1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunts rut Fresh Radio, bringing you 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: the latest reports from the White Tail Woods and now 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: your hosts, Casey Smith Tyler Jones. This is Rutfish Radio 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,000 Speaker 1: powered by Vortics Optics. I'm your host Casey Smith, and 5 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: it is a hunter's wonderland out there right now. Hunters 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,439 Speaker 1: are mark around the country how cold weather and winter 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: storms can help them to kill big bucks. This is 8 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: rut Fresh Radio podcast brought to you by Vortex Optics. 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: I'm Tyler Jones, one of your hosts. The other host, 10 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: Casey Smith, that you've already heard from, is hanging out 11 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: with me. We're in the upstairs. We're looking out the 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: window or trying to find a late season buck. How 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: do we do that better? Ask your camera guys, because 14 00:00:57,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: they know way better than us. And they had a 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: good week and didn't they day? Man, we had a 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: great day on Texas Public recently. Um. Actually, we will 17 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: be talking about this on our podcast in the very 18 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: near future, maybe out and depending on when you listen 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 1: to this, and we'll be releasing videos from that day. 20 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: We had an epic epic day on Texas Public and uh, 21 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: all the camera guys got to shoot at some bucks 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 1: they did. Man, it uh it was kind of wild 23 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: uh and humbling in a way. Not that these guys 24 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: aren't good hunters, but um, you and I kind of 25 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: the brain children the o g s of the Elements 26 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: didn't really have good hunts. But the other guys out 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: their heads some pretty memorable hunts. I would say, one 28 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: dare I say one person shot their first buck? Ever, 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: how cool is that? That is pretty cool. I'm pretty 30 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: stoked about that. Man, Go ahead and chocoling up to 31 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 1: hunter recruitment for the Element. You know, dude, let's go. Yeah, 32 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: this is field to table what its finest? You know 33 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: what I mean, Like, we're just make things happen. So, dude, 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Along with your first buck 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: comes your first field dressing experience. That's something that I 36 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: wish the tubes of you would let us explain a 37 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: little bit better. I know, man, if y'all don't know this, 38 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: um YouTube is pretty hard on butchery, especially of wild game. 39 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 1: You can take a hog like I mean, like a 40 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: pink pig. But you start cutting up a wild hog 41 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: in the field or a deer, and it's gonna get 42 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: flagged for sure and taken down. So there's like it's 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: a really it's impeding to um, you know, new hunters 44 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: because you can't get the media out. It's weird though, 45 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 1: it's it depends on who you are and when you 46 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: put it out and everything else. Because I believe Mr 47 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: Steve has a video on field dressing a deer or 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,799 Speaker 1: something that does pretty well on the Mediator channel. If 49 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: you are a new hunter and you're interested in that, 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: you can check that out on their YouTube. I believe 51 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: it is there. Don't quote me, but I'm like ninety 52 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: percent sure that's there. Yeah. So, but yes, there was 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 1: some learning, some fun verbiage that we got to use 54 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: during that field dressing experience for Eric to help him 55 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: to understand what he should cut and what he shouldn't cut, 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: where he should poke and all that. And what was 57 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: awesome is that he didn't have a sharp knife. We 58 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: had a sharp n actually, so uh it was it 59 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: made things tougher. Make sure you have a sharp knife, 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,959 Speaker 1: just be careful with it. I uh. I tried to 61 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: give you one of those replaceable blade knoves earlier in 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: the in the year, and he turned it down. You 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: remember that everybody likes the thought of sharpening a knife. 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: That you realize you can't really sharpen a knife that will. Yeah, 65 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: and then oh this makes like um okay, I just 66 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: kinda go ahead and use this replaceably. He uh. He 67 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 1: re upped on that offer the other day when we're 68 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: at my house, you in the skin and yeah, I 69 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I still got that. I was there 70 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, where's it at. Sure enough, I'll 71 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: give it a try. This is the way he got. 72 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: So we've had we had a we had a good time. 73 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: You know. One one thing that's fun about hunting the 74 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: South is that your rut tends to extend, extend quite 75 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: a bit, and so like you have this opportunity to 76 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: get in on some rut action um outside of that 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: normal early November rut window. And so these these Midwestern 78 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: states that we've been interviewing a lot this year that 79 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: have gotten a lot of airplay almost Rout Fresh podcast, 80 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of them are really like they they almost 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: have like bleak outlook on this late season stuff sometimes 82 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: because it's so just shut down the deer. That's such 83 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: a hard, intense rut. The antlers are broken, the bucks 84 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: are you know, dying in the cold from being run down, 85 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,160 Speaker 1: the indoor shot during the rut, there's no rut action. 