1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,239 Speaker 1: Hey, Happy Hour listeners, I hope you enjoyed these throwback 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 1: very soon. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,800 Speaker 2: All right, back to our Happy Hour listeners. We still 5 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: have Hannah an here. Part two is dropping now, So 6 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 2: here is the rest of that conversation. 7 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: Let's dive in. 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: So after the engagement goes down, you know, you guys 9 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 2: are together for a few days. I'm assuming at that 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: point it was good. Obviously you knew he had probably 11 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: been struggling a little bit. But how you had how 12 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: many happy couple times to get which And for the 13 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: listeners who don't know happy couple, it's a weekend where 14 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 2: they fly the couple out to LA You stay in 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 2: a house for a few days to do a couple 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:50,239 Speaker 2: things and to get to know each other because you 17 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: can't be in public. 18 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: So how many of those weekends did you have together? 19 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 3: We had, I believe a total of three, including Australia. 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Okay, And when you guys are in those moments, I'm 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 2: assuming you were talking about the future and making plans 22 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 2: about what we. 23 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: Were looking into, you know, moving in together, looking at apartments. 24 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: I mean, we were serious and really it was just 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 3: when the season started, was when I started, you know, 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 3: to feel his hesitation, and that didn't sit. 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 4: Well with me. 28 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: But there again, he was giving me those words of affirmation. 29 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: To keep me there. 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 3: I'm not a dumb ass. I'm not just gonna stay 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: with someone, you know, just because of a commitment and 32 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 3: just because I want them. 33 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 4: No, he was giving me those words of affirmation. 34 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 3: That kept me there, that kept you know, that fueled me. 35 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 4: To be like, Okay, I'm going to fight for this. 36 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: You know, yes we're in an un you know, yes 37 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 3: we're in an abnormal circumstance, but you know what, I 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 3: made this commitment and I love you and I'm going 39 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: to fight for you. You know, That's where all that came from. 40 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 5: Did after the season started, did y'all have another happy 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: couple Couples weekend? Or was the first time y'all saw 42 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 5: each other after the season started when the breakup happened. 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 3: We had a happy couple the end of December and 44 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: in January, and then the last one was when we 45 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: broke up. And that was like a full month of 46 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: not seeing each other, which is a lot of why 47 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 3: he blamed how he was struggling and so walking into 48 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 3: that day. You know. I even have a voicemail from 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: him saying, you know, I love you, can't wait. 50 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 5: To see you. 51 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 3: And going into that day, you know, I knew it 52 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: was going to be a tough conversation and we both 53 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 3: even said we will move past this. We will you know, 54 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 3: overcome this as a couple. 55 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: You know. 56 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 5: And was that the first time y'all had the cameras 57 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: at the Happy Couple week? Yess so when you saw 58 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 5: the cameras, what did you think? 59 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: I knew something was up, but there again, you know, 60 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: through text messages and voicemails, I trusted his word, and 61 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 3: you know, obviously I'm happy. 62 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 4: How things ended. I mean, gosh, I was miserable with them. 63 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: I mean I was. 64 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 3: Miserable really once January started, or once once January started, 65 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: because the whole wishy washing has started, and I was 66 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: just like, I need someone who knows who they are, 67 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 3: who knows what they want, and who's not going to 68 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 3: be with someone just because their mom told him to. 69 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 2: How I remember meaning those moments, how bad was your 70 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 2: anxiety and that struggle because when you can't be with 71 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 2: your partner and your states away and you know someone's struggling, 72 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: and that was that was so hard, and you know, 73 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: I was probably the most anxious I've ever been, because 74 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 2: you want to make this relationship work, you want to 75 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: just be normal with your partner, and you can't. 76 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: And so how did you deal with that? 77 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 3: How I dealt with it was I was just focusing on, 78 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: you know, forward thinking, thinking of the big picture, thinking 79 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: of us ending this together, and the words he was 80 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: feeding me, you know, we will get through this together. 81 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 4: You know we will. You know, you're my fiance. 82 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: I love you. 83 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 4: You know you're the love of my life. 84 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,120 Speaker 3: That's what fed me, you know, to continue this forward 85 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 3: with him. 86 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: All of us would have fed into that. 87 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: I mean, he's my fiance, you know, this is a relationship, 88 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: he's my partner. I trust his words, and you know 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 3: I fell for it, and you know, showing up to 90 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: the breakup, I'm like, oh, these cameras. But we still 91 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: made that commitment that we were gonna, you know, work 92 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 3: through it. And you know, when he actually sat down 93 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: and told me more of half of the truth he's 94 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: been telling me, which she couldn't give me a full heart, 95 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm tapping out. 96 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 5: Sorry, I gotta go back to Hannah Brown, because you 97 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 5: brought it up at tonight and yeah, far so it's 98 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 5: odcause it's a huge far that bothered you. Yeah, And 99 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 5: then in talking about it tonight, I guess I still 100 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: feel like I don't understand. I know he said that 101 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 5: he reached out