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Speaker 1: your hosts, Mickey Spagnola and Bill Jones. It's a Wednesday

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Speaker 1: night at the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

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Speaker 1: And you know what that means. It's time for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys Legends Show. I am Bill Jones along with Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 1: As it is Giants Week here in North Texas. Giant

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Speaker 1: Squeak is a Giant week, right, Mican very Apropo will

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Speaker 1: have our guests. That's exactly right. Would you like to

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Speaker 1: go right into the guests? Why don't you do that?

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you've got this elaborate induction. We've got a

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Speaker 1: former cowboy in the house, a guy who back in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty one intercepted eleven passes in one season, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of Cowboy fans are hoping that number twenty

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Speaker 1: four can intercept eleven passes again this season because the

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Speaker 1: left quarterback for the Cowboys is wearing twenty four again.

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Speaker 1: The original number twenty four, Everson Walls, is in the house. However, Hey,

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Speaker 1: don't don't. Don't associate me with that giant stuff. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to shake that. I like the Ring, I

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Speaker 1: like that team, but you know you still have associating

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Speaker 1: me with Mickey did that. Yeah, I'm okay with it.

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Speaker 1: Part of history, right, we can't rewrite history. It is.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have you here on the Legend Show.

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Speaker 1: I saw you on Sunday night doing some postgame stuff

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Speaker 1: for Cowboys TV. Yeah, believe them. Now, I'm in the

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Speaker 1: our boy family. Man, Who the dunket? Who the Dunket?

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Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in the family. I'm having a good time.

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Speaker 1: He should have been doing this fifteen years ago. Well

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Speaker 1: he was doing on Facebook. That's a man on Facebook. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you've done You've done post game before. You were on

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Speaker 1: with Doc Boy. You were going way back, way back. Man,

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Speaker 1: Doucy had a good time back in the Uh, but

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Speaker 1: that was what was the training count back then. That

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Speaker 1: This was after Ted Dawson. It was bad. It was bad.

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Speaker 1: You know, Doucy had shots on that you know it

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Speaker 1: were like up to here cutting into his thighs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we all did. Yeah that those those those those

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Speaker 1: pale legs. I still can't get that out of my mind.

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Speaker 1: But the reason that Everson Walls is so good on

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Speaker 1: post game stuff is because you've always been candid. Okay,

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Speaker 1: even back in your playing days, you were always candid,

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Speaker 1: even when you came in the end of the league

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Speaker 1: as a twenty one one year old rookie out of Grambling.

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Speaker 1: That's gap. That's why this didn't happen fifteen years And

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Speaker 1: that's what Spags was talking about. I remember, I remember

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Speaker 1: Oh it's Tom Landry, it's tech Shram and interviewing this

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Speaker 1: sure he wants to do that? Criticizing who Tom I criticizing.

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Speaker 1: He probably did that too, but but I was like,

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Speaker 1: you can't. Are you gonna say that? You know, But

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Speaker 1: those those Cowboy teams back then, they were outspoken. At R.

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Speaker 1: Dorset was the same way started it. They started. I

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Speaker 1: just filled in. I did not start this. Uh. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think when I would talk to the media until

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Speaker 1: to this day, it's it's a mixture of you know,

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Speaker 1: knowing what I'm talking about, but also just being a fan.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was always a band of the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: so that the same stuff I said to you then,

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Speaker 1: I want Cowboys to win. They were always my team.

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Speaker 1: They just were always my team. I was that guy

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Speaker 1: Yeahs it was too tall. Dice was when he came.

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Speaker 1: from a media standpoint, it was I just loved it.

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Speaker 1: Back then. I was working in Lubbock, Texas, my first

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Speaker 1: And then here comes bags later like Okay, yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: little postgame analysis of what happened on Sunday in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: You know, the more I look at it, I think,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. And that is not what I wanted to see.

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Speaker 1: You're never gonna do better than what I see in you.

