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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season one sixty, Episode

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Speaker 1: five of Daily Guys, the production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: This is the podcast where we take a deep dive

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Speaker 1: into American share kind of just it's Friday, November twenty

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Speaker 1: uh sixty one days until January two thousand one. So

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Speaker 1: many twenties. Wait, let's form a conspiracy theory, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like we're gonna do ah, just like Jim Carrey's

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Speaker 1: the number twenty three the dailies like guys the number

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Speaker 1: twenties something anything. My name is Jack O'Brien a K.

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Speaker 1: I always feel like drinking a Baja freeze. That is

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Speaker 1: courtesy of Picks Last and zych class uh or at

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Speaker 1: go to Joe three oh three three oh. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how they got that damp, but they did it.

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Speaker 1: Uh And I'm thrilled to be joined by my co

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Speaker 1: host Jamie Laws. I got the tax buttons, I got

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Speaker 1: some hot text Jamie and I I maybe lose it

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Speaker 1: by my take demon got I have some hot take

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Speaker 1: with mout Jason Jeko Brat run there those pretty Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My animals just died. They died because they did that.

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Speaker 1: I really like. I'm always impressed by your singing. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Miles is off decompressing uh in the Southern hemisphere. Yah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna take a couple of days to decompress

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Speaker 1: from the election that we just ran for Joe Biden. Um,

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Speaker 1: and we are thrilled to be joined in our third

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Speaker 1: seat by the hilarious and talented Allison Roses. Hello, I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited to be here. Congratulations on the campaign you

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Speaker 1: ran for Biden. I was unaware that I was going

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Speaker 1: to be forced to sing, so I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: this almost sounded do you know that sn L sketch

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Speaker 1: where Kristen wigg is like oh to Mike mssing and

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Speaker 1: then keep Yeah, it seemed like I was going to

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Speaker 1: head into that like, I don't know. We can tell

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Speaker 1: you I have a piano here. It's just coincidence. Alison.

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Speaker 1: What have you been up to since we last spoke

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Speaker 1: with you? Oh? God, just preparing for this day and

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Speaker 1: it's finally here. It's been like an advent calendar where

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Speaker 1: each day I just read the news and I hope

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Speaker 1: that I'll get a chance to talk about it. Um. No,

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Speaker 1: what have I been doing? Well, I've been fretting a

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Speaker 1: bit about COVID, fretting about the country, fretting about out, uh,

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Speaker 1: the election those first couple of days, even though everyone

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Speaker 1: had said, you know, we're not going to have the

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Speaker 1: results right away, there's going to be a red mirage,

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Speaker 1: when it happened those first couple of days, I still

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Speaker 1: felt very worried and very concerned and like, oh my god,

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Speaker 1: I just didn't realize this many people still supported him.

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Speaker 1: And then ultimately when it kind of shook out, I

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Speaker 1: I felt better about that. And then also just doing

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Speaker 1: my show shows, your shows, yes, and raising my children

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Speaker 1: that a distant third. But what else besides that? Besides

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Speaker 1: all these things, I have Elliott who is three and

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Speaker 1: in similar ballparks, uh, four and two over here son

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Speaker 1: good Sarah Tonin to just have in your house. That's yeah,

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Speaker 1: What I've been The main thing I've been doing is

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Speaker 1: I've been watching the Vow and Seduced and then listening

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Speaker 1: to that podcast Escaping Nexium. I am not usually a

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Speaker 1: true crime person. This is not really something you'd think

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Speaker 1: Have you guys watched this? Yeah? Are you aware of it?

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Speaker 1: I've Yeah, I feel like it. It is like even more,

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Speaker 1: I'm very easily pulled into a doom spiral media, but

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Speaker 1: just finished Seduced and I watched the Vow. The Vow

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Speaker 1: other people's thoughts on the documentary that I haven't seen,

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Speaker 1: so right the second hand, you're up to speed. So

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Speaker 1: the Vow is I think nine episodes and it follows

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Speaker 1: the Vow they are portrayed or they portrayed themselves as victims.

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Speaker 1: But there's this question of like, were you really victims?

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Speaker 1: You were integral, you were top earners in the company

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Speaker 1: I just yeah. And also just on a personal viewing experience,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, the vow could have been three hours, That's

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Speaker 1: Even the late There was a when they went down

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Speaker 1: so long ago, and I'm like, what does this have

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Speaker 1: the Valve. Though we we have nine episodes so far,

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Speaker 1: we should make that point that they have renewed it

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Speaker 1: hoping that'll that will be incentive. It's funny. At the beginning,

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Speaker 1: have more energy and more time to focus on this stuff. Same.

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Speaker 1: You know how they say, if you want to get

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Speaker 1: something done, ask a busy person, Right, Yeah, that's actually true. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm glad they say that. That makes me feel better.

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Speaker 1: Thank um. All right, we're gonna get to know you

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Speaker 1: a little bit better in a moment. Alis and first

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Speaker 1: let's tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about, Um,

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Speaker 1: just the latest in the you know what, what's happening

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Speaker 1: in Trump's Twitter thread about the election, Rudy Giuliani tip

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Speaker 1: of the spear, very dull tip of the spear for

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Speaker 1: for that whole thing. We're gonna talk about the war

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Speaker 1: two different blue T shirts, and then it's this hoodie.