or wanted to talk to her for closure, 102 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 5: But how did y'all in that? Were you just like okay, yes, 103 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 5: talk to her? Did you ask again, hey, have you 104 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 5: talked to her? 105 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: Like what? 106 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: Okay? He said it to you? 107 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: But then what the reason why that was brought up 108 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 3: is because it wasn't just one woman involved that we 109 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 3: were having to discuss. It was you know, he proposed 110 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: to me still being in love with Madison and still 111 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 3: needing closure with Hannah Brown, completely blindsided to that there's 112 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: three women involved in this, and that was brought up 113 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:06,720 Speaker 3: because that was a huge part of our relationship with 114 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: him trying to convince me that he needed closure, and 115 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: then I should be understanding of that. 116 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 4: And I'm like, gosh, like. 117 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 5: But that's what I want to talk about, is him 118 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 5: trying to convince you? 119 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, like help us understand. 120 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 5: That, Like what I don't necessarily need to understand what 121 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 5: he was saying to you to convince you, But how 122 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 5: did that? Did he say, oh, I talked to her? 123 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 5: Or did you say okay, I give you my blessing? 124 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 5: Did you ever follow up and say have you talked 125 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 5: to her? 126 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: What happened? Are you good? 127 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 4: They on some level. 128 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: Had communicated, and he came to me saying, you know, 129 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: I need to speak with Hannah Brown because I need closure. 130 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, why do you need closure? 131 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: Like why you're engaged? 132 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 133 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, didn't you have that on 134 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 3: the show? I should we should probably watch this episode. 135 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 3: Once I watched the episode, I'm like, well, where do 136 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 3: your feelings stand? He's like, well, we're engaged, but I 137 00:05:57,960 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 3: you know, we both just need me and hand around 138 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 3: both dieclosure And I'm just like, okay, well can I. 139 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 4: Is this in person? Is this on and off camera? 140 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: No? 141 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 4: Off camera? 142 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, I kind of feel uncomfortable after watching 143 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 3: that last episode and now you're saying any closure. 144 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 4: That kind of doesn't really sit well with me. 145 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: We're engaged, like, we're not just dating, we're engaged. See 146 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: what happened? How did it end? 147 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 3: It ended in him saying that he needed it, and 148 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: then I needed to support him, and I'm just like 149 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 3: I don't know how I quite feel about that. And 150 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 3: then shortly after that that was where the whole we 151 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 3: were shifted to our other issue of him feeling like 152 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 3: he had unresolved issues in regards. 153 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 4: To watching the show. So there was so many issues 154 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 4: going on. 155 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: I'm just I was miserable. 156 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm just like. 157 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: Trying to figure out who can I talk to? Who 158 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 3: can I like figure out like am I just being. 159 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: Am I being too sensitive? 160 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 3: Or am I you know, not being treated how I deserve? 161 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 5: No? 162 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Okay, coming in with somebody who has been in your issues. 163 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: There are so many. 164 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: Weird factors to starting out this sort of relationship where 165 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 2: you don't know where to turn and to add in 166 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: all these added things. Handah Brown shouldn't have even been 167 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: an issue at that point that you. 168 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 3: It shouldn't have been an argument at that point. And 169 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 3: as this is like the season's going on, like how 170 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: about checking up on how I'm doing, how I'm feeling? 171 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: And then you're just having all these issues. You know, 172 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: seeing Madison in your first day, seeing Hannah Brown, now 173 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 3: you need to talk to her. 174 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: It's like Calley like, do you think he part rock? 175 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: Do you think part of him still loved Hannah Brown 176 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: and in that moment. 177 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he had unresolved in. 178 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: Back then or still in January. 179 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: I think still in January when he was with you. Yeah, 180 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: and that was the argument. 181 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: And did you say that he was in love with her? 182 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 3: Okay, he just said he needed to talk with her. 183 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: And I'm just like, what, like we're engaged, Like I thought, yeah, 184 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 4: that we've moved. I thought you've moved past all of that. 185 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: Like I've been completely blindsided, Like here I am, I 186 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: don't need to be contacting two x's about have enclosure, 187 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 3: like I'm here, I'm ready for you, and like although 188 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 3: I wasn't able to see the whole season, like the 189 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: audience is now, like I was blindsided to any. 190 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: Of this well, And you should have been his number 191 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: one priority. 192 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: That's where his heart and his worry and his attention. 193 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: Should have lied. Is that the right should have lied, 194 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: should like whatever you. 195 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 2: Know grammar here, but but you should have been the 196 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 2: number one priority in his life. 197 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: And it seems like multiple things were taken that away. 198 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: And I feel for you because I get that, and 199 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: it's such a shitty feeling. And where you say you 200 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: wanted to be that sports system you wanted to get 201 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: through together, and like you, as a woman in his position, 202 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 2: it's like you still hurt and you still struggle, but 203 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 2: you don't know who to talk to because you can't 204 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 2: talk to most people about it, and if he's struggling, 205 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: you can't talk to him constantly about it because he's 206 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 2: trying to work through his own shit. 207 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: And so who did you talk to? Who did you 208 00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: lean on? Really? 