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Speaker 2: Hell that for me. I'm a man, I'm for it.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 2: It is c FP semi final week, my friend, it

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Speaker 3: Is that address, Dan Rubisteed?

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Speaker 2: You got it? Good to go?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I absolutely have it. And I know you wanted

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Speaker 1: the floor to talk about how, like, hey, in previous

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Speaker 1: iterations of a postseason, Oregon would be right there in

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Speaker 1: they're getting just screwed by the timing of it all.

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Speaker 1: And I thought that was fascinating that you were the

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Speaker 1: if we were in a fourteen world, Oregon would be

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Speaker 1: in a great place. Obviously a BCS world just beat

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Speaker 1: where there is no BCS or four team twelve team playoff,

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Speaker 1: Organs probably just coasting. And I don't take that tac

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Speaker 1: ty as sad and bitter a homer I am. I

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Speaker 1: was surprised that you were like, give me just a

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Speaker 1: So I guess whenever you're ready, Tie, Yeah, I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: This is why you want to go back to the

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Speaker 2: four team system right here, this is why Oregon. You're

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Speaker 1: First of all, anybody that knows me, Tie has long

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Speaker 1: known I'm afraid of competition. I want to be handed

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Speaker 1: things on a silver platter. Tie, who among us?

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Speaker 1: Here, here is the actual reality. We've got two fascinating

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Speaker 1: the what could have should have been Jacuzzi for very

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Speaker 1: much longer. But alas, let's talk football.

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Speaker 3: Time of the week.

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Speaker 2: We've got games on Thursday and Friday this week, which

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Speaker 2: all again for tuning back in. The Thursday game is

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Speaker 2: the Capitol One Orange Bowl. It is between thirteen and

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Speaker 2: going to be Sean McDonough and Greg McElroy. Again, great

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Speaker 2: three straight rounds now of McDonough and McElroy calling the

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame or the Notre Dame game. Excuse me now

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Speaker 2: in this case Notre Dame versus Penn State. So yes,

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Speaker 2: over the last few weeks. Notre Dame got here by

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and not many more teams before that, of consequence,

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Speaker 1: And I thought that's where you were going, right, that

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Speaker 2: My first thought was, even before I started going through

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Speaker 1: I mean, my lean is Penn State, and that's what

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Speaker 2: Sure you can.

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Speaker 1: Say, like, okay, there is a skill to Notre Dame

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Speaker 3: Why did they care?

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Speaker 2: Guilty is charged. I am the reason why all right,

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Speaker 2: there are strong Notre Dame influences. Look up this part

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame fan. But I was not smart enough. As

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Speaker 2: I have a diploma hanging up on my wall. Oh

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Speaker 2: upstairs from the Pennsylvania State University. I've got a Beaver

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Speaker 2: Penn State. This is the reason why I have two teams.

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Speaker 2: I have competing interests. Most of the time they're not competing.

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Speaker 2: With the exception of the Orange Bowl this week, To

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame doesn't claim you, and Penn State doesn't claim

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Speaker 1: neither one claims there's a college football orphan, Yes, and

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Speaker 1: here we are, Like, you're the Jordan Addison of college football, right,

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Speaker 2: I'm just being honest with people here. It is ultimately

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Speaker 2: a show about honesty. I am thrilled personally, of course,

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Speaker 2: I am because I do root for both. As weird

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Speaker 2: this one here is really difficult for me to be

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Speaker 2: objective about. I am doing my best to treat it

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Speaker 2: like any other game. I'm not doing reverse jinks one

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Speaker 2: the Notre Dame defense and that push pull okay, which

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Speaker 2: I can fully unpack here over the however many next

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Speaker 1: I swear one one final? Because this is about you, Ty.

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Speaker 1: Let's be clear, as everybody watching this game is eventually

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Speaker 1: going to find out. This game comes down to Ty Hildebrand.

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Speaker 1: Of course, so you've said before, Notre Dame is your team.

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Speaker 1: You love Penn State, but Notre Dame is your team,

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Speaker 1: unless I'm phrasing that incorrectly.

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Speaker 2: I was born and raised Notre Dame. Notre Dame is

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Speaker 2: still sort of the ad team, right, okay, but went

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Speaker 2: to Penn State. I you know, I root for Penn

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Speaker 2: State two.

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Speaker 1: But as anybody knows who's watched a game like this

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Speaker 1: and you just you know, this isn't that situation for you?

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Speaker 1: Once the game kicks off, can you lock in on,

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Speaker 1: We need to get like some sort of electric collar

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Speaker 2: The very last time that I saw Penn Stadium, Notre

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Speaker 2: Best quarterback that Notre Dame's played, It's the best running

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Speaker 2: It looked exactly like it has most of the season.

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Speaker 3: What's the plan for Tyler Warren? What's the plan?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is not a new question for anybody who

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four, it just didn't It's.

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Speaker 1: Definitely.

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Speaker 2: So that's my first question, and then my second question

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Speaker 2: That's sort of been a thing the last two years

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Speaker 1: Also, a couple drops deep against Boise State downfield for

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Speaker 2: Yeah, completely agree. I do think pens Notre Dame's going

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Speaker 1: Drew Aler very good against the blitz this year, fifth

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, exactly. So I think those are my two

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Speaker 2: I think the game plan is going to be very similar.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if any of the questions are different. Dan,

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Speaker 2: If I said it once, I'll say it a thousandth

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a pretty good chance that something like that

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Speaker 1: Okay, you didn't really touch on any of the things

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Speaker 2: Great, where are you at?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So injuries, star power, abdul Carter has been posting

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean the best thing to me that Penn State

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Speaker 1: That's the best thing that I think Penn State does

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I think it is abdul Carter over

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Speaker 1: I mean to be like, if he's not the nation's

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Speaker 1: so his health meaningful. Jeremiah Love's health is the best

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Speaker 1: thing that Notre Dame does. Is what they look like

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Speaker 1: get the ball to Jeremiah Love who is in a

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Speaker 1: knee brace.

437
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Speaker 2: He's in a knee brace, and to your point, he

438
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Speaker 2: is their biggest explosion threat. Yes, he is their home

439
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:02,640
Speaker 2: run hitter. Yeah.

440
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Okay, So maybe their defense, I think collectively is

441
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 1: the more lethal element of Notre Dame than Jeremiah Love

442
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 1: because they can succeed without him. The other thing here

443
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: is both of these teams, in their biggest games against

444
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 1: the best defenses that they each played, combined to go

445
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,600
Speaker 1: on zero offensive touchdown drives and guess what they're playing

446
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: against each other, which I mean, somebody has to win.

447
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Speaker 3: Someone's got to win.

