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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast presented by BET three

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Speaker 1: sixty five. We are part of the Action Network. I

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Speaker 1: am Chad Millman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Today is one of our favorite episodes of the off season.

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Speaker 1: We haven't done one at all because we've been so

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Speaker 1: busy with so much stuff heading into April, but we

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Speaker 1: got a window here, so we want to sneak in

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Speaker 1: a mail bag back by popular demand. Matt Mitchell producer

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Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell has been collecting questions basically since the end

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Speaker 1: of the football season that you guys have been wanting

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Speaker 1: to ask me and my co host, my companion, my compadre,

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Speaker 1: my BFF, professional better Simon Hunter Eto.

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Speaker 2: So I meant, Chad, how are you doing in New York?

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Speaker 1: Brother? It's rainy, you know, as always, apocalyptic weather trending

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Speaker 1: somewhere in the country, and right now it's in the Midwest,

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Speaker 1: headed towards the East coast. But listen before we even

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Speaker 1: get to the questions. And I love our listeners because

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Speaker 1: they sent in so many good questions, some of which

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Speaker 1: are tinged with just absolute bitterness. It's like it's like

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Speaker 1: they are reflecting their feelings in the question they're asking

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Speaker 1: and in the way they ask the question and in

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Speaker 1: the language they use to ask the question, hoping that

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Speaker 1: it will rile us up in our response and we

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Speaker 1: will ultimately feel the same way. And we were going

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Speaker 1: over one of the questions, which I can't wait to ask,

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Speaker 1: and at first we were like, I don't even get

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Speaker 1: this question, and then within about two minutes we had

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Speaker 1: a list of things that matched the answer. So I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to get to that. But first, guy Rams making

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Speaker 1: a move, Aaron Donald, explain yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chad, my good insights. I do get. There's always

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Speaker 2: me a couple of misses. That's just the nature of

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Speaker 2: the business, especially when you're getting fed by information from

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Speaker 2: people that are not at the top and they're at

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Speaker 2: the bottom and they're getting information from people in between. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I've gotten some news that the Rams are opened up

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Speaker 2: some cap space and they were going to pay Aaron

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Speaker 2: Donald some more guaranteed money off the books so they

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Speaker 2: could mess around with his contract as well. And I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, they're about to sign a big time player.

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Speaker 2: I thought they're about to be a big time move,

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Speaker 2: had a couple of different people in mind. Turned out,

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Speaker 2: I was just completely out of depth. Aaron Donald was

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Speaker 2: actually retiring, So yeah, painful to a couple of the

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Speaker 2: fans that reached out and I put into the action

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Speaker 2: app bet the Rams thirty five to one. A bunch

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Speaker 2: of people went out there and bed it because I thought, Okay,

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Speaker 2: they'll make a move here and their odds will move

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Speaker 2: to thirty to one or maybe a little lower. No,

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Speaker 2: it was Aaron Donald retiring, and the odds actually stayed

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Speaker 2: the exact same, which was actually even more shocking that

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Speaker 2: he didn't change their odds at all. But the Rams

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Speaker 2: still thirty five the one. I still love them, obviously,

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Speaker 2: big difference. Now the best player I would say in

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Speaker 2: my lifetime, he's my Reggie White, my Lawrence Taylor. There's

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Speaker 2: there's never been anyone like him, any any pro you

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Speaker 2: talked to. Again, we should ask Chris Long about it.

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Speaker 2: Apparently those guys knew the first day of practice like this.

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Speaker 2: They're like this kid came in out at Pittsburgh, this rookie.

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Speaker 2: They were all blown away, how strong and smart he was.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, big, big, big loss. Bad bet on my

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Speaker 2: part taking the Rams there, but still believing them, still

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Speaker 2: believing that offense, still think they're underrated, but big deal

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Speaker 2: them getting rid of Aaron Donald him retiring.