209 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: Is you know what I didn't even tell I did 210 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: not even tell my parents until after our breakup because 211 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 3: I knew deep down my parents would have said get 212 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 3: out and run, run for the hills, dodge that bullet. 213 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 4: So no one really, I mean, I was trying to, you. 214 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: Know, for me, I made that commitment to him, and 215 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: I thought we were going to be teammates, like this 216 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: is what we work through together. This shouldn't divide us, 217 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 3: this should make us stronger. And that was kind of 218 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: what I always tried to do. And you know, in 219 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 3: a breakup, I said, you know, this has to. 220 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 4: Be fifty to fifty. And I haven't been feeling that. 221 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: You made a comment during that breakup and I loved 222 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 2: it because it's stuck with me. You said, I am 223 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,559 Speaker 2: my own rock, and in that moment, I was sitting 224 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: there like, yes, girl, Like, if you're not getting what 225 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: you need in this relationship and he can't promise all 226 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: the things he has told you, you have to be 227 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: your own rock. 228 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: And so yeah, good for you. 229 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,959 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure that it came as a blindside 230 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: and probably one of the hardest breakups because it's not 231 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 2: easy when you know millions of people are watching. 232 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: But you. 233 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: Seem like you still have that strength, and so kudos 234 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 2: to you like that. 235 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 1: I'm very proud of you and I and I. 236 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 2: Will say this like we still have much to talk about, 237 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: but I will say this is going to be one 238 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: of the hardest moments in your life, but you will 239 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 2: be just fine in the future and have all the 240 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 2: faith that you will like you, this will only make 241 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: you stronger and realize what you truly deserve in a relationship. 242 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you already have. You know, we said 243 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 5: it at the top of the podcast, you want tonight, 244 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 5: and not just because you saw what kind of unraveled 245 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 5: after you were on stage, but just because maybe you 246 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 5: had your voice before, but we saw you find your 247 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 5: voice and you were very matter of fact and you 248 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 5: were very It was like you knew exactly what you 249 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 5: needed to say and what he needed to hear, and 250 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 5: he literally couldn't respond to it. He couldn't defend himself 251 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 5: because it was kind of like you're right, you're right, 252 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:57,960 Speaker 5: and you stood up to him and said, you took 253 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 5: these moments away from me that I can't it back. 254 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm going to be okay because 255 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 1: I'm going to get myself through it. 256 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, that's really what matters, 257 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 5: Like you can't depend on somebody else. 258 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,959 Speaker 1: You realize, like in those. 259 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 5: Moments, you realize you're stronger than you think. So, like, 260 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 5: kudos to you, I give you a standing ovation. If 261 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 5: we were on TV right now, But I think America 262 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 5: is going to see how you responded. They already are 263 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 5: right Like, I'm sure you're trending on Twitter as we speak. 264 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: Oh, people are probably then mowing you money to buy 265 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: your own drinks right now. I'm going to after this podcast, 266 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: treat yourself, take yourself a bottle of champagne because you 267 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: deserve it. 268 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, call Kelsey. I'm sure she's getting like 269 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 5: a plus throat champagne like. 270 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 6: You. 271 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 4: I think me and Kelsey, need to go out for 272 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 4: some champagne later. 273 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: Girls, you do, and myself. 274 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 5: I do have a question though, because you did see 275 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 5: tonight like you had one moment and then it was 276 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 5: like it was like that was one half and then 277 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 5: the second half was kind of what happened after. And 278 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure you saw how supportive Barb is of you, 279 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 5: whether you watched it last night or you saw tonight, 280 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 5: how she was clapping every single time you were missing. 281 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 5: She mentioned she was clapping every time you responded to Peter, 282 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 5: like against her old song. 283 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 1: She was claping for you, and she was eyeing him down. 284 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: She was giving Peter, And. 285 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh, I think people want to know 286 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: the love that she has for you, and the love 287 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 3: that she has for you is because you love her 288 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: son or loved her son unconditionally, and that's all a 289 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 3: mother really wants to see. 290 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,319 Speaker 5: And I get they're not in the relationship and that's 291 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 5: a whole and you know, you and Peter have your 292 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: own relationship outside of that, but that's what a mother 293 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 5: wants for her child and she saw that in you. 294 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Have you talked to Barb since then? 295 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 4: Talk to Barb? 296 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 5: And by that I mean I'm talking dms, I'm talking comments, 297 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 5: I'm talking texts. 