WEBVTT - Chris Sale and Braves Secure Series Win over Padres

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome on and all into the Here a Territory podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Sean Coleman. Hope wherever you are and

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<v Speaker 1>wherever you are listening, I hope that you are having

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<v Speaker 1>a good week so far. Your friends, your family, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>that she knows doing well. And the Braves, the Braves,

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<v Speaker 1>the team that we all love, they are doing well

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<v Speaker 1>after a month plus, you know, pretty disappointing into the

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<v Speaker 1>first half of the year, raising Narrol five and too

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<v Speaker 1>two to three or four away from the Padres in

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<v Speaker 1>a big home series, so you couldn't ask for a

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<v Speaker 1>much better start. But we're gonna talk to Padres. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk Chris Selle in a bit of the bullpen

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<v Speaker 1>as we mix it Up, engineered by Fastena was of

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<v Speaker 1>mixing it up. The Braves decided to do that when

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<v Speaker 1>it came to actually winning a series against the Padres.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the best when it comes to breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down the Braves, my podny has partner Stephen Tolbert. He'll

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<v Speaker 1>be the first to tell you that, ind of itself,

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<v Speaker 1>is no small feat being able to win a series

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<v Speaker 1>from the Padres. But Stephen would also stood out is

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<v Speaker 1>that the wins, they're nice to get. You'll take them

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<v Speaker 1>all day long, but they decided to do them in

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<v Speaker 1>some pretty exciting fashion, even when they didn't need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what's up, buddy. Yeah, I don't know what it

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<v Speaker 2>is about the Padres the Braves. Just every game is

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<v Speaker 2>just a it is a dogfight to win, and getting

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<v Speaker 2>wins at any level against the Padres have just been

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<v Speaker 2>impossible for the Braves the last few years. So winning

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<v Speaker 2>three out of four, however they came, is we'll take it, right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you did it take years off my life? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>it did watching this four game series. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>three of the Braves, all three of the Braves wins

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<v Speaker 2>turned out to be one run victories, even though they

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<v Speaker 2>had leads multiple times. You know, last night's game they

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<v Speaker 2>had a seven to one lead in the ninth and

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<v Speaker 2>it became a one run victory. Today they had a

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<v Speaker 2>six to three lead in the eighth and it became

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<v Speaker 2>a one run victory. It's just it was a roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 2>And but we'll take it to w is a w though,

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<v Speaker 2>you know there's no it's just the standings. Just say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to lost, so you take it anyway

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<v Speaker 2>you can get it. We're gonna talk about the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, obviously Chris Sale, big, big day for Chris Sale.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, any win you can get is especially against

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<v Speaker 2>the Padres. We'll just we'll take it and run.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Chris Sale himself, he had pretty good stuff today,

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<v Speaker 1>especially towards of the outing. He looked good today. He

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<v Speaker 1>did have that hiccup. I believe it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>second inning. Yeah, the second inning. Mauricio Dubon, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't do him any favors were Debon has uncharacteristically been

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an adventure out there in the outfield

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<v Speaker 1>here recently. But s I'll think about three runs. But

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<v Speaker 1>he really really got back to being himself towards the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the outing, and most import he gave it.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave the bullpen a bit of a risk with

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<v Speaker 1>six innings pitch, something that the brains need as much

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<v Speaker 1>of as possible when it comes to their starting rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>So overall, pretty good adding from Chris Sale and the

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<v Speaker 1>brain is giving him some run support. Was nice to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the second Sale was dominant today. I think at

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<v Speaker 2>eleven strikeouts and six innings. The only hiccup was the

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<v Speaker 2>second inning. It was a weird inning, some soft contact

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<v Speaker 2>obviously the ball to the bond and I think he

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the clouds. I don't think it was the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was kind of an overcast day. I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what happened. Uh maybe he just got a bad jump

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<v Speaker 2>on it. I don't know. And then you know, there

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<v Speaker 2>was an O two pitch ton I can't remember who

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<v Speaker 2>was it hit the two runs single, but it was yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it was an No two pitch like in the dirt,

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<v Speaker 2>and he just flailed at it and somehow it found grass.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look up and it's like three nothing. Padres

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<v Speaker 2>in the second year're like, oh God. And then Sales

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<v Speaker 2>at like sixty pitches through three innings, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was thinking, oh my god, if the bullpen has

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<v Speaker 2>to cover four or five innings of a Chris Sale start,

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<v Speaker 2>they're in trouble because, like they need Sale to go

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<v Speaker 2>deep every time at this point, the way the way

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the rotation is set up, they need

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<v Speaker 2>Sale to at least get to six innings every time.

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<v Speaker 2>And credit to Chris Man. He really, I mean from

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<v Speaker 2>that moment on, after that second inning, he pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>dominated the Padres. I mean they didn't have a chance

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<v Speaker 2>in hell. The if you were watching the game, the

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<v Speaker 2>broadcast was like predicting how the guy at the plate

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<v Speaker 2>was gonna strike out, because like every bad ended in

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<v Speaker 2>a strikeout. He was still in ninety eight, ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 2>he had the nasty slider. He was just unbelievable today.

