1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: God bless Erica Kirk. Welcome into turning Point tonight. We're together. 2 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: We are charting the course of America's cultural comeback, just 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: as Charlie would have wanted. We are continuing the fight 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: to save this country. There's so much to get to 5 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: from the memorial yesterday, and will play you a bunch 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: of clips, but what I think of the highlights of 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: the memorial more broadly, But first and most specifically, I'm 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: going to play you a clip from Erica's speech last night. 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: That was the most important, bar nune segment of the 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: entire affair. I know it was long. I know there 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 1: was a lot of prominent speakers saying very important things, 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: but the entire event, the entire everything that Charlie stood for, 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: hinged on this clip. 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: It is long. 15 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: I told our producer I wanted to leave the entirety 16 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: of the applause in there. 17 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:58,639 Speaker 2: But I think it's worth it. 18 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:04,039 Speaker 1: Watch this from Erica, my husband, Charlie. 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: He wanted to save young men, just like the one 20 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 3: who took his life, that young man, that young. 21 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 4: Man on the cross. 22 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: Our Savior said, Father, forgive them, for they not know 23 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: what they do. 24 00:01:52,360 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: That man, that young man, I forgive him. 25 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 6: I forgive him because it was what Christ did and 26 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 6: is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is 27 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 6: not hate. The answer we know from the Gospel is 28 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 6: love and always love, love for our enemies, and love 29 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 6: for those who persecute us. 30 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: I think part of the reason why I wanted to 31 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: have that whole clip is to give myself a chance 32 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: to recover, because myself and producer Clutter getting a little 33 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: misty eyed here watching that. You know, the day after 34 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: Charlie was assassinated, I had a difficult kind of position 35 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: and difficult take on things. And I'm not at all 36 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: trying to make this about myself. I just wanted to 37 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: let you in on kind of the process going through 38 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the head. Going through my head. Came out almost immediately 39 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: and said, we were a godless The problem is godlessness. 40 00:03:56,200 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: That is what our main problem is. And in addition 41 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: to that, part of this equation is forgiveness. 42 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 2: And I'll be honest with you. 43 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: We recorded that segment and I called a couple different 44 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: people in the turning point bubble and said, hey, this 45 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: is maybe a little bit spicy, and not because it 46 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: was wrong, but because I wasn't sure that it was 47 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: my place to do. Erica has borne the overwhelming brunt 48 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 1: of the severity of this. Obviously, Charlie affected my life, 49 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 1: he has affected your life. But Erica was his life, 50 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: and it was very difficult to me for me to 51 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: put out a call to forgiveness, even though it is 52 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 1: exactly what Erica e said. It exactly exactly what Charlie 53 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: would have wanted, but I wasn't sure it was my 54 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: place and watching last night being in the room, have 55 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: any tears streaming down my phased my wife's face, that 56 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: everybody around us in the same section Erica give the 57 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: green light that it is okay to forgive. That set 58 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: the tone of what the conservative movement, what turning point, 59 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 1: what the entire country is about, and what they should 60 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: be about. The world is not fair, it is not fair. 61 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 1: But what Erica said there is that you can't combat 62 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: unfairness with further unfairness. You will eventually get into a 63 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: vicious circle of bloodlust. And the only way out of 64 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: that is forgiveness. And that forgiveness is perfectly exemplified at 65 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: the Cross. Forgive them, father, for they know not what 66 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: they do. And forgiveness is hard, it is difficult, It 67 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: is an anguishing process, but it must be gone through 68 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: because it's the only way to live. Yes, on the Cross, 69 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: forgiveness was exact amplified by Jesus, and it was painful 70 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: and it was awful to watch, but it was necessary 71 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 1: because remember then three days after that comes the Resurrection. 72 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: Is the only way to move forward in a world 73 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: that is unfair and will continue to be unfair. Regardless 74 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: of how we feel that we should respond, The only 75 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: way to respond is to forgive. 76 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 2: It was really. 