298 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: Barb after a breakup, she definitely reached out a couple 299 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 3: of times I ended up. 300 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:13,839 Speaker 4: You know, I love Barb. 301 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: I do too. 302 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 3: I honestly I could break down crying just thinking about 303 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 3: her right now because I miss her so much. But 304 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 3: I knew that forgiveness is only way forward, and I 305 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 3: needed to work on leading up to this day, to 306 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 3: forgive Peter and to move forward. And doing that is 307 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: you know, isolating myself from anyone close to him. And 308 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: I can't, you know, continue to talk to Barb every day, 309 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: you know, if I'm trying to move forward from Peter. 310 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 3: And you know, that's been also a heartbreak, you know, 311 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: not being able to you know, be a part of 312 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 3: Barb in her life. I mean that's also a heartbreak 313 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: and a breakup in its own self. And you know, Barb, 314 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 3: she's a really special person, and she's just looking out 315 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 3: for her son. She just wants someone to love her 316 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 3: son and you know, to root for his own happiness 317 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: and to you know, be in a relationship with them 318 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 3: for the right reasons. 319 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 5: I love to hear you say that, because she's getting 320 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 5: such a bad rap because of like I understood where 321 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:10,479 Speaker 5: her heart. 322 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: Was and what she was saying. Maybe she went just 323 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: a little too funny, but I know she was coming 324 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: from a good place. 325 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 5: And people are so crazed over Madison that nobody is 326 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 5: listening to what she's actually saying. So it's very nice 327 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 5: to hear you give a different side, in the softer 328 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 5: side of her. Becca and I've both talked to Barb 329 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 5: as well. We adore her, and it's just a shame 330 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 5: kind of what I knew tonight. She was being very 331 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 5: defensive because of the hate that she's receiving online, and 332 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 5: she's just trying to tell her side of it, and 333 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 5: it's just not being received at all. 334 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: I mean quite honestly. 335 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean this has come from an ex fiance of Peters, 336 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 3: but I mean, you know, Peter deserves the world and 337 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: deserves someone that will love him with their whole heart 338 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: and be there for their reasons. And that's where me 339 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: and Barb, you know, connect. 340 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna ask you, do you think that that's Madison. 341 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: I don't know her horror, I don't know. 342 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if I guess I never really knew 343 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: if she loved him or not. I mean she walked 344 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 3: away from him. But for me, I loved Peter and 345 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 3: I was never going to leave his side, even through 346 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: the worst. And I think that's what Barb's all in me, 347 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: and that's what she you know, That's what any mother 348 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 3: wants for their son, is someone to be with them 349 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 3: that's gonna unconditionally love them. 350 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: I want to know now since because tonight was the 351 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 2: first time you saw Peter and his family since the 352 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: end of jail or. 353 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 3: Oh, I can barely look over at his family. 354 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: I knew how I looked at her rest family. I 355 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: was just gonna start crying. 356 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: But how was in that moment sitting next to him, 357 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: did you still have those feelings of some sort of 358 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: lingering love or are you now to the point I 359 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: guess I want to know where you're at, Like, are 360 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 2: you at the point where you're like you the best? 361 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, as much as it sucked, thank you for 362 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: doing what you were doing. 363 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I'll always have you know a special place 364 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 3: for him. But I mean he's betrayed me, misled me, 365 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: and that alone has and watching back the season, that 366 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: really resolved a lot of like extra feelings I had 367 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 3: for him. I mean just I'm watching a play by 368 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 3: play of me getting deceived, and that alone it was, 369 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 3: you know, a slap in the face and it's helped 370 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 3: me move forward. But you know, to be honest, when 371 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 3: I looked over at his family, yeah, I did, you know, want. 372 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: To start to cry and just you know, I felt. 373 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: Like, you know, me and Peter just had this awesome 374 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 3: situation and it was like just stripped away from me 375 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: so quickly. 376 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 4: You know, it was a future that I. 377 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: Lost, but more importantly, it was the loss of a 378 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 3: person I thought he was. And I think that's what 379 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: I'm grieving over, is the person I thought he was, 380 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 3: you know, telling me to trust him, and the words 381 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 3: he you know, gave me that I trusted. 382 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 4: In were completely. 383 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 3: I don't know if you want to call it lies 384 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 3: or if you just want to call it shallow. 385 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: That we all thought. 386 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's it's been very difficult. 387 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: I can only imagine. 388 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: And I think that that's what's so therapeutic for Becca 389 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 5: to be here in this podcast and to talk to you, 390 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 5: because she knows exactly what it is that you're going through. 391 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 5: You know, I'm a viewer. I only watch it, and 392 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 5: I can only empathize with you. It's just it's troubling 393 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 5: because we talked to Peter before the season or while 394 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 5: he was still filming, and then right when the season started, 395 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 5: and I remember we were saying that more than anything 396 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 5: for him, we wanted him to find love because we 397 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 5: know how badly he wanted and we know that he 398 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 5: wanted someone to love him unconditionally. 399 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 1: That's what he said, That's what he told us. 400 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 5: And he had it, and then he let it go, 401 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 5: like and then he still doesn't have it. 402 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 1: Let's just be honest. I saw what I saw. 403 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 5: What I saw tonight, he still doesn't have He said it, 404 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 5: you loved him in a way that he has never 405 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 5: been loved before. Well, I would assume that that means 406 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 5: the present. Did he not say that tonight. 