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Speaker 1: And that's I don't know where that went. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's like the coaches coach to the limitations, the players

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Speaker 1: talking to Michael Irvin and we were I asked him

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Speaker 1: not having kind of a lead dog there, and he said,

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Speaker 1: and then he gets on you about wearing a hat.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand, you know. I think the bottom

423
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Speaker 1: line was I don't know who did it, but somebody

424
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Speaker 1: did live interview before the game. That was Dale Hanson,

425
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Speaker 1: of course, getting everybody in trouble. I was not a

426
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Speaker 1: part of that because, first of all, I don't come

427
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,960
Speaker 1: to the game on time, so I came late. I

428
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 1: wasn't not a play of that. But they had a

429
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Speaker 1: good time. And I mean, come on, as Monday night football,

430
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Speaker 1: it was like it was sacrilegious. Football players can't talk

431
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Speaker 1: before the game, not with hats on there. Yeah, with

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Speaker 1: hats all right, I've got the answer on that. For

433
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Speaker 1: four fourteen season opener Monday night game against the Redskins

434
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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty five, how many picks did the Cowboys have?

435
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Speaker 1: What do you say? I sent five? It might have

436
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: been season. I thought seven, okay, right in between six? Six,

437
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: got Weisman five times. It's got Jay Schrader once. Trader.

438
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 1: Strader came in and got him once. So now now

439
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Speaker 1: I'll do some more research and figure out if Everson

440
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Speaker 1: had one. You know, I got him all right here,

441
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: I got him all right here. Okay, Yes, Everson had

442
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Speaker 1: an intersecone. Yes, I remember that. You think of of

443
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 1: course you did. That's not going to have a fine

444
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: interception man. Everson had eleven picks in nineteen eighty one,

445
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,359
Speaker 1: and then in a strike shortened season in nineteen eighty

446
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: two only a nine game regular season had seven more picks. Yeah.

447
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: So if my matthis right there, it's eighteen interceptions in

448
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,720
Speaker 1: your first twenty five games of your career, and you

449
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: ought a factor of the seven over sixteen games, that

450
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 1: probably gets you about twelve. That'd be fun, but it

451
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: would have been real fun. You think I could have

452
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Speaker 1: gotten paid sooner? No, No, same thing, same we know,

453
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,120
Speaker 1: we know, we know how that went, Yes, between Gill

454
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Speaker 1: and Tech. But you talk about famous qbs that I

455
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,160
Speaker 1: picked up. I always did pick Joe off, but Joe

456
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: was Joe always got your back. You're gonna get Joe,

457
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 1: but Joe's gonna get you back, And so he was

458
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 1: another one that I had some good numbers against it.

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00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 1: That's funny. I've never really wow, I've never really chronicled

460
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Speaker 1: how many I got off of who they never even

461
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: chronicled any DV. Probably an easy way to do it.

462
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 1: They should do that. I mean, that would be there.

463
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Speaker 1: It might be I might, Oh, we've got Danny. Is

464
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Speaker 1: Danny gonna do it? We're gonna get to Danny here

465
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Speaker 1: in just a second. We we got we had so

466
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Speaker 1: much fun talking to ever since that we forgot about.

467
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: We gotta take a break, try real show whatever we're

468
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Speaker 1: on the air. Yes, okay, we'll continue with Everson Walls

469
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Speaker 1: and just some moment we'll take some questions from here

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Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club. Probably promise it's a touchdown to

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Speaker 1: the SWBC mortgage dell us Cowboys Legends Show broadcasting live

472
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Speaker 1: from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco. Fans United,

473
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Speaker 1: where you can find game day gear for every Cowboys fan.

474
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Speaker 1: Visit shop fans United dot com to find a location

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Speaker 1: near you. Welcome back to the Cowboys Legend Show. We're

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Speaker 1: at the Cowboys Club here at the Star in Frisco,

477
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,199
Speaker 1: overlooking the practice field. Got a beautiful sunset behind us.