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<v Speaker 2>And to get through six innings. I have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who was available out of the pen today, but I

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<v Speaker 2>guarantee it wasn't a lot of guys. Get through six

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<v Speaker 2>innings is a massive deal because they were able to

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<v Speaker 2>go to Dodd Kenley, who we're gonna talk about, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Glacier's closed it down and thank god the offense

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<v Speaker 2>kept adding on. But yeah, that was a big start

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<v Speaker 2>from Sale, just to get through six the way it started,

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<v Speaker 2>the way it looked early, you know, to dominate the

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<v Speaker 2>way he did and get you know, six innings on

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<v Speaker 2>the board for the Braves, which doesn't happen very often

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<v Speaker 2>anymore unless it's Sale, that was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know, yes, the Braid has got the

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<v Speaker 1>win and they were able to get the job done.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, the bullpen, you know, even even hy

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<v Speaker 1>sell Iglesias, you know you had earlier this week, you

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<v Speaker 1>had I think it was over the weekend. It just

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<v Speaker 1>Dylan lead had that you know, hiccup as well. The

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen seems to be I'm not Tyler Kinley obviously has

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<v Speaker 1>regressed quite a bit, but everybody just seems shaky right now.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not that same I know, the Braves are fifty

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<v Speaker 1>one and one, I think is the record when they're

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<v Speaker 1>leading after eighty inch, which is great. You want that

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<v Speaker 1>type of record, you know when it comes to you

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<v Speaker 1>being a contender. But the bullpen is a bit shaky

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<v Speaker 1>right now. It could be that they're being used quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit, but they just don't seem to have to

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<v Speaker 1>say it had the same level of reliability that they

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<v Speaker 1>did even when we were struggling in the first half

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<v Speaker 1>for much of June.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you just go Guy by Guy Madaris, you

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<v Speaker 2>know our guy from last week. It's funny we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about on the show how he's a reliever and all

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<v Speaker 2>this could go away, you know, next time he's out,

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<v Speaker 2>And then the next time he went out, he he

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<v Speaker 2>blew up based. I mean, he came in the game

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<v Speaker 2>with a seven to one lead and and Iglesias had

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<v Speaker 2>to finish the game up. That's how poorly he pitched.

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<v Speaker 2>Tyler Kinley is is on the struggle bus right now.

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<v Speaker 2>He is hanging sliders at a terrifying rate, and every

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<v Speaker 2>time he hangs one, it seems like it's a two

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<v Speaker 2>run homer. Like Scott said this on Twitter today, Like

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<v Speaker 2>the way Kiley's pitching, he's much closer to being DFA

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<v Speaker 2>than he is being a high leverage reliever in the

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<v Speaker 2>Braves bullpen. You know, I don't know if they'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to that point, but like he he's not looked good,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm very cess see how they hand it.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they you know, give him a kind of a phantom.

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<v Speaker 2>I l trip to see if he can get some rest.

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<v Speaker 2>Kinley was used a ton in the first half. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll see if that has anything to do with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Glecias has been a little shaky, Like the ninth inning

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<v Speaker 2>today wasn't clean. The ninth inning last night, I think

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<v Speaker 2>he gave up the two run homer. Like, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's definitely been a little more rocky than we're

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<v Speaker 2>used to seeing. Some of that is just natural regression.

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<v Speaker 2>The Brais bullpen was so unbelievably good the first three

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<v Speaker 2>months of the season that some of this was probably

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<v Speaker 2>gonna come at some point. You know, they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>Suarez Fuentes. You know, has looked good, but he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>been pitching with the fastball in the zone a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and he got burned with it the other night, giving

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<v Speaker 2>up the home run to tie the game to Jackson Merrill.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, just as a whole, everybody's probably a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of ticks off. Some of it is usage, some of

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<v Speaker 2>it as the starters are having a real hard time

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<v Speaker 2>getting more than five innings in a game, sometimes not

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<v Speaker 2>even that. It would be a lovely time for Alex

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<v Speaker 2>to maybe go at a starter here pretty soon, to

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<v Speaker 2>maybe try to get a few more innings out of

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<v Speaker 2>the rotation and give the bull and some rest. I

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<v Speaker 2>am a little worried about the that's why Sale getting

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<v Speaker 2>to six innings with such a big deal today, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little I am a little worried about the trend

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<v Speaker 2>lately of how many starts the Braves starters are only

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<v Speaker 2>going four or five innings.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's typically there is a pretty consistent correlation with

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<v Speaker 1>the teams that not only make the playoffs but also

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<v Speaker 1>you know, surviving the playoffs. You know what, it simply

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to is they typically have the best starters

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<v Speaker 1>on their team, but also they had the less use,

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<v Speaker 1>the least use bullpens and those bull and then that

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<v Speaker 1>helps their believers stay fresh, those higher leverage relievers especially

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<v Speaker 1>stay fresh for October. I agree with you, you definitely

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to overuse, and the Braves tried so hard

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<v Speaker 1>to do that in the first part of the season,

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<v Speaker 1>but now they just don't have the same length out

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<v Speaker 1>of their starters. You need to make sure that bullpen's

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<v Speaker 1>not overused for when it matters most, during the home stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>a tough month of September, as well as the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>But what this also means is that there's even more

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<v Speaker 1>So Stephen, there were There was a bit of buzz

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this week about the Gwinnette Stripper's lineup. Just how

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<v Speaker 1>much talent overall major League production it had in its lineup.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Ronald o'cunya Junior, Hasan Kim, Carlos Santana, Andrew McCutcheon.

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<v Speaker 1>It was pretty fun to see. But that was a

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<v Speaker 1>reminder of the fact that the Braves have some obvious

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<v Speaker 1>reinforcements that are going to be coming, you know, in

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<v Speaker 1>the near future. And then so maybe not so obvious ones.

