1 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the 2 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Katty Armstrong 3 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: and Jettie and. 4 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 2: Arms from studio ce Ce Signor, a dimly lit room 5 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 2: deeper than the bowels. 6 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:46,279 Speaker 1: Of the Armstrong in Getty Communications Compound. And hey y'all, midweek, 7 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: we're under the two ledge of our general manager Shared values, 8 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: as in, do we have any anymore? You've gone on 9 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: OPRAH with the general managers? Yeah, you know, I have guilty. 10 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 1: I said, nothing just jumped out, especially today Today's Shared Value, 11 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: so which is very nice. It's a nice it's a 12 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: nice impulse, charitable of you to say thank you. Yes, Yeah, 13 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: I just nothing. Nothing leapt out. 14 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: In particular, I could have gone with Daniel Penny, who 15 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: did an interview with Judge Janine of all people, but 16 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: it was actually quite good and compelling, and we'll have 17 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 3: some clips. 18 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: For you a little bit later on. Yeah, I gotta 19 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: tell you I've been having I having trouble with this 20 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: the last twenty four hours from the experience I had 21 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: with a person very very much like the guy Penny 22 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: ended up choking to death, coming on to my kids 23 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: and me and my family one night, and maybe I'll 24 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: retell that story later, just because it was so similar, 25 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 1: and I mean, it was just this close, and I 26 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: think about it way too often. I don't think about 27 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: it every day, but I think about it a lot. 28 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: In the last week or so, I've been thinking about 29 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: it every day. And so I heard the Daniel Penny 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: interview and he has talking about how he would have 31 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: been able to live with himself if if the guy 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: had hurt somebody and he hadn't done anything about it. 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 1: And so I've gone back and forth over the last 34 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: however many years, it's been of you know, did I overreact, 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: did I underreact? All that sort of stuff. And I'm 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: thinking I probably should have put my hands on the 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 1: guy and not just hoped that he didn't do anything. 38 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: I was between him and my kids. But if he 39 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: had moved fast, how would I been able to stop him? 40 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,519 Speaker 1: I don't know, right, And God dang it, I hope 41 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: you never end up in that situation. One of the 42 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: reasons that so many of us end up in those 43 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: situations is we have so many dangerous, freaking people on 44 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the streets of our cities, correct and so you end 45 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: up in a situation where you have to make a 46 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: judgmentcall of do I instigate this and suffer whatever consequences 47 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: might occur in a blue state or blue city because 48 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: I'm afraid right now for me or my kids, Or 49 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: do I wait until they stab, shoot, punch a woman, 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: a kid or whatever and then try to subdue them. 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: Horrible situation to be in, but it's much more likely 52 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: when you got thousands upon thousands of these people walk 53 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: in the streets. The guy that I was involved with 54 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: ended up. He had. 55 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: Smashed a woman's face in a drive through in a McDonald's, 56 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 3: then beating up paramedics, and he'd done this in different states, 57 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: and bet let go in blue states and travel around 58 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 3: the country. 59 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: He was exactly the same sort of guy as this. Yeah, 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: and you know, God to help you again that you're 61 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: never in that situation because you got to figure out 62 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: what do I do here? Do I actually fight this 63 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: person and then good? 64 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: Then good luck, especially as a public figure like me, 65 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: So I'm fighting a homeless person, he gets hurt. Imagine 66 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 3: how that could be portrayed in the news, right, especially 67 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 3: if he was physically smaller than you or something like that, 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 3: or he was a noted, you know, Michael Jackson in 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 3: or something right, right, they produced one picture of them 70 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 3: looking gentle and innocent, and it could be a nightmare. 71 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I'm gonna read some of the stuff that 72 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: was put out yesterday about this guy that Pennin choked 73 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: out and his background and some of the things people 74 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: are saying about him now. And the fund that is 75 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: being a gather to go fund me to raise money 76 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: for some sort of statue or fund or scholarship or 77 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: whatever for this guy who lived a life of scumbaggery right, 78 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: reminds me of George Floyd exactly. 79 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 3: He didn't deserve to die, but the idea that it 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: was some sort of hero is just ridiculous. It's astounding. 81 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. But we allow these to thing, we 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: allow these people to be on the streets. There's gonna 83 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna happen more, not less. Oh yeah, absolutely, Yeah. 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 3: What really really galls me is the inability or unwillingness 85 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: to tell the truth about this so called homeless situation. 