478
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Speaker 1: Look over your shoulder there, Mickey. And ever since finally

479
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: the sun came out today, it's been dreary here for

480
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 1: about ten days. Maybe that bodes well for Sunday night

481
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 1: against the New York Football Giants. Looks like we're on

482
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Speaker 1: the beach at Oxnard with the sun right, except there's

483
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Speaker 1: no beach sunset. That's exactly right, all right, duddy, We

484
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: got Danny Sirek here with the wireless microphone. I'm no,

485
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Speaker 1: we've got a question from the audience here at the

486
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Speaker 1: Cowboys Club, right, Danny. We sured you ever saying the

487
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: first question for you tonight comes from Drisco, from Frisco.

488
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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, back again, sorry, Hey, I know you went

489
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Speaker 1: to Burtner High School and I know you played just

490
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: your senior year, right, that's correct, So what what did

491
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: you do before that? Did you? Did you ever aspirations

492
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: be a running back or a receiver? Oh, no doubt.

493
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a receiver. Nobody really wants to

494
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: play defense if they if they have to. Everybody wants

495
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: to glory. My first time touching the ball at Burtner

496
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 1: my senior year, it wasn't on the interception. It was,

497
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, a little trash duty. Uh we a little

498
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: mop up duty. We were winning against Sunset and I

499
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: came in with the second string quarterback. I was a

500
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Speaker 1: second string wide receiver. Wait wait, wait, wait, this is

501
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Speaker 1: your senior year with the second string wide receiver. Okay, yeah, okay,

502
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: they they didn't think I can handle all their glory

503
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: at once. So the second team wide receiver, so Randy Wade,

504
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: he was the he was the assistant principle's son. And

505
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: then Brandon and I were pretty tight because of that.

506
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Speaker 1: So my first route was a flag route. Randy laid

507
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: that joker right in there, man, right in my right

508
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: front pocket. I brought it in touchdown. So I was.

509
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: I was pretty amazing. So yeah, as a as a

510
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Speaker 1: wide receiver, I paded myself after Drew Pierson of course.

511
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Speaker 1: So how how deep into the season was that that

512
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: you made that catch? That's the first game, first game,

513
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: and they didn't gave me the first team wide receiver. Now, man,

514
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,719
Speaker 1: it was Burgner. Man, this is Burgner. They can't they

515
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: can't have me out there. They can't have me out there.

516
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: Come on. Burgner was a new team. We were a

517
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Speaker 1: newly formed high school back then. They had to make

518
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Speaker 1: sure the fans came. Can I can I elaborate just

519
00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: saying it was pretty white? Is that what I have to?

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Speaker 1: You know, my mom didn't bake enough muff for the

521
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: Booster Clouds. It was Burtner's rival, piercer Or Lake Higlands

522
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: was actually Lake Hilands. Yes, we played them homecoming that year,

523
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: beat them twenty eight to nothing because we shared the stadium.

524
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Speaker 1: I thought Lake Higlands had a juggernaut back they thought

525
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, And so we always say, whoever wins

526
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: the game, that's whose name is comes first at the stadium.

527
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: So that year was Rams Wildcat Stadium instead of Wildcat Rams.

528
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: So what do you do for three years before he

529
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: played football. Basketball. I tried. Yeah, I played some basketball,

530
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: and then my junior year, I just had such a

531
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: hard time. You know, I didn't play any didn't do anything,

532
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: do anything. I had to get a job about baseball.

533
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 1: You'd be a great center field. I actually played. Well,

534
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: that's how I learned to catch. I was playing center

535
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: field when I was in Peabe League. Yes, okay, I

536
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: just couldn't hit. I couldn't. I could hit the fastball

537
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: with those curveballs. No, that ended a lot of our careers.

538
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 1: Supposed to throw. I don't they could throw curry balls.