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Speaker 1: past few weeks. As I said, we have not been

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Speaker 1: glad to be diving in today. Thanks to everyone who contributed. Remember,

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Speaker 1: feedback is a gift. Okay, we've seen this happen. We've

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Speaker 1: seen teams go into the draft, they make the right

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Speaker 1: calls in a couple of spots, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: they're world beaters. Simon, what team do you believe right

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Speaker 1: now is likeliest to change the trajectory of their franchise

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Speaker 1: in this upcoming draft?

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Speaker 2: Quarterback league, Chad, So it's pretty easy. It's the Bears, right.

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Speaker 2: You guys have in your lifetime never really had a

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Speaker 2: franchise quarterback. You've had really good quarterbacks over the years,

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Speaker 2: but no one that you know that Peyton Manning, Drew

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Speaker 2: Brees type where it's like, this guy's going to be

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Speaker 2: on them. So yeah, for projecting out all the hype,

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Speaker 2: all the pressure. It's I can't remember the last player

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Speaker 2: that really had what you know, Williams is going to

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Speaker 2: have this upcoming seat. And you guys are a big market,

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Speaker 2: and I mean, I'm not here to shit on the Bears,

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Speaker 2: but you guys have been losers since the Super Bowl, right,

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Speaker 2: Like it is the truth where it's really tough in

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Speaker 2: you always luckily had the Lions's kind of laughing stock

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Speaker 2: of the division, and that's kind of flipped these last

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Speaker 2: the bottom dwellers. So for a franchise that desperately needs

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Speaker 2: to get back to its glory days of you know,

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Speaker 2: building a really great defense and then having a really

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Speaker 2: good offense, the Bears just have not had that since

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Speaker 2: that Super Bowl run so many years ago, where again

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Speaker 2: you didn't have a quarterback. You made that run without

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Speaker 2: really having a quarterback. So it's just it's a quarterback league.

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Speaker 2: I just can't get over how much Williams could change

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Speaker 2: not only the NFL, but the city of Chicago's trajectory

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Speaker 2: and what he can do for this franchise.

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Speaker 1: The weapons on that Bears super Bowl team that lost

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Speaker 1: to the Colts, Thomas Jones, Rex Rossman, Devin Hester. It's

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Speaker 1: a freaking miracle that team got to the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: given how bad they were. And you're right about Kayleb Williams.

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Speaker 1: There's really no other answer to this. I will give

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Speaker 1: two other answers, but to say about Kayleb Williams, Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the Bears front office has done an incredible job of

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Speaker 1: now they have Keenan Allen, they got Montes Sweat. I'm

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Speaker 1: still a little bit worried they haven't built up their

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Speaker 1: offensive line. I'm worried that they haven't found the right

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Speaker 1: guide to match Montes Sweat on the other side as

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Speaker 1: an edge rusher. But those things should be relatively replaceable,

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Speaker 1: overcome with the town, like Kayleb Williams. Given that they

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Speaker 1: have Keenan Allen, and they will have DJ Moore, and

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Speaker 1: they will have Cole Kmet. So agree the Bears are

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Speaker 1: in key position because of Caleb Williams. Two other teams

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Speaker 1: I'll mention, and this is, Look, it's about volume in

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Speaker 1: the first round, and how do you want to manage

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Speaker 1: those picks. So you've got Minnesota picking at eleventh, You've

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Speaker 1: the twenty something range. So you've got Minnesota with the

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Speaker 1: two very interesting teams that could change their trajectory. If

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Speaker 1: I had a handicap it, I'd say Minnesota more likely

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Speaker 2: I like that? Again, it's always the quarterbacks. Another team

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Speaker 2: is if if Daniels comes in and people are projecting

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Speaker 2: to be a Lamar type. We remember Lamar those early years, right,

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Speaker 2: He did a lot of running, but he was very

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Speaker 2: impactful when he joined Baltimore. So that's another team. The

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Speaker 2: Commanders with all the talent they have if they take

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Speaker 2: him or Drake May also, It's like these guys could

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Speaker 2: flip these turn these teams around. Like Chad just said,

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Speaker 2: CJ last year, no one would have seen what he

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Speaker 2: was going to do on Houston, right, No one could