448
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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the question that that begets is who do

449
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 1: you trust more if they're both not moving the ball?

450
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,240
Speaker 1: If it's Harry, if it's fifteen thirteen with seven and

451
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: a half left, when there is that like time out,

452
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Speaker 1: go for it on fourth and four. If like, if

453
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Speaker 1: we're stacking big decisions in the fourth quarter, are you

454
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 1: a James Franklin late game believer? Are you a Marcus

455
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: Freeman fifteen to thirteen late GameLine?

456
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Speaker 2: I'm getting heart palsch's thinking.

457
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Speaker 1: Of I know that's meaningful to me. I think one

458
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Speaker 1: of these teams, if not both of these teams is

459
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Speaker 1: going to go on a successful offensive touchdown drive. But

460
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Speaker 1: we didn't see it from Penn State against Ohio State

461
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 1: by far the best defense they played, and we didn't

462
00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,399
Speaker 1: see it last week with Notre Dame against Georgia. Not

463
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,199
Speaker 1: a knock specifically, it's much more of a knock on

464
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Speaker 1: Georgia that you can't beat a team when allowing them

465
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Speaker 1: no legitimate offensive touchdown drives, because Notre Dame took advantage

466
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Speaker 1: of opportunities and close that game incredibly well.

467
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Speaker 2: So we're not talking about the play action pass to

468
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Speaker 2: Bo Collins. We're talking about a sustained touchdown drive.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was at a twelve yard drive. It was

470
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Speaker 1: a twelve yard drive, right, That's not a drive to

471
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Speaker 1: me that is.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, okay, I'm just taking it.

473
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Speaker 1: Taking advantage of an ideal situation that you, yourself, with

474
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Speaker 1: a strip sack, are responsible for. That was a great

475
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Speaker 1: team moment for Notre Dame. But when given the opportunity

476
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Speaker 1: to move the ball forty to fifty sixty seventy eighty

477
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: yards to the end zone, that wasn't where Notre Dame

478
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: was successful necessarily. Again, when you're clonkers, and offensively, I

479
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,119
Speaker 1: wouldn't even call it a clonker for Notre Dame, but

480
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: in terms of finishing drives, there were elements of that.

481
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Speaker 1: So who do you trust?

482
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Speaker 2: Right?

483
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Speaker 1: Who do you trust if it is low scoring, if.

484
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 2: You are out of another Ashanti game? Baby, Yes, And

485
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Speaker 2: I think.

486
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Speaker 1: I give the slide edge to Notre Dame there just

487
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: because of Riley Leonard if it is that kind of game.

488
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Speaker 1: But I can't shake my worldview, and maybe it's because

489
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: I just watched Jeremiah Smith drive Oregon into the ground.

490
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: I can't shake my worldview that you need something explosive

491
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:43,160
Speaker 1: in this scenario. And there is more about Penn State

492
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Speaker 1: that I trust, especially with Jeremiah Love nicked up with

493
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: k Tron Allen and how he got loose. Granted, perhaps

494
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: the Boise State defense not championship caliber. Nick Singleton's explosive

495
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 1: ability both in the backfield and through the air we

496
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Speaker 1: saw it against Oregon, that I give that advantage to

497
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Speaker 1: Penn State that if this game is simmed one hundred times,

498
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 1: I feel like they are able to generate more downfield

499
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,479
Speaker 1: more often seventy one of those hundred games, and I

500
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: can't shake that I give that edge to Penn State.

501
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 1: What's worrisome to me is what did I call it

502
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: the two Q to'clock for James Franklin. Yeah, do not

503
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: waste a huge moment. You're like, oh, we've got something

504
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: for this, Oh we got something spicy. No, no, no, no,

505
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Speaker 1: Kate tron Allen is great. That's spicy in its own way.

506
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 1: Kate tront Allen Wright is spicy enough on fourth and

507
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: inches or you know, Tyler Warren in the flat for

508
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: a you know, a yard and a half when you

509
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,800
Speaker 1: need a half is great. Sees get degrees. And so

510
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 1: I hesitate to fully put the weight of my very

511
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,960
Speaker 1: important and influential pick behind Penn State, given you know,

512
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: huge game moments for for James Franklin and Penn State.

513
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: But I can't shake the world that Penn State is

514
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: closer to having the Winter Wonder experience with those backs

515
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: healthy ish with Tyler Warren, with Amari Evans. Speed hasn't

516
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: been consistently a huge factor for Penn States. Has grown

517
00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: with the offense, he's grown at the offense, he has

518
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: grown with it. Yeah, that's where I give that edge,

519
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,159
Speaker 1: And there is there's also and this is purely speculative

520
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 1: and emotional that like Penn State, beating Boise State doesn't

521
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: have them relieved, doesn't have them feeling like they got

522
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: over some hurdle that they could never get over.

523
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: Let down.

524
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Speaker 1: You're talking letdowns, I'm talking Obviously Notre Dame is up

525
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:47,119
Speaker 1: for this game. Obviously Notre Dame is locked in. But

526
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: beating Georgia in the dramatic matter in which they did,

527
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 1: team that's won two recent national championships. I'm not saying

528
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is satisfied with merely beating Georgia and having

529
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: their season end against Penn State. But that's it's an

530
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: emotional come down. It has to be given how how

531
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: that game went, and so I just I wonder about

532
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: that a little bit. That you know, this is this

533
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 1: is much more of a business path for Penn State

534
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: than it is for Notre Dame. That there's more emotions

535
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 1: involved with Notre Dame. You know that the big you know,

536
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: the the hockey line changes on the crazy fourth and

537
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: short moment. Like, I just think there was so much

538
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: emotional in that game. I don't know. I'm given that

539
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: slight edge to Penn State and I'm picking them to

540
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: win this game. What's your final score? Okay, fifty eight nineteen. Yeah.

541
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Speaker 1: I have Penn State winning this game twenty one, eighteen,

542
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: twenty two, nineteen, twenty three, sevent You know, I think

543
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: they will win this game by more than two. Okay,

544
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 1: so I have them close, and I don't see Penn

545
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: State scoring twenty seven points against Notre Dame.

546
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Speaker 2: I think it's close. I think it's low score. I

547
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: think we're headed for another rock fight. I think it's

548
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: decided by, as I said earlier, one or two plays,

549
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: field position, that type of thing. I think we know

550
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: exactly what we're gonna get here. We knew it was

551
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 2: coming with the Georgia game. I think it's coming again here.

552
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: I have more questions about Notre Dame.

553
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: In this moment than I do Penn State.

554
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: M Hm.

555
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 2: I've got the Nitney Lions going to the ship. I've

556
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 2: got it twenty three to twenty as my final score.