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Speaker 1: I think that I was wearing this last time I

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Speaker 1: saw you. Um and and I did recently purchase cloth

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Speaker 1: clothes to change it up for my zooms. So at

428
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Speaker 1: least the public facing me, there's a little bit of variety,

429
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Speaker 1: But other wise I'm basically wearing the same thing um

430
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,640
Speaker 1: the other. It's got to the point where I'll say

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Speaker 1: to Elliott, my older son, I'll say I need to

432
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 1: go change clothes. He goes, oh, you need to put

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Speaker 1: your blue shirt on. Explained to him that there's two

434
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Speaker 1: different blue shirts that looks one is crew neck, ones

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00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: V neck. But m yeah, I just feel like, uh,

436
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: so be it. It's just easy. I have a uniform.

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00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: At this point, yeah, are you guys changing it up? No?

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00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 1: I feel like and at this point, yeah, I I have.

439
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: It's so weird because I feel like I or I've

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00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 1: organized my clothes five trillion times since quarantine started. This

441
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: is a nervous habit. But then I don't wear any

442
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: of them there. I just wear the same three shirts

443
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: and then pants, especially like shirts, I get self conscious

444
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: about where I'm like, okay, I can't have the same

445
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: shirt on on zoom. You know, five days at a

446
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: row pants, that's a free for all. You could do none,

447
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,679
Speaker 1: you could do one. And I was like looking, I

448
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I forgot how that I have more

449
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: than one pair of pants. I don't want to know

450
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: what's going on in their lives, right, but they exist.

451
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: Forgot yeah, one pants I think is the over under

452
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: for me for for a given week. What is something

453
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: you think is underrated? This might not be underrated for

454
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,479
Speaker 1: most people, but in my life it was underrated having

455
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 1: the proper storage system. I am a messy person. I

456
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: come from a line of messy people. As my dad

457
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: said about my mom, she's the messiest person I've ever

458
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 1: met um and she's it's not that she's slothful, she

459
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: just doesn't know how to organize and doesn't know how

460
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: to like purge and so I and I know, I

461
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: sound like an adult blaming my mom or something. Maybe

462
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: it was not her job to to pass this along

463
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 1: to me, but somehow I just like never accrued the

464
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: knowledge and then know how to be an organized person

465
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: who doesn't have just clutter on like every horizontal surface.

466
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: It's just a thing that I I don't know, Like

467
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: my husband is not. He's also messy, but it's not

468
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 1: as bad as me. I just don't know how to

469
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 1: do it. But anyway, there was this article I read

470
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 1: on the cut and it was like, here's how I

471
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 1: organized my small bathroom. And I actually have a pretty

472
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Speaker 1: good sized bathroom. But I bought some of the under

473
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: cabinet storage drawers that she recommended, and I put them

474
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Speaker 1: in the under the sink area, and all of a sudden,

475
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: everything that was just a big pile of crap before

476
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: is like neatly organized, and when I open it, I

477
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: just feel this sense of calm wash over me, and

478
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, this is how people do it.

479
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: My problem, in addition to hoarding too much crap, my

480
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: problem is that I've just never I don't have the

481
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: right shelves and drawers, Like, the right kind of storage

482
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 1: system can make your space again, I'm saying to me,

483
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: everyone knows the right kind of sources one can make

484
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: your space not feel totally out of control, and I've

485
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: just never done that before. One counterpoint to that is, uh, my,

486
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: my wife and I are both very messy people who

487
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 1: are very like a d D. And we have found

488
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: that we have a problem with clutter from organizational products

489
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: like we have we have container storeship like everywhere. We

490
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: have probably thirty books about like living with a d

491
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: D without like medication, Like, yeah, it can be a

492
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: problem if you don't stick to it. So it is good.

493
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: It's good that like really making a plan and sticking

494
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: to it. As opposed to just having drawers upon drawers

495
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: and like keeping the ones when they break because he

496
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: bought like some cheap plastic shelving. Isn't that the most

497
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: beautiful like poetry in the world When you're just like

498
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 1: laying in a pile of depression, Books like that are

499
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: just like spine uncracked and you're like any any day now. Yes,

500
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: I have a book called Clutter's Last Stand that I've

501
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: never opened. It is Clutter. That's a custard reference rules.

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00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: Who is the audience? Just me for the check? It's

503
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: just me. Someday I am going to have to go

504
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: out and buy that book now, unfortunately for my household.

505
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's take a quick break and we'll

506
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,719
Speaker 1: come back and talk about what's happening in the news.

507
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: And we're back and the Trump, I don't know, like

508
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: talk the Trump Trump. I mean, if you still follow

509
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: him on Twitter? Do you guys still follow him on Twitter?

510
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: I never did. He was tweeted into my timeline often

511
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: and then I would or I would see people talking

512
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: about something, so I would then go to his page

513
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: just to see what was going on. But I never

514
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: actually followed him. Yeah, I was kind of similar where

515
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, if if I end up needing to

516
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 1: see one of these, it'll probably show up in my feet. Anyways,

517
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: as a quote tweet from someone so and so far,

518
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't think I've missed a damn tweet. That's the thing,

519
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: is like, you don't even really need to follow him

520
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: to see every single thing that he tweets at some point,

521
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: whether you like it or not, it's beautiful. Yeah, that's

522
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: a good point, and it is beautiful. You are right about.

