Speaker 1: Hey, Happy Hour listeners, I hope you enjoyed these throwback
Speaker 1: episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes
Speaker 1: very soon.
Speaker 2: All right, back to our Happy Hour listeners. We still
Speaker 2: have Hannah an here. Part two is dropping now, So
Speaker 2: here is the rest of that conversation.
Speaker 1: Let's dive in.
Speaker 2: So after the engagement goes down, you know, you guys
Speaker 2: are together for a few days. I'm assuming at that
Speaker 2: point it was good. Obviously you knew he had probably
Speaker 2: been struggling a little bit. But how you had how
Speaker 2: many happy couple times to get which And for the
Speaker 2: listeners who don't know happy couple, it's a weekend where
Speaker 2: they fly the couple out to LA You stay in
Speaker 2: a house for a few days to do a couple
Speaker 2: things and to get to know each other because you
Speaker 2: can't be in public.
Speaker 1: So how many of those weekends did you have together?
Speaker 3: We had, I believe a total of three, including Australia.
Speaker 2: Okay, And when you guys are in those moments, I'm
Speaker 2: assuming you were talking about the future and making plans
Speaker 2: about what we.
Speaker 3: Were looking into, you know, moving in together, looking at apartments.
Speaker 3: I mean, we were serious and really it was just
Speaker 3: when the season started, was when I started, you know,
Speaker 3: to feel his hesitation, and that didn't sit.
Speaker 4: Well with me.
Speaker 3: But there again, he was giving me those words of affirmation.
Speaker 1: To keep me there.
Speaker 3: I'm not a dumb ass. I'm not just gonna stay
Speaker 3: with someone, you know, just because of a commitment and
Speaker 3: just because I want them.
Speaker 4: No, he was giving me those words of affirmation.
Speaker 3: That kept me there, that kept you know, that fueled me.
Speaker 4: To be like, Okay, I'm going to fight for this.
Speaker 3: You know, yes we're in an un you know, yes
Speaker 3: we're in an abnormal circumstance, but you know what, I
Speaker 3: made this commitment and I love you and I'm going
Speaker 3: to fight for you. You know, That's where all that came from.
Speaker 5: Did after the season started, did y'all have another happy
Speaker 5: couple Couples weekend? Or was the first time y'all saw
Speaker 5: each other after the season started when the breakup happened.
Speaker 3: We had a happy couple the end of December and
Speaker 3: in January, and then the last one was when we
Speaker 3: broke up. And that was like a full month of
Speaker 3: not seeing each other, which is a lot of why
Speaker 3: he blamed how he was struggling and so walking into
Speaker 3: that day. You know. I even have a voicemail from
Speaker 3: him saying, you know, I love you, can't wait.
Speaker 5: To see you.
Speaker 3: And going into that day, you know, I knew it
Speaker 3: was going to be a tough conversation and we both
Speaker 3: even said we will move past this. We will you know,
Speaker 3: overcome this as a couple.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: And was that the first time y'all had the cameras
Speaker 5: at the Happy Couple week? Yess so when you saw
Speaker 5: the cameras, what did you think?
Speaker 3: I knew something was up, but there again, you know,
Speaker 3: through text messages and voicemails, I trusted his word, and
Speaker 3: you know, obviously I'm happy.
Speaker 4: How things ended. I mean, gosh, I was miserable with them.
Speaker 1: I mean I was.
Speaker 3: Miserable really once January started, or once once January started,
Speaker 3: because the whole wishy washing has started, and I was
Speaker 3: just like, I need someone who knows who they are,
Speaker 3: who knows what they want, and who's not going to
Speaker 3: be with someone just because their mom told him to.
Speaker 2: How I remember meaning those moments, how bad was your
Speaker 2: anxiety and that struggle because when you can't be with
Speaker 2: your partner and your states away and you know someone's struggling,
Speaker 2: and that was that was so hard, and you know,
Speaker 2: I was probably the most anxious I've ever been, because
Speaker 2: you want to make this relationship work, you want to
Speaker 2: just be normal with your partner, and you can't.
Speaker 1: And so how did you deal with that?
Speaker 3: How I dealt with it was I was just focusing on,
Speaker 3: you know, forward thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking
Speaker 3: of us ending this together, and the words he was
Speaker 3: feeding me, you know, we will get through this together.
Speaker 4: You know we will. You know, you're my fiance.
Speaker 1: I love you.
Speaker 4: You know you're the love of my life.
Speaker 3: That's what fed me, you know, to continue this forward
Speaker 3: with him.
Speaker 1: All of us would have fed into that.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's my fiance, you know, this is a relationship,
Speaker 3: he's my partner. I trust his words, and you know
Speaker 3: I fell for it, and you know, showing up to
Speaker 3: the breakup, I'm like, oh, these cameras. But we still
Speaker 3: made that commitment that we were gonna, you know, work
Speaker 3: through it. And you know, when he actually sat down
Speaker 3: and told me more of half of the truth he's
Speaker 3: been telling me, which she couldn't give me a full heart,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm tapping out.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I gotta go back to Hannah Brown, because you
Speaker 5: brought it up at tonight and yeah, far so it's
Speaker 5: odcause it's a huge far that bothered you. Yeah, And
Speaker 5: then in talking about it tonight, I guess I still
Speaker 5: feel like I don't understand. I know he said that
Speaker 5: he reached out or wanted to talk to her for closure,
Speaker 5: But how did y'all in that? Were you just like okay, yes,
Speaker 5: talk to her? Did you ask again, hey, have you
Speaker 5: talked to her?