86 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: You know, if it's not brutal cold, you can't get 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,160 Speaker 1: them out in the in the daylight sometimes. And so 88 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: the thing about the South is that you know, not 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: only is the rutt not in a super intense window, 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: you know, quite as bad. But you've got um deer 91 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: that were born, like you know, the cycle happens where 92 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: like we've seen deer with spat it's in October. And 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: I mean, like like the Legit funds, Greg and I 94 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 1: saw one from the tree that I could still barely 95 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: see the outline of spot. This thing might a way 96 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: thirty pounds. It was the tiniest. And if we have 97 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: if we have another big snow, this thing's toast you know, 98 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: like it's too small to make it. And guess what 99 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: that deer is six months old and like February, and 100 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: guess what's gonna happen. It's coming to astress. Yeah. And 101 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,479 Speaker 1: so like we have trailcaring pictures of giant deer on 102 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: public in Texas, uh, chasing those rounds. Oh and in 103 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 1: February their hawks will be dark as coffee grounds. Yeah. 104 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: And so it's it's cool, it's it's not like something 105 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: you can go out and just bank on. You also 106 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: can't kill him that time of year either. Well yeah, 107 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: so I'm saying outside of the normal rut, you can't 108 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: go and just bank on like the fact you're gonna 109 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: find the rut fest. But we have, in fact found 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: some rut fests recently on Texas pub And when you 111 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: find that it's time to get you and your buddies 112 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: in that area and set up the wall like they 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: do on a kick off. It's kind of weird, but 114 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: it does seem to work. I mean the other day 115 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: we had some success and nobody killed, but we were 116 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: all on them. I mean, if we want to shoot 117 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: some running shots, you might could. I could shot the 118 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: biggest year we've probably seen on Texas public, um, if 119 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: I want to shoot a twenty five yard running shot, 120 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: which I don't want to do. So it was wild 121 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: man and a good time, and but we really saw 122 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: it like just in a matter of days kind of 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: dwindled down. But the interesting thing about the Southern you know, 124 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: trickle rut at the back end like it does, like 125 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: I don't think that there's many does coming in. We 126 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: talked about the Bell Curve I don't think it's um 127 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: perfectly parabolic, you know what I mean. I think that's 128 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: blow down a little bit more, you know what I mean. 129 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: I don't think that October sixteenth has near as many 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: does coming in as like say December one. You know, 131 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 1: I think that the throughout from about in the south 132 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: throughout about the second week of November until the new year, 133 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna have does coming in. And I think that um, 134 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: that keeps bucks at least there's some stuff. But just 135 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: in general, if you get out of the standardized upper 136 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: Midwest rut cycle, you know, um, you'll have even pretty 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: far north, you still see some of the stuff. But 138 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: what I'm getting at is that you'll have deer that um, 139 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: since they aren't at the highest level of height when 140 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: it comes to routtness, it's word um, they still have 141 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: to do the bodily functions. When you add the word 142 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: nest to things, it's good. Um. The so they'll eat, 143 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: they'll drink, they're bad to do all the stuff, but 144 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: they're always still kind of in the mode. So like 145 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: when you see those, it gets you excited. Whenever you're 146 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: hunting around scrapes or other deer sign, it gets you 147 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: kind of excited because I mean, they'll be deer in 148 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: the south hitting scrapes until all the deer seasons are 149 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: over from here on out. It's never a bad time 150 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 1: to be around one. It's also not a bad time 151 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: to be around foods horses because there's less acrons in 152 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: the woods. Acorns um for y'all out there. And um, 153 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: also that means the US. Uh. That means that those 154 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: deer either on an egg or if UNI feed state, 155 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: they're on the feed. And we actually in this episode 156 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: a couple of guys make use of feed and it's 157 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: interesting to hear, but um, it's not the uh, huge 158 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: pile of bait um type thing. A lot of these 159 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: guys who are having success using feed are doing it sparingly, 160 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: but in just the right amounts to kind of hold 161 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: deer or just slow them down or make them stage 162 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,719 Speaker 1: in certain spots. I think there is a pretty good 163 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: tactic behind hunting bait. It's not just shooting pinned deer, 164 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, Like, it's a lot different than that. I 165 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,680 Speaker 1: don't even care, Like to me, it's just so it's 166 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: such a dumb thing to fight over. It's warning, there's 167 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: there's just there's laws, and there's bag limits that take 168 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: care of this thing. And if they need to be 169 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: a just because people are so effective, than adjust them. 170 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: You know, let it don't let us kill two deer 171 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: two bucks in one season, which we can't in our 172 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: county anyway. So you know that's it's like, it's just 173 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 1: not a deal to me. It's like they're good and 174 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: bad things that come with everything. Man, the world's a 175 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: little bit uh on the way down, if you know 176 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: what I mean. So, um, you know, you could you 177 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: could say that uh uh human water tower is a 178 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: good thing because we can all have clean fresh water, 179 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: but then are they putting chlorine and all kinds of 180 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: stuff in this Yeah, so look yeah, I mean, and 181 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: so you know that's like a human bait pile. You know, 182 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: it's like a human uh water water feature property. You know, 183 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, like we can we could 184 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,719 Speaker 1: fight over things all day. Um, but whether you have 185 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 1: whether you leaves standing corn in the back of a 186 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: cornfield or you just go ahead and put you a 187 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: bunch of standing corn uh falling calling corn on the 188 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: ground back in there, then you know it's whatever. Just 189 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 1: don't alphabe as we hear and here. You know, there's 190 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: a lot of different ways to sure to cut this. 191 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: But since I mean there's all kinds of human