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Speaker 2: have foreseen how you know, great he was going to

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Speaker 2: be right out of college coming in there, and the

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Speaker 2: same thing could happen here where Houston were just spinning

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Speaker 2: their tires for years after the whole Watson debacle. Right,

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Speaker 2: it was four or five years of spinning their tires

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Speaker 2: and just being number one, number two, number three. Taking

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Speaker 2: the draft, they get the guy and the first year

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Speaker 2: he gets them to the playoffs and then wins a

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Speaker 2: playoff game at home. So, like Chad said, all these

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Speaker 2: teams can completely change their franchise just hitting on the

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Speaker 2: right quarterback in this upcoming.

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Speaker 1: Draft to Carlo and Minnesota have much to gain. I

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Speaker 1: think the Commanders and the Patriots, I think they're just

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Speaker 1: further away coming in with rookie coaches. I mean, we

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Speaker 1: saw it with Damiko Ryans and what he was able

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Speaker 1: Will Anderson to help sort of mitigate some of the

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Speaker 1: defensive challenges, So we'll see, we'll see bear down. This

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Speaker 1: was one of my favorite questions, and this, like the

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Speaker 1: disgust is in the question Simon as a gambler, who

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Speaker 1: would you call the biggest disgrace in the NFL right now?

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Speaker 1: And we were able to write down a couple of

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Speaker 1: to answer first, who would you say is the biggest

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Speaker 2: I would say, just just from last season, like what

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Speaker 2: who burned me the most? And I really thought of

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Speaker 2: it since we talked about it. There's no one else

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Speaker 2: And it is all a situation where I tried not

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Speaker 2: Did we think he was gonna beat the Eagles outright? No,

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Speaker 2: I honestly have zero to no faith at backing him,

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Speaker 1: Other than Patrick Mahomes, you have one quarterback to win

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I was going to say, Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: If I'm like, you know what, I like that, I'll

432
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 2: bet it. But I don't watch it enough to really

433
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,120
Speaker 2: know enough about it. But Joel embiid I'm a hater,

434
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 2: doesn't move the needle for me. I just keep taking

435
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 2: back to the Michael Jordan doc, him talking about getting

436
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: his body back in the NBA shape and how hard

437
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 2: it was to get his body back in the NBA shape.

438
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 2: And that's what I think with it with Embiid. Embiid,

439
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 2: he has to get his body back in the NBA

440
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: shape now in the next month or two before the playoffs.

441
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: It's gonna be really tough. I mean, he's such a

442
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: big guy. So I'm just I'm a better Sixers fan,

443
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 2: like I've only could take so many second round exits

444
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: with Joel Embiid that to get excited anymore. So even

445
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: if we do limp in yeah, if we upset the

446
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: Boston Celtics and they're the one seed where the eighth seed, yeah,

447
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 2: I'll be fired up. But deep down, I don't have

448
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,399
Speaker 2: any faith. That's just that's just a bitter sixerss I am.

449
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: Right now, this next question, I love your most memorable

450
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 1: NFL draft moment as both a fan and as a gambler.

451
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm going to go first. I know this sounds crazy,

452
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:23,160
Speaker 1: but the euphoria I'm gonna go with recent draft history.

453
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,680
Speaker 1: The euphoria we felt in my house when Justin Fields

454
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: was drafted by the Bears. It's we had the same

455
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,919
Speaker 1: reaction as when the Cubs won the World Series, like

456
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: the jumping up and down, the screaming. It meant so

457
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,760
Speaker 1: much to us as Bears fans because the Bears made

458
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: a move to get into that and the Bears historically

459
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: are not great in the front office, are not great

460
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: at identifying talent, are not great at being aggressive to

461
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 1: make moves they think will make them better. Now, in hindsight,

462
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: it wasn't the move that made them better, but the

463
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: fact that in that moment they were aggressive and did

464
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,359
Speaker 1: the maneuvering you need to do to get someone that

465
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 1: we all thought would be great. It was a real

466
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: warm moment, Like I think about hugging my kid, like

467
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: we were screaming and yelling. The dog is going crazy.