Speaker 2: Like what?
Speaker 1: Okay? He said it to you?
Speaker 3: But then what the reason why that was brought up
Speaker 3: is because it wasn't just one woman involved that we
Speaker 3: were having to discuss. It was you know, he proposed
Speaker 3: to me still being in love with Madison and still
Speaker 3: needing closure with Hannah Brown, completely blindsided to that there's
Speaker 3: three women involved in this, and that was brought up
Speaker 3: because that was a huge part of our relationship with
Speaker 3: him trying to convince me that he needed closure, and
Speaker 3: then I should be understanding of that.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, gosh, like.
Speaker 5: But that's what I want to talk about, is him
Speaker 5: trying to convince you?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, like help us understand.
Speaker 5: That, Like what I don't necessarily need to understand what
Speaker 5: he was saying to you to convince you, But how
Speaker 5: did that? Did he say, oh, I talked to her?
Speaker 5: Or did you say okay, I give you my blessing?
Speaker 5: Did you ever follow up and say have you talked
Speaker 5: to her?
Speaker 1: What happened? Are you good?
Speaker 4: They on some level.
Speaker 3: Had communicated, and he came to me saying, you know,
Speaker 3: I need to speak with Hannah Brown because I need closure.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, why do you need closure?
Speaker 1: Like why you're engaged?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, didn't you have that on
Speaker 3: the show? I should we should probably watch this episode.
Speaker 3: Once I watched the episode, I'm like, well, where do
Speaker 3: your feelings stand? He's like, well, we're engaged, but I
Speaker 3: you know, we both just need me and hand around
Speaker 3: both dieclosure And I'm just like, okay, well can I.
Speaker 4: Is this in person? Is this on and off camera?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Off camera?
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I kind of feel uncomfortable after watching
Speaker 3: that last episode and now you're saying any closure.
Speaker 4: That kind of doesn't really sit well with me.
Speaker 1: We're engaged, like, we're not just dating, we're engaged. See
Speaker 1: what happened? How did it end?
Speaker 3: It ended in him saying that he needed it, and
Speaker 3: then I needed to support him, and I'm just like
Speaker 3: I don't know how I quite feel about that. And
Speaker 3: then shortly after that that was where the whole we
Speaker 3: were shifted to our other issue of him feeling like
Speaker 3: he had unresolved issues in regards.
Speaker 4: To watching the show. So there was so many issues
Speaker 4: going on.
Speaker 3: I'm just I was miserable.
Speaker 1: I'm just like.
Speaker 3: Trying to figure out who can I talk to? Who
Speaker 3: can I like figure out like am I just being.
Speaker 4: Am I being too sensitive?
Speaker 3: Or am I you know, not being treated how I deserve?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Okay, coming in with somebody who has been in your issues.
Speaker 1: There are so many.
Speaker 2: Weird factors to starting out this sort of relationship where
Speaker 2: you don't know where to turn and to add in
Speaker 2: all these added things. Handah Brown shouldn't have even been
Speaker 2: an issue at that point that you.
Speaker 3: It shouldn't have been an argument at that point. And
Speaker 3: as this is like the season's going on, like how
Speaker 3: about checking up on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling?
Speaker 3: And then you're just having all these issues. You know,
Speaker 3: seeing Madison in your first day, seeing Hannah Brown, now
Speaker 3: you need to talk to her.
Speaker 1: It's like Calley like, do you think he part rock?
Speaker 1: Do you think part of him still loved Hannah Brown
Speaker 1: and in that moment.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he had unresolved in.
Speaker 1: Back then or still in January.
Speaker 4: I think still in January when he was with you. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and that was the argument.
Speaker 1: And did you say that he was in love with her?
Speaker 3: Okay, he just said he needed to talk with her.
Speaker 4: And I'm just like, what, like we're engaged, Like I thought, yeah,
Speaker 4: that we've moved. I thought you've moved past all of that.
Speaker 3: Like I've been completely blindsided, Like here I am, I
Speaker 3: don't need to be contacting two x's about have enclosure,
Speaker 3: like I'm here, I'm ready for you, and like although
Speaker 3: I wasn't able to see the whole season, like the
Speaker 3: audience is now, like I was blindsided to any.
Speaker 1: Of this well, And you should have been his number
Speaker 1: one priority.
Speaker 2: That's where his heart and his worry and his attention.
Speaker 1: Should have lied. Is that the right should have lied,
Speaker 1: should like whatever you.
Speaker 2: Know grammar here, but but you should have been the
Speaker 2: number one priority in his life.
Speaker 1: And it seems like multiple things were taken that away.