523
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: I feel like Twitter makes certain assumptions about based on

524
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: the fact that I still follow him, and therefore it's

525
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: like a lower bar for his tweets to make it

526
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: into whatever they're like algorithmically selected feat is that they

527
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: that they give me. But I'm still seeing a lot

528
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: of him just being like, we won. We're gonna win

529
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: this one. We're gonna win that one. We did it, folks. Yeah. So,

530
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: one thing that actually made it into the news and

531
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 1: not just was like his load of tweets, was that

532
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: he actually reached out to the Michigan Election Board people

533
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: who had certified the vote after saying they weren't going

534
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: to certify it because they were racist, and then they

535
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 1: attempted to rescind their certification, which seems like it should

536
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: be illegal for the president of the actual United States

537
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: too call like these low level like election workers and

538
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 1: like pressure them to cheat for him in the election.

539
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: Blamed or someone claimed that he just called one of

540
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: them because he wanted to check on her safety after

541
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: she had received threats and like either was doxed or

542
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: received threats of doxing. But um, I don't think so

543
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: that doesn't seem like something he would do. It's so

544
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: it's like I feel like that we talk about stuff

545
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: like this all the time, but it's like, I guess

546
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: that that is just I feel like sometimes when the

547
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: Trump administration does stuff like this, you're like, oh, I

548
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 1: guess that that is a law that is worth writing down,

549
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: Not like I guess we do have to write that

550
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: one down. And in general, like doxing, there should be

551
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: like better laws in regards to doxing people, because I

552
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: feel like that I don't know so much of that

553
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 1: kind of area of the law, which I am a

554
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: genius in because I'm a lawyer. Uh uh, seems like

555
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: it doesn't really I don't know. It's it's because old

556
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: people write laws and old people don't know how computers work.

557
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Uh yeah, this shouldn't be legal to do.

558
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: It's like intimidation. Yes. And did they say why on

559
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 1: like on what grounds they were rescinding their vote? Yeah?

560
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: I mean their whole thing all along has been like

561
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: the elections and like these votes are like complicated enough

562
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: things that if you just like point to one like

563
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: part of the process that these that the Republicans have

564
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: put in place to make it so that you can

565
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: make it extremely hard for people to vote, you can

566
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: just be like, oh, those signatures don't match up. So

567
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 1: that's what they're claiming. They're like, the signatures don't match right.

568
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 1: But I mean when they voted, so they said that

569
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: they're gonna not if I if I get it, this

570
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 1: is what this is. I think the timeline they said

571
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: they're gonna they aren't going to certify, and everyone was

572
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: like what And then they unanimously certified, and then they

573
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: tried to rescind the certification after Trump called them, right,

574
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: I think, so for what reason were they going to rescind?

575
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: They just change their mind. I think that's right. Okay,

576
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna need a little more I'm

577
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: gonna need a little more of a reason than just yeah,

578
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: because it's a real no giftbacks at this point, I'm

579
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: glad you said that, because we have them with us

580
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 1: on the show today, joining us from now the yeah.

581
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like we're getting a lot of really

582
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: great logic other than that initial uh, you know thing,

583
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: And then they're like, actually, we thought about it again,

584
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: and like the only reason the rescension was because people

585
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 1: were being mean to us, isn't it, honey. I feel

586
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: like that's something that I throughout this whole, the whole

587
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: last four years, I've just realized how little do you

588
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: have to offer anything that makes sense, and then if

589
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: you just stand by that, people just let it slide.

590
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: For example, if I want to reschedule a podcast appearance

591
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: or a podcast guest, I feel like I have to

592
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: offer more than just hey, Like I usually give a

593
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: reason why not that, and I'm sure it's not necessary,

594
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: but in general, the way I conduct my life is

595
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,760
Speaker 1: that I want to be rational. I want to make sense.

596
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: All these things are weakness is you know, I don't

597
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm not capricious, But they never offer any of that,

598
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: and then they just stand by it and people just

599
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: accept it. It's kind of it. Yeah, and it is

600
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: bizarre to watch. I mean it's like we've been watching

601
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: it for so long. But they don't give any reason

602
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: for doing stuff like this, and then you just see

603
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: that their base then has to justify it in real time.

604
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: They're like, oh well, yeah, like they don't even say

605
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: this is why I'm doing this awful thing. They're like, oh, well,

606
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 1: he's probably doing this awful thing because because JP Morgan

607
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: sunk the Titanic or whatever. Right, And there's also literally

608
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: no stakes for them to rescind their certification because the

609
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: as the Michigan Secretary of State said, uh, there is

610
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: no legal mechanism for them to rescind their bout. Their

611
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: job is done where we're onto the next part um

612
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 1: and it doesn't seem like the whole thing seems like

613
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: they're just putting threads out there just to you know,

614
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: give because they know that their base is going to

615
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: just like grab onto anything and make it into you know,

616
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 1: it will pick up momentum because that is just how

617
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: like his relationship with his bass work. So they can

618
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 1: throw these threads out there. They have no legal standing. Uh.

619
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: They then like they're doing a thing. Ri Giuliani, you

620
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: showed up in a courtroom in Pennsylvania and like called

621
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: the judge the wrong name, called the other lawyer. That

622
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 1: angry man over there, claimed that Biden winning in eleven

623
00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,800
Speaker 1: of the biggest cities in America was proof of fraud,

624
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: even though there's like it's nobody like it would have

625
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: been surprising or you know, even suspicious if he hadn't

626
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: one of those cities. Uh, and then got directions to

627
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,640
Speaker 1: the nearest Martini bar and fucked off. And then on

628
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: the way out was like like literally they were talking

629
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: about where the nearest martini like best martini bar in

630
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: town is him? And then Judge Um, he says all

631
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: these public officials that are just like dining al fresco,

632
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 1: it's I just wanna like, I don't know die. I

633
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: didn't want to die. I do too good. I was disappointed.

