big brothers in the industry in the space of Ghana 199 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 6: are people that I've always looked up to unknown since 200 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 6: i was a kid, so I've had deep connections there. 201 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 6: I've seen what it's like to live there in luxury 202 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 6: but also not so much luxury. And I've also lived here, 203 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 6: so I've had best of both experiences. And I felt 204 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 6: like I could communicate. I can go to Ghana and 205 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 6: chilling Medina's on Goal, which is where my grandmother is from, 206 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 6: and I could be completely completely fine, or go to Nima, 207 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 6: you know, and be completely fine. Oh, go to the 208 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 6: Jubilee House where the presidents and I'm being completely uncomfortable, 209 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 6: or front back anywhere in the cry right. And I 210 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 6: love the fact that I could do that. In the Bronx. 211 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 6: I could go to La, I mean, I could be 212 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 6: good in La. I could go to you know, anywhere. 213 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 6: And you know, I used to be afraid to go 214 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 6: to Brooklyn, but now I'm in Brooklyn all the time. 215 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, being able to kind of 216 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 6: understand the cultures separately but together. It was something that 217 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 6: has been an asset to us in building so what 218 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 6: we built. 219 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 4: I want to ask about the festival before then let's 220 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 4: go through this. You're born in America, where Yeah, were 221 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 4: you born eighty eight, You're born in eighty eight. In 222 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 4: ninety five, you go to Africa, Ghana for seven years, yep. 223 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 4: So that's like what like third grade something like that. 224 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, second second grade, scond grade up until like I 225 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 6: came back when I was in eighth grade. 226 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: So you go from second grade to eighth grade, which 227 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 4: effectively is like where you're actually growing up. So you're 228 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 4: growing up in Ghana, come back in for high school 229 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 4: in New York, YEP. 230 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 6: Went to Walton High School, high school for teaching professions 231 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 6: in Walton Hide the high school inside of the so 232 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 6: you know, we wore uniforms crazy. But you know, even 233 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 6: like transitioning between coming back from Ghana to go to school, 234 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,559 Speaker 6: it was a culture shock because I hear students talking 235 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 6: back to. 236 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: Teachers That's what I was doing. So it's like, all right, 237 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 4: you like French Mantana. He he moved to the Bronx 238 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 4: from Morocco, Africa, but he just was in there for 239 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 4: twelve years and they moved. So it's it's not as 240 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: you were in America in the Bronx, went to Ghana 241 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 4: and came back to the Bronx. How was that for 242 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 4: you as far as a culture, Shock is concerned and 243 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 4: we have another friend from Nigeria and he was saying, 244 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: like in Nigeria, that's real popular. Like parents make sure 245 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: that their kids go back to their country for a 246 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:56,680 Speaker 4: couple of years just they don't want them to lose 247 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 4: the culture. And they don't even live with them, like 248 00:11:58,640 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: they'll send them with an art or. 249 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 6: I lived with my grandmother and my uncle. So I 250 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 6: lived with my uncle the first couple of years and 251 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 6: then with my grandmother, which was an experience. My uncle 252 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 6: hustled in Japan as in he left Ghana to go 253 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 6: to Japan to learn how to make money. So he 254 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 6: moved back to Ghana to start his own businesses. And 255 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 6: but it was very different in that because I'm not 256 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 6: with my parents, I don't really know him as an 257 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 6: uncle like that. I just met him when I moved 258 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 6: into his house. You know, we're living in a house 259 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 6: that is in Medina's own goal. It's very different than 260 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 6: the people we go to school with, who are all 261 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 6: living in like luxury. So my dad kind of in 262 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 6: his mind he did that purposefully because he wanted us 263 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:41,079 Speaker 6: to be able to have that balance at the time. 264 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna lie didn't like it. I just it 265 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 6: was just kind of like I didn't understand why they 266 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: would leave us here. You know, every once in a while, 267 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 6: like they'll make us feel happy by like shipping us 268 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 6: a bunch of boxes of cereal or like powdered milk. 269 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 6: You know, you know, you know, it just kind of 270 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 6: made you take an appreciation for like being able to 271 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,439 Speaker 6: go to a corner store and get like a gallon 272 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 6: of milk or get a bag of chips, or a quarter soda, 273 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 6: the quarter of water or something like that. Back then, 274 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 6: so whenever we would get to come back for the 275 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 6: summertime with the best times right because then you get 276 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 6: to go back to Ghana and go to school and 277 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 6: show them all the new kicks, showed them all the 278 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 6: new gear, tell them like all the new music that's 279 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 6: going on out. Yeah, you're the man when you when 280 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 6: you have that, I guess proximity to abroad in Ghana 281 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 6: during those times, you were the man. Like you know 282 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 6: what I mean, it was it was very very unpopular. 283 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,079 Speaker 6: I think the Internet has kind of changed that because 284 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 6: now they could see everything as we see it. But 285 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 6: back then, you know, you were the man because you 286 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 6: kind of brought them culture that they didn't really have 287 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 6: access to. So yeah, it was interesting. So and I 288 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 6: think we came right around nine to eleven, we moved 289 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 6: back to the US, and my pops was like, you know, 290 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 6: do you guys want to stay? Like yeah, like you know, 291 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 6: and you know, we stayed, and it was it was 292 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 6: a culture shop because going to school, like I knew 293 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 6: about the clothes, like, you know, my brother would let 294 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 6: me hold his Jordan's I'll never forget. 295 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 5: You know. 296 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 6: That's the reason why to to this day, I'm still 297 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 6: trying to find the cool grade elevens because my dad, 298 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 6: my brother would let me rock the I know, but 299 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 6: it's cool. The threes are my favorite, so you know 300 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 6: our rockers, you know. And you know, the thing that 301 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,600 Speaker 6: connected all of us was hip hop. Like you know, 302 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 6: at the time, I think Jada Kiss and Beanie Seagulls 303 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 6: was was going and my brother was like always putting 304 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 6: us on to like the music, letting us know what's 305 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 6: going on. So you know, that was the one thing 306 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 6: I could connect with them on because you know, we 307 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 6: were talk to be demeor like to teachers, like you 308 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 6: couldn't talk back to a teacher, You couldn't look at 309 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 6: him in an eye because you were afraid that you 310 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 6: would get beat and I was in Ghana, they would beat. 311 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 6: It was so back. Yeah, people were just cursing that teachers. 312 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 7: I was on I've seen I was on the end 313 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 7: of that look at like you're talking to the teacher 314 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 7: like like you know what I mean. 315 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 6: So it was it was an interesting you know culture, 316 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 6: culture shock at the time because I wasn't used to 317 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 6: that for a very long time. I couldn't understand how 318 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 6: people were talking to teachers like that at the time. 319 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: How quickly did you adapt to that? 320 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 6: Uh? You know, I never talked I think one time 321 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 6: in high school. But that's that was out of anger, man, 322 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 6: somebody trying to play me, you know, you know throwing paper, 323 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 6: those are those are the things that's like the only 324 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 6: five ever had in high school and you know that. 325 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 6: But outside of that, like you know, it was it 326 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 6: was dangerous then because it was a lot of gangs. 327 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 4: And did you did you have issues like embracing your 328 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 4: African because like you said, now, it's a vibe as 329 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: far as afrobeats has really you know, it's made it cool. 330 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 4: But back then, you know, kids is ignorant and cruel 331 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 4: and just people just ignorant in general. So I see, 332 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: I've personally seen like African kids getting teased like you 333 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, and it's it's looking back on it, 334 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: that's something that's very miss It's unfortunate, but I've seen 335 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 4: it happen and in any group of people, right, that's 336 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 4: just happens. Like so, I guess sometimes you either like 337 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 4: drill down on just like becoming you just have a 338 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: pack of people, or sometimes you just try to assimilate 339 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 4: and you try to get away from who you are. 340 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 6: Nah, I couldn't do that. My parents had a restaurant. 341 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 6: It was really well known that this is a restaurant. 342 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 6: When I came back from Ghana, I had an accent, 343 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: it was thick, like you know what I mean. But 344 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 6: you know it was just jokes, right, So if somebody 345 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 6: joked on me, I joked on them like I'm African 346 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 6: but I'm flying. You like those kinds of things work 347 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 6: back then like you know what I'm saying, but you 348 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. It would just be like quick 349 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 6: jokes and then eventually you know kids are shallow and 350 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 6: that they didn't really joke on you. If it was 351 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 6: fly like or if you had like a little bit 352 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 6: of money or something like that. It was like the 353 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 6: one thing that that let them know. And then also 354 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 6: like I had to have a very big family in 355 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 6: the Bronx, like you know what I mean. I have 356 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 6: seven brothers, eight brothers, mad cousins like you know what 357 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 6: I mean. So it wasn't something that people I wasn't 358 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 6: an outcast. I wasn't something that like I don't remember 359 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 6: ever getting picked on, like you know, because you know, 360 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 6: my big brother will come on maybe once in the 361 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 6: eighth grade. You know, I got picked came up to 362 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 6: don't forget Yeah, so you don't forget that, like you 363 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. But like I always had people 364 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 6: in my community that was like always gonna hold it down. 365 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 6: And I knew the blocks like right on Burnside Avenue, 366 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 6: that's our neighborhood, Like people knew like my whole family. 367 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: Nobody really messed with my Dominicans up there. All of 368 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 6: them know like who my pops is and who my block, 369 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 6: like my brothers are, my family is. They don't really 370 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 6: Cedric Avenue, you know right there at Bertha of hip Hop, 371 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 6: you know, right by Walton, you know, we grew up there, 372 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 6: so my cousins were there, and they were in the 373 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 6: neighborhood for a long time. Nobody really messed with us, like, 374 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 6: you know, so it was really just about being able 375 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 6: to get from high school to home, right, So being 376 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 6: able to five passed that four. 377 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 7: People really don't understand that, being like, and it's something 378 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 7: I had to learn, right. 379 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 5: So we went to school out here. 380 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 7: But like when I started teaching it and I started coaching, 381 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 7: I'm so used to being transported to and from like. 382 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 5: Like a game, by a school bus. 383 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 7: Until I realized I gotta take the five train, yep, 384 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 7: and I gotta take two train, and I gotta take 385 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 7: the bus. And it's like you're susceptible to everything. But 386 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 7: then you forget, like the kid who's getting on the 387 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 7: bus at ten years old, or the training, he's susceptible 388 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 7: to everything too. So like that being in New York City, 389 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 7: like those things you don't even think. You're just kind 390 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 7: of like all right, part of life. 391 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,200 Speaker 6: I didn't realize it was trauma until I got to Syracuse, 392 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 6: because yeah, Syracuse, like you would go through the metal 393 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 6: textors to go to school, yep. You know, there was 394 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 6: a time, I didn't even go to the second floor 395 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 6: because DDP was there. 396 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 5: Like you know what I'm saying. 397 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 6: It was it was just like if you were black, 398 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 6: you was you know, anything could happen. Or the non 399 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 6: bus or the twenty two bus. You know, people coming 400 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 6: from Kennedy, right from Kennedy. Then you meeting with people 401 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 6: going from Walton on the four train, come with people 402 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 6: from Evander. It was just like so many different ways 403 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 6: that it was dangerous that you know, it was an 404 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 6: interesting time, but you know, thankfully, like you know, for me, 405 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 6: I was always a pretty good student. But also like 406 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: because I had my family, you know, I didn't really 407 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 6: have that many problems. I knew people in Roosevelt, I 408 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 6: knew people in all of these schools that like will 409 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 6: always hold it down for me and a family, So 410 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 6: we never had much worries, you know what I mean. 411 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 6: You know, my dad told us how to defend ourselves 412 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 6: as well in the block as well, So we was 413 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 6: always good. But it was definitely a culture shop because 414 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 6: it was something I didn't have to worry about in Ghana. 