86 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 3: Elon Musk Ashley if all people just had an excellent 87 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 3: tweet about it to describing it, and we'll get to 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 3: that in a little bit. But the I've got to 89 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: believe either it's that ideology is so clouded the minds 90 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 3: of people on the left, or there's so much damn 91 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 3: money being made you cannot get them to say out 92 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: loud it's primarily a drug addiction problem. The so called 93 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: homeless problem is in vast measure a drug problem. We're 94 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 3: not people who were working hard and paying the rent 95 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: and then they had one medical pill and then they're 96 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 3: out and they can't afford housing. I mean, there are 97 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: people like that, and I'm more than happy to help them, 98 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 3: but the vast majority. 99 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: Are a drug addict. The percentages are high enough of 100 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: it being a drug problem that it did to be 101 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: perfectly okay to only refer to it as a drug 102 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: problem and not refer to it as an almost problem at all. Exactly. Yeah, 103 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: why are we doing the inverse of the truth. 104 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: It's like, you know, I'm always railing about letting the 105 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: left define the language that you use. We ought to 106 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 3: be calling them drug addicts, and if ten to fifteen 107 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 3: percent are not, then you throw the caveat in. 108 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: We really should come up with a a societal decision 109 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: on this. Mentally ill, okay, if you if you're mentally 110 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: ill because you use so many drugs, or you use 111 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: so many drugs your brain no longer works. What is that? 112 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 3: What are we gonna call that? What are we gonna 113 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,479 Speaker 3: do with those people? So I heard you'll not let 114 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 3: them run around on the streets hurting people for for 115 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 3: certain I heard, uh, one of the best analogies I've 116 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 3: ever heard on this. Yesterday I was listening to the 117 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 3: National Review podcast. Rich Lowry said, can you imagine if 118 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 3: we let people with Alzheimer's just walk wander the streets? 119 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: Oh? Great point, and said, well, you know they have Alzheimer's. 120 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: It's not our job, to our business to put them 121 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: in a home. What are we gonna against the is 122 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 1: what is what is the literal difference between somebody with 123 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: Alzheimer's or a different kind of mental illness caused by 124 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: doing too much meth where they can't take care of themselves. 125 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: Tell me what the difference is. But there's no way 126 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 1: you'd let somebody with Alzheimer's just wander the streets. Yeah, 127 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: it's a shame. 128 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 3: It's it's troubling because there's no constituency, there's no lobbyist 129 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 3: for the mentally ill. They can't bribe any Congress people 130 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 3: to find a way to thread the needle. And it's 131 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: a difficult needle. Of the asylums of the past, with 132 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 3: their excesses and their abuses, nobody disagrees that they had problems. 133 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: But then this progressive view that took hold in the 134 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: sixties that we don't need those anymore because the drugs 135 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 3: are miraculous, the mental illness drugs, And so I'll give 136 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 3: them lithium. 137 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: They'll be great. We're gonna close all the mental hospitals. 138 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 3: We'll just open a center on this corner, in this 139 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: street corner, and people go. It failed miserably, completely miserably. 140 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 3: But and this may ring a bell. Having instituted a 141 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 3: government program that failed miserably, it remains in effect. 142 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, anyway, we've got a lot from that Daniel Penny interview, 143 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: which is pretty darned interesting. So join me. 144 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 3: Please, no more use in the term homeless bums and junkies. 145 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: DJs, if you will. So we got a lot more 146 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: on that later. What is the other big story that 147 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to mention? Oh, how about how about Israel? 148 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: So Syria used to have a military, Like four days ago, 149 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: Syria had a navy, an army, and an air force. 150 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: Today they got none of those. They got no air bases, 151 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: they got no ships. They're all at the bottom of 152 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: some body of water over there. I don't know my geography. 153 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: Army disappeared and all the stuff that the army had 154 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: has all been blown up. Five hundred air strikes from 155 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: Israel since Sunday has completely destroyed the Syrian military. Isn't 156 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: that something? 157 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 3: It is amazing Israel calculating that, Hey, if the lunatics 158 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: take charge, we don't want them to have access to 159 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: these weapons, So goodbye weapons. 160 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I wonder if we're in favor of that 161 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: or helping them out on that. We might be wrong. 162 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 1: We might be giving them all the coordinates for all 163 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: I know. 164 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 3: Oh probably yeah, yeah, Although with Biden you never or no, 165 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 3: and this will be my final thought. Then we probably 166 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 3: ought to start the show officially because Biden's FCC is 167 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: still in charge and they are draconian. Uh Iran, who 168 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 3: unleashed Hamas on October seventh, may have absolutely sowed the 169 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 3: seeds of their own undoing Amalas. 