557
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: So we're same page.

558
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 2: Okay, we're on the same page now again. I think

559
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: this is a coin flip. Frankly, this is an absolute

560
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 2: coin flip in my view, and I could just as

561
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 2: easily make a really strong case for Notre Dame. But

562
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: if you're forcing me to pick one of these two.

563
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to be as objective as I can,

564
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: and right now, based on those questions, I go. I

565
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: go Penn State twenty three to twenty.

566
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: If Notre Dame wins this game, and obviously I think

567
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: it's for the reasons you outlined. But the blueprint for

568
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 1: Notre Dame is I mean, it's third and nine s

569
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,679
Speaker 1: for Drew Aller and Penn State, I assume. I mean

570
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: it's the blueprint for both of these teams. Right They're

571
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, trying to win their first and second downs

572
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: and force either quarterback to throw down the field. Obviously,

573
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: Drew Aller has the best weapon in this game, but

574
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: they're shakier in those moments and possessing the ball. It's

575
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: as we said before the war for three and four

576
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 1: for you know, give Riley Leonard that opportunity to decide

577
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: left or right to fall forward and get another first down.

578
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: Whereas Penn State, I don't think is in that mindset

579
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: of like, let's control the clock in this game and

580
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,440
Speaker 1: wear down the other defense. I just I think they

581
00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: are more confident, perhaps in the array of skill that

582
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: they have on offense.

583
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,479
Speaker 2: I just think they have more ways that they can

584
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: beat you at their offense.

585
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: I really that's the path for Notre Dame right to

586
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: replicate the Georgia game, but getting into the end zone.

587
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: More the path is there very similar to what we

588
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 2: saw against Georgia. Yeah, I don't think it's all that different.

589
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 2: I don't think it's all that different from how we've

590
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: described this team for a good chunk of the year.

591
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,560
Speaker 2: I just think they're a little bit more reliant on

592
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 2: Riley Leonard at this point, certainly with Jeremiah Love going down,

593
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 2: But this has been telegraphed for a while that they

594
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 2: would lean more heavily on Riley Leonard as we got

595
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: into these high, higher leverage moments. Who worked against Georgia

596
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: worked great against Georgia. There's so many things that these

597
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 2: teams have in common. There really are just kind of

598
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: like it's crazy.

599
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: How about a defensive coordinator who didn't really work out

600
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: as a head coach thriving in this new Penn Stater

601
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: and Al Golden Penn State and Al Golden, Like, which

602
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator do you trust more to make adjustments over

603
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: the course of this game?

604
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: Probably probably Al Golden, Probably Golden. There have been some

605
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: lapses this year with Tom Allen, where I can tell

606
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,959
Speaker 2: you the Penn State text threads been lighting up. But

607
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 2: I so, yeah, I probably trust Al Golden a little

608
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: bit more on the defensive side. On the offensive side,

609
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: I mean, Andy Cole Nicky is sort of like the

610
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 2: hot name of the moment, but Mike Denbrock is the

611
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 2: highest paid offensive coordinator for a reason. Yeah, and I

612
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: think he knows how to use guys like this. This

613
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: is sort of his bread and butter to have the

614
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: mobile quarterback and doesn't necessarily need to be something that

615
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 2: jumps off the stat sheet, but you just need to

616
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: make sure you find a way to win.

617
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I trust Codal Nicky more just because he has

618
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: more of his disposal. Look, Notre Dame doesn't throw the

619
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 1: ball downfield. They don't. They're one of the worst teams

620
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: in America at successfully completing passes explosive passes downfield, and

621
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: so there's just Mike Denbrock is more hamstrung by that limitation.

622
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's right. There is something that

623
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: I like about Tom Allen having faced better offenses than

624
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: Al Golden has. Yeah, so he's able to self scout

625
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: a little bit better and see like the weak points

626
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: and perhaps correct for them more. But I think Al

627
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: Golden has probably done as good a job, especially with

628
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 1: the injuries to Ben Morrison Riley Mills. Now we'll see what.

629
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: I don't know what Howard crossed his status is going

630
00:30:58,480 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: into this GEA.

631
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: He looked. He looked ok from what I was able

632
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: to gather from practice reports.

633
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 3: But we'll see.

634
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 2: We'll find out more. By the way, I have some

635
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 2: interesting bulbingo bets for this game. There are fifteen selections

636
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 2: for each game. And what I did is I grouped

637
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: like the four big ones, the four common bets that

638
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: you might pick Notre Dame minus the points, Penn State

639
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: plus the points over the total, under the total, that

640
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: type of thing. Then we included some player props over

641
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: unders for each guy. And then we had some weird

642
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: ones at the bottom the five that I pulled out,

643
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: and again they are fifteen for each game. Tyler Warren

644
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: rushing attempts. I set the line at two and a half.

645
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 1: Dan, all right, so short yardage red zone two point conversion.

646
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: Two and a half will he hit the over? I

647
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: also set the over at point five for rj Obin sacks.

648
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: Rj Oben had a big game against Georgia. That strip

649
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: sack that he had that set up the bow Collins touchdown,

650
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: that was like his biggest play of the years is

651
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: only sack of the year. So can ur j Oben

652
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: do it again? He's in the starting lineup because of

653
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: injuries around him. I have a question of will there

654
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: be at least one two point conversion attempt? Will either

655
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: team record a safety? It's going to be a defensive

656
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: struggle in my opinion, so safety's very.

657
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: Much on the table.

658
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: And then my favorite Super Bowl prop I included here,

659
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: will either team score three consecutive.

660
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 3: Times in this football game?

661
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: And you wouldn't think it's something that's gonna happen, especially

662
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: in a rock fight, but more often than not, I

663
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: feel like.

664
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: It wins in the Super Bowl.

665
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: Right every time in the Super Bowl three consecutive times

666
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,400
Speaker 2: is a winning prop. Just throwing that out there again.

667
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: Playbowlbingo dot Com, by the way, should also mention Playbowlbingo

668
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: dot Com. Yeah, seventy and Sonny is the forecast for

669
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Thursday's weather in Miami. I don't know what time, you know,

670
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be sixties or something like that at kickoff

671
00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: in the evening, but ideal conditions.

672
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 2: Dude, it's like seventeen in cloudy here right now. It's

673
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 2: in Pennsylvania.

674
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: It's real tough.

675
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: We thought about going to this for a hot minute

676
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: and it didn't. It didn't, you know, we kind of

677
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: came to our sentens and went a different direction. But yeah,

678
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 2: needless to say, it's a.

679
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: Little Do you know anybody going? You have Buddy's going.

680
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people going to this game. Yeah,

681
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 2: on both sides of it. I know Notre Damers. I

682
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: know Penn Staters who are who are going to this game.