415 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 6: Like you know, in Ghana, all I had to worry 416 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:05,920 Speaker 6: about was going to school. The driver come pick us up, 417 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 6: take us home, the food we made for us. You know, 418 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 6: maybe they aren our clothes for us, to wash our 419 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 6: clothes for us on the weekend. I didn't have to 420 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 6: wear about any of that when I came to back 421 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 6: to America. It was just kind of like reality about, 422 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 6: you know, knowing how to protect yourself in that time. 423 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 6: I think New York is completely different than it was 424 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 6: when I was going up in high school from you know, 425 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 6: from my perspective now, maybe I'm just kind of in 426 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 6: what way, I just don't think it's as deep, you know, 427 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 6: I remember it was. I just remember like it's more dangerous, no, 428 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 6: but I just I remember like it was a thing 429 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 6: to not wear red. 430 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, the gang thing. The gang thing. That was 431 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 4: early stages of the game. So that was like heavy. 432 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 4: They were still like triping off of colors. Not like 433 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 4: that now, but it's still still. 434 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 6: I remember like being afraid to get a book fifty 435 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 6: like you know, that was that was that was a 436 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 6: real feel right, So and I feel like I don't 437 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 6: necessarily know that that is a thing that I'm like 438 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 6: afraid to do. Like I don't know a block in 439 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 6: New York City that I'm afraid to walk on back 440 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 6: then it was like, yo, I don't know about going there. 441 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 4: But she was also a kid though too. 442 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 7: That's what I'm saying. Your environment, that's all you know. 443 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 7: It's like said eight block radius. We don't leave here, 444 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 7: and if we do, we better be on God if 445 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 7: we leave here. 446 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 6: Absolutely, So, I mean it was interesting. I think that 447 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 6: all of that just kind of made me who I am, 448 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 6: and and all of that has seeped through in the 449 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 6: way I've developed the business and how I'm thoughtful about 450 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 6: how we invite people, how we extend our relationships to 451 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 6: like two different people that we collaborate with and have 452 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 6: them come back to Donna, because it's really just to 453 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 6: kind of show them that there's a completely new world 454 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 6: where you can just kind of like walk freely. For me, 455 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 6: one of my joys is like walking and Gona and 456 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 6: seeing my friends that are now from gond to just 457 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 6: walk in the streets, just be and I love that 458 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 6: for them. 459 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 7: You said that, I mean, obviously you've created a successful business, 460 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 7: but it's not the business that your dad had, right, 461 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 7: so the restaurant business. Was there any like pressure that 462 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 7: this was going to be passed down to you? And 463 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 7: you didn't go in that direction, like what were some 464 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 7: of the lessons that you learned watching your dad in 465 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 7: the business, and you know that succession plan. 466 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 6: Yeah. I always wanted to go to medical school. So 467 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 6: when I graduated from QS, it was like, all right, 468 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 6: I want to get a master's and probably get some 469 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 6: research support and then you know, I'm going to go 470 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 6: to medical school. And then my pops was like, well 471 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 6: I'm not paying. And I'm like, you're not paying, like 472 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 6: I've always gone to school, Like what do you mean? 473 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 6: He was like, yeah, but you could, you know, come 474 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 6: and work in a restaurant, take it over. You know, 475 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 6: I make more than doctors. Like that was his thing, right, 476 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 6: that I make more than doctor? How much you make 477 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,719 Speaker 6: as a doctor? I tell him, like, well I make 478 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 6: more than that, Like you know, it was his thing 479 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 6: about saying like he makes more than like we should 480 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 6: just own our own business. It didn't make sense, and 481 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 6: you know that's what we clashed because I just didn't 482 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 6: understand at that time. All I wanted to do was 483 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 6: be a doctor. So he kicked me out. He kicked 484 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 6: me out of his crib. Yeah, I think I was 485 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 6: twenty two, Like you know how I think twenty two 486 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 6: He's like, you're a grown man now, you know you 487 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 6: got three months. I'm like three months. I'm like, I 488 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 6: had cool, no problem. It took me like four five. 489 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 6: But that's when I end up moving to Queens. I 490 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 6: think you used to be a millio's financial. 491 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 4: Ad me a million oh from the fraternity. That's my brother, 492 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 4: believe Sparks. 493 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 6: He was actually he was actually my roommate when I 494 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 6: moved out actually back then. So yeah, there's pressure always 495 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 6: to kind of take over the business. I mean I 496 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 6: cook as well him and I. That's way we bond 497 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,639 Speaker 6: because you know, in my family, like the men always 498 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 6: cooked Thanksgiving as far back as I know, we make 499 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 6: Sunday breakfast, you know, for my family. So it was 500 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 6: like he wanted me to do that, and you know, 501 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 6: I just needed to kind of like find my way 502 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 6: to it or find my way around doing what I 503 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 6: wanted to do at the time. And I think just 504 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 6: kind of even moving out was like the best decision 505 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 6: for our relationship. 506 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 4: So let's fast forward this situation back to the festival. 507 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 4: So the first thing you do is not successful, correct, 508 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: You throw a party in Ghana and it doesn't work out. Yeah, 509 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 4: what makes you want to restructure and go forward, and 510 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 4: when do you actually become successful with the festival. 511 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 6: There was no purpose behind the party at the time 512 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 6: when we threw it. It was just really just to 513 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 6: kind of like throw a turn up just because. And 514 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 6: I think that I realized that very quickly, right, you know. 515 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 6: And you know, one thing, I because I did clinical 516 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 6: research for a long time, So failure doesn't mean, you know, 517 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 6: it doesn't mean that you can't like grow and learn 518 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 6: lessons from it. You know, even in research, when the 519 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 6: research fails, they write a paper about it. And I 520 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 6: think that for me it was just kind of like understanding, like, look, 521 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 6: we didn't have a full understanding of what we were 522 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 6: trying to do. There was no purpose behind it. And 523 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 6: in that I also saw a purpose because I saw 524 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 6: that there were young artists that were doing amazing work 525 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 6: that also performed. Even though they weren't that many people there, 526 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 6: they were willing to perform and they killed it with 527 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 6: so much energy. I thought that they did needed to 528 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 6: be something for them around the same time. You know, 529 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 6: it's coincidental, I think the way things work for me. 530 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 6: When I came back, my dad was looking to open 531 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 6: up his restaurant in Harlem, So we have a second 532 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 6: location in Harlem, and he's like, you know, I've always 533 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 6: had the taxi drivers because he opened in the early eighties, 534 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 6: you know, so taxi drivers at the time, a lot 535 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 6: of them didn't have their wives in America. So they 536 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 6: will come and they'll buy a bulk and they will 537 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 6: have some for their fridge. It's like, I've always had 538 00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 6: that community. But we want to get some of the 539 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 6: young crowd that are now looking to eat African food, 540 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 6: looking to tragic off and things of that nature. So 541 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 6: what can you do? You throw parties, like can you 542 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 6: bring some of the energy here? So I wanted to 543 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 6: do a food festival. That's how the proposals started to 544 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 6: come into my head for what will become Afria Chilling 545 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 6: later on that for future and you know, I kind 546 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 6: of married all of those. It took me about two 547 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 6: and a half years, three years to kind of just 548 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 6: kind of perfect it into what will become the festival. 549 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 6: And by the time I started doing the research, I 550 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 6: just couldn't afford it in America. I was like, yo, this, 551 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 6: I'm not going into that already OQS money, I'm not 552 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 6: doing that. So you know, I talk to my partner 553 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 6: about it. It was like, you know, let's try and Ghana. 554 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 6: Everybody's coming and this could be opportunity for us to 555 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 6: bring people back, you know. And then you know, I 556 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 6: told them like that, I have always had a venue 557 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 6: in my mind in Ghana that I wanted to use, 558 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 6: and it's called the Akra Polo Club. It's a very 559 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 6: distinguished venue, like real wretch akrah our old money. They 560 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 6: tend to congregate there, but it's a very beautiful when 561 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 6: you land in Ghana. It's one of the first things 562 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 6: you see as you're coming in and it's so beautiful. 563 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 6: So I was like, I want it there, and literally 564 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 6: he was like, you want it there? 565 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 5: Cool. 566 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 6: He called me back in two hours it's booked and 567 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 6: I was like April twenty seventeen and then we had 568 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 6: like about seven to eight months to plan. Will become 569 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 6: the first one. 570 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 7: The inspiration from others drives us forward. 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At the time, we didn't we're 578 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 6: not throwing a festival, so we were just trying to 579 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 6: throw a party, you know, we could get our minds 580 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 6: around a day party festival. We knew that we wanted 581 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 6: the elements of activation. I don't know if you guys 582 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 6: remember twenty seventeen there was that issue in Libya where 583 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 6: they had enslaved people. So after he died, they had 584 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 6: like slavery with black people in Libya. So we had 585 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 6: this non artist's name is Okunta and Ghana. We did 586 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 6: an installation, so that was our first ever installation from 587 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 6: that festival. And then we have vendors. We knew that 588 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 6: if we could stimulate the local businesses or individuals who 589 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 6: wanted to start business and Ghana to vend and create opportunities, 590 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 6: that that would also help us bring out the people. 591 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 6: We had thirty vendors that year. Jamison was the only 592 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 6: partner that was to take a someone. We were brand new. 593 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 6: Nobody really believed in what we were trying to do, 594 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 6: so we really had to put our own money up. 595 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 6: So we put our own money up and we were 596 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 6: shooting for twenty five hundred people, but we ended up 597 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 6: doing forty six hundred people. 598 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 5: How cast intensive is this right? 599 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 7: And you said it was April you came up with it, 600 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 7: obviously you got seven months. What's happening in between seven months? 601 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 7: You're like, is it you and your partner finding the 602 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 7: sponsors going back and forth to Ghana or a cry 603 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 7: specifically like what's happening? 604 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, So at the time, I wasn't going back and 605 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 6: forth to GNA. So the one thing I did know 606 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 6: from research was like my project management skills, So how 607 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 6: to like say, all right, this is the date that 608 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,159 Speaker 6: we started, this is the date that we're ending. Now 609 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 6: let's figure out everything in the middle to kind of 610 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 6: project managing it. At that time, I was the one 611 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 6: going out looking for sponsorship, but I didn't understand the 612 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 6: language of sponsors. So all I knew was that I 613 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 6: have this event, can you put your logo, I'll put 614 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 6: your logo here, put your logo here. But I didn't 615 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 6: realize that, you know, it was about mutual beneficial relationships. 616 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 6: How to kind of bring out the value and their 617 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 6: priorities versus the values and our priorities. So I didn't 618 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 6: understand that. Yeah, so we was like feeling. We didn't 619 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 6: understand why we were feeling because we were selling tickets. 620 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 6: But the one thing that we had that was on 621 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 6: our side was that we were really good at We 622 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 6: had some marketing ideas that we knew was Shock the 623 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 6: Shock Ghana. Like, we put up a billboard for the event, 624 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 6: and people were like, who are these guys? Like, why'all 625 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 6: think y'all could put up a billboard, like you know, 626 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 6: and then the name was afro Cella, so they, you know, 627 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 6: they roasted us all over the gram, all over Twitter, 628 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 6: so that what they say, you know, like who you 629 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 6: guys thinking afro Cella is cochella? You know, they said 630 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 6: a whole bunch of stuff like that at the time, 631 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 6: and you know, were just like, you know, we know 632 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 6: what we're doing when we put the name together Afroachella. 633 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 6: Really we were trying to like communicate echoes of African 634 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 6: sound because you know, the chella just is a real 635 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 6: for us. It's a Latin word for sounds, so we 636 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 6: were trying to say African sounds. But it didn't really 637 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 6: connect with people like that. They thought something else. So 638 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 6: they were roasting us on Twitter like twit black Twitter, 639 00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 6: Donna's America Gone on Twitter was was was unrelentingt to us, 640 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 6: you know, but honestly it made us better because it 641 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 6: kept us on our toes right. And when we put 642 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 6: up the billboard all of that, the momentum came. People 643 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,800 Speaker 6: would tell us they're not going, They're not going, And 644 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 6: then we sold I think three thousand tickets and I'm like, yo, 645 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 6: I don't think we got the space. We need to 646 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 6: stop selling tickets. 647 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 4: Where you selling tickets in Ghana or people from America. 648 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 6: We were selling tickets all over, so we were surprised 649 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 6: that year we still had about thirty percent of people 650 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 6: coming in from America, America, afric from Africa. 