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<v Speaker 1>But the news of the day is that Walt Weiss

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<v Speaker 1>commented on the fact ronald'cone junr. Has continued to look

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<v Speaker 1>impressive in Gwinette. He would be he's likely going to

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<v Speaker 1>be back at some point this weekend. Don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be tomorrow, but probably we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>at some point this weekend. And then the name we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even mention who's going to be starting to reab

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<v Speaker 1>assignment is going to be Sean Murphy. Now it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be willing to August before he's back, but Ronald

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<v Speaker 1>acuney Junior hasan Kim Sean Murphy. Let's kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>down that list real quickly. With Ronald 'cuonney Junior, you

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<v Speaker 1>obviously know that he's going to step right back into

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<v Speaker 1>the lineup. But I want to get your quick take.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does he hit in the lineup? Is it a

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<v Speaker 1>foregone conclusion that he should stay at the top of

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<v Speaker 1>the order.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's something I've been thinking about. Actually, a

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<v Speaker 2>conversation with somebody on Twitter about this yesterday or the

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<v Speaker 2>day before. I can't remember. About the way the Braids

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<v Speaker 2>are set up right now. They're three best hitters are Baldwin, Lacunya,

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<v Speaker 2>Olsen obviously two lefties and one righty. Baldwin has been

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<v Speaker 2>leading off a lot. Baldwin is actually a tremendous lead

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<v Speaker 2>off hitter because he walks a lot. He's got like

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<v Speaker 2>a three seventy or three to eighty on base percentage.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually a very good lead off hitter. And if it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't be more, if it wouldn't be a better set

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<v Speaker 2>up to let Baldwin lead off and have a Kunya

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<v Speaker 2>bat second, what's kind of the conversation we were having

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<v Speaker 2>And I listen and Brad said this on their show

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<v Speaker 2>last night, and I agree, it's probably not the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>deal either way. Lineup construction is probably a little overrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Not probably, it's definitely overrated in terms of a conversation topic.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, because the Braves kind of three best

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<v Speaker 2>hitters this year have been Baldwin Olsen and Michael Harris,

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<v Speaker 2>who are all three left handed hitters. Yeah, does it

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<v Speaker 2>make sense to have your best right handed hitter lead

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<v Speaker 2>off when you could maybe split some of those guys up.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was the conversation, and I've all, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>some of it is gonna be like, are they gonna

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<v Speaker 2>let Ronnie run? Are they gonna put a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a halt to that kind of stuff? If they really

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<v Speaker 2>don't want him run in much, then that would almost

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<v Speaker 2>make me want to put him second even more. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I could be talked probably either way. But what I

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<v Speaker 2>have been thinking because the Braves, you know, best three

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<v Speaker 2>hitters basically this year besides Acunya, have been left handed

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<v Speaker 2>and we're still waiting on Riley and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>right handed guys just haven't had the same type of years,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Obviously we thought Sean Murphy and Hassan Kim

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<v Speaker 2>would help help out with a bunch on that side.

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<v Speaker 2>Ozzie's having an okay year. It's kind of up and

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<v Speaker 2>down these days. He did Homer again today. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I have been wondering if batting Acunya second might make

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<v Speaker 2>more sense just to split up the Baldwin, Olsen Harris

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<v Speaker 2>trio a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd put out there that I would. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that about Mattie, not Albi's fourth, you know, just also

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<v Speaker 1>split up. You know, if you batted Acuna first, could

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<v Speaker 1>you for bat all He's fourth. I'm the more I

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, I'm in agreement with you. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that the top four of your lineup have to be Baldwin, Acunya, Olson,

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<v Speaker 1>and Harris. It probably makes the most sense to go

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<v Speaker 1>with it in that order. But the big thing for

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<v Speaker 1>me is just having those four up there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that if you do, that's more important than kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the order that they're in. So probably not that

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<v Speaker 1>big video. I don't think that you're losing that much

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<v Speaker 1>at all if you bat bald would know, Olson and

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<v Speaker 1>Harris back to back to bat because all three have

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<v Speaker 1>been really productive against left handers as well this year.

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<v Speaker 1>But I get in the you know, general scheme of things,

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<v Speaker 1>is probably best not to bat all three in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>But it will certainly be interesting to see.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'll say this, if they add one more right

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<v Speaker 2>handed bat that would help. I agreed, like they they

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<v Speaker 2>are getting kind of left handed right now, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in some ways they can add any sort of bat

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<v Speaker 2>and it would help. But I like a right handed

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<v Speaker 2>bat that can sit in the middle of the older somewhere,

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<v Speaker 2>not be like your main guy, but can bat like

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<v Speaker 2>fifth or something like that. Obviously, we were hoping that

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<v Speaker 2>would be Austin Riley. We thought maybe it was happening,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he's had a couple of rough days in

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<v Speaker 2>a row. We'll see what happens. But yeah, I would

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<v Speaker 2>I would at least have a conversation about batting Acuna

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<v Speaker 2>second when he gets back, which is probably gonna happen

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<v Speaker 2>either tomorrow or or Saturday.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, So I know that many he may not think

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<v Speaker 1>that this is worthy of a conversation, but I certainly

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<v Speaker 1>think that it is. Hassan Kim has looked pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>in his bats down at Gwinnette, and I know that

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<v Speaker 1>he was a lost cause when he was up here.

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Jarvis, I know that, you know, many have looked

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<v Speaker 1>at him kind of as a revelation at the shortstop position.