683
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 2: Penn Staters in particular, I think had this one circled.

684
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: The SMU game was brutally cold. There were some folks

685
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: that didn't go up to that one. You might recall

686
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: that was kind of a news story. Yeah, they ended

687
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 2: up filling up the stadium anyway, so that didn't quite

688
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: work out from a narrative standpoint. The Fiesta Bowl was interesting,

689
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: I think of an interesting ticket for Penn Staters on

690
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: the West coast. It was easier to get to, the

691
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 2: ticket wasn't crazy expensive. Boise was obviously very excited to

692
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 2: go back to the Fiesta Ball. There were a lot

693
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: of boys and people there. But this is the one,

694
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: at least for those of us I think here on

695
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: the East Coast. This is the one that a lot

696
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 2: of penn stators had circled this Miami game.

697
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, I.

698
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,280
Speaker 2: Think it'll be uh, definitely attended well from both sides.

699
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: Any other X factors that you want to point out

700
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: having intimate knowledge of these two teams, like are there

701
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: any offensive linemen you don't trust? Are there any safeties

702
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: you don't trust? Are there any situations you don't trust

703
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: for either of these games that people while watching this

704
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: game be like, ooh, that handsome silver fox of ty

705
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: Hildenbrandt pointed this out earlier in the week, that don't

706
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: trust number seventy blahbaty blah, anything like that for ether

707
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: one of these teams. That's just like a pet love

708
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: or hate here.

709
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm sort of obsessed right now with

710
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: Leonard Moore, who noted it and brought in to play

711
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: starting corner after they had so many injuries, and in

712
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 2: that Georgia game it seemed as if they kept trying

713
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 2: to pick on Christian Gray, which is something that we

714
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: also saw in that USC gabe earlier.

715
00:34:59,360 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 3: This year.

716
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: So I guess I'm just it's not so much a

717
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: pet player as it is a pet matchup to see

718
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 2: which of those two corners, Drew Aller and Andy Kotalnikki decide

719
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 2: they want to attack more. If that is the case,

720
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it was very clear that Georgia had that

721
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: in the game plan. They kept throwing at Christian Gray.

722
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm just curious to see if we see something similar freshman.

723
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 2: By the way, freshman Leonard Moore, freshman, three star freshmen.

724
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: Coaching staff was crazy about him. He has come in

725
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 2: as a lot attributed in a really big way. Yeah,

726
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 2: if they're not throwing at him, that's the ultimate respect.

727
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 2: They're very young at corner. It bodes well for them

728
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: next season and beyond. Yeah, But in this moment, I

729
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 2: think that matchup would be fascinating.

730
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: To watch anything on the Penn State side that's either

731
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: rubbing you the right way I know you know what

732
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, sure, or rubbing you the wrong way

733
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: about where like slow starts or linebacking corps or offensive

734
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: line Like is there anything like Oregon put up a

735
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: bunch of yards and points on them. Are there any

736
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: like concern points or like secret loves you have with

737
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Penn State.

738
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I think it's pretty well documented at

739
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: this point, didn't I Dennis Sutton on one side Abdul

740
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,799
Speaker 2: Carter on the other. To what end abdol Carter is

741
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 2: healthy remains to be seen. But those two guys, that

742
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 2: one to two tandem of edge rushers are really really potent,

743
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 2: and I think, more than anything, have a huge opportunity

744
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:23,520
Speaker 2: to change the way that Notre Dame plays its offense.

745
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Those guys are just wreckers. We saw a dds step

746
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 2: up when abdol Carter went down in the Boise game,

747
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: and I mean he was able to change that game.

748
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: You have both in the field at the same time.

749
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: Who is the guy behind Abdul Carter who played well?

750
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,399
Speaker 2: Yeah? Mean Vanover had a good game.

751
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: If McDonough says something like big news from the Penn

752
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: State sideline, Abdul Carter wanted to give it a goal,

753
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: but it appears he's a scratch, does that change your

754
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: pick to like, No, if Abdul Carter is a just

755
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: can't he can't do it because it's this to me, this.

756
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: Matchup, I think Hinge is more on the Notre Dame

757
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: defense versus the Penn State offense than the other way around. Yep,

758
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: So I guess we agree. Let's go to our second game.

759
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,439
Speaker 2: Then this one's on Friday. It is a two day,

760
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: two day event in the college football playoff. This is

761
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 2: the Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic. I saw our friend Ari

762
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: Wasserman from on three was tweeting out that they want

763
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 2: snow in the North Texas quadrant of the country and

764
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 2: that if you are coming to Texas be prepared for

765
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: a quote unquote s show. I won't say the yes

766
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: they want to snow, they don't want it. I think

767
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: they're going to get it. They're predicting that there's going

768
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 2: to be some snowfall in North Texas.

769
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 1: A dome, we should point out.

770
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 2: It's a dome. It won't affect the game, but.

771
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: It affects travel and comfort.

772
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: The fan experience.

773
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: Sure, I gotta tell you when Dallas is iced over

774
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: and freezing, it is one of the worst places on Earth.

775
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: The apocalypse. It's horrible, not great. Yeah, right now, it's

776
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: in the thirties. It looks like on Friday. Yeah, there

777
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: could be snow on Thursday. Friday looks thirties, twenties and cloudy,

778
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: but it'll be nice and warm and Jerry World.

779
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 2: Ohio State twelve and two, Texas thirteen and two. Chris

780
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: Vaaler Kirk Curve Street on the call. Ohio State is

781
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 2: a six point favorite.

782
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 3: Dan.

783
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: They got here by destroying both Tennessee and Oregon. Texas,

784
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: of course, got here by beating Clemson and then Arizona

785
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,800
Speaker 2: State in overtime. Editors note, Dan, both Clemson and Arizona

786
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: State did make it interesting in the second halves of

787
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: those Texas games, did they not?

788
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: Yes?

789
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: Interestingly, Arizona State took an overtime. One thing that I

790
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: think we are seeing from Ohio State that should not

791
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: be under sold is the value of a fast start.

792
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Fast start. We've seen it in both of their playoff games. Now,

793
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: Ohio State lost both coin tosses. I looked this up.

794
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 2: They got the ball first in both games, and in

795
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: both games they also scored on their opening drives. They

796
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 2: scored three plays against Oregon, five plays against Tennessee, so

797
00:38:55,920 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 2: very very quick in both cases. From that point forward, word.

798
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 3: It's snowballed.

799
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, those games are over by halftime, truly, so hot

800
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: take alert. I don't have a sound for this, but

801
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: hot take alert. It's important that Texas not let that

802
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 2: happen in this game the way it did the previous

803
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: two for Ohio State. You put yourself behind the eight

804
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 2: ball like that. Like I said, in both of those cases,

805
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 2: it sort of got out of hand quickly before halftime.

