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Speaker 5: We won World War Two with seven four star generals.

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Speaker 1: Ladies, Jill, welcome forward today's edition of Human Events Daily

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Speaker 1: here live in Washington, DC. Today is January fifteen, twenty

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Speaker 1: You get your job done. President Trump has done his job.

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Speaker 1: Five days time President Trump will be the forty seventh

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Speaker 9: Today. You know that you talk about influencers.

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Speaker 8: These are influencers and they're friends and mine.

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Speaker 9: Jack, Jack, break down.

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Speaker 4: So we're all with Darren Bedie and we're talking about this. Darren.

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Speaker 6: reason whatsoever other than to score political points. So I

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Speaker 6: think that's also very telling as to positive direction and

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Speaker 6: really positive outlook that Hexeth has is that he would

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Speaker 6: understand why that problem needs to be corrected and the

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Speaker 6: bases will need to be renamed to their proper and

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Speaker 6: original names.

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Speaker 4: Right now.

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Speaker 1: We remember on New Year's Day we had that sort

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Speaker 1: of these dual terror attacks or strange incidents that involved

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Speaker 1: soldiers who both served on Fort Bragg, and everybody referred

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Speaker 1: to it in every single outlet and every single tweet

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Speaker 1: and every single utterance, they kept saying Fort Bragg, even

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Speaker 1: though of course you know, we're not supposed to call

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Speaker 1: it Fort.

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Speaker 4: Bragg or no, it is Fort Brad.

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Speaker 1: President Trump has said this as well as including by

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Speaker 1: the way, Mount McKinley and Barrow, Alaska, and all of

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Speaker 1: these other different name changes that have gone on, and

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Speaker 1: we all know that it was done. Yeah it's and

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Speaker 1: we realized that this was done from a position of

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Speaker 1: a revolutionary regime to push out the history.

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Speaker 4: By the way, and I.

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Speaker 1: Say this as a guy who's from Pennsylvania, but one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons. I didn't even know this, but one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons that a lot of those bases got

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Speaker 1: their names a lot of one of the reasons that

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Speaker 1: you have the Confederate section at Arlington National Cemetery, which

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Speaker 1: I'm not even currently sure what the status is. There

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Speaker 1: was a Supreme Court case on it that the idea was,

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Speaker 1: as a country, we have to come back together again.

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Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's interesting we were talking about,

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Speaker 1: you know, Panama and the the the Guantanamo Bay and

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Speaker 1: some of these other things that went on in terms

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Speaker 1: of the Teddy with where Teddy Rooseveolt came up, and

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Speaker 1: it was in fact, the sash American War was held

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Speaker 1: only about thirty years after the Civil War, and so

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Speaker 1: you had, as you say, these Southern soldiers that were

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Speaker 1: participating in the same units or possibly the same campaigns

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Speaker 1: as Northern soldiers. And so the idea was that we

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Speaker 1: are going to come back together again as a country,

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Speaker 1: rather than demonize either side for all of the various

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Speaker 1: issues that they went to the war, but instead understand

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Speaker 1: that we all want to live in the same country again,

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Speaker 1: and so we are going to.

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Speaker 4: Respect the history, the warrior spirit. We're going to respect

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Speaker 4: the fact of the soldiers who fought.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, obviously we can disagree with the reasons and the

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Speaker 1: politics of the situation. Fine, but the point was is

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Speaker 1: that you would show respect to the generals like ap Hill,

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Speaker 1: General Bragg, General Hood, and all the various others through

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Speaker 1: the names of these bases, and that's something to allow

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Speaker 1: them to have that respect and to understand by the

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Speaker 1: way that yours is a place in America. Darren Beti

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Speaker 1: last minute to you.

