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Speaker 3: That's right, GMFB.

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Speaker 2: Everybody on a Wednesday, lock in Manti, Mike G, Kyle,

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Speaker 2: and myself love a couple other friends stop by this hour.

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Speaker 2: I specifically love the fashion choices of the gentleman in

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Speaker 2: New York because nothing screams talking about Philip Rivers and

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Speaker 2: the resurgence. Then then a great button down with the

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Speaker 2: short sleeve Mic g. And then the classic Dad button

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Speaker 2: down with the seasonal cross check.

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Speaker 3: Everybody just looks just bolo tie.

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Speaker 4: That's true, That's true. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe maybe for Friday.

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Speaker 2: Maybe for Friday, if he starts, we'll get the bolo

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Speaker 2: ties all around. Let's get more information on this situation

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Speaker 2: that's unfolding that we're all kind of falling over ourselves about.

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Speaker 2: With Tom Heli Saro, NFL Network insider, joining us this

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Speaker 2: morning on a Wednesday, Tom, I would love to say

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Speaker 2: say it ain't so, but I kind of want you

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Speaker 2: to say it is so. What's happening in Apolis of Philip.

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Speaker 4: Rivers, Jamie.

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Speaker 6: It's a great day when a forty four year old

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Speaker 6: man gets to say a forty four year old man

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Speaker 6: is coming back.

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Speaker 4: To play in the NFL. Philip Rivers, this is real.

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Speaker 6: He is signing with the Colts practice squad and is

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Speaker 6: expected to be on the practice field today. This follows

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Speaker 6: the Sunday injury to quarterback Daniel Jones, who suffered a

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Speaker 6: season ending toured achilles after playing in recent weeks with

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Speaker 6: a fracture in the fibula on his other leg. The

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Speaker 6: Colts examined multiple options here, but there is a long

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Speaker 6: standing relationship between coach Shane Stikeen and Philip Rivers, who

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Speaker 6: played under a previous coaching staff with the Colts. Back

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Speaker 6: in twenty twenty, Stiking coach Rivers in San Diego with

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Speaker 6: the Chargers.

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Speaker 5: The two have kept in touch.

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Speaker 6: Rivers knows the offense, so even though he has not

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Speaker 6: played a NFL game in nearly five years, Rivers from

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Speaker 6: a mental perspective, should be able to wrap up pretty quickly.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 6: Physically, there are plenty of questions remaining about Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 6: My understanding is in that workout that he had on

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Speaker 6: Monday night, rivers arm looked basically like it always has.

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Speaker 6: He's throwing it well, but there's a lot of other

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Speaker 6: things that go into the overall body and being able

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Speaker 6: to withstand not just the repeated throwing in the game,

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Speaker 6: but of course also getting hit. They're going to take

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Speaker 6: a look and see how River's body bounces back over

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Speaker 6: the next couple of days. The Colts have still not

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Speaker 6: ruled out Riley Leonard being able to start on Sunday

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Speaker 6: against the Seahawks, though he has when our Ian Rappaport

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Speaker 6: reported is a low grade PCL spring. At most Leonards

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Speaker 6: status should be jeopardized for just this one game, but

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Speaker 6: that leaves the door open for Philip Rivers. Brett Rippon

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Speaker 6: is also an option on the practice squad. But I

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Speaker 6: think it's pretty obvious what everybody in New York and

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Speaker 6: LA is rooting for, which is Philip Rivers really doing

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Speaker 6: this and being back on an NFL field as soon

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Speaker 3: Tom, Thanks for all that info. It is an absolute.

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Speaker 2: Marvel, but it's not because it's a unicorn of a situation.

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Speaker 2: Rivers would be the fifth quarter back all time to

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Speaker 2: start a game if he does, at the age of

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Speaker 2: Steve de Burg. So now that we know that it

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Speaker 2: has been done before, it's just more that the River's

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Speaker 3: Mike Garafalo, get in here.

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Speaker 2: When you heard this starting to unfold on Monday, and

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Speaker 2: now we have a development in the case of this

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Speaker 7: The Steve de Berg comparison is interesting because he was

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Speaker 7: gone for five years and then came back. So it's

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Speaker 7: similar to Philip Rivers in coming back. This sort of

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Speaker 7: came out of left field for all of us, right

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Speaker 7: and the average NFL fan. It doesn't sound like it

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Speaker 7: considered a comeback, and maybe even times that weren't as

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Speaker 7: So all that being said, Rivers considered it, explored it,

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Speaker 7: and Tommy and I were talking about this yesterday, it's like,

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Speaker 5: I mean there was a few moments at the end.

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Speaker 7: There where he before he signed on the dotted line, said.

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Speaker 4: Am I doing this for the right reason?

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Speaker 7: Is this really just something that I want to do selfishly?

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Speaker 7: be beneficial for multiple people? And the answer in the

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Speaker 7: end to him was yes, because Riley Leonard is a

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Speaker 7: guy that he's mentored before, Shane Steichen is a guy

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Speaker 7: that he has a relationship with, the organization is one

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Speaker 7: that he hasn't really so all this man tie had

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Speaker 7: that I'm doing because oh I'm gonna do it on

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Speaker 7: a whim. High school season's over and let's see if

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Speaker 7: we can do this. You're also, by the way, resetting

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Speaker 7: that Hall of Fame clock, so to do that. Am

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Speaker 7: I doing this for all the right reasons? He went

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Speaker 7: made sure he went through all that and said, yes,

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Speaker 7: I am.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna sign right here.

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Speaker 8: Nice Mike Gene knowing Phil his number one thing. He's

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Speaker 8: always been tracing that Lombardy. He's always wanted to have

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Speaker 8: But you talk about his familiarity and his connection to

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Speaker 8: certain people on that team. When you look at the

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Speaker 8: they have. It's reminiscent for me of what we had

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Speaker 8: was him getting the ball to him and then a

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Speaker 8: And the best thing about the Indianapolis Colts and how

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Speaker 8: What's great in my opinion is I think this opens

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Speaker 8: know that you have to respect his wisdom. He's going

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Speaker 8: to get those guys into the right play call. That's

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Speaker 8: one thing about Phil.