Speaker 2: And I feel for you because I get that, and
Speaker 2: it's such a shitty feeling. And where you say you
Speaker 2: wanted to be that sports system you wanted to get
Speaker 2: through together, and like you, as a woman in his position,
Speaker 2: it's like you still hurt and you still struggle, but
Speaker 2: you don't know who to talk to because you can't
Speaker 2: talk to most people about it, and if he's struggling,
Speaker 2: you can't talk to him constantly about it because he's
Speaker 2: trying to work through his own shit.
Speaker 1: And so who did you talk to? Who did you
Speaker 1: lean on? Really?
Speaker 3: Is you know what I didn't even tell I did
Speaker 3: not even tell my parents until after our breakup because
Speaker 3: I knew deep down my parents would have said get
Speaker 3: out and run, run for the hills, dodge that bullet.
Speaker 4: So no one really, I mean, I was trying to, you.
Speaker 3: Know, for me, I made that commitment to him, and
Speaker 3: I thought we were going to be teammates, like this
Speaker 3: is what we work through together. This shouldn't divide us,
Speaker 3: this should make us stronger. And that was kind of
Speaker 3: what I always tried to do. And you know, in
Speaker 3: a breakup, I said, you know, this has to.
Speaker 4: Be fifty to fifty. And I haven't been feeling that.
Speaker 2: You made a comment during that breakup and I loved
Speaker 2: it because it's stuck with me. You said, I am
Speaker 2: my own rock, and in that moment, I was sitting
Speaker 2: there like, yes, girl, Like, if you're not getting what
Speaker 2: you need in this relationship and he can't promise all
Speaker 2: the things he has told you, you have to be
Speaker 2: your own rock.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, good for you.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that it came as a blindside
Speaker 2: and probably one of the hardest breakups because it's not
Speaker 2: easy when you know millions of people are watching.
Speaker 1: But you.
Speaker 2: Seem like you still have that strength, and so kudos
Speaker 2: to you like that.
Speaker 1: I'm very proud of you and I and I.
Speaker 2: Will say this like we still have much to talk about,
Speaker 2: but I will say this is going to be one
Speaker 2: of the hardest moments in your life, but you will
Speaker 2: be just fine in the future and have all the
Speaker 2: faith that you will like you, this will only make
Speaker 2: you stronger and realize what you truly deserve in a relationship.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you already have. You know, we said
Speaker 5: it at the top of the podcast, you want tonight,
Speaker 5: and not just because you saw what kind of unraveled
Speaker 5: after you were on stage, but just because maybe you
Speaker 5: had your voice before, but we saw you find your
Speaker 5: voice and you were very matter of fact and you
Speaker 5: were very It was like you knew exactly what you
Speaker 5: needed to say and what he needed to hear, and
Speaker 5: he literally couldn't respond to it. He couldn't defend himself
Speaker 5: because it was kind of like you're right, you're right,
Speaker 5: and you stood up to him and said, you took
Speaker 5: these moments away from me that I can't it back.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm going to be okay because
Speaker 1: I'm going to get myself through it.
Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, that's really what matters,
Speaker 5: Like you can't depend on somebody else.
Speaker 1: You realize, like in those.
Speaker 5: Moments, you realize you're stronger than you think. So, like,
Speaker 5: kudos to you, I give you a standing ovation. If
Speaker 5: we were on TV right now, But I think America
Speaker 5: is going to see how you responded. They already are
Speaker 5: right Like, I'm sure you're trending on Twitter as we speak.
Speaker 2: Oh, people are probably then mowing you money to buy
Speaker 2: your own drinks right now. I'm going to after this podcast,
Speaker 2: treat yourself, take yourself a bottle of champagne because you
Speaker 2: deserve it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, call Kelsey. I'm sure she's getting like
Speaker 5: a plus throat champagne like.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 4: I think me and Kelsey, need to go out for
Speaker 4: some champagne later.
Speaker 1: Girls, you do, and myself.
Speaker 5: I do have a question though, because you did see
Speaker 5: tonight like you had one moment and then it was
Speaker 5: like it was like that was one half and then
Speaker 5: the second half was kind of what happened after. And
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure you saw how supportive Barb is of you,
Speaker 5: whether you watched it last night or you saw tonight,
Speaker 5: how she was clapping every single time you were missing.
Speaker 5: She mentioned she was clapping every time you responded to Peter,
Speaker 5: like against her old song.
Speaker 1: She was claping for you, and she was eyeing him down.
Speaker 1: She was giving Peter, And.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh, I think people want to know
Speaker 3: the love that she has for you, and the love
Speaker 3: that she has for you is because you love her
Speaker 3: son or loved her son unconditionally, and that's all a
Speaker 3: mother really wants to see.
Speaker 5: And I get they're not in the relationship and that's
Speaker 5: a whole and you know, you and Peter have your
Speaker 5: own relationship outside of that, but that's what a mother
Speaker 5: wants for her child and she saw that in you.
Speaker 1: Have you talked to Barb since then?
Speaker 4: Talk to Barb?
Speaker 5: And by that I mean I'm talking dms, I'm talking comments,
Speaker 5: I'm talking texts.