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<v Speaker 1>He's done well. I think his defense has been better

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<v Speaker 1>than advertised, and he's swung a pretty good bat. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also do not feel as if I am being

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<v Speaker 1>far fetched and saying that the best version of the

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<v Speaker 1>Brave shortstop position would be Hasng Kim regaining his form

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<v Speaker 1>offensively and then having Jarvis be the guy who comes

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<v Speaker 1>in and replaces him defensively, you know, in lad in games.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that it's just an automatic you

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<v Speaker 1>let Jim Jarvis continue to start and just put Hassan

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<v Speaker 1>Kim on the bench. When he's back in a week

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<v Speaker 1>or so, you probably let him, you know, play out

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<v Speaker 1>his reb assignment as long as he can. But if

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<v Speaker 1>Hassan Kim is hitting, I give him a shot again

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<v Speaker 1>to claim that shortstop position and then from there he

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<v Speaker 1>used Jarvis's defense to to to secure wins at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of game. But if the Braves also just want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep letting Jarvis go, I don't blame him but

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<v Speaker 1>there but I do think that if you feel Hassam

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<v Speaker 1>Kim has kind of figured out his hitting form, you

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<v Speaker 1>want that in your lineup even more than what Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Jarvis is providing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting because obviously Acuny is coming back, and

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<v Speaker 2>all the reports have been that he's not gonna DH

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna play right field, which means Dubon is now

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<v Speaker 2>moving back to the infield because the Bond's been playing

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<v Speaker 2>at corner outfits about this whole time with a Kunya

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<v Speaker 2>been out. So now you have this interesting conversation at

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<v Speaker 2>shortstop because Dubon is probably the best defender of the three.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think probably, I think it's clearly the best

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<v Speaker 2>defender of the three. Jarvis has been better than I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he would be. But Dubon ranks as like one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best defensive short stops in baseball. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think easily Kim is the worst defender of the three.

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<v Speaker 2>So what do you do. Jarvis has been hot obviously

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<v Speaker 2>since he came up. You know, I'll say this about

0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:01.320
<v Speaker 2>Jarvis and like a guy like Brewer Ricklin who obviously

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<v Speaker 2>have been red hot since they came up. Those guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a it's a little bit like Matteo

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<v Speaker 2>and Dom Smith early, like you just have to keep

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<v Speaker 2>in perspective that it's a lot of it is probably

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of noise that's not real true signal.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think, I don't think Jim Jarvis is

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<v Speaker 2>actually this good. I mean, he's running like a three

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<v Speaker 2>eighty babbit right now. His expected numbers are way lower

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<v Speaker 2>than his actual numbers. I would just caution I see

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of people like, oh, we found our short

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<v Speaker 2>stuff of the future. I would just you know, remember

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<v Speaker 2>Jorge Matteo, remember the lessons we learned with Hoye Mitteo

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<v Speaker 2>and Dom Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you see.

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball as unique in that it you can have, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a month, six weeks of stuff like this

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<v Speaker 2>where just kind of randomly pops up. And I think

0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Jarvis can be a really good player. But like if

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<v Speaker 2>starting tomorrow, when Akunya comes back, if they decide they

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<v Speaker 2>want to bond at shortstop, I'm fine with that. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's the better defender. I think he I

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<v Speaker 2>actually trust the Bond's offense a little more than Jarvis. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're looking at true talent level. Now, obviously Jarvis

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<v Speaker 2>has been red hot, And if wat wants to stay

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<v Speaker 2>with Jarvis until he's not red hot, that's fine. There's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing wrong with riding a hot hand. It doesn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to be real long term for it to still help you.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, if we get the lineup tomorrow and Acuna

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<v Speaker 2>is in the right field and the Bond's at shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be like, I can't believe what Walt's doing. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>Debon had a pretty good series against the Padres too,

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<v Speaker 2>actually so, and I agree, he's been kind of weirdly

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<v Speaker 2>bad and left field lately. I don't know what's going

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<v Speaker 2>on with the Bond. He's probably just ready to be

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<v Speaker 2>back on the infield. But he's an unbelievably good defensive shortstop,

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<v Speaker 2>so I am. And then you have Kim and all

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<v Speaker 2>of this. I don't know what they're gonna I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you could tell me they're gonna dfa him, you could

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<v Speaker 2>tell me they're gonna play him and anything in between,

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<v Speaker 2>and I would believe it because I think it's all possible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now to your point, Dbon also certainly factors into this,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think at the end of the day, the

0:19:05.280 --> 0:19:07.960
<v Speaker 1>most trustworthy combination of defense as well as the offense

0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:09.879
<v Speaker 1>that he's shown. You want to go out and get

0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:12.359
<v Speaker 1>another bat that can you know, play outfield, also can

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<v Speaker 1>DH in some days, and I think has good power potential.

0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:17.239
<v Speaker 1>That's the type of profile that you want and that

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<v Speaker 1>puts to Bond as your shortstop. So that's one thing

0:19:20.160 --> 0:19:21.760
<v Speaker 1>that that's makes a point that I think that we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get. It's great that Jim Jarvis has provided

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<v Speaker 1>the production that he has, you know, over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few weeks. But I think in terms of the home

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<v Speaker 1>stretch and in terms of when games matter most in

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<v Speaker 1>the playoffs, the most trustworthy option remains Dubond at shortstop

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully some type of overall upgrade that can play

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<v Speaker 1>the outfield d H and so on and so forth.

0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:43.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, in a former right handed bat. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what you're hoping is the best case scenario for

0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.159
<v Speaker 1>the Braves. And then of course Sean Murphy is starting

0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.159
<v Speaker 1>to rehab assignment and you know some may have you know,

0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:52.280
<v Speaker 1>kind of written Sean Murphy off, like you know what

0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:56.400
<v Speaker 1>others have Hassan Kim with Kim, I know, don't blame him.