634
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys have talked about this

635
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: on the show. I was really disappointed to see those

636
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: pictures of Newsom how I like Um. I know people

637
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: have a lot of problems in general. I I like him,

638
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: um to see those pictures of him at French laundry,

639
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: and it looked like an indoor dinner with no mask

640
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:44,839
Speaker 1: like medical profession. I thought it was out I was

641
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: totally cool with it. I hope it was outdoors. Maybe

642
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: it was outdoors. I don't know if I read something

643
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: that it was like he was getting pressure from donors

644
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: who wanted access to him. You're the fucking governor, do

645
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: like do you? I can't. I mean, I personally cannot

646
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: stand Newsome. I just like, he's just so frustrating. But

647
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: that is just it's so it is really um stunning

648
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: to watch how quickly the like back to normal rhetoric

649
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: is just like whatever, establishment politicians just going back on

650
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: their bullshit. Like it's just it's so fucking frustrating. But

651
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: then the people who are like, see, that's proof that

652
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: there's nothing to worry about. Like, that's not my interpretation

653
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: of it. My interpretation of it is they're willing to

654
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,959
Speaker 1: take a risk, but we shouldn't be taking risks because

655
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: it is scary out there. My interpretation of it is

656
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: that he like doesn't feel the need to play by

657
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,319
Speaker 1: the rules that he's setting. That's what's really frustrating me

658
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,720
Speaker 1: about how this is being handled in in certain states

659
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: and on city levels. Is like, it's just like the whatever.

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Speaker 1: The mayor of l A and the governor of the

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00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: state are constantly being like, wear a mask, it's not

662
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: that hard and trying to keep people's spirits up by

663
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: being like we're all in this together, We've got this.

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Speaker 1: But they will not take any decisive action like that.

665
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: It's just like forcing it on the individual, which is

666
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: just like being too cowardly to make a policy like

667
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: they're just they're like, it just drives it. It drives

668
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 1: me up a wall the way that it's just like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like by his doing that, he

670
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: just demonstrated that he is not willing to play like

671
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: he doesn't view himself as needing to play by the

672
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: own rules that he's constantly signaling undermine his message. I'm

673
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 1: in Burbank and I get these emails. I signed up

674
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: for these emails from the city, and there was one

675
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: just about how you know the numbers and how there's

676
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: a rise and we all need to be extra careful

677
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 1: and they're gonna, you know, we're going back to like

678
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: this level of lockdown. And they didn't use the word lockdown,

679
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: but like, as such, here are the changes, and it's

680
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: like you know, businesses and restaurants that operate indoors will

681
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: have to cap at it like and and it's like

682
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: all this all this stuff where it's like that is

683
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: not gonna do it like a little more. And I

684
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: know that there's a cost benefit analysis and that it's

685
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: bad for businesses, and you know, I get that it's

686
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,279
Speaker 1: way more complicated than just me sitting here saying we

687
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: need to shut down, but healthwise we do. Yeah, it's

688
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: like there's a there's a body count attached to them

689
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: not doing anything. It's just uh, but being failed on

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00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: such a gigantic level, it's just, uh, it makes me

691
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: sweaty all day. Well. One thing that I think we

692
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: also have to consider, guys, is that there is a

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Speaker 1: war on Thanksgiving happening. Uh. Yeah, So this was actually

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00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: something a writer jam pointed out that Uh last year,

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00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: there was an article in I think the Huffing and

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00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: Post that was basically raising the question of like, how

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00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: what is the carbon footprint of Thanksgiving? Because it's the

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00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: biggest travel day of the year. People are flying all

699
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,280
Speaker 1: over the place. We go, we like gorge on food

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00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: and then you know, fly back home. So what is

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00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 1: that doing to the environment. Doesn't matter. And there their

702
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: conclusion was like there it is. They're They're like, yeah,

703
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: it's not good, but like we still do it. Uh.

704
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: But so Fox and Friends last year were all over

705
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: this ship. Tucker Carlson was all over it. Cancel culture

706
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: has turned on the holiday Thanksgiving, telling America cancel Thanksgiving

707
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,320
Speaker 1: because of the carbon footprint. Uh that that's that was

708
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 1: their analysis of that. So they have been just fucking

709
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: dying for a war on Thanksgiving, like they've been creating

710
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,840
Speaker 1: one even when there wasn't one, when people weren't asking

711
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: you not to travel on Thanksgiving. So now that we

712
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,760
Speaker 1: actually have a life and depth reason to not travel

713
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: on Thanksgiving, they are aroused. Are so excited about this,

714
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: they're getting frothy. Baby, They've got a fart on for

715
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 1: the death of Thanksgiving. Yeah. So it usually obviously involves

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00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 1: traveling across the country, congregating indoors with groups of other people,

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00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: some of whom may be older. So the government is

718
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 1: now saying like, maybe don't do that, Maybe don't travel

719
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: across the country to sit in a room without masks

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00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: with your elderly relatives and who they're mad, I'm mad

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00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: about this even even Mississippi issued a statement where the

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Speaker 1: Mississippi Free Press posted a thing from their government saying,

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00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: after big Thanksgiving dinners, plans, small Christmas funerals, health experts worn.