651 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: From Africa is the talent involved though. 652 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 6: It was just like at the time, we had some 653 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 6: talent that are now some of the biggest out of Donna. 654 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 6: So we had King Promise, we had Quasi Arthur, Christy 655 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 6: Arthur want to be to Award. King Promise has done 656 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 6: a bunch of songs with kids. He's doing his thing. 657 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 6: And we had this one young lady who was very 658 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 6: promising at the time. Her name was Ebony. We were 659 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 6: her last show. She actually passed a year after, but 660 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 6: she was dance so reggae artists and she was like 661 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 6: really at the top of her game. She was our 662 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 6: biggest asset. But we all we used all rising stars, right, 663 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 6: so we knew that these people were going to be 664 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 6: the next up, but we could afford them because we 665 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 6: didn't really have the budget at the time to kind 666 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 6: of get some of the big acts. And I think 667 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 6: in hindsight that might have been our biggest, our biggest win, 668 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 6: because it kind of took away the focus from just 669 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 6: the talent that on the stage to kind of the 670 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 6: experience and people loved it. And you know, people have 671 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 6: traveled for just that one day in twenty seventeen. We 672 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,280 Speaker 6: have a video on our phone. I said, now, I 673 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 6: traveled here for one day, all the way from Denmark 674 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 6: for one day just to come to this, and I 675 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 6: thought that was very, very beautiful to see that people 676 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 6: believed in what we were doing. So we ended up 677 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 6: stopped ticket sales because we were afraid that we were 678 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 6: going to oversell and we weren't going to be able 679 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 6: to deliver. But my partners and I went back and forth, 680 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 6: but we ended up capping at forty six hundred people 681 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 6: on the first year, and we had so many ideas 682 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 6: that we didn't get to execute how much with the 683 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 6: ticket prices. 684 00:30:58,760 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 5: I think the. 685 00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 6: Ticket prices then was like forty dollars, forty dollars. I 686 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 6: think forty dollars was VDP and I think twenty five 687 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 6: dollars or something like that. I don't, I don't, I 688 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 6: don't really remember. That's a long time ago. Actually, I 689 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 6: shouldn't know that. I'm gonna go for I got I 690 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 6: gotta go research that. But I think it was like 691 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 6: forty dollars maximum. We weren't trying to charge too much, 692 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 6: you know, we had Jamison supporting us, and it was successful. 693 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 5: It was good. 694 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 6: We were able to close it no issues, and we 695 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 6: knew we had something and we knew we had ideas 696 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 6: that we wanted to execute. So the next year we expanded. 697 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 6: We went to a stadium, and then we got roasted 698 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 6: again because we had used a venue called Elwak Stadium 699 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 6: that was a rundown park that people went to go train, 700 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 6: play soccer on, or run around, but nobody really did 701 00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 6: events there. It was a stadium, but we had a 702 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,160 Speaker 6: vision that we could recreate this to make this look 703 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 6: something completely different. We got roasted again, But it was 704 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 6: a great year in twenty eighteen because we went from 705 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 6: forty six hundred to twelve thousand, five hundred people and 706 00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 6: we had bigger artists that year. We had stone Boy, 707 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 6: who is right now going around a circuit just signed 708 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 6: a deaf jam, doing amazing work. He was a headliner 709 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 6: that year. We also always have like an old school 710 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 6: legacy act people that our parents probably saw but none 711 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 6: of us saw it, and performing, so we wanted to 712 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 6: kind of bring all of that element. That was also 713 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 6: the first year that a lot of black Hollywood started 714 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 6: to come to the events, So we had Jackieyaina, we 715 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: had Boris Kujo and his wife and some of the others. 716 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 6: Ebro I think was there in twenty eighteen as well 717 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 6: for our first big one, So we went from forty 718 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 6: five hundred forty six hundred to twelve thousand, five hundred. 719 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 6: I don't think we were even prepare for that scale 720 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 6: as far as the team, as far as just that structure, 721 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 6: or even understanding how to manage the festival. 722 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 5: How was the marketing right? Because you went that that 723 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 5: takes a lot. 724 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 7: You go from Fourenty to twelve, almost thirteen thousand and 725 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 7: now you're getting I guess you're getting black Americans. I 726 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 7: guess the Lebretans to come. What's the marketing or is 727 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 7: It was just like people. It was word of mouth. 728 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was word of mouth, and it was like 729 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 6: you could feel the energy in the city. You knew 730 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 6: you had to go there. We didn't have any paid 731 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 6: dollars behind any marketing at that time. We didn't have 732 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 6: any really marketing experience. We didn't have a marketing person. 733 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 5: Really. 734 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 6: What our model was like a payer forward method. You know, 735 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 6: if you went more often than not, you brought like 736 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 6: two more people with you, and that kind of helped 737 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 6: us grow very organically. And everyone that couldn't go the 738 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 6: first year had that so much fun that they wanted 739 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 6: to come the second year. And then twenty eighteen obviously 740 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 6: it went viral. It hit trade room and everybody saw 741 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 6: all the celebs dancing with you know, with Pope folks. 742 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 6: And that year some more Americans came in and their 743 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 6: post went viral because people couldn't understand how like these 744 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 6: people were just having such a great time. It was 745 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 6: that year that Ghana announced the year of return in 746 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, and that would be twenty nineteen. 747 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 4: The year of return. People that don't know what that is. 748 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, so the year return marked four hundred years since 749 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 6: the first ever slave ships moved from Jamestown across to Jamestown, 750 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 6: Virginia and Ghana. 751 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 4: It's called Jamestown Jamestown, a crow Jamestown and craw. Is 752 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 4: that is that for a reason? No, it's going from 753 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 4: Jamestown Jamestown. Is that just a coincidence or is that. 754 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 6: It's not a coincidence. I think it was named by 755 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 6: the fort. The fort that was. 756 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 4: Being like they purposely like, this is Jamestown here and 757 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 4: it's going to Jamestown here. Correct, the same. 758 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 6: Correct, the same fort travel batter the same to be 759 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,879 Speaker 6: called the same thing exactly. Maybe that might be the case, 760 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 6: but I gotta get back to it now. I don't know, 761 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 6: but I would say that that was four hundred years 762 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 6: since that first ever migration, the first lag has ever 763 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 6: left Ghana, like the sixteen sixteen nineteen project, right, So 764 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,360 Speaker 6: Ghana proclaimed that four hundred years as the year of return. 765 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,280 Speaker 6: When you go to Ghana and you visit the slave castles, 766 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 6: you'll see this door of no return, and it was 767 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 6: the last door that slaves went through to be able 768 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,320 Speaker 6: to kind of see their lives in Ghana. That was 769 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,960 Speaker 6: the last time when you went through that gate, you 770 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 6: were just going into slaver why you were never coming back. 771 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,720 Speaker 6: So the idea was for us to kind of open 772 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,799 Speaker 6: the door for people to return. And what they did was, 773 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 6: I guess one of the first ever slaves that moved 774 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 6: from Ghana, individuals that became slaves that were enslaved that 775 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 6: moved from Ghana was returned through the door and was 776 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 6: buried in the castle and they marked it as he 777 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 6: ever turned. So Ghana started using as opportunity to invite 778 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 6: descendants of enslaved people to come back to Ghana and 779 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 6: be able to kind of seek residency, to be able 780 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 6: to engage with the people, and to open up really 781 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 6: dialogue between the diaspora and Ghana specifically, and honestly that 782 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 6: has opened the door for many other countries to also 783 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 6: visit to invite people back as well. It was an 784 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 6: amazing experience because you will walk down the block and 785 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,760 Speaker 6: you will see somebody that you had no idea whatever 786 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 6: be in Ghana. An example of that is my partner 787 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 6: Kenny was outside the festival and he ran into the 788 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 6: third grade teacher and she asked him what was he doing. 789 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 6: He's like, well, this is my event. That me that 790 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 6: was beautiful people that I never imagined in my life 791 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 6: that I went to high school with, that came to Ghana, 792 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 6: that would be in Ghana shocked me because I just 793 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 6: never ever thought that they would be in Ghana, or 794 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 6: enjoy Ghana or even consider it. So it was an 795 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 6: amazing year because that year alone, Ghana gave over a 796 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 6: million of visas out and granted a million plus visas. 797 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 6: And to put that in context, Ghana normally too about 798 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 6: one hundred and fifty thousand a year, so to do 799 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,719 Speaker 6: a million visas and that year was a very big 800 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 6: deal and sixteen percent of that was because of our 801 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 6: festival as well. 802 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 7: So there's a part there that kind of gets overlooked. 803 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 7: It's like, you guys know you have something special. Yeah, 804 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,799 Speaker 7: but the government must know you have something special as well. 805 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 7: At what point do they say, we need to figure 806 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 7: out who these guys are, we need to work with them, 807 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 7: let's work together, because I know at some point you 808 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 7: become like the ambassador of tourism. 809 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 6: Yeah, So it became in twenty nineteen was the first 810 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 6: year we had a partnership official partnership with Gano Tourism 811 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 6: Authority that granted us opportunities to open up these own arrivals, 812 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 6: gave us opportunities to kind of push through policies things 813 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,880 Speaker 6: that nature to kind of reduce the kind of issues 814 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 6: that people were facing and get into Ghana, whether it 815 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 6: was you know, immigration issues, whether it was like you know, 816 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,319 Speaker 6: you had to have vaccine cards, those kind of things 817 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 6: we were able to kind of like clear so people 818 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 6: could not have too many issues or barriers to coming 819 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 6: into the country as well. Those kind of things were 820 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 6: some of the things we were able to do in 821 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,799 Speaker 6: the first year. They're also able to help us logistically 822 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 6: around the country to kind of reduce the amount of 823 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 6: issues that we were facing with maybe hotel bookings or 824 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 6: like police escorts or military escorts where necessary, even the venue. 825 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 6: There's a military venue that we use as well, so 826 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 6: just kind of navigating that and making sure we have 827 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 6: all the permits with some of the things that they 828 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 6: were able to help us. In twenty twenty one, we 829 00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 6: actually became good with baskets to Ghana and then we 830 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 6: were challenged to bring what twenty thousand people to Donna 831 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 6: for our festival, and we were able to do that 832 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 6: and accomplish that. So as of right now, I'm still 833 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 6: a good willing basket. 834 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,960 Speaker 4: So all right, so you go. And this is similar 835 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 4: to cause we do a festival calling Best Fest. 836 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 6: Yeah. 837 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 4: So the first year we did it, we have like 838 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 4: four thousand people. In the second year we have fourteen 839 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,520 Speaker 4: thousand people, and now we're looking at twenty thousand for 840 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 4: this year, the third year. So we know about scaling 841 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 4: the festival and we know about how challenging it is. 842 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 4: So let's take this apart booking talent. That's not easy. No, 843 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 4: talk about that. Talk about booking and talent and the 844 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 4: rioters and paying on artists and variety of different things 845 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 4: are coming into that. 846 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 5: All right. 847 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 6: So some of the things that we have in place 848 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 6: in Ghana that is a big asset to us is 849 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 6: the infrastructure around us. So my partner Kenny manages an 850 00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:02,840 Speaker 6: entire media studio with TV radio, all of that in 851 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 6: Ghana and we have that. Another partner of ours, BB 852 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,400 Speaker 6: and Z Live, is a creative studio. They also have 853 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 6: TV station, radio station, newspaper print as well. So as 854 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,520 Speaker 6: far as the structure in a record label. So at 855 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:22,439 Speaker 6: the time BB and Z was managing Yea as well, 856 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,760 Speaker 6: and they also did tours for Lauren Hill. So actually 857 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 6: in twenty eighteen, Laura Hill did our first opening party 858 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 6: for the festival in twenty eighteen, so that that was 859 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,120 Speaker 6: Miss Lauren Hill. She she she really showed love, but 860 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 6: she was on time. She was on time. She's like 861 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,040 Speaker 6: a big friend of her family. Like in Ghana. Our 862 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 6: partner Alvin does a lot of work with her around 863 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 6: bringing an African artists to America and work with her. 864 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 6: So she did a tour Deasper calling first time. A 865 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 6: lot of the artists like mister Easy Stone Boy and 866 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 6: some of these were on the stage. So she always 867 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 6: showed love to us. So these things that we have 868 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 6: in place allowed us to be able to do a 869 00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 6: lot of things a lot easier. So we've had the 870 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,520 Speaker 6: same booker since twenty seventeen. Her name is Kadija. She 871 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 6: works for a record label now, but she has relationships 872 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 6: with almost all the artists at least in West Africa, 873 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 6: and that allows us to be able to kind of 874 00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,160 Speaker 6: talk to talent and say, hey, look this is what 875 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 6: we need. The structure of agencies are now coming to 876 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 6: Africa where some artists are signing with agencies like CAAW. 877 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 6: I mean things that nature, but on the content. When 878 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 6: you're on the content that it's like, I don't need 879 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 6: to go and talk to WSA Europe. I could talk 880 00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 6: to the manager that lives up the block. So she 881 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 6: has done an amazing job at making sure that we've 882 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 6: been able to get any artists we want as long 883 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 6: as our budget suffice this money. 