1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: It's a phenomenon. Yeah, began in the late seventies and 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: it really exploded in the middle eighties. It's the NFL 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 1: combine and NFL fans cannot wait, nor can we because 4 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: we're headed there. But before we head there, we're here 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 1: on this edition of Defending the Kingdom. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 2: The homes in the pocket will. 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: Step up, You'll scrabble ten fine dogs, diving touchdown, Chance 8 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: of City. Harry Wan I'm Cheolda's voice of the Chiefs 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: along with senior team reporter Matt McMullan, and yes, we 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: are headed to Indianapolis. Normally we're a little bit like 11 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 1: coming off as Super Bowl and little weary wouldn't But 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: now we're like ready to go to check out Indianapolis. 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: So there's some excitement as we head to the East. 14 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 3: It's a weird feeling because you're right, the last three 15 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 3: years we're coming off the Super Bowl and we have 16 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 3: like twenty minutes it feels like to figure out all 17 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: the draft prospects that we're interested in, and you know 18 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 3: what the combine is going to look like. This year 19 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: a little bit different and I'm ready for it because really, 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 3: ever since we got eliminated from postseason contention. We've been 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 3: talking about how can we get a jumpstart on next season, 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 3: get a jump start on avoiding what happened last year 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 3: and making this team better. And we've been doing that, 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 3: but now we can finally go to the combine and 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: it feels like this is kind of when the off 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 3: season truly begins and we're fired up about it. 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not going to get the weeds of a 28 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: lot of guys here. We're going to talk about the 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,319 Speaker 1: local guys, which is kind of fun. Yeah, that will 30 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: be at the Combine. But I'm excited because this is 31 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: my thirty third year in the NFL and I've never 32 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: been to. 33 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: The Scout Combine. I'm a rookie. Let's go out. Is 34 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: there a rookie initiation? 35 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, do I have to like, do you take 36 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: me to the goalposts? 37 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 3: Or anyway? I can't wait. Yeah, it's a cool experience. 38 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 3: I think you'll like it a lot. Like Indianapolis is 39 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: designed to host conventions. It's like the perfect city for it. 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 3: And to have that many people in one big room 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: where you have all these reporters, all these scouts, GMS, 42 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: all these NFL hopefuls, it's pretty cool. To see it 43 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 3: all right there, and we're going to talk to a 44 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: lot of people. We're going to have a desk like 45 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: in the radio row area will be all official. I 46 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 3: will interview a bunch of people, hopefully interview some chiefs, 47 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 3: front office people, and going with this offseason, it'll be fun. 48 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: Three hundred and nineteen players have been invited to the 49 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six NFL Combine. And we know that there's 50 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: the speed and agility drills that are talked about ad nauseum, 51 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: but this really also is like the interviews are interesting. 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: Each team gets sixty interviews. Yeah, you get fifteen minutes 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: a piece basically, but I've talked to coaches and players 54 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: down through the years those interviews are more impactful sometimes 55 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: than people think. 56 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so. 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: There's some dumb questions by some teams in the interview, 58 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: but it's also you've got to figure out not just 59 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: the physical abilities, but some mental acumen. And you go 60 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: through this in your vetting of a player and the 61 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: pro days and when you get on campus and you 62 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: actually talk to everybody you can find around that player, 63 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: but to get them in a room and to find 64 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: them spontaneously trying to react to questions to me, I 65 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: think is intriguing because you do get some element of 66 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: what it does take to play in the National Football League. 67 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's one of the most important things 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 3: that happens at the Combine. The athletic testing is important, 69 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 3: and we're going to talk all about that while we're there, 70 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: and you reference that, you know when you pick guys 71 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: like hey, he runs this forty yard dash or this 72 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: twenty yard shuttle, all that stuff like, it's important, it matters. 73 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 3: But I think the two most important things at the 74 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 3: combine are the medical because you get everyone in one 75 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: place and you have a baseline of medical data that 76 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 3: you can agree on and say this is legitimate, figure 77 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: out injury history, stuff like that. But then also the 78 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 3: interviews and is this player going to fit with our culture? 79 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: Does this player kind of understand how we want to 80 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 3: do things here, will they fit in with our coaches? 81 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 4: Stuff like that. 82 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 3: It's very important, and I feel like with the coverage 83 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: of the combine, those two things are kind of overlooked. 84 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: A little bit. 85 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: It's about hey, who is the fastest or the strongest 86 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: or the most agile. Important, But I think if you 87 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: ask any of our coaches or front office people. The 88 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 3: interviews in the medical are the most important parts of 89 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: the combine. 90 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: And we got players in this group that did not 91 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: play in the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five season 92 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: at all. So the tape you have to go back 93 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: to is twenty four. 94 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 2: But then the. 95 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 1: Medicals and we've got there's one guy in here has 96 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: had two ACL operations, a tight end who's had two acls. 97 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: On the same knee. 98 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: So that becomes paramount when you're looking at a medical evaluation. 