407 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: Before? 408 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 5: Literally I don't know what he is with Madison because 409 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 5: we still didn't get, you know, like a definitive answer 410 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 5: that basically, he was still saying, you loved him in 411 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 5: a way that she didn't and that's what you wanted 412 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 5: and you had it, and then you still chase something, 413 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 5: which don't get me started on how I think that's 414 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 5: the issue with man and that's why the Bachelors are 415 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 5: not successful because they're always chasing something that they can 416 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 5: never get. And that's why we only have only had 417 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 5: two that are married at this point. 418 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: And the. 419 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: First one, well, I don't I don't play Yes. 420 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 2: Of course, I'm still like rare beautiful find. 421 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 4: I don't play the whole chasing game. 422 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: I mean, I understand you can't, you know, give to 423 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,920 Speaker 3: man everything they want. But also at the same time, 424 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: I don't play games either like you or I don't 425 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: you know what I say to you, I mean, I'm 426 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: very clear, I'm concise, and I expect that in return. 427 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 4: That's my standards exactly. 428 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: Just be honest with me. 429 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest with you back you. 430 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: Guys, girls on this show all they want is honestly. 431 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: Why have they not honest? They don't drag me along. 432 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 5: And that's what's so troubling about what happened this season is, Peter, 433 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: you came from a season where the lead all she 434 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 5: wanted was to be loved and loved unconditionally. 435 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: And excuse me, it's not. 436 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:45,479 Speaker 2: Just King. 437 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: You came. 438 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 5: Peter came from a season where there was a lead 439 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 5: who was saying, I just want to be loved and 440 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 5: I want someone to give that to me unconditionally, and 441 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 5: Peter gave that to her. 442 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: And then she chose Jed, which I can just put 443 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: a period there. We all know what came with that. 444 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 5: And I would think that going through that hurt, that 445 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 5: you'd come into your season saying I want to make 446 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,440 Speaker 5: sure that I don't make that same mistake. 447 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:10,880 Speaker 1: And here you are. 448 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 5: It is sucks to be in a place of wondering, 449 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: and here he is in a place where now it's 450 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 5: like unknown, you don't know you're wondering, and with you, 451 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 5: he didn't have that. And what also message makes me 452 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 5: so upset is when we talked to him, he said, 453 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 5: remember this becap, you know who did you first? 454 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: Two things? 455 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 5: Who did you pick? Because he was still with you 456 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 5: at this point. Yeah, And I think we were like, 457 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 5: who did you pick you? Like I'm trying to tell you, 458 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: I can't tell you. Then he said we might have 459 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 5: said did you always know? We talked about like our 460 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 5: own situations, and he said he has known since week 461 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 5: four who his person was. 462 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Well, he was with. 463 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 5: You, Yeah, like the season I don't even think an 464 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 5: when we filmed it, an episode had not aired yet, 465 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 5: so he was talking about you. 466 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: So you have known from week four. 467 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 5: There are nine ten weeks of filming, So for what 468 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 5: do the math six weeks you knew exactly who it 469 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 5: was that you were going to pick, Yet you still 470 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 5: went back in time and you watched it and you 471 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,399 Speaker 5: put yourself like It's like, Becka and I can talk 472 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 5: about this. It's the classic thing of a lead. You 473 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 5: you watch it, but you never go back and put 474 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 5: your yourself in it because months have passed since you 475 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 5: felt those same emotions. 476 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: It's insane, Yeah, it's and. 477 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 2: It's a weird thing when you watch it back when 478 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: you're going on certain dates with certain people. Sometimes it's 479 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: easy to like feel the feelings you felt in that moment, 480 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 2: like yes, but be smarter, like realize that was months ago. 481 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: You came to this decision and these choices for a 482 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 2: certain reason. 483 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: And for him, I hoped that in. 484 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: The moment he saw like how different him and Maddie were, Like, ye, 485 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 2: you were everything he was saying he wanted. And so 486 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: that's where I think it's harder for the men to 487 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: separate themselves and to realize, oh, that was so long ago, 488 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 2: and I can't like I and this is one thing 489 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: that already kept saying to that. I'm not sure if 490 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: Peter said, but he wanted to what was the phrase 491 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: he used. He wanted to like feel out all of 492 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 2: the relationships till the very end, to go through everything 493 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 2: to get to that point where he knew who who 494 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 2: it was or what his decision would be. And it's 495 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: like they watched this back and they had this skewed 496 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 2: timeline in their minds and they think that it's really 497 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 2: happening when in reality, like, no, this happened three months ago. 498 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 2: And my question is, and this is what I want 499 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 2: to ask you. This is not related to what I'm 500 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: talking about right now, but if you were Maddie, granted 501 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 2: you guys are very different people, if you were in her. 502 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: Position, would you take him back. 503 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 2: After everything went down and you saw it all play 504 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: out on how I did, would you take him back? 505 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,199 Speaker 3: And you know, if you look back on the season, 506 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 3: you see Peter's pattern of behavior being consistently and decisive. 