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Speaker 6: I totally agree and again very encouraging. There's a lot

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Speaker 6: of things to correct, not only in the Department of Defense,

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Speaker 6: but in the FBI. I mentioned last time we talked

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Speaker 6: that we'd have a major piece on that Loudermilk pipe

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Speaker 6: bomb report that is fresh off the press, just published

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Speaker 6: it an hour ago, So people should go to Revolver

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Speaker 6: dot news and read that and read what future FBI

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Speaker 6: Director Cash Betel has on a silver platter in order

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Speaker 6: to finally expose this pipe bomb January sixth scandal.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of work to be done all around.

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Speaker 6: Biden screwed things up immeasurably, as did a lot of

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Speaker 6: his compatriots, and so there's a lot to be done.

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Speaker 6: But Trump is doing a great job so far and

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Speaker 6: he hasn't even been inaugurated, So I am very optimistic

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Speaker 1: We're very honored here on the program for Human Events

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Speaker 1: Daily to now welcome on Attorney General Ken Paxton of

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Speaker 1: the Great State of Texas.

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Speaker 4: General Paxson, how are you.

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Speaker 9: I'm doing well. Thanks for having me on, Jack.

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Speaker 4: Oh, It's an absolute honor. So walk us through.

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Speaker 1: You've had a huge day today over at the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: this hearing and this case regarding the age verification law

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Speaker 1: that Texas has put up regarding pornographic sites. This is

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Speaker 1: one of the first times that it's going up to

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. The hearing was held today. Walk us

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Speaker 1: through your side of it. Yeah, so let me give

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Speaker 1: you the background.

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Speaker 2: So this law was passed in the last legislative session

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Speaker 2: which ended May approximately year and what seven eight months.

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Speaker 9: Ago it went into effect.

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Speaker 2: It was we only supported by Republicans and Democrats, and

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Speaker 2: then we started enforcing the law.

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Speaker 9: That was my job to enforce the law.

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Speaker 2: And the law was pretty simple, as these porn sites

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Speaker 2: to do age verification to make sure that the people

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Speaker 2: that were looking at these sites were at least eighteen.

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Speaker 2: They were eighteen, then there's no problem. If they were

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Speaker 2: under eighteen, then they were to exclude them. It was

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Speaker 2: simply designed to protect children. And most people I think

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Speaker 2: would agree, at least in Texas, and I would go,

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Speaker 2: I guess most of the country that that's something that

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Speaker 2: you would want your government to do, is to protect

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Speaker 2: children from viewing obscene material or other material that might be.

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Speaker 9: Objectionable to their parents.

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Speaker 2: And so that's what happened, and we started enforcing this

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Speaker 2: because many of these sites were not doing the age

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Speaker 2: verification they suit us. We actually lost in district course.

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Speaker 2: They chose the court and we lost, and we got

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Speaker 2: an injunction put on us which stopped us from enforcing

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Speaker 2: the law. We appealed it to the Fifth Circuit and

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Speaker 2: we got the injunction stayed so that we could start

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Speaker 2: enforcing the law.

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Speaker 9: And then the these porn sites that I.

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Speaker 2: Have a little free speech they called some free speech

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Speaker 2: group sued.

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Speaker 9: I took it to the US Supreme Court, and that

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Speaker 9: was what we were doing today, was.

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Speaker 2: Defending our law, hoping to keep that stay in place

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Speaker 2: while the litigation goes on, and continue to protect children

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Speaker 2: under texts law.

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Speaker 1: And so one of the interesting pieces of the case

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Speaker 1: that I saw, I was able to watch some I.

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Speaker 4: Was jumping between different hearings today.

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Speaker 1: We had the Senate hearings with the nominees and the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court here it's all going on at the same time.

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Speaker 1: So really things are picking up so much in DC.

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Speaker 1: But one of the interesting pieces that I saw regarding

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Speaker 1: this was the Texas side was arguing, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's a very strong argument that there are lots of

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Speaker 1: things that are regulated for age verification when you would

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Speaker 1: go and purchase them at a store, for example, under

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Speaker 1: eighteen for tobacco, under twenty one for alcohol over various firearms.