806
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 2: So don't let that happen. That's my first take.

807
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way, on that note, I look this up.

808
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: Texas has the third best pass efficiency first quarter defense,

809
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: and I thought to myself, ooh, okay, so they are

810
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: game planned, they're ready to roll. Then you check the

811
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Texas is played, and you're like, don't know how

812
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: much this means. And then you look at number eight

813
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: and it's Tennessee and you're like, well, this stat definitely

814
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: means nothing because it's to Ohio State.

815
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely. I was going to say the same thing because

816
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 2: on paper, on paper, Texas does not let that happen.

817
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: And I spend a lot of time looking at the

818
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: Texas defense. They've been one of the best first quarter

819
00:39:56,719 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: defenses all season long. During the regular season, they were

820
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 2: excellent at avoiding big pass plays, which is obviously something

821
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: you can go back and look in the Tennessee and

822
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: Oregon games that those were killer teams only attempted passes

823
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: of eleven or more air yards about twenty five percent

824
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 2: of the time against Texas, which was among the least

825
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 2: in college football. They're not a heavy blitzing team. They

826
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 2: play a lot of zone about seventy five percent of

827
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: the time this season. To me, that speaks to a

828
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,720
Speaker 2: blueprint here a force Ohio State to try and nickel

829
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: and dime you, and then if they get down in

830
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: the red area, force threes instead of sevens.

831
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 1: The magician.

832
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Texas has been really good in the red

833
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 2: zone this year. I don't think there's I don't think

834
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean defense, defensively defense. Yeah, okay, what do you

835
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 2: think of Sorry I'm talking about it. I heard defense.

836
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: I I must have had like a momentary fugue state

837
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: situation where when you put when you put together defense,

838
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: I know, I know, that's what you're talking about. Texa

839
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: has been very good people. You know, eleven are yards

840
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: very small percentage of the time.

841
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got it, you gotta.

842
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: But when you connect those words, Texas has been very

843
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 1: good in the red zone this year. Just sets off

844
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: defense like a there's a censor that it goes in

845
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: my head.

846
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: Cut that's fair, that's fair. I just I don't think

847
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: you're stopping the Ohio State offense. I think to some

848
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: extent you can hope to contain it. My whole theory

849
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: here is let him try to nickel and dime. You

850
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: give Will Howard more opportunities to make a dumb mistake.

851
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 2: He hasn't made any mistakes so far as post you

852
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: got to get in his face. That's been awesome. Yeah,

853
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 2: he's been awesome. But give him tighter windows if you're

854
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: going to give him any windows at all, and see

855
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: if he can do the same thing down in the

856
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 2: red zone when it's a little bit harder to fit

857
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: those passes in. My biggest singular question in this game, though,

858
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: is how Texas is going to deal with a high

859
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 2: pressure defense like Ohio State. My question isn't so much

860
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: about stopping the Ohio State offense. I think Texas will

861
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: maybe have some success with that, But the question is

862
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 2: with Ohio State blitzing a lot, creating pressure a lot,

863
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: whether they're blitzing or not, how does Texas deal with that?

864
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 2: Which leads me to or Wendy Saucy nug of the weekday,

865
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: last one of the year. Do you have any guesses

866
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 2: here's a trivia question. Yeah, any guesses on Quinn viewers

867
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 2: completion percentage under pressure so far in this postseason, not

868
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 2: all year in the postseason completion percentage when graded under pressure,

869
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 2: per our friends over at PFF.

870
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: I do I know from just my eyeballs, my retinas,

871
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: my you know, the Iris situation is Iris c's I

872
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: don't know that as soon as he is uncomfortable, he

873
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: goes from being excellent to considerably less than excellent. That is,

874
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,240
Speaker 1: that is accurate.

875
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 2: What would you if you're putting a number on it

876
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 2: from zero to one hundred completion percentage when graded under pressure,

877
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:06,239
Speaker 2: I would imagine it's forty eight fifty two thirty five

878
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 2: percent this postseason. Okay, so just the two games or

879
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: no in the three games in the two games so

880
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 2: far the postseason?

881
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're not counting not k SEC Championship as posties.

882
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 3: I don't believe.

883
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 2: So, I don't believe five of fourteen to two interceptions.

884
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: You're going to be looking for a while if you're

885
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: trying to find a quarterback who's better under pressure. They

886
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 2: all turn into different quarterbacks. And this clearly is a

887
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: limited sample size, but the point being you can overwhelm them,

888
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: and I think Ohio State is good enough upfront to

889
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 2: do that. If you do do that, I think it

890
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 2: solves a lot of what Texas tries to do on offense,

891
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: which is motion and misdirection. They want to create confusions

892
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 2: and matchups from the confusion, Yeah, don't give them time

893
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,640
Speaker 2: to run the up Dube, just don't. Don't give any

894
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: of that time. Get in his face, create pressure, turn

895
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: Quinn into a different quarterback. In my opinion, that's sort

896
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,439
Speaker 2: of the blueprint here on the Ohio State defensive side.

897
00:43:58,440 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 2: If that make sense to you.

898
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it almost feels like if Texas is not in

899
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: the end zone the first two or three drives of

900
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: this game, you'd be like, oh, this one might be

901
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: over just because what did we see last week against

902
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 1: Arizona State? Right, it was an incredibly successful game plan

903
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,839
Speaker 1: coming out of the shoot. I think it was an

904
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,319
Speaker 1: RPO play to Matthew Golden that setup, but DeAndre Moore

905
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: touchdown down the sideline immediately, and then of course the

906
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Silas Bolden punt return. So that's not, you know, a

907
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: game plan thing as much as it is just great

908
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: special teams play from Silas Bolden and the punt return team.

909
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 1: But yeah, it has that feel like if Texas doesn't

910
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: start quickly, then they might be in for a long night.

911
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 2: I think it's imperative that Texas takes some deep shots here, okay,

912
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: and hit their burners down the field. You know, quinn

913
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: Ewers throws one of the best deep balls in the

914
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: game right now. If they're able to use some of

915
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 2: that misdirection and get matchups, maybe that opens up the

916
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 2: run game a little bit more. It just gives you

917
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 2: more options if you're calling plays on the Texas side,

918
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: I think it's inevitable.

919
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: They're going to hit one or two of them.

920
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's more a question to me of if

921
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 2: they can create enough of a threat to make Ohio

922
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,359
Speaker 2: State respect at every play. You know, that's ultimately what

923
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 2: you're going for. If you can do that, if you

924
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,760
Speaker 2: can get guys to back off a little bit, maybe

925
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 2: it opens up the run game. Maybe it opens up

926
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 2: some underneath stuff. It kind of frees up your offense.