Speaker 3: Barb after a breakup, she definitely reached out a couple
Speaker 3: of times I ended up.
Speaker 4: You know, I love Barb.
Speaker 1: I do too.
Speaker 3: I honestly I could break down crying just thinking about
Speaker 3: her right now because I miss her so much. But
Speaker 3: I knew that forgiveness is only way forward, and I
Speaker 3: needed to work on leading up to this day, to
Speaker 3: forgive Peter and to move forward. And doing that is
Speaker 3: you know, isolating myself from anyone close to him. And
Speaker 3: I can't, you know, continue to talk to Barb every day,
Speaker 3: you know, if I'm trying to move forward from Peter.
Speaker 3: And you know, that's been also a heartbreak, you know,
Speaker 3: not being able to you know, be a part of
Speaker 3: Barb in her life. I mean that's also a heartbreak
Speaker 3: and a breakup in its own self. And you know, Barb,
Speaker 3: she's a really special person, and she's just looking out
Speaker 3: for her son. She just wants someone to love her
Speaker 3: son and you know, to root for his own happiness
Speaker 3: and to you know, be in a relationship with them
Speaker 3: for the right reasons.
Speaker 5: I love to hear you say that, because she's getting
Speaker 5: such a bad rap because of like I understood where
Speaker 5: her heart.
Speaker 1: Was and what she was saying. Maybe she went just
Speaker 1: a little too funny, but I know she was coming
Speaker 1: from a good place.
Speaker 5: And people are so crazed over Madison that nobody is
Speaker 5: listening to what she's actually saying. So it's very nice
Speaker 5: to hear you give a different side, in the softer
Speaker 5: side of her. Becca and I've both talked to Barb
Speaker 5: as well. We adore her, and it's just a shame
Speaker 5: kind of what I knew tonight. She was being very
Speaker 5: defensive because of the hate that she's receiving online, and
Speaker 5: she's just trying to tell her side of it, and
Speaker 5: it's just not being received at all.
Speaker 4: I mean quite honestly.
Speaker 3: I mean this has come from an ex fiance of Peters,
Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, Peter deserves the world and
Speaker 3: deserves someone that will love him with their whole heart
Speaker 3: and be there for their reasons. And that's where me
Speaker 3: and Barb, you know, connect.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna ask you, do you think that that's Madison.
Speaker 4: I don't know her horror, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I guess I never really knew
Speaker 3: if she loved him or not. I mean she walked
Speaker 3: away from him. But for me, I loved Peter and
Speaker 3: I was never going to leave his side, even through
Speaker 3: the worst. And I think that's what Barb's all in me,
Speaker 3: and that's what she you know, That's what any mother
Speaker 3: wants for their son, is someone to be with them
Speaker 3: that's gonna unconditionally love them.
Speaker 2: I want to know now since because tonight was the
Speaker 2: first time you saw Peter and his family since the
Speaker 2: end of jail or.
Speaker 3: Oh, I can barely look over at his family.
Speaker 1: I knew how I looked at her rest family. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna start crying.
Speaker 2: But how was in that moment sitting next to him,
Speaker 2: did you still have those feelings of some sort of
Speaker 2: lingering love or are you now to the point I
Speaker 2: guess I want to know where you're at, Like, are
Speaker 2: you at the point where you're like you the best?
Speaker 1: I mean, as much as it sucked, thank you for
Speaker 1: doing what you were doing.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'll always have you know a special place
Speaker 3: for him. But I mean he's betrayed me, misled me,
Speaker 3: and that alone has and watching back the season, that
Speaker 3: really resolved a lot of like extra feelings I had
Speaker 3: for him. I mean just I'm watching a play by
Speaker 3: play of me getting deceived, and that alone it was,
Speaker 3: you know, a slap in the face and it's helped
Speaker 3: me move forward. But you know, to be honest, when
Speaker 3: I looked over at his family, yeah, I did, you know, want.
Speaker 1: To start to cry and just you know, I felt.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, me and Peter just had this awesome
Speaker 3: situation and it was like just stripped away from me
Speaker 3: so quickly.
Speaker 4: You know, it was a future that I.
Speaker 3: Lost, but more importantly, it was the loss of a
Speaker 3: person I thought he was. And I think that's what
Speaker 3: I'm grieving over, is the person I thought he was,
Speaker 3: you know, telling me to trust him, and the words
Speaker 3: he you know, gave me that I trusted.
Speaker 4: In were completely.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to call it lies
Speaker 3: or if you just want to call it shallow.
Speaker 1: That we all thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's been very difficult.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine.
Speaker 5: And I think that that's what's so therapeutic for Becca
Speaker 5: to be here in this podcast and to talk to you,
Speaker 5: because she knows exactly what it is that you're going through.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a viewer. I only watch it, and
Speaker 5: I can only empathize with you. It's just it's troubling
Speaker 5: because we talked to Peter before the season or while
Speaker 5: he was still filming, and then right when the season started,
Speaker 5: and I remember we were saying that more than anything
Speaker 5: for him, we wanted him to find love because we
Speaker 5: know how badly he wanted and we know that he
Speaker 5: wanted someone to love him unconditionally.