884 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 7: It comes with a lot of questions, how do I save? 885 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 7: Where should I invest? Can I build wealth to pass on? 886 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 7: It's hard to know where to get the answers. That's 887 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 7: why the people at Fidelity do what they do. They 888 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,719 Speaker 7: make it easier for you to get information to make 889 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 7: better money decisions. 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Want to learn more, visit 899 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 7: fidelity dot com slash black Wealth. 900 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 6: And pretty much that's how we've been doing that now. 901 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 6: You see in Africa, getting the talent to agree to perform. 902 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 5: Is one job. 903 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 6: The negative job to perform get them to before late. 904 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 4: Like we'll discuss a hell she's a legend, but obviously 905 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,320 Speaker 4: she's had issues with being late to shows, but people 906 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 4: don't like that's a nightmare for a promoter or somebody 907 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 4: doing Like you think somebody's coming on an eighth, you 908 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,480 Speaker 4: don't come on to eleven, and then people's getting restless 909 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 4: and they like, I want my money back. So you've 910 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 4: had issues with artists being late though, right. 911 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 6: I've had issues not necessarily late, but more so Yeah, 912 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 6: I guess you could call it late, but more so 913 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 6: like difficult to deal with, as in maybe we can't 914 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 6: get their biometric pages to book their flights in time, 915 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 6: or maybe last minute they want to you know, they 916 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 6: feel like they are a bigger artist now they want 917 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 6: more money, or maybe the rider is just like, you know, 918 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 6: just ridiculous, or maybe they signed a contract and they 919 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,240 Speaker 6: want to chrain. We've had situations where an artist signed 920 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 6: a contract we paid, they asked for one hundred percent 921 00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 6: of the money up front, which is something we never do. 922 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 6: But for this particular artist, we knew he was going 923 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 6: to be the next one. We're like, you know what, 924 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 6: we'll pay you one hundred percent out of other fee. 925 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 6: And then, you know, at the time it was just 926 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 6: five flights. We're like, all right, cool, we could do 927 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 6: five flights, it's not that bad. And then, you know, 928 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,920 Speaker 6: closer to the show, he's like, yeah, you know, I 929 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 6: know I said five flights, but you know, if you 930 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 6: guys can give me the money. No, actually, can you 931 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 6: guys get us a private jet? And we're like, no, 932 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,000 Speaker 6: we're probably not going to get your private jet. We 933 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,279 Speaker 6: agreed to five flights. It's like, well, can you guys 934 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 6: give us the money then we'll cover the rest on 935 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 6: a private jet. It was like, well, it's too late 936 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 6: because we buy a flight some bulk, so there's no 937 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,759 Speaker 6: way we could get you this get your private jet. 938 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 6: So in those situations it get dicey because you never 939 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 6: know whether the artist is going to show or not 940 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,359 Speaker 6: are they going to get on the flight? You know, 941 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 6: I think that those are some of the difficulties that 942 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 6: we have faced as far as talents are concerned. You know, 943 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,839 Speaker 6: in Africa, also in Ghana just went through a very 944 00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 6: big inflation process, like where one dollar went up to 945 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 6: about fifteen ghand of cities for a reference, when we 946 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,279 Speaker 6: started the festival in twenty seventeen, one dollar was three 947 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 6: Ghana cities and even in twenty nineteen one dollar was 948 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 6: about maybe four ghan of cities at maximum. So in 949 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, for one dollar to be at twelve thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, 950 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,719 Speaker 6: you can imagine like the cost of everything just kind 951 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 6: of went crazy across the board. So it was it 952 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 6: was very difficult for us to kind of like navigate 953 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 6: flights and all of that stuff as well. So when 954 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 6: artists are charging what they're charging now, right, last year 955 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 6: we had burna Boy, so you can already know what 956 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 6: he called y last year. Yeah, burna Boy last year? 957 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,319 Speaker 6: How was he charged a lot of money? I don't know, 958 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,320 Speaker 6: it's close. It's close, I mean, you know, it's close, 959 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 6: like it's very close to that. The year before we 960 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 6: have whiz Kid so you you know, like these rates 961 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 6: are not like cheap, They're not cheap. And it's like 962 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 6: fifteen twenty thirty artists on on on the billow some 963 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 6: of them, some of them show love. So we have 964 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 6: very good relationships with a lot of artists, but you 965 00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 6: know a lot of artists because now you have like 966 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 6: a live nation that's going to give you thirty shows. 967 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, it's you're not incentivized to 968 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 6: kind of say you know what, like you know what 969 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:48,920 Speaker 6: I mean, you. 970 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:50,960 Speaker 4: Know what festivals, festivals messed up. 971 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 5: So we This episode is brought to you by P 972 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:55,879 Speaker 5: and C Bank. 973 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 7: A lot of people think podcasts about work are boring, 974 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,120 Speaker 7: and sure they definitely can be, but understanding a professionals 975 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 7: routine shows us how they achieve their success little by little, 976 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 7: day after day. 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Yeah, 1027 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,920 Speaker 4: there's many fALS that all these artists are getting paid 1028 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:07,640 Speaker 4: crazy amount of money, more money than they traditionally should 1029 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 4: get or they even deserve to be completely honest with 1030 00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 4: you about and now that that's over inflating their overinflating 1031 00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 4: the market. 1032 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,960 Speaker 6: Yeah. So it's like it's really about competition. 1033 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 5: Right. 1034 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 6: So if I if you are really worked three hundred, 1035 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,360 Speaker 6: but you know this guy over here is costing you 1036 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 6: seven hundred, it is giving you seven hundred, You're going 1037 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 6: to want to take that seven hundred. It doesn't matter 1038 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 6: what relationship you have with me. You're going to come 1039 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:34,920 Speaker 6: back and say, Yo, I know you offering three hundred, 1040 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:36,839 Speaker 6: that's my rape, but this guy's offering me seven hundred. 1041 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 5: I got to take that. 1042 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 6: And a lot of that. We were dealing with a 1043 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 6: lot of that, right because as we open up the market, 1044 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 6: some of the things we learned in twenty seventeen, we 1045 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:48,200 Speaker 6: create a swat analysis, like you know, strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, threats. 1046 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,760 Speaker 6: We always knew that because we didn't have a crazy 1047 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 6: big investment, We never raised this was my money and 1048 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,319 Speaker 6: my partner's money and our teams money. Right, we knew 1049 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 6: that somebody with bigger pockets open up the market could 1050 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 6: come in and like really take over our market, or 1051 00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 6: try to at least, So for us, it was about 1052 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 6: the strategy was about having deep roots in the community 1053 00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 6: so that even if they did come in, we could survive. 1054 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 6: And we've survived with that. But when there are multiple 1055 00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,280 Speaker 6: things happening at the same time, what ended up happening 1056 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 6: is this competition for cost, right because if and that's 1057 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 6: you know in Ghana also that just doesn't just talk 1058 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,040 Speaker 6: about artists, it talks about equipment, right, So if you 1059 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,920 Speaker 6: have a camera person that like owns x amount of 1060 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 6: cameras and there are multiple events, then they're going to 1061 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 6: be able to start a bit of war. As you know, 1062 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,439 Speaker 6: this is because there's only very few you know, people 1063 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 6: who can do the expertise. 1064 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 5: Right. 1065 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,680 Speaker 6: A flyer in Ghana can cost you anywhere between seventy 1066 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 6: five dollars and one hundred dollars for. 1067 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,239 Speaker 4: A fly For a flyer with that hundred dollars is 1068 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 4: the equivalent of ten. 1069 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 6: Dollars, No, one hundred dollars a US dollars for a 1070 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 6: proper flyer. Now out here you can get a forty 1071 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,200 Speaker 6: dollars fifty dollars because there's so many people you can 1072 00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 6: go to, but there are very few who can do 1073 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,040 Speaker 6: at the quality that we needed to in guard us. 1074 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,479 Speaker 6: So because of that, it costs more. 1075 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,759 Speaker 7: So they're real quick because now I'm thinking about the cost, 1076 00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 7: and like, obviously one of the things that could combat 1077 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:12,200 Speaker 7: that cost to alleviate the court is sponsorship. And so 1078 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 7: before in twenty seventeen, you didn't have the LEA said 1079 00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 7: you didn't have the language, So I'm assuming that that's 1080 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 7: something that you had to learn when you guys went down. 1081 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 5: You thought about strength and weaknesses. 1082 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 7: So what is some of the language and getting sponsorship 1083 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:27,279 Speaker 7: because it's not easy, right, like, especially when you want 1084 00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 7: to have a large scale event and you've seen scaling 1085 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 7: throughout the years, how do we now approach sponsors and 1086 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 7: use the properate language to say this is going to 1087 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:36,560 Speaker 7: help your brand as well? 1088 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say the first So look at sponsors 1089 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,080 Speaker 6: are easier for us to get because obviously we had 1090 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:44,600 Speaker 6: people there, so it was easy for them to kind 1091 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:47,839 Speaker 6: of come in and activate. In twenty nineteen, we had 1092 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 6: twenty eighteen, we had like a few other smaller brands 1093 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 6: that came on and gave us some money. In twenty 1094 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,520 Speaker 6: nineteen is when we had the biggest sponsors, right. We 1095 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,839 Speaker 6: had Twitter. Twitter was the first major sponsors that we had. 1096 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 6: We had a hashtag emoji. They came built an activation. 1097 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 6: They sent individuals down to kind of create content with us. 1098 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 6: It was a year before they opened up their office 1099 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 6: in Ghana and they marked us as one of the 1100 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 6: reasons as a partner, and it was their first ever 1101 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 6: activation on the continent. By that time, we had understood 1102 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,879 Speaker 6: what we had. We understood the data. We understood where 1103 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 6: they were coming from, their age range, the depending capacity. 1104 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:26,319 Speaker 6: We understood their buying habits, things that they liked. We 1105 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 6: had feet surveys from them about what was good, what 1106 00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 6: was bad, what opportunities were that we could attendees the attendees. 1107 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,160 Speaker 6: So now I can go and sit to a sponsor 1108 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 6: and just not tell them I have an event. I 1109 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,680 Speaker 6: can tell them, well, I have thirty percent our men 1110 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 6: from this age and sixty percent of women from this age. 1111 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 6: They like this. They're like dogs, they like this, you know. 1112 00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,640 Speaker 6: So you know, if you have a company that's interested 1113 00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 6: in this kind of market how can we work together. 1114 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 6: You know, at the time, we knew Twitter eventually was 1115 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,000 Speaker 6: going to open an office in Ghana, so we know, look, 1116 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,040 Speaker 6: this is an opportunity for us to work together to 1117 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 6: kind of create an experience right here. We also had 1118 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:05,080 Speaker 6: Uber that year that was also launching in Ghana, so 1119 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,440 Speaker 6: we were able to kind of use their platform to 1120 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 6: kind of communicate to people, but also get people to 1121 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,600 Speaker 6: just kind of reduce the amount of cars they were 1122 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 6: taking by taking Ubers and creating an opportunity there. So 1123 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 6: we at the time we knew how to like utilize 1124 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,759 Speaker 6: our space and optimize it to kind of bring more 1125 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 6: partners into the space, and we've grown ever since. Last 1126 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 6: year was the first year we actually had a partnership 1127 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 6: team to kind of build a partnership program that just 1128 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,880 Speaker 6: really kind of understands like how to parse out every 1129 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:36,000 Speaker 6: single aspect of our festival ground, from the barricades to 1130 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:40,320 Speaker 6: the entrances, to the exits, to the staging, to the 1131 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 6: different screens in the space, to the bars, to like 1132 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:47,080 Speaker 6: every single piece of the space that we have that 1133 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,719 Speaker 6: we can monetize. We look to try and monetize and 1134 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,560 Speaker 6: that gave sponsors more opportunities. And then we also realized 1135 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,439 Speaker 6: that because it was Africa and a lot of them 1136 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:00,040 Speaker 6: didn't have offices in Africa, it was very difficult for 1137 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 6: them to market. So the work that we were doing, 1138 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 6: we're being a trust broker. At the same time, we 1139 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 6: were being an influencer because we're bringing them to the market. 