539
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: Tony Burtner back the playoffs, No, we were. That was

540
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 1: our first and back then only one team from a

541
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: district made the playoffs, very like today when the four

542
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Speaker 1: teams in one district. Well, we didn't have a chance. Regardless.

543
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: We were the first year in four eight yea and

544
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: which was the largest classification, that's right, and that was

545
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: we went five four and one. We tied Plano that year.

546
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Speaker 1: Hunting back's name was Gaddis, who was like an amazing

547
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Speaker 1: running back, but he didn't have any help around him

548
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: that year, so we tied him six to six. I

549
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: think it was their homecoming. It was that was that

550
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: was that was a satisfy. It was seventy six. That

551
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: was nineteen seventy seven seven, So you only say six, Yeah,

552
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: because you graduated seventy same year graduate from mac arthur

553
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: and Irving. Yeah, that's right. Gosh, I was out of

554
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: college by then. How old out you spacks? Old enough

555
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: to know wh I was out of college? Because you

556
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: look young? Yeah, I need to look at you again.

557
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: So one year of football, that's why you ended up

558
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: walking on at Grambling. That's how it ended up getting

559
00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: that last scholarship at You got the scholarship, last scholarship,

560
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure somebody was there going to scholarship,

561
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: because there's no way hes supposed to have a scholarship

562
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: in the spring game. I supposed that a scholarship left

563
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 1: in the spring game. But somehow they found it and

564
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: I got it. I got it. Did you play basketball

565
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: against mister Peppermint's son? You remember that Jerry Haynes's son

566
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: played played for Lake Highlands? I think if and then

567
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 1: he became a what you he graduated that same year

568
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 1: Because I played against him, I did, I played against him.

569
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Speaker 1: This is a trip down memory y'all. Yeah, but Drew

570
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: Pearson was the guy that you that was my idol,

571
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: that was my idol overachiever type. So what was it

572
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: like then going up against Drew Pearson in practice for

573
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: the first time? Man? Drew was a jerk. Man, He

574
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: was a jerk. Drew didn't want any rookies trying to

575
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: cover him, like you you shouldn't even made my space.

576
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: That's kind of how man he was. He was. And

577
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: if you made the plane, no, he definitely didn't like it.

578
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: But uh, talking about a guy who's opinionated and and

579
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: still is no but but but hey, it set the tone.

580
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: He was the man. Yeah, he was the man. I

581
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: enjoyed being his teammate. I remember one game one practice,

582
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what was going on. We're supposed to

583
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: cover this particular route. He ran the same route every

584
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: time we had this particular coverage that we were trying

585
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: to work on. Standing inside. For some reason, I couldn't

586
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: stay inside. I broke my thumb trying to trying to

587
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: cover him on this particular route. It was the most

588
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: frustrating day I've ever had in my life trying to

589
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: guard Drew Pearson this one day in training cant so frustrating.

590
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: Gene Stars and I ended up cursing each other out

591
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: that practice. That's how frustrating that day was. So No,

592
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: I owe that to Drew and that that was a matchup, mickey,

593
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: of two guys who should be in the Hall of Fame.

594
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely so was it crushing? What? What was the feeling

595
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: like we did? I did all this research, I had

596
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: all these numbers to get you in, and no one

597
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: listened to me. Man, you guys, y'all stepped up. I

598
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: gotta say, everybody in Dallas stepped up. What I called

599
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: the Team Walls. Remember that, Yeah, everybody on Team Walls

600
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: stepped up. That was serious. How you guys did that?

601
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: And that's a hell. I gave you guys enough interviews.

602
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 1: I guess you guys old me, But no, I really

603
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: did appreciate that. And you know, I always I tell

604
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: the story. Man. It was just we didn't even get

605
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: a chance to open up the chips before they called

606
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: my room. You know, my family's in there. We bought

607
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff. We thought there was gonna be

608
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: a long day, you know. So that's how you find

609
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: out they call they call you, Man, my family was

610
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: in there. My sisters, my brother, just everybody. You know.