Speaker 1: That's what he said, That's what he told us.
Speaker 5: And he had it, and then he let it go,
Speaker 5: like and then he still doesn't have it.
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. I saw what I saw.
Speaker 5: What I saw tonight, he still doesn't have He said it,
Speaker 5: you loved him in a way that he has never
Speaker 5: been loved before. Well, I would assume that that means
Speaker 5: the present. Did he not say that tonight.
Speaker 1: Before?
Speaker 5: Literally I don't know what he is with Madison because
Speaker 5: we still didn't get, you know, like a definitive answer
Speaker 5: that basically, he was still saying, you loved him in
Speaker 5: a way that she didn't and that's what you wanted
Speaker 5: and you had it, and then you still chase something,
Speaker 5: which don't get me started on how I think that's
Speaker 5: the issue with man and that's why the Bachelors are
Speaker 5: not successful because they're always chasing something that they can
Speaker 5: never get. And that's why we only have only had
Speaker 5: two that are married at this point.
Speaker 1: And the.
Speaker 3: First one, well, I don't I don't play Yes.
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm still like rare beautiful find.
Speaker 4: I don't play the whole chasing game.
Speaker 3: I mean, I understand you can't, you know, give to
Speaker 3: man everything they want. But also at the same time,
Speaker 3: I don't play games either like you or I don't
Speaker 3: you know what I say to you, I mean, I'm
Speaker 3: very clear, I'm concise, and I expect that in return.
Speaker 4: That's my standards exactly.
Speaker 1: Just be honest with me.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you back you.
Speaker 2: Guys, girls on this show all they want is honestly.
Speaker 1: Why have they not honest? They don't drag me along.
Speaker 5: And that's what's so troubling about what happened this season is, Peter,
Speaker 5: you came from a season where the lead all she
Speaker 5: wanted was to be loved and loved unconditionally.
Speaker 1: And excuse me, it's not.
Speaker 2: Just King.
Speaker 1: You came.
Speaker 5: Peter came from a season where there was a lead
Speaker 5: who was saying, I just want to be loved and
Speaker 5: I want someone to give that to me unconditionally, and
Speaker 5: Peter gave that to her.
Speaker 1: And then she chose Jed, which I can just put
Speaker 1: a period there. We all know what came with that.
Speaker 5: And I would think that going through that hurt, that
Speaker 5: you'd come into your season saying I want to make
Speaker 5: sure that I don't make that same mistake.
Speaker 1: And here you are.
Speaker 5: It is sucks to be in a place of wondering,
Speaker 5: and here he is in a place where now it's
Speaker 5: like unknown, you don't know you're wondering, and with you,
Speaker 5: he didn't have that. And what also message makes me
Speaker 5: so upset is when we talked to him, he said,
Speaker 5: remember this becap, you know who did you first?
Speaker 1: Two things?
Speaker 5: Who did you pick? Because he was still with you
Speaker 5: at this point. Yeah, And I think we were like,
Speaker 5: who did you pick you? Like I'm trying to tell you,
Speaker 5: I can't tell you. Then he said we might have
Speaker 5: said did you always know? We talked about like our
Speaker 5: own situations, and he said he has known since week
Speaker 5: four who his person was.
Speaker 1: Well, he was with.
Speaker 5: You, Yeah, like the season I don't even think an
Speaker 5: when we filmed it, an episode had not aired yet,
Speaker 5: so he was talking about you.
Speaker 1: So you have known from week four.
Speaker 5: There are nine ten weeks of filming, So for what
Speaker 5: do the math six weeks you knew exactly who it
Speaker 5: was that you were going to pick, Yet you still
Speaker 5: went back in time and you watched it and you
Speaker 5: put yourself like It's like, Becka and I can talk
Speaker 5: about this. It's the classic thing of a lead. You
Speaker 5: you watch it, but you never go back and put
Speaker 5: your yourself in it because months have passed since you
Speaker 5: felt those same emotions.
Speaker 1: It's insane, Yeah, it's and.
Speaker 2: It's a weird thing when you watch it back when
Speaker 2: you're going on certain dates with certain people. Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: easy to like feel the feelings you felt in that moment,
Speaker 2: like yes, but be smarter, like realize that was months ago.
Speaker 2: You came to this decision and these choices for a
Speaker 2: certain reason.
Speaker 1: And for him, I hoped that in.
Speaker 2: The moment he saw like how different him and Maddie were, Like, ye,
Speaker 2: you were everything he was saying he wanted. And so
Speaker 2: that's where I think it's harder for the men to
Speaker 2: separate themselves and to realize, oh, that was so long ago,
Speaker 2: and I can't like I and this is one thing
Speaker 2: that already kept saying to that. I'm not sure if
Speaker 2: Peter said, but he wanted to what was the phrase
Speaker 2: he used. He wanted to like feel out all of
Speaker 2: the relationships till the very end, to go through everything
Speaker 2: to get to that point where he knew who who
Speaker 2: it was or what his decision would be. And it's
Speaker 2: like they watched this back and they had this skewed
Speaker 2: timeline in their minds and they think that it's really
Speaker 2: happening when in reality, like, no, this happened three months ago.