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Speaker 4: I don't know where his arm is at right now,

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Speaker 4: but he wasn't. There wasn't a lot.

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Speaker 8: his mobility. And let's think about the last four games.

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Speaker 8: They have the Seahawks, they have the Niners, they have

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Speaker 8: they're going to evaluate his ability to get the ball

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Speaker 4: With these four teos coming in town.

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Speaker 1: This is the weirdest, most fun NFL season ever. This is

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Speaker 1: so strange. The fact that we are here in the

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Speaker 1: that Lamar and Burrow and Mahomes maybe likely won't start

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Speaker 1: a playoff game in twenty twenty five, or a regular

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Speaker 5: I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: We should have known, Jamie, because before the first snap

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Speaker 1: of this NFL season was even taken, one of the

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Speaker 1: best players in the offending champs was ejected for spitting

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Speaker 1: It's never settled down, and I think this has the

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Speaker 5: If Philip Rivers starts a game, he plays terribly.

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Speaker 1: I don't even care if he's out there starting in

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Speaker 5: It's the story of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's also for a lot of us, in a weird

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Speaker 1: way relatable. Who doesn't and once they hit a certain

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Speaker 1: even you can post a picture of yourself on Instagram,

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Speaker 1: whatever your version of this is. Philip Rivers has a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys and women in their forties and fifties saying.

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Speaker 5: Like, I still think I have it, I still think

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Speaker 5: I can do it.

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Speaker 1: His version of getting back into the squad rack is

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Speaker 1: going and starting an NFL game a quarterback and it's

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Speaker 1: starting to look like it's going to happen. I would

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Speaker 1: also say, to add what Mike was saying about some

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Speaker 1: of the past of this, I would encourage anybody. Phil

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Speaker 1: and DP does what we all do when you see

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Speaker 1: an old player, say wow, you look like you can

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Speaker 1: still play, and Rivers goes, yeah, I can I'm not kidding,

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Speaker 1: and I'm you know, a little heavier now, but I

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Speaker 1: can still play. I have the pads on sometimes and

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Speaker 1: I can still throw it. It was like this disarmingly

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Speaker 5: To recollect about Yeah, it was a couple of years ago.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to John Lanshi the Niners interested in me,

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Speaker 1: and I was talking to the Saints, and like this

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Speaker 1: something he's been interested in for a long time, up

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Speaker 1: to and including to the point that it wouldn't surprise

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Speaker 1: me if it comes out that he contacted the Colts.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it went down once Daniel Jones

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Speaker 1: come in for a workout. He's here, he's ready. He

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Speaker 3: Okay, it's Wednesday, he shows up at the building.

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Speaker 4: Like there are so many conversations, and just to shine.

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Speaker 4: In the game of football.

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Speaker 7: In twenty thirteen, I sat with John Elway for an interview.

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Speaker 4: Put that away.

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Speaker 1: If he does redo the five year thing because he's

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Speaker 8: I think it's also a case of you know, some

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Speaker 2: And all I have to say about this man and

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Speaker 3: We love to see it.

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Speaker 4: Though.

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Speaker 2: We got to look at the playoff pictures. Just a

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Speaker 3: Here's the AFC Broncos right.

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Speaker 2: Now at eleven wins have the top spot. But you

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Speaker 3: Okay, on the right side, you somehow now have the.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry, Jane, I'm I don't think my team was

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Speaker 7: that a team that's come from next to dead, next

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Speaker 7: to a team that we had already completely buried. The

437
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Speaker 7: one in five Baltimore Ravens would qualify. How about the

438
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Speaker 7: one in six Miami Joe. This would be ann believable story,

439
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Speaker 7: in large part because awesome. I want to say hello

440
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Speaker 7: to the control room here, producers. A lot of time,

441
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Speaker 7: UH want you when a team is one and six

442
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Speaker 7: to say, hey, this guy might get fired coming up here.

443
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Speaker 7: And there was a lot of that going on, not

444
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Speaker 7: just our network, all over the place. Is Mike McDaniel

445
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Speaker 7: going to get fired to be loses on a Thursday? No,

446
00:18:24,908 --> 00:18:26,748
Speaker 7: he didn't, and they stuck by him. And guess what

447
00:18:27,188 --> 00:18:29,628
Speaker 7: they're already making a charge, and if they make the postseason,

448
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Speaker 7: it's going to be winning nine out of ten.

449
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Speaker 5: Down the stretch.

450
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Speaker 1: Here.

451
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Speaker 7: Plus it's Miami, you know, cool colors, a cool offense,

452
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Speaker 7: a great personality at the head coach that we thought

453
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Speaker 7: was going to be a problem and a reason.

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Speaker 5: They'd be go, look look how awkward it is.

455
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Speaker 7: Well, you know what, he's got him fighting, and I

456
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Speaker 7: love the fact that he's playing. He's coaching for his

457
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Speaker 7: job next year and maybe securing it.

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Speaker 5: Cool colors, colors, they do have cool.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, part of the that's part of making the I mean,

460
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Speaker 1: I still it's a great answer because I can't believe

461
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Speaker 1: that it makes perfect sense.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I was there, We were all there a

463
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Speaker 5: couple of months.

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Speaker 1: Like bleak does not even begin to describe what was

465
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Speaker 1: going on with the Dolphins. All right, but listen, the

466
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Speaker 1: team that you maybe make noise in the playoffs, how

467
00:19:10,988 --> 00:19:13,948
Speaker 1: about the quarterback in the playoffs? Who's seventeen and four?

468
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Speaker 1: It's right here, it's right here.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 1: They win the AFC every year, and the years that

471
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Speaker 1: they don't, they're in the AFC title. And that's the

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Speaker 1: only seasons that Matt Patrick Mahomes does and have said

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Speaker 1: it again. There will be one thing that keeps me

474
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Speaker 1: from believing in the Chiefs that it is mathematics.

475
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Speaker 5: From my cold, dead hand.

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Speaker 1: Charltonlest to that age, well, I will never stop believing.