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Speaker 1: Restrictions based on age of these things exist, and everyone

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Speaker 1: is quite familiar with them or R rated movies, quite

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Speaker 1: familiar with them when you're doing so in person. And

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Speaker 1: basically what the attorney was arguing was that it's the

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Speaker 1: exact same concept, just applying that in the digital space.

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Speaker 2: Now, that's exactly right. I think it's been. It's our history.

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Speaker 2: I mean, as long as we've been a country, we

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Speaker 2: protect children from certain things. And as you mentioned, tobacco

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Speaker 2: and firearms and certain movies and now you know poorn websites,

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Speaker 2: and so I think most Americans would agree, certainly. I

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Speaker 2: know that this was overwhelming the past.

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Speaker 9: By the red legislation.

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Speaker 2: It was not controversial at all, and I don't think

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Speaker 2: it's controversial in America that we are going to protect children.

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Speaker 2: So that's all we're trying to do here. We're not

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Speaker 2: trying to shut these sites down.

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Speaker 9: We realize there is a.

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Speaker 2: First Amendment right for adults to view whatever they want,

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Speaker 2: and that's certainly up to them, but with kids, we

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Speaker 2: treat them as a separate category. We've done it in

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Speaker 2: different areas of the law, and we do it in

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Speaker 2: the areas that you've just talked about.

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Speaker 4: That's all this is.

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Speaker 9: It's very simple argument.

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Speaker 2: And even the other side that the free speech side,

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Speaker 2: came in and admitted that the state does have a.

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Speaker 9: Compelling interest in protecting children.

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Speaker 2: They just don't like how we're doing it, and they

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Speaker 2: have other, I guess what they would call less intrusive

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Speaker 2: ways of doing that. However, the ways that they're suggesting

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Speaker 2: have not been effective in preventing minors from viewing these materials.

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Speaker 1: So what are some of these what are some of

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Speaker 1: these debates than the counter arguments that they're talking about

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Speaker 1: these less intrusive measures.

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Speaker 2: Oh so they want some type of content moderation standards.

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Speaker 2: They never hasn't really stopped kids from viewing it doesn't

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Speaker 2: it's not effective. The only way to make this effective

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Speaker 2: that we've seen, and that's what the legisltures did.

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Speaker 9: There's a lot of study done this, this.

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Speaker 2: Has occurred over many years, but they didn't really specify

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Speaker 2: much as to solutions. They just said they needed less intrusive,

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Speaker 2: more thoughtful ways of doing this, But they didn't really

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Speaker 2: offer up solutions to this problem that actually work that

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Speaker 2: we know, and they offered nothing up, just that we

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Speaker 2: needed to do something different, which in my mind is

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Speaker 2: just stalling and trying to push this off for another day.

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Speaker 2: But the reality is this is a very sensible, common

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Speaker 2: sense way of dealing with the problem. Just make sure

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Speaker 2: that these people that are viewing it are eighteen year older.

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Speaker 1: Well then, I actually remember I'm going through some of

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Speaker 1: the minute here of the case where even Supreme Court

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Speaker 1: Justice Clarence Thomas pointed out that in fact, going on

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Speaker 1: the internet and accessing something is fundamentally different than walking

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Speaker 1: into a store, because it's easier, it's more pervasive, it

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Speaker 1: can be done anywhere. Teenagers, these have cell phones all

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Speaker 1: over the place.

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Speaker 4: There's no block on this whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: So rather than having to go into the store and

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Speaker 1: at least pass through this, you know, that basic check

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Speaker 1: of a of a cashier or the clerk who's waiting there,

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Speaker 1: this is actually delivered straight into your own home, right

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Speaker 1: under the nose of parents.

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Speaker 4: Who you know.

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Speaker 1: It's not the uh, you know, the old magazines under

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Speaker 1: the mattress anymore.

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Speaker 4: This is this just right there already.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you make a very good point.