77 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: Interesting last night in my own just emotional state, going 78 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:39,359 Speaker 1: through some of the comments on the internet in response 79 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: to Erica's speech. There were several comments that a week 80 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: ago I probably would have been enraged with, and I 81 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: think you know that that feeling somewhat exists there, but 82 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: it's masked by a feeling of a posture towards forgiveness 83 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: and therefore a posture towards pity. There were several comments 84 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: that I could show you and we could rage bait 85 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: each other look at what they said against Erica, and 86 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 1: you know, none of that would be unwarranted. But overall, 87 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: the tone that Erica is set put myself and I 88 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: hope it put you in a posture towards doesn't matter 89 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 1: what you think. It doesn't matter because we'll forgive you 90 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: for the comments that you make and really have pity 91 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 1: on you. Last night, and I don't want to take 92 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: this overly political in the sense of the direction of 93 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: the country was an oh my God moment. First, in 94 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: the positive light, every single speaker up there mentioned their faith. 95 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: They mentioned the fact that individually we need to become 96 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: a more God fearing society and therefore, more broadly, we 97 00:07:55,760 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: will be able to correct the course of whatever path 98 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: we'd like to see going forward. 99 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: It was also, and. 100 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't mean this in any comical sense, an oh 101 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: my God moment for all of the loud minority who yesterday, 102 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: specifically during Erica's speech, realized, Oh my God, these people 103 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: are starting to wake up and understand who they truly 104 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: are and who they were meant to be. For too long, 105 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: the very, very loud minority has coerced so many of 106 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: us into directions that are not who we are. And yesterday, 107 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: witnessing the long lineup of people that were giving their thoughts, 108 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: sharing their faith, and again more specifically Erica at that 109 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: pinnacle point in her speech, let the world know that 110 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: it is okay to be who you are. It is 111 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: okay to reject the notion that you're supposed to do 112 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: harbor vitriol, which is what so many people who are 113 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: in an anti God state do. It's unfortunate, but it's 114 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: the reality. We can go two different directions here. We 115 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: could have gone two different directions here. Erica put us 116 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: on the direction that we were supposed to go. We 117 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: could have gone the direction of holding despair and holding 118 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: on to the resentment and not wanting to let go 119 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: of a justifiably angry attitude towards the assassination of our 120 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: friend Charlie Kirk. Or we could do as what Charlie 121 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: would have wanted, what Erica has done, and what Jesus 122 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,599 Speaker 1: exemplified himself, and that is to forgive. And if we 123 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: went that direction, which we did, then it can truly 124 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: be the turning point of this country and of the 125 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 1: American people. We got so much to discuss from the 126 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: memorial itself. You can email your thoughts tpt at TPUSA 127 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: dot com. We're at the events. We'd love to hear 128 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: your experience of it. If you watched it on TV. 129 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: Over the one hundred million people that either streamed or 130 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: watched live, which we'll get to some of those numbers 131 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: a little bit later, but that is just an incredible figure. 132 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: We'd love to hear from you. TPT at TPUSA dot com. 133 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this. Welcome back to Turning 134 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Point tonight. We're together. We are continuing Charlie's legacy of 135 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 1: charting the course of America's cultural comeback. And I you know, 136 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: we're serious about that, the cultural comeback of the country. 137 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes you say it a little more hokey. 138 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:48,559 Speaker 1: It's it's kind of the slogan of the show and 139 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: the slogan of what I think Turning Point is is 140 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: is directing and guiding charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 141 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: But I think yesterday was a genuine turning point, and 142 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't use those terms lightly in the American culture. 143 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: Like you said earlier, I think especially Erica's speech specifically 144 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: highlights the tone that is set going forward for conservatives 145 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: and for Christians in this country and how we go 146 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: about forwarding traditional values and the prospect of what America 147 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: could be. You know, I gotta remind you TPT at 148 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com if you were at the event or 149 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,319 Speaker 1: if you watched it live on TV for one of 150 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 1: the one hundred million people around the world that watched 151 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 1: either via internet stream or television, which is an unbelievable number, 152 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: would love to hear your email your thoughts TPT at 153 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: TPUSA dot com. In response to the the cultural comeback 154 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: of this country, I wanted to play, you know, a 155 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: couple clips that I think outside of the speeches, and 156 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: we'll get to a couple of those two, but I'm 157 00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: not sure how many specifically outside the speeches. 