99 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: No, it definitely does. 100 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 3: It's important, And before the combine existed, there wasn't like 101 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: a centralized, agreed upon database. It was you had to 102 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: go out to all these schools. You had to ask 103 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 3: the coaches there, and that stuff still happens, but think 104 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 3: about how difficult that would be if you have a 105 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: player coming off of torn ACL. You have no idea 106 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 3: what the rehab's been like. You don't know where they 107 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 3: are in their rehab or who's been working on them 108 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 3: all that stuff. Like the beauty of the combine is 109 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 3: everyone can agree on this, and that's kind of your 110 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: baseline for when you attack the draft to the whole 111 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 3: off season training program. If you take a player that's 112 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 3: coming off an injury, well, we know exactly what he's 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,239 Speaker 3: been going through so far to this point. It's super 114 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: important and it's not exciting to talk about, but when 115 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: you're talking about creating a football team and building this 116 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 3: thing back up, you got to start somewhere, and that's 117 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 3: certainly the place to do it. 118 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: The other phenomenon to me about the NFL Combine, that's fascinating, 119 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: and this has been the last three years and we're 120 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: kind of coming out of a weaning period of. 121 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: This is the whole COVID sensation. 122 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: Meaning at the combine you're going to have This wasn't 123 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: the way it always was, but you'll have a twenty 124 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: year old or a twenty one year old, and you're 125 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: gonna have a twenty seven year old. Yeah, there's like 126 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: seven year dudes that are finally coming out. They're going 127 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: to be at the combine. 128 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 3: As Carson Beckett the combine, I think he is like 129 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 3: seven years in school. 130 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 2: Seven years at school. 131 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: Here's Carson Beckett forty nine years old, and there's a 132 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 1: twenty year old dude in this thing. So to me, 133 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: that is it is really interesting, like to look at 134 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 1: them kind of side by side, or to kind of 135 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,479 Speaker 1: differentiate where they at in a physical development the mental 136 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: and emotional development. We know that you can be varied 137 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: very much like age, so we kind of feel like 138 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: we're coming out of the COVID. Hey he's been at 139 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: school seven or eight years, but it's still going to 140 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 1: be there for a while. But to me, this year 141 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: it is full on in that room. 142 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 3: The transfer stuff is still so weird to me too. 143 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: Where if you look at like a guy's career and 144 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 3: he played at like Florida Atlantic and then two years 145 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 3: at Virginia Tech, you're at Miami, finished up at Western Kentucky. 146 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: What do you call him? 147 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: You know? 148 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 4: What's his mascot is? 149 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: You don't? And it's always the last year. 150 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but that doesn't seem fair, especially if that was 151 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: like a grad transfer year. There's one guy we're going 152 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: to talk about on here. It fits that role. There's 153 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: a local guy that played one year but then he's 154 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: tied endo that school. 155 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: Uh huh, Like well wait a minute, like. 156 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 4: On something that football he says tight end whatever. 157 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, where you really know you're at Florida Atlantic for 158 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 2: three years? Why did you say Oregon? So? 159 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 5: Uh? 160 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's interesting the area play I think 161 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: deserve mention here. Yeah, and you actually wrote an article 162 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: about it which was terrific. It's always something I'm interested 163 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: in to look at. But there's some that deserve mentioned. 164 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: And then there's also something and I'll let you go 165 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: through the list. But then there's some really interesting stories 166 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: that go beyond the stories of the local players who 167 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 1: will be at the combine. 168 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 3: This is always like an annual rite for me, like 169 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 3: our tradition. I know the off season is here when 170 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 3: I get the list of all the people going to 171 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: the combine, all three hundred and nineteen of them, if 172 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 3: you're talking about this season, and I google every single one, 173 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,239 Speaker 3: and I learn a lot about the capabilities of different 174 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 3: athletic departments and how much time and effort they put 175 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: into writing about their players. 176 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 4: Some a lot, some not so much, some. 177 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 2: Not so much. 178 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, to find other sources. So here's the local guys. 179 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: These are local Kansas City prospects, so like Kansas City 180 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: High schools. I didn't include the players that went to 181 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: local universities. So there's six players from a Zoo, two 182 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: from KU, two from case Day. If they were from 183 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 3: this area, didn't include them in this because you kind 184 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 3: of already know about them. But here's the guys that 185 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: went to local Casey High schools. So Wyoming tight end 186 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 3: John Michael Gillenborg. I pronounced that correctly. 187 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 2: I think. 188 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: So I know his dad. I just saw his dad 189 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: actually in December. They're huge Chiefs fans. 190 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 191 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: I figured it out and his dad they would go 192 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 1: to Wyoming and drive to the games. They drove to 193 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: Laramie to the games from Kansas City. From Kansas City 194 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: and most of the road games they drove to think 195 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: about who Wyoming's playing on the road. Yeah, okay, wow, 196 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: So but they drove and it's like a nine hour drive. Well, 197 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: their last years of following John Michael and Laramie were 198 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: spent listening to the games. They would they would they 199 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: would time it because if they had a nine hour 200 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 1: drive to Laramie, they could burn up with pregame, the game, 201 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: and postgame. They could burn up five of those nine hours. 