611
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: They had flown up, my wife, my daughter, friends, we

612
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: had friends there, we had you know. It was just crazy.

613
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: So just so everybody knows, when you make the finals,

614
00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 1: it's fifteen guys and then they start to cussing them,

615
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: and the first cut goes from fifteen to ten and

616
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: then ten to five and then it's in or out.

617
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: So and they tell you to be in your room

618
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: by three thirty. My phone rang at three thirty two,

619
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: and I almost missed it because I'm thinking I was

620
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: in there washing my hands. I said, you know what,

621
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: maybe I should turn my ringer on. As soon as

622
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: I turned on their call and we were like, we

623
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: were like the chips would you like just about to open? Like,

624
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 1: oh damn, So did you stay? At least I had

625
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: to go. Then they they rushed you off to be

626
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: on the NFL Honors Show, which is that night, right,

627
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: So my family, I can't remember if they stayed in

628
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: my room or not. I think they stayed in my

629
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: room for a while, because I mean, they just got there.

630
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: So they introduced everybody on the Honor Show, the final

631
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: fifteen or no, no, just certain guys. That's the guys

632
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: that made it. But you had to be there. You

633
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: had to be there. Yeah, so I had I had

634
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: great seats though. I had great seats right in the

635
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: middle of the stage, me and my daughter and my wife.

636
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: Great seats. So do what all your friends do? They

637
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: stayed in the room. They just I mean, you know,

638
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: you got chips, you got patron I mean, what you're

639
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: gonna do? Man com Commy had the thing ready to go,

640
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: the bar was ready. That was heartbreaking when I find

641
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 1: and it's a weird process. I must say, it is

642
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: a weird, weird process. And then they want you out

643
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: to have five minutes later. And you know, I'm like,

644
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 1: they said, can you be down there in five minutes?

645
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: I said, no, I can't. And I'm like, what you're

646
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: gonna do to me now, you know, not putting me on.

647
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: I think I think it's ridiculous that there is a

648
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: deadline on how long you can be eligible too, as

649
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: far as before you're looking at as a modern day.

650
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: They called you're too young, dude, an old time And

651
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: I told you what was gonna happen when I become

652
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: a senior. Now I gotta get behind all these dead people.

653
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: Now they they're bringing in people. Man, then I don't

654
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: know the guy this year excellent stats. I think Tommy Robinson. Yeah,

655
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: Tommy Robins. Yeah, he had grads fifty step and he

656
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: played offense. But dude, he was born in nineteen thirty nine.

657
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: You've been waiting on he's been around for a while.

658
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what I figured what happened, And

659
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: they have expanded it here lately where I think every

660
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: other year they'll put two senior guys. So last year

661
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: was it were the two guys because Kramer made Rode it. Man,

662
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 1: that was very cool. I must I didn't make it,

663
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: but to see him make it, Yeah, how does he

664
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: get overlooked? You know this? This is strange And now

665
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: you can't put that on media because I like to

666
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: say that you guys a bunch of crap. But anyway

667
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 1: it comes to Hall of Fame, I can't put that

668
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: on you guys. These are Hall of Fame fellow Hall

669
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: of Fame members who vote on you. At this from

670
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the seniors really okay, Yeah, he's a Hall of Fame guys.

671
00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: So why wouldn't they put Jerry in? Yeah? Why wouldn't

672
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: you put Drew in? Why wouldn't you put Harvey Martin in.