170 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: And soon maybe could be more on that later. So 171 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: let's start the show officially. As Joe said, I'm Jack Armstrong. 172 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: He's Joe Getty on this. It is Wednesday. We're two 173 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: weeks from Christmas today. I got to remind myself of this. 174 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: You gotta quit screwing around man. Time is up. Gotta 175 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: get your shopping done. Stop yelling at me. I'm yelling 176 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: at me. All right, Oh god, I gotta get my 177 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: act together. They're twenty twenty four. We are armstrong. 178 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: Seriously, seriously, what was the first and name of the 179 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 3: year you've first uttered that sentence to yourself? 180 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: I was eight, Probably we are armstrong. You're getting we 181 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: approve of this program? Yeah, me too. 182 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 3: All right, here we go officially according to FCC rules regulations. 183 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 3: This is exciting, isn't it. Let's start at Mark. 184 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: I love company holiday parties. 185 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,679 Speaker 4: You get to be with people that you work with 186 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 4: all day long for more hours, and you get to 187 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 4: say I love your ugly Christmas sweater and they're like, 188 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 4: that's just my sweater. And you get to be like, hey, 189 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 4: remind me, do you go buy Steve or Steven? And 190 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 4: he's like it's Mark, And your boss tries to crack 191 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 4: a joke and everyone around them does the employment laughter, Like. 192 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 1: There's more to that bit too. 193 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 5: Employment oh that's clever stuff. Oh we haven't had Paul Tarro. 194 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 5: We haven't had a real Christmas party in years. I 195 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,160 Speaker 5: miss him. 196 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Actually before the show we were talking about it and 197 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: everybody was thankful, but we don't have them. But I 198 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: miss him. I think it's good for the camaraderie. It 199 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: changes everything, you know, that couple of hours of getting 200 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: together and having a few drinks and meeting the wife 201 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: or meeting the husband or whatever and talking to them 202 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: about something other than work. Right, Yeah, I would agree. 203 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 3: It was always one of those man we've got to go, honey, 204 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 3: are you and then you get there and it's fun. 205 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: Uh, you're right because we. 206 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: Used to work with a lot of really cool, creative 207 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 3: people and the Christmas party somewhat oh yeah, yeah, real ravers. 208 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: I's around some people last couple of days who had 209 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,439 Speaker 1: these great Christmas parties they were telling stories about and 210 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: I thought, oh, yeah, that still happened someplaces. Well, good 211 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: for you. How does mailbag look? Oh? Very good? Quite strong? 212 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: Was the general manager today? Coming together? Shared values? Okay? 213 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: Our text line is four one five two nine five KFTC. 214 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: I know you're trying to be christmasy, Michael, but I 215 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: don't think Jesus likes this music. 216 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 3: No, No, indeed, the three wise men, all three of 217 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 3: them thumbs down. Got a lot of great stuff to 218 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 3: talk about today. His usual first year freedom loving quote 219 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: of the day. Loved this sent along by David and NAPA. 220 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: Good call David. 221 00:11:58,000 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: He was. 222 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 3: Listening to the show Slash podcast yesterday and he said, 223 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 3: this is perfectly related to your discussion. 224 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: I think you'll get the context. It's from C. S. 225 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: Lewis in his fabulous book That Hate, Hideous Strength, from 226 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 3: the antagonist, Why you fool? It's the educated reader who 227 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 3: can be gulled. All of our difficulty comes with the others. 228 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 3: When did you meet a workman who believes the papers? 229 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 3: He takes it for granted that they're all propaganda and 230 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 3: skips the leading articles. He buys his paper for the 231 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: football results and the little paragraphs about girls falling out 232 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 3: of windows and the corpses found in Mayfair flats. 233 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: He is our problem. We have to recondition him. 234 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 3: But the educated public, the people who read the high 235 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: brow weeklies, they don't need reconditioning. They're right, they're all right, 236 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: all right already. They'll believe anything. 237 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: Wow, what year was that ridden Oh gosh, the fifties 238 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: probably CSL. 239 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, there are some ideas so crazy only an intellectual 240 00:12:57,320 --> 00:13:01,559 Speaker 3: could believe them. Thomas Sowell. It's it's just it's it's 241 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 3: a facet of humankind that's really interesting. Smart does not 242 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: come close to equaling wise referring sometimes the greatest wisdom 243 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 3: is from the simplest people who live the simplest. 244 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: Lives, no doubt, referring, of course, to many things, including 245 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: the valedictorian of the private school in Ivy League who 246 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: murdered somebody is now in prison, right right, mailbag or 247 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: in jail. He's played the clips of that yesterday when 248 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:33,359 Speaker 1: he was shouting out as he was led into the courthouse. 