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Speaker 7: Man lo us to discuss on Talking Cowboys. It's been
Speaker 7: a ten days since.
Speaker 1: Our last episode. Long time.
Speaker 7: We had a lot to discuss. Last time we were
Speaker 7: on here, we didn't have a defensive coordinator, and now
Speaker 7: we do, Fellas, we have a defensive coordinator to talk about.
Speaker 7: And guess what, young buck? It is a young buck.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, spring chicken freshman, fresh face, fresh freshman and
Speaker 3: from a rival team.
Speaker 1: No less man.
Speaker 7: So you made the Eagles lesser and you pick up
Speaker 7: a young man, and then if he becomes a head coach,
Speaker 7: you also.
Speaker 1: Get draft picked.
Speaker 7: A lot not too shity, and I think people like
Speaker 7: this guy.
Speaker 1: Guys, we have to talk about. Let's Shoty Cook.
Speaker 7: Christian Parker defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Guys.
Speaker 7: Reactions to this Philly fans were struggling. At first, it
Speaker 7: was no, please, don't take him, and then after we
Speaker 7: hired him, it's like trying to be like us. Yeah,
Speaker 7: then it sucks anyway, not that good. Cooper would be great.
Speaker 6: Shut your that shut your face. Okay, at the end
Speaker 6: of the day, let's just put it in perspective. Yeah
Speaker 6: reactions please, Yeah, so let's put in perspective. And I
Speaker 6: should have I should have had a sign today. Oh,
Speaker 6: I should have had a sign. This take does not
Speaker 6: imply the Cowboys of going to the Super Bowl. I
Speaker 6: should have had no because this is the Seahawks going
Speaker 6: Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 6: Tank was right, So yeah, but I will say yeah
Speaker 6: and I like it, but he would say yes, Christian
Speaker 6: Parker has a good bit to prove. This is his
Speaker 6: first time in the seat as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Congress to him.
Speaker 6: So congrats to him, thirty thirty four year old, fast
Speaker 6: rising defensive mind who is responsible for the development of
Speaker 6: guys such as Patrick Curtain.
Speaker 1: Heard of that guy before? Yeah, I've heard of Patrick.
Speaker 1: Hurt's pretty Is he a mvpism? Yeah, Hurt is pretty
Speaker 1: damn good.
Speaker 6: And also after certain came the development of Cooper de
Speaker 6: jen and Quinya Mitchell. Both of those guys got a
Speaker 6: an All Pro not in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: It wasn't second team, was it? It was first team? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: sot pretty damn good.
Speaker 6: I said on that to say, Christian Parker, even though
Speaker 6: he's only thirty four, he's already established a resume of
Speaker 6: being able to develop cornerbacks into greatness. Now, does that
Speaker 6: mean instantly that the Cowboys don't have to do any
Speaker 6: work to get him the personnel he.
Speaker 1: Needs, No, Nona, not what that means at home? All right, they.
Speaker 6: Still need to do their personnel work free agency and
Speaker 6: in the draft to get him guys, but it does
Speaker 6: give you a lot of promise for a guy like
Speaker 6: Savon Revel. Once he's completely healthy and he gets a
Speaker 6: full off season under his belt, this will be now
Speaker 6: a first off season healthy and under Christian Parker.
Speaker 1: So this is a clean slate for a guy like
Speaker 1: Savul Rebel. I like those words. Patrick.
Speaker 7: Now turning to Isaiah, what were your first reactions whenever
Speaker 7: we signed Christian Parker to be our defensive coordinator. Didn't
Speaker 7: know who he was. Tell you straight up, before the
Speaker 7: coaching search, I had no idea who he.
Speaker 1: Was, had no idea who he was.
Speaker 3: But after extensive research and tapping in with my resources,
Speaker 3: I've gained an understanding for who he is, a respect
Speaker 3: and a high regard for what he's done. His climb
Speaker 3: quickly ranks, Yep, quickly. That's something we were talking about.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Obviously I was in on some of the old school cats,
Speaker 3: that the old ways, but I also said, if they
Speaker 3: don't go that way, they need to grab one of
Speaker 3: these young tender loins that that can connect with this generation, right,
Speaker 3: Because that was one of the conversations we had. His
Speaker 3: ability ability to connect with the guys in the locker room.
Speaker 7: We were talking about that from the beginning. No matter
Speaker 7: who the candidate was, it needed to be a guy
Speaker 7: that could relate to the players and coach them up
Speaker 7: in that way and teach them.
Speaker 3: And everything that I've heard about this man is just
Speaker 3: that right. Ability to connect, his ability to teach, the
Speaker 3: ability to not only just teach, but those for it
Speaker 3: to be receptive. So those guys are receiving what he's
Speaker 3: teaching and excited about working with him. So I am
Speaker 3: now excited going back and looking at some of the coverages.
Speaker 3: Love that, love that, I love everything about that. But
Speaker 3: now you know, my you know, after the excitement kind
Speaker 3: of wears off. Now you know, I look towards the support.
Speaker 3: I look towards the support and the staff. All.
Speaker 1: Let me say this. I am.
Speaker 3: You know, obviously it is. This person is of greater
Speaker 3: age than I am. But I can still be proud
Speaker 3: of somebody that's older than I Am proud of mister
Speaker 3: double J. I am proud of Double J. I'm proud
Speaker 3: of Stephen Jones.
Speaker 7: It sounds like they're changing their tune a little bit.
Speaker 3: It's not even just the tune, it is they're listening.
Speaker 3: They're listening. And when you're in a position of power
Speaker 3: where you have the all mighty hand right and all
Speaker 3: you know, they'll all all say the you can listen, right,
Speaker 3: or you can hear people, but you don't have to
Speaker 3: listen to them.
Speaker 1: And you can't hear Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't hear jim can I So I mean listening, yeah,
Speaker 3: cowboys exactly. But two, over this last year, we've seen
Speaker 3: a change in the front office. Over this last year,
Speaker 3: we've seen those guys be more willing to stand on
Speaker 3: business in regards to the people that they believe in
Speaker 3: and people they don't believe in. We've seen them stand
Speaker 3: on business in terms of going out and acquiring free agents.