673
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying I had my list here, and

674
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: for career interceptions, it's Timmy on there, Tommy, Tommy Robinson. No,

675
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: you you ranked tied for thirteen with fifty seven. And

676
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: when I started counting up the guys ahead of you,

677
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: most of them were safeties. So it's Tommy. Cornerbacks, so

678
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: it's Tommy. Yeah. And a lot of them played way

679
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: before you came into the league, and so it's like, well,

680
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: what's wrong with cornerbacks? And we played that was a

681
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: run first. Quarterbacks weren't necessarily the best player or the

682
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: most important player on the team, right. That was when

683
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: there was dors Sets and the and the Riggins, you know,

684
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and the Sanders, all those guys, the Peytons, you know,

685
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: those are the guys they got the ball first most

686
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: of the time. If you passed first pass, first player

687
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: of the game back then, you were either like Dan

688
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: Marino or somebody. But otherwise we're running the ball. You

689
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: were San Diego, right, Eric, You're gonna be fouts exactly,

690
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna be fouts. And by the way, I believe

691
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: it's Johnny Hey. That's another one. I used to pick

692
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: off all the time. By the way, fouts famous damn fault. Well,

693
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: the percentages were with you, right, They threw the ball

694
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: so many times. And I believe it's Johnny Robinson, not

695
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: Tommy Johnny Robins Robbins, She's gotta be on the list.

696
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 1: He's not in that he is. Oh, he's tied with you.

697
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: That's what it is, all right. We continue with Everson

698
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,200
Speaker 1: Walls here on the Cowboys Legend Show and just a

699
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: Bollment team. We know what we gotta do. Get out

700
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: there and win. That's our goal, and you know how

701
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: we're going to reach that goal. Preparation to win, we

702
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: need to prepare. If we haven't prepared, then we better

703
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 1: be prepared to fail. Okay, sweetheart, let's take it down

704
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Speaker 1: a notch. All we need to do is call s

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Speaker 1: WBC at one eight six six get s WBC. They

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Speaker 1: can help us with everything we need, from choosing the

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Speaker 1: right insurance options to mortgages. You can retirement planning. That's

708
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Speaker 1: what I like to hear. We call one A six

709
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: six s WBC. Oh, honey, my mom has a permanently

710
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: stuck in the eighties thing. We're talking tea stuff feathered

711
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Speaker 1: hair Acid to the s WBC Mortgage Dallas Cowboys Legends Show,

712
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from the Cowboys Club at the Star in Frisco.

713
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: And welcome back to the Star in Frisco. Here at

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys Club the Legends Show, We've got about ten

715
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: minutes left with Everson Walls, Bill Jones with Mickey Spagnola

716
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: and Mickey in the next ten minutes will tell us

717
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: who next week's guest will be, right man, Yeah, I'm

718
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: gonna work on it right now. Okay, And Danny Sirek

719
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: has the wireless microphone. Let's go straight to Danny here.

720
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: Hello Danny, Hi, guys, I'm here with Keller from Dallas,

721
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: and he's got our next question. Hey guys, Hey Everson,

722
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 1: how are you doing? What's going on? Man? I want

723
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: these guys to realize how talented you really were. You

724
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: know racketball? You and Rofiel Septon. Did you ever beat him?

725
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: By the way? I never could not. He was incredible.

726
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: But if I like the sport, I would have beaten him.

727
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: But I didn't. Never were Well, you kick my butt

728
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: several times. I remember that. But guys, I want I

729
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,399
Speaker 1: might ask Mickey and then first and then I want

730
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 1: to come back to you on this question that they

731
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: know it. This guy is so talented. Do you remember

732
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: what song he would sing so well too? Do you

733
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: remember got me on that one? I don't even remember.

734
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: I bet you will remember. It was a Christmas song.

735
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: It was you got It Bill, Twelve Days of Christmas.