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Speaker 4: Guys.

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Speaker 1: They're six and seven. I don't care if they're six

479
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Speaker 1: and eight. I don't care if they finished six and eleven.

480
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Speaker 1: I still feel like they will get in somehow. It's

481
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Speaker 1: until they're down and dead. I still will believe in them,

482
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Speaker 1: and again I want them in. I'm really bummed out

483
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Speaker 1: that they're not going to be in this, which is why.

484
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Speaker 5: I say this is the team.

485
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Speaker 4: Believe me.

486
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Speaker 1: If they win four in a row and the Chiefs

487
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Speaker 1: are in a wild card game, are you not picking

488
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Speaker 1: them to win.

489
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Speaker 5: The Super Bowl in a four game wins streak?

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Speaker 4: Of course you are.

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Speaker 3: Mike.

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Speaker 2: To your point about the production part of this, there's

493
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Speaker 2: like a research document that's based on how we build

494
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Speaker 2: our playoff graphics. And when I saw the Dolphins should

495
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Speaker 2: be the last team listed in the FC, I was

496
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Speaker 2: like what And now they've stayed there firmly. It's fantastic

497
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Speaker 2: to see we have entered the space of mathematically speaking,

498
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Speaker 2: some teams are eliminated, so we'll see how this goes

499
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Speaker 2: over the next month. Our friends over at NFL Films

500
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Speaker 2: captured this really cool moment from Steelers sideline during their

501
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Speaker 2: game against the Ravens this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Take a look and ask a question.

503
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Speaker 9: Come out, Rogers gets a staff turns play active cats

504
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Speaker 9: rolling out to the left.

505
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Speaker 4: Looking to get to the Quartery and Tony dies. Aaron

506
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Speaker 4: Rodgers paid for the Pittsburgh Steelers touchdown.

507
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Speaker 2: Started welling up when the discount double check came back.

508
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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers. We love to see it. We hadn't seen

509
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Speaker 2: it in a while. Manti, is there a celebration that

510
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Speaker 2: comes to mind when I say, oh, this one made

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Speaker 2: a return over the weekend.

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Speaker 8: This one was hard, Jamie, because defenders we don't really celebrate,

513
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Speaker 8: And so I was really the going through the archive,

514
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Speaker 8: and so I went from guys like Dawkins, but Cam

515
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Speaker 8: Chancellor was a whole era the guy.

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Speaker 4: He had this hammer.

517
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Speaker 5: Team look at a he had this hammer.

518
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Speaker 4: When he would hit somebody, he was a hammer himself.

519
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Speaker 5: He would just start pounding his.

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Speaker 9: Fists like you don't even know, you don't even have

521
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Speaker 9: to see what happened, just when you saw him do

522
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Speaker 9: that that celebration right there, Jamie, you know what had

523
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Speaker 9: just transpired, and it was a very violent hit.

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Speaker 4: I missed van Bam Cam. He probably was.

525
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Speaker 8: There's a whole bunch of characters on that legion of Bloom,

526
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Speaker 8: but the most intimidating and ferocious one was that guy

527
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Speaker 8: with the all blacked out a visor.

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Speaker 4: And that's Cam Chancellor. I had to go with the hammer.

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Speaker 7: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Mm hm listen.

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Speaker 7: There are only think about all all the music and

532
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Speaker 7: all the things that have been composed over centuries early

533
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Speaker 7: seven musical notes, which is to say that sometimes you

534
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Speaker 7: think it's just a great complex thing, but sometimes it

535
00:21:57,908 --> 00:21:59,708
Speaker 7: can be just very simple.

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Speaker 5: To me, it's the fun bunch.

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Speaker 7: It is the group celebration, the high fight and a

538
00:22:04,988 --> 00:22:06,628
Speaker 7: horrible hand that I drew right there.

539
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Speaker 5: Watch these guys get up right here.

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Speaker 7: You got a little little warm up, and I get

541
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Speaker 7: up and the ultimate celebration high five right, everybody up

542
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Speaker 7: at the same time.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

544
00:22:16,828 --> 00:22:20,788
Speaker 7: It's so simple, yet it's so beautiful and it encapsulates everything.

545
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Speaker 5: We all did this together.

546
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Speaker 7: Let's jump high, slap hands and celebrate.

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Speaker 5: That's a beautiful celebration.

548
00:22:26,948 --> 00:22:28,348
Speaker 4: Simple, yeah, you know, simple.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's on TikTok or what the

550
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Speaker 1: hell ever, but it's just simple, all right. So I

551
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Speaker 1: got to revisit an old friend and I've been campaigning

552
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Speaker 1: for this for years.

553
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Speaker 5: You know what this is.

554
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Speaker 1: This is a gentleman scoring a touchdown and doing a

555
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Speaker 1: slam dunk over the crossbar. Now, hear me out, it's

556
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Speaker 1: not allowed, and I understand why it's not allowed. It's

557
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Speaker 1: because of this Jimmy Graham, who you might have heard

558
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Speaker 1: played basketball.

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Speaker 5: One time, did it in Atlanta.

560
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Speaker 1: And he hung and he broke the crossbar and it

561
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Speaker 1: delayed the game and we can't have that. Okay, it

562
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Speaker 1: was not a good moment. However, I think there was

563
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Speaker 1: a bit of an overreaction to one incident after one

564
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Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of dollsunks where they had a level

565
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Speaker 1: out and everything, and that they said, no more dunking

566
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Speaker 1: over the crossbar, No, we can't do it. I understand

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Speaker 1: why it was said at the time. And it's been

568
00:23:13,828 --> 00:23:15,868
Speaker 1: years though, and I think it's time to revisit. It

569
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Speaker 1: is a clean, fun, contagious celebration where all football players

570
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Speaker 1: want to be basketball players. They want to show how

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Speaker 1: high they can jump. Tony Gonzalez did.

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Speaker 5: It for years. There was no problem with the crossbar.

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Speaker 5: Look at that all he has dut Clark doing it.

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Speaker 5: The titands love it.