202 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,680 Speaker 1: And they said, oh my gosh it actulute Les saved us. Wow, 203 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: listen to these games coming back from Wyoming. So it 204 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 1: was fun to talk to his dad. Kid's a talented player. Yeah, 205 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: you know Rockers kid, But I'm glad you brought him up. 206 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, you've ever been on that road like around Laramie 207 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 3: from like Fort Collins to Laramie or Rock Springs. Yes, 208 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 3: you're lucky if you don't blow off the highway. 209 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 210 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Different, it's like are we on the same planet here? Yeah, 211 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like it has its own beauty though 212 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: it does. 213 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 4: It's beautiful as long as you don't blow off the highway. 214 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 3: We have two Rockers kids, so he's one of them, 215 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 3: the other being Texas A and m Ed Dresher. Cassius 216 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 3: Howell really impressive player, Like he's a guy I'm kind 217 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 3: of enamored with. We'll talk about him more on a 218 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 3: later episode. But it's funny when you watch a guy 219 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, this guy's really good, Like I 220 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: could see him fitting in here, and you look him 221 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 3: up and it's like he went to Rockers. He grew 222 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: up ten minutes from me, who knew. But Cassius Howel 223 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: is the other Rockers and they. 224 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: Could be one that would be there at forty maybe 225 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: if you take an edge. 226 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 3: At nine, which the exciting thing about forty one. Thing 227 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 3: that we've been talking about a lot is obviously picking 228 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 3: number nine is a big deal going to get a 229 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: really good player there, But picking at I think is 230 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,200 Speaker 3: equally a big deal because how often does it happen 231 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: where there's over the course of like mock draft season, 232 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 3: there's like fifty players who are supposed to be first rounders, right, 233 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: which is obviously impossible. Well, when Day two rolls around, 234 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: there's all these players who are still available at the 235 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 3: beginning of round two where you're like, hey, this guy 236 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,319 Speaker 3: was like projected to go like seventeenth overall, eighteenth overall. 237 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: He's available now at thirty three. But we never have 238 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: a shot at those guys because we're picking at the 239 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 3: end of the second round. Those guys are always gone. Well, 240 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: this year we have a chance at one of those guys. 241 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 3: It's almost like getting two first rounders. So I'm with you, 242 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: I'm excited about that. Iowa offensive lineman Bo Stevens went 243 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 3: to Blue Springs High School. Iowa State defensive tackle Dominique 244 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,959 Speaker 3: Orange went to North Kansas City High School, and the 245 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: running for maybe the best nickname in the draft, the 246 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 3: Big Citrus Dominique Orange. 247 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: It's also gigantic, Yeah, so he comes up with the 248 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: Big Citrus Moniker Honestly, but let's give a sh shout 249 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: out here to the North Kansas City Hornets. Yeah, think 250 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: of the NFL guys. These guys are that high school's 251 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: pumping out. There's there's several around the league. 252 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: And so. 253 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: Shout out to our high school coaches in North Kansas 254 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: City who pops up on this list about every year. 255 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: It's very impressive. For these next three guys. I got 256 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 3: a little like liberal with the Kansas City area. 257 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: I love it when you do it. 258 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I knowed you'd enjoy it. Yeah, but they're nearby. 259 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: They're within like forty five minutes to an hour. So 260 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 3: Oregon wide receiver Malik Benson went to Lansing High School. 261 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: You familiar with Lansing? 262 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Okay, the Lions. 263 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: Uh, it's it's actually almost twin cities with Levenworth. Okay, 264 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: you can't tell when you're leaving Levenworth and entering Lancing. 265 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 1: This kid, I remember when he played high school. There 266 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: was an absolute phenom. I bet this kid runs four three, five. 267 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 2: God bet. 268 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: Here's one of the stories. And I've got a couple more. 269 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: But in one of the more interesting phenomenon of area 270 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: athletes in the Chiefs Kingdom, if they're kind of under recruited. 271 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,319 Speaker 1: Because we can talk about this even more, but the 272 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: junior college football in the Chiefs Kingdom is some of 273 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 1: the best, if not the best, in the nation. And 274 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 1: this is a kid that's an example of He went 275 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: to Hutchinson Community College under recruited, even though the dude 276 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: was like, you know, blazing forty times and went in 277 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: truble jump and high jumping was the phenom talk of 278 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: the K seven corridor. But he goes to hutch and 279 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: blows up. Then he's he goes to Alabama for a while, 280 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: but then he was at Florida State. This isn't one 281 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: of those where he was at Oregon for one year. 282 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 4: His graduate trade marquee programs. 283 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, think about this. 284 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: He was at Alabama, Florida State, houch Juco and the 285 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,439 Speaker 1: Blue Dragons, and then he goes to Oregon's now he's 286 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: an Oregon guy. 287 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: Well wait a minute, wasn't it at Alabama in Florida State? 288 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 2: So but he's a real. 289 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 3: Interesting guy, yes, and pretty cool. We got Tennessee tight 290 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: end Miles kit Selman. That's right, went to Lynden High School. 291 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: So they still played eleven man when when Miles was 292 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: there but I think it was the last year of 293 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: eleven man before they went eight men. 294 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 2: Wow, these guys Lynden High School. 295 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 1: Lynden High School, which is just south of Topeka, has 296 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: had three Division One football players, with Miles starting him. 297 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: Now here's another one. 298 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: Guess where he went Hutcheson Community College because Miles was 299 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: under recruited. Right, These guys don't go to the Nike 300 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: Combine or whatever and show up with the top one 301 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: hundred players. They end up playing in the NFL because 302 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: they go through the junior college ranks. And there's some 303 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: more in here, but the fact that he went to Hutch. 