736
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: I was six in inceptions. Yeah, six inceptions. So what

737
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: was it like with Tom Landry, Because you know, everybody

738
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: always thinks he's so quiet that that was such a

739
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 1: big production. I would tell you, I gotta tell you

740
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: that was That was one of the more fun things

741
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,479
Speaker 1: we ever ever did. Tom had a great time. Each

742
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: time he would say a new hat for Coach Landry,

743
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: they put a different hat on him. So we had

744
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 1: twelve different hats for and for him to participate in it. Man,

745
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 1: everybody had a good time. You know, it's out there

746
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: on the internet and when you look at it as

747
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 1: fun too. It was as fun to make it as

748
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: it is fun to look at now as you go

749
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: back and see guys Man Bill Bays, Mike Renfro, Danny

750
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: White do set singing this butt off. It was crazy, man,

751
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. So this was your version

752
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl shuffle with the Bears. Put right here,

753
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 1: I got it called up on YouTube. Right here. You

754
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: can take a look. There's Danny White. Is that mean

755
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: that I'm right behind Danny? Yeah. Yeah. That looked like

756
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: look at Tom. Tom looks like a pimp with that

757
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: had Jeff Jeff, Yeah, this is great. Tom of Richards. Yeah,

758
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: let's look at them. And they had Tom with with

759
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: a different type hat on each time they came back around. Yeah,

760
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: that's fun. That's stuff. That was great. And it was

761
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: about the time of the Super It was just before

762
00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl Shuffle. They put out a whole album.

763
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: It was after the Super Bowl shoft It wasn't I

764
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 1: think we did that in eighty six, okay and every

765
00:41:53,960 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 1: Super suff I think that was eighty six. Yeah. U

766
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: that was good stuff, man. And of course Danny White

767
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: had his own solo and oh he did. Look at me, man,

768
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: I look like I know how to sing Dexter Clink

769
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: scale Fellow five super Bowl. He turned that around to her,

770
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: but he could see what playing for you. There you go,

771
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: you can see looking stuff man. All right? That was fun.

772
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: All right? So, uh you got a place you want

773
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: to go with this, Mickey? Well, uh, ever, since been

774
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: involved in a lot of things, and we talked about

775
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: the catch and unfortunately, he or I should say fortunately

776
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: made friends with Dwight Clark as the years went on

777
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: after that game and passed away this year. Yes, he

778
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: did this sad thing. You know, I was with him.

779
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 1: The last time I saw him was at the h

780
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: at the game in San Francisco Tober when the Cowboys played.

781
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: The Cowboys played. They invited me, and uh, you know

782
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: it was you know, very touching. Uh, you know, it

783
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 1: was tough to see, tough to to deal with. We

784
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: had just found I had just seen him the year

785
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: before that and he was fine. You know, he's he's

786
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: a tall, good looking guy. You know, everybody loved him

787
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: and nice guy and all of that. And you know,

788
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: shaking his hand and that following September, which I think

789
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: is when we played them, Uh, he couldn't even shake

790
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: my hand. He couldn't. He couldn't. Yeah, ended up getting

791
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: Luke Arrant's disease. And he went fast. It went fast,

792
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: and you know that was kind of sad to see

793
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: his His his family was there, everybody was there. And

794
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: when he gave the speech at halftime, you know, we

795
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: were all up there kind of uh in the background there,

796
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: but uh yeah, it was really nice being a part

797
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 1: of that whole whole thing. The forty nine is always

798
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: treated me well. Uh and and I think the problem

799
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 1: you have is is dealing with you know, the family,

800
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, they asked me if

801
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: I could come to the service, and I didn't. I didn't,

802
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I didn't go, but you know I gave him my

803
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, my blessing. And on a higher note, I

804
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: think you should tell the story of how you guys

805
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: connected after the catch. And he had a lot to

806
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 1: do with it. He did, he did. It was all

807
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: about the Kodak thing. We met at a at a

808
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: banquet where the leaders of the league in a particular

809
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: stat got awards. He was receiving, I was interceptions. I

810
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: believe it was around nineteen eighty five. I think it

811
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: was after eighty five season. That was my last time

812
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: leading the league. I was with my wife and my mom.

813
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: He came up to us and didn't even speak before

814
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: he asked me if I got my Kodak money. Get

815
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 1: my Kodak money. Of course, when I know Kodak, because

816
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: I had been watching the fucking slow mold Barbara streissying.