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Speaker 2: He made a very good point, which is it's it's

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Speaker 2: you know, push up a button and you're on these

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Speaker 2: websites and and access to you know, all kinds of

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Speaker 2: stuff and large volumes of it. And if you think

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Speaker 2: about it, I mean, we've it's not been controversial that

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Speaker 2: you have to you have to show a photo ID

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Speaker 2: if you go into you know, adult stores or strip

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Speaker 2: clubs or whatever.

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Speaker 9: That's not controversial. Why why is that not a problem?

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Speaker 2: And somehow because it's online and easier to get to

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Speaker 2: somehow this is a violation of free speech rights. Like

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Speaker 2: I'm a I would broadly interpret the First Amendment and say,

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Speaker 2: you know, protections for adults are extremely broad, and the

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Speaker 2: state does have to show a compelling interest and it

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Speaker 2: should be strictly interpreted. When you're dealing with children with

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Speaker 2: materials that could be harmful to their mental health, potentially

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Speaker 2: their physical health, we have an obligation as a as

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Speaker 2: a as a country, and as a state of Texas

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Speaker 2: to protect those children because they're not going to be

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Speaker 2: able to make the right decisions at the ages that

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Speaker 2: we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly right, and we're seeing this more and

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Speaker 1: more and you know, I've got you know, I've got

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Speaker 1: two little boys age four and six, and and they're

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Speaker 1: already you know, asking us, Mommy and Daddy, can we

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Speaker 1: use the tablets? You know, we want to play this game.

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Speaker 1: They already know, you know, how to bypass there. And

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Speaker 1: my my six year old, is figuring out my passwords

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Speaker 1: pretty much on a weekly basis now, so I have

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Speaker 1: to keep jumping past him and I'll pop up and he's.

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Speaker 4: He's on YouTube now.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately, at this point, when I catch him on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: he's usually just watching lego videos and trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to, you know, how to build the next

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Speaker 1: the next project. So not not too upset about that.

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Speaker 1: But of course, you know, I understand that as soon

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Speaker 1: as he gets older, he is going to want to

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Speaker 1: start branching out into that wider Internet. He's going to

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Speaker 1: be looking at more things, He's going to be fed

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Speaker 1: references to things, and certainly, I mean, YouTube is another conversation,

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Speaker 1: you know, we could have about the stuff that gets

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Speaker 1: forwarded to children on that thing that is not vetted

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Speaker 1: in any way. And unfortunately, then when they click the links,

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Speaker 1: they jump away from YouTube. They think they're looking at

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Speaker 1: something that's just legos, and they bounce around to another one.

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Speaker 1: By the way, folks want to be clear about something

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Speaker 1: before the break, we do not allow them unsupervised YouTube access.

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Speaker 1: We'll be right back with Attorney General Ken pax and

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Speaker 1: we're talking about how should pornography sites face any state

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Speaker 1: regulation regarding a garification states in the right pack.

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Speaker 4: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's written at fantastic book.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 5: Go get it. Hetty's been my friend life from the

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Speaker 5: beginning of.

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Speaker 2: This whole uniful event.

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Speaker 5: And we're going to turn around and make your.

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Speaker 1: Country way to get a new.

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Speaker 4: All right, Jackzewick back Live.

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily were on with Attorney General Ken Paxson

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Speaker 1: of the Great State of Texas, where he was at

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Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court defending the Texas new law regarding

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Speaker 1: age verification for pornographic sites. By the way, I know

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Speaker 1: this is an issue that really gets a lot of

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Speaker 1: people going because on the you know, more of the

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Speaker 1: conservative side, people will say yes.

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Speaker 4: You know, we want to protect the kids.

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Speaker 1: But then you'll get your libertarian types who say no, no,

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Speaker 1: it should all be free. You can't put those restrictions

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Speaker 1: on the on companies like that.

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Speaker 4: So if you have a take on this.