249 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 3: What a progressive grad school egomaniac nonsense being praised by 250 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 3: various quarters online people are nuts. I was thinking of 251 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: him actually when I said our general manager was shared values. Yeah, 252 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: and you don't get to murder somebody in cold blood. 253 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: That's one of them. 254 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: Anyway. Drop his note mail back at Armstrong and Getty 255 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: dot com. Scott from Pleasant Hill with some delightful sarcasm here, 256 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: I must be having internet problems because I missed the 257 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 3: calls for more gun control after the White CEO is killed, 258 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: right after the haunter Biden pardon, can you guys fill 259 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 3: us in? 260 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 2: Please? 261 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: Wow? 262 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: Excellent point, my friend, well said Tom, and SoCal writes, 263 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 3: Dear Jack and Joe, I believe I have come across 264 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: a word that may explain Jack's eating habits. It is 265 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: a Japanese word, and I'll do my best. Kutcha sabishi. 266 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: It means when you're not hungry, but you eat because 267 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 3: your mouth is lonely. 268 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: Your mouth is lonely. 269 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: I haven't been able to confirm yet whether or not 270 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: the Japanese would apply this to grabbing the last package 271 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 3: of grocery store sushi late at night. That's great, Tom, 272 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 3: And then he says, not sure. When you're breaking for 273 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: the holidays. One to wish you and your family's all 274 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 3: the best, to say thanks for another great year of entertainment, 275 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 3: learning and laughing. Thank you, Tom. That's very kind of you, indeed. 276 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: And then I'll follow it. 277 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: Up maybe in about a half an hour, I might 278 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: just walk out of here. 279 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: I'll follow it up with this from Tim, So Joe 280 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: Petty hates the media, Well, just who is the media 281 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 3: these days? 282 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Joseph? 283 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: It's you me, and every other jackass with an opinion 284 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 3: and a keyboard. Still, it must be nice to cast 285 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: dispersions without worrying about getting bitch slapped. But that's the 286 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 3: beauty of having studio courage. 287 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: Isn't it. 288 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: Don't have to face the consequences of your words. All right, A, 289 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 3: what in the name of God are you talking about? 290 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: Bee? 291 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 3: I hope you get help with your anger problems. Moving along, 292 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 3: Andy and beautiful Martinez, California guys, I'll keep a short 293 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: T shirt idea for you Californians against cal Unicornia. 294 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: Andy. That's brilliant. 295 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: That's great because you know, it's not like anybody in 296 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: the show hates California. 297 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: It's that it's been. 298 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 3: Taken over by a hostile regime. You know, the evil 299 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 3: rebels took over the country. 300 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: Yes, Governor Gavin Newsom on TV something he did yesterday, 301 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: and he's got aviators on with his always slick back hair. 302 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: He's too tan for winter, which is a phrase I 303 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: just thought of an autobi a phrase too tan for 304 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: winter and one too many buttons unbuttoned on his shirt, 305 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: slick back hair. Aviator's unbuttoned shirt tan. That's how you 306 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: look if you want to get laid by a certain 307 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: kind of woman. That's not how you look if you 308 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 1: want to be governor or president. 309 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 3: Oh, he is such a I need to search my 310 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 3: vocabulary for a word that's up to describing him that 311 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: isn't obscene. But he's you fill in the blanket home, folks, 312 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 3: in whatever way we but he's a big one about you. 313 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: Laugh. I laughed. I love this. 314 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 3: Speaking of which, John from Colorado is in the Bay Area, California, 315 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 3: is going to be riding the bart today, the Bay 316 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: Area Rapid Transit, and he says, gentlemen taking Barton in 317 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 3: the city today, Joe, you're a golfer. Should I menacingly 318 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 3: clutch my three iron or five iron during the ride? John, 319 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: I would suggest a sand wedge because of the weight 320 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: in the head and the leading edge that's gonna do 321 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 3: some serious damage. 322 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. You gotta wait until the crazy 323 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 1: person actually stabs somebody or punches somebody before you can 324 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: do anything. You just have to listen to them and 325 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: watch them stomp around angrily and threaten people before you 326 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: do anything. Apparently, well, and. 327 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 3: As a society, we'll watch them punch somebody over and 328 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 3: over and over again, and do nothing until they kill 329 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 3: somebody and then talk about what a shame it is 330 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: that we don't have better rehabs. 331 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Or something something something. Yeah, we got a lot to 332 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: talk about today, as we've already mentioned. Hope you can 333 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: stick around if you missed our get the podcast. Armstrong 334 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: and Getty on Demand. 