Speaker 2: And my question is, and this is what I want
Speaker 2: to ask you. This is not related to what I'm
Speaker 2: talking about right now, but if you were Maddie, granted
Speaker 2: you guys are very different people, if you were in her.
Speaker 1: Position, would you take him back.
Speaker 2: After everything went down and you saw it all play
Speaker 2: out on how I did, would you take him back?
Speaker 3: And you know, if you look back on the season,
Speaker 3: you see Peter's pattern of behavior being consistently and decisive.
Speaker 4: And confused, and I'd be running for the hills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I mean I would.
Speaker 3: I mean, even girl, even if he's saying he's loving
Speaker 3: you and all this stuff, I mean, look at his
Speaker 3: pattern of behavior. Yeah, the one consistency he has ever
Speaker 3: had is.
Speaker 4: Being confused, conflicted, and torn.
Speaker 1: His consistency is inconsistency.
Speaker 3: Yes, and if you want to ride that emotional rollercoaster
Speaker 3: with him, go for it.
Speaker 4: I just got off of it and it's a wild ride.
Speaker 2: Which Peter whoever, if things for whatever, Again, we don't
Speaker 2: know what the deal is with him in Madison at
Speaker 2: this point. If things don't work out, do you think
Speaker 2: he would come back to you? Because we saw it.
Speaker 2: He still isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was never
Speaker 2: over Madison.
Speaker 3: Honestly, you guys, I don't put anything past Peter whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: He's just like so all over the place.
Speaker 1: He's so low.
Speaker 5: You hinted it perfectly when you were like Peter, Hannon's
Speaker 5: like enough.
Speaker 1: Already, it's like a confused face any longer you had enough,
Speaker 1: And that's what it was, such a powerful moment.
Speaker 5: No, your words don't mean anything, they have no weight
Speaker 5: at this point.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see.
Speaker 5: Where you go from here, because again, you wan tonight,
Speaker 5: thank you, truly. The indecisiveness is not something that anybody
Speaker 5: wants to see their friend, daughter, sister, whatever go through
Speaker 5: and I think that watching this back, you're like, that's
Speaker 5: not the type of man that I thought Peter was,
Speaker 5: and that's not what I want to sign up for.
Speaker 5: And it's very troubling for us because I like Peter.
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I considered him a little brother. But
Speaker 5: when I look at what's happening now in his situation
Speaker 5: with Madison, it's something we've said from the beginning. The
Speaker 5: men like the idea of somebody, but not the reality,
Speaker 5: and they don't think about who works in real life,
Speaker 5: and they just get caught up in this fantasy. And
Speaker 5: once the bubble is burst, then it doesn't work. And
Speaker 5: I just don't know how this situation can work. The
Speaker 5: problem is is that when we talk to Bacht Nation,
Speaker 5: we're talking to a room full of hopeless romantics and
Speaker 5: they just see a love story and that's what they
Speaker 5: wish for, and they don't think logistically like how this
Speaker 5: can work and the reality of the situation. And I
Speaker 5: think that when we end this podcast and you move
Speaker 5: on and you go home, actually.
Speaker 1: I think it's so you move to la We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that in a second.
Speaker 5: But you know, when you leave here, you're going to
Speaker 5: see how people are going to rally behind you and
Speaker 5: how you were strong and you were an example, And
Speaker 5: mothers are going to say, that's what I want my
Speaker 5: daughter to be, and I want her to respond to
Speaker 5: men like that and know her self worth and not
Speaker 5: compromise who she is, which is the title they're giving Madison,
Speaker 5: which can I just say, is such a contradiction.
Speaker 1: We are crowning.
Speaker 5: Madison because she knows who she is and she doesn't
Speaker 5: want to compromise her values for somebody. But I'm sorry
Speaker 5: for her to go back to Peter. Is that not
Speaker 5: exactly what she just did?
Speaker 1: Oh, don't get me started. Anyways. Anyways, I'm going somewhere
Speaker 1: with this. People.
Speaker 5: I was saying, people are going to rally behind you
Speaker 5: for what you did, and they should. Then you're going
Speaker 5: to have the people who are fanatics and they're going
Speaker 5: to rally behind Madison and Peter as hopeless romantics.
Speaker 1: But then you're going to see a lot of hate also.
Speaker 5: And the villain, unfortunately and in my opinion, unnecessarily, has
Speaker 5: become Barb because as of what happened the first night
Speaker 5: of the finale, the first part and then into the
Speaker 5: second part. Do you agree with the online hate that
Speaker 5: Barb is getting and that she's going.
Speaker 1: To continue to get.
Speaker 3: I think that's completely you know, the online hate Barb's
Speaker 3: getting is completely unnecessary. I mean, take that hate somewhere else.
Speaker 3: She's looking after for her son, and no one needs
Speaker 3: to judge her for that ever.
Speaker 1: And everyone loves their babies.
Speaker 2: Everyone I think in that position would need a back
Speaker 2: off of her. Yeah, they would want the very best
Speaker 2: for their son or daughter, Annah Anne.