Speaker 3: We've seen them stand on business in terms of making
Speaker 3: trades and being more aggressive in that regard. And now
Speaker 3: we're seeing them stand on business and change the ways
Speaker 3: in which they have hired and all these things are
Speaker 3: in are indicative to the fact that they have their
Speaker 3: eyes open and they are humbling themselves to understand that
Speaker 3: the old ways haven't worked and we have to adapt.
Speaker 7: Let me say this really quickly, though, I don't think
Speaker 7: it was. It's not a night and day transition, because
Speaker 7: they did start off last season doing something very interesting
Speaker 7: in hiring Schottenheimer, which was not the sexy pick. It
Speaker 7: was not the guy that was very unconventional for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: But then they also hired Matt Eberflus to be your DC,
Speaker 7: a known guy with head coaching experience. So this is
Speaker 7: a project that they've done many times before.
Speaker 1: It didn't work out.
Speaker 7: So now, at least for me, it's not necessarily indicative
Speaker 7: of the Joneses and the front office listening to That's
Speaker 7: what I mean. It's like it is indicative of them
Speaker 7: listening to what Shody has to say, because I think
Speaker 7: they picked the right guy for sure. I think they
Speaker 7: picked Shoddy as a difference maker for the culture and
Speaker 7: for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 3: As a whole.
Speaker 7: But now they gained his trust throughout this season. Obviously
Speaker 7: ebraflues didn't work out, they accepted it. It's like, Okay,
Speaker 7: now we're onto our fourth, fourth DC in four years.
Speaker 7: So now the extensive exhaustive search that was taking place
Speaker 7: for this DC, because we heard about all the names
Speaker 7: that were brought to us over the several weeks that
Speaker 7: the interviews were taking place. I mean, for me, like
Speaker 7: we talked about, the most obvious at the time was
Speaker 7: Arizona coordinator Jonathan Jonathan Cannon Gannon, who was head coach
Speaker 7: for the Cardinals over the last few seasons. That was
Speaker 7: the most obvious because it's like, oh, yes, head coaching experience,
Speaker 7: there's some relations there that Okay, there it is. There's
Speaker 7: the pick, right, except things are different now because of
Speaker 7: the trust that they have and shoddy And it wasn't
Speaker 7: just Jonathan Gannon or else that would have been it, right,
Speaker 7: It would have been maybe two or three guys like that,
Speaker 7: and then it's like, okay, let's go with Gannon. It
Speaker 7: was an extensive search and exhaustive search. That word has
Speaker 7: been used quite a bit by the front office, by
Speaker 7: Will McClay, by Stephen Jones, and it's accurate. And there
Speaker 7: was a lot of names flying around and guys that
Speaker 7: you wouldn't expect the Dallas Cowboys to interview in a
Speaker 7: position like this prior to this offseason.
Speaker 1: So I like that.
Speaker 7: I'm kind of interested now in what type of DC
Speaker 7: Christian Parker will be because now he's as a play caller,
Speaker 7: because this is his first time calling plays, and he's
Speaker 7: coming from the Fangio tree, which has proven to be
Speaker 7: pretty successful.
Speaker 1: Blue print.
Speaker 7: It's a blueprint. So I ask you, guys, teacher has
Speaker 7: been brought up a lot. What kind of DC will
Speaker 7: Christian Parker be?
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna be a single high safety, low
Speaker 3: the box. You're not going to run the ball on us,
Speaker 3: and we're gonna trust our defensive backs to be able
Speaker 3: to cover your guys.
Speaker 1: That's what I foresee, and that's a Fangio defense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, too, high shell, light box, make the QB take
Speaker 7: the checkdown on corners, can tackle, safeties, can rotate.
Speaker 6: That's basically what to that point kind of circling back,
Speaker 6: because yes, that means you're going to ask a lot
Speaker 6: of your cornerbacks in that single high safety a lot.
Speaker 6: That means that you, the DC and your position coaches
Speaker 6: have to excel at teaching and developing, which means you
Speaker 6: have to make sure all of the information that you're
Speaker 6: giving forth is digestible and that you're connecting. Those two
Speaker 6: things were severely lacking in the one year Eberflus era,
Speaker 6: and they have to be capable, and they have to
Speaker 6: be capable, So that goes back to what I said initially.
Speaker 6: Does this mean instantly that Christian Parker is going to
Speaker 6: solve all the issues? No, that means we'll see if
Speaker 6: he's the right guy for the job. But feels as
Speaker 6: if he is. He is proven, he's a fast riser.
Speaker 6: But you have to get him the pieces. You have
Speaker 6: to get him the personnel. If those two things jive up,
Speaker 6: will and you get these position coaches lined up the
Speaker 6: right way. We're seeing some real interesting names coming down
Speaker 6: the pike as far as these interviews for these position coaches.
Speaker 6: And that's another thing you could see the Schottenheimer and
Speaker 6: now the Christian Parker effect on let me build this
Speaker 6: defensive staff as I see fit, and I can get
Speaker 6: some things done for you.
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you.
Speaker 7: But one thing that I've heard, well, outstanding teacher, that
Speaker 7: was a quote from Stephen Jones about one of he's
Speaker 7: interviewing Christian Parker. That was one thing that they brought up.
Speaker 7: But another thing that they brought up in terms of
Speaker 7: using the pieces that we currently have to make the
Speaker 7: defense better.
Speaker 1: At the end of the this is from Stephen Jones.
Speaker 7: At the end of the day, it was Christian's vision
Speaker 7: the wrinkles he can bring that would fit the pieces
Speaker 7: we have in place, And a few of those names
Speaker 7: popped up. He's talking about Savone Revel, talked about Demarvin
Speaker 7: overshown as pieces that are currently here that can work
Speaker 7: with Christian Parker's vision. I'm I'm thankful to hear those
Speaker 7: words because a lot of these players I think didn't
Speaker 7: have a fair shake. I think Savon Revel's season was
Speaker 7: tumultuous at best, but I think a lot of that
Speaker 7: was the communication with with Kaylen Carson.