507 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 4: And confused, and I'd be running for the hills. 508 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I mean I would. 509 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 3: I mean, even girl, even if he's saying he's loving 510 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 3: you and all this stuff, I mean, look at his 511 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 3: pattern of behavior. Yeah, the one consistency he has ever 512 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 3: had is. 513 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 4: Being confused, conflicted, and torn. 514 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: His consistency is inconsistency. 515 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 3: Yes, and if you want to ride that emotional rollercoaster 516 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 3: with him, go for it. 517 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 4: I just got off of it and it's a wild ride. 518 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: Which Peter whoever, if things for whatever, Again, we don't 519 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 2: know what the deal is with him in Madison at 520 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 2: this point. If things don't work out, do you think 521 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 2: he would come back to you? Because we saw it. 522 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: He still isn't clearly over Hannah Brown. He was never 523 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: over Madison. 524 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,880 Speaker 3: Honestly, you guys, I don't put anything past Peter whatever. 525 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 1: I don't. 526 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 4: He's just like so all over the place. 527 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: He's so low. 528 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 5: You hinted it perfectly when you were like Peter, Hannon's 529 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 5: like enough. 530 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: Already, it's like a confused face any longer you had enough, 531 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: And that's what it was, such a powerful moment. 532 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 5: No, your words don't mean anything, they have no weight 533 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 5: at this point. 534 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be interesting to see. 535 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 5: Where you go from here, because again, you wan tonight, 536 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 5: thank you, truly. The indecisiveness is not something that anybody 537 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 5: wants to see their friend, daughter, sister, whatever go through 538 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 5: and I think that watching this back, you're like, that's 539 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 5: not the type of man that I thought Peter was, 540 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 5: and that's not what I want to sign up for. 541 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 5: And it's very troubling for us because I like Peter. 542 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 5: I think, yeah, I considered him a little brother. But 543 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 5: when I look at what's happening now in his situation 544 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 5: with Madison, it's something we've said from the beginning. The 545 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 5: men like the idea of somebody, but not the reality, 546 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 5: and they don't think about who works in real life, 547 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 5: and they just get caught up in this fantasy. And 548 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 5: once the bubble is burst, then it doesn't work. And 549 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 5: I just don't know how this situation can work. The 550 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 5: problem is is that when we talk to Bacht Nation, 551 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 5: we're talking to a room full of hopeless romantics and 552 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 5: they just see a love story and that's what they 553 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 5: wish for, and they don't think logistically like how this 554 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,919 Speaker 5: can work and the reality of the situation. And I 555 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 5: think that when we end this podcast and you move 556 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 5: on and you go home, actually. 557 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: I think it's so you move to la We'll talk 558 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: about that in a second. 559 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 5: But you know, when you leave here, you're going to 560 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 5: see how people are going to rally behind you and 561 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 5: how you were strong and you were an example, And 562 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 5: mothers are going to say, that's what I want my 563 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 5: daughter to be, and I want her to respond to 564 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 5: men like that and know her self worth and not 565 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: compromise who she is, which is the title they're giving Madison, 566 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 5: which can I just say, is such a contradiction. 567 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: We are crowning. 568 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 5: Madison because she knows who she is and she doesn't 569 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: want to compromise her values for somebody. But I'm sorry 570 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 5: for her to go back to Peter. Is that not 571 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 5: exactly what she just did? 572 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: Oh, don't get me started. Anyways. Anyways, I'm going somewhere 573 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 1: with this. People. 574 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 5: I was saying, people are going to rally behind you 575 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 5: for what you did, and they should. Then you're going 576 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 5: to have the people who are fanatics and they're going 577 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 5: to rally behind Madison and Peter as hopeless romantics. 578 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 1: But then you're going to see a lot of hate also. 579 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 5: And the villain, unfortunately and in my opinion, unnecessarily, has 580 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 5: become Barb because as of what happened the first night 581 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 5: of the finale, the first part and then into the 582 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 5: second part. Do you agree with the online hate that 583 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,880 Speaker 5: Barb is getting and that she's going. 584 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: To continue to get. 585 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: I think that's completely you know, the online hate Barb's 586 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 3: getting is completely unnecessary. I mean, take that hate somewhere else. 587 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,640 Speaker 3: She's looking after for her son, and no one needs 588 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: to judge her for that ever. 589 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: And everyone loves their babies. 590 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 2: Everyone I think in that position would need a back 591 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,880 Speaker 2: off of her. Yeah, they would want the very best 592 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: for their son or daughter, Annah Anne. 593 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: As as Rachel said, you, I Anna. 594 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 6: Rupted this program to let you know. 595 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 5: I remember I said people are going to rally behind you. Okay, 596 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 5: I guess I was a little too general, not people. 597 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 5: Someone has said, quote I love Hannah Ann with four 598 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 5: exclamation points, give it to us, Rach. Who's the one 599 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 5: person you would want to hear from who's iconic. 