304 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,239 Speaker 1: He blows up at Hutch. Guess where he goes. Alabama 305 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: comes and finds him. Yeah, he's in Alabama, but then 306 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 1: he ends at Tennessee. Is a really good player. 307 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: It's amazing how Hutch and some of the junior colleges 308 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 3: like Gardener are just like these factories for the major programs. 309 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: It's a real story. 310 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll jump in there sometime of all the 311 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: great NFL players who came from Butler, Garden and Dodge 312 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: and Highland Community College, which is the closest one to 313 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: GHA Field Atirhead Stadium, but this is an incredible Another 314 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: one of the stories, it's very much like the Benson kid. 315 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: Where he started at Juco, was underrecruited. Now he's in 316 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: the combine. 317 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 4: It's crazy. 318 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: Last one I have on the Missouri side, Arizona State 319 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: linebacker Keishawn Elliott went to Richmond High School. 320 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, the fighting Spartans. Here's another interesting story. So we've 321 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: all followed what's happened at Vanderbilt right. In fact, they 322 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: got one of the top tight ends in this draft. 323 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: But there are local guys that coach Vanderbilt that have 324 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: turned that program around. Tim Beck is one, grew up 325 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: in the in the Chief's Kingdom. 326 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: Another one is. 327 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: Jerry kill Ye and Jerry kill is one of the 328 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: more interesting football figures in our nation, and he just 329 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: keeps popping up. But they recruited this guy because they 330 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: would recruit Kansas City, they would go get the guy 331 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: that was maybe the Power Fours would overlook and they 332 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't go Juco necessarily, but they'd grabbed this guy and 333 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: he started in New Mexico State, which is the Manhattan Project, 334 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: which has never lost the game since you've played them 335 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: on Madden. And I'm a sorry on Madden on College. 336 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: Football played a lot of that over the last few months. 337 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: But Back and Kill and their staff found this kid 338 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: at Richmond for the Fighting Spartans. He goes in New 339 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: Mexico State, then from there he transfers on it becomes 340 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: a dude. 341 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: He's a factor in this combine. 342 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's cool with all these guys. It brings it 343 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: a little bit closer to home. It shows there's players 344 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 3: in this area that give absolutely everything and now they 345 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 3: have a chance to live out their dream. And that's 346 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 3: in a way what the combine is. With the athletic testing, 347 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: with the medical amy interviews, it is the world's greatest 348 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: job interview where you've played football your whole life as 349 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: a kid, as a young man, and now you have 350 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: a chance to show professional evaluators. I can do this 351 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: at the professional level, and some people knock it out 352 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: of the park. 353 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: Some don't. 354 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: But these guys, all from around this area have a 355 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,800 Speaker 3: chance next week to do something pretty special. And maybe 356 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: one of them or two or three, who knows, ends 357 00:15:58,760 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 3: up in Kansas City, we'll see. 358 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: Can I throw another one into get him on? 359 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: That was Let me know if I forget anybody, I'm 360 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: sure I did. 361 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: Sam Hacked, the k State kid who played at Mill Valley? Yeah? 362 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: Sure, And Mill Valley is one of the powers in 363 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: the entire Chiefs Kingdom. They are always challenging for a 364 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: state championship. In football, they too have pumped out so 365 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: many Division One players and NFL players. In fact, the 366 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: tight end for Denver who was the baseball pitcher played 367 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: at Mill Valley. Think Lucas Crol, Yeah, Lucas Croll's and 368 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: Mill Valley Jaguar. And he'll be on the field this 369 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: year for the Denver Broncos. He was hurt last year start, 370 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: but Hacked had a great Senior Bowl. 371 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 372 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: And so now all of a sudden, who's a like 373 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: an interior offensive lineman. And people see Cooper Beebe and 374 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: what he has done for the Dallas Cowboys. And he's 375 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: another local player at Piper, played at k C Piper. 376 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: Now he's the starting Cowboy center. Heck's another one interesting 377 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: to watch the combine. If he could follow up what 378 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: he did at the Senior Bowl. 379 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 3: Sure, I think about guys last year like Ariante Urseri 380 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: ended up in Houston. 381 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 4: I think placek and High or tackle for them Ruskin 382 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 4: High School. You know it's cool. 383 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 3: These players come from our area and they end up 384 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: being good players in the league. Jalen Noel on the 385 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 3: Texans wide receiver. Good player for them went tark Kill Trojan, Yeah, 386 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: park Hill. So we'll see where these guys end up. 387 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 3: But it's always fun kind of learning a little bit 388 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 3: about the local players at the Combine. It's a kind 389 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 3: of a local feel on it. I don't know, kudos 390 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 3: for you, though, Kudos for you for giving it attention. 391 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 4: Now my two hours of googling it pays off. 392 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: You know, it pays off. 393 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: It is great, and I hope Chiefs fans appreciate it. 394 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: We didn't get into Nebraska and Iowan. Some locals when 395 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: people listen to games, they like that because I'll bring 396 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: them up. They'll play for the other team, and I'll 397 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: bring them up that they're from Seward, Nebraska or you know, lenox, Iowa. 398 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: But I just think it's part of the kingdom when 399 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 1: guys are on this list and go to the Combine 400 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 1: and grew up here. Most of these guys, I would 401 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: bet are Chiefs fans. 402 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. It's always fun when they're 403 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 3: doing their media sessions. If I have time, I'll do this. 404 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: I'll ask one of them, like, what what do I 405 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 3: mean if the Chiefs called your name? And they always 406 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: look a little bit different, right, like reporters from all 407 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 3: over the country ask them, Hey, what if whatever team 408 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:07,679 Speaker 3: drafted you, they'd be like, oh, I you know, love 409 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 3: to go to work for them. 410 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: Whatever. 