0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 1>He's definitely, you know, not perform well Murphy. It's been

0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:02.399
<v Speaker 1>a while, so team has been reliable offensively, but Murphy

0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.920
<v Speaker 1>still has a place on this team. And even when

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<v Speaker 1>again it's gonna matter most, you know, down the home

0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:10.440
<v Speaker 1>stretch and you know, into the playoffs, and it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a unique reason or or not spoken about that

0:20:13.840 --> 0:20:16.080
<v Speaker 1>much reason that. I believe you. You brought up earlier

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<v Speaker 1>today when it came to Drake Baldwin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know that Drake has had the best

0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:25.400
<v Speaker 2>year defensively, I know it's called stealing. Numbers are way down.

0:20:25.800 --> 0:20:31.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, his framing is about average. You know, how

0:20:31.600 --> 0:20:34.159
<v Speaker 2>he calls a game is something the public doesn't really know.

0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 2>That's really internal, Like you'd have to ask the pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>All the pitchers seem to like throw into him. But

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<v Speaker 2>I am curious, like in the postseason if they would

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<v Speaker 2>rather have Murphy catching and Baldwin dhing. Maybe I'm not

0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 2>saying Baldwin's a bad defensive catcher, but I just I

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.200
<v Speaker 2>don't think he's had like an elite defensive catcher year.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, you know, Murphy coming back is gonna be

0:20:55.200 --> 0:20:57.600
<v Speaker 2>very interesting. First of all, Murphy's gonna stay healthy. He

0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.440
<v Speaker 2>does stay healthy, None of those matters because he hasn't

0:20:59.400 --> 0:21:02.760
<v Speaker 2>stayed healthy and a long time. And then can he

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<v Speaker 2>hit at all? Especially against left handed pitching. We talked

0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.160
<v Speaker 2>about how left handed the lineup has been. They need

0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:13.679
<v Speaker 2>some of their righty's to like like contribute at some point,

0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.240
<v Speaker 2>like Murphy and Kim were supposed to be two of

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<v Speaker 2>the guys that were supposed to help against left handed

0:21:16.960 --> 0:21:18.800
<v Speaker 2>pitching the most. It was supposed to be like a

0:21:18.920 --> 0:21:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Kunya Riley, Murphy, Kim Ozzy. You know, those were the

0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.080
<v Speaker 2>guys who were supposed to balance out the lineup. And

0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, Ozzie's had a solid year and then everybody

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:29.920
<v Speaker 2>else has either been hurt or not that great. Uh

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:33.479
<v Speaker 2>de Bond's been solid, of course, but yeah, we need

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Murphy to hit, and we need Murphy to really hold

0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:38.159
<v Speaker 2>his own against lefties. I'm very curious to how this

0:21:38.240 --> 0:21:41.680
<v Speaker 2>rehab assignment goes. You know, with catching, obviously there's a

0:21:41.720 --> 0:21:45.200
<v Speaker 2>whole physical element to getting down and catching nine innings,

0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:46.960
<v Speaker 2>and like it's not just the bat like it is

0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.879
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of position players. Like how you actually

0:21:49.920 --> 0:21:52.199
<v Speaker 2>call a game and catch a game for nine innings matters,

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<v Speaker 2>and these rehabs, so it could be a longer thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, We'll see. Yeah, Murphy is an interesting guy,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously the Braves all a lot of money, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>even past this year, so that is a big one.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's gone under the radar a bit and people

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<v Speaker 2>haven't thought about it a lot, but it would be very,

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<v Speaker 2>very very helpful for Sean Murphy to get healthy and

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<v Speaker 2>play to at least somewhere towards the level of what

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<v Speaker 2>we saw in twenty twenty three and really what he

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<v Speaker 2>did in his career in Oakland before, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>since all of these injuries have happened the last few years,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be nice to get that guy back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if going into the the you know, again, the

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<v Speaker 1>Braves have a tough schedule. I know, I keep saying it,

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<v Speaker 1>but they have a tough schedule to end the year

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<v Speaker 1>in September and into the playoffs. If they could go

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<v Speaker 1>in with a somewhat high level of trust in Putty

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy at catcher, maybe Baldwin at DH and then de

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<v Speaker 1>Bond at shortstop, with some type of platoon with Yas

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<v Speaker 1>and a guy that they add at the deadline in

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<v Speaker 1>the outfield, and you can have that healthy I know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's about this much more likely. It's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be you know, it's not going out that well then

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<v Speaker 1>you know it would, but if several of those things

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<v Speaker 1>can work, it'd be great. And so so we know

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<v Speaker 1>what the expectation right now is. Murphy's not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be reliable. That's just kind of where we are health

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<v Speaker 1>or offensive production. But if he could, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>it would make it even stronger to where then you

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<v Speaker 1>have Baldwin purely focused on his hitting, which can be

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<v Speaker 1>at the level of being a pure difference maker in

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<v Speaker 1>an entire series, for instance, and then also having Murphy

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<v Speaker 1>behind the plate, you've got the better option to handle

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<v Speaker 1>the pitching staff, plus also control running games. So Sean

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy coming back healthy and being productive, that could be

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<v Speaker 1>a very big positive for the Braves, Bigger than some

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<v Speaker 1>you know might think at this point in time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not only the brais of a tell schedule in September,

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<v Speaker 2>I think they play the most games of anybody, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>post All Star Break, because I think they played the

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 2>fewest amount of games of anybody pre All Star Break.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of it off days, some of it because they

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<v Speaker 2>had I think three rain outs that all got pushed

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<v Speaker 2>to the second half. So the Braids play a lot

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.359
<v Speaker 2>of game they don't have a lot of off days.