335 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 3: Are strong and Getty. 336 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 6: People are not thrilled with the Altuna McDonald's employees who 337 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 6: mickfingered him. Several nasty Google reviews have been left of 338 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 6: the Altuna location, including they got rats behind the counter, 339 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 6: do not recommend, while many other simple left one star 340 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 6: reviews citing bad service and so called snitches. You know 341 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 6: what they say, snitches get filet of fishes. 342 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,880 Speaker 1: That's clever, It's yeah, it's troubling. It's interesting the lighthearted 343 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: jokes about this, and I am not the humor police ever, etc. 344 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 1: I've did that on their news segment. And then there's 345 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Colbert there Anywhoh, the fact that Google had to take 346 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: down the place that you comment on that McDonald's like 347 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 1: as a favorite of the McDonald's, because all these people 348 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: were saying all these vile things about the McDonald's and 349 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: trying to dos people who worked there in addition to 350 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: that point. 351 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: Of order, mister chairman, before we get to the serious stuff. 352 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 3: Who reviews a freaking McDonald's. The food tastes like every 353 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 3: other McDonald's on her. 354 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: I know, everything gets reviewed, which is hilarious, and I 355 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: do find it. We found this. 356 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 3: Quarter pounded with cheese, consistent but unexceptional. 357 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: Well it's all complaints, you know, So it's always the 358 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,880 Speaker 1: girl who worked there was, you know, drunk or whatever. 359 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 3: Okay, fine, me too. You pull a devil's shift behind 360 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 3: a fry machine, sa ie, you don't want to have 361 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 3: a drink. 362 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: So the people trying to docks the employees at McDonald's, 363 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: who may have been the snitches who called the cops 364 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: on their folk hero there, which is obviously cold. 365 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 3: Blooded, self important, rich educated murderer, your hero fu boy, 366 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 3: And I saw we got a little bit of the 367 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 3: lawyer for this scumbag murderer. 368 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: Later he's done an interview, so not surprisingly, his lawyer 369 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: is a super activist also and was on CNN talking 370 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: about billionaires this or whatever, some sort of class warfare. 371 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: You're a rich lawyer representing a kid of like the 372 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: highest privilege, I mean, like the elite of earth. What 373 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: are you talking about. But what was my point? 374 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 3: Oh? 375 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: The lawyer mentioned that they've had so many people offer 376 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: to pay the legal defense of this kid. Yeah. Yeah, 377 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: money's just money's just rolling in to support this guy. 378 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,639 Speaker 1: And I should stop calling him a kid. You were 379 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: right yesterday when I said that it is just because 380 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: we're old and bitter, and because he's twenty six. He 381 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 1: is like a child to me. But when we when 382 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: Joe and I were twenty six, we were working together 383 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: and at a radio station, and I did not feel 384 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: like a child at that time. So I gotta quit 385 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: calling him a kid. But this twenty six year old scumbag, 386 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: life of privilege, murderous, just crazy person, and you're gonna 387 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: give your money to his legal defense. What is wrong 388 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: with you? Yeah? I know, I know. 389 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 3: It's you know, the enemy of mine, enemy is my friend, 390 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: no matter how awful he is and how over the 391 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: top what he did is I just want to show 392 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 3: which side of them on. 393 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 1: But could there be a less sympathetic character. You're the 394 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: sort of person that has money to throw around to help. 395 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: I guess the downtrodden or the afflict you're gonna go 396 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: with him? Went to a forty thousand dollars a here 397 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: junior high and then an Ivy League school, and his 398 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: parents own a country club. You're he's the guy you're 399 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 1: gonna help? Wow? 400 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would seriously, And again I get the very 401 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: base animal instinct of all right, insurance companies are sometimes 402 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 3: cruel and turning down care. There's documentation of them be 403 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 3: behaving on ethically that sort of thing, and United Healthcare 404 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 3: is certainly a giant one of those. And I get 405 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 3: the initial impulse. But then if you can't let your 406 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 3: frontal lobe take over and ask yourself, all right, are 407 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: all the CEOs of all the insurance companies okay to murder? 408 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 3: What if they are a woman? What if they're a 409 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 3: black guy? Just to examine your own beliefs? 410 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: All right? 411 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 3: What other industries are are not terribly a sympathetic these days? 412 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 3: Can we murder all of their CEOs? 413 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: Or what? Explain to me your moral code here? This 414 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: one is tough because, like Joe Rogan on his Much 415 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 1: Listen To Podcasts yesterday, for whatever reason, I never hear 416 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan's podcast, but he blasted the dirty healthcare industry 417 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 1: as effing gross. 