interaction, 192 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: like what if you I mean, do you get to 193 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: say that rattling is okay? If you're introducing this fake 194 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 1: rattling horns, you're deceiving the deer and the deer. Yeah, hey, 195 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: we're out there to shoot some deer and eat them. 196 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: That's what that's what it's about to my wife. My 197 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: wife has text me right now which meat to get 198 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: out of the freezer. Yeah, you can't find the elk though, 199 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: can't you? Down too long ago? So? Uh, speaking of success, 200 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 1: we talked to some guys who have been having some 201 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: success on the podcast today Tyler, who are we talking 202 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: to this week? Man? We got uh, we got some 203 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: new New States involved here and like we said earlier, 204 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: their Midwest guys. Uh. When we reached out to them 205 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: and they're just so sad that the rud is over. 206 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: We had to talk to some different They gave us 207 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 1: some zeros, so we had to you know, you can't 208 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: be having zeros on the book, that's right. So we 209 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: we got Gary Greenwall on the on the phone, and 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: he's an old friend ours from Washington State killed a 211 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: nice buck up there. Um Grant Forney, who you guys 212 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: have heard from already the season Pennsylvania, which is a 213 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: cool state man, lots of different very habitat there. Grants 214 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: is talking about mountain country. Um. Another Mountain countryman, Chris 215 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:22,239 Speaker 1: b was in Oklahoma and killing mountain bucks in Oklahoma. 216 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: So we're pretty uh, pretty pretty cool report from there. 217 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: And it also our friend Justin Henry from Florida gets 218 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: to talk about them swampy Everglades nasties down there in 219 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: Florida and there they're just that. You call them swamp 220 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: monsters in some parts of the country, but they're not 221 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: monsters in Florida. They're just swamp something. Well, I think 222 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: it's monsters more of like the UHC, you know, the 223 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: connotation of the word. So like it's like, yeah, they're 224 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: like scary. What's what's the term for a monster? I'm 225 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: thinking I'm blanking on it. Um. We had a guy 226 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,599 Speaker 1: on our podcast one time that talked about like a 227 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: big foots and stuff. Oh encrypted, yes, crypt yeah or 228 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Yeah, crypto zoology, cryptid as well, So 229 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: that's that's what they're talking about. Cryptids are yeah, kind 230 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: of supposed fake animals, which, um, funny enough, m Florida 231 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: and Texas monster deer might be cryptids, but there's some 232 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: good ones man. And I don't know, I like talking 233 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: to people who hunt in unique areas. Um, you know, 234 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: Justin has some pretty good hunts down there in Florida, 235 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: which you know, you can't even look at Florida on 236 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: the map and be like, oh, I want to go 237 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 1: hunt there. But you know, people make it work and 238 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: it's all relative, right, if you're getting out and deer 239 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: hunting and having fun doing what you're doing, Um, doesn't 240 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: matter if it's zero degrees or seventy in human you know, 241 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: you're still hunting white and there s makes some neat man. 242 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: It is, man, it really is. They're so diverse, right, 243 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's kind of one of those things 244 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: where like I when we were out hunting on Texas 245 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: Public this weekend, both of us had this weird thing 246 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:00,319 Speaker 1: where like we have struggled so much on some of 247 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: these properties around kind of around home or whatever, and 248 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:05,719 Speaker 1: it was but it was like while we're out there, 249 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: we're like, man, this is this is like I've missed 250 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 1: this a little bit it's weird, like there's no place 251 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: like home, like they say, you know, and that's kind 252 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: of one of those things, is like you you you 253 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: hunt in Florida because you live in Florida, and that's 254 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,720 Speaker 1: just what you make the best out of what you got, 255 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 1: you know. And like I said earlier, we're out there 256 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: to eat these things, you know what I mean in 257 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: the end. So it's fun to go hunting them elsewhere, 258 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: whether big sometimes too, but like, yeah, you know that. Uh. 259 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: We talked to a guy who State touches the Pacific Ocean. 260 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: We talked to a guy who State touches the Gulf 261 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: of Mexico and the Atlantic Ocean, and they're all hunting 262 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: white till Yeah. Next time, we gotta get some many 263 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: touches the Panama Canal one of these days. Yeah, well, 264 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: let's hear from these guys and get the report. All right, 265 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 1: all right, I've got Gary Greenwalt here. He hunts up 266 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: in the Washington State. Uh, one place that we have 267 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: not had on the fresh stuff yet. So we're excited 268 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: to get the report. Gary. You've had some success recently, right, 269 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: I did, yep, scoring on I think it was the 270 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: second So the second okay, okay, come down from Alaska 271 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: since I moved up there first time in four years 272 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: and things just kind of panned out right with conditions, 273 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: So it's awesome. So yeah, you you have a very 274 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: methodical approach to it, and it has to do with weather, 275 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: weather conditions, right, Can you talk about that a little bit? Yeah, well, 276 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: what what weather? In time of year? It's like, you know, 277 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: everybody wants to hunt the rut. But I'll take the 278 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: first week in December and some nice cold weather and snow, 279 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: um anytime from about December one December seven, and if 280 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: I get the weather conditions right, I can pretty much 281 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: guarantee I'll kill it here. And that's been I've got 282 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: a wall fold show for it. Yeah, I know you do. 283 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: And that's a that's based off of like a heavy 284 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: feed pattern, right, Yeah, it's it's post rout feed is 285 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: what you're really really banking on. And then there's some 286 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: second rud activities. Well, so though those two things wrapped up, 287 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, those bucks are coming around to feed, they're 288 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: coming around checking for those last few does coming back 289 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: into heat. Okay, so so you are seeing a little 290 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: bit of cruising steel I guess, or yeah, the buck 291 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: that I actually killed. I had actually done a little 292 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: bleat and grunt sequence about five minutes before, and he 293 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: came in looking, wow, man, that's cool. So well that 294 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: well that hang around for a while or is that 295 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: something that uh, the second rut stuff will taper off 296 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: pretty quick, but the feed patern will stick now through January? 