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<v Speaker 2>This matters a lot for the pitching staff. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>they had a lot of off days in like June July.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't really have that luxury in August September, so

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 2>it is going to be you know, on on top

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<v Speaker 2>of having a tough schedule just opponent wise, it's just

0:24:12.640 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of games. They're playing, I think more games

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:19.520
<v Speaker 2>than anybody. So you know, getting the roster where it

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:21.199
<v Speaker 2>needs to be by the time you get to that

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<v Speaker 2>trade deadline is a big deal right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, And and you see how much Baldwin's offense correlates

0:24:30.680 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 1>with the Braves playing in baseball, so you certainly don't

0:24:33.600 --> 0:24:34.960
<v Speaker 1>want going through the dog games.

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<v Speaker 2>And he needs like he needs rest too, Like he's

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<v Speaker 2>played damn near every day he's been out. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I know he got hurt, but like especially in August

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<v Speaker 2>when it's one hundred and five degrees outside, Like, you

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<v Speaker 2>also want bald want to be able to take some

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<v Speaker 2>days off, and right now, like they just can't afford

0:24:48.440 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>to give bald On a day off. Even if he's

0:24:50.960 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 2>not catching, he's in, he's in the lineup. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Murphy coming back is a big.

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<v Speaker 1>Deal, absolutely, And hopefully he'll make the most of his

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<v Speaker 1>rehab assignment and be back and maybe start to show

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<v Speaker 1>what we know he's capable of. But the Brave schedule

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<v Speaker 1>gets been interesting as we head into the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>So another thing that you kind of talk about that

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<v Speaker 1>you know it is kind of starting to fall in

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<v Speaker 1>place for the Braves is the fact that they're scheduled

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<v Speaker 1>to start the second of the second half of the year.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been pretty manageable so far, and he gets

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<v Speaker 1>even more manageable on this upcoming road trip. Three in Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe they have had with three or four

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. I want to say that it's three

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore. Yeah, three in Baltimore, three in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course they'll welcome the Nationals after that.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Braves schedule upcoming is right there. It's kind

0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of a red carpet for them to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>continue to put wins together, and they're starting to distance

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.800
<v Speaker 1>themselves once again in the standings. It's good to see

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<v Speaker 1>them taking advantage of this more manageable part of the schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and the Phillies, you know, I think the Phillies

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<v Speaker 2>started with the Mets right after the break and lost

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:35.280
<v Speaker 2>that series, and then they have a homestand with the

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<v Speaker 2>Dodgers and Yankees, I think, and the Phillies have not

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:42.520
<v Speaker 2>played well. You know, that helps, Like, like the Phillies

0:27:42.560 --> 0:27:44.399
<v Speaker 2>seem like they never lost the game for about a

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:46.960
<v Speaker 2>month and a half when the Braves were playing probably

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<v Speaker 2>the worst ball of the year, and so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the Marlins have just fallen completely of They've

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<v Speaker 2>lost nine in a row. I wouldn't be surprised if

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<v Speaker 2>Miami sold at this point. But yeah, the Phillies have

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<v Speaker 2>slowed down. Braves have pretty manageable part of the schedule

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<v Speaker 2>right now. It does get tougher as we get into

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<v Speaker 2>late August September. Phillies also have a pretty tough schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>They do the same thing. They have this tough Dodgers

0:28:09.960 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Yankee stretch and then it softens up quite a bit

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 2>and then they end pretty difficult as well. They still

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<v Speaker 2>have another West coast trip. They still have to go

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.959
<v Speaker 2>to Seattle and to Arizona, and obviously the Braves are

0:28:19.960 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>done with all their West Coast strips. So yeah, the schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it matters. Who you play matters. It's certainly,

0:28:26.840 --> 0:28:29.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, better to play worse teams. You still gotta

0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:32.479
<v Speaker 2>beat them. But I'm much rather be playing the you know,

0:28:32.800 --> 0:28:36.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm much rather play the Kansas City Royals and the

0:28:36.160 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 2>Los Angeles Dodgers. So the schedule matters. Both Phillies and

0:28:40.800 --> 0:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>Braves have a tougher second half schedule, but the Braves

0:28:45.080 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>are in a manageable part and so it's good to

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.719
<v Speaker 2>see their five and two in the first seven out

0:28:48.760 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 2>of the break. Go to Baltimore and you know, continue

0:28:51.800 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>good work. And Baltimore is not bad. I don't want

0:28:53.880 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 2>to like. Baltimore is a fringe playoff team in the

0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.720
<v Speaker 2>American League. They've got talent, but that's still a series.

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 2>I think talent for talent, the Breds are better than

0:29:01.760 --> 0:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the Orioles, So you know, I would say that's advantage

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Braves not I haven't seen the Orioles pitching matchups yet.

0:29:09.800 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who they're throwing, but I think the

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<v Speaker 2>brains are more talented.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's starting to show again in the standings

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>the Braves. As of the time of this recording, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Thursday afternoon, they're at four and a half games

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 1>on the Phillies, which is, you know, definitely not what

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.360
<v Speaker 1>they were, you know, two months ago, but it's a

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 1>bit more of a distance than they had at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of July. So that's that's good to see. And

0:29:28.920 --> 0:29:31.760
<v Speaker 1>again you you want to start looking at those standings,

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 1>not necessarily just in the NL East, but I mean,

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Stephen were joking before the show, you're kind of looking

0:29:37.360 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>at them kind of like as a golf leader board.

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>You're trying to see, you know, instead of who makes

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the cut, you're trying to see which teams you know,

0:29:43.960 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>get to a certain level of you know, either you

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.240
<v Speaker 1>know their playoff odds or you know they're a certain

0:29:48.320 --> 0:29:51.280
<v Speaker 1>number behind in the wild card spot. Because the more

0:29:51.320 --> 0:29:54.800
<v Speaker 1>teams that get into that grouping, the more sellers you have.