1140 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:09,400 Speaker 6: And then at the same time we would be in 1141 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 6: an agency because we were the first one like kind 1142 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 6: of bringing. 1143 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,160 Speaker 5: Them to the space. 1144 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 6: So we had to create more events around the festival 1145 00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:19,040 Speaker 6: to give them multiple touch points so that they can 1146 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,400 Speaker 6: like optimize their institution. One of the things that I 1147 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 6: learned is that, yeah, you may be working with Twitter, 1148 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 6: but there's Twitter marketing, there's Twitter for you know, for 1149 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 6: a podcast. This is just an example of Twitter for 1150 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,520 Speaker 6: cartoons Twitter. So understanding that although there's one company, there 1151 00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 6: are multiple businesses within the company that have different budgets, 1152 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:41,160 Speaker 6: and understanding how to like optimize all of those parts 1153 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 6: of the company to come together to support you in 1154 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 6: order to be able to maximize the dollars that are 1155 00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,359 Speaker 6: coming in. With some of the things that we had 1156 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,680 Speaker 6: to learn and we didn't know upfront, and you know, luckily, 1157 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 6: a bit of partnership is also like who you know 1158 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 6: as well? Like right, you can't you know you can 1159 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 6: co email a company sometimes you may get a responsible 1160 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 6: For the most part, the people that were in there 1161 00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 6: that I also believed in what we were doing made 1162 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,400 Speaker 6: it very easy for us to kind of like understand 1163 00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 6: how to position ourselves to to to get the best 1164 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,080 Speaker 6: support from that from the companies. 1165 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,320 Speaker 7: So the other part right like now you've got sponsorships 1166 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,879 Speaker 7: but accommodations, yeah, right, so like are you reaching out 1167 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 7: to the local like hotels and obviously the air airlines? 1168 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 5: Like how do how do you get partnerships? And then 1169 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 5: but who do you speak to? How did that process go? Yeah? 1170 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,880 Speaker 6: With the hotels, it was a lot. It was a 1171 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 6: lot easier, but not so much. In Ghana, we have 1172 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,960 Speaker 6: the Kimpinsk, which is the hotel that everybody wants to 1173 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 6: stay at. You know, hopefully we got that book for 1174 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:40,319 Speaker 6: you guys right now. 1175 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 5: There's no hopefully, ye we need we. 1176 00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 6: Need that book for you guys right now, y'all need 1177 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,719 Speaker 6: to be at the Kopinsk. Uh. The moving pick is 1178 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,400 Speaker 6: the next step, right, and then there are boutique hotels 1179 00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 6: like the Quality's the one to Oxford, those kind of 1180 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 6: hotels are nice as well, but you know, really everybody 1181 00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,480 Speaker 6: that somebody wants to stay at these top hotel so 1182 00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,960 Speaker 6: really going there you have to have money to put down. 1183 00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 6: So if you're getting forty fifty rooms, you have to 1184 00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,400 Speaker 6: be able to pay it upfront and be able to 1185 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 6: cover that cost of front. So we were doing that. 1186 00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,160 Speaker 6: We would do blocks, so we would work with different 1187 00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,799 Speaker 6: travel agencies to do blocks to try and block it off. 1188 00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 6: Like I know Essence Festival when they do it, they 1189 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,239 Speaker 6: block off the entire New Orleans so you can't really 1190 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:20,840 Speaker 6: come in there. So the goal is to get to 1191 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 6: a place where we can block off the whole thing 1192 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,799 Speaker 6: and really kind of be able to put more toll 1193 00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:26,719 Speaker 6: gates for us to be able to optimize the money 1194 00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,959 Speaker 6: that we're bringing in. Because we know, like every single 1195 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,560 Speaker 6: person that comes into Gana spends about twenty six hundred 1196 00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:36,160 Speaker 6: and fifty dollars on average. So if you multiply that 1197 00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:38,319 Speaker 6: by the amount of people, Let's just say last year 1198 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 6: we did thirty thousand, that's a lot of money. But 1199 00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,120 Speaker 6: I'm not getting all of that money. So how do 1200 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,080 Speaker 6: we kind of create more toll bridges to be able 1201 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,360 Speaker 6: to get more of that? Is where we're living in 1202 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 6: to kind of figure out how to make this more 1203 00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 6: of a business. So whether it's verticaling things like creating 1204 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:58,919 Speaker 6: more jobs. So we know that last year we knew 1205 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,560 Speaker 6: we needed cleaning, created a cleaning service so that they 1206 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 6: can clean our space, so that we can pay them 1207 00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 6: at a rate that made sense, but we can also 1208 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 6: keep some of the money back as opposed to outsource 1209 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:14,319 Speaker 6: into an agency, or whether it's creating, like owning my 1210 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 6: own equipment. Right, so this year I'm buying all my 1211 00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,160 Speaker 6: stages and everything like that as well, so that I 1212 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,200 Speaker 6: don't I can reduce that cost. I know that my 1213 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 6: biggest expense is the talent, which is a constant is 1214 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 6: always gonna go up, and then there's a production cost, 1215 00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 6: which it is not it's not necessarily a it's a 1216 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 6: constant as well. But if I own most of the equipment, 1217 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 6: I can reduce that off of my books so that 1218 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 6: you know, and I can rent it out and I 1219 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,640 Speaker 6: can make I can make some money from it as well. 1220 00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,759 Speaker 6: So those are some of the things that I'm like, 1221 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,840 Speaker 6: we're thinking about just to kind of be able to 1222 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 6: kind of make it better, but also like also raising 1223 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,000 Speaker 6: if you go out in New York it could be 1224 00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 6: like ten different clubs popping at one time, and Ghana 1225 00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 6: is not quite like that yet. You know, everybody kind 1226 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,600 Speaker 6: of like migrates to the same place. So we're all 1227 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,400 Speaker 6: at twists. All right, cool, we leave twist. We're all 1228 00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,640 Speaker 6: gonna go to the front back. Okay, everbody's going from 1229 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 6: going to ace to the sunrises. You know pretty much. 1230 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,239 Speaker 6: That's literally how it is. So having all of these 1231 00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,719 Speaker 6: venues stand on their own is another thing. And you 1232 00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 6: do that by bringing more people in the market. And 1233 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,240 Speaker 6: you know, so we need the government to do that obviously, 1234 00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 6: because the more money people have, the more they probably 1235 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,440 Speaker 6: are going to put into the economy. 1236 00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 4: So as far as your data, it's extremely important. And 1237 00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 4: like you said, for sponsors, let's drill down on this, 1238 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,840 Speaker 4: like when you do when you're solicitating sponsors, they want 1239 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 4: to know like what information. So you had mentioned like 1240 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 4: you know, as far as where the people are coming from, 1241 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,840 Speaker 4: you know, the money that they're spending, not just like okay, 1242 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 4: I got their email and got their phone number, Like 1243 00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 4: the percentage that are men, the percentage that are women, 1244 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,440 Speaker 4: the age range, how do you find out that information? 1245 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,560 Speaker 6: So I we did surveys on our on our website. 1246 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 6: So whenever you fill out to board buy a ticket, 1247 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,760 Speaker 6: these information you filled out it was required information. 1248 00:57:58,440 --> 00:57:59,920 Speaker 4: It's required or yeah, we applied. 1249 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,520 Speaker 6: We require people to let us know like who was 1250 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 6: coming into the country that was under our purview, right, 1251 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 6: you don't you know we don't. Obviously the information is 1252 00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,680 Speaker 6: blinded and you know we can't share it, and you 1253 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,120 Speaker 6: know it's all in our like our lawyer has all 1254 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,320 Speaker 6: the language in there when you when you buy a ticket, 1255 00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 6: but that information is given to us. It also is 1256 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 6: given to us through the medic data of our socials, 1257 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,120 Speaker 6: so we're able to come compare it, and then our 1258 00:58:23,120 --> 00:58:25,400 Speaker 6: website also is able to kind of like if you 1259 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 6: look at the back of the square space, you'll be 1260 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:28,840 Speaker 6: able to kind of tell where all people are coming 1261 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:32,280 Speaker 6: up and what they're doing in that space as well. 1262 00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 6: So now if you look at the analytics on your 1263 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,360 Speaker 6: social pathform, you'll be able to kind of see like 1264 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,840 Speaker 6: who's following you and like like how much money they 1265 00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,320 Speaker 6: make and things of that nature. So all of that 1266 00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 6: information is there for you. Now is about how you 1267 00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 6: use it to kind of make sense, right, because if 1268 00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,600 Speaker 6: you look at the analytics behind your Instagram for instance, 1269 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 6: it will tell you really how to like market to 1270 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,920 Speaker 6: your audience, when's the best time to market to your audience. 1271 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,600 Speaker 6: So all of those things are some of the things 1272 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 6: that we've optimized to kind of make make make it 1273 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:01,880 Speaker 6: make sense. I knew that women were our biggest customer, 1274 00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 6: so last year we know we needed to put a 1275 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,440 Speaker 6: beauty experience in there, so we got fenty Beauty to 1276 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,280 Speaker 6: come in. With the percentage of women versus men I 1277 00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,360 Speaker 6: think sixty percent. I think that's one of the main 1278 00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,439 Speaker 6: reason why a lot of people love it. There's nothing 1279 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,600 Speaker 6: there's not there's no shortage of women that are coming 1280 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,400 Speaker 6: into the Guna during that time. 1281 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,720 Speaker 4: How do you mention the economic impact, Well. 1282 00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:25,200 Speaker 6: The economic impact is there. We have testimonials. There's somebody 1283 00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:27,720 Speaker 6: who said, you know, because you know, when we announced 1284 00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 6: that last year will be the last one, there were 1285 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 6: a lot of people that were kind of like sad 1286 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,400 Speaker 6: because we can tell that somebody was like, I made 1287 00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 6: a hundred thousand over airbnbs and just the years that 1288 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,960 Speaker 6: they existed, Right, you can tell by more venues are opening, right, 1289 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 6: there's so many new venues since twenty seventeen up until now, 1290 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,479 Speaker 6: so that's one way for us to be able to tell. 1291 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 6: We can tell by the amount of people that are 1292 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:50,760 Speaker 6: coming into a country. If sixteen percent of people are 1293 00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 6: coming in for tourism, right, that's and each of them 1294 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,280 Speaker 6: are spending two thousand, six hundred and fifty. If you 1295 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 6: multiply sixteen percent of let's say a million, which is 1296 00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,480 Speaker 6: the aount of people that came in twenty seventeen, and 1297 01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,840 Speaker 6: you multiply that by two twenty six fifty, which is 1298 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 6: the average spend that gotten the government report has given us, 1299 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:12,400 Speaker 6: that's a couple couple like a couple couple million, a 1300 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 6: couple of hundred million, right, So it's like we're bringing 1301 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,919 Speaker 6: in a lot of people into the country and each 1302 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,960 Speaker 6: one is spending x amount on average, and if they're 1303 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 6: spending x amount, that's how you know that the impact 1304 01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,480 Speaker 6: that you're having on the community. And we wanted to 1305 01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 6: know that because we wanted to be able to go 1306 01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 6: and say, hey, our event alone is bringing in this 1307 01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 6: amount of people, what can you do? And some of 1308 01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:33,560 Speaker 6: it we tested as well. When we announced that we 1309 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,360 Speaker 6: weren't going, we got a lot of calls from the 1310 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 6: government to sit down and talk about how this is 1311 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 6: you know, supporting tourism. Another thing is we've seen that 1312 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 6: a lot more brands are willing to come into the 1313 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 6: space because of us and through us to come in. 1314 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,560 Speaker 6: You know, we started off with Twitter, but we've worked 1315 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:52,040 Speaker 6: with Amazon, I'm sorry, We've worked with excuse me now, Amazon. 1316 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:52,680 Speaker 5: We've worked with. 1317 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 6: Meta, We've worked with Instagram, We've worked with Tonecore, Sony Music, 1318 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 6: We've worked with Audio Mac. Audio Mac for instance, you know, 1319 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,640 Speaker 6: credits us as one of the main reasons why they've 1320 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 6: been able to grow their audience in Ghana and across 1321 01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:07,960 Speaker 6: West Africa as well. We've done a lot of work 1322 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,080 Speaker 6: with them, so our relationship building and the partners that 1323 01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:13,960 Speaker 6: we've built our clear examples of how we can, like 1324 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:17,080 Speaker 6: you know, acknowledge how much we've done. For instance, when 1325 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:20,000 Speaker 6: we started in twenty eighteen, Spotify was not even looking 1326 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:22,440 Speaker 6: at West Africa as an option of a place for 1327 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,080 Speaker 6: them to come in. And it's interesting because Spotify had 1328 01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,520 Speaker 6: one of the best playlists in afrobeats ever because they 1329 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 6: had a guy there named Tunde who understood the music 1330 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:36,040 Speaker 6: and he broke it down into different genres of African music. 1331 01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 6: So that I'm my pianos the African fusion, the ar 1332 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,120 Speaker 6: Zoom tool music. He broke it down that way and 1333 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,360 Speaker 6: he was driving it so well, but they end up 1334 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaker 6: closing out his whole department. Two three years later, Spotify 1335 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,880 Speaker 6: does the activation in Ghana, which is interesting to me. 1336 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,640 Speaker 6: So that tells us about the impact as well that 1337 01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 6: we've that we've been able to do, and also our 1338 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:02,280 Speaker 6: numbers keep growing. You've never had a downpour out like 1339 01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:06,800 Speaker 6: you know, a downward try of you know, of attendees. 1340 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 6: Last year we did thirty thousand, twenty much this year. 1341 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,440 Speaker 6: This year, well, we're hoping to go forty thou twenty 1342 01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 6: thousand this day, you know, over over two days. But 1343 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 6: last year we did thirty thousand over two days. The 1344 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,080 Speaker 6: year before that was the pandemic year. We worked with 1345 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 6: Ghanda's government to write the rules to open up you know, 1346 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 6: you know, events for everyone in the contract, and we 1347 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,080 Speaker 6: did ten thousand and five and that was because of 1348 01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,760 Speaker 6: a government limit. 