297 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: Really does it get does the does the feed pattern 298 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: get more intense going forward? Like is it is it 299 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: something that with more and more snow it gets more 300 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: intense or is it just like pretty much like constant. 301 00:15:41,640 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah it will, Yeah, I definitely will. So, I mean 302 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: it'll be largely weather dependent than you know, the more 303 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 1: snow we get, the colder it gets, the more intense 304 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: that feeding will get. Those those deer it almost seems like, 305 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if I want to call it, they 306 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: compete for the food, but but it gets to a 307 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: point where the day movement on a lot of the 308 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: older bucks almost come in first to get to the 309 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: feed before for the dose young. So we're talking about 310 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: feed here. I'm not familiar with the legalities in Washington. 311 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: You're talking about baiting stations or is it an agricultural 312 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: food source? Well, so we we use. I use bait 313 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: um that they changed our laws quite a bit where 314 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: we're limited on the amount you can use. So really 315 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: now about half bail Health South is about as much 316 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: as we can use. But gender that's all it takes. 317 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 1: And I generally set these things up in transition zones 318 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: where they're moving out the tag fields UM where they'll 319 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: get the rest of their feeds. So they're there areas 320 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: you had hunt anyways, and the bait just kind of 321 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: sweetens this pot up a little bit. Yeah, it makes sense. 322 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: That's kind of like that Canada top hunting where you 323 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: just put out a hay bale in the snow and 324 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: the big bucks coming. Yeah, that's cool. So what's the 325 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: major egg feed source that those two are moving to 326 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: UM right now? Probably winter weets the biggest one UM. 327 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: And then there there's stubble fields and stuff and volunteer 328 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: wheat that will come up underneath an old spill green 329 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: piles they can find every once in a while UM. 330 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: And then there's just a lot of natural brows too. 331 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: At this time of year, are you doing any morning hunts? 332 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: Are you shifting in specifically? I don't that that's one 333 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: thing kind of baffles guys and even my outfit guys 334 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: like why we're going out first things that you're spook 335 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: all the dyer. It's like I generally get in the 336 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 1: stand about nine o'clock. Yeah, well it's also freezing cold, 337 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's a good one good 338 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: time to sit there and drinks off here. It's it's hard. 339 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: The all day sits are hard, and in tests you 340 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: when you start off be in the dark. But I 341 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,120 Speaker 1: mean I've done that before. Um, I just never really 342 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: seen it pan pan out that much. So but I 343 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: just kind of went away from it. And you know, 344 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: I've shot here at ten in the morning and right 345 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: to the last light, but I've never shot one I 346 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: think much earlier and ten in the morning when I'm 347 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: bow hunt. So so you are getting there in the morning, 348 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: just not at day yeah, just not just not you know, 349 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: before light. Yeah, what's the strategy as far as uh 350 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: sticking it out throughout the day? You're bringing hot food 351 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: with you or how do you make yourself staying there? 352 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: I actually don't. I don't eat or drink on stand 353 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: because I generally don't want to make the noise. Um. 354 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: I generally have heat packs underneath the good gear, um, 355 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: and that that's in good boots. Just write it out. 356 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: So man, a lot of pizza when you get home. Yeah, 357 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: I believe me. I eat a lot and get back. 358 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So uh one last question about this whole process, like, 359 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: how are you what are you assuming is betting in 360 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: that area? How do you find betting? And to make 361 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: that assumption that here's betting, here's the destination. So I'm 362 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna put alfalfa in between. Um, basically, thirty thirty plus 363 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: years of hunting out here, I know what what for 364 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: where they're at generally speaking this time of year, in 365 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: this type of train, I'd be looking for brushy south slopes, 366 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: places where they can get some sunlight and find some 367 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: thermal cover if they need it when the weather hits. Um. 368 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: So it's like I said, a lot of it's just 369 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: experience out here, but I could replicate the results in 370 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: other areas knowing what I'm perfect cool. So uh, I 371 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: hear that you guys got some fresh snow. With that 372 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: in mind and whatever else you got coming up, how 373 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: do you feel in the next next week about you know, 374 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: buck movement. If you were to rate it on a 375 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: scale of one to ten. What would you rank man? 376 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 1: Yesterday it was at ten when I was l hunting. Um, 377 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: I think it's probably gonna keep on about like that. 378 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 1: It's gonna get I don't really see it tapering off 379 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: with this weather. Um. So the guys here in Washington, 380 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: I think they got till the fifteenth kill a deer. 381 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: It should be good the rest of the way through season. 