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Speaker 1: I know one time it didn't go well, just because

576
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Speaker 1: one time doesn't mean all these times. Can we revisit this.

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Speaker 1: I know it's not exactly a priority at the annual meeting,

578
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Speaker 1: but it is a really cool celebration.

579
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Speaker 5: Please, just that's all I'm asking.

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Speaker 1: I think we overpunish and I think we overreacted as

581
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Speaker 1: a league. I'm just gonna say it, and let's just

582
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Speaker 1: make this revisit it because the dunks, guys the way

583
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Speaker 1: they can jump. Now, guys they're going to go through

584
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Speaker 1: their legs around the back. It turns into a slam

585
00:23:55,788 --> 00:23:57,788
Speaker 1: dunk contest. I'm sure Adam Silver would really like it.

586
00:23:57,948 --> 00:24:00,628
Speaker 1: Will help out our brothers and sisters, the NBA, the WNBA.

587
00:24:00,708 --> 00:24:02,508
Speaker 1: Please bring it back because I think it's just creative

588
00:24:02,548 --> 00:24:04,308
Speaker 1: and we only had one bad one hundreds of good ones.

589
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Speaker 5: That's my take.

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Speaker 2: Watching all those old clips, that actually makes me amazed

591
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Speaker 2: at how feeble the crossbar looks. I think the technology

592
00:24:11,468 --> 00:24:14,268
Speaker 2: has advanced. Maybe maybe they're sturdier structures now and it

593
00:24:14,308 --> 00:24:16,788
Speaker 2: wouldn't be so bothered if he did do the slam dunk.

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00:24:16,828 --> 00:24:17,108
Speaker 4: All right?

595
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Speaker 2: Moving on, what if you saw Dean Dawkins do that? That's

596
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Speaker 2: that's for a different day. Did you catch to Dean

597
00:24:22,508 --> 00:24:24,828
Speaker 2: Dawkins post came interery with Camwell from Sunday, The four

598
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Speaker 2: time Pro Bowl offensive tackle drops some words of wisdom

599
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Speaker 2: on us.

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Speaker 1: Don't be in a rush to get older, stay young,

601
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Speaker 1: keep the kid mindset while.

602
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Speaker 5: Being a man.

603
00:24:37,908 --> 00:24:39,388
Speaker 3: Don't be in a rush to get older.

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Speaker 2: What is something from your childhood that you wish you

605
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Speaker 2: could still do as an adult man.

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Speaker 8: Well, so we all strive to be successful in our lives, right,

607
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Speaker 8: and I think that goes for all four of us.

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Speaker 8: And I think sometimes the success and what we what

609
00:24:53,988 --> 00:24:56,308
Speaker 8: we kind of achieved from the success, kind of robs

610
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Speaker 8: us of appreciating the simpler things. I got a Sizzler

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Speaker 8: little logo here. I remember when I was little man,

612
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Speaker 8: going to Sisslor was a big deal. I remember going

613
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Speaker 8: there and my pops in would say, Hey, you're gonna

614
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Speaker 8: go to Kitty the little Kitty slid bar and having

615
00:25:09,588 --> 00:25:13,108
Speaker 8: those like little chicken dino nuggets like that was such.

616
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Speaker 8: It was such an accomplishment for us to go there

617
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Speaker 8: and going to places like fun Factory and like the

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Speaker 8: sound of the ice cream truck going down the street.

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Speaker 4: Now that I'm older, and now.

620
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Speaker 8: That I've accomplished a lot of things as we all have,

621
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Speaker 8: it doesn't I don't appreciate those things like I did

622
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Speaker 8: when I was younger. So all for the kids back

623
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Speaker 8: home wherever you are, appreciate the small things like going out,

624
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Speaker 8: having a good time with your family, going to occasions

625
00:25:38,068 --> 00:25:40,188
Speaker 8: like this, because as you get older. Unfortunately for me,

626
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Speaker 8: I was at this skating rink the other day and

627
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Speaker 8: I just like, man, I remember the days where I

628
00:25:44,108 --> 00:25:46,428
Speaker 8: would just die to come to this thing. As a

629
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Speaker 8: thirty four year old, I'm just like, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, can we go home? Can we go home? Now?

631
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Speaker 4: So appreciate the simple things. Mike, gee, that's what I got.

632
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Speaker 1: Many listen you hitting differently, and Mike, I know you

633
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Speaker 1: understand this. Those commercials for Sizzler, like they would they

634
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Speaker 1: would actually have the sizzle of the steak on the grill.

635
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Speaker 5: And I think it was the females she would.

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Speaker 1: Go Sizzler, Oh wow, I want to go to CISL,

637
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Speaker 1: I get some steak, And then a white man can't jump.

638
00:26:10,708 --> 00:26:11,988
Speaker 5: Through and we're going to Cis.

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Speaker 10: We're going It was, it was awesome, It was I

640
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Speaker 10: loved that. I want to go to whist I whispering

641
00:26:19,828 --> 00:26:25,428
Speaker 10: in our ears. Something else is sisling, I find myself.

642
00:26:25,708 --> 00:26:28,308
Speaker 10: And Mat said, this feeds right into what you're talking about.

643
00:26:28,588 --> 00:26:31,348
Speaker 10: Stuff the kids don't appreciate or think is like the

644
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Speaker 10: worst thing ever, and it winds up being the best.

645
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Speaker 5: Thing ever to them.

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Speaker 7: And I'm also in that mode where I'm starting to

647
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Speaker 7: say things to my kids that my parents used to

648
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Speaker 7: say to me.

649
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Speaker 5: I would love to just.

650
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Speaker 4: Go to school, right, Like, go to school.

651
00:26:42,428 --> 00:26:45,988
Speaker 7: Think about how great school was, right, it just proved

652
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Speaker 7: Look at this, look at that.

653
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Speaker 5: I mean, you've got nothing to do.