Speaker 1: I'm in greatest game. He just got yanked.
Speaker 7: But a name that wasn't brought up, a name that
Speaker 7: wasn't brought up by the front office by Shaddy. You're
Speaker 7: not really necessarily hearing that, but Shavone Revel was a
Speaker 7: big one.
Speaker 6: That Yeah, And I think that really quickly, Melvin, If
Speaker 6: you want to know, the biggest negative is the obvious,
Speaker 6: which is he's never called plays before. That's so that
Speaker 6: means TBD on his ability to call plays, and that
Speaker 6: also means they will be growing pains as he learns
Speaker 6: how to grow plays and learns how to you know,
Speaker 6: what plays. It's called situationally, So Melvin and all those wondering. Yes,
Speaker 6: we're talking about the positives right now, but we cannot
Speaker 6: stress enough the glaring I don't want to say negative,
Speaker 6: but the glaring question mark, which is can he and
Speaker 6: how quickly can he develop his play calling ability? So
Speaker 6: that's obvious, but personnel is going to be key. What
Speaker 6: I like what Steven said there, but the reporter and
Speaker 6: me flips it the other way and says, Okay, Now
Speaker 6: my question becomes, does that mean that you're not going
Speaker 6: to be aggressive and acquiring new guys? Because I fear
Speaker 6: having covered this team for so long that I love
Speaker 6: the Shoddy effect right now. I love it twenty twenty
Speaker 6: six and beyond. Not a good bit in twenty five,
Speaker 6: but not on the defensive side of the ball. Becausett
Speaker 6: eber Fluss was the front office higher but now in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six we're getting.
Speaker 1: The full Shoddy effect.
Speaker 6: How much of that is going to continue to extend
Speaker 6: to making trades like they did for George Pickens and
Speaker 6: Quinn Williams and bringing in guys like Javonte Williams, who
Speaker 6: was a risk at the time. And our good friend
Speaker 6: Isaiah stanmbeckxtill on the table and said these guys are
Speaker 6: going to be something for the Cowboys, and he was
Speaker 6: absolutely right. But that level of aggression in free agency
Speaker 6: needs to continue, if not ratchet up just a little
Speaker 6: bit because as it stands, this defensive personnel keeping in mind,
Speaker 6: you have a good bit of these guys going into
Speaker 6: free agency right now as well, Donovan Wilson being one
Speaker 6: that come to mind immediately. What's the development of mayor
Speaker 6: Stofile now look like under Christian Parker for example?
Speaker 1: So because they need fast linebackers and.
Speaker 6: Snail wise, you got you got some got some questions
Speaker 6: that need to be answered.
Speaker 7: One question that I wanted to ask at least is expectations.
Speaker 7: You kind of touched on it as well. I mean,
Speaker 7: this is a first time play color as far as
Speaker 7: a coordinator role for him goes. Would you say that
Speaker 7: he's here to raise the floor or actually touch like
Speaker 7: top five defenses in the league right now? Like, what
Speaker 7: do you think the expectations.
Speaker 1: Are for year one? Yeah? What are yours? Just personally?
Speaker 7: What are mid tier middle? Yeah that's not a little
Speaker 7: take too. If you have a top tier offense.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, if you if you get top sixteen,
Speaker 3: if your top six we said this right to talk
Speaker 3: about if we say this on Talking Cowboy, Yeah, if
Speaker 3: you're top sixteen, top fifteen and all all around defense
Speaker 3: and you can be top five and takeaways, I'll tell
Speaker 3: you yeah, I'll take it because to know, seas points
Speaker 3: are a very valid point.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be growing pains.
Speaker 3: There's there's gonna be things that happen this year or
Speaker 3: you're like, what in the entire heck was he doing?
Speaker 3: Bro Like, you know, and it may cost you some games.
Speaker 3: You know, it may cost some games, but guess what,
Speaker 3: that's a part of growth. And when you hire somebody
Speaker 3: who's thirty four years old, who's gonna be who's around
Speaker 3: the age of some of the guys that you have
Speaker 3: on the roster, there's gonna be growing pains.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: He has to learn too, you know, there's some young
Speaker 3: bucks that are on the team. There's some young coaches
Speaker 3: that are now on a team. So he's gonna have
Speaker 3: to learn, and you're gonna have to have grace while
Speaker 3: he's learning. And that's a part of something that the
Speaker 3: ownership group understands.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: We understand the upside, the potential upside, but while there's
Speaker 3: great upside, there's gonna be some some speed bumps along
Speaker 3: the way.
Speaker 6: I feel like I love what Isaiah's saying here. Let's
Speaker 6: timper the expectations. We love to high. There's a huge
Speaker 6: question mark on what does his play calling look like.
Speaker 6: How quickly can he get past these growing pains, because
Speaker 6: there will be growing pains.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to.
Speaker 6: Give him a year one grace period in saying that
Speaker 6: if he can land at number fifteen, if the defense
Speaker 6: can come in ranked fifteenth overall, and the offense can
Speaker 6: take strides over what they were last year, because they
Speaker 6: were prolific last year, but they had pockets of times
Speaker 6: where they went cold. First it was first halfs of games,
Speaker 6: and then it was second halves of games, and a
Speaker 6: large part due to the defense, large part doe to
Speaker 6: the defense. But if Shoty can learn from his growing pains,
Speaker 6: because Shoty had growing pains as well last year, if
Speaker 6: the offense can become better, you give them a mid
Speaker 6: tier defense in twenty twenty six, you're in the playoffs
Speaker 6: and possibly at the divisional round, may be a conference
Speaker 6: I don't know. But what I'm saying is a fifteenth
Speaker 6: ranked defense I think is very possible. If they finished
Speaker 6: building the staff out the right way, and they attack
Speaker 6: free agency and the draft the right place way to
Speaker 6: give Christian Parker the support and the personnel.
Speaker 1: I'm all about the position coaches right now.