0:29:54.960 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that starts to bring the price down on some

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.320
<v Speaker 1>of these potential trade candidates. And Steve and I know

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:01.640
<v Speaker 1>you've been watching pretty closely, so some of these teams

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<v Speaker 1>are starting to see their playoff odds continue to dwindle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you and I talked about it, like in the

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.520
<v Speaker 2>American League, how the Red Sox went nuclear and that

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>helped all of the teams behind the Red Sox. You know,

0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's more dire for them, Maybe they're more interested

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:22.200
<v Speaker 2>in selling. A team like the Blue Jays, who look

0:30:22.280 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 2>like they could be contenders most of the year, and

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.120
<v Speaker 2>their playoff odds right now are at seven percent, so

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 2>it really feels like the Blue Jays are going to sell.

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:32.920
<v Speaker 2>The Braves could do themselves a favor by going to

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Baltimore and beating Orioles for two out of three, or

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe even sweeping them, because their playoff odds right now

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>are twenty four percent. If the Braves went and won

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:44.400
<v Speaker 2>that series, it'd be below twenty That's a potential seller

0:30:44.480 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>with some pieces, especially maybe a couple of bats that

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the Braves might be interested in. You know, the Twins

0:30:49.760 --> 0:30:52.080
<v Speaker 2>are down to twenty two percent. Obviously, the Royals have

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 2>been bad all year. An interesting one to me is

0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>that the Marlins are all the way down to a

0:30:56.800 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 2>twelve percent make playoff. You know, they were right there

0:31:01.640 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 2>with the Phillies for a while, but this nine game

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:07.920
<v Speaker 2>losing streak has just been brutal for them. Even the Nats,

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:10.400
<v Speaker 2>who are still above five hundred, they're a game above

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 2>five hundred. Fifty two and fifty one Fangres only gives

0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 2>them a seven percent chance to make the playoffs. I'm

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 2>guessing that's a team even if they don't sell. I

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 2>don't see them like aggressively buying. The Inel Central has

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:27.880
<v Speaker 2>been just a madhouse all year. Obviously, the Brewers are

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna win the division, but like the next three teams,

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>the Cubs, the Pirates, and the Cardinals have all been

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 2>right there in the wild Card. The Cardinals are starting

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.480
<v Speaker 2>to fall off a bit. They're at twenty five percent

0:31:37.520 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>playoff odds. The Reds are very The Reds also have

0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 2>the toughest schedule in baseball. On the second half, the

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Reds playoffs ods are at less than one percent. And

0:31:46.560 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 2>then the big one is the Padres. The Giants, and

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the Rockies in the West have all dropped. I mean,

0:31:51.640 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 2>the Giants and the Rockies have been down forever, but

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 2>the Padres are now after the Braves took three or four,

0:31:56.120 --> 0:31:58.520
<v Speaker 2>the Padres are all the way down to seven percent in

0:31:58.600 --> 0:32:00.560
<v Speaker 2>terms of their odds to make the post season. So,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're starting to see the clear or clearer

0:32:06.560 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 2>kind of demarcation of buyers and sellers. It looks like

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>it's going to be a decent split. You know, we're

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.520
<v Speaker 2>still we still have enough time to the trade deadline

0:32:17.520 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>that a team could go on like a five game

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.680
<v Speaker 2>winning streak and maybe flip you know, if the Cardinals

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 2>went on a five game winning streak, or if the

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.960
<v Speaker 2>even like the Padres, the like if the Orioles sweep

0:32:28.000 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 2>the Braves this weekend, that could flip them. So there's

0:32:31.760 --> 0:32:33.520
<v Speaker 2>still a few teams that it's right on the edge.

0:32:33.520 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 2>But we are starting to see a little bit of

0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>a clear divide between buyers and maybe not sellers, but

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 2>at least teams that are not going to be buying themselves,

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>which takes obviously some competition out of the market. So

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the market is getting clearer by the day.

0:32:49.440 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you're starting to see more indications of teams

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:54.959
<v Speaker 1>that are looking to sell, you know, and I think

0:32:55.000 --> 0:32:57.200
<v Speaker 1>there were a few reports out there that the Angels,

0:32:57.200 --> 0:33:01.640
<v Speaker 1>for instance, they're looking part ways with some controllable guys,

0:33:01.720 --> 0:33:03.720
<v Speaker 1>and I know, you know, the Reds previously had said

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:06.040
<v Speaker 1>that they were the one thing that I want to

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>put out there though, is that, you know, I know

0:33:09.360 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>that when it came to like a Tark Schoogl or

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>a Sunny Gray, you know, when we were talking about

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:17.320
<v Speaker 1>those guys potentially being out there, those were clear candidates

0:33:17.320 --> 0:33:19.760
<v Speaker 1>for the Braves to go get because those guys were

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>and are having excellent seasons. A lot of the options

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:25.720
<v Speaker 1>out there that seem reasonable to talk about as trade

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.960
<v Speaker 1>candidates right now, they're not having the best of seasons.

0:33:29.240 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of how it's going to be. It's

0:33:31.720 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be hard to find just a clear cut

0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>guy who this guy is having an outstanding season, you

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>obviously want to go have him. There are very few

0:33:39.880 --> 0:33:42.360
<v Speaker 1>guys of those out there. The trade candidates that you

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>are choosing from right now come from teams that sink,

0:33:45.840 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of that. In a lot of cases,

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>it's because the guys that you want have not been

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>the best, so especially when it comes to starting pitchers.