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00:26:48,548 --> 00:26:51,828
Speaker 7: You don't have a mortgage to pay you, you don't

655
00:26:51,868 --> 00:26:54,468
Speaker 7: have to worry about car insurance, which I had to

656
00:26:54,588 --> 00:26:56,788
Speaker 7: yesterday when I was trying to park the car and

657
00:26:56,868 --> 00:27:00,068
Speaker 7: drown right into the piling. Yeah, you don't have to

658
00:27:00,068 --> 00:27:03,468
Speaker 7: worry about that at school at all. Your social calendar

659
00:27:03,668 --> 00:27:06,028
Speaker 7: was always full, right, Yeah you hear are your friends?

660
00:27:06,068 --> 00:27:07,908
Speaker 7: Everybody's just right there in front of your face. You

661
00:27:07,908 --> 00:27:10,228
Speaker 7: want to play a game, Go play a game after school,

662
00:27:10,268 --> 00:27:11,988
Speaker 7: after you've done your working and go play some football

663
00:27:12,068 --> 00:27:14,548
Speaker 7: or basketball, or run cross country, do whatever you want.

664
00:27:14,588 --> 00:27:15,228
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

665
00:27:15,468 --> 00:27:18,868
Speaker 7: And here's the best part talking about me hitting the piloting.

666
00:27:18,548 --> 00:27:19,588
Speaker 4: While I was driving yesterday.

667
00:27:19,628 --> 00:27:21,628
Speaker 5: They would pick you up in the morning and then

668
00:27:21,668 --> 00:27:23,668
Speaker 5: take you back at the end of the day.

669
00:27:23,828 --> 00:27:24,868
Speaker 4: It was so amazing.

670
00:27:24,948 --> 00:27:28,628
Speaker 7: Kids, you don't appreciate how easy school is in comparison to.

671
00:27:28,668 --> 00:27:30,788
Speaker 5: I don't know, real life. I'd love to go back

672
00:27:30,788 --> 00:27:31,188
Speaker 5: to school.

673
00:27:31,268 --> 00:27:34,028
Speaker 1: I know those imagine being those girls in that stock

674
00:27:34,028 --> 00:27:36,108
Speaker 1: photo we're just using there an NFL network this morning,

675
00:27:36,108 --> 00:27:37,348
Speaker 1: But what are their Their parents are.

676
00:27:37,188 --> 00:27:37,708
Speaker 4: Turning it on.

677
00:27:37,908 --> 00:27:39,308
Speaker 1: But those girls like that, they don't have a care

678
00:27:39,308 --> 00:27:41,468
Speaker 1: in the world, like they're they're choosing chat ram crackers

679
00:27:41,548 --> 00:27:42,028
Speaker 1: or cookies.

680
00:27:42,148 --> 00:27:44,028
Speaker 5: Idea. I don't know who those children aren't. You don't

681
00:27:44,028 --> 00:27:46,348
Speaker 5: know those children, right, No, somebody to look happy here

682
00:27:46,388 --> 00:27:46,788
Speaker 5: that morning.

683
00:27:47,308 --> 00:27:49,668
Speaker 1: Oh look at those little baretts over there. It's beautiful,

684
00:27:49,828 --> 00:27:52,468
Speaker 1: that is true, Mike. It's it's not a lot of

685
00:27:52,508 --> 00:27:54,348
Speaker 1: worries right there, Larrey. It looks some kind of assembly.

686
00:27:54,428 --> 00:27:56,588
Speaker 1: They're all sitting crisscrossing apple cross or what we used

687
00:27:56,588 --> 00:27:58,908
Speaker 1: to call it. All right, So I mine as simple

688
00:27:58,908 --> 00:28:01,628
Speaker 1: and minus relatable. I probably to all of us. What

689
00:28:01,748 --> 00:28:03,548
Speaker 1: I wish I could do like I did as a kid.

690
00:28:03,988 --> 00:28:06,548
Speaker 1: I wish I could eat with impunity. Now, what does

691
00:28:06,548 --> 00:28:09,108
Speaker 1: impunity means. It means with no ramifications, you could eat

692
00:28:09,148 --> 00:28:13,228
Speaker 1: anything you want. You could have Little Caesars pizza, the

693
00:28:13,388 --> 00:28:16,108
Speaker 1: entire thing, an entire cart and of ice cream and

694
00:28:16,268 --> 00:28:19,028
Speaker 1: just be shredded twisted steel the next day. There's this

695
00:28:19,108 --> 00:28:22,308
Speaker 1: thing now with kids where like children aren't allowed to

696
00:28:22,428 --> 00:28:25,148
Speaker 1: leave the house without a bottle of water.

697
00:28:25,268 --> 00:28:27,828
Speaker 5: I don't know when this started. Oh, bring your water bottle,

698
00:28:27,868 --> 00:28:28,668
Speaker 5: Bring your water bottle.

699
00:28:28,908 --> 00:28:30,988
Speaker 1: I think there were like three month periods in my

700
00:28:31,028 --> 00:28:32,668
Speaker 1: youth I never had a sip of water.

701
00:28:32,748 --> 00:28:33,988
Speaker 5: I was surviving.

702
00:28:33,668 --> 00:28:37,788
Speaker 1: Solely on Ecdo cooler and Hawaiian punch. The only water

703
00:28:37,828 --> 00:28:39,548
Speaker 1: I had was maybe out of the water fountain for

704
00:28:39,548 --> 00:28:42,828
Speaker 1: a few seconds after gym class. All of that, just

705
00:28:42,908 --> 00:28:47,228
Speaker 1: drink sodas and juice, so many juices and cokes and sweets.

706
00:28:47,268 --> 00:28:49,508
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about into my teens and twenties to

707
00:28:49,548 --> 00:28:53,308
Speaker 1: seat anything. Now, I don't know if you guys have

708
00:28:53,348 --> 00:28:55,508
Speaker 1: heard of this, this thing called peppermint bark. If I have

709
00:28:55,628 --> 00:28:58,188
Speaker 1: one nibble of it, I get sixteen pounds and I'm

710
00:28:58,188 --> 00:28:59,388
Speaker 1: popping a button on TV.

711
00:28:59,748 --> 00:29:00,708
Speaker 4: I hate it so much.