382 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: And I think Idaho opens up on the tenth and 383 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,679 Speaker 1: those guys, you know, they can't do the feeding that 384 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: we can do, but you know, if they got a 385 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: good food source, that should be good for him to 386 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: just stick with it and and see decent movement that 387 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: this weather is a huge help for that. So okay, 388 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: well cool man, Well thanks for giving us a report 389 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: and we appreciate it. And uh, well we'll be talking 390 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: to you seeing man. You know what, actually you never 391 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: gave us a number. Oh, I'd rate it to nine, 392 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: all right, dude, yeah, ten yesterday, nine today or next week. 393 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: I think people should get out there and get after 394 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: if they're in Washington state. So again, thanks for doing 395 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: this thing, man, and we'll be talking to he's saying, 396 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure say man, all right, now I've got Cris 397 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: be on the line here. We're talking about Oklahoma. You 398 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: had some success there recently. What's going on, Chris? What's up, guys? 399 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on. Yeah, dude, for sure, man, 400 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: I mean, pretty reliable guy, you know, so you can 401 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: rely on you to be hunting deer, you know, at least. 402 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: So Yeah, it seems like it's slowing down, is slowing down. 403 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, this last week in Oklahoma early December, never 404 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,239 Speaker 1: really done it before, actually jumped on a lease with 405 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: a couple of buddies from Unguided Outdoors and it was 406 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 1: it was pretty weird. It really high deer numbers. We're 407 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: kind of in the hill country southeast Oklahoma, and there 408 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: is an incredible amount of doughs, like a very unhealthy 409 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: amount of dough was. Um. So, with that said, like 410 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: the buck that I shot, he was actually still out 411 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: like searching, like he I saw him like two yards 412 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: just running like just looking, you know, and I just 413 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: grunted at him and he whipped his head and just 414 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: came right in. Um So, they I really think that 415 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: they were still running that hard that late because the 416 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 1: amount of doze, you know, they're trying to breed all 417 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: of them. Um And That's why it's like a big 418 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 1: effort for like our crew to just try to get 419 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: those dough numbers down because it's making the bucks really 420 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: unhealthy just running and competing for food and all that. 421 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 1: But yeah, they were still they were still chasing for sure, 422 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: was wasting some of that down in this area. To um, 423 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: how big was the body size that buck you shot? 424 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: Not very big? I mean we were guessing him at 425 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: four UM and he was drawning, i mean, bony and 426 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: just really run down. And one of the other guys 427 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: actually saw him in October and then you know, I 428 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: showed him the video and totally he's like, wow, he's 429 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: like that deude got small. Yeah, those mountain bucks, like 430 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: they're they're just the southeast Oklahoma mountain bucks are just 431 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 1: kind of like it's crazy how small they actually are 432 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: sometimes you you know, they just southern climate and running 433 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: and running up and down those hills, they just get rangy, 434 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: you know. So it's pretty cool. They that's like Postoke country, right, 435 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of Postoke achorns on the ground or not, 436 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: I think. So, Yeah, I'm not super familiar with with 437 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Oklahoma in general, but yeah, they're like super short, maybe 438 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: thirty ft tall tall. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So are you 439 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 1: running cameras in a place like that, you know, like 440 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: at least like that and kind of turning Target Bucks 441 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: and doing that or was this kind of a surprise 442 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: deal for you? This was kind of a surprise deal 443 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: for me just because this is my first year. But 444 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: the other guys, I mean, we're trying this place. We're 445 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: really trying to make something. You know, we're all kind 446 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: of new on it. But yeah, we'd love to be 447 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: running cameras and do more of a management and it's 448 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: a big enough piece to do that. Um And either 449 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for us right now and that make 450 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: it better is shooting a lot of toes. I mean, 451 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's ridiculous. How many does are I've 452 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: never seen a place like it. Is there a tactic 453 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 1: to what time of year it's good to shoot those? 454 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 1: In your opinion? I've heard it both ways, you know, 455 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 1: like shoot him early so that, um, you you are 456 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: getting rid of the competition for food and for rut 457 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: um like before the rut And then I've heard, you know, 458 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 1: shoot them late so that you're not messing up you're 459 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: hunting and everything during the right. So I like to 460 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: play a place like this. It's definitely easier to shoot 461 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 1: them later, I think, just as a conveniencing. But we've 462 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: been all the guys we've been shooting, like obviously, I've 463 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: only been down there once and I actually shot four 464 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 1: like in one morning, Like it was ridiculous, And but 465 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: all the guys have been shooting them all year long. 466 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 1: But that tagged out bro. Yeah. No, I was in 467 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 1: the tree for an hour, a nice shop five year. 468 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 1: Oh what's the buck? The fifth? Dear? You shot four? Four? Yeah? Shot? 469 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: I shot him, and then another dog came and I'm like, 470 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I need to get how many quivers 471 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: does your bo hold? Man? It was five arrel quiver? Yeah, 472 