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Speaker 1: Which I appreciate that coming from Mississippi. Um, but how

725
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: exciting from like an ad copy standpoint that they can

726
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,080
Speaker 1: come up with something so clever and so sinked. Yeah,

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00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 1: shout out to Mississippi. Uh. But turning point USA is

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00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: Charlie kirk Um. You know, I was very excited to

729
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,919
Speaker 1: address this. He did look like a divorced father who

730
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: was incredibly hungover in the in the video where he

731
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 1: was addressing it. But he said, the left hates Thanksgiving

732
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: because they think there's nothing you should be thankful for

733
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: in America. They're using the virus as an excuse not

734
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: to be thankful, uh, which I don't know, it's ridiculous. Sorry.

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Speaker 1: He also said that Thanksgiving is a religious holiday where

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Speaker 1: we thank God. That is not my understanding of it. No,

737
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: it's just like a weird celebration of American colonialism. That's

738
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: not a religion. Well, I mean I guess for some

739
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: people it is, but like that's I think it's a

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00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: passion for something thing yeah. Um. But going back to that,

741
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: having to post article from a while ago where they

742
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,919
Speaker 1: were looking at the carbon footprint of Thanksgiving and what

743
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: they realized was like, like you said, it's travel, that's

744
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: like the the biggest footprint. If I were a Turkey,

745
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hello, what about us? It's not the

746
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: travel about this massacre. So I say that as someone

747
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 1: who does eat turkey, but I don't feel good about it.

748
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Monster it is. It is like, I don't know, I

749
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 1: feel like, at least we have some idea of how

750
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: this argument is going to be framed. Because the war

751
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 1: on Christmas media has been going on for so long,

752
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, they just have pivoted to a different holiday.

753
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: But it is it is so like bizarre that I

754
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the arguments are framed like, well,

755
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: everyone on the left hates their family and love and

756
00:45:53,880 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: America here a Disease's Um, it is a hoax, obviously, uh,

757
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: but just honestly, it's just a way that they can

758
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: micro chip us all and sterilize us. Because I'm not

759
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: going to have help saying that for a long time. Yes,

760
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: they're going to punch you in the face and give

761
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: you a bloody nose because you aren't doing the micro

762
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: chipping and then they're gonna send you to heaven. Uh. Context,

763
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 1: it's how they talk. Yeah, I mean we we talked

764
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,840
Speaker 1: about how Kayleie mcnahey was saying that it's Orwellian to

765
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: ask people not to gather in large groups over the holiday.

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00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:47,320
Speaker 1: Fox Fox Business host Charles Paine called Cuomo's gathering restrictions

767
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: a separation of families just as like an actual like

768
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: fuck you too. Yeah. Um, By the way, how is

769
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: that I have read everything in Orwell's body of work,

770
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: but how is saying not to gather with your family

771
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: or Willian? Like? Did that happen in any of his books?

772
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't. There's a lot that these Orwellian, but I

773
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:16,759
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think preserving holiday gatherings was or

774
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't think we're well tackled that. I don't. I mean,

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00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be caught dead reading a book, but I

776
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: don't think that doesn't sound like it. I don't know.

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00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna be reading Andrew Cuomo's book, just kidding.

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00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: Do you see that he's writing a book? It's out?

779
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: I think it's Yeah, I think it just got replaced

780
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: about how he successfully managed the pandemic that is still

781
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: going on. Leadership in the time of COVID. It's his

782
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: sequel to Love in the time of cholera, where you

783
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: just serve finished the fucking job you before you cash

784
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: in on it. I hate everybody. Well, yeah, it's a

785
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: form of magical realism. I guess um. Laura Ingram is claiming,

786
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 1: I don't know why why am I continuing to because

787
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: it's so odious what they're saying. It's so silly and ridiculous,

788
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: and and they're all saying basically the same thing, and

789
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: the followers are eating it up. And actually, you know,

790
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's so basic this thing of like the

791
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: way that you get people to follow you is you

792
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: make them believe that they are being persecuted and that

793
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: someone is trying to take away their freedom and their

794
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: way of life. And they're all following this playbook and

795
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: it's working and it's gross. Yeah, it is working though.

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00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: I mean, she did nailis because she pointed out that

797
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: we worship at the altar of Fauci, which I don't

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00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: know if you guys have set up your altars yet

799
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: for the Thanksgiving holiday, but I have one in each room,

800
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 1: have set up some yeah, some candles and just a

801
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 1: picture of him shirtless. Photoshop work is uh, but in

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00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: the hours. So one thing jam a writer who is

803
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: from Canada, pointed out is that Canada celebrates Thanksgiving in October,

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00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: so we've already had a North American Thanksgiving under our belt.

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00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: And there was a spike in COVID cases afterwards that

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00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: people think, uh might be the reason because people were

807
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: traveling and going to see family on Thanksgiving. Interesting theory.

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00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 1: I wonder if there's anything to it. M hmm, if

809
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: only there was some way to know. Yes, yes, all right,

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00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and we'll come back and

811
00:49:45,000 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 1: talk about Christmas decoration. And we're back and Jamie, um,

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00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: I noticed on Twitter that you've been You tweeted a

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00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: truly cursed Christmas tree ornament. Then I I can't believe exists.