418 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 3: A lot of truth to that, right. 419 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: But I'm really uncomfortable with the conversation being had because 420 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: a guy got murdered in cold blood, because it definitely 421 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: sends the message that if you want to get an 422 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: issue addressed, you murder so many in cold blood and 423 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: then people will start discussing your issue. That's not good. 424 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 3: Well, and I suspect very strongly, although I didn't hear 425 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: it that Joe, like virtually everybody who talks about this, 426 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 3: completely leaves out the fact that anything that's happening in 427 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 3: healthcare right now, anything that's happening in health insurance, is 428 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: happening because of government. 429 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: Policy, right And as I keep saying, I assume most 430 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: of these people, Luigi and others would be for government healthcare. 431 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: And please do a little research about other countries that 432 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: have government run healthcare and whether or not you get 433 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: fair quick treatment then that you're always happy with and 434 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 1: nobody gets denied or has to wait for care till 435 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: they die. Happens all the time. 436 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: People come from England, Canada, other places to the United 437 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: States to get care because they can't get any through 438 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 3: their government healthcare. 439 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: Right, Yep, it's very frustrating. Okay, different topic just came 440 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: across this poll first poll I've seen anyway on ap 441 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: Nork poll. It's one of your believed in polls, credible polls. 442 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: Joe Biden partning his son. Approval rating on Joe Biden 443 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: Partning Hunter twenty two percent, twenty two percent, And the 444 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: only reason it has twenty two percent is because you 445 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 1: got like forty percent of Democrats say it's okay, really, 446 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: and like zero percent of a Republican So you will 447 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 1: justify any Yeah, yeah, everybody. If there's one thing I 448 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: could get people to do, it's not say yes or no, 449 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 1: right or wrong based on whether or not it's your side. 450 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,719 Speaker 1: Try as hard as you can to separate these things out. 451 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:09,920 Speaker 1: There's no way forty Democrats think Joe Biden Pardning Hunter 452 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: was a good thing, not a chance Hanson label. 453 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 3: This segment of the podcast, Jack Comma charmingly. Comma asks 454 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 3: for moral consistency from mankind. 455 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: Right, you're one hundred percent right? Of course, I know. 456 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: Do we used to do better at this or not? 457 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: Am I wrong about that? I feel like we used 458 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: to do better at this at times. At times I 459 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 1: think we did. There have definitely been eras. 460 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 3: We'll just restrict our discussion to the us of a 461 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 3: but there have been times in this country that yeah, 462 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: unity and shared values were very important, and that if 463 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 3: you violated those shared values, it didn't matter if you're 464 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: on mis's hide or not for the vast majority of us. 465 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 3: But that that's that that feeling of unity ebbs and flows, 466 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 3: and it's it's at a low, low ebb right now 467 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: in my opinion. 468 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: Well, to argue with myself and I said this a 469 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,399 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, but because I'm old, I'd forgotten it. 470 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 1: Learning in the book Sapiens that that's one of the 471 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: things evolutionary speaking, that has allowed Homo sapiens to survive, 472 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: is that we go with we're gonna follow our leader, 473 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: what right or wrong he's on it, We're on his side. 474 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: Because if you have a whole bunch of people who 475 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: are like, I don't know, I kind of agree with 476 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: our leader, but you know he's not completely right about this. 477 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm about sixty forty, the other tribe that believes in 478 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: their leader is going to come in whoop your ass. Wow. 479 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 1: So there's a great advantage to right or wrong. It's 480 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: my team, let's go. There's a big advantage. 481 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: And in my head around good point Where does that 482 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: leave us? 483 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, easton confused, morally unmoored. 484 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 3: What now where do I turn? I guess you hope 485 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 3: an interesting point. 486 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 1: I guess you hope that our intellect is able to 487 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 1: override that to a certain a certain extent. 488 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think it's a There are a thousand 489 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 3: examples of this. It's like the like during the worst 490 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 3: moments of the way over the top me too movement 491 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 3: or the BLM thing or whatever. But where these these 492 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 3: lunatics were like condemning if you said, well, you look 493 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 3: great today, or you know, out with a coworker, would 494 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 3: you like to get coffee away from work someday? That 495 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 3: was just a horrendous crime. Because all of human courtship 496 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,239 Speaker 3: is evil and leads to forcible rape. That was a 497 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 3: crazy attitude. A certain amount of the natural course of 498 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: human courtship, including the woman not refusing consent but delaying consent. Sure, 499 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 3: that's part of our mating dance, has been for millions 500 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:48,639 Speaker 3: of years. 