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:54.920
<v Speaker 1>That's why you know, for instance, I put such a high,

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:58.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, value in Jose Soriano is because the stuff

0:33:58.680 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in many of his pitches ranks pretty high in the

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 1>terms of quality. The Braves could probably do better with

0:34:04.720 --> 0:34:06.800
<v Speaker 1>that than the Angels are doing. Or maybe a Freddy

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.399
<v Speaker 1>Peralta who Yes, he has struggled so far this year,

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but you have to think there's something in this track

0:34:11.200 --> 0:34:12.839
<v Speaker 1>record the Braves might be able to tweak to get

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 1>better performance out of him. So even though the amount

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>of names may continue to go up as sellers start

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to more emerge, the one thing that I will say

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>is that, yes, you don't want to go out and

0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 1>get a guy who's just been awful, but more than

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 1>likely the guy that the Braves are looking to acquire

0:34:28.520 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>or will acquire. They probably haven't had the best of seasons,

0:34:31.160 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>but you have to think coming into the situation that

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:36.279
<v Speaker 1>the Braves offer will hopefully lead to better production from

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>that player.

0:34:38.600 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you the four teams that I'm

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:45.120
<v Speaker 2>watching to see because if they they could kind of

0:34:45.160 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>go either way. The four teams and they're all right

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 2>in a row in the standings are the Twins or

0:34:50.480 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 2>two and a half games back. Because the Twins have

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 2>some very interesting pieces, Joe Ryan being the main one.

0:34:55.600 --> 0:34:58.319
<v Speaker 2>The Tigers are four and a half games back of

0:34:58.360 --> 0:35:02.200
<v Speaker 2>the third wild card, but you know, there's a ton

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.000
<v Speaker 2>of teams ahead of them, four and a half might

0:35:04.040 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 2>be enough. And there was a report yesterday I think

0:35:06.360 --> 0:35:08.480
<v Speaker 2>Brad Scott talked about it about how the Tigers may

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>sell Scooble but then buy everywhere else and still try

0:35:12.520 --> 0:35:16.920
<v Speaker 2>to compete, which is actually a pretty fascinating conversation. So

0:35:17.320 --> 0:35:21.440
<v Speaker 2>the Twins, the Tigers, the Orioles who were playing this weekend.

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:23.279
<v Speaker 2>The Oriols have some hitters that I would take in

0:35:23.320 --> 0:35:26.799
<v Speaker 2>a heartbeat. But the Oriols also, you know, they're eight

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.440
<v Speaker 2>and two in their last ten games and they just

0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:31.600
<v Speaker 2>broke up the Red Sox big winning streak, so like,

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.920
<v Speaker 2>if the Oriols stay hot, they're probably gonna buy. And

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.560
<v Speaker 2>then the last one is Houston the Astros, because the

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Astros have some mention like if the Ashros were to say,

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:42.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, lose the next three or four games, and

0:35:43.000 --> 0:35:46.799
<v Speaker 2>like Jeremy Pania is available, I guarantee you Alex is

0:35:46.800 --> 0:35:50.360
<v Speaker 2>making a phone call. And the Astros have some interesting guys.

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:56.160
<v Speaker 2>So those four teams Twins, Tigers, Orioles, Astros are the

0:35:56.200 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>teams I'm really really concentrating on. They could really flip,

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:03.239
<v Speaker 2>like make it where it's almost like a buyer's market

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.000
<v Speaker 2>where there's a lot of sellers, or if they went

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 2>the other way, they can make it a seller's market

0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.680
<v Speaker 2>where there's a lot of buyers. So it's that's those

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:11.680
<v Speaker 2>are the four that are most interesting to me at

0:36:11.719 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 2>the moment.

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's gonna be fascinating. And you know, when these

0:36:15.320 --> 0:36:18.160
<v Speaker 1>gms and when Alex is talking and saying, you know, hey,

0:36:18.440 --> 0:36:22.400
<v Speaker 1>there's still it's still pretty foggy who exactly is available.

0:36:22.440 --> 0:36:24.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, we it may be August before a lot

0:36:24.920 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of these gms know who's supposed to available. That's why

0:36:27.719 --> 0:36:30.640
<v Speaker 1>you're more than likely going to see it being more

0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>of a frenzy over the over the last few days

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:36.000
<v Speaker 1>before the deadline instead of you know, it just being

0:36:36.040 --> 0:36:38.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, blockbuster after blockbuster for a full week and

0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>as long as the Braise are winning, that's fine. That's

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 1>that's the main thing that that they need to focus on.

0:36:42.960 --> 0:36:44.840
<v Speaker 1>Anything else from you, Steven, as we wrap up this

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.160
<v Speaker 1>edition of the Hamber Territory Podcast.

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Nope, just I'm excited to see a coon you back

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 2>this weekend. Yeah, at some point. I'm curious see how

0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:56.120
<v Speaker 2>they do the lineup. Really would love the rotation to

0:36:56.120 --> 0:36:59.240
<v Speaker 2>to pitch a few more innings here to help the bullpen. Obviously,

0:36:59.320 --> 0:37:01.880
<v Speaker 2>the trade stuff is going to be everywhere. We're tracking

0:37:01.920 --> 0:37:04.920
<v Speaker 2>it like hawks. Anything breaks at any point we will

0:37:04.960 --> 0:37:07.760
<v Speaker 2>be on here instantly to talk about it, of course.

0:37:08.280 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, it should be a fun series up in Baltimore.

0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. Camden Yards is always a fun place to see

0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 1>the Braves play a very very fun part. Wouldn't visit

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:19.680
<v Speaker 1>it one day for sure, until next time. For Steven Tolbert,

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:21.680
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0:37:21.719 --> 0:37:25.280
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0:37:25.280 --> 0:37:27.880
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0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.839
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