411 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 3: But when you ask these Chiefs fans what would it 412 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: mean to go play for the Chiefs? They take a 413 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 3: minute and you could tell how much it would mean 414 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 3: to them. It's pretty cool. With this in mind. We 415 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 3: haven't gone around the world yet and. 416 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: I have come. 417 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: Oh my bad, how many you got? 418 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 4: I got three? 419 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 2: Three? Really? 420 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 3: Two and one is just like an update, so a 421 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 3: two plus an update. 422 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: So we could put John Michael Gillenborg's parents on here 423 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: because they listen to the defending that whatever they got 424 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: to do to eat up the nine hour drive. 425 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: Shout out to the Gillenborgs, Yeah, we appreciate you. Shout 426 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 3: out to Jim in western North Carolina near Asheville. He 427 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 3: grew up in Chiefs Kingdom though, and when he lived 428 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: in Casey, k he turned the volume down on the TV, 429 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 3: turn you up, as one does. Having some trouble doing 430 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: that now though, and He had a question, can people 431 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,880 Speaker 3: listen to the radio broadcast like outside. 432 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: Of our market. 433 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 2: They can. 434 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: They have to go online to do it. Okay, they 435 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: can do it. Okay, it's there and you can sync 436 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: it up real easy to do it. My ninety two 437 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: year old dad does I said, you need to put 438 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: out a like an online primer. 439 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:11,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got it. 440 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 3: So Jim, check out the Chiefs Radio Network website at 441 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: Ashville's gorgeous. 442 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've never been there. 443 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: Home of you and c Asheville. Right, it's it's the 444 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 1: Western Carolina Mountains. It's it's really one of the great 445 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: places in our nation. 446 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 4: Got to check it out. 447 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: And the terrible floods not long ago. 448 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 3: We got a listener in Brandon, Mississippi. Are you familiar 449 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:33,719 Speaker 3: with Brandon? 450 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: I am not. 451 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll have to check that out as well. And 452 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 3: here's the updates. We have an update on where Lincoln, 453 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Missouri is. Remember we were perplexed by that. I was 454 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 3: concerned that I. 455 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 2: Just Lincoln University, Lincoln Prep, but it is not going 456 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 2: to do it. Where is this? 457 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 3: So it's a small town off sixty five Highway south 458 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 3: of the fifty two and sixty five junction. Near Coal 459 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: Camp in Windsor. 460 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 4: Does that help you? 461 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 2: Yes? 462 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: Why did we not know we're lin Missouri? Is because 463 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 1: Cole Camp. There's like this huge German festival there, okay, 464 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: and they have like the best German food on the 465 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: planet other than Germany. 466 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 2: Wow. 467 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's a big Windsor Cole Camp. I guess Lincoln, Lincoln. Yeah, 468 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: it's like a big German heritage place, Okay, so I 469 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: don't have to have a It's like the Wienerschnitzel Festival 470 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: or something. And then Windsor I think was the home 471 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: of one of our old security guys, Herman. 472 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 2: Sure, of course. 473 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,440 Speaker 1: His name was Herman Herman. Yeah, and his head's like gigantic. 474 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: But he was actually Joe Montana's bodyguard when he was 475 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: really Yeah, he was like the team bodyguard for Joe. 476 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: Wow. 477 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty cool. 478 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: Kicked me out of camp one day because I didn't 479 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: have my pass and I'm like, well, I'm the voice 480 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: of the Chiefs. 481 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't care. 482 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 1: If you're the King of England, you better run back 483 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: to the Norm and get your pass, which was like 484 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: a mile away. 485 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 2: I ran like a mile. 486 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, secondh my god, I'm gonna get fired. 487 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: And so Herman sher was a great guy. That's pretty 488 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: sure he's from Windsor. 489 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 3: There's a It reminds me there's some road games that 490 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: we'll be at and like Mitch and I, we have 491 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 3: to have our credentials out. 492 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 4: We have to scan in everywhere we go. 493 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 3: Normally the players don't have to do that, but there 494 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 3: are some stadiums that we've been to where the players 495 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 3: and the coaches have to scan their credential to get 496 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 3: in the locker room. And I remember one time, like Mahomes, 497 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: his credential wasn't working and the security guy was just 498 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 3: standing right there, arms crossed, like you can't go in. 499 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 3: It's like, this is Patrick Mahomes. I can vouch, you know, 500 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: but hey, taking their job seriously. You know, I guess 501 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 3: they're pretty recognizable guy, but you. 502 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: Know, maybe you thought it was the fake Patrick Mahomes 503 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: that our people are putting on, like AI. 504 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 4: Patrick m Yeah. 505 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: Maybe. 506 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: So anyway, we're fired up to go to the combine. 507 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: One area that we know that all Kingdom Defenders are 508 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: watching is which room wide receiver? Oh yeah, and uh 509 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 1: curious what the Chiefs will do. Potentially at nine we'll 510 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: get into the weeds of that pick at the combine, 511 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 1: and later there's an impressive group of wide receivers that 512 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: will be at the combine and could be potential picks 513 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 1: at nine. But this episode is also going to focus 514 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:08,119 Speaker 1: on who is the new leader of that room. Interesting story. 