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Speaker 1: And and you are telling me that there are more

815
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 1: of these, is what I'm bothering. So this year is uh,

816
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: my first year living with my partner and living in

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00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 1: a place that a Christmas tree could sort of fit.

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00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 1: I like have been shopping for like a fake apartment

819
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: de sized Christmas tree so that is how I came

820
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: across these ornaments. It appears that thousands of them have

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00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 1: been sold. Uh, and they're all about I'm going to

822
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 1: drop some of them into the chat and then just

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00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: kind of describe them. But just keep in mind for

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00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,759
Speaker 1: people listening that every word I'm about to say is

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00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: in a different font and uh, and and that it's

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Speaker 1: accompanied by a cute little clip art. As you get

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Speaker 1: my first one, it says twenty it's and I have

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Speaker 1: to imagine this has to be the size of a

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00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: dinner plate because it says so many things. It says,

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00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 1: shop online, wash those hands clean and organized? What day

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00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: is it? Binge? Watching zoom? What's your temp? That one's sinister,

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Speaker 1: stay home or upside pickup home workouts survived? The TP

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00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: shortage that is also very harped on is the t

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Speaker 1: P shortage. Face masks flatten, the curve, YouTube game Nights

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00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: and my you tube Glenn, And then it just says

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Speaker 1: global pandemic. And that's an ornament you can put on

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00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,359
Speaker 1: your tree if you And then there here's another one.

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00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: They're all sorry real quick is what is design tube?

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00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that some new thing that the pandemic

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00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: gave us you Tube. So as the designer of these ornaments,

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00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping we can get some organic interest in

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00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 1: the in the parent market in YouTube via these ornaments.

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00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping we can really get everyone excited about

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00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: YouTube right in time for the holidame. Can I just

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00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: say how much I hate this? I mean, I just

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00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 1: couldn't hate it more. I hate that they're making. They're like,

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Speaker 1: this is like the but first coffee of a global

848
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Speaker 1: pandemic with death. It's so it's like this is like

849
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Speaker 1: something you'd make of with like inside jokes from your

850
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: family reunion. In this is making a bar. That's the

851
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 1: funt game being delivered here. It's very like wine o'clock

852
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: kind of graphics design. Uh So, the next one is

853
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 1: says a year to remember. This one's formatted like a checklist,

854
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: but there is a lot of clip art. A year

855
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: to remember toilet paper shortage check, bask wearing check, hand

856
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: sanitizer check, drive by parties check, herbside pickup, work from

857
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: home quarantine, travel band so distancing online school sports canceled

858
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: and worldwide pandemic check. And then this is it looks

859
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: like zero zero, So who can remember? Who can forget zo.

860
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Speaker 1: I hate this too. The last one I'd like to

861
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Speaker 1: share is uh maybe the worst one. It's it's the

862
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: twelve Days of coronavirus. In so it Allison is actually

863
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: physically getting illed. I won't I won't saying the whole thing,

864
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 1: but it goes you can, Okay, Okay, you know, Okay,

865
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Speaker 1: I've set myself up for this. I did. I was

866
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: just cackling when I because they're all on like the

867
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 1: best selling ornaments, Like they're like, these are the top ones.

868
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Speaker 1: A lot of people that are going to have these

869
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: dregs of man No, they're like the top. Okay, so

870
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: on the twelve the twelve Days of Christmas Corona gave

871
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: to me is what we're Yeah, the pandemic gave to me.

872
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:13,240
Speaker 1: Twelve canceled plans, eleven face masks, ten sanitizers, murder horn

873
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: nine murder hornets, eight zoom call, seven mental breakdown six

874
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 1: feet apart. That's the five curbside pick up, four quarantines,

875
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: three travel restrictions to Karen's complaining, and a message shortage

876
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: of TP. It's a real that's a really bold move

877
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: to say two Karents complaining for an ornament that is

878
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: clearly big marketed at Karen's. Yeah, like self aware Karen's.

879
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: So those are yeah, those are the most cursed coronavirus

880
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:55,760
Speaker 1: themed ornaments. Um they are. They are topping the charts

881
00:54:55,880 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: on Jeff Bezos his little experiment and yeah, they're they're

882
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 1: they're the worship I've ever seen. But they're all all

883
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: three of those are in the top ten right now.

884
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: Now is he the YouTube guy? I think he's managed

885
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: to get to YouTube. I think he should probably serve

886
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,840
Speaker 1: the channel though I think it would be very well received.

887
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: These are all like if there was a conversation starters

888
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,400
Speaker 1: for dummies like, these are all like how about the

889
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: murder hornets? Already imagining a scenario where I discovered that

890
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: someone I like has these ornaments. I mean I'm buying

891
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: all of them. Okay, I don't know. I don't presume

892
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: to say you'd like me, but these will all be

893
00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: on my Christmas tree I have. I have found all

894
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: three of these off of Amazon. Um, if you're not

895
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: if you're not doing Amazon, you can still get these

896
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 1: hideous ornaments. And I feel like I'm going to get one. Yeah,

897
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out just as like a relic

898
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: not as I'm not even gonna hang it up. I'm

899
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,760
Speaker 1: just gonna put it in a drawer and then someday

900
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: my children will be like, what's that and I'll have

901
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: to sing that song to them. Why do you think

902
00:56:11,840 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: YouTube it's on that one? Just I'm just I know

903
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: this is not the most the silliest thing. Why did

904
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: they just find out about YouTube during the pandemic? Do

905
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: you think? Well, as the graphic designer, I just learned

906
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: about YouTube earlier this year, and so it's been it's

907
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: been a big year for me and YouTube. And I'm

908
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna describe this one, but there's there's

909
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,439
Speaker 1: just so many there's so many fonts and YouTube is

910
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 1: uh not, there's more not the YouTube plont but there's

911
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,359
Speaker 1: more than one ornament that says YouTube on it, as

912
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: as if we were all as if we've all agreed

913
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 1: on this. I don't. I don't quite get it. Did

914
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: they be the idea is like you finally have time

915
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: to stay home and watch YouTube like we've always dreamed.