158 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 2: I want to I want to try and. 159 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Convey the feeling of the room, the feeling that was 160 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: in that room, having you know, been there, and again, 161 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: i'd love to hear your thoughts if you were there, 162 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: if you if you felt something different, which I don't 163 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: know the people would TPT at TPUSA dot com. 164 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: But this is one of those those. 165 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: Moments that you just you can't replicate or at least 166 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: here let me set this up. This is the worship 167 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: component of it. This is clip five. This is Brandon Lake. 168 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: Could I'd love to talk to about talk to talk 169 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: about briefly, but watch this clip just to kind of 170 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: get that feeling of of what the moment was in 171 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: the stadium there yesterday and Phoenix check this out so. 172 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 7: Time. 173 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: I just wanted to pause it right here. Maybe I'll 174 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: track back a little bit to this video for those 175 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: of you who weren't there and understanding the kind of 176 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: the orientation of the room. This is from behind the stage. 177 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: The screen that you're seeing is at the back of 178 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: the room. The stage is in your lower left hand 179 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: corner here if you're looking at it on the screen. 180 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 1: The people that shot this video, that we're singing in 181 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: this video couldn't even see what was going on. And 182 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: yet we're still impacted in such a way that again 183 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't even I don't know if we've ever seen 184 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: this sort of thing. 185 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if we'll ever see it again. 186 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,839 Speaker 1: I hope we will, obviously not under the circumstances that 187 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: this is. But I just from a visual standpoint, if 188 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: you could see that room, if you were there in 189 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: that room, there's a feeling that I don't know how 190 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: could be replicated. Again, this is from behind the stage. 191 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: These people in this video can't even see what's going 192 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: on outside of the one video monitor on the other 193 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: side of the stadium. That's how powerful I think all 194 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: of this was. 195 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 2: And two. You know, there's several people that were commenting online. 196 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: And again, I'm in a position now and I hope 197 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,240 Speaker 1: you're in the same sort of headspace that it doesn't 198 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: matter what any of the the haters for lack of 199 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 1: a better term, are saying, but there's some commentary around 200 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: the people there that were leading worship. 201 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 2: Brandon Lake is a massive in the Christian world. 202 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: If you're not familiar with the contemporary Christian music world, 203 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: he's a huge figure and that song is very, very popular. 204 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: But he's not a political guy. But I think that 205 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: undersc or it is kind of the meaning of this 206 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: whole thing. It wasn't political. There's no political element of it. Yeah, 207 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: there were political figures and they're you know, leaders of 208 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, the Republican Party there, but. 209 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: It's a cultural thing. 210 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: It was a faith based thing that I think brought 211 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: all of these people together, and I think that's what 212 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: led to to a moment like like the one I 213 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: want to show you. There were there was a moment 214 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: during the the worship music where I'm not sure if 215 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: they were transitioning into a song, I'm not sure what 216 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: was happening, but something happened in the stadium that inspired everybody. 217 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: There were signs on a bunch of different seats to 218 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:39,840 Speaker 1: hold up the signs, and the band just let it go, 219 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: didn't continue a song, didn't go into something, it just 220 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: it just kind of happened, and one of those things 221 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: you can't replicate, but it evoked a feeling that was 222 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: so awe inspiring. I know you probably can't get that 223 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 1: feeling through video, but I want to play you a clip, 224 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: quick clip. 225 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: This is actually producer. 226 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: Going took this video from the floor and put it out, 227 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: so good play clip for There's no way to synthesize that. 228 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: There's no way to create something like that intentionally. It 229 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: happens when God is in the room. And I think 230 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: that's what happened last night. There's a there against so 231 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: many speeches, and you know, again, we'll play a couple 232 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: of it, but there's no way to adequately describe or 233 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: articulate what that feeling was like. And I hope the 234 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand people that were there in the room 235 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: and the the one hundred million people that were watching 236 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: in some way, shape or form via their screen somewhere 237 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: at their house or their computer or TV, whatever it was, 238 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: We're able to feel that in real time as it 239 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,359 Speaker 1: was happening, and then we'll also be able to transmit 240 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: that as they go forward in their life. 241 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: I know I will. 242 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 1: My wife and I were talking about this last night 243 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: as we were on their way back from Phoenix. Is 244 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: you know, as cliche as it might sound, this is 245 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: a genuine turning point in my life, in everybody life 246 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 1: who I think was there witnessing that. And maybe it's 247 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: not cliche. Maybe it's just an adequate and appropriate name 248 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: for the organization that Charlie found in to have a 249 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: turning point in American culture and in the world more broadly. 