927
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: But it's imperative to me that they take some of

928
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: those shots and maybe to your point that they hit

929
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 2: a couple early. Texas has burners out wide. I mean,

930
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 2: they have guys who can run.

931
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: I mean, we'll see on Isaiah Bond, who I think

932
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: has been practicing.

933
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we'll see. But I mean they've got guys

934
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: that can run, They've got guys that can run past you,

935
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: and obviously they've got the quarterback who can throw it

936
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: in the bucket like Quinn can. So I'm if you're

937
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 2: talking about like an early question for me, it's are

938
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: they taking those shots? Are they able to connect to

939
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: some extent where Ohio State's got.

940
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 3: To think twice about it in every play?

941
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

942
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: I don't think Ohio State is going to roll Texas

943
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: the way they did Tennessee in Oregon.

944
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't, Okay.

945
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: I also don't think Texas can do all those things

946
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: I just mentioned, right because Ohio State's just playing so

947
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: well right now, Like you got to put some value

948
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: on momentum, you got to put some value on playing

949
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 2: with confidence.

950
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 3: I think it would be.

951
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: Foolish to pick against Ohio State. I think I'd be

952
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 2: a huge hypocrite if I picked Texas here because I've

953
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: gone what two straight episodes now of posing this question

954
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: of can anyone beat Ohio State in this tournament?

955
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: Right?

956
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 2: So my final is thirty three to twenty eight Ohio State.

957
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Thirty three to twenty eight Ohio State. Yeah, so what

958
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: is it beyond you? So it's the explosivity in the

959
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: passing game for Ohio State. But will Howard look like

960
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: at home and in the Rose Bowl against Tennessee and

961
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: Oregon playing what should be? I mean, Tennessee was a

962
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: really good defense. The game plan didn't seem sound, the

963
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: game dances, game plan did seems sound for Oregon's defense either,

964
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: which has had some nice defensive moments this year. And

965
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: so it's Ohio State being just too lethal, especially through

966
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: the air, to lose this game and their defense being

967
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: so locked down.

968
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 2: I think for me, again, it's more a question of

969
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: the Texas offense and the Ohio State defense, which is

970
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,399
Speaker 2: probably overshadowed to some extent by all the toys they

971
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: have on the offensive side of the ball. But this

972
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: is a really, really good defense. They finished the year

973
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 2: as the top S and P plus defense. They're not

974
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: as end just sp SP SP plus. Yeah, they're very

975
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 2: very sound in their own right. They can get pressure

976
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: with their front four.

977
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: They do like to blitz.

978
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 2: I just think there's going to be so much coming

979
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: at Quinnewers and I have the numbers to back up

980
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 2: that he is not necessarily great under pressure. So I

981
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 2: do like this Texas team a fair amount. I do

982
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 2: like this Texas defense, especially a fair amount. I think

983
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: they're really physical on the defensive side.

984
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 3: Of the ball.

985
00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: But offensively, we have seen moments where it's not just

986
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,720
Speaker 2: Quinn yours. Look at the Georgia game the first time around,

987
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: they overwhelmed that offensive line. This is not necessarily an

988
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: offensive line that when you compare all of Texas's numbers,

989
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 2: that is not what you are putting up on the mantle. Okay,

990
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: the line has had some issues this year. It's still

991
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 2: a very good line, but I'm not confident that they're

992
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: going to be able to withstand the pressure that I

993
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 2: think Ohio State is going to bring, either via blitz

994
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: or just with their front four. And I think that

995
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: changes the complexion of this. So again, if they're unable

996
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: to make Ohio State respect anything deep, that then gives

997
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: them license to play a little closer to the line,

998
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: maybe take away the run, maybe bring even more pressure

999
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: on Quinn yours. I just I think it's a lot

1000
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: to ask for Texas to kind of counter all of

1001
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 2: that with what I think is coming from the Ohio

1002
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,480
Speaker 2: State defense. So yeah, that's why I'm on Ohio State

1003
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 2: thirty three, twenty eight.

1004
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I'm with you on Ohio State. It's

1005
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 1: largely because of the defense. It's largely because of the

1006
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: trust issues I have with the combination of Sark and

1007
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: Quinn yours in a spot like this, and the thing

1008
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: that gives me some pause is this is going to

1009
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: be far and away the best defense Ohio State has played.

1010
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: That if they're not making the same mistakes in the

1011
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: open field, and nobody's gonna fully stop Jeremiah Smith, that's

1012
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: Redicul's just a singular talent, and I think Chip will

1013
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: do a really nice job finding space in this offense.

1014
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 1: But we've seen an Ohio State offense go into a shell,

1015
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: whether it's because of Ryan Day, whether it's because of

1016
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: the defenses that they've played both against Nebraska and against

1017
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: Michigan late in the season. And we can write that

1018
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: off as like a special emotional pocket that shouldn't be

1019
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 1: fully counted on in this spot. But there is something

1020
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: about Texas being better built to handle an attempt at

1021
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 1: an initial onslaught from Ohio State. Then obviously Oregon or

1022
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: Tennessee could do in those specific spots. And so I

1023
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 1: think if you flip it, like we talked about, like, hey,

1024
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: if Texas doesn't score early, they might be in trouble.

1025
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Ohio State doesn't score early.

1026
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting you bring that up. Continue, yeah, continue if.

1027
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State is just like Texas is able. You know

1028
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: Colin Simmons, who's been great off of the edge, Like

1029
00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: that's the actual recipe against Ohio State because you know

1030
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: that like, you're not gonna be if Will Howard has time.

1031
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Those receivers have time. Even if you know there's a

1032
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: lane or two for quin Shawn Judkins or Trey Henderson

1033
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 1: that they're just they're gonna burn you. If you can

1034
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: get to Will Howard. It's a similar story that like

1035
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: the success of this team goes down considerably. It seems

1036
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: to my eyes like that's what changed in the Oregon

1037
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: game is that they got to Will Howard more often.

1038
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: He had less time to get the ball downfield, and

1039
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: they did a better job against the run. These are

1040
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: two beat up offensive lines, which you mentioned. Ohio State

1041
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,720
Speaker 1: has to me done a better job protecting its quarterback.

1042
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 1: We saw Arizona State get Quinnyewers a little bit flustered,

1043
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 1: and so we'll see the state of what Texas looks

1044
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: like upfront. But at best Texas is beat up, and

1045
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: at best Ohio State is down two of its better

1046
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: offensive linemen period, and so that to me is interesting

1047
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: how things are adjusted if these defensive fronts are successful.