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Speaker 1: If you have an opinion send us your email seventeen

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Speaker 1: seventy six at Humanevents dot com. So, Ag Paxton, let

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Speaker 1: me actually bring that up then. So regarding the First

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Speaker 1: Amendment question, this has been obviously the crux, I would say,

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Speaker 1: of porn Hub's argument and the Free Speech Coalition as

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Speaker 1: they're calling themselves, not just porn Hub, there's other sites

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Speaker 1: out there. But they say that they have First Amendment

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Speaker 1: protections and that this law would restrict the First Amendment.

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Speaker 4: What is your response to that?

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Speaker 2: Look, I agree with their First Amendment is broad. It

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Speaker 2: covers almost anything you can say. But you know you

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Speaker 2: can't yell fire in a movie house, even if you're

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Speaker 2: an adult.

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Speaker 9: So we have.

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Speaker 2: Recognized throughout our history some limitations that override free speech,

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Speaker 2: and they're very few, but this is one of them.

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Speaker 2: And it's protecting our kids because they don't have the

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Speaker 2: mental capacity at young ages to make the.

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Speaker 9: Right kind of decisions.

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Speaker 2: And so you know, we don't let miners enter into contracts.

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Speaker 2: Is that discriminating against miners or is it protecting owners?

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Speaker 2: We have long protected miners in all kinds of different situations,

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned some of them earlier about tobacco and vaping.

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Speaker 2: You can't get, you can't you can't get you can't

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Speaker 2: vape unless you're eighteen years space. So these kind of

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Speaker 2: significant decisions. You know, we just don't let miners make

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Speaker 2: them because we know that their brain is not fully developed,

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Speaker 2: and we try to protect them from from things like

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Speaker 2: obscene materials and from making contracts that would tie them

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Speaker 2: up in a bad situation.

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Speaker 1: And that's really what it comes down to is. You know,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like you're trying to shut down these companies.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't seem like Texas is attempting to say that

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Speaker 1: they can't operate. But what it is, it's the flip

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Speaker 1: side of that. It's a basic protection for the rights

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Speaker 1: of parents, for the rights of children. And again it

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Speaker 1: goes well, it goes in the line of the well

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Speaker 1: established protections and powers given to the states to be

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Speaker 1: able to regulate these things, whether it's a gambling or which,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is another huge issue coming in with

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Speaker 1: kids under eighteen.

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Speaker 4: You know, I don't think that.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting, by the way, because you usually do

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Speaker 1: hear this when it comes to the gambling sites. They

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Speaker 1: usually say right up front they're totally fine with age verification.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's interesting me. I obviously affects their bottom line.

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Speaker 2: They must, because you would think that they would expect

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Speaker 2: that we're going to regulate anything that has to do

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Speaker 2: with children. And they know the research and they know

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Speaker 2: that they're damaging effects to what's going on here and

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Speaker 2: very young people looking at these websites, and they know

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Speaker 2: all of that, and yet here they are in court

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Speaker 2: arguing against what I would consider the most basic, most

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Speaker 2: reasonable law that we pass, which is children, protect children first,

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Speaker 2: and let adults you choose as they please.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and for a lot of that too. For

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Speaker 1: many of these sites, it comes down to right. When

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Speaker 1: you're purchasing something. Regarding gambling sites, it's baked in because

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Speaker 1: you're going to need a credit card to pay, so

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Speaker 1: you would already have to verify for getting your credit

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Speaker 1: card in the first place. Now you know our kid's

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Speaker 1: going to steal mom and dad's credit card and put

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Speaker 1: that in Sure, maybe, but eventually that will be caught.

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Speaker 1: The issue, of course, with the pornographic sites is it's free.

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Speaker 4: By and large.

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Speaker 1: They can go to the site, they can watch whatever

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Speaker 1: they want. There's no verification. They can get right in there,

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Speaker 1: and we've seen already and this, by the way, was

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Speaker 1: a huge part of the briefing today regarding the mental

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Speaker 1: and psychological damage that is done to kids when they

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Speaker 1: start accessing this type of content at a young age.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, I mean you saw some of the

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Speaker 2: arguments that none of these justices appeared to even come

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Speaker 2: close to arguing that the state doesn't have a compelling

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Speaker 2: interest in protecting children. I actually, I don't know many

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Speaker 2: people that would argue different. Even the coalition, the Free

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Speaker 2: Speech Coalition, argued that it admitted that we had a

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Speaker 2: right to we had a compelling interest in regulating this

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Speaker 2: type of activity. They're just trying to make it ineffective.