Speaker 7: And speaking of there are a lot of names floating around,
Speaker 7: a lot of interviews taking place, and they're trying to
Speaker 7: fill out that defensive staff. When we come back, we
Speaker 7: need to discuss those names.
Speaker 1: Give me those names.
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Speaker 6: But are you doing the stance with the leg though
Speaker 6: we can't see the leg is up on the Actually,
Speaker 6: I didn't want to show off everybody.
Speaker 7: So I wanted to ask you guys about the expectations
Speaker 7: on Christian Parker because I don't want to be another
Speaker 7: one of those podcasts that's like just hyping.
Speaker 1: Up part and then fifteenth fifteenth year one, I think that.
Speaker 7: Would be an acceptable upgrade, yes, from last year's defense
Speaker 7: of this year's defense. But then you did see after Anyways,
Speaker 7: I'm just saying, temper your expectations were we can be
Speaker 7: happy about the pick and also temper.
Speaker 1: Our expectations, so please understand that. Guys.
Speaker 7: The coaching staff, now, we had a few I'm angry
Speaker 7: departures from the coaching staff. Aaron Whitecott White, I'm angry
Speaker 7: being the main one. I'm angry Why Isaiah.
Speaker 1: I'm excited for him? Yeah, yeah, good for him. Great human,
Speaker 1: one of the Titans, great human being, great coach, great coach, motivator. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean we've seen what he did with the d line.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, man, like he's I just gathering
Speaker 1: all this side and I.
Speaker 3: Hate that they lost him. There's two listen, no disrespect
Speaker 3: to the rest of the coaches. Two coaches that I
Speaker 3: feel as if the Dallas Cowboys I don't want to
Speaker 3: say can't afford to lose or couldn't afford to lose, but.
Speaker 1: You'd hate to see you hate to see them lose them.
Speaker 1: Aaron White Cotton was one.
Speaker 3: Yes, the other one most likely will probably be saying
Speaker 3: bye to him too.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, Linda Wells. And there's a good possibility.
Speaker 7: There's a great because it's because it's a it's a promotion.
Speaker 3: It is a heck of a promotion, and it's just
Speaker 3: heck of a situation and it's a it makes and
Speaker 3: you got on black and yellow that this is mornings.
Speaker 3: There's no news. I don't know anything that y'all don't know,
Speaker 3: but I my spider senses are going on.
Speaker 1: It would be very And.
Speaker 7: How could you blame him if if that's what he
Speaker 7: decides to go.
Speaker 1: You can't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I listen, Cowboys Nation. I hope that you
Speaker 3: retain Linda Wells. I hope that he.
Speaker 1: Says, no, I'm staying here.
Speaker 3: But if you're Linda Wells and you have opportunity to
Speaker 3: go play for a coach that you played underneath, you
Speaker 3: have the opportunity to go play for another great organization,
Speaker 3: go coach for another great organization.
Speaker 1: You have a great tight.
Speaker 3: End room over there as well to work with, and
Speaker 3: you have office of coordinator position where you're one step
Speaker 3: closer to being a head coach. And you don't really
Speaker 3: have to be the office of coordinator. You just get
Speaker 3: the title and you get the like.
Speaker 7: And behind the head coach who was already long in
Speaker 7: the tooth may not be sticking around.
Speaker 1: It's a great lot I don't know. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to pump it up.
Speaker 3: Obviously, this is cowboys talking, but the reality is you're
Speaker 3: most likely going to say bide him as well. So too,
Speaker 3: one great coach is gone that everybody in that room loves. Obviously,
Speaker 3: he was up for defensive coordinator positions. He didn't get
Speaker 3: that for where he's going.
Speaker 7: He interviewed here for DC, Yes he did. We talked
Speaker 7: about that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so it's said about those departures.
Speaker 7: Of course, that that departure, but this guy isn't falling.
Speaker 7: Anytime a new defensive court or a new coordinator is
Speaker 7: hired anywhere in the league, the league turn turns over
Speaker 7: about thirty to fifty percent of their staff.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just happened. So I was hopeful.
Speaker 3: And again this is understanding what the ownership is in
Speaker 3: position to do. Yes, some times obviously we blocked right
Speaker 3: mister Jones and the Jones family.
Speaker 1: They made on Clayton Adams. Yeah, clay await, buddy, they
Speaker 1: tried to get Clayton Adams.
Speaker 7: No, I mean, to be fair, he probably was like,
Speaker 7: go ahead and blocked at them.
Speaker 3: But was I'm good on the only reason why they
Speaker 3: were able to block it is because it was an
Speaker 3: adjacent move. Yes, right, it was offensive coordinator to offensive coordinator, right,
Speaker 3: So that why is that's why they had the power
Speaker 3: to block it. They don't have the power to block
Speaker 3: Aaron Aaron Whitecotton, who was getting the d line position
Speaker 3: in Tennessee, but he's also getting the promotion to the
Speaker 3: to the rush run game coordinator, right, so he got
Speaker 3: a promotion entitle Linda Wells is the tight end coach
Speaker 3: for Dallas Cowboys. He's not going potentially going to go
Speaker 3: interview for a tight ends position coach in Pittsburgh. He's
Speaker 3: going to go interview for the offensive coordinator position under
Speaker 3: coach McCarthy, who he already coached under.
Speaker 7: So is it know anything about McCarthy hires his Buddyes,
Speaker 7: so is it an interview?
Speaker 3: So so anyway, so that's that's that.
Speaker 1: But about these new guys.
Speaker 7: About these new guys, Patrick, give us the rundown, please,
Speaker 7: all right?
Speaker 6: So I will say I'm waiting on confirmation for this.
Speaker 6: I know that there's some critible reports out there from
Speaker 6: some of our folks that are on the beat, like
Speaker 6: Todd Archier, for example, who spoke that the Cowboys are
Speaker 6: finalizing to deal with Arizona Cardinals cornerbacks coach Ryan Smith.
Speaker 1: I'm told it's in the works.