600 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: In this in this day and age? No, tell me, 601 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: tell me starts the k. 602 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna say a Kardashian it is, Oh, what 603 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 2: would you like to guess? 604 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Which? What is it? Chris? Is it the mall bear? 605 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: No? 606 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 1: Kylie Kim Kim Kim. 607 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 5: Kardashian West said twenty one. 608 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:27,480 Speaker 6: Minutes ago, quote I love Hannah and exclamation I mean podcast, Okay, 609 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 6: wasn't already winning. Damn, Kim Kardashian, West can Hannah and 610 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 6: get some skims? 611 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: So what what else are we saying? That's extra so 612 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: I can get some to That's that's huge. Wow, Wow, 613 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 1: that's huge. That's another. Don't even think the Queen herself. 614 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 3: Kim Kardashian, Oh my god, Oh Christian is a huge 615 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: fan of the show. 616 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: Oh really yeah, they yeah, yeah, like Kylie, all of them. 617 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: So listen. If another boss, I'm sorry we cursed on 618 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: this podcast. 619 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,199 Speaker 5: If one boss, ass bitch going to tell you that 620 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 5: you're a boss, you better wear the crown. 621 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: Oh my god, what are you want tonight? My goodness, 622 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: I promise you this. 623 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: You are gonna wake up tomorrow and first of all, 624 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 2: your phone is gonna be blowing up, so maybe turn 625 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 2: it off, take some time for yourself. But you are 626 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 2: gonna look at headlines and your name is going to 627 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 2: be splattered across so many of them in the best way. 628 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 2: As Rachel said, people are gonna rally behind you. People 629 00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: are gonna want you to find so much love. You 630 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: are gonna be infiltrated with so much support. When I 631 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 2: say that, you think like what went down was the 632 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: hardest moment in your life. It's gonna get so much better, 633 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: and there's gonna be so many moments where you're gonna 634 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 2: be blindsided in the best possible way, and your breath 635 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 2: is gonna be taken away because you're gonna be like, 636 00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, this person gave me this, these kind words, 637 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: and they want me to find love. They want me 638 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 2: to find a partner. Like it's it's gonna be in 639 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: the weirdest, most possible you can't even imagine, Like so 640 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: many crazy, cool things have come. I mean from my breakup, 641 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: which was. 642 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: The weirdest moment in my life. 643 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 2: But like your heart is going to be filled in 644 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,239 Speaker 2: ways that Peter could never have filled it. 645 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you that. 646 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 3: Yeah I love that, Yeah, I really do. 647 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: But now we have to hear what is next in 648 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: your life? Are you moving to La? Yeah? 649 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 3: I actually moved this week, so like I was like, 650 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 3: just buy me one a one way ticket and so 651 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 3: I move in literally Thursday. Good. And you know, for me, 652 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 3: I gotta keep it moving. You know, the situation is unfortunate, 653 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 3: and you know, I gave myself a good couple of 654 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 3: days and cried NonStop and then I'm like Okay. 655 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,240 Speaker 1: You know, Peter. 656 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: Wasted you know, and I love you. He wasted an engagement, 657 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 3: but he's not wasting anymore my tears. 658 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I gotta focus. 659 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: You're going to be You're going to be an inspiration 660 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: to so many girls out there and even for me, 661 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 2: somebody who has been in a similar position. I looked 662 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 2: up to you tonight and I really I rallied behind you, 663 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,479 Speaker 2: and I truly do want the best us for you, 664 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: but to see how you handle that situation in that darkness. 665 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: But everyone has been through a breakup. 666 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: Everyone has felt that sadness and that darkness, and they 667 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: felt like where do I turn to now? And they're 668 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 2: going to look up to you and they will reach 669 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: out to you, and so you are going to be 670 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,240 Speaker 2: a point of light for them and that's something really 671 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: really special. 672 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: Oh thank you. Listen, you too definitely need to. I mean, 673 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 1: you talk to you too. But I'm just saying, like, 674 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: you guys share something that other people. 675 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 5: And you see what it's because she's glowing like this 676 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 5: is what you're glowing out to. 677 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying like this could be you too. 678 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 5: And I think also you said something about he took 679 00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 5: away this moment for you in this engagement. 680 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: Don't look at it that way, because honestly, if you. 681 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 3: Didn't take away myself, were he didn't take away yourself forth. 682 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 5: But also he really didn't take this engagement away from you, 683 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 5: because he never really gave himself to you in that moment. 684 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: Think of it like that. He didn't take that away 685 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: from you. You still have that, so hold on to that. 686 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 5: I was so I mean, it was so so proud 687 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 5: of you in that moment. Well, moving on, you got La, 688 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 5: you got a new play. You know, you have this 689 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: new platform. 690 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, you have an agent. 691 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 3: Hopefully soon, hopefully you do you not already have an 692 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 3: agent like somebody else? 693 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 5: Do you not already have an agent in the situation 694 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 5: or waiting to talk about it. 695 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm so I don't. 696 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 3: Get any such I don't have an ah right now. 697 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: So it's not so not everybody comes off the Bachelor 698 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 1: with an agent. No, we'll come back to that part 699 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: in a second. 700 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: I was gonna say, and if anyone needs to know 701 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 2: who Rachel is talking about, there's only two girls on 702 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 2: stage tonight, and it's not handing. 