468
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 1: So that's a big moment as a fan. That's why

469
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm so upset it's over, moving on to Kayleb Williams,

470
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: but I still remember it fondly. I know what you're

471
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 1: gonna say as a gambler, so I want you to

472
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: take that one.

473
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely. As a fan, I'm in the same as you.

474
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: I think it'd either be McNabb or Carson Wentz. Whenever

475
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 2: you get the franchise quarterback, it's the best. Carson Wentz.

476
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: I probably watched all of his film for three months

477
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 2: leading up to the season, just I could not stop

478
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 2: reading about him, watching film on them. I was literally

479
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: hooked once the Eagles drafted, just because when you draft

480
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 2: that high, you expect the best things ever of this quarterback.

481
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: So definitely Carson Wentz for me as a yeah, I

482
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 2: would say in my media career, my definitely my experience

483
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 2: shared with you with the Trey Lance and people on

484
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,080
Speaker 2: this show was really fun, like calling my shot that

485
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 2: you know, all these people in media were lying to

486
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 2: people and that they were wrong and there was not

487
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 2: any real love for Mac Jones going at number three,

488
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 2: and it was all Trey Lance that that was really

489
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: fun and profitable. I made a lot of money off it.

490
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 2: But my my biggest win, probably before media joining media,

491
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: was that Baker Sam Donald Josh Allen draft. I could

492
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: not stop betting enough on Sam Darnald not being the

493
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 2: number one pick. So it was basically anybody but Sam

494
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: Donald being the number one pick. I was gonna win

495
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: a bunch of money, and little did I know it

496
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 2: was going to be a Baker. I just I thought

497
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 2: the whole time it was gonna be Josh Allen and

498
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 2: pretty shocking it was Baker Mayfield. So yeah, I would

499
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 2: say for money wise, probably that draft, but definitely most

500
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: fun I've ever had was that Trey Lance draft.

501
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 1: Is guys who were actively betting when Jim Harbaugh was

502
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 1: last in the NFL. How do you feel about his return?

503
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 1: From a gambling point of view, more predictable unders, more

504
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: consistent play from the Chargers, potential player mutiny over his

505
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,199
Speaker 1: raw ross style. I've thought so much about this because

506
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 1: I know it's hard not to pull the trigger on

507
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, who was won everywhere and turned his teams

508
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: around quickly, whether it was University of San Diego, whether

509
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: it was Stanford, whether it was the Niners, whether it

510
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 1: was back to Michigan, where he ironically had the most

511
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 1: struggles before he turned that team into a jugg ornaut.

512
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: I wanted to be betting on Jim Harribaugh, but the

513
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: value wasn't there, and then they started losing all their

514
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: players and they got a lot of cap space. I

515
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: don't think the issue with Harbo is ever going to

516
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 1: be his players. His players love him. It's always with

517
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: his bosses. He's a crazy person and like he's hard

518
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: to get along with and that's what forced him to

519
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: leave the Niners. He couldn't get along with the front

520
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: office he had worn as welcome out in Michigan. He

521
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: won the titles in spite of the fact he had

522
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: worn as welcome out there. They were trying to run

523
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: him out of town. So the issue will be with

524
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: management out with his players. But my expectations are pretty

525
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: low for this Chargers team.

526
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they'll be bad this year. No expectation.

527
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: I mean to meetcha, I talk a little bit ago

528
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: when I put a future on them, and it's no,

529
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: They're the type of team I can't wait to bet

530
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: next year in the future for the future market. But yeah,

531
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 2: if you're a Chargers fan, i'd be elated. Like this

532
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 2: guy is to me one of the best organizational builders

533
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,400
Speaker 2: you can possibly have. Whatever talent you have, he will

534
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: get the most out of it. And you know, Kaepernick

535
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: is not this great quarterback, but he was good. And

536
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: you know, Harball was able to highlight his great ability.