1349 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,040 Speaker 4: So twenty thousand each day? Is that? With that? Is 1350 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,800 Speaker 4: it twenty thousand because it's the same people each day, 1351 01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,120 Speaker 4: all right? 1352 01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, but you kind of by individuals. 1353 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 5: That come in. 1354 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 7: Yeah, so if you had forty thousands, I'm just doing 1355 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,880 Speaker 7: the math, right, If you have forty thousand people at 1356 01:02:43,880 --> 01:02:45,640 Speaker 7: that average spend, that's over one hundred million. 1357 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1358 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:49,520 Speaker 7: If the government said in twenty seventeen they brought in 1359 01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,800 Speaker 7: a million people came in it was sixteen percent of 1360 01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,320 Speaker 7: your audience and they did that, that's like four hundred million. 1361 01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1362 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 6: Wait explaining that to be so like I. 1363 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,360 Speaker 7: Said, it was a million people that came into Ghana, Yeah, 1364 01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,000 Speaker 7: in twenty nineteen, So sixteen percent of the people that 1365 01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:06,440 Speaker 7: came into one hundred and sixty thousand people, if they 1366 01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,520 Speaker 7: all spend twenty six to fifty, it's like that's four hundred. 1367 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 6: That's correct, But that's for the whole country, for the country. 1368 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 6: They came to Ghana because of the festival, didn't mean 1369 01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 6: they all came right right, right. 1370 01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,160 Speaker 5: So the I mean these numbers, it was an astronomical. 1371 01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:25,240 Speaker 6: They're astronomical, but you know it's just like it's spread 1372 01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:28,360 Speaker 6: out right right because I don't own the hotels exactly, 1373 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 6: I don't own the flights. I don't own it. So yes, 1374 01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,360 Speaker 6: people are spending this, So we know we're creating this economics, 1375 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,760 Speaker 6: and how do we now become a part of the ecosystem. 1376 01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 6: How do we make it so by creating services and 1377 01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 6: vertical and things by also working with the hotels to 1378 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:47,440 Speaker 6: kind of strike deals where maybe I get rates that 1379 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 6: can I can give out reallyod type situations. We're looking 1380 01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,920 Speaker 6: into like charter and planes right because Delsa is going crazy. 1381 01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:58,000 Speaker 6: So if I can do charter flights where we reduce 1382 01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:00,160 Speaker 6: the costs for people and we could still make some 1383 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,480 Speaker 6: funds off of it, you know, to challenge Delta to 1384 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 6: come down because people maybe won't take that. Those are 1385 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,040 Speaker 6: options for us as well. Optimizing. One of the things 1386 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,040 Speaker 6: that I love about you guys platform is how much 1387 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:15,400 Speaker 6: you've optimized social like your YouTube and things that nature. 1388 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,440 Speaker 6: We haven't done that yet. You know, our focus, like 1389 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,240 Speaker 6: if you want to see what we do, you have 1390 01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,640 Speaker 6: to be there, and I think that's part of it. 1391 01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 6: But we know that we can generate more by like 1392 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 6: doing more social selling content. We actually have a film 1393 01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 6: coming out with Meta that was a three D film 1394 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 6: shot of the performances and the experience in Ghana. So 1395 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:34,960 Speaker 6: those are things that we want to do more of. 1396 01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,200 Speaker 7: Move One of the things that you left the last 1397 01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,760 Speaker 7: impact is you said the jobs, and so you create 1398 01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,360 Speaker 7: over five thousand jobs, so that helps the economy too. 1399 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 7: So absolutely, what type of jobs are you creating and 1400 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:49,440 Speaker 7: are those jobs sustainable after we leave December? Like, are 1401 01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,920 Speaker 7: these people staying with these jobs throughout the years of 1402 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:52,680 Speaker 7: twelve months of a year. 1403 01:04:52,880 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 6: No, a portion of them are. So most of these 1404 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:58,480 Speaker 6: are production jobs. You know, people who are building, they 1405 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:02,160 Speaker 6: probably work for three months three months, so seasonal jobs. 1406 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,120 Speaker 6: We are trying to get it where we can build 1407 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:09,880 Speaker 6: a system of like a temp agency if you may, right. 1408 01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 6: So right now, when I come and I'm looking for 1409 01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 6: somebody to build, the space is very limited amount of people. 1410 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 6: So creating a temp agency where now we can actually 1411 01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 6: outsource the services and provide services to people is the 1412 01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 6: next level for us. Because we've been paying out so much, 1413 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,400 Speaker 6: we need to reeld some of that in. So by 1414 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,640 Speaker 6: owning the equipment now we can you know, actually train 1415 01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:33,280 Speaker 6: our individuals, get trainers so that now we can also 1416 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,240 Speaker 6: not provide service, but not only in Ghana but like 1417 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,320 Speaker 6: across West Africa and possibly other bides. 1418 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, when you own the equipment, now you can create 1419 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 7: more content. I was watching Snowfall. They had an episode 1420 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,480 Speaker 7: where he went to Ghana, yeah, and I was just like, look, 1421 01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,040 Speaker 7: how beautiful they've captured this. So now, like you can 1422 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,360 Speaker 7: literally create a production studio based on the equipment you 1423 01:05:51,400 --> 01:05:52,000 Speaker 7: know exactly. 1424 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:53,800 Speaker 6: A lot of people are doing that right now, so 1425 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 6: I know you just Elbow is looking to open up 1426 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 6: a production studios. Tyler Perry has talked about it a 1427 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,440 Speaker 6: few others. But yeah, we we've been doing it and 1428 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,320 Speaker 6: we're going to continue to do it, and we want 1429 01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:05,200 Speaker 6: to do it. I think there's so much stories to tell, 1430 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:07,160 Speaker 6: so I think there's even more space for more people 1431 01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 6: to come in. I think the best way to do 1432 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:10,920 Speaker 6: is to come in and collaborate with people on the ground, 1433 01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,800 Speaker 6: like you're just doing and some of the others are 1434 01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,280 Speaker 6: doing as well, just kind of working with people on 1435 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 6: the ground to build out opportunities. And that's some of 1436 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:18,080 Speaker 6: the work we're doing. 1437 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:21,760 Speaker 4: So talk about like you know, attracting corporate sponsors, the 1438 01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 4: process of doing that, put together a deck, what should 1439 01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 4: be in a deck, and all of that type of 1440 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,080 Speaker 4: corporate reach. Like do you do it yourself? You have 1441 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 4: an agency that doesn't for you. 1442 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,040 Speaker 6: No, I do it myself. I've built most of all 1443 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 6: of our decks by myself. Every single piece of writing 1444 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 6: you see you on a website or on our decks, 1445 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 6: I wrote it with my bare hands, right, So my 1446 01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,680 Speaker 6: thing is like, you want the deck to look like 1447 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 6: something that anybody can look at it and understand your brand, 1448 01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 6: like if they have any questions, it should be about process, 1449 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,960 Speaker 6: not necessarily what is right? How do we make this happen? 1450 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 6: Not necessarily what is and it should speak to you. 1451 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 6: It's like your resume. You may are what you've done, 1452 01:07:01,960 --> 01:07:04,280 Speaker 6: the numbers, what the numbers are saying? Why does it 1453 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 6: benefit them? What can they do when they come there? 1454 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:11,000 Speaker 6: How do they see themselves in your activation? So we've 1455 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,840 Speaker 6: grown from just a festival. Over two days at the festival, 1456 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 6: there's so many different opportunities. You can have a photo moment, 1457 01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:22,360 Speaker 6: you can have a activation where people can interact. So 1458 01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:25,400 Speaker 6: we've done activations with for instance, YouTube where we built 1459 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:30,920 Speaker 6: a shorts program. YouTube was launching a short form program 1460 01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,400 Speaker 6: which is like you know, the TikTok the reels, and 1461 01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,520 Speaker 6: they were launching in Ghana. So we work with them 1462 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:39,120 Speaker 6: to build a forty by forty playground where people can 1463 01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 6: go in there and create content. At the time, Ghana 1464 01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 6: was not a priority market for YouTube, but through a activation, 1465 01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 6: YouTube reassessed and realize Ghana is a priority market that 1466 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 6: day alone, we were able to create one thousand plus 1467 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 6: reels i mean well shorts for YouTube in Ghana, so 1468 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,040 Speaker 6: that's one type of activation you can have. We also 1469 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,280 Speaker 6: worked with YouTube Uber last year there was a young 1470 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:03,880 Speaker 6: man who use scrap metal to create a car, like 1471 01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,959 Speaker 6: an actual car that you can drive on a road. 1472 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,520 Speaker 6: So Uber wanted to highlight that and use that as 1473 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:10,720 Speaker 6: an activation on the ground to be able to give 1474 01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:16,040 Speaker 6: people discount of tickets. So that's a display activation. Or 1475 01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,960 Speaker 6: we can do more immersive activations like we did with 1476 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:23,480 Speaker 6: Twitter where people could scan their barcodes on their wristband 1477 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,439 Speaker 6: and that could send a tweet or do things like 1478 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 6: that to kind of engage with the community. Or last 1479 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 6: year we work with YouTube began to create National Joe 1480 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,360 Speaker 6: Off Day, right, So there are different several and that 1481 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,960 Speaker 6: was a digital activation. So we do a combination of 1482 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,839 Speaker 6: digital activation, in person activations, panel discussions, and we've expanded 1483 01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,880 Speaker 6: our portfolio to be able to do all of these 1484 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 6: things outside of the festival. We also have the Average Expo, 1485 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 6: which is an opportunity for us to kind of have 1486 01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,960 Speaker 6: discussions about real life as in you are interested in 1487 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,680 Speaker 6: agriculture and Ghana, all right, cool? These are experts that 1488 01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,280 Speaker 6: understand it. Let's engage them. You're intersted in the food industry, 1489 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,960 Speaker 6: Let's engage them your industry and finances. Let's talk to them. 1490 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,479 Speaker 6: They're industed in the music business. Let's have a panel 1491 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,800 Speaker 6: discussions with that. And we've done that with tone Core, 1492 01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:16,599 Speaker 6: with YouTube corut Global, We've done collaborations with Topicals, which 1493 01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:19,639 Speaker 6: is a new brand that she raised ten million dollars 1494 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,040 Speaker 6: last year she was in Ghana. We did it with 1495 01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 6: Modern I think it's Modern Girls. You know, they created 1496 01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 6: a you know, uh, she's a young girl who started 1497 01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:34,800 Speaker 6: teaching about finances in the pandemic. Tiffany Jay does great 1498 01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:37,360 Speaker 6: work as well, So we've invited some of these people. 1499 01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 6: A lot of our work is also built on collaboration. 1500 01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,479 Speaker 6: So bringing an R and B house party to Ghana 1501 01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:44,800 Speaker 6: and having them do a party with Polo Beach is 1502 01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:48,000 Speaker 6: something that was really good at building community as well. 1503 01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 6: So now these are all exciting opportunities for partners. Right, 1504 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 6: So if a partner has partner with R and B 1505 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,920 Speaker 6: house party, for instance, in America, and I told him, look, 1506 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 6: you know, they're gonna come to Ghana and we're gonna 1507 01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,920 Speaker 6: do activation, do activation at the festival and have the 1508 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,519 Speaker 6: after part of the R and B house party. It 1509 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 6: makes sense for them, right because it's something that's familiar. 1510 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 6: They can do it out here, they can do it 1511 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,320 Speaker 6: out there. So creating those multiple touch points are some 1512 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,880 Speaker 6: of the key things for a partner because then they 1513 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 6: get to stretch their dollar, which makes them look good 1514 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,759 Speaker 6: to their company as well. But also we always deliver 1515 01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:24,920 Speaker 6: on the activation. So fenty came into Tadhana, they did 1516 01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:27,800 Speaker 6: the activation. They sold way more than they spent on 1517 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,280 Speaker 6: the activation. That's at their positive for them. 1518 01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,479 Speaker 4: To what's their activation look like. 1519 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,200 Speaker 6: So Fency we built a twenty x twenty space for 1520 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 6: them which was like a beauty bar that people can 1521 01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 6: go get their makeup done, consult with makeup artists, and 1522 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 6: they use that as an opportunity to kind of also 1523 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,439 Speaker 6: do makeup for some of the artists as well. So 1524 01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,759 Speaker 6: now they're getting touch points backstage where talent is getting 1525 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:54,080 Speaker 6: done with makeup. They're can associate their brand with the talent. 1526 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,679 Speaker 6: They're also getting content from the from the individuals who 1527 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:01,320 Speaker 6: are going into their space and taking pictures and posting 1528 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,639 Speaker 6: it by fenty Beauty at aver Eachella, and also they're 1529 01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:07,680 Speaker 6: getting to sell products, so they've made money all the 1530 01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,000 Speaker 6: way around for them to kind for it to make 1531 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,000 Speaker 6: sense for fenty beauty. So I know a brand like 1532 01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:15,880 Speaker 6: that is going to come back, right. All the brands 1533 01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 6: that we've worked with have always come back. Meta came back. 1534 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 6: Twitter has come back up until Elon took over. You know, 1535 01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:26,960 Speaker 6: Instagram has come back. You know, we anticipate fan come 1536 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,439 Speaker 6: back and we anticipate more beauty brands, and our goal 1537 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 6: is to be able to just kind of keep opening up, 1538 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,360 Speaker 6: for it to just be not just the festival as 1539 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:37,760 Speaker 6: the focal point, but there's so many pieces around it 1540 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,040 Speaker 6: that make it a real mecca for the diaspora when 1541 01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:42,719 Speaker 6: they come back to Ghana. So if you want to party, 1542 01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,439 Speaker 6: you have that opportunity. If you want to educate yourself, 1543 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,519 Speaker 6: you have the opportunity. If you want to relax, you 1544 01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:49,760 Speaker 6: have the opportunity. One of the things that I'm really 1545 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:53,000 Speaker 6: excited about is there was a young man's name was 1546 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,920 Speaker 6: Russian and he started a company called Poetry Me and 1547 01:11:55,960 --> 01:11:57,760 Speaker 6: he reached out to me last year through one of 1548 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:01,320 Speaker 6: my boys, Neville, and Know I was like, Ah, let's 1549 01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,280 Speaker 6: do a poetry event would be really cool. It's something 1550 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,680 Speaker 6: different across you know, everybody clubs, let's do something that 1551 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:10,400 Speaker 6: people would just and it was amazing. Jiv performed like 1552 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 6: you know, so for that to be the experience and 1553 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,599 Speaker 6: for it to sell out in that way his first 1554 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,120 Speaker 6: event and gone, I thought that was beautiful. We also 1555 01:12:17,120 --> 01:12:19,720 Speaker 6: did event with Black Health Connects, So what they did 1556 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,480 Speaker 6: was they set up a mixer for black health professionals 1557 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,160 Speaker 6: across the diaspora, and I thought that was beautiful as well. 1558 01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:30,680 Speaker 6: So we're looking to do more things like that, meetups, conversations, 1559 01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 6: panel discussions, idea exchanges. The hope is for there to 1560 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 6: be maybe a couple of investment groups that come out 1561 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:40,599 Speaker 6: of this so that they can go and help us 1562 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 6: build you know, whether we're building schools, whether we building communities. 