515 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes you can circle around. I say, life's a Monopoly board. 516 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: If you've ever played Monopoly, either virtually or like just 517 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,400 Speaker 1: with the physical board game, you go round and round 518 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: and round. Sometimes you go around twenty times and come 519 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 1: back to the same place. Here's our chat with Wide 520 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: Receivers coach Chat o'she okay, I put this on social media. 521 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: What to Wes Welker, Randy Moss, Julian Edelman, Brandon Cooks, 522 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: Danny Amandola Jarvis, Landry Amari Cooper, and Jerry Judy all 523 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: have in common they were coached by this guy, the 524 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,959 Speaker 1: Chief's new Wide Receivers coach Chad o'she Sometimes you can 525 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: go full circle. 526 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,400 Speaker 2: Brother, it's been over twenty years. 527 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: You're back. 528 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, I am back, and I'm so excited to be back. 529 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's really pretty awesome for me. It's like 530 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 5: full circle being here in two thousand and three, where 531 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 5: I start my NFL career and then be back here again. 532 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,680 Speaker 5: I mean, it's an exciting time for me. I know 533 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: my family's also excited about the opportunity and we're just 534 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 5: can't wait to get started. 535 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 1: Now. 536 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 3: It's been over twenty years since you coached here. But 537 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 3: what do you remember about Kansas City and the football 538 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: culture here in town? 539 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean this is unique. This is a culture 540 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 5: that's unique. It's one that you'll never forget. And that 541 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 5: was one of the things that attracted me to come 542 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 5: back here is just kind of the power of Kansas City, 543 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 5: the power of the organization, and I think the powers 544 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 5: in its people. You know, the people here in the 545 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 5: city and the organization are just outstanding. And it was 546 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: an easy decision for me to come back here, or 547 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: have the opportunity to come back here to work for 548 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 5: coach Ree, but to come back to an organization that 549 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 5: I knew so well and have just a tremendous amount 550 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 5: of respect for and mainly because of his people. 551 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: I was going to ask him being back on this building, 552 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: but this building didn't exist when you were here last time. 553 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 3: All buildings knew he used to be in the stadium, right, Yeah, 554 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,159 Speaker 3: So when I. 555 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: Came here and people talked about this building being an 556 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 5: aging building. I was in the stadium when our office stay, 557 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 5: so you know, I have some great memories in the 558 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: stadium there where offices were, and just great memories of 559 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 5: Coach for Meal and a lot of the great players 560 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 5: that at the time we were fortunate enough to coach 561 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 5: and be around. And I know I've stayed in contact 562 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: with Coach for Meal. He's a mentor to myself and 563 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 5: and just think so highly of him. And it's it's 564 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 5: just ironic that I got an opportunity to work for 565 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 5: Coach for Meal, Hall of Fame coach, and now I 566 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 5: have an opportunity to work for coach Red and those 567 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 5: two are obviously connected. So it's really, uh, just an 568 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 5: awesome time for me to get back here, and I 569 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 5: just again can't wait to get started with what is 570 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,679 Speaker 5: going to be a great year. 571 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: For us and I look forward to it. 572 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,119 Speaker 1: You look good and read it just felt like it 573 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 1: was wrong to have you on the other sideline, including 574 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 1: three playoff games against you as an opponent. But it's 575 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: great to have you back here. But I want to 576 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: ask I'm going to get into the kind of the 577 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: weeds of the position here. And you've been around I 578 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 1: mentioned all those guys, but some of those guys led 579 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: the NFL in receptions. You've been around high production receivers. 580 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: How do you balance the high production and within the 581 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: scheme and you might get ten targets one week and 582 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,360 Speaker 1: two the next. 583 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 2: How do you handle that and coach that? Yeah? 584 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 5: And I've been very fortunate to be around some great 585 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 5: players who had different skill sets. And what's common with 586 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 5: all the great players is they're competitive and. 587 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 2: They want the football. 588 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 5: And I think that's okay to want the football and 589 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 5: to be a part of a winning offense. The balance 590 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 5: comes into what can we do to put the team 591 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 5: first in areas that might be outside of just catching 592 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,640 Speaker 5: the football and having your name on the stat line. 593 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 5: And I think that's what's really important for myself. They're 594 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 5: going to feel that when I'm in the room with 595 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 5: them that we are going to put the team first 596 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 5: and that's where it's going to start. And with that, 597 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 5: we can also attain every goal that they want for 598 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 5: themselves and ultimately those goals that will help us as 599 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,640 Speaker 5: a team if they can those. So I think there 600 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 5: is a balance, and I think that's the key that 601 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,479 Speaker 5: you have to just understand that there is a balance 602 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 5: and also know where those players are coming from. They're 603 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 5: highly decorated players who are very competitive and want the 604 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 5: football and are deserving of the football, and that will 605 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 5: help us win. But at the same time, we're going 606 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 5: to do other things to really help this Kansas City 607 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,719 Speaker 5: football team win. 608 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: Now, when you think about your early days as a 609 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 3: professional coach in Kansas City over twenty years ago, all 610 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: the time that's the past, and the teams that you've 611 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 3: worked for in the time since, where do you think 612 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 3: you've grown most as a coach over the last two decades. 