703 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: I don't have anyone right now. 704 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: I'm just I was just trying to focus on getting 705 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 3: through this past week. You know, I mean, I left 706 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 3: that breakup feeling like a bunch of broken pieces, and 707 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: I've taken time to like rebuild myself, and you know what, 708 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 3: I'm still rebuilding. I'm still, you know, feeling pain every day, 709 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 3: but you know, I'm strong and just like A told Peter, 710 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 3: I'm my own rock and I'll get through it while 711 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 3: he's kicking rocks. 712 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: So we're not here rocks. So we're not looking for love. 713 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: You're just like all about loving yourself. 714 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 4: I have not dated. 715 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 3: I've just been surrounding myself with like friends and family 716 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: that are consistent and that are true to their word 717 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 3: and that are nice and uplifting. But hey, you know 718 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 3: that's definitely in my future, hopefully with the right person, 719 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 3: right the. 720 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 2: Right guy, because now I'm kind of like this big 721 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 2: sister mentality over you, and so it will be. 722 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: Taking ship from any guys. 723 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: Stronger, Like you're stronger than you think. 724 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 5: You hear so much from this opportunity, Like we're so 725 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 5: excited to see. 726 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: Where you go from here. You're in La, the land 727 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: of opportunity. 728 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 2: But Anne, I do live in southern California now, so 729 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,480 Speaker 2: just know when I'm done with this bachelor, I want stage. Sure, 730 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 2: I am taking you, invite Kelsey too, We're going out. 731 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm making you date me. Yeah. No, I would love 732 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: that well. 733 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 3: And it's crazy because like after our breakup, I thought 734 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 3: about you every single day, every single day, and this 735 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: is great. I tell you, you know, confidentiality and all 736 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: about you, and I knew there would be the right. 737 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: You really are bad. I'm gonna give you a number 738 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: for this. We will chat and seriously every day. 739 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 4: And you know, I wish I would have known her. 740 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 2: I mean I kind of heard Inklians like in the 741 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: past couple of days, but I really do wish I 742 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 2: would have known. 743 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 1: I would have d md you. I would have reached out. 744 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,200 Speaker 1: Oh my shit, I'm a little emotional. 745 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 5: That was like, really, beauty, I'm just so glad you 746 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 5: guys could have this moment. We'll listen, We're gonna let 747 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 5: them have this moment. Off, Mike, We're gonna in this podcast. 748 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 5: But I just have to say, and it is such 749 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 5: a pleasure to get to talk to you. 750 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: I say, like I said at the beginning, I was wrong. 751 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 5: We started off the podcast talking about that, but it 752 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,280 Speaker 5: has really been a great thing to see you find 753 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 5: your voice and to see you grow and to see 754 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 5: where you go from here. 755 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: So again you won the day you did. 756 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 4: Thank you guys for having me well. 757 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 2: Thank you for being here as I mean, I can 758 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 2: ever top Rachel because she's just so good Withers. 759 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: And you really you are a like to so many people. 760 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 2: I really looked up to you tonight, even though I, 761 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, could be like you're much much older, sister. 762 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: But thank you for being you. 763 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 2: Thank you for seeing in your ground and showing girls 764 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: out there what a strong voice can be. 765 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,479 Speaker 1: And I wish you all the best. 766 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: I have no worries that you will be just fine 767 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 2: in your future, but thank you. 768 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm glad that we were your. 769 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 2: First podcast and we stole your podcast Virginity Yep, Paradise. 770 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I don't know. 771 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: You don't have to ask. 772 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what the future holds, but it's. 773 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: Gonna be better than what I've had, maybe better. It's 774 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: not for bad short in like twenty twenty two. You 775 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: had to wait a second, You wait a second, I. 776 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: Mean, who knows, but it's gonna be better than what 777 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 3: I've had, and that's what I hold on to. 778 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 5: You no, that's right, all right, guys, thank you so 779 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 5: much for tuning in to a faster Happy Hour. As 780 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,680 Speaker 5: you can see, we had such a great time just 781 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 5: hanging out after the final rows talking to Hannah and 782 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 5: she's just been so open and honest with us and 783 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 5: giving us all the tea as well. 784 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: She did not hold back. So thank you so much 785 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: for being here with us. 786 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 5: And like we said, we just can't wait to see 787 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 5: what you have going on for you in the future. 788 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: We're fans, huge fans. 789 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,800 Speaker 2: Yes, thank you hand in hand, and thank you Bachelor 790 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 2: Happy Hour for listening in. Don't forget we always love 791 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 2: to hear from you all of the comments, questions, concerns, 792 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 2: and praises. You can always email us at happy Hour 793 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 2: at bachination dot com. 794 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 5: And don't forget to subscribe to our podcast, Bachelor Happy Hour. 795 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 5: You can subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you're 796 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: listening to this right now. Also, bachination dot com is 797 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 5: the place where you can get all the latest and 798 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 5: greatest details about the show. 799 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: It is the first 800 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 5: Place announcing what's coming up with bachs Nation, so make 801 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 5: sure you check it out.