537
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: I mean that's what he's so special at. So yeah,

538
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 2: it's his predictability. Everything he does. I just like, especially

539
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 2: as a better I know exactly what I'm getting, Like

540
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: his team. They match up a certain way. He likes

541
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 2: to run the all a certain way. It is all

542
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: very predictable, so compared to their last coach. Yes, I

543
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 2: am very excited as a gambler. He has a lot

544
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: of patterns and a lot of things he does. But

545
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: the biggest thing is I just think it's excited for

546
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: someone like Herbert that has so much potential and talent.

547
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: If he is really as good as we think he is,

548
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: hardball will be able to get the best out of him.

549
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, pretty excited as a fan.

550
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: By the way, I think Matt Mitchell just put something

551
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: in our script to tell me that players on the

552
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: Niners and Michigan complained about Jim Harbaugh all the time. Whatever.

553
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: As a leader, I don't hear players complaints. Simon, can

554
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: you name the fastest growing ticketing app in the United States?

555
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 2: Game Time?

556
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: That's right, It's Game Time. I love Game Time for

557
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 1: two reasons. First, they still sponsor this show. Second, actually

558
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: I use game Time all the time. They have amazing

559
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: last minute deals, including pro in college sports speak, which

560
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm actually opening the game Time app right now from

561
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: our office here in New York City. And guess what

562
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 1: I can get in to see the red hot streaking

563
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: New York Yankees for like one hundred and twenty bucks

564
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 1: go up to the Bronx see the Yankees. But no

565
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 1: matter where you live, download the game Time app get

566
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: out have some fun this week. You deserve it. You

567
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: can redeem code favorites for twenty dollars off for his

568
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Speaker 1: purchase terms apply again. Just download the game Time app

569
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Speaker 1: and use code favorites for twenty dollars off your first purchase.

570
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. If you could have

571
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: played Simon for any current or former NFL owner, who

572
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: would you choose?

573
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 2: I love history, I love crazy, weird personality, so I

574
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 2: gotta go without Davis. He's like the weirdest dude ever.

575
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 2: His big ass yellow teeth and him just saying crazy

576
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 2: stuff that's sometimes racist, but he's just he's from a

577
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: different world. Like I would have loved to experience a

578
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 2: guy like that who had been around so many different personalities,

579
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: just picking his brain about all the old days with Joe,

580
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 2: Matt and just all the different players he's had through

581
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: those doors. It's just it's crazy. His perspective on everything

582
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: would be wild. So yeah, if I was looking for

583
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: someone that would just be an insane time to hang

584
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: around and get to know he would definitely be way

585
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: up there, Al Davis.

586
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: So the next question someone asked is, if you could

587
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: have played for any current or former NFL coach, who

588
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: would you choose. So I'm going to answer both of

589
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: these questions in tandem. I would have played quarterback for

590
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: Bill Walsh under the ownership of Eddie de Bartolo.

591
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: Love it.

592
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: How does it get better than that?

593
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good.

594
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you are playing in the West Coast, You're

595
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: playing in a revolutionary offense, You're playing with a genius coach,

596
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: and you're playing for an owner who may or may

597
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: not be connected and may or may not treat his

598
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: team as if it is the Tiffany of franchises and

599
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: just does not care about spending the money and wants

600
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: them to have the best of everything. That was literally

601
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: high flying days for the San Francisco forty nine ers

602
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: in the eighties. Bill Walsh's coach Eddie de Barlow as

603
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: the owner.

604
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 2: This is I would say, this is painful to say

605
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 2: I'll go with I'll go with Troy Aikman if I'm

606
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: going there just because you got the owner you got

607
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 2: the cool coach. That was probably as good of a

608
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: time as you can have in the nineties playing on

609
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: that Dallas team where I can't imagine the parties Jerry

610
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: Jones was throwing. But then going to key West with

611
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 2: your head coach and having beers and ride around in

612
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 2: his boat was probably a pretty damn good time. So yeah,

613
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: as much as I love to shit on Dallas, that

614
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 2: would have been pretty fun to be Troy Aikman in

615
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 2: the nineties.