1048
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 1: I favor Will Howard there improvising. I think he has

1049
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 1: the legs that Quinnywers doesn't to sort of do what

1050
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: Sam Levitt did against Texas in those big spots. He

1051
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: converted a huge play with his legs. I think Will

1052
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: Howard's better built for that. I think there are more

1053
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: backbreaking improvisational moments on the table for Ohio State than

1054
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: there are for Texas when Texas has the ball. So

1055
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: I am going to give the advantage to Ohio State

1056
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: because of that. But I do wonder Ryan Day in

1057
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 1: these big spots, Steve Sarkisian in these big spots, neither

1058
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: are like overwhelmingly trustworthy. If they're able to push back

1059
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: initially and we get through the first quarter scoreless, we're like, oh, okay,

1060
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: who's winning that chess match? Now, then it becomes a

1061
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: little murkier to me.

1062
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does I honestly, at the end of the day,

1063
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 2: it's hard not to wonder if the switches flipped for

1064
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: Ohio State, if suddenly it is a matter of relinquishing

1065
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 2: some control and giving it the chip Kelly, giving it

1066
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: to our friends, or Blitzelatchim Knowles to run our defense.

1067
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,879
Speaker 2: I mean, it does look like a different team since

1068
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 2: that loss against Michigan. I don't know if something truly

1069
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: did light a fire and they changed their workflow what

1070
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: have you behind the scenes, but it has felt two

1071
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 2: weeks running now like this is a better, more complete team,

1072
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: especially on offense. There is a question though, of if

1073
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: they don't get off to the fast start, what does

1074
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 2: that mean. I mentioned earlier about winning the coin toss

1075
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 2: or I guess losing the coin toss getting the ball first.

1076
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 2: I'm not going to put this one on the coin toss.

1077
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 2: That'd be ridiculous. But if Texas gets the ball first,

1078
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: if they were able to go down the field and

1079
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: get some points, how does that change the mindset, if

1080
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 2: at all, for Ohio State. I'm grasping at straws here.

1081
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 3: Because I think Ohio State's the better team right now.

1082
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm just trying to figure out a way to

1083
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 2: make this game close, because I'm tired of being Ohio

1084
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 2: State blow other teams out. If you're Ohio State fan

1085
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 2: listening to this, you're not. You love it. That's great, right,

1086
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 2: games over at halftime, go do something else. But I

1087
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 2: think for the purposes of just wanting a good game,

1088
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: wanting to see a competitive affair here, I've been looking

1089
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: specifically at ways that Texas can keep this one from

1090
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 2: getting out of hand.

1091
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: But if I'm going to tell you the final score

1092
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: is thirty five to thirteen, we can agree that we

1093
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: would guess Ohio State is the thirty five.

1094
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 3: Ohio State would be the thirty five.

1095
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, that to me is the difference that there seems

1096
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: to be. The pop is a little bit more dangerous

1097
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: with Ohio State. As much as like it was ASU

1098
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: smashing Texas on the ground with cam scataboo over and

1099
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 1: over and coming up with big plays or weird plays

1100
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: with cam scataboo through the air. That that was the

1101
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: difference maker in controlling the clock, which was a big

1102
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: thing for ASU. That's not how Ohio State is built.

1103
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: As much as Ryan Day wanted to win the Michigan

1104
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: game that way, that's not how they're built to win

1105
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: in a spot like this. So yeah, I'm I'm there

1106
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: with uh with Ohio State. Just again, you simulate this

1107
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: game one hundred times. I think they're winning this game

1108
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: sixty eight to seventy two times because of the number

1109
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 1: of ways that they can win. They just seem more

1110
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: trustworthy in this moment. And I mean, you're a golfer,

1111
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: you know this. Nobody has been happier to be in

1112
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: a Mulligan system than Ohio State. They've got this second life.

1113
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 1: Never would be here in any other year, and here

1114
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 1: we are, and they are riding high.

1115
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,800
Speaker 2: They're riding high. I think they're the odds on favorite

1116
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: right now. When the National Championship prayer, the betting lines,

1117
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: it's either them or Texas.

1118
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 3: Frankly, mm hm.

1119
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 2: Whoever comes out of this game is the odds on

1120
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,279
Speaker 2: favorite going into that matchup in Atlanta. I've got thirty

1121
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 2: three twenty eight. What's your final?

1122
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 1: Something like thirty one twenty three. I think they're going

1123
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 1: to cover. Okay, I have them covering. I just I've

1124
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: seen too much from this Texas team to fully trust

1125
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: them in a spot like this. Thirty one to twenty

1126
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: three and the Ohio State defense, to me, is the

1127
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: best thing in this game. They're the most trust you know,

1128
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs coming down and just I saw I don't

1129
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: know if it was Bruce Feldman, it was one of

1130
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: somebody on Blue Sky or Twitter or something watching the

1131
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 1: Vikings who they played last night, Lions. It was one

1132
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,959
Speaker 1: of the first NFL games I've watched this season where

1133
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: there was something about the Lions defense that made it

1134
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: seem like there were twelve guys on the field the

1135
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: whole time. And you know how that much that sort

1136
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: of phrasing means to me as an Oregon fan the

1137
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:22,760
Speaker 1: first Ohio State game. But that's what Ohio State's defense

1138
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 1: actually feels like, right that they're just like, do there

1139
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: are there too many jerseys on the field, No, They're

1140
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: just everywhere. They're just smothering. And I mean the Texas

1141
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 1: defense is also excellent, but I don't know, I think

1142
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: there's something special about Ohio State, especially up the middle

1143
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: on this defense.

1144
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: It's tough.

1145
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I have them winning by touchdown plus seven eight points.

1146
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 2: Okay, so we.

1147
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 1: Sort of agree, we agree you have Texas covering and

1148
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: keeping this close. Ish, I have Ohio State by seven or.

1149
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 2: Eight Yeah, the way that this played out in my head,

1150
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 2: by the way, was a thirty three two let's say,

1151
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: like twenty two score up into till late where Texas

1152
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 2: scores and has to go for two and doesn't get it.

1153
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.

1154
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 2: I don't know why I said that, but that's sort

1155
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:11,919
Speaker 2: of where I was at with when I was trying

1156
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: to work out the math on this one. I have

1157
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 2: some interesting bowl bingo bets for this one as well.

1158
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: Ready for him.

1159
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 3: I'm excited about these.

1160
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: Okay, So, first and foremost, well, Texas win the coin toss.