250 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: I you know, not to well, I don't even want 251 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: to go there. It's going to reiterate the fact that 252 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,840 Speaker 1: I think the people, the very very loud minority is 253 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: shocked and in awe and scrambling for a way to 254 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: figure out what to do because you you can't, there's 255 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: no way to orchestrate something like what happened yesterday. I 256 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: did want to play quickly clip from Tucker because Tucker, 257 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I think, you know, obviously Guy's great with words, was 258 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: feeling the same thing too. A lot of this well, 259 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: I won't say this there if you were in the room, 260 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: you kind of tried to figure out, you know, who 261 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: was where. Obviously President Trump was in a box, you 262 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: didn't see him until he came out on stage. Erica 263 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: was behind the stage and didn't come out. But Tucker, 264 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: not that that's either good or bad, that's just what 265 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: it was. Tucker came out into the area that we 266 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: were sitting in and took it all in, took it 267 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: all in like everyone else. And when it was time 268 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: for him to go up on stage, know that he 269 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 1: was coming from the pit or the floor or whatever 270 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: you want to call it, having taken in all what 271 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: was going on, just like everyone else. 272 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 2: And then after that said. 273 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 8: This unbelievable thing I think I've ever seen, and I 274 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 8: don't whatever happens next in America, I hope it's in 275 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 8: this direction because God is here and you can feel it. 276 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 8: And Charlie would have loved this, not just because he 277 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 8: loved large groups of people, but because ultimately he was 278 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 8: a Christian evangelist. And it actually reminds me of my 279 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: favorite story ever. So it's about two thousand years ago 280 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 8: in Jerusalem and Jesus shows up and he starts talking 281 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 8: about the people in power and he starts doing the 282 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 8: worst thing that you can do, which is telling the 283 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 8: truth about people, and they hate it, and they just 284 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 8: go bonkers. They hate it, and they become obsessed with 285 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 8: making him stop. This guy's got to stop talking. We've 286 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 8: got to shut this guy up. And I can just 287 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 8: sort of picture the scene in a lamp lit room 288 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 8: with a bunch of guys sitting around eating hummus, thinking 289 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 8: about what do we do about this guy telling the 290 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 8: truth about us? We must make him stop talking. And 291 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 8: there's always one guy with the bright idea, and I 292 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 8: can just hear him say, I've got idea. 293 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 9: Why don't we just kill him? 294 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 8: That'll shut him up, that'll fix the problem. It doesn't 295 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 8: work that way. It doesn't work that way. Everything is inverted, 296 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 8: and the beatitudes tell it. I think the most crisp 297 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 8: believe everything is sort of the opposite of what you 298 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 8: think it's gonna be. 299 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, at this is the beginning part of that, I 300 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: would think was the most impactful. God is here, which 301 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: is what I think everybody in that room was feeling. 302 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's there's a bunch of clips that we 303 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: could play. 304 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: There's a you know, definitely speeches that we will I 305 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 1: think we're gonna play a clip from a president and 306 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: also from Secretary of State Rubio that I thought were impactful, 307 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: but we'll get to those later on in the show. 308 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: We're going to talk with White House correspondent Monica Page, 309 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: who actually flew with President Trump to the event yesterday, 310 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: to the Memorial Service yesterday, talk about her experience there. 311 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: She also got to ask the President a couple questions, 312 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: but also in the briefing room today and got to 313 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: ask the Press Secretary several questions there, which you know, 314 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: some heartfelt answers were given. 315 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 2: But we'll check in with Monica. 316 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: After that after the break, as well as play some 317 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: more clips of again what I think is a monumental 318 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: turning point in this country. Don't go away, We'll be 319 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: right back after this. Welcome back to turning point tonight. 320 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: We're together, we are charting the course of America's cultural comeback. 