616
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: Well, look, I know I'll always bring back things that

617
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: I covered at one point or another over the past

618
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: thirty years as an old person. Don't forget. I basically

619
00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: was in the Cowboys locker room in the nineties every

620
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: week during the football season. There was one year that

621
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated when I was working there my first or

622
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: second year, we went down and did an entire week

623
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. The whole issue was about that. It

624
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: was me and Rick Tellender, who was the writer, and

625
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: we were all over the place. From in the locker

626
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: room with Troy Aikman when he's complaining about the league

627
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: and sort of silly silly rules that they have, I

628
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: was with there was a safety Bill Bates who was

629
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl special teamer, and I went home with

630
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: him one night after practice to be with him and

631
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: his family and was there when his wife told him

632
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: they were having I think their third or fourth kid,

633
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: and those were I would go to this like sports

634
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: bar where all the cowboys hung out, and they were

635
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: all there all the time, playing pool, drinking like those

636
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: were heady drug field days. They were pretty freaking insane.

637
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 1: It was. That was a crazy life going to clubs

638
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: with them. Oh my god, Like I remember going to

639
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: clubs with like this backup running back on the Cowboys.

640
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 1: It was just you were living in Dallas in the

641
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: nineties playing for the Cowboys. That was something special, probably

642
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: like living probably like living in San Francisco and playing

643
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: for the Niners in the eighties. All Right, here's a

644
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: very important question. You and I are both going to

645
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: have different perspectives on this. Where do you think, and

646
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: this has been a crazy few weeks for sports betting,

647
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Speaker 1: where do you think the state of sports betting is headed?

648
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: We've seen enormous shifts in the six years since PASSBO

649
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: was repealed, some good, some bad. What do you think

650
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: the landscape will look like in the next six years,

651
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 1: say twenty thirty. By the way, PASSPAZ the Professional Amateur

652
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: Sports Protection Act for those who are new to the show,

653
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: that is the law that was a federal betting band

654
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court repealed in May of twenty eighteen

655
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: and open the floodgates and all this state by state

656
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 1: legal sports betting. Do you want to start?

657
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say it's gonna keep getting better. I mean,

658
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 2: these are the early days, and it's just there's gonna

659
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: be a lot of speed bumps. A lot of people

660
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: are gonna ruin their lives and it's sad, but it's

661
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 2: just gonna be an over adjustment to what it was before,

662
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 2: which is, you know, it was just different. Like the

663
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 2: thing I think is really funny is people are like

664
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Speaker 2: lookouts gamblings ruined in sports as if there wasn't a

665
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 2: billion dollar business in the shadows for the last I

666
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: don't know, one hundred years. It's just a very lame

667
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: take and it's lazy. There's just a lot of lazy

668
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: takes in media about the sports betting stuff. But I

669
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 2: like it. I think it's good. Everything's above boarded For

670
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: someone like me, I still can do the offshore market,

671
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: do whatever I want while still doing legal stuff. For

672
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: Joe Schmoe that doesn't know the local guy down the street,

673
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 2: it's good for him if he wants to put ten

674
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: bucks on his favorite team. That's what I'm here for.

675
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: I'm here for responsible gambling, what people want to do.

676
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: That kind of stuff. It's great. But when you hear

677
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 2: the horror stories, yeah, it makes my skin crawl, where

678
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: it's like it's someone with a disease that doesn't know

679
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 2: to handle and they've ruined their lives and maybe their

680
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: family's lives. It's heartbreaking. But I like it now because

681
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: it's all above board, like them catching that guy it's

682
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: a round though, raptor that. Yeah, I like that. I'm

683
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 2: so happy they're catching these guys because that's they ruin

684
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: it for people. That's that's my issue, is that like

685
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: the shady stuff going on by the scenes, it ruins it.

686
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 2: And that's why I love that it's above board now

687
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: they're catching these people trying to do this stuff. These

688
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I remember there was that crazy story last

689
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: year about that baseball coach going doing all these weird

690
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 2: bets and doing us crazy stuff they called them. And

691
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: that's what I like now because the mafia. They would

692
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 2: have just made him disappear. There isn't some news story

693
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: about it. This is it's just a blimp on the map.