501 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Absolutely right. 502 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 3: It's that last percent that turns ugly that we've got 503 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 3: to rein in with our intellect. We're better than chimps. Well, 504 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 3: some of us are better. A few of us are 505 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: better than chimps. And it's that last bit of my 506 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 3: leader right or wrong, even as he gases ten million 507 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 3: Jews for instance, or you know, whatever example you'd like 508 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: to give. 509 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: And then a science story before we take a break 510 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: that I read yesterday about how we kind of have 511 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: a brain in our stomach. Scientists have discovered down at 512 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Caltech or tiny little portions of a brain. And it's first. 513 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 3: Only has my schwunstick have been attempting to take control 514 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 3: and make the decisions in my life. Now my stomach 515 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: is swighing in his way. 516 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: Well, that's what they got to discover, is the leader's 517 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: a really unwise brain down there in your genitals. 518 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 3: Kind of single minded, yes, a bit myopic. Yeah, as 519 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: I think you're leading up to a point. 520 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: There are similar neurons in our gut as there are 521 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: into our brain. And they're saying there's not a lot 522 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: of difference between just being a tiny little brain that 523 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: makes various decisions on situations. So should we be digesting 524 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: the food and doing the normal thing, or are we 525 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: in a crisis now where we better hold back, slow 526 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: everything down so you can deal with things. 527 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: Sure, we don't need the muscle I'm sorry. The blood 528 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 3: flow to our digestion digestive tract. We need it in 529 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 3: our muscles right now. Yeah, you also don't need to 530 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 3: be sing your p while you're I don't know what 531 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 3: phrase you losing your mud? We you know when you're 532 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 3: when you're in a crucial situation. Well, right, that's that's 533 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 3: weird Freudian slip right there, Michael, am I wrong? Did 534 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 3: I just hear that or the way he pronounced the situation? 535 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 3: I think was all right? If it makes you a grain, 536 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 3: leave it in. Yeah, that's a fascinating thought. We have 537 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,200 Speaker 3: neuron networks that make decisions. 538 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then many many brains, right, and they discovered 539 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: in the and they think it might be more places 540 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: in the body, meaning the whole brain system is more 541 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: complex and spread out than they'd ever thought before. Now 542 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: that's thought provoking. Is the genital's angles pretty funny? All right? 543 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: You know it doesn't need a brain because it's it's 544 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: always Yes, it's not like he's making a lot of decisions. Yes, 545 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: but the circuit I'm seeing some red flags being waved. 546 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Nat forget about it. Yes, well let's do it. I'm 547 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: all in, who's in, who's with? 548 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: Me. 549 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: She's clearly nuts. 550 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: Yes, we've got Oh, I a downer after all this laughing. 551 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: I want to get to some of the commentary around 552 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 3: the dude that got choked to death by Daniel Penny, Yeah, 553 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 3: and trying to make you hear out of him yesterday. 554 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: It was just amazing, amazing. Can't wait to read this 555 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: to you. You'll be amazed yourself. And other stuff. We're 556 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: gonna get to Katie's headlines on the way, shoy. I'm 557 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: not stealing one of your headlines, Katie, but inflation ticked 558 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: up in November two point seven percent first time line, Jack, 559 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: Did I steal one of your headlines? 560 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: Total? 561 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: That's a good one. 562 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 3: Well, and I want to talk about Crooner's and he 563 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 3: brings up inflation. 564 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: God, you're a drag. I am. I am no fun. 565 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 1: I am no fun. 566 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 3: I want to talk about Dean Martin's boozy warblings and 567 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: you want to talk about inflation? 568 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: What next? 569 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,040 Speaker 3: The Federal Reserve? 570 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: Are you a Frank Sinatra fan? I've never really gotten 571 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 1: into Frank Sinatra. I shouldn't take some time on it. 572 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 1: It's like one of those bands I like, but I 573 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: don't love. Yeah, I just I don't think I've taken 574 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: the time I should take the time. There's got to 575 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: be a reason. Do you're not that big a deal 576 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: by accident. Yes, phrasing is cool if you're into that 577 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: sort of thing. 578 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: But anyway, let's talk about including the Biden administration taking 579 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: a victory lap on their great win in Syria, which 580 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 3: is beyond inappropriate. I mean, it's practically bizarre. But first 581 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 3: let's figure out who's reporting what it's lead story with 582 00:30:59,160 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 3: Katie Green. 