613 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, my growth has been with the opportunity I've had 614 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,359 Speaker 5: with these great players and great coaches to be around. 615 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 5: And I've learned more from these players and coaches than 616 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 5: i have from any video or any man, you know. 617 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 5: And again, I've been so fortunate throughout all my stops 618 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 5: to have people that I have just tremendous amount of 619 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 5: respect for, not only in coaching, but those players. I've 620 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,199 Speaker 5: learned a lot from players, and you know, every up 621 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,360 Speaker 5: along the way, I've picked up something small from each 622 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 5: of those experiences with those people, and it's kind of 623 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 5: led me to sit here and be able to bring 624 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: the best I have to help the Cancer Chiefs win. 625 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: You've won Super Bowl rings, You've been a coordinator. Football 626 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: teams have different subcultures. An offense will have be a subculture, 627 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,880 Speaker 1: but then a wide receiver room becomes a sub subculture. 628 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 2: How do you develop a. 629 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 1: Room that mirrors what coach wants for the team and 630 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: for the offense. 631 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the first thing is we have to 632 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 5: be aligned with what Coach Reid wants in his vision 633 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 5: for the football team. And we do that in doing 634 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 5: our job and being dependable and being detailed. I'll use those. 635 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: Words over and over. 636 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 5: Those are going to be words that you're going to 637 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 5: hear me speak a lot here in Kansas City. If like, 638 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 5: we need to be dependable in detail for this team, 639 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 5: and it all starts with being aligned with the vision 640 00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 5: that we have as a football team. I know the 641 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 5: vision I have as the receivers. Again, it's going to 642 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 5: have the word team in it, and that's going to 643 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: be put the team first and everything we do. And 644 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 5: I think if we put the team first and everything 645 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 5: we do, then that's going to be aligned with what 646 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 5: coach reads vision is for this football team. 647 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 3: You mentioned you worked for a lot of great head 648 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,920 Speaker 3: coaches over the years. Was there ever a piece of 649 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 3: advice or maybe just some a workflow that you observed 650 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: that kind of inspired the coach that you are today. 651 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that it started right here in Kansas 652 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 5: City with coach for Meal. I mean coach for Meial 653 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 5: really valued the relationship part of coaching and I learned 654 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 5: that from him, and that is something that is held 655 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 5: very true. You know. I think that one of the 656 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 5: most important things you can do as a coach is 657 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 5: to develop a relationship with your players and everything starts there. 658 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 5: Without that, you have nothing, And that's something that you 659 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 5: can say, but it's a lot harder to do, and 660 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,480 Speaker 5: it takes some investment on both ends. And I think 661 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 5: that's something I'm really looking forward to here, developing relationships 662 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 5: with people I've never met before. And I just think 663 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 5: that there's power in people, There's power in relationships, and 664 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 5: that's what I look forward to doing here. 665 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 1: Chad, the last couple of years, I think in the league, 666 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: maybe he's changed a little bit. We've seen guys like 667 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: Pokinakua that have risen Jackson Smith and Jigba this year, 668 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: or Cooper Cup where it seems like precision and persistence, 669 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: so the forty times, yes, but what have you learned 670 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: and particularly the list of the guys that you've coached, 671 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: and you mentioned this already, but precision with persistence and consistency. 672 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that you know, I value at the 673 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 5: receiver position is important and it is anything is being 674 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 5: detailed in everything we do. So when they say, hey, 675 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 5: the routes at ten yards, we need to be at 676 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 5: ten yards, and if we're where we need to be 677 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 5: at the right time for the quarterback that we have playing, 678 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 5: good things will happen. I think sometimes that can become 679 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 5: more important than a for time or some of the 680 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 5: things that are measurable physically. Is just the tangibles of 681 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: the receiver position, of the detail, the dependability, the persistence, 682 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 5: you know, being able to have a drop pass and 683 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 5: then to get back in the huddle and be persistent 684 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 5: enough to be able to be there for your team 685 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 5: on the next play. And I think that what I've 686 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: learned over my career and some of the guys I've coached, 687 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 5: that's maybe more important than any forty time or any 688 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 5: height or weight that we have on these players. 689 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 4: This is a tough question. 690 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: To answer right now, we're just getting started. But fast 691 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: forward six months when people from around the league are 692 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: looking at our wide receiver room, what do you want 693 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 3: the identity of this wide receiver room to be? 694 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's something that the identity, even though 695 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 5: we can look at it six months from now, I 696 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 5: think it starts like rate now, you know and rate 697 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 5: when these players come in the building. And I think 698 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 5: that the identity we want in our team again is 699 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 5: in our receivers is we're going to put the team 700 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 5: first in everything we do. It starts with that. And 701 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 5: if we can do that, then we can do everything 702 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 5: on an individual goal basis that we need to, but 703 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: it's going to start with putting the team first. You're 704 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 5: going to have a group that's going to be able 705 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 5: to play fast from the line of scrimmage and to 706 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 5: be able to block and compete in the run game. 707 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 5: And I keep it real simple in my teaching. I say, 708 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 5: get open, catch the ball, and compete in the run game. 709 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 5: If you do those three things, we stand a chance 710 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 5: to win at the receiver position. So and that's how 711 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 5: I've always been with my teaching, whether it's an individual 712 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 5: route or just our identity when you ask me about that, 713 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: Let's just keep it simple. We're going to get open, 714 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 5: catch the ball, and compete in the run game, or 715 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 5: try to try to do those things to help us. 716 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 1: Win the tight window catch. This isn't a contested catch. 