1161
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: I mentioned this twice down. Okay, Ohio State has lost

1162
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 2: both coin tosses in both of their playoff games. We'll

1163
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 2: Texas win the coin toss, very easy, guess, don't. Secondly,

1164
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: we'll Ohio State score on their first drive. They scored

1165
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: on each of their first two drives after losing the

1166
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: coin toss. You can bet this one without betting that

1167
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 2: they lose the coin toss, but first time they get

1168
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: the ball by the scoring a touchdown. It's been very

1169
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 2: very good so far. Beyond that total number of snaps

1170
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: for arch Manning, hold on.

1171
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: Let me guess what you put it at two and

1172
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:57,399
Speaker 1: a half.

1173
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,959
Speaker 2: One and a half, okay, play in the last game.

1174
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: How many STAPs will he get?

1175
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, essentially, you're saying short yardage, Texas goes down

1176
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: early in the same way they went down to Georgia.

1177
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: They need a spark, they make a change, or when

1178
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: yours gets hurt.

1179
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, or or there's like a goal line package where

1180
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 2: they want to run the read option, they want to

1181
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 2: use his legs, maybe use him as a decoy, something

1182
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: of that nature. Totally one and a half, one and

1183
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: a half.

1184
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:24,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I might go over there, yep.

1185
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,600
Speaker 2: Then the last one, will an on side kick be attempted?

1186
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 2: M attempted, not recovered, just attempted. If this game is

1187
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: thirty three twenty eight, as I'm predicting, there's a pretty

1188
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: good chance we're going to see an on side kick late.

1189
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: Do you think either of these teams on that note,

1190
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: views the other as the last huge obstacle in this tournament?

1191
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean, I think if you're Texas, you have to

1192
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: view that right. There's no way Penn State or Notre

1193
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: Dame seems more daunting than Ohio State.

1194
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: I think Ohio State for sure, and I would agree

1195
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 2: on the Texas idea Okay.

1196
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: So that's two straight games in which Ohio State may

1197
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: be looking at there like we get by this, we're

1198
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: in good shape. Next round, we get by this, we're

1199
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: in good like.

1200
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: Okay, Ohio State would be favored by seven and a

1201
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: half over Penn State, by seven over Notre Dame. Texas

1202
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 2: would be favored by three over Penn State, two and

1203
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 2: a half against Notre Dame. So they're in at least

1204
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 2: here with these advanced lines, they're viewing Penn State and

1205
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 2: Notre Dame about equally.

1206
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, and by the way, should be Notre

1207
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: Dame beat the team that beat the team twice.

1208
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 3: That's right.

1209
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: Notre Dame beat Georgia, not a same quarterback. Georgia beat

1210
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 1: Texas twice. Notre Dame just beat them. So I'm not

1211
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: saying I agree, I'm just wondering what the scouting viewpoint

1212
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: is that, Like, if there's more kitchen sync to be thrown,

1213
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: does Ohio State think they need to save it for

1214
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Penn State? Yeah, same for Texas. I yeah,

1215
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: this is gonna be fascinating. Can't wait. Can I ask

1216
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,479
Speaker 1: you a follow up question?

1217
00:58:59,600 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 2: Please?

1218
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 1: I have so many questions for you ty hostly about

1219
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: college football. Are we streaming either one of these as

1220
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: like a live watch along? And if so, when and where?

1221
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 2: Well? I think we got to do Ohio State, Texas.

1222
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: Okay, Friday evening, seven thirty eastern.

1223
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: Seven thirty eastern time. Yeah, okay, there is the open

1224
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: question though of Thursday. Now you said Thursday you had

1225
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 2: some scheduling conflicts, so we might not be able to

1226
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: do that if we want it? Is that true?

1227
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: H It's changed. I don't have scheduling conflicts anymore. I

1228
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,560
Speaker 1: don't think here, here's the latest with Jody with an Eye.

1229
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: Who's actually I think going to be in Texas this week? Okay,

1230
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: maybe it's scouting for Notre Dame or Penn State. Who's today?

1231
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: Never know.

1232
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,680
Speaker 1: The latest from Jody with an Eye is she flies

1233
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:45,720
Speaker 1: out Tuesday night and flies back Wednesday night, so I

1234
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,360
Speaker 1: think she's in town. So we have flexibility.

1235
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

1236
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away from your experience

1237
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: as a college football orphan though. Between Penn State and

1238
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

1239
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: Well, it's not like I'm not going to be watching

1240
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 2: the game.

1241
00:59:57,360 --> 01:00:00,440
Speaker 1: You know this me goofing on your team games? Is

1242
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: that how you want to do it.

1243
01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 2: I would like to hear from the verboler hood on this. Okay.

1244
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: We are, at the end of the day, college football

1245
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: content creators.

1246
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: That's what we do.

1247
01:00:11,480 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: I would like to hear from the verballerhood if that's

1248
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: something that the verballer hood would would be into, would

1249
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 2: take pleasure in. If people want us to do the stream,

1250
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 2: I'll do the stream. I'll do the stream for that game.

1251
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: And if we don't do the stream, you will do

1252
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: a solo instat reaction right after. That's right, pure uncut

1253
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 1: raw tie emotion.

1254
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:36,360
Speaker 2: There will be some uncut gem after that game, one

1255
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: way or another, Okay, But I would like to hear

1256
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: from the verbawler hood before we decide on Thursday, Bell,

1257
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 2: Let's make Friday a date. Let's do it on Friday

1258
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 2: night Friday.

1259
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we will live stream watch along Ohio State, Texas

1260
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: Smell tieshair dot com or Twitch or Twitter x wherever

1261
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: they'll be doing it, we'll be doing that.

1262
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 2: So again, those are our picks. Yes, we both have

1263
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 2: Ohio State winning, we both have Penn State winning. As always,

1264
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:05,720
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1265
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,960
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1266
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,040
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1267
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1268
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: hear from people, So reach a Facebook reach out. Let

1269
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: us know what your thoughts are, what your predictions official

1270
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: predictions are in advance of these college football playoffs semi

1271
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,080
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1273
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1274
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1275
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 2: there will of course be a tiebreaker, so gets the

1276
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:44,320
Speaker 2: big prize.

1277
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: Can't wait, cannot wait. And if there's anything I said

1278
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: at the top of the episode, you know anything you

1279
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: want to get off your chest about, you know this

1280
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: being just the wrong, just unlucky time for Oregon football,

1281
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: whereas you know they were built to win in a

1282
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: four team era, two team era old era means it's

1283
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: all you tai. I'm over it as you can.

1284
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: Tell fair enough. Thank you one, Thank you all for downloading,

1285
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 2: for listening, for playing along at home. It is always

1286
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 2: our pleasure to do these episodes. It's weird to only

1287
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 2: do two games. Yeah, but Hopefully you got some value

1288
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,080
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1291
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1292
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