Speaker 6: Told it's not done quite yet, so put a pen
Speaker 6: in that waiting for that to become official or at
Speaker 6: least agreed to terms. So it's not been agreed to
Speaker 6: terms yet, but he is in the building, so that's
Speaker 6: a possible addition. Promising. I will say young. He's in
Speaker 6: his early forties, mid forties, so still on the new
Speaker 6: guard type space.
Speaker 1: Right, modern minds. Right, this is also a guy.
Speaker 6: Who you know in college he coached took Kalt Farley
Speaker 6: with a Virginia Tech so and then of course you
Speaker 6: know that when you're looking at the Cardinals defense, particularly
Speaker 6: their passing defense, they were the number one defense in
Speaker 6: the league as far as far as fewest passing touchdowns allowed.
Speaker 6: They only had ten last year. That was the lowest
Speaker 6: amount in the entire league. So if you combine him
Speaker 6: with Christian Parker's ability to develop defensive backs and cornerbacks,
Speaker 6: you might be cooking with some fish grease there.
Speaker 7: Alright, I'll right listen to a coach with a secondary
Speaker 7: background on cornerback coaches, but love that.
Speaker 6: Now, as far as some well going to the departures
Speaker 6: really quickly. Aaron Whitecott and we just talked about that.
Speaker 6: Assistant offensive line coach Ramon chen Young. He is reportedly
Speaker 6: headed to guess where the Pittsburgh Steelers to reunite, see
Speaker 6: where you're going with it, to reunite with Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 6: So Cowboys need to handle that on the offensive side
Speaker 6: of the ball and potentially Lounda Wells's vacancy if Lunda
Speaker 6: takes that job now as far as going back to
Speaker 6: defense pending, these are the guys who are being interviewed.
Speaker 6: Zach Or Raven's defensive coordinator. He was interviewed in the
Speaker 6: defensive coordinator process for the Cowboys. Seen in the building
Speaker 6: multiple multiple time, multiple times, multiple day with multiple days,
Speaker 6: not just multiple times, multiple damultiple days. He and his family,
Speaker 6: his significant other and their beautiful young child. They were
Speaker 6: in the building multiple days during the defensive coordinator search
Speaker 6: to the point where I figured that he was going to.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 6: As it turns out, there's some still love and mutual
Speaker 6: interest there because he's interviewing it for this is home, yeah,
Speaker 6: and it is that's this is a U and T guy,
Speaker 6: young family, right, young family, U and T guy Kyle
Speaker 6: is here, then I let him call call so zach.
Speaker 1: Orr, that's a new call for him, zach Orr.
Speaker 6: Of he's one that's interviewing again for a possible position
Speaker 6: coach role. Robert Livingston. Uh, this is real quick backpedal
Speaker 6: on zach Arr.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this would be a downgrade for him in title
Speaker 3: and we never know what the coaches make, so let's
Speaker 3: lay that out there. But I don't know what they
Speaker 3: would do back in wise contract.
Speaker 7: But there was a there was a tumultuous end to
Speaker 7: his uh in Baltimore.
Speaker 1: In Baltimore.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and at least if you go on Twitter, it's
Speaker 7: he's not a good pick because.
Speaker 1: Everyone thinks he sucks.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, uh, in terms of Twitter talk.
Speaker 7: But then again, this is a well respected coach in
Speaker 7: the NFL. That I mean, the Ravens are always expected
Speaker 7: to be top five defenses in the league. So I
Speaker 7: think you got to get this guy some grace and
Speaker 7: not thing went right for the Bultra.
Speaker 6: And not just that, but also the reality of it
Speaker 6: is we talk a lot about how sometimes a head
Speaker 6: coach is better served as a coordinator, right, not every
Speaker 6: coordinator needs to be a head coach.
Speaker 1: Well, not every position coach needs to be a coordinator.
Speaker 6: And then sometimes a coordinator might be in a situation
Speaker 6: that's non conducive for them, be it personnel or ownership
Speaker 6: or whatever, and then they kind of downgrade to a
Speaker 6: position coach and that's a better fit, and they rebuild
Speaker 6: themselves and they end up in a coordinator role in
Speaker 6: the next couple of years.
Speaker 3: And again I bring this up again. I don't know
Speaker 3: this man's family, but I do know that the baby
Speaker 3: was in a stroller, right.
Speaker 1: Young family. Maybe he doesn't want all the responsibilities of
Speaker 1: being a coordinator. It's a lot comes with it, a lot.
Speaker 7: More time just speculating, But yeah, I'm speculating.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at it. It was amazed both speculation. This
Speaker 1: is where fathers conversation time matters.
Speaker 6: So Robert Livingston going back to him really quickly the
Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball. This feels like the Connor
Speaker 6: Riley move right because Robert Livingston will be coming from
Speaker 6: Colorado as a defensive coordinator. The only difference is Livingston
Speaker 6: actually has a little bit of NFL experience before he
Speaker 6: went to Colorado. But the fact is if he comes
Speaker 6: on board, then Shotty and the Cowboys and Parker are
Speaker 6: pulling him from the collegiate ranks the position group. Good question,
Speaker 6: Good question. Same with Zach Orr TBD. I thought Zach
Speaker 6: Orr was for linebackers, That's what I heard.
Speaker 1: You might be right.
Speaker 6: I'll double check that because he's not the only one.
Speaker 6: Ronelle Williams, assistant linebackers coach for the Eagles. We talked
Speaker 6: about coaching Eagles defensive coaches. We got Christian Parker in
Speaker 6: the building, jokes on you. Well, apparently they're not done
Speaker 6: because Christian Parker reached back and said, hey, let's see
Speaker 6: if we can get Ronelle Williams, the Eagles assistant linebackers coach,
Speaker 6: in the building as well.
Speaker 1: So you hotline blank.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I say put a pin in because
Speaker 6: I heard the same thing you heard about or but
Speaker 6: I'm curious as to because I feel like if it's
Speaker 6: a lateral move, the Eagles are going to be pissed
Speaker 6: off enough to say, no, we couldn't block you on, Parker,
Speaker 6: We're not letting you take Ronelle Williams from assistant linebackers
Speaker 6: coach to assistant linebackers coach. There has to be a
Speaker 6: promotion there involved some yeah, and if he is coming
Speaker 6: in as linebackers coach, then I don't see that. I
Speaker 6: don't see Zach Or going from DC to assistant linebacker anything.
Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting to see how that works out.
Speaker 6: Marcus Dixon, Vikings defensive line coach. His contract ended at
Speaker 6: the start of this offseason. He was in the mix
Speaker 6: a little bit for defensive coordinators, still in the mix
Speaker 6: for defensive line coach, especially now that Aaron Whitecotton is
Speaker 6: out of the building. So recap Zach Or, Robert Livingston,
Speaker 6: Marcus Dixon run now Williams all being interviewed.
Speaker 1: For position coachingmate.
Speaker 6: Ryan Smith is, I'm told nearing a finalization of a
Speaker 6: contract to become the cowboys new cornerbacks coach under Christian Parker.
Speaker 6: So those are your updates. A lot of moving pieces,
Speaker 6: so just stay tuned as we get new information.
Speaker 1: And Marcus Dixon is a fast rising coach and he's
Speaker 1: team I was going to say, tell me what tell
Speaker 1: the people what you text me? Yeah, MD.
Speaker 3: Argus Dixon was my teammate here in Dallas. I believe
Speaker 3: it was like an eight. He was my teammate. Big
Speaker 3: fellow young you know young obviously same age as me,
Speaker 3: energetic and can really connect.
Speaker 1: He's a real one. He's he's one of those straight shooters.
Speaker 3: And when you have a coach that can, that's played it,
Speaker 3: and he had a solid career too. I think he
Speaker 3: played predit jets and moved around a little bit, but
Speaker 3: he played a position. He can connect. He can talk
Speaker 3: to these cats, he can meet them where the ad.
Speaker 3: He can talk to them in a way that older
Speaker 3: guys can't necessarily talk to him with, you know, at
Speaker 3: and be respected and received.
Speaker 7: So he's he's seems like a reoccurring theme with this
Speaker 7: coaching stuff.
Speaker 3: Listen, my last time see him, I saw him on
Speaker 3: the field when we're doing a pregame show against the Vikings,
Speaker 3: and he walked he was walking around the.
Speaker 1: Field and I was like, MD, He's like, man, what's up.
Speaker 1: It's just instant connection.
Speaker 3: Just it's always good to see old teammates doing well
Speaker 3: in terms of the coaching ranks. But I love hearing
Speaker 3: his name affiliated with the Cowboys again.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 4: Man.
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Speaker 7: Welcome back to Talking Cowboys Live roun the star Red godg.
Speaker 1: This I don't know, I don't know. Just have some energy.
Speaker 1: I'm here with it. We got some energy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're talking strategy changes. How does hiring Christian Parker
Speaker 7: change our draft strategy, our free agency strategy? Please tell
Speaker 7: me it gets even better from me here.
Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you one thing. One of those
Speaker 1: picks are going to be a defensive player. You think so,
Speaker 1: I can tell you that much.
Speaker 7: Steven Jones said that they're putting the board together just
Speaker 7: like they always are.
Speaker 1: Give me, both of them have a PASTAVI both full.
Speaker 1: I honestly, this is my honest thoughts. Please, that's all
Speaker 1: we asked for.
Speaker 3: I believe that mister Jones, Stephen Jones, that is, likes
Speaker 3: to keep things in his pocket.
Speaker 1: Doesn't like to spend it per se.
Speaker 3: If I had to guess, I think that you use
Speaker 3: your first draft pick, first round draft pick, and you
Speaker 3: trade away your second to acquire more picks, because I
Speaker 3: think they what you were just hearing what you what
Speaker 3: you what you were communicating to us? There no see
Speaker 3: in regards to Stephen Jones talking about using what we
Speaker 3: have and like you continue to hear the language right
Speaker 3: in terms of hey, like I don't want to spend It.
Speaker 1: Ain't all about we utilized what we already got in
Speaker 1: the crib? Is it ready to the refrigerator at home?
Speaker 1: We got food at the crib, you know McDonald's going
Speaker 1: out to eat, you know we have at home pie? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: don't start with the conversation.
Speaker 6: So I foresee them using the first draft pick on
Speaker 6: the defensive player to give Parker what he.
Speaker 1: Feels that he needs, because that's your new coach.
Speaker 3: And then I think that they or they grab something position,
Speaker 3: you know, a position of need, whatever is most evident
Speaker 3: at that time, and then they trade away that second
Speaker 3: first round pick to go acquire you know, a couple
Speaker 3: of thirds or fourth or whatever it might be.
Speaker 7: Do you think because of his background as a secondary coach,
Speaker 7: does that mean we attack secondary more No, more so
Speaker 7: than a pass rusher or so you finished?
Speaker 6: No, please let me finish. Yeah, No, I think you attack.
Speaker 6: And this is why it's great that you got two
Speaker 6: picks in the first round. I think you do attack,
Speaker 6: especially with Christian Parker. I think cornerback was on the table,
Speaker 6: not even I think cornerback was on the table for
Speaker 6: Christian Parker, now even more so with Christian Parker in
Speaker 6: the build. Yes, but the beauty of it is, because
Speaker 6: you have two first round picks, you get your pass
Speaker 6: rusher and you get your cornerback. Now that be as
Speaker 6: what Isaiah's saying, very well, it's very well that you know,
Speaker 6: possible that the Cowboys could use one of those picks
Speaker 6: moved back into the later in the first round, maybe
Speaker 6: into the second second, get some more picks because they
Speaker 6: don't have I mean, they're missing that pick in the
Speaker 6: second round anyway.
Speaker 1: So uh, and then handle it that way. But I
Speaker 1: do believe, as we have.
Speaker 6: This conversation, and we're having this conversation before free agency starts,
Speaker 6: keep that in mind.
Speaker 7: Yes, keep that in mind because there are a lot
Speaker 7: of players Christian Parker has coached other teams, including the Eagles,
Speaker 7: including the Broncos firing contracts coming up expiring.