712
00:29:00,828 --> 00:29:03,028
Speaker 1: I want to eat the whole ten, especially the Trader

713
00:29:03,108 --> 00:29:04,108
Speaker 1: Joe's peppermint Bark.

714
00:29:04,388 --> 00:29:06,428
Speaker 5: I'm sinner, eating like an idiot, Like I have.

715
00:29:06,548 --> 00:29:08,788
Speaker 1: Half an orange for breakfast because if I don't, I

716
00:29:08,828 --> 00:29:11,148
Speaker 1: can't sew up in profile and TV or I'm bulging

717
00:29:11,228 --> 00:29:11,708
Speaker 1: over the belt.

718
00:29:11,908 --> 00:29:12,468
Speaker 4: I hate it.

719
00:29:12,548 --> 00:29:13,868
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the way it used

720
00:29:13,908 --> 00:29:15,148
Speaker 1: to be and live on Hawaiian punch.

721
00:29:15,188 --> 00:29:15,828
Speaker 5: That's all I say.

722
00:29:17,028 --> 00:29:19,428
Speaker 2: One of the things that I personally to be very

723
00:29:19,548 --> 00:29:21,988
Speaker 2: entertained by when we work together every day was like

724
00:29:22,228 --> 00:29:25,508
Speaker 2: every August with without fail, you would show up.

725
00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:28,028
Speaker 3: In the New York studio and you'd be like, yeah,

726
00:29:28,068 --> 00:29:29,148
Speaker 3: the time off was great.

727
00:29:29,188 --> 00:29:31,508
Speaker 2: But like I had so many chip baskets like you

728
00:29:31,588 --> 00:29:33,988
Speaker 2: just you just love a chip basket, and like I

729
00:29:33,988 --> 00:29:35,068
Speaker 2: get to see you every August.

730
00:29:35,068 --> 00:29:36,468
Speaker 3: Now you come out to LA and like.

731
00:29:36,708 --> 00:29:38,948
Speaker 2: I hear you, my friend, the chip basket is your

732
00:29:38,948 --> 00:29:40,988
Speaker 2: achilles heel. You might be having an issue with the

733
00:29:41,028 --> 00:29:43,388
Speaker 2: holiday bark, but you are mister chip basket. And if

734
00:29:43,428 --> 00:29:45,388
Speaker 2: you could eat those of impunity, I know that would

735
00:29:45,388 --> 00:29:46,508
Speaker 2: be one of your five levels.

736
00:29:46,548 --> 00:29:47,028
Speaker 4: KBKB.

737
00:29:47,108 --> 00:29:49,428
Speaker 1: I gotta say, bro, Jamie's bottomless. They bring it back

738
00:29:49,468 --> 00:29:50,708
Speaker 1: after you finish it, and the new one that they

739
00:29:50,788 --> 00:29:53,988
Speaker 1: bring is warm, yes, and just under a hot lamb.

740
00:29:54,028 --> 00:29:54,948
Speaker 1: What am I supposed to do?

741
00:29:55,028 --> 00:29:56,348
Speaker 5: Not eat it? Come on?

742
00:29:56,468 --> 00:29:57,068
Speaker 4: I hate it?

743
00:29:57,148 --> 00:29:57,628
Speaker 9: I hate it.

744
00:29:58,708 --> 00:30:01,028
Speaker 8: Memories, bro it was I remember as a kid used

745
00:30:01,068 --> 00:30:02,828
Speaker 8: to eat those meals and then your grandparents was like,

746
00:30:02,868 --> 00:30:03,868
Speaker 8: you gotta wait thirty minutes.

747
00:30:03,868 --> 00:30:05,948
Speaker 4: Now is in a out? I'm like, do I got

748
00:30:06,228 --> 00:30:07,428
Speaker 4: Can I just lay down? Like?

749
00:30:07,948 --> 00:30:09,308
Speaker 8: Do I have to go out for a walk with

750
00:30:09,308 --> 00:30:11,108
Speaker 8: the kids after? I just ate this big meal like

751
00:30:11,188 --> 00:30:12,908
Speaker 8: it's it's it's As a kid, I was like, let

752
00:30:12,908 --> 00:30:14,508
Speaker 8: me go, let me run, let me play, let me

753
00:30:14,508 --> 00:30:15,188
Speaker 8: do all these things.

754
00:30:15,228 --> 00:30:17,708
Speaker 3: Nowadays, nah, then you get a side ache.

755
00:30:17,748 --> 00:30:19,708
Speaker 2: I like the chip baskets that come in the sombrero

756
00:30:19,748 --> 00:30:21,508
Speaker 2: and they bring on the table their sauce in the

757
00:30:21,508 --> 00:30:22,108
Speaker 2: middle of bit.

758
00:30:22,188 --> 00:30:24,068
Speaker 3: It's all good chee cheese, sizzler.

759
00:30:24,228 --> 00:30:25,868
Speaker 4: It's okay, we're hungry.

760
00:30:27,268 --> 00:30:30,628
Speaker 2: Ye next August when your post chip basket season, Kyle.

761
00:30:31,108 --> 00:30:31,228
Speaker 4: Uh.

762
00:30:31,348 --> 00:30:33,948
Speaker 2: And let's bring this back as well, A happy, hearty

763
00:30:34,028 --> 00:30:35,428
Speaker 2: memory of slam dunks.

764
00:30:35,148 --> 00:30:35,788
Speaker 4: Over the cross too.

765
00:30:35,868 --> 00:30:40,068
Speaker 5: Oh, let's go let them dunk, let them dunk. It's ridiculous.

766
00:30:40,108 --> 00:30:42,348
Speaker 1: Now the reference is there, and if they touch the crossbar,

767
00:30:42,388 --> 00:30:46,268
Speaker 1: it's a penalty. If they don't, what's they making it

768
00:30:46,268 --> 00:30:48,508
Speaker 1: a little easier on the officials, like it's it's we're

769
00:30:48,508 --> 00:30:50,708
Speaker 1: splitting hairs here with the semantics and the tunkey let

770
00:30:50,708 --> 00:30:51,188
Speaker 1: them dunk.