1563 01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 6: I think those are all great opportunities for people back 1564 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:47,800 Speaker 6: here as well. 1565 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:51,960 Speaker 7: Are you seeing that as a by product of the event, 1566 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 7: Like we have corporate coming in for the event, but 1567 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:57,479 Speaker 7: do you see the diaspora investing back in across Yes. 1568 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,479 Speaker 6: As a result, Yes, I've seen people who have gotten 1569 01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:03,040 Speaker 6: their citizenship, their residency who actually working from there, who 1570 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:07,639 Speaker 6: have started businesses. You know, whether it's important shade butter 1571 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 6: or selling baskets or you know, buying property and being 1572 01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,880 Speaker 6: be in it. People are doing a whole bunch of things, 1573 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,200 Speaker 6: you know, whether they're starting clubs, open up a restaurant. 1574 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 6: I've seen a lot of that happen in the past 1575 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,479 Speaker 6: couple of years, and frankly, it makes me very happy. 1576 01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:24,599 Speaker 6: One of the first things people do is probably set 1577 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:26,360 Speaker 6: up a tour group because you know, if I come 1578 01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 6: when you're now comping twenty people, and you know, it's 1579 01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 6: a business, and I think it's a really good one. 1580 01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 6: But there's so many other things that people can do. 1581 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 6: I haven't seen anybody adventure into agriculture, which I think 1582 01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:40,960 Speaker 6: is like one of the biggest things that needs to 1583 01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,760 Speaker 6: be done. And it's and it's evident because almost all 1584 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,720 Speaker 6: the candidates that are running for a president now talking 1585 01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,759 Speaker 6: about agriculture. You know, we have one of the biggest 1586 01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,400 Speaker 6: pineapple forms in Ghana, and I know, you know, we 1587 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 6: know the owner. They ship to all of Europe. Like 1588 01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,160 Speaker 6: you know, I didn't know that Europeans were eating ghani 1589 01:13:56,240 --> 01:14:00,080 Speaker 6: and bananas. I didn't know that, but they are. You know, 1590 01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:03,639 Speaker 6: Ghana mixed the second exports the second amount of cocoa, 1591 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 6: you know, and recently you know, the president is like, 1592 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 6: you know, we're going to try and refine our own 1593 01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:11,040 Speaker 6: coco right here in Ghana. So, you know, there's so 1594 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:14,839 Speaker 6: many different things that are just underutilized. Like for instance, 1595 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,960 Speaker 6: my partner inputs chicken and fish, Like you know, I 1596 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,040 Speaker 6: was like, you know, why don't we have a chicken 1597 01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,600 Speaker 6: farm right here to be able to produce chicken to 1598 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 6: feed people in Ghana. So I think those are things 1599 01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 6: that just there's so many different opportunities that exist not 1600 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:32,960 Speaker 6: only in Ghana but across the continent that I think 1601 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,040 Speaker 6: that as we continue to get to know each other, 1602 01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,519 Speaker 6: the more that they asked for in the continent, that 1603 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:39,840 Speaker 6: you know that collaboration is going to be key and 1604 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,639 Speaker 6: and and growing africas Africa's Africa is the youngest continent 1605 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,559 Speaker 6: and will be for the foreseeable future. So all of 1606 01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,360 Speaker 6: the opportunities going there right all of the governments are 1607 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,679 Speaker 6: fighting over space, you know, whether there's the Chinese or Russians. 1608 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,600 Speaker 6: The Americans now are getting into the mix. You know, 1609 01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:57,840 Speaker 6: you know, black people need to get into the mix. 1610 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:01,040 Speaker 4: So how do you market now? You market the event. 1611 01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:03,840 Speaker 6: A lot of our marketing goes to a lot of 1612 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:07,160 Speaker 6: group group sales group. Sales is one of our biggest ones. 1613 01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,280 Speaker 6: We do a lot. It does. It does a lot 1614 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 6: of wonders for US. We run a lot of ads 1615 01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 6: on socials, across YouTube, across Facebook, across our Instagram. We 1616 01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:20,360 Speaker 6: do a lot of placements and different on different websites 1617 01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:24,120 Speaker 6: as well, billboards around the continent. We activate in different cities, 1618 01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:26,960 Speaker 6: like we have activation coming up in La with PVO. 1619 01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:30,120 Speaker 6: PVO is a partner of ours. We've been partnering for 1620 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:31,840 Speaker 6: a couple of years. They are young men that's side 1621 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 6: an organization called Positi Vibes only to celebrate you know, 1622 01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:38,519 Speaker 6: mental health awareness and they do that through their programming, 1623 01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,400 Speaker 6: so we partner with them. We're doing We're going to 1624 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,160 Speaker 6: be African with PVO, so hopefully who have you there 1625 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,639 Speaker 6: as well? You know we're doing collaborations with Africaan. That's 1626 01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:49,320 Speaker 6: another way. A lot of our activations in the US 1627 01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:54,600 Speaker 6: is one of those. We're doing Kodivoir April thirtieth, we 1628 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:58,160 Speaker 6: have France June eighteenth. We're going to be in London 1629 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:03,599 Speaker 6: in June as well. We have South Africa September, Kenya 1630 01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:06,919 Speaker 6: and November. So by activating all these spaces, it optimizes 1631 01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:08,600 Speaker 6: the amount of people they are able to come. We 1632 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:12,120 Speaker 6: also have Germany at the end of August, so that 1633 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,480 Speaker 6: allows us to be able to kind of connect with communities. 1634 01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 6: Last year was the first year I went to Germany 1635 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 6: for hype Fest, and that brought in so many Germans 1636 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:23,400 Speaker 6: into Ghana, and we want to continue doing that. By 1637 01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:26,880 Speaker 6: activating and celebrating in these spaces, we're building our audience. 1638 01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 6: I'm sure you guys are seeing the same thing. By 1639 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:31,120 Speaker 6: activating in different cities, you're seeing more people come into 1640 01:16:31,160 --> 01:16:33,880 Speaker 6: your space, and literally it's working for us. It's been 1641 01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,160 Speaker 6: working for us, and we're looking to do that, and 1642 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,200 Speaker 6: we're also looking for other traditional ways to do it, 1643 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:42,799 Speaker 6: whether it's like placements on podcasts, whether it's through medium 1644 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:46,040 Speaker 6: drops and appearances. Apparently Hulu has allowing you to do 1645 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:49,200 Speaker 6: advertisements on Hulu now for a fee, So we're looking 1646 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,760 Speaker 6: into those kind of opportunities as well to kind of 1647 01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:53,840 Speaker 6: grow the audience but also keep it organic. I think 1648 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 6: one of the beauties about our festival is you don't 1649 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,960 Speaker 6: feel lost. Although it's big and it's a stadium and 1650 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 6: it takes a lot of work walking to get around, 1651 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,080 Speaker 6: it still feels like a small community of people, and 1652 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:07,759 Speaker 6: I think that that's what people love and I don't 1653 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 6: ever want to lose that by just kind of making 1654 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,160 Speaker 6: it so big that people can't even see each other. 1655 01:17:13,720 --> 01:17:15,600 Speaker 6: The beauty is like you can turn left and you 1656 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:17,559 Speaker 6: see Charlemagne or your guitar right and you can see 1657 01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,719 Speaker 6: what was in the Saint John. Like that's the beauty 1658 01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,479 Speaker 6: of being in that space and everybody is comfortable and 1659 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,679 Speaker 6: nobody feels attacked or or bother. 1660 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,080 Speaker 5: Charlamagne was at the Nigeria or the Strip club. 1661 01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:34,680 Speaker 6: In the first one. Yeah, Silver Fox is actually pretty big, 1662 01:17:35,640 --> 01:17:36,040 Speaker 6: is dope? 1663 01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:40,240 Speaker 7: Do you see the festival expanding not only in a 1664 01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:43,720 Speaker 7: crowd but in other countries on the continent where it's 1665 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,920 Speaker 7: like people want to have a similar type situation for 1666 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:52,360 Speaker 7: their for their country. You said South Africa, you have activations, Nigeria, Morocco, 1667 01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:53,120 Speaker 7: like appreciate it. 1668 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, We've gotten a lot of invitations from different tourism 1669 01:17:55,760 --> 01:18:02,559 Speaker 6: authorities like Uganda, South Africa, Rwanda to come in senegog 1670 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,120 Speaker 6: to come in and like recreate what we've been able 1671 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:08,040 Speaker 6: to create in Ghana, but we never like what I 1672 01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 6: don't want to do is like say I'm going to 1673 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,720 Speaker 6: have a festival in South Africa the way I have 1674 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 6: it in Ghana. I don't want to do that. My 1675 01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,120 Speaker 6: whole goal is to be able to partner with somebody 1676 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,000 Speaker 6: down there and they can own it and we can 1677 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:22,600 Speaker 6: own a piece of it, because I think that in 1678 01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,799 Speaker 6: going into Africa, we have to have a different mindset 1679 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,240 Speaker 6: than we've had here, right, we have to have more 1680 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,920 Speaker 6: of a community mindset. I think that's the beauty about 1681 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:34,720 Speaker 6: living in Africa. It's about the community we all eat. 1682 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,479 Speaker 6: There's more of us by working together. So for us, 1683 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:40,799 Speaker 6: it's about community buildings. So if we go to South Africa, 1684 01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:42,519 Speaker 6: we're looking to work with a partner in South Africa. 1685 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,240 Speaker 6: We all work with a partner in South Africa. The 1686 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,479 Speaker 6: same thing in Kenya. So I don't need to own 1687 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,280 Speaker 6: it because I can't tell a Kenyan story the way 1688 01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:50,519 Speaker 6: I can tell a Ghanian story, but they can't. So 1689 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,400 Speaker 6: how do I give them the resources that I've learned 1690 01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,559 Speaker 6: in Ghana to be able to kind of help them 1691 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:56,920 Speaker 6: recreate this and then they can own it and then 1692 01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 6: we are part of it. That's the model that we've 1693 01:18:59,320 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 6: always thought for ourselves, and that's what we want to do, 1694 01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,679 Speaker 6: and that's why we're creating new services to be able 1695 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:05,080 Speaker 6: to do that. 1696 01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 7: To talk about the philanthropic of Apple Future, I know 1697 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,479 Speaker 7: you know you guys have given back money to health 1698 01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,519 Speaker 7: and border initiatives throughout the country, So talk about that other. 1699 01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1700 01:19:19,080 --> 01:19:21,880 Speaker 6: So I'm a brother five ue Siment Fraternity Incorporated, and 1701 01:19:22,360 --> 01:19:25,400 Speaker 6: part of my mantra is always to give back right 1702 01:19:25,439 --> 01:19:29,120 Speaker 6: cultural service for humanity. And I've always thought that if 1703 01:19:29,120 --> 01:19:31,000 Speaker 6: somebody's going to give back, it's not enough to just 1704 01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:33,840 Speaker 6: try and trip them into giving back money. You have 1705 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,559 Speaker 6: to give them incentivized. I've always done that through whether 1706 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:38,840 Speaker 6: it's parties, like you know, you throw a party, buy 1707 01:19:38,840 --> 01:19:41,280 Speaker 6: a ticket, I'll use I'll give them on your behalf, 1708 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,120 Speaker 6: like you've always given back. My partner and I both brothers, 1709 01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:45,840 Speaker 6: So we're like, you know what, this is what we're 1710 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,440 Speaker 6: going to do. We're going to invite people to participate 1711 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,920 Speaker 6: in some of the givebacks that we're doing, but we 1712 01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,000 Speaker 6: are also going to use ticket sales and give out 1713 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,760 Speaker 6: five percent of the ticket sales to whatever charity calls 1714 01:19:56,760 --> 01:20:00,320 Speaker 6: that we're looking to to support. The year one, we 1715 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 6: work with water Aid, which is our company that is 1716 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,559 Speaker 6: all over the world actually, but basically they reduced limits 1717 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,479 Speaker 6: lack of access to water and build toilets for people. 1718 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,840 Speaker 6: They're still people who are using non traditional toilets that 1719 01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:16,400 Speaker 6: you could flush, you know, either the lack of water 1720 01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:21,000 Speaker 6: or their toilet in a hole. So we're building that out. 1721 01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:24,120 Speaker 6: We built out so we've donated to them, but then 1722 01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:27,799 Speaker 6: we adopted the school. We worked with Twitter to remodel 1723 01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:31,639 Speaker 6: the school. We built the new ceiling, new floors, fed 1724 01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:33,479 Speaker 6: them for a year. We did that for a couple 1725 01:20:33,479 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 6: of years, and then recently we've been actually just taking 1726 01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,000 Speaker 6: that action on the road, so whether it's doing a 1727 01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:42,400 Speaker 6: thousand meals and giving it out in the community or 1728 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,719 Speaker 6: giving out school supplies. Last year we partnered with Madachi Foundation, 1729 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:51,320 Speaker 6: which is one of my good bros, actually created a 1730 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,280 Speaker 6: foundation that provides sneakers to students. He found people in 1731 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,120 Speaker 6: his community in Ghana their barrier to going to school 1732 01:20:58,160 --> 01:20:59,960 Speaker 6: was they didn't have shoes, so they had to walk 1733 01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 6: to go to school. So he wanted to be able 1734 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,439 Speaker 6: to bring sneakers back to Ghana so that he can 1735 01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:08,040 Speaker 6: provide them with shoes to wear on their way to 1736 01:21:08,040 --> 01:21:09,760 Speaker 6: school and some of that. That's some of the work 1737 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:12,160 Speaker 6: we work with him to kind of create a like 1738 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,880 Speaker 6: in Ghana when the year was over. It wasn't like 1739 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,680 Speaker 6: just a cut day. It was like we call it 1740 01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 6: our day and it was a special day because it's 1741 01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:26,280 Speaker 6: funny because the things that we care about is weird. 