Speaker 1: So that's why we can't say their name. We cannot
Speaker 1: say the names right now, there's one that's on that
Speaker 1: is coded hare. I'm sure there's there's how what how
Speaker 1: to blanket? All right? Yeah? Just chili? Somebody? Do you
Speaker 1: have to get on a boat later water? You know,
Speaker 1: I mean you need a blanket sometimes.
Speaker 6: Well, I know that one of the players that are
Speaker 6: coming free is I hear he's a dog.
Speaker 1: Dogs, So there's that.
Speaker 6: But I mean they have several guys that are going
Speaker 6: to be of note entering free agency. Can't say the
Speaker 6: names because they're still in the contract until the at
Speaker 6: least legal tampering starts UH in the first second week
Speaker 6: in March. But nonetheless, just like Christian Parker is reaching
Speaker 6: out to try to get Ronelle Williams in the building,
Speaker 6: I one hundred percent for see him reaching out to
Speaker 6: some of these formal current assumed to be former Eagles
Speaker 6: players on the defensive side of the ball, saying, hey,
Speaker 6: if you like what we did over there, try to
Speaker 6: come in doing it for.
Speaker 5: If you people dance, if you don't like your head
Speaker 5: coach dancing in the backgrounds fans in the tunnel, come
Speaker 5: to down.
Speaker 1: It's far less punch.
Speaker 6: Up if you catch that reference. Yeah, we're we're good.
Speaker 6: We're good, They're good. But no, seriously, I think so.
Speaker 6: I think I said hit the next on the head.
Speaker 6: As far as what could happen with the draft, I
Speaker 6: still want to see aggressiveness and free agency like we're
Speaker 6: talking about. Because if you're aggressive and free agency and
Speaker 6: you do it the right way defensively, because George Pickens
Speaker 6: is at the top of everybody's list in this room
Speaker 6: and in this building, but defensively you handle it the
Speaker 6: right way, then maybe you walk away with a very
Speaker 6: impactful edge rusher whilst retaining Deveon Clowney, which then allows
Speaker 6: you to continue to develop in you know, slowly unleashed
Speaker 6: as Roku get you a free agency linebacker who can
Speaker 6: impact the game along with Tomorvey on overshown and Mayrizleiafile. Okay, now,
Speaker 6: when you go into the draft, because I because I'm
Speaker 6: going to spend so much on pickings and I want
Speaker 6: another edge rusher and free agency, I want a linebacker
Speaker 6: and free agency, I'm not going to say, oh, well,
Speaker 6: also give me a high ticket cornerback because they're not
Speaker 6: going to do that. But what it does allow you
Speaker 6: to do is go into these first two round picks. First,
Speaker 6: these two first round picks. Sorry, and you say, I
Speaker 6: can attack. I can throw cornerback first pick, first picking
Speaker 6: my first round of the draft cornerback. And then when
Speaker 6: the second pick comes around, you say, okay, well we
Speaker 6: did get an impact edge rusher, so maybe now we
Speaker 6: can afford to move.
Speaker 1: Back a little bit and attack edge that way.
Speaker 7: So I think exactly that, like you're talking about trading
Speaker 7: that second first round pick to acquire more picks because
Speaker 7: you currently have no Day two picks at all. One
Speaker 7: of the things, at least in Fangio style systems, they
Speaker 7: value safeties that can play high and in the box,
Speaker 7: corners that don't panic with their eyes. Linebackers who can run,
Speaker 7: not just hit. You have linebackers who can run right now.
Speaker 7: I think that's right, athletic linebackers. I think the vision
Speaker 7: is there for him, and I think that's one of
Speaker 7: the things that sold them on Parker.
Speaker 1: But I think an.
Speaker 7: Emphasis on the secondary doesn't mean cornerbacks in the first round.
Speaker 7: I think that means multiple mid round cornerbacks, which is
Speaker 7: why you would maybe want to trade that for one
Speaker 7: of those first round picks. And again, virsual safeties in
Speaker 7: competition everywhere, if you look at the recent playoff defenses
Speaker 7: Ravens forty nine Ers Chiefs. They wrote tape between seven
Speaker 7: and nine defensive backs yearly. You have to have depth.
Speaker 7: It's not just your number one guys. You're talking about
Speaker 7: a team that got rid of Trayvon Dicks. They released
Speaker 7: him in just before the last game of the season.
Speaker 7: A guy that was, you know, a ballhawk in his
Speaker 7: in his time, but a guy that would give up
Speaker 7: the big play. I'm wondering now is the is the
Speaker 7: mentality changing on like are we over creating those splash plays.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying entirely, but are you more relying on
Speaker 7: players being right? You don't need players to be great,
Speaker 7: you need them to be right, cerebral players.
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see question, Josh. I'm curious to see
Speaker 3: how coach Parker impacts the draft in regards to do
Speaker 3: you feel as if you need star players or do
Speaker 3: you need consistent players across.
Speaker 1: The board the ladder? Please? You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: Like I'm being genuine because and I'm sitting here asking
Speaker 1: myself why not both? Well, sometimes you can't get both right.
Speaker 3: Sometime you got to go go get the guy because
Speaker 3: there's only a handful of guys, that's true, or you say,
Speaker 3: I gotta I have to be okay, letting that team
Speaker 3: have the guy, let me get the guy that's one
Speaker 3: or two guys behind him. That is gonna not gonna
Speaker 3: necessarily be that, But I know exactly what I'm getting out.
Speaker 1: Of disguises another exactly. You know.
Speaker 3: So sometimes you either have the one dog or you
Speaker 3: can have you can have three three cats.
Speaker 1: Second, that's gonna be there, tried and chew every week.
Speaker 1: You don't need Superman.
Speaker 7: You need guys that know what's about to happen, Guys
Speaker 7: that can recognize the play.
Speaker 6: Okay, so Devil's advocate, you need Sean Lee's out there.
Speaker 6: So so Devil's healthy. Sean Lee when healthy was a guy. Absolutely,
Speaker 6: So that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: You need mental Lee something you.
Speaker 6: Need mental Lee's. Isaiah is not wrong. It's just a
Speaker 6: matter of how how are you going to approach this?