Speaker 1: As as Rachel said, you, I Anna.
Speaker 6: Rupted this program to let you know.
Speaker 5: I remember I said people are going to rally behind you. Okay,
Speaker 5: I guess I was a little too general, not people.
Speaker 5: Someone has said, quote I love Hannah Ann with four
Speaker 5: exclamation points, give it to us, Rach. Who's the one
Speaker 5: person you would want to hear from who's iconic.
Speaker 1: In this in this day and age? No, tell me,
Speaker 1: tell me starts the k.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say a Kardashian it is, Oh, what
Speaker 2: would you like to guess?
Speaker 1: Which? What is it? Chris? Is it the mall bear?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: Kylie Kim Kim Kim.
Speaker 5: Kardashian West said twenty one.
Speaker 6: Minutes ago, quote I love Hannah and exclamation I mean podcast, Okay,
Speaker 6: wasn't already winning. Damn, Kim Kardashian, West can Hannah and
Speaker 6: get some skims?
Speaker 1: So what what else are we saying? That's extra so
Speaker 1: I can get some to That's that's huge. Wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: that's huge. That's another. Don't even think the Queen herself.
Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian, Oh my god, Oh Christian is a huge
Speaker 3: fan of the show.
Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, they yeah, yeah, like Kylie, all of them.
Speaker 1: So listen. If another boss, I'm sorry we cursed on
Speaker 1: this podcast.
Speaker 5: If one boss, ass bitch going to tell you that
Speaker 5: you're a boss, you better wear the crown.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what are you want tonight? My goodness,
Speaker 1: I promise you this.
Speaker 2: You are gonna wake up tomorrow and first of all,
Speaker 2: your phone is gonna be blowing up, so maybe turn
Speaker 2: it off, take some time for yourself. But you are
Speaker 2: gonna look at headlines and your name is going to
Speaker 2: be splattered across so many of them in the best way.
Speaker 2: As Rachel said, people are gonna rally behind you. People
Speaker 2: are gonna want you to find so much love. You
Speaker 2: are gonna be infiltrated with so much support. When I
Speaker 2: say that, you think like what went down was the
Speaker 2: hardest moment in your life. It's gonna get so much better,
Speaker 2: and there's gonna be so many moments where you're gonna
Speaker 2: be blindsided in the best possible way, and your breath
Speaker 2: is gonna be taken away because you're gonna be like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this person gave me this, these kind words,
Speaker 2: and they want me to find love. They want me
Speaker 2: to find a partner. Like it's it's gonna be in
Speaker 2: the weirdest, most possible you can't even imagine, Like so
Speaker 2: many crazy, cool things have come. I mean from my breakup,
Speaker 2: which was.
Speaker 1: The weirdest moment in my life.
Speaker 2: But like your heart is going to be filled in
Speaker 2: ways that Peter could never have filled it.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah I love that, Yeah, I really do.
Speaker 1: But now we have to hear what is next in
Speaker 1: your life? Are you moving to La? Yeah?
Speaker 3: I actually moved this week, so like I was like,
Speaker 3: just buy me one a one way ticket and so
Speaker 3: I move in literally Thursday. Good. And you know, for me,
Speaker 3: I gotta keep it moving. You know, the situation is unfortunate,
Speaker 3: and you know, I gave myself a good couple of
Speaker 3: days and cried NonStop and then I'm like Okay.
Speaker 1: You know, Peter.
Speaker 3: Wasted you know, and I love you. He wasted an engagement,
Speaker 3: but he's not wasting anymore my tears.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta focus.
Speaker 2: You're going to be You're going to be an inspiration
Speaker 2: to so many girls out there and even for me,
Speaker 2: somebody who has been in a similar position. I looked
Speaker 2: up to you tonight and I really I rallied behind you,
Speaker 2: and I truly do want the best us for you,
Speaker 2: but to see how you handle that situation in that darkness.
Speaker 1: But everyone has been through a breakup.
Speaker 2: Everyone has felt that sadness and that darkness, and they
Speaker 2: felt like where do I turn to now? And they're
Speaker 2: going to look up to you and they will reach
Speaker 2: out to you, and so you are going to be
Speaker 2: a point of light for them and that's something really
Speaker 2: really special.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. Listen, you too definitely need to. I mean,
Speaker 1: you talk to you too. But I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: you guys share something that other people.
Speaker 5: And you see what it's because she's glowing like this
Speaker 5: is what you're glowing out to.
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like this could be you too.
Speaker 5: And I think also you said something about he took
Speaker 5: away this moment for you in this engagement.
Speaker 1: Don't look at it that way, because honestly, if you.
Speaker 3: Didn't take away myself, were he didn't take away yourself forth.
Speaker 5: But also he really didn't take this engagement away from you,
Speaker 5: because he never really gave himself to you in that moment.
Speaker 1: Think of it like that. He didn't take that away
Speaker 1: from you. You still have that, so hold on to that.
Speaker 5: I was so I mean, it was so so proud
Speaker 5: of you in that moment. Well, moving on, you got La,
Speaker 5: you got a new play. You know, you have this
Speaker 5: new platform.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have an agent.