694
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 2: So I think it's just different where in Europe they're

695
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: obviously way ahead of US. America has a lot of

696
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: catching up to do. But you don't hear about it

697
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 2: being a huge problem in Europe. Right, It's just it

698
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 2: just becomes a part of life. I think eventually it'll

699
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,799
Speaker 2: become a part of life, but that's probably gonna take

700
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Speaker 2: another ten, fifteen, twenty years.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Look, this has been a crazy

702
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks for sports betting in general, and the

703
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: coverage of sports betting between Johntay Porter and Otani and

704
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: there have been a series of stories in places like

705
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 1: The Wall Street Journal and The New Yorker about is

706
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: it good for sports? Is it bad for sports? I

707
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: will always come back to what you just said. It's

708
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: always been there. It just existed in the shadows. It

709
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: hasn't changed anything. There have been gambling scandals nineteen nineteen,

710
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: nineteen fifties, nineteen sixties, nineteen eighties, nineteen nineties, like Tim

711
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: Donaghy in the two thousands, like these things have always

712
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: been around because.

713
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 2: Google, Google, inter Milan and referees. I mean, it just

714
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: happened literally a couple of years ago.

715
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Speaker 1: People like in Europe, it's not going to go away.

716
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: It's too intertwined at this point. Bill Simmons on his

717
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: podcast I think was last week Van Lathan, one of

718
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: his contributors, they had a great conversation about this. And look,

719
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: we're in bed with operators, We're sponsored by operators. Action

720
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: Network has partnerships commercial partnerships with operators, like it's to

721
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Speaker 1: our financial advantage to see it continue to do well.

722
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Speaker 1: But I also think the policing is more rigorous. I

723
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: think the responsible gaming conversation is more prevalent. You're seeing

724
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: every day. Even the operators recently created a new group

725
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: that is focused on responsible gaming. What it looks like

726
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: in the next six years, more states are going to legalize.

727
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: You know, the question is going to be when does

728
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: California legalized, When does Texas legalized? When does Florida legalize?

729
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: Those are going to be tipping points towards scale that

730
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: is national in nature and make the market even bigger

731
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: than what it is. I do think there's going to

732
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 1: be pullbacks and advertising on television, and I think there

733
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: will be a crusading politician somewhere who tries to change

734
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: the structure state by state on how states benefit from revenue.

735
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: But it's not going anywhere, and it's only going to

736
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 1: get bigger. This a great question because there's two more questions,

737
00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: and you're in your thirties. I'm in my fifties, so

738
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Speaker 1: I think we can both answer this really well. Simon,

739
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: you're well into your thirties looking back, what do you

740
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: think the hardest age to be is? If you were

741
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: power ranking ages starting once you reach school, what's at

742
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: the bottom?

743
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 2: I would say personally, for me, my hardest age was

744
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: probably twenty one, where I was working in TV and

745
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 2: I was making really good money, but I was working

746
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,839
Speaker 2: long hours, twelve hour days, and I just remember all

747
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 2: my friends were in college and I was just like,

748
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: what am I doing? Why did I not go to

749
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 2: college and just play lacrosse or something like why did

750
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: I take this path? So I would say twenty one

751
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 2: was tough ride, tons of self doubt and I was

752
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 2: still like, what am I gonna do in life? Because

753
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: I really know what I wanted to do, So yeah,

754
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 2: for me, personally, everyone's gonna have a different age. But

755
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: I would say it was the toughest year, but then

756
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: there's one of the best years because it put me

757
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: into this life and it was a turning point in

758
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 2: my life. So I am a believer that when your

759
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: life is at the lowest and you're filled with doubt

760
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: and life really sucks, the best parts of your life

761
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: might be just around the corner. So always stick to

762
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 2: that advice of just what is it? Winston Churchill. If

763
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 2: you're going through hell, keep going, like I love that saying.