771
00:30:54,468 --> 00:30:56,948
Speaker 8: Last week the Panthers had their bye, but in Week

772
00:30:57,028 --> 00:30:59,548
Speaker 8: thirteen against the number one team in the NFC, the

773
00:30:59,588 --> 00:31:03,188
Speaker 8: Los Angeles Rams, Rice Young and them boys from Carolina

774
00:31:03,268 --> 00:31:06,708
Speaker 8: put on a show. The young franchise quarterback completed seventy

775
00:31:06,708 --> 00:31:09,028
Speaker 8: five percent of his passes for over two hundred yards

776
00:31:09,108 --> 00:31:12,948
Speaker 8: passing and three touchdowns, resulting in a career high one

777
00:31:13,068 --> 00:31:16,428
Speaker 8: hundred and forty seven point one passer rating, adding another

778
00:31:16,508 --> 00:31:19,988
Speaker 8: strong performance to his twenty twenty five campaign. But not

779
00:31:20,068 --> 00:31:24,068
Speaker 8: too long ago, the narrative surrounding the number one overall pick.

780
00:31:24,388 --> 00:31:27,508
Speaker 4: Wasn't as promising. Back in twenty twenty three.

781
00:31:27,348 --> 00:31:30,508
Speaker 8: The Carolina Panthers traded up to get the former Heisman

782
00:31:30,588 --> 00:31:35,028
Speaker 8: Trophy winner with the number one overall pick the Houston Texans,

783
00:31:35,028 --> 00:31:35,988
Speaker 8: which select CJ.

784
00:31:36,108 --> 00:31:37,228
Speaker 4: Stroud right after him.

785
00:31:37,668 --> 00:31:41,588
Speaker 8: What transpired that season for both rookie quarterbacks couldn't be

786
00:31:41,628 --> 00:31:44,628
Speaker 8: more different. Bryce Young would go on to have the

787
00:31:44,668 --> 00:31:48,828
Speaker 8: lowest passer rating amongst all qualified quarterbacks that year. C

788
00:31:49,028 --> 00:31:52,748
Speaker 8: J Stroud Well he would win the NFL Offensive Rookie

789
00:31:52,788 --> 00:31:55,388
Speaker 8: of the Year. Bryce and the Panthers would have the

790
00:31:55,428 --> 00:31:58,108
Speaker 8: worst record that season, while CJ led detections to the

791
00:31:58,148 --> 00:32:00,268
Speaker 8: playoff as expected.

792
00:32:00,508 --> 00:32:02,188
Speaker 4: This started a storm of narratives.

793
00:32:02,468 --> 00:32:05,308
Speaker 8: People started to question everything regarding Bryce Young, from his

794
00:32:05,388 --> 00:32:08,268
Speaker 8: height so the hypotheticals of what it could have been

795
00:32:08,348 --> 00:32:10,388
Speaker 8: if the Panthers drafted Strout instead.

796
00:32:10,948 --> 00:32:12,028
Speaker 4: But it wouldn't stop there.

797
00:32:12,708 --> 00:32:15,308
Speaker 8: In the first two weeks of the following season, Bryce

798
00:32:15,348 --> 00:32:19,988
Speaker 8: Young would throw three interceptions and zero touchdowns. Newly appointed

799
00:32:20,028 --> 00:32:22,788
Speaker 8: head coach Dave Kanalis would bench the former first round

800
00:32:22,788 --> 00:32:27,068
Speaker 8: pick for Andy Dalton for the next six games. All

801
00:32:27,068 --> 00:32:31,828
Speaker 8: Bryce could do was sit, watch and cheer, and then

802
00:32:31,868 --> 00:32:34,588
Speaker 8: we eight king when Bryce Young would get his shot

803
00:32:34,628 --> 00:32:36,508
Speaker 8: at redemption, and boy.

804
00:32:36,348 --> 00:32:37,708
Speaker 4: Did he redeem himself.

805
00:32:38,468 --> 00:32:41,748
Speaker 8: Since Week eight of that last year, Bryce Young leads

806
00:32:41,788 --> 00:32:45,628
Speaker 8: the NFL with nine game winning drives this year, He's

807
00:32:45,668 --> 00:32:48,868
Speaker 8: already had career highs while breaking the franchise record for

808
00:32:49,028 --> 00:32:53,188
Speaker 8: passing yards in the game, and he's still getting better.

809
00:32:53,708 --> 00:32:56,948
Speaker 8: He has one of two quarterbacks in NFL history to

810
00:32:56,988 --> 00:33:02,988
Speaker 8: improve in four key gap categories over three seasons, winning percentage, completion,

811
00:33:03,148 --> 00:33:07,828
Speaker 8: percentage passing, and sack rate. The only other quarterback to

812
00:33:07,988 --> 00:33:12,388
Speaker 8: achieve such a thing, Josh Allen. How's that for a

813
00:33:12,428 --> 00:33:13,068
Speaker 8: major comeback?

814
00:33:13,108 --> 00:33:13,428
Speaker 4: Story?

815
00:33:13,628 --> 00:33:17,388
Speaker 8: To the table too a table, Mike g I'm gonna

816
00:33:17,388 --> 00:33:20,268
Speaker 8: start with you first, brother. Obviously, here on GIMFB, we've

817
00:33:20,308 --> 00:33:23,268
Speaker 8: been really high on the Carolina Panthers with where they're

818
00:33:23,268 --> 00:33:25,628
Speaker 8: at right now and with the loss of the Bucks

819
00:33:25,668 --> 00:33:28,588
Speaker 8: had against the Saints, they're currently tied across the board

820
00:33:28,628 --> 00:33:30,868
Speaker 8: in the NFC South. How do you see this playing

821
00:33:30,868 --> 00:33:32,428
Speaker 8: with how the Panthers are playing right now?