Speaker 3: Hopefully soon, hopefully you do you not already have an
Speaker 3: agent like somebody else?
Speaker 5: Do you not already have an agent in the situation
Speaker 5: or waiting to talk about it.
Speaker 1: I'm so I don't.
Speaker 3: Get any such I don't have an ah right now.
Speaker 1: So it's not so not everybody comes off the Bachelor
Speaker 1: with an agent. No, we'll come back to that part
Speaker 1: in a second.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, and if anyone needs to know
Speaker 2: who Rachel is talking about, there's only two girls on
Speaker 2: stage tonight, and it's not handing.
Speaker 1: I don't have anyone right now.
Speaker 3: I'm just I was just trying to focus on getting
Speaker 3: through this past week. You know, I mean, I left
Speaker 3: that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces, and
Speaker 3: I've taken time to like rebuild myself, and you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm still rebuilding. I'm still, you know, feeling pain every day,
Speaker 3: but you know, I'm strong and just like A told Peter,
Speaker 3: I'm my own rock and I'll get through it while
Speaker 3: he's kicking rocks.
Speaker 1: So we're not here rocks. So we're not looking for love.
Speaker 1: You're just like all about loving yourself.
Speaker 4: I have not dated.
Speaker 3: I've just been surrounding myself with like friends and family
Speaker 3: that are consistent and that are true to their word
Speaker 3: and that are nice and uplifting. But hey, you know
Speaker 3: that's definitely in my future, hopefully with the right person,
Speaker 3: right the.
Speaker 2: Right guy, because now I'm kind of like this big
Speaker 2: sister mentality over you, and so it will be.
Speaker 3: Taking ship from any guys.
Speaker 1: Stronger, Like you're stronger than you think.
Speaker 5: You hear so much from this opportunity, Like we're so
Speaker 5: excited to see.
Speaker 1: Where you go from here. You're in La, the land
Speaker 1: of opportunity.
Speaker 2: But Anne, I do live in southern California now, so
Speaker 2: just know when I'm done with this bachelor, I want stage. Sure,
Speaker 2: I am taking you, invite Kelsey too, We're going out.
Speaker 1: I'm making you date me. Yeah. No, I would love
Speaker 1: that well.
Speaker 3: And it's crazy because like after our breakup, I thought
Speaker 3: about you every single day, every single day, and this
Speaker 3: is great. I tell you, you know, confidentiality and all
Speaker 3: about you, and I knew there would be the right.
Speaker 1: You really are bad. I'm gonna give you a number
Speaker 1: for this. We will chat and seriously every day.
Speaker 4: And you know, I wish I would have known her.
Speaker 2: I mean I kind of heard Inklians like in the
Speaker 2: past couple of days, but I really do wish I
Speaker 2: would have known.
Speaker 1: I would have d md you. I would have reached out.
Speaker 1: Oh my shit, I'm a little emotional.
Speaker 5: That was like, really, beauty, I'm just so glad you
Speaker 5: guys could have this moment. We'll listen, We're gonna let
Speaker 5: them have this moment. Off, Mike, We're gonna in this podcast.
Speaker 5: But I just have to say, and it is such
Speaker 5: a pleasure to get to talk to you.
Speaker 1: I say, like I said at the beginning, I was wrong.
Speaker 5: We started off the podcast talking about that, but it
Speaker 5: has really been a great thing to see you find
Speaker 5: your voice and to see you grow and to see
Speaker 5: where you go from here.
Speaker 1: So again you won the day you did.
Speaker 4: Thank you guys for having me well.
Speaker 2: Thank you for being here as I mean, I can
Speaker 2: ever top Rachel because she's just so good Withers.
Speaker 1: And you really you are a like to so many people.
Speaker 2: I really looked up to you tonight, even though I,
Speaker 2: you know, could be like you're much much older, sister.
Speaker 1: But thank you for being you.
Speaker 2: Thank you for seeing in your ground and showing girls
Speaker 2: out there what a strong voice can be.
Speaker 1: And I wish you all the best.
Speaker 2: I have no worries that you will be just fine
Speaker 2: in your future, but thank you.
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we were your.
Speaker 2: First podcast and we stole your podcast Virginity Yep, Paradise.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You don't have to ask.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the future holds, but it's.
Speaker 1: Gonna be better than what I've had, maybe better. It's
Speaker 1: not for bad short in like twenty twenty two. You
Speaker 1: had to wait a second, You wait a second, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, who knows, but it's gonna be better than what
Speaker 3: I've had, and that's what I hold on to.
Speaker 5: You no, that's right, all right, guys, thank you so
Speaker 5: much for tuning in to a faster Happy Hour. As
Speaker 5: you can see, we had such a great time just
Speaker 5: hanging out after the final rows talking to Hannah and
Speaker 5: she's just been so open and honest with us and
Speaker 5: giving us all the tea as well.
Speaker 1: She did not hold back. So thank you so much
Speaker 1: for being here with us.
Speaker 5: And like we said, we just can't wait to see
Speaker 5: what you have going on for you in the future.
Speaker 1: We're fans, huge fans.
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