764
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Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I think twenties. Even if

765
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing, or think you know what

766
00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 1: you're doing, it's fucking brutal because you're not quite confident

767
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: if you're in college or not in college, you're just

768
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: out of college. You're trying to figure out what you're

769
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: going to do. You see people accelerating at different stages.

770
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: You're wondering why you're not going as fast. You are

771
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 1: full of anxiety for your career, You're full of anxiety

772
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: for relationships. Where do you need to be? What's happening

773
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: that you're not connected to. It's like it's full of

774
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 1: trying to figure yourself out. In a way that is

775
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: so different than junior high or high school, right, because

776
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: you feel like, all of a sudden, the stakes are

777
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: so much higher. I see this now with my kid

778
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: who's twenty one and is like trying to figure out

779
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: his life and is stressed about everything, and my wife

780
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,959
Speaker 1: and I are like, take a step, man, Like any

781
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: decision you make today is not going to impact the

782
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: decisions that you're going to have when you're thirty or

783
00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: forty or fifty one hundred. Early to mid twenties are

784
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 1: so fucking hard, you're so in the middle of transition.

785
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: I will make the case that early fifties fucking choice. Really,

786
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 1: it's really nice, and I recommend it. I look forward

787
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: to everybody. Get in there. All right, Simon, I know

788
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: you're excited about this. Explain are you excited about the

789
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: upcoming solar eclipse?

790
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: I am, Chad. I don't know if I said on

791
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: the show. Maybe it was off ver I told Chad,

792
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: but I'm actually heading up to Buffalo on I think

793
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: of going up on the seventh and the eclipse of

794
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 2: the eighth or maybe it's spice versa. But I'm going

795
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 2: up a day early, going to check out the Nagara

796
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: Falls and then going the next day to go check

797
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 2: out the eclipse, which is on like a direct path

798
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 2: through Buffalo, So really looking forward to it. I'm like

799
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: kind of a star gazing nerd a little bit. I

800
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: used to be really into it, not so much as

801
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,719
Speaker 2: I've gotten older, but yeah, like the James Webb telescope,

802
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 2: all that stuff, I just I can't get enough of it.

803
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, basically, if there's someone that's asked yourself, is

804
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: it worth getting into the path of a totally eclipse,

805
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 2: it is worth the drive. Even though it's only four

806
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 2: minutes long. It is the craziest, coolest thing I've ever seen.

807
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: It's basically you know what I mean. You don't even

808
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 2: need the special sunglasses. Once the eclipse starts happening. You

809
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: can look directly at it without anything on your face

810
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 2: and just see what looks like a black hole and

811
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: this white fire dancing around it. It's It's crazy. It's

812
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: I never see anything like it. So yeah, I'm I'm

813
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: all in and really excited about this totally eclipse.

814
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: I love learning things about Simon outside of betting.

815
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: Yeah I might I might come off as kind of cool,

816
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 2: but deep down chat nos I'm a nerd, such.

817
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 1: A nerd, see, and people would would think I'm a nerd,

818
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: but I actually just don't have a deep down. So

819
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: Matt Mitchell was asking me the chat best oil to

820
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: nut ratio. I don't know if he's asking because a

821
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: fan is asking that, or if he wants to know.

822
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: I can tell you right now that my go to

823
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: mixture right now that I'm enjoying the most, the combination

824
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: of hazel nuts, macadamia nuts, pashews, and pecans. You mix

825
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: them with some like two tablespoons of olive oil, some

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Speaker 1: sea salt, some orange zest, and some fennel. You save

827
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Speaker 1: some of the orange zest. You roast them for twelve

828
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Speaker 1: minutes in the oven. At about four something, I think

829
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830
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831
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00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 2: My favorite nut, I will go with the good old

833
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 2: fashioned baseball peanut. I love the classic. I think I

834
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,000
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we did. We had a whole bag of

836
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Speaker 1: it at the Phillies game.

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00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm about that life.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's so annoying that you're going to

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840
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,400
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841
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,359
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