1742 01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 6: It was our day. But you would all bringing like 1743 01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,160 Speaker 6: your best meals and that's how you compete it out here. 1744 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 6: You know, you were your sneakers, you be your best 1745 01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:35,479 Speaker 6: fit because you had a dress down there or something 1746 01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,000 Speaker 6: like that. In Ghana, the last day was our day. 1747 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:40,559 Speaker 6: It was like you basically have a feast, like everybody 1748 01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,439 Speaker 6: brings their food and shows off. I got the best 1749 01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,120 Speaker 6: snacks something like that. So we recreated that experience for 1750 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,280 Speaker 6: kids and gave them sneakers, face painting, engaging them, playing 1751 01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 6: with them, you know, giving them, you know, breathing to them, 1752 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,960 Speaker 6: enthus that nature. And this gives our audience and attendees 1753 01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,120 Speaker 6: an opportunity to really engage with the local with the 1754 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 6: local community, see what's what's important to them. So we 1755 01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:04,600 Speaker 6: want to give people a three sixty experience. When you 1756 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 6: come to Ghana, you're going to see a high life, 1757 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,519 Speaker 6: right but depending if you're coming with American dollar or 1758 01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 6: British pound or euros, you're going to stay in the 1759 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:13,759 Speaker 6: nice places you're going to eat at, the nice places, 1760 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 6: you're going to go to, the nice parties, But we 1761 01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:18,680 Speaker 6: don't want you to lose out on understanding what the 1762 01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:22,960 Speaker 6: entire experience is like, how the people on the ground 1763 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:24,719 Speaker 6: are living, what is what is it like to borrow? 1764 01:22:24,760 --> 01:22:26,599 Speaker 6: What does it like to try the food? What does 1765 01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:29,040 Speaker 6: you know? How does poverty look? You know what I'm saying. 1766 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,120 Speaker 6: What are opportunities? You know if they're schools, things that 1767 01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 6: nature exchange program, those are things that we're looking at 1768 01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 6: trying to figure out how to how to create. But 1769 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 6: it gives other people opportunity to see to idea for 1770 01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:43,000 Speaker 6: themselves how they can give back, will support. So those 1771 01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:43,840 Speaker 6: are something things we do. 1772 01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,960 Speaker 4: So talk about changing the name. 1773 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:51,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, so you know for a long time, obviously everybody 1774 01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:55,599 Speaker 6: knows we will sue by Coachella, and that was one 1775 01:22:55,640 --> 01:22:59,000 Speaker 6: of the major driver reasons why we accelerate the change 1776 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:02,000 Speaker 6: to the name. But also we were also growing beyond 1777 01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:05,839 Speaker 6: just being Afriachella. What we anticipate we have for future 1778 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:10,160 Speaker 6: is recreating a new world for the diaspora in reality 1779 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:15,840 Speaker 6: where we connect and have our space to congregate and 1780 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:20,200 Speaker 6: be able to build together. The expo the museum and 1781 01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,519 Speaker 6: some of the experiences we're creating around the experiences what 1782 01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:25,960 Speaker 6: we consider the future. If you look at all of 1783 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,240 Speaker 6: these business conferences that are happening some at Harvard, Georgetown, MIT, Stanford, 1784 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:33,719 Speaker 6: all over the place, but they're talking about Africa outside 1785 01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:37,120 Speaker 6: of Africa US just at the conference happened in DC. 1786 01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,800 Speaker 6: Outside of Africa. Our opportunity is to be able to 1787 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:43,400 Speaker 6: bring bring that energy back to the continent. We never 1788 01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:47,000 Speaker 6: want to activate the festival self outside of the continent. 1789 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,760 Speaker 6: Our whole goal is to get more people to come 1790 01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 6: back to the continent. So we consider what we're doing 1791 01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:52,800 Speaker 6: and what we are going to be doing for the 1792 01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:56,240 Speaker 6: next couple of years, the future and after future just made. 1793 01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,519 Speaker 4: So what happened with the lawsuit? Did you settle? 1794 01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:04,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, we settled, We settled out. They had points, we 1795 01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:07,120 Speaker 6: had points, We had a mark in Ghana, they had 1796 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 6: a marque here, and we were just trying to figure 1797 01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,280 Speaker 6: out what was what was the best option for us, uh, 1798 01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 6: you know, and after a while, because you know, it 1799 01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:17,639 Speaker 6: just was more expensive than it needed to be uh, 1800 01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:19,519 Speaker 6: and it was just easier for us to just kind 1801 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:21,080 Speaker 6: of like come to an agreement to kind of like 1802 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,519 Speaker 6: leave each other alone, and and that required us to 1803 01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,599 Speaker 6: also change our name as well, and we were we 1804 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:27,840 Speaker 6: were amenable to it as well. 1805 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:33,479 Speaker 7: After future it is so how long after the event 1806 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,880 Speaker 7: is finished before you start preparing for. 1807 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:36,519 Speaker 5: The next one. 1808 01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,400 Speaker 6: Immediately as soon as the event is finished, we do 1809 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 6: a post mortem with the whole team just to kind 1810 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,759 Speaker 6: of figure out, you know, what are the opportunities for growth, 1811 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,519 Speaker 6: what went well, what do we like where we want 1812 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,280 Speaker 6: to keep I think as far as the structure of 1813 01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:53,000 Speaker 6: the event, we just got to the perfect structure that 1814 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,240 Speaker 6: we like as far as how people are going to 1815 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:57,960 Speaker 6: navigate through the space, so that takes a lot off 1816 01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,720 Speaker 6: of our plate. But each year comes to a new 1817 01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,919 Speaker 6: child that we have to face, you know. Twenty seventeen 1818 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:05,439 Speaker 6: was we just didn't have money. Twenty eighteen was just 1819 01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:08,759 Speaker 6: kind of navigating a new space. Twenty nineteen was scaling 1820 01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,519 Speaker 6: way beyond where the team was at. Twenty twenty was 1821 01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:16,280 Speaker 6: the pandemic, twenty twenty one was our first major artist 1822 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 6: like west Kid, right, and last year was two days. 1823 01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:22,400 Speaker 6: So now we've gotten to our I guess, final form 1824 01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,080 Speaker 6: of what the festival was going to look like, and 1825 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,439 Speaker 6: now it's just about making sure it kind of grows 1826 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:28,799 Speaker 6: organically as it stands. 1827 01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,040 Speaker 4: Did you announce the lineup yet for this year? 1828 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,439 Speaker 6: No, No, we're looking to do that at the end 1829 01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:36,719 Speaker 6: of April or Africa Day. Yeah, I mean yeah, Africa 1830 01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:39,680 Speaker 6: Day is when we were looking to announce that. We 1831 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,680 Speaker 6: actually never used to announce the lineup until like the 1832 01:25:42,760 --> 01:25:44,639 Speaker 6: last month because we didn't want people to just buy 1833 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,639 Speaker 6: tickets just for the artists. We wanted people to buy 1834 01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,759 Speaker 6: tickets for the experience. But recently we've been like announcing 1835 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,800 Speaker 6: all of it together to kind of, you know, give 1836 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 6: people ample time to be able to prepare to buy 1837 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,160 Speaker 6: the tickets because the ticket prices are too high, too 1838 01:25:57,240 --> 01:25:58,080 Speaker 6: high for no reason. 1839 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:03,240 Speaker 4: Well, been a pleasure, definitely got to connect when we 1840 01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,040 Speaker 4: come out there. 1841 01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:05,559 Speaker 6: For sure, for sure, we're going to make sure you 1842 01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:07,320 Speaker 6: have a good time. We're gonna take out as a fox. 1843 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,120 Speaker 6: We're gonna take that to a fox. We're gonna take 1844 01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,240 Speaker 6: out a twist and make sure you're good out there. 1845 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,519 Speaker 6: I mean, the one thing that I could, you know, 1846 01:26:15,160 --> 01:26:17,400 Speaker 6: I used to never promise about. I could promise you 1847 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 6: a good time in Ghana if you are open to 1848 01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:23,400 Speaker 6: really just kind of experiencing new things, trying new things, 1849 01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:26,320 Speaker 6: meeting people and just kind of talking to people. You 1850 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 6: have an amazing experience, like you know, nobody is really 1851 01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:33,040 Speaker 6: there to bother you, to haggle you, to hassle you. Yeah, 1852 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:34,640 Speaker 6: people are going to ask you for some money. You know, 1853 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,160 Speaker 6: you look like you have money. People are definitely going 1854 01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,720 Speaker 6: to ask you for some money. But I think you 1855 01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,960 Speaker 6: can experience that anywhere around the world. But I think 1856 01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,599 Speaker 6: the beauty about the people in Ghana and what drives 1857 01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,840 Speaker 6: me is that everybody seems happy, right. They don't have 1858 01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:48,120 Speaker 6: to have much to be happy. And that kind of 1859 01:26:48,240 --> 01:26:50,600 Speaker 6: drew me to the content. It kind of made me 1860 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,120 Speaker 6: understand like I was making good money here. I had 1861 01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 6: a good job. You know, I had an apartment, I 1862 01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,439 Speaker 6: had everything I wanted. But you know, sometimes you could 1863 01:26:57,439 --> 01:26:59,240 Speaker 6: just come home, get off the train and be frustrated. 1864 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,720 Speaker 6: But there they didn't have much, and I would go 1865 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,360 Speaker 6: there and they were just so happy in some cases, 1866 01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:06,160 Speaker 6: and I thought that that there's a beauty in that. 1867 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,799 Speaker 6: There's a beauty and just kind of like people being happy. 1868 01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,160 Speaker 6: And I think it has a lot to do with 1869 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 6: the experience of just kind of seeing everyone around you 1870 01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,759 Speaker 6: and enjoying them and everything that go into the beauty 1871 01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:21,040 Speaker 6: and the struggle, I guess for some people. But also 1872 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,000 Speaker 6: on the flip side, there are people that are doing 1873 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:25,879 Speaker 6: pretty well, like they don't ever have to come to America, 1874 01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 6: like they can get on a plane, come here, buy 1875 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,160 Speaker 6: clothes and go right back the next day, like you know, 1876 01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:34,840 Speaker 6: you know, and you know the disparity. There's beauty in it, 1877 01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,960 Speaker 6: but there's also struggle in it. And I think that 1878 01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,920 Speaker 6: as more black people come into the space, it's going 1879 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,120 Speaker 6: to change. It's changed so much over the past seven years, 1880 01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 6: so I look forward to seeing how much it's going 1881 01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:47,400 Speaker 6: to change in the next ten because it's definitely changing 1882 01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,599 Speaker 6: for the positive. People are questioning things, people are pushing 1883 01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:53,759 Speaker 6: government to do things, people are creating content, people are connecting. 1884 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:57,040 Speaker 6: So it's beautiful. So I'm looking forward to hosting you, Ghana. 1885 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,240 Speaker 7: I'm it, I know, the good Will ambassador of tourism. 1886 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 7: So I'm looking forward to being Russ. You're gonna be fine, 1887 01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,160 Speaker 7: and Ghana. Ain't got worried about nothing. 1888 01:28:08,200 --> 01:28:10,920 Speaker 6: Anything you need like you know, pretty much a phone 1889 01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:14,360 Speaker 6: call away or a discussion like you know, from visas 1890 01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,040 Speaker 6: to whatever you need, cars, anything you need. 1891 01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,559 Speaker 5: I'm excited. I'm excited for sure, thank you. 1892 01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:23,760 Speaker 4: All right, gosh, there you have it all right. 1893 01:28:23,760 --> 01:28:26,920 Speaker 5: We just got to say this right, best Jolla Rice 1894 01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:28,800 Speaker 5: is in Nigeria? Is it Ghana? Man? 1895 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:31,240 Speaker 6: That's Ghana all day easily. Yeah, come to a crowd 1896 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,320 Speaker 6: restaurant right here in New York. We got we got, 1897 01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 6: we got the best your Off Rice. We wanted twice twice. 1898 01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,920 Speaker 6: Actually got to invite y'all. We have a favor a 1899 01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:43,600 Speaker 6: crowd restaurant. Both of them. We are Burnside Avenue and 1900 01:28:43,680 --> 01:28:48,439 Speaker 6: Davidson and then we have on twenty sixty five Adam 1901 01:28:48,479 --> 01:28:53,000 Speaker 6: playing Power Boulevard. Both both the restaurant that's one seventh 1902 01:28:53,680 --> 01:28:58,040 Speaker 6: seventh the street Adam Clay and Power between. 1903 01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:03,719 Speaker 7: That's crazy. The Thanksgiving, I promise you. That's two years ago. 1904 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,360 Speaker 5: I was like, we're not cooking this yet, and that's 1905 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,799 Speaker 5: what we went. Oh that's amazing. 1906 01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:09,120 Speaker 6: I'm glad. I don't be like that too. 1907 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:09,720 Speaker 5: You know. 1908 01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 6: We actually we do this this thing called Battle Joel 1909 01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,519 Speaker 6: Off right here in New York City. So it's like 1910 01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:18,040 Speaker 6: a basketball game and a competition with je Off Rice 1911 01:29:18,160 --> 01:29:20,799 Speaker 6: and you know, Accry the restaurant on both of them. 1912 01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,960 Speaker 6: So I definitely hope you'll pull up and I definitely 1913 01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:24,200 Speaker 6: want to invite you to the event too. 1914 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,400 Speaker 4: It's gonna be good. Yeah, definitely, definitely gotta come to 1915 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:30,400 Speaker 4: the restaurant. And what's the website, the social media and 1916 01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:30,720 Speaker 4: all that. 1917 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,879 Speaker 6: Absolutely so you can find us online at afro Future, 1918 01:29:34,720 --> 01:29:38,000 Speaker 6: on Twitter, on Instagram, on TikTok LinkedIn any of those 1919 01:29:38,040 --> 01:29:41,920 Speaker 6: were there. Afrofuture dot com was also our website, so 1920 01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:43,880 Speaker 6: looking forward to hosting Yadia as well. 1921 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,639 Speaker 5: Yeah, I appreciate it, man, that's dope you have any 1922 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,320 Speaker 5: I'm already been patriot. 1923 01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,439 Speaker 6: With Yeah, I'm glad that you enjoyed. 1924 01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:51,840 Speaker 5: Love is love, y'all. 1925 01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:53,519 Speaker 6: Thank you. 1926 01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:59,879 Speaker 4: My graduates from my school being forced bad drop. 1927 01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:17,360 Speaker 1: Drop an illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a 1928 01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:20,960 Speaker 1: child in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al 1929 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:25,840 Speaker 1: Salvador accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged 1930 01:30:25,880 --> 01:30:29,800 Speaker 1: with filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are 1931 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:33,360 Speaker 1: just some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of 1932 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 1: President Donald J. 1933 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,719 Speaker 2: Trump's leadership. I'm Christy Noman. 1934 01:30:36,640 --> 01:30:40,559 Speaker 1: The United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, 1935 01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:44,519 Speaker 1: Attempted illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever 1936 01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:48,479 Speaker 1: recorded and over one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. 1937 01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:52,320 Speaker 1: If you are here illegally, your next you will be 1938 01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:56,240 Speaker 1: fine nearly one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned, and deported. 1939 01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:57,879 Speaker 2: You will never return. 1940 01:30:58,200 --> 01:31:01,240 Speaker 1: But if you register using our CBP home app and 1941 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 1: leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. 1942 01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:06,839 Speaker 2: Do what's right. Leave now. 1943 01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,919 Speaker 1: Under President Trump America's laws, border and families will be protected. 1944 01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:14,160 Speaker 3: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security,