916
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: But there do they think that that's what people who

917
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: are doing? Do they think TikTok is YouTube? Oh? Is

918
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:14,760
Speaker 1: TikTok YouTube? How do we how would we ever know?

919
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: There's no way to tell you, guys, that's actually a

920
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 1: good call. The font situation in the one you just

921
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: sent is awful, like many Essential Workers is in a

922
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: like horror movie font um virtual learning just the use

923
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: of white spain. And I'm not a graphic designer at all,

924
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: but the use of white space under virtual learning is

925
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: very upsetting to me. I hate this one. I hate

926
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: the most, just aesthetics face masks. There's too many Sarah's happening.

927
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 1: It's very thermometer isn't first of all, it just is

928
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: thermometer in unreadable cursive. Wait where's that? I just sent

929
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 1: a there's so many thermometer? And what about these thermometers?

930
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: I think that's one that even like the worst like

931
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: conversation starter attempt like would still be like, what huh

932
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: right about this year? Right with the uh the thermometer? Right,

933
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 1: you know? And these essential workers? What are you talking about?

934
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:29,160
Speaker 1: It's brutal? Is that? Does that a birthday parade? Birthday? Yeah?

935
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: I think very bad job of writing parade that is

936
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 1: like that is a nightmare. I think the horror font

937
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: that says essential workers is just straight up offensive. That's

938
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:44,840
Speaker 1: really that one is a bad one. They didn't do

939
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: it in a I hadn't even noticed that, Like, but

940
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: it is a total that yeah, like someone wrote that

941
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: in blood on a mirror. Yeah. Um, I'm sorry that

942
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: I showed these to you, but I couldn't keep the

943
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: fact that someone somewhere is making a ton of money

944
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: off making these hideous ornaments. And uh, and people seem

945
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: to be on board. If you've purchased one of these ornaments,

946
00:59:13,800 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 1: reach out to me. I mean, this is I'm sure

947
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: there will be like more professionally designed and like work

948
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: chopped covid ornaments coming at us, But this just feels

949
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: like the the internet writ large, like people who use

950
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 1: who do their graphic design in Microsoft work like found

951
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,720
Speaker 1: this shortage before anybody else and was like okay, and

952
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: now everyone's like must buy and so gus such a

953
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: sinister market. I know, it's it's so funny that this is.

954
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,040
Speaker 1: People are so desperate for this stuff, they're just eating

955
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,439
Speaker 1: it up. When I was a kid, I was very

956
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: very into Michael Jackson. I did I don't think it

957
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: well knew yet that he was problematic. Um, but this

958
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: was yet, you know, ages before that, and we were

959
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: going to not Berry Farm and I had something that

960
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 1: was sort of popular among crafty people at the time,

961
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: which was a button maker. You could make your own buttons,

962
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: and it was like the button makers have come a

963
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: long way, but at this point there was like all

964
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: these different layers of like you do the paper and

965
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 1: then the backing and the plastic, and then you had

966
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: to pull this crank um to put it all together,

967
01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: which I was not strong enough to do. You know

968
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. Yeah, So I made all these

969
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: Michael jack because I was like, I want I'm going

970
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: Tonotsberry Farm and I want to display my love of

971
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. So I made all these homemade Michael Jackson. Yeah.

972
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 1: I know it could be anywhere, this homemade Michael Jackson buttons,

973
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: thinking that I was original. And then I got there

974
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: and there were all these cool, older teenagers with their

975
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: professional Listen, if you were going to Notsberry Farm at

976
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: this time and you liked Michael Jackson, you had to

977
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 1: wear buttons. I didn't know that. I thought i'd invent.

978
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,040
Speaker 1: Then there was all these older, cool teenagers with their

979
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: professional store bought Michael Jackson buttons, and my homemade Michael

980
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: Jackson buttons to their store bought ones? Are these ornaments

981
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: to look? Yeah? Yeah, I mean these are I need

982
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: to own these? Like these are these are the good ones?

983
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 1: These are the ones that you're going to be like

984
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: bragging that you have. Don't wait for the smooth, the shiny, fancy.

985
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:37,919
Speaker 1: There's establishment, there's like there's like the resin ones where

986
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:43,040
Speaker 1: Santa's holding a sack full of cleaning supplies and like

987
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: there's it's but those are those are no fun. There's

988
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 1: a lot of Rudolph in a mask, Santa in a mask,

989
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: Snoopy in a mask, the Grinch in a mask. Really

990
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: every sinister christ Christmas property they haven't in a mask

991
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 1: on an ornament for twenty dollars. But the best part

992
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 1: about these horrible ornaments is that they all cost four

993
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: dollars because at least they're like self aware. What are

994
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson? Was it? Alison? Uh? This was thriller? Yeah?