Speaker 1: Right? You have to decide what your outfit is gonna
Speaker 1: look like.
Speaker 6: Because while Isaiah is absolutely correct and that they're only
Speaker 6: handful of God at each position in the league period, right,
Speaker 6: So then you.
Speaker 1: Are going you have a Pro Bowls under under roster, Right,
Speaker 1: now stop that.
Speaker 6: Now you're going to have to figure out if you're
Speaker 6: going to go and get that guy and then the
Speaker 6: depth chart around him are guys who are just simply
Speaker 6: consistent or are you going to elevate those guys a
Speaker 6: little bit by downgrading this? And now you have guys
Speaker 6: who are at you know.
Speaker 3: So one of the things about coach Parker that I
Speaker 3: read about I say, he loves get the competition now, right,
Speaker 3: he loves competition and that's we know that's one of the.
Speaker 1: Core value competition here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, coach Seta Huimer loves competition, right, we saw it,
Speaker 3: We saw it in training camp.
Speaker 1: This is another opportunity, there's another opportunity. Do you stay
Speaker 1: true to that? Not often? Do you stay true to that? Right?
Speaker 1: Do you do? You? This is what I say.
Speaker 3: I'm curious to see exactly how this draft goes down.
Speaker 3: Does Coach Parker stand up in the meeting room, in
Speaker 3: that room and that war room and say I need
Speaker 3: these guys and the Jones just say, well, we already
Speaker 3: have these guys that we're invested in.
Speaker 1: What's that conversation look like then?
Speaker 3: Right, if mister coach Parker says, hey, I need this guy,
Speaker 3: he's a competitor, he's a dollar. They say, well, we
Speaker 3: already have that position filled. What happens, That's what I'm
Speaker 3: curious to see. I can't wait to see the picks
Speaker 3: because that's going to give you a peek behind the
Speaker 3: veil in regards.
Speaker 7: To who's really running, who's not necessarily who's running the struggle?
Speaker 3: Right, But like, are they going to continue to listen
Speaker 3: or is that going to be a situation where there.
Speaker 1: Is resistance you?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, pushback, But they're like, I've
Speaker 3: given on a lot, now I'm not giving on this
Speaker 3: all right.
Speaker 6: So here's the thing though, the Cowboys over the past
Speaker 6: several seasons, and when I say over the past several
Speaker 6: I'm going let me reach back into the Jason Garrett
Speaker 6: era for a minutes. When you're looking back at the
Speaker 6: Jason Garrett era, a lot of the reasons the Cowboys
Speaker 6: were finishing eight and eight was because outside of having
Speaker 6: a guy, a dude, an animal here and there, here
Speaker 6: and there, you had positions that didn't have a guy
Speaker 6: or that dude. Now fast forward through Mike no through
Speaker 6: Dan Quinn, who had an excellent defense with the exception
Speaker 6: of it couldn't stop the run, and then Matt eber
Speaker 6: Flus and Mike Zimmer not so much. You're going into
Speaker 6: twenty twenty six. You look at this roster and look
Speaker 6: at who's going in the free agency from all the teams,
Speaker 6: including this one, and you say, okay.
Speaker 1: At defensive tackle, do I have a guy? Yes, you
Speaker 1: got at least two. You got two.
Speaker 6: You got at least two without resigning Jadeveon Clowney because
Speaker 6: that deal is not done. As we have this conversation.
Speaker 6: At defensive end, do you have a guy? No, because
Speaker 6: you don't know what Zrak is yet, so you don't.
Speaker 6: At linebacker, do you have a guy? No, guy, you
Speaker 6: have a guy with an asterisk.
Speaker 7: With an we'll see when it gets a full off season.
Speaker 6: Okay, so that's fair defensive, but right now I would
Speaker 6: say no defensive back.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind you need to be concerned about dron
Speaker 1: Bland's foot. So no. As safety, do you have a guy?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 1: You need to get guys. Yeah, That's where I'm at
Speaker 1: with it.
Speaker 3: No, you need and I don't disagree with you, but again,
Speaker 3: my thing is from the management standpoint, if you've invested
Speaker 3: in guys, right, For instance, take the cornerback position assigned
Speaker 3: Roan Blam to the extension. We just drafted Rebel, We
Speaker 3: just we drafted Carson a year before. Do you if
Speaker 3: he comes out and said I need to draft two corners,
Speaker 3: what is the response by the upper management and he
Speaker 3: comes out. If he comes out and says, hey, I
Speaker 3: need I need more linebackers. No, we just got we
Speaker 3: just got Leah Foul and we just got you know,
Speaker 3: over Shot.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I need this. Are they going to listen
Speaker 1: draft the safety?
Speaker 6: My answer would be yes. If Christian Parker comes to me,
Speaker 6: I think you go get him. And if Christian Parker
Speaker 6: comes to me and he says, to rebuild your defense
Speaker 6: and my vision and the way that you want it
Speaker 6: to be over the next two to five years of
Speaker 6: my contract, I need you to give me whatever I
Speaker 6: ask you to get. And here's why I think the
Speaker 6: Cowboys will be in on that, because pre dan Quinn
Speaker 6: personnel acquisition wise looked much different than when dan Quinn
Speaker 6: got in the building. The Cowboys didn't approach attack or
Speaker 6: bring in the defensive tackle position like they should have.
Speaker 6: But then here comes Aaron White cotting Oh, and all
Speaker 6: of a sudden not only do you trade Michael, which
Speaker 6: you may or may not have done anyway, but you
Speaker 6: trade them for Kenny Clark and then a few weeks
Speaker 6: later you go and get Quinn Williams.
Speaker 1: So use that to me. They're listening, Yeah, they're listening. Yeah.
Speaker 6: So if Christian Parker comes to me and I'm Jerry
Speaker 6: and Stephen Jones and he says I need him, him,
Speaker 6: him and him, I'm like, call him, call him, call him.
Speaker 1: Whatever you need, Christian, Yeah, whatever you.
Speaker 7: Need, all right, fellas, that will do it the fucking Cowboys.
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