717 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 1: This is you're open for a fraction of a second 718 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: and our division has excellent defensive backs Chargers do, Broncos do, 719 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: and in AFC the Texans do. Where you may have 720 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: a fraction of a second where you're open and another 721 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 1: fraction of a second to catch it before they arrive. 722 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: How about teaching that and that because I'm mean a 723 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: weapon for this thing. 724 00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's something like, as you say talking 725 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 5: about our division, you're going to get guys that are 726 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 5: gonna be able to cover. And it's so important that 727 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 5: we are able to function in those high traffic areas. 728 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: I call them contested catches and traffic catches, you know, 729 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 5: traffic type throws where there's going to be some type 730 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 5: of distraction because the defender is going to be close 731 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 5: to you, or our ability to make a play in 732 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 5: a contested area. I do think you can improve in 733 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 5: those areas. It's something that you know we can improve 734 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,959 Speaker 5: on daily. I have a plan in place for our 735 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 5: players when we get started in the spring, whether it's 736 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,239 Speaker 5: drill work, film work, teaching. From my experience with these 737 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 5: past players that I've been fortunate to be around, I mean, 738 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 5: we're going to get started on that, and I do 739 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 5: think it's an area you can improve and we'll have 740 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,160 Speaker 5: to be good in those areas because you made a 741 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 5: great point. In our division, there's very competitive coverage players. 742 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: You had a wide receiver room with Tom Brady as 743 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Now you've got a wide receiver room with 744 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes as the quarterback. 745 00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 2: What about that? 746 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's awesome like to be to coach 747 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 5: the receivers and to have accomplished quarterbacks and to be 748 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 5: with Patrick Mahomes. I mean, you know, like my wife says, Hey, 749 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 5: we're going to Kansas City, and she was so excited 750 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 5: and she knew one of the attractions obviously was Patrick 751 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 5: Mahomes and being the receiver coach for a you know, 752 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 5: quarterback like Pat. I just can't I've had an opportunity 753 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 5: to meet him. I'm so excited. I just can't wait 754 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,959 Speaker 5: to get started, you know. And I was at an 755 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 5: organization that went through some quarterback changes recently, and I 756 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 5: know the importance of having a established leader at that 757 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 5: position and how important that is to the guys that 758 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 5: I coach. So I can't wait. With Patrick and again 759 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 5: working with Tom for all those years, I'm sure that 760 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 5: I'm going to end up seeing a lot of similarities 761 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:49,920 Speaker 5: between those two. 762 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,719 Speaker 1: And we can't wait to see what the wide receiver 763 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: room is going to look like with Chad O'shay as 764 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: our wide receivers coach. So exciting to have chatt O'shee 765 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: lead that room. Man, he has gone through a lot 766 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: of life in twenty years since he was here the 767 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: first time. 768 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, very impressive guy, so cool. He was here in 769 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 3: two thousand and three just a volunteer assistant and now 770 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 3: to be back here all these years later with a 771 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: wealth of experience under his belt to help get this 772 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 3: offense back on track. 773 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 4: Pretty exciting. 774 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was. 775 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: Frank Ganz Junior's like special teams like helper. We might 776 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: have coached the special teams more than we know that. 777 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 2: That'll be later. Just signed. 778 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later, Crash Junior. Okay, what do 779 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: we have lined up for programming? Because as we close here, 780 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: we're going to just we want to take you to 781 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: Indianapolis with us, and so we've got a lot of 782 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: things planned. 783 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, we do. 784 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 3: So we'll be there for a handful of days. We're 785 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 3: going to do a podcast from there. We'll talk about 786 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 3: some position groups that we're interested in, some players specifically 787 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 3: that we're interested in. We'll also do a live stream 788 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 3: from there. Not exactly sure what day that's going to be, 789 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 3: but like kind of middle of the week at some 790 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 3: point we'll let everybody know. 791 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 4: We'll do a live stream. 792 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 3: We're hopefully going to have Brett viach the show, either 793 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 3: the podcast or the live stream, maybe both. Maybe some 794 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 3: more front office people and a bunch of media people 795 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 3: as well, because that's one of the cool parts of 796 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 3: the combine is like anyone who is anyone in terms 797 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 3: of NFL media will be there. We're going to try 798 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,360 Speaker 3: to talk to them about players that they like for 799 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 3: the Chiefs, off season, outlook for the Chiefs, just their 800 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 3: opinion on the Chiefs in general. We'll talk to him 801 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 3: about that. So should be pretty cool. It'll be fun, 802 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 3: and we'll eat a lot of steak and shrimp cocktail too. 803 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,440 Speaker 2: Yep. 804 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: Going to sant Elmos for the Get the be the 805 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: wet the palette, and clear the nostrils. All right, we're 806 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 1: headed Indianapolis. You will be too if you join us. 807 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 1: So just follow us and what will bring you from Indianapolis. 808 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: He is Matt McMullen, senior JE reporter. I'm Mitchelta's voice 809 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: to the chiefs. Thanks for joining us on this pre 810 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,360 Speaker 1: combine edition of Defending the Kingdom.