321 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: If you have emails you want to send, whether you 322 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: went to the service yesterday or watched it live on TV, 323 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: would love to. 324 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: Hear your thoughts. 325 00:21:54,840 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: TPT at TPUSA dot com, TPT at tpusa dot com, 326 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: any if any memories you have, any fond memories, but 327 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: also again, the more of the yesterday I thought was incredible, 328 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: unbelievable amount of viewership as the numbers continued to roll 329 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,959 Speaker 1: in on all of the ratings, Send its inning your 330 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: thoughts TPT at tpusa dot com. 331 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: Right now, we want to check in with Turning Points. 332 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,880 Speaker 1: White House correspondent Monica Page, who had a very very 333 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: busy last couple of days, was on Air Force One 334 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,239 Speaker 1: with the President en route to Charlie's memorial service and 335 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: now back in Washington, d C. Got to ask a 336 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: bunch of questions, which we'll get to, but Monica, first 337 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: of all, broadly overall, what was that experience like one 338 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: flying with the President and then two being at the 339 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: memorial and seeing a full stadium of people all there 340 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: to send Charlie off. 341 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 9: Well, it was very overwhelming. And yeah, it was a 342 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 9: very long day, but it was an absolute honor to 343 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 9: travel with the President to Charlie Kirk's memorial service. It 344 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,360 Speaker 9: was a very early day. We didn't get to Joint 345 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 9: Base Andrews until around seven thirty eight a m. Eastern time, 346 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 9: where we kind of waited around and waited till we 347 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 9: could go through our screening process to board Air Force One. 348 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 9: We finally got to the tarmac. You could see the big, 349 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 9: beautiful Air Force one airplane, and you also saw the 350 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 9: second one right behind it, where the additional staff and 351 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 9: additional ADMIN members were also attending Charlie's wake and his 352 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 9: memorial service. And what I thought was incredible was just 353 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 9: the fact not only be on the plane, but to 354 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 9: go through my mind that this would not have happened 355 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 9: if it weren't for Charlie. So it was a somber moment. 356 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 9: I wish it were under better circumstances, but it was 357 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 9: a great flight. I mean, we were fed really well. 358 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 9: It was just a really cool moment to be sitting 359 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 9: with members of the other members of the press and 360 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 9: just be on a piece of history, which was also 361 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 9: really cool. The President did not gaggle with us on 362 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 9: the way to Arizona, but nonetheless it was an awesome experience. 363 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 9: It was a very smooth flight, very comfortable flight. And 364 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 9: then when we landed, we got to watch the President 365 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 9: come down the stairs and get immediately into the beast 366 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 9: in the motorcade. To when that sort of thing happened, 367 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 9: you have to run to your press van all the 368 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 9: way at the end of the motorcade, line, so we 369 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 9: physically ran to the vans to get there, and it 370 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 9: wasn't until you know, we flew down the road about 371 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 9: ten to fifteen minutes away to the stadium. We got 372 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 9: to the stadium and I could see through the curtain 373 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 9: as we're walking through the tunnel to get out to 374 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 9: the big arena. I saw. I can't even express to 375 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 9: you how many people I saw in those stands, just 376 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 9: from far away. And then the curtain finally lifted and 377 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 9: we finally came through the press area into the event. 378 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 9: I was completely overwhelmed with the amount of people. There 379 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 9: was nothing like this. I had never seen anything like 380 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 9: this in my entire life. I mean, you can compare 381 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 9: it to sports events, you can compare it to concerts, 382 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,480 Speaker 9: but there was something about this event that really touched 383 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 9: my heart. And I don't know if it was because 384 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 9: it was just everyone was worshiping, everyone was celebrating morning. 385 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 9: It was just a mix of all different kinds of emotions. 386 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 9: It just made my heart feel full to see my 387 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 9: fellow fellow colleagues there also and try to support them 388 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 9: as best as I could from a far and just 389 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 9: know that, you know, everyone there was there for Charlie 390 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 9: and to support what we do. It was definitely an 391 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 9: overwhelming feeling, Joe Bob. 392 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: You know, it was also just a peek behind the curtain, 393 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: I guess metaphorically and physically. It's super interesting when the 394 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: president goes anywhere. For those of you who don't kind 395 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 1: of pay attention to all of this, you know when 396 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: the president's in the building, not because you see President Trump, 397 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: because the media pool all comes out everybody who travels 398 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: with the president, you know, left, right and center on 399 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: all of their coverage. The people that go with the 400 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: president to come out