822
00:33:33,668 --> 00:33:36,308
Speaker 7: The longer the Bucks let him hang around, the more

823
00:33:36,388 --> 00:33:39,068
Speaker 7: confidence grows, and the more that the confidence in the

824
00:33:39,148 --> 00:33:41,788
Speaker 7: quarterback grows. I got to tell you, Bryce Young, through

825
00:33:41,828 --> 00:33:43,708
Speaker 7: the first couple of years of his career, has had

826
00:33:43,708 --> 00:33:47,788
Speaker 7: some moments that could have absolutely broken him. His mental

827
00:33:47,828 --> 00:33:51,668
Speaker 7: toughness has manifested itself over and over again.

828
00:33:51,708 --> 00:33:53,348
Speaker 4: And now you're in a point where.

829
00:33:53,348 --> 00:33:55,108
Speaker 7: First of all, you got a head coach that believes

830
00:33:55,108 --> 00:33:57,188
Speaker 7: in him and does everything he can to support him

831
00:33:57,188 --> 00:33:58,188
Speaker 7: and make him successful.

832
00:33:58,268 --> 00:33:59,108
Speaker 4: That helps.

833
00:33:59,428 --> 00:34:01,828
Speaker 5: And also once you get for the second.

834
00:34:01,548 --> 00:34:03,628
Speaker 4: Year in a row, once you get to a point

835
00:34:03,628 --> 00:34:04,028
Speaker 4: where you go.

836
00:34:04,468 --> 00:34:06,588
Speaker 7: I don't care how bad the first half of the

837
00:34:06,628 --> 00:34:08,988
Speaker 7: season was. We can get this thing together and we

838
00:34:09,028 --> 00:34:11,868
Speaker 7: can play with confidence down the stretch. You start to

839
00:34:11,908 --> 00:34:14,148
Speaker 7: do that, you start to stack those seasons. Now you

840
00:34:14,188 --> 00:34:15,708
Speaker 7: gotta get out of the gate better, which is what

841
00:34:15,788 --> 00:34:17,188
Speaker 7: I thought the Panthers were going to do this year,

842
00:34:17,188 --> 00:34:19,748
Speaker 7: and they wound up not doing it. But I love

843
00:34:19,828 --> 00:34:23,468
Speaker 7: that aspect of Bryce Young, that mental toughness for a

844
00:34:23,508 --> 00:34:26,428
Speaker 7: guy that was thrust into the spotlight, did not go well,

845
00:34:26,628 --> 00:34:28,908
Speaker 7: had a bunch of different head coaches and coordinators to

846
00:34:28,948 --> 00:34:32,308
Speaker 7: start his NFL career, and now seemingly has found himself

847
00:34:32,348 --> 00:34:32,748
Speaker 7: once again.

848
00:34:32,828 --> 00:34:33,228
Speaker 4: I love it.

849
00:34:33,628 --> 00:34:35,268
Speaker 5: I love that we're talking about it.

850
00:34:35,508 --> 00:34:37,748
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, it makes me think of Keegan Michael Key

851
00:34:38,228 --> 00:34:40,628
Speaker 1: two years ago at NFL Honors. He was the host

852
00:34:40,628 --> 00:34:43,308
Speaker 1: and he's doing his monologue and the Panthers had just

853
00:34:43,348 --> 00:34:46,068
Speaker 1: gone two and fifteen, and he included like just a

854
00:34:46,228 --> 00:34:48,988
Speaker 1: straight stray, as they would call it, potshot at how

855
00:34:49,028 --> 00:34:50,828
Speaker 1: far the Panthers are from the Super Bowl, and.

856
00:34:50,748 --> 00:34:51,828
Speaker 5: Everybody laughed and everything.

857
00:34:52,148 --> 00:34:54,228
Speaker 1: Dave Canalis had just gotten the job and tweeted something

858
00:34:54,348 --> 00:34:56,028
Speaker 1: he was going to remember that joke, and everyone was

859
00:34:56,028 --> 00:34:57,588
Speaker 1: like all right, Dave, go ahead. It's kind of a

860
00:34:57,628 --> 00:35:00,428
Speaker 1: silly joke. Then he goes to five to twelve, and

861
00:35:00,468 --> 00:35:03,108
Speaker 1: now he's an over five hundred. It's an incredible, incredible thing,

862
00:35:03,148 --> 00:35:05,548
Speaker 1: and I am rooting for the Panthers openly because it's fun.

863
00:35:05,708 --> 00:35:08,108
Speaker 1: As far as Bryce Young, Matt, I have something I

864
00:35:08,148 --> 00:35:09,508
Speaker 1: call the third and nine test.

865
00:35:10,068 --> 00:35:11,068
Speaker 4: It's a huge game.

866
00:35:11,228 --> 00:35:13,308
Speaker 1: You're down by four, there's under a minute to go.

867
00:35:13,468 --> 00:35:15,468
Speaker 1: It's a third and nine in the playoffs or in

868
00:35:15,508 --> 00:35:17,868
Speaker 1: a game to make the playoffs. Can you close your

869
00:35:18,068 --> 00:35:20,548
Speaker 1: close your eyes and imagine Bryce Young throwing a dart

870
00:35:20,588 --> 00:35:22,428
Speaker 1: across the middle to move the chains on third and

871
00:35:22,548 --> 00:35:23,908
Speaker 1: nine and save the team.

872
00:35:24,348 --> 00:35:25,108
Speaker 5: I don't know yet.

873
00:35:25,508 --> 00:35:27,228
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say yes for the sake of the

874
00:35:27,228 --> 00:35:28,108
Speaker 1: goodwill of the segment.

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Speaker 5: I don't know yet, and I'm gonna figure. I think

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Speaker 5: we'll know in the next month.

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Speaker 4: I can well, it's amazing. Yeah.

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Speaker 8: Well, to Kb's point, we've seen it against the Rams,

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Speaker 8: but then the week previous, ye, we saw what he did.

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Speaker 4: Against the Niners.

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Speaker 8: And so to that point, it's the consistent consistency across

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Speaker 8: the board.

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Speaker 4: For the Carolina Panthers that has always been the question.

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Speaker 8: But If they can continue to do what they've been

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Speaker 8: doing at least the last game against the Rams, major

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Speaker 8: things could have for the Carolina Panthers, and I'm excited

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Speaker 8: to see what they can do, hopefully making a push

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Speaker 8: into the playoffs,