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Speaker 9: That's all it is.

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Speaker 2: And I understand they have a profit motive, but the

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Speaker 2: reality is they also know that what they're what they're

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Speaker 2: arguing will not work for us, that we will not

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Speaker 2: be able to protect children, and.

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Speaker 9: So they're willing to trade that off for profit. That's

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Speaker 9: that's what it looks like to me.

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Speaker 2: And I think one of the justices actually claims Thomas

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Speaker 2: or one of the other justices clearly said that in

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Speaker 2: the arguments. Oh, that was Alito that said it's just

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Speaker 2: about profit. That's what this is and that's I think.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and that's absolutely right, and that that gets

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Speaker 1: into some of the deeper issues that I think are

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Speaker 1: going on in our country right now when we look

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Speaker 1: at these types of things and we ask ourselves, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was I always used it's a wonderful life, and the

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Speaker 1: contrast between Bedford Falls and Pottersville, right when he goes to.

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Speaker 2: By the Way, my favorite Christmas life, my favorite Christmas

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Speaker 2: music movie. So I like that, that's the.

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Speaker 4: Best, It's the absolute best.

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Speaker 1: And what do you and what do you see in

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Speaker 1: the you know, sort of the nightmare version. You know

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Speaker 1: that it's it's it's it's gambling, it's alcohol everywhere, it's girls, girls,

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Speaker 1: girls everywhere.

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Speaker 4: It's it's all of this vice.

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Speaker 1: So the idea is, and of course mister Potter loves

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Speaker 1: it because he makes lots of money and when everybody

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Speaker 1: spends all their money at his establishments, well he's got

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Speaker 1: his little uh got a shanty town at the edge

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Speaker 1: of you know, at the edge of the edge of

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Speaker 1: the city.

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Speaker 4: There and they can go live in a shanty town.

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Speaker 1: And so it's it's representing two different visions I think

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Speaker 1: of what a town could be and what America could be.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I think a lot of people draw

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Speaker 1: the line. It's about having a place that's actually healthy

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Speaker 1: for families and healthy for children, rather than just putting

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Speaker 1: profit motive over everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I'm not I'm not against companies making profits.

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Speaker 2: What I'm against his companies making profits. That's the experience

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Speaker 2: of children's lives. And you know, I think the argument

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Speaker 2: is that the Free Speech Coalition made about you know,

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Speaker 2: the sure, yes, the state is a compelling interest. I

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Speaker 2: think they knew that they could not go in and argue,

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Speaker 2: you know, the state has no interest in protecting Shoulder.

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Speaker 2: That just sounds like a horrible message, right, a loser message.

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Speaker 9: So they kind of argue out of both sides of

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Speaker 9: their mouth. They make the argument that.

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Speaker 2: The state can do it, but oh oh, you can't

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Speaker 2: do anything that actually works.

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Speaker 9: You can't do age.

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Speaker 2: I mean, how controversial should age verification should be? It

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Speaker 2: to me, it should be non controversial. And yet they're

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Speaker 2: fighting one of the simplest ways for us to protect

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Speaker 2: Shoulder because in reality, while they say that we have

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Speaker 2: an interest, they do not actually believe it.

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Speaker 4: Heymen, A G.

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Speaker 1: Paxton, thank you so much for joining us. Here congratulations

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Speaker 1: on a great hearing up at the Supreme Court. Make

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Speaker 1: sure you're following him, because I expect big things to

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Speaker 1: come out of that AG's office this year down in Texas,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, has always you have my permission to

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Speaker 1: lay shortness. M.