583 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 7: Katie, thank you guys USA today CEO Gunman Merchandise raises controversy, 584 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 7: claims of glorifying violence. 585 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: What's the merchandise? 586 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: Oh, people are making. 587 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 7: Shirts with his face on Etsy and posting. 588 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: BDI delayed defend shirts and sweatshirts and hats. 589 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: And I'm starting to agree with people who think this 590 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: is a like turning point, watershed moment, something or other 591 00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: inflection point in terms of our going off the rails 592 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: as a country. 593 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 3: It's nineteen sixty eight to seventy three. Again, We're going 594 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 3: to see bombings and assassinations and god knows what else 595 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 3: because everybody's going to be so still justified in their 596 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 3: own heads that their gripe is the gripe and I'm 597 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 3: so right, I get to hurt people. 598 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: CNN. 599 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 7: Syrians celebrate falla facade as Israel strikes nearly five hundred targets. 600 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: They thought, here's our opportunity. This is a tree, that's 601 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: a tact us we've been worried about. They no longer 602 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: have an army, navy, or military or the ability to 603 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: produce anything for a military. In four days, it's all gone. 604 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 3: Meanwhile, the main rebel guys are continuing to say the 605 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 3: right things about human rights and then freedom and that 606 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 3: sort of thing. We'll keep an eye on it. 607 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, who knows, this guy might the leader, whatever his 608 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: name is. He might turn out to be an islamis 609 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 1: horrifying job. But his body language and the way he 610 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: talks is definitely different than most of these people. 611 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 7: From the Washington Post, Ukraine races to develop its own 612 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 7: long range weapons to counter Russia. From the New York Times, 613 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 7: Biden administration looks to reinforce US China ties ahead of 614 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 7: Trump's return ties. 615 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the bidens the problem now. 616 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: And I hate all these New York Times stories where 617 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: they they're like the Gavin Newsom trump proofing California. Everything 618 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 1: he's got to come from the angle of gotta get 619 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: this done before the evil Trump comes in. Oh, shut 620 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 1: up with that. 621 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 7: From the New York Post, women are getting quote designer 622 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 7: nipple fillers for Perkier bosoms. 623 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: Saw that. 624 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 7: What is that true? Well, going brawless is becoming a thing. 625 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: I live in college town. I've become aware of that. 626 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 7: Kim Kardashian released a bra that had a nipple built in, 627 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 7: and then it just kind of took off from there. 628 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: Your meme of the Yeah, your meme of the day, 629 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: think about. 630 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 3: This nineteen ninety eight. 631 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 7: Don't get into a car with strangers two thousand and eight. 632 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 7: Don't meet people from the internet alone twenty twenty four. 633 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 7: Order yourself the stranger from the internet and get into 634 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 7: a car alone with them. 635 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: Oh that's pretty funny. Yeah. 636 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 7: And finally, the Babylon be Biden cancels aid to Syria 637 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 7: after finding out some needy Americans live there. 638 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, Hey, Katie, I used bad form in 639 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 3: the gym yesterday and strained my shoulder, and this morning 640 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 3: I have to pick up my left arm to reach 641 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 3: for the mouse. 642 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: Wow. 643 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 3: Boy, you gotta stay out of the gym. It's dangerous 644 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 3: in there. 645 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: The public service announcement. 646 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 3: Right, I never strained my shoulder like laying around on 647 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 3: a couch. 648 00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: I did this. I did this the other day. 649 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 7: I was lifting at the gym and then I went 650 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 7: to change the toilet paper roll and it was lights 651 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,720 Speaker 7: out for my shoulder. 652 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:39,959 Speaker 3: And it's still not all the way. 653 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: Back to normal. That sucks. Yeah. 654 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:45,439 Speaker 3: Wow, welcome to something like middle age. You're too young 655 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 3: to be described as middle aged. You're no longer a 656 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 3: kid officially, right. Weird injuries you get reaching into the 657 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,240 Speaker 3: back seat, for instance, you're not a kid anymore. 658 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: Some high school kid almost dropped a thirty five pound 659 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: plate on my foot the other day, just missed it. 660 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 1: I would have been in an ambulance and never walked 661 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: correctly again. If that had landed on the top of 662 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: my foot, you really would have had Yeah. 663 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're dangers of the gym. 664 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 1: Stay you never get hurt like that. If you all, 665 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 1: you can eat the feet. I'm just saying we've got 666 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: a lot more news on the way. I hope you 667 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 1: can stay. Well. 668 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 5: This is we do four hours. 669 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: If you must an hour gets podcast, subscribe 670 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 5: Armstrong and Getty