995
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,760
Speaker 1: I got some to Michael Jackson during the Bad era

996
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 1: that my friend and I did a concert where we

997
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: lip syncd lip lip sync lip synced to the Bad

998
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 1: album and invited all our neighbors over and were they

999
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: into it? Nor seven? And they like were actively like unimpressed.

1000
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, this is why are you making us

1001
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: watch this? Anyways, we're having a reunion concert coming up,

1002
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: so people will want the Wow. We should do it virtually.

1003
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 1: People need that during this time more than ever. Go on, Jack,

1004
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: here's an idea. Go on YouTube and stream it there.

1005
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people catching on. Yeah, a

1006
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 1: lot of people are catching on. Hell yeah, Alison. It's

1007
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: been a pleasure as always having you on the daily Zeitgeist.

1008
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 1: Where can people find you? Follow you? Uh? Follow me

1009
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: on Twitter and Instagram at Alison Rosen. Just one L

1010
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: and an I so a L I s O n Rosen. Um.

1011
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: Listen to my podcast, Allison Rosen is your new best friend,

1012
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: uh guest on Monday. It comes out Monday and Thursday.

1013
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 1: And on Monday I'll have Tim Hideker uh and I'm

1014
01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: putting my the Monday shows now on YouTube. So YouTube

1015
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: dot com slash Allison Rosen, please go subscribe because I'm

1016
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 1: basing myself worth on that subscriber number and it's not

1017
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: doing well right now, my self worth that is. And

1018
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: then also my parenting ish podcast that I do with

1019
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: comedian Greg fitz Simmons is called Childish, So go check

1020
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,320
Speaker 1: out both of those. Nice. Is there a tweet or

1021
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes?

1022
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: Can I plug one more thing of mine? Yeah? Um,

1023
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: thank you? Sorry. I have a book out. It is

1024
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: called Tropical Attire, Encouraged and other phrases that scare me.

1025
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: And it's just essays, funny essays. Um okay. So a

1026
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: tweet that I've been enjoying. It's by Eden Dranger and

1027
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: it says this is a pro hot dog account. If

1028
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,360
Speaker 1: you don't like hot dogs, fuck you. And I don't

1029
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 1: even like hot dogs. I just appreciate the sixcinct sentiment.

1030
01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: Just it cracked me up. I love I love a

1031
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 1: hard stance on a on a non topic. Yes, that

1032
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: is kind of what my So the Monday show is

1033
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,440
Speaker 1: an interview on my show, and the the Thursday show was

1034
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:28,240
Speaker 1: like a panel group show and it really is just

1035
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: talking about like mynu sha and having opinions about it.

1036
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,439
Speaker 1: Hell yeah yeah, Jamie. Where can people find you? What's

1037
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 1: a tweet you've been enjoying? Uh? You can find me

1038
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jamie loft as help, Instagram at Jamie

1039
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:52,720
Speaker 1: Cray Superstar. My new podcast, Lolita Podcast, comes out on Monday.

1040
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about that tomorrow, I think, And I'm

1041
01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 1: going to shout out it's my best friend's birthday today

1042
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: and she has an amazing Twitter account, so I'm gonna

1043
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: shout out her entire account in general. Her name is

1044
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 1: Julia Claire at oh Julia tweets. The tweet I will

1045
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 1: choose is her tweet that says, once again find myself

1046
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: thinking about my favorite headline of all time. And it's

1047
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: a Fox News story that says society is creating a

1048
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: new crop of alpha women who are unable to love

1049
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:34,320
Speaker 1: almost god. Um foxes fast right, all right, let's see

1050
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: a tweet I've been enjoying a tweeted getting bored of

1051
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 1: six and nine and four twenty. They should release new

1052
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: funny numbers tonight. You can find me on Twitter at

1053
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: Jack Underscore Brian. You can find us on Twitter at

1054
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: daily zeitgeis where at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We

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Speaker 1: have a Facebook fan page on a website, Daily zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: dot com, where we post our episodes and our foot

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Speaker 1: note we think off to the information we talked about

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Speaker 1: in today's episode as well. Is the song we ride

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Speaker 1: out on. I don't know if a song we can

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Speaker 1: ride out on a hit the hit the Protect Big

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Speaker 1: The Edge of New Clothes by Open Mike Eagle from

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Speaker 1: this New Hell Yeah. Uh. And today we are going

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Speaker 1: to ride out on the Edge of New Clothes from

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Speaker 1: Open mic Eagle. Uh. Recent guest on The Daily Ze Guys.

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Speaker 1: He has a new album out set is so good,

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Speaker 1: so dope. Uh. People need to check it out. This

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Speaker 1: is one of the best songs off of it. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to write out on that. The Daily

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Speaker 1: zey guys a production of My Heart Radio. For more

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Speaker 1: Apple podcast or wherever you listening favorite shows. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us this morning. We will be back

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Speaker 1: this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you all that. By lying on the edge of

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Speaker 1: the cliff, watching everything fall down, lying on the edge

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Speaker 1: of the world, I ain't afraid of anything, Lying on

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Speaker 1: on the edge of the world, I ain't afraid of anything.

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Speaker 1: Ain't nothing fun, just dumbing emotion. And I'm steady trying

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Speaker 1: to separate funds from promotional I'm doing what I'm supposed

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Speaker 1: to do, doing what I want to do. I set

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Speaker 1: myself