817
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 1: So I knew exactly what he's talking about. And we

818
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: had never met before, and that was his first time

819
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:47,919
Speaker 1: meeting me. And he said, hey, man, go get your money.

820
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: He said they gave Joe money because I said Joe

821
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: threw the pass. He said, they wrote in a check

822
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: right there. And so I got my attorney and said, hey,

823
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: where's my money. They said, we don't owe you any money,

824
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: and so my attorney that's all he wanted to hear.

825
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: I ended up being friends with the White after that.

826
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: But it was a blessing because I was that my

827
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: one of my winnings was going to the super Bowl.

828
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I was called the Settlement, and that super Bowl was

829
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 1: the one that Doug Williams uh when he set the reck.

830
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Of of course, Doug and I were with teammates seventy seven, yes,

831
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: at Grambling, and so Whateverson's referring to is the picture

832
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: of the catch. I'm sure they know, man, who Danny,

833
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,320
Speaker 1: get your hand up, and yeah, who doesn't know what

834
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: he's talking about. He was underneath talking. Look look at them,

835
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: look at the picture everywhere. Come on our guys, right right,

836
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: people on radio can see that picture, Danny do you

837
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: got a question, I do. This question will come from

838
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: Melvine from Carrollton. Actually, what you actually, Everson? I'm originally

839
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: from Kenya, nice and as a Cowboys fan from Rome

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Speaker 1: when I was about sixty years old. Yeah, you're still

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Speaker 1: a him? And what do you say? You're still look yeam?

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I feel because I'm sitting there very good.

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Speaker 1: So I'll start off it. What did it feel like

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Speaker 1: scoring just one touchdown in the in the NFL? Because

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Speaker 1: for some reason I always had you as a wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. The main joke on me is

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Speaker 1: you got fifty seven interceptions and only one touchdown. So

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Speaker 1: that's always been my peers and they joke with me

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Speaker 1: about that all the time. So it's good of you

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Speaker 1: to bring that up. I appreciate that. So let's talk

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Speaker 1: about that touchdown. Actually, I wasn't even a Cowboy when

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Speaker 1: I got it. I was with the Giants, played against

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Speaker 1: the Redskins, of course, and that was our Super Bowl year.

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Speaker 1: Art Mark tried to run that little zig zag route.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to read. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: they have such a problem with it, but I just

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Speaker 1: cut underneath them. I think it's like twenty eight yards.

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Speaker 1: I even got teased on that because I looked so

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Speaker 1: funny when I was running the touchdown. I looked like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I'm about to score. I almost stopped. It looked like

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Speaker 1: I was about to stop and like I'm about to score.

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Speaker 1: You know, come catch me. But that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: it was my boys, and with the Giants, they they

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Speaker 1: didn't let me forget that. Well, if he don't want

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Speaker 1: to bring it up, I'll bring it up. He also

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Speaker 1: had another sight cover after he won his Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: with the Giants. Finally, Yeah, Giants, super Bowl. I'm on

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Speaker 1: their Bravo, you know, on spread wide opening, which is

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Speaker 1: you know, pretty much the only picture I have in

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Speaker 1: my house. And it's a good one, that's all I got.

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Speaker 1: It's different sizes though, and in our last forty seconds.

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Speaker 1: Here a prediction for Sunday night when your team, the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: go up against the team he also played for that

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Speaker 1: got the two opens right. I think Carolina was a

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Speaker 1: tough test. As much as we criticize tough test for them,

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be better off for it when

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Speaker 1: they play at home against a team that you know

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Speaker 1: they should they should be and a team that struggled

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Speaker 1: offensively in their opener too. By the way, yes, how

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Speaker 1: about the Cowboys win it on a pick six by

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Speaker 1: number Pillison Walls. Thanks Everson, and we'll see you again

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Speaker 1: next week here on The Cowboys Legend Show.