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: I was done. There're another buck box watching them. Oh dude, 473 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: that's wild man, that's fun. Well, so you know, I 474 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: guess you guys are still hunting kind of the rut 475 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: up there. Uh now when we look forward to next week, 476 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: are you still would you still be kind of like 477 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: which I don't know you may uh, you know, you're 478 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: obviously not gonna be there with the shooting five arrows 479 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: on one one uh sitting but like can't like if 480 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: you were going to be there, would you still be 481 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: focusing on rut action funnels, pinch points those kind of 482 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: things maybe like saddles on in that mountain country or 483 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 1: are you looking at food sources coming up? Yeah, so 484 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: they're definitely gonna be switching the food this next week. 485 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: And I think I hit like the last little bit 486 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: of running, you know, running around, and and Bucks were 487 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 1: still being um, those are the few days if they're 488 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,439 Speaker 1: really switching over. I think you know, Bucks were on food. 489 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: Bucks were still mingling with those and not having to 490 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: bump them, um, you know, being more cordial and stuff. 491 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, I definitely think switching the food. Corn is 492 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,200 Speaker 1: king in that country too. I know, it's like Texas. 493 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 1: That's a thing man, for sure. Cattle. If you look forward, 494 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,760 Speaker 1: the cattle were driving me nuts. We'd we'd have to 495 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: like just broadcast a little bit out. And it's like 496 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: the thing that's down there too. We're still hunting in 497 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: good areas, good normal movement deer areas, and then we 498 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: just kind of like throw a little bit out because 499 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,440 Speaker 1: you can, um and then to keep some those around 500 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: or whatever. But yeah, yeah, well if you look forward 501 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: to the next week here, if you had to rate 502 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: it on a scale of winded tea and what would 503 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: you rate buck movement going forward? If you've got a 504 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 1: good cold front, it's gonna be really good. It's it 505 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: switches again. I think the weather dependency. Yeah, yeah, cool man. Well, 506 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: sounds like some fun times there to be had still 507 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: with the with some cold frinds coming through and the 508 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 1: I'm switching to food. I think that's kind of the 509 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: game of late season. So, um, congrats on all the success, man. 510 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: I wish you, uh, you know, things well in the 511 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,640 Speaker 1: in the future with your travels and everything else. Dude, 512 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: and we'll be talking. I appreciate you hopping on with 513 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 1: us on the phone. We've got Grant Forney from the 514 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: Everyday Outdoors when he's been up in p A doing 515 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: some hunting. Grant, what's happening due, I'm much just uh 516 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: staying busy here with hunting season. Awesome time of the year, 517 00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:51,959 Speaker 1: so looking forward to the next time I can get 518 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: out here. Thanks for having me. You're welcome, dude. How 519 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: much hunting do you get to do? I know you 520 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: you uh, you work hard and you hunt hard, so 521 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: how does that work out for you? Yeah? It's um, 522 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: I get out a pretty good amount. UM. Usually try 523 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: to get out at least one week night plus the 524 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:15,320 Speaker 1: weekends and plus about two weeks of vacation time a 525 00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: year for hunting. So you know, the past couple of years, 526 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: I probably average probably average around like forty forty days 527 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 1: a year I'm making out, which is, you know, pretty 528 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: good for my situation. So yeah, that's awesome. Man. Now 529 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: the long season helps with that too. I can I 530 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: can hunt um all the way through the end of January, 531 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: so that a little bit. So when you're when you're 532 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: thinking about p A, when what time of year is 533 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: your favorite? Are we coming up like you locked this 534 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 1: late season stuff that we're looking at here, it can 535 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: be good. Um. Ideally i'd like to have my buck 536 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: tag build by now and p A since we're one 537 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: buck eight, But it wasn't fortunate enough to UH to 538 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: get a buck this year during our first archery season. 539 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,760 Speaker 1: So we're halfway through gun season now and I've still 540 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: got my buck tag, which is a bad thing either 541 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: because I do like hunting this time of year. Yeah, 542 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: PA gets a lot of pressure on the public land 543 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: during gun season, but it still can be good hunting. UH. 544 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,159 Speaker 1: One of the biggest things this time of year is 545 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 1: like this is this is the best time of year 546 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: for hunting the overlooked spots, if you're hunting public land. 547 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,880 Speaker 1: I mean, this is when pressure it's at its highest. 548 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,639 Speaker 1: And if you if you have a spot on public 549 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: land that's overlooked, whether it's a spot that nobody thinks 550 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: of close to parking or if it's just so deep 551 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: that nobody wants to go to it, like, this is 552 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: the time a year where you can do well at 553 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: those spots. What's the weather like this time of year? 554 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: Typically it's uh, you know, it varies a lot, honestly 555 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: right now. Um, like this week we have some days 556 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: with highs in the fifties, which is pretty warm, but 557 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 1: a lot of times it'll be like lows will be 558 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: in the twenties, highs will be like mid thirties, high thirties. Uh, 559 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: those are kind of temperatures we look for right now. 560 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: So like this morning was perfect. I wish I could 561 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: have been out this morning. So yeah, you help. What's 562 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: that Does snow help you or in this time of year? Yeah, yeah, 563 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: snow can definitely help. Like when I'm hunting up in 564 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: up in the mountains in northern p A. We got 565 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: some snow that's good for for tracking and being able 566 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: to locate deer this time of year for sure, So 567 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: I definitely look for that, you know, look for still 568 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: look for those those cold mornings, those cold temps, and 569 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: uh trying to find those overlooked spots or just just 570 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: areas in general that haven't had pressure during gun season. 571 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: You know, if you can combine those two things, you 572 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: can still have some really good hunting here during gun season. 573 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,040 Speaker 1: How do you what's your best tip or two for 574 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: finding if a soft spot. Essentially, if we're a place 575 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: where pressure is non existent this time of year, I 576 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: would look for places that are just hard to access, 577 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: even if they're not far so, like a place where 578 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: you might have to cross the creek or you might 579 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: have to uh get through some really nasty stuff to 580 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: get to the backside of maybe a public peace. Uh 581 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: look for really steep terrain. A lot of our mountain 582 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: bucks in this state this time of year will well 583 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: really head to that steep stuff and people I don't 584 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: really want to walk that stuff either, So these are 585 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: definitely the things I look for, uh this time of year. 586 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: How are you hunting steep terrain. Are you hunting a 587 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: trail that's uh, you know, kind of run in parallel 588 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: to the to the ridge or or how does that look? Yeah? 589 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Sometimes that sometimes a trail on the top of the 590 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: ridge that's running parallel with the ridge or Uh. A 591 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: big thing too is looking for benches in that steep terrain, 592 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: even it's just a very subtle bench, you know, just 593 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: just a very narrow flat spot where those you're gonna 594 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 1: gonna gonna run the side of a steep mountain. Uh. 595 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: We key in on those and and have done well 596 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: on those, and uh, you know, even even like for 597 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: still hunting, like if you're gonna, um have a windy 598 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: day or a rainy day where the leaves are wet 599 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: and you're gonna cover some ground, try to try to 600 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,959 Speaker 1: find a buck if you just walk, you know, the 601 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: top of a ridge looking down over the side, Um 602 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: sneak along there and uh and try to find a 603 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: buck that's bedded down on the side of the hill 604 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: before he sees you, you know, or wins you. That's 605 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: a good way to to you know, especially during gun 606 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: season when when you've got the advantage to be able 607 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: to reach out there a little bit more with some 608 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: more range. Yeah, man, that's actually pretty exciting. It sounds 609 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: like a fun hunt. So as you look forward to 610 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,480 Speaker 1: this mid December time period, what do you expect the 611 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: bug movement to be? Like, I would say, coming up, 612 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: I would give it like a six. Uh with the 613 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: opening week of gun season pressure maybe dying off a 614 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: little bit. I think it can can almost get better here. 615 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 1: Uh later the gun season. Uh, you know, six still 616 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: doesn't sound great, but maybe compared to uh, after after 617 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: the first three days a gun season, I would probably 618 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: rate the buck movement at only like maybe a two 619 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: or three when they're feeling all that pressure. So, you know, 620 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: compared to that a six, A six is pretty good 621 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: compared to what we were seeing, you know, just a 622 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,239 Speaker 1: little bit ago. So I think absolutely, you know, if 623 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: anybody it works every time, six, I mean that's awesome. 624 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: Grant well, dude, I hope you are able to capitalize 625 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: on that still available buck tag. Did you have their 626 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 1: in p A man? I know that. Uh it's kind 627 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: of a little bit uh maybe disheartening to still have 628 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: a tag this time of year, but that means you 629 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: get to hunt, dude, and that's exciting. So I hope 630 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: you hope you can find a good one. Yeah. Well, 631 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: I really appreciate it, guys. Yeah, I hope so too. 632 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: But like you said, hey, it's never a bad thing 633 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: to still be able to be out there hunting. So 634 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: gonna give it my best try here. Uh this last 635 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: week a gun season and then in the late archery season. Awesome, man, Well, thanks, 636 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: I appreciate the the info. Dude. Yeah, hey, thanks a lot. Guys, 637 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: really appreciate it. I have got Justin Henry here. He 638 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: is a hunter in Florida. Man, you've been uh taking 639 00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: some uh some liberty and going do a little hunting 640 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: there in Florida, I believe, right, sir. Yeah, yeah, the 641 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: weather has been a little on the warm side, but 642 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: still gotta get out when you can. Okay. So that's 643 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: relative across the country. Tell me what warm weather is 644 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: where you're at there in Florida for deer hunting. Uh, 645 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: you know, normally this time of the year, December mornings 646 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: usually high fifties, and you know, the highs are usually 647 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 1: about seventy to seventy five, and that's generally what it's been. 648 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: And we've had the humidity has been kind of dissipating, y'all. 649 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: In Texas. You all know all about that wonderful humidity. 650 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so, uh we're actually looking forward to, um 651 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,919 Speaker 1: maybe some cooler weather this week. Possibly, not sure, good man. So, um, 652 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,560 Speaker 1: what time of the years, y'alls? Rut where you're at? Uh, 653 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: Central Florida where I'm at is typically during our muzzle 654 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,560 Speaker 1: d season. So we'll call it mid October. Okay, got you? 655 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: So you are on a post rut pattern down there 656 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: where you at right now? So what are the what 657 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 1: are the deer doing? Um? Really kind of think with 658 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: the with the with the weather. I mean, I know 659 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: they're always used to being hot, but it's it's it trickles, 660 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: it's spotty. Um. You know, I say our rudd is 661 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,239 Speaker 1: is mid October, but it really I mean you could 662 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: go across the street and there's pockets that could be 663 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: three weeks later or so on and so forth. But UM, 664 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 1: seen a lot of dose on camera. Talked to a 665 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 1: few buddies, UM seem some smaller bucks nothing but sure 666 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: has been poking and um A couple of guys did 667 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: say the past two days though, that their cameras have 668 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: been lighting up with some more mature deer on it. 669 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 1: So I was thinking maybe they might start be start 670 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,759 Speaker 1: to daylighting a little more. Mm hm. So I got 671 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: two questions here they're in the same vein. One is 672 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: what kind of agriculture could these deer be using to 673 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: feed on? When I think of post rut, I think 674 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: of I think of food, right, And then the second 675 00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: one would be, well, you know, is there other native 676 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: food sources as well that they're they would be keen 677 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: on it and post post rout situation right now? So 678 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: I went out Monday to hang some cameras and all 679 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: I could hear was acorns draining still back into swamp. 680 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 1: I'm still finding acorns all over the ground. Uh. You know, 681 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: we had some hurricanes that we were flooded out pretty 682 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: bad and a lot of our low lying areas, but 683 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: um acorns. I feel like right now we're still keen 684 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: if they're if they're in their area and they're dropping, 685 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: I feel like acorns are still um okay, is there? 686 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 1: I mean, do think is there any planting that goes 687 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: on in the agricultural space that of you know, it's 688 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 1: a food source for deer or is it like sugarcane 689 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: or what do you what do you got that that 690 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: would be more South Florida. Okay, yeah, the more agg 691 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: field type. I wouldn't even call him agg fields, but uh, 692 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: the switch grass fields and the salt grass and things 693 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: like that. That's kind of what we have patches of 694 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: them in central Florida, but that's more South Florida. It's 695 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: pretty much just woods or food plots. God, just so 696 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: hurricane season pretty much lines up with deer season. How 697 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: bad does that affect what you have going on? Do 698 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 1: you think that since y'all did have a storm, they're 699 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: kind of late October, does that mean that there's those 700 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:40,919 Speaker 1: that didn't get bread so the rut could be weird 701 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: this year? You know, I haven't thought about that, but 702 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: I do believe that possibly could be a possibility. I mean, 703 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: you're talking to three day a three day occurrence where 704 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: we had twenty of water in a twenty four hour period. 705 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm sure that disturbed. Yeah, I'm sure 706 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: it disturbed. Um moved into high ground quick leek um. 707 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 1: So we had that much train last year. That was 708 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: the first that was that was that was quite crazy. Actually, 709 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 1: that was one of the worst hurricanes I've been through. Well, 710 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: glad you made it. They are I mean, so as 711 00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: going forward. You know you're looking uh at kind of 712 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400 Speaker 1: this mid December time period. What do you expect the 713 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: deer to be doing right now? Um? I would have 714 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,879 Speaker 1: to say should start to pick up just a little bit, 715 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: just looking at the weather forecast for the future. You know, 716 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: the further we creep into December, usually the weather gets 717 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: a little bit better. Um, so hopefully they'll uh maybe 718 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 1: creeping in and out, you know, thirty minutes after daylight 719 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:48,439 Speaker 1: thirty minutes before y uh yeah, so that makes sense 720 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,279 Speaker 1: for late season pattern. Man, you just gotta try to 721 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 1: find a place where there on their feet in shooting light. Right. 722 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: It's kind of hard. So uh last question here. If 723 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: you had to rank buck movement for the next week 724 00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: on a scale of one to team, what would you 725 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: think the Bucks will be doing? I might have to 726 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 1: give it a six. Okay, all right, that's a pretty 727 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: positive number. I like it six absolute absolutely yeah cool man. Well, 728 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: thanks for doing this, dude. Good luck down there, and 729 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:18,799 Speaker 1: since for Florida that's a that's a unique place you 730 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: get to hunt, man, So I hope y'all can fight 731 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: them skeeters off and find a good big buck down 732 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 1: go black nights, right, I appreciate you. As you can see, 733 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: the winter can bring some success. December can be a 734 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: great month. So I would highly suggest getting out there 735 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,280 Speaker 1: and hunting a little bit. And I would also suggest, 736 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: like I mentioned earlier, um, if you don't really know 737 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: a lot about field dressing and or butchering your deer, 738 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: there are a couple of videos that we will link 739 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: to below that show you how Steve Mr Steve Ronella 740 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: shows you how to do that. And also if you 741 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: need a little encouragement as to why to see December 742 00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,920 Speaker 1: deer hunting can be amazing and you're missing out. If 743 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: you're not going, you should go check out Tony Peterson's 744 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,320 Speaker 1: at this article and then also check out the Element 745 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: podcast because you'll hear the story of how to public 746 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: land mature deer in Texas go down in one day 747 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: from the Element crew. It's gonna be an awesome podcast. 748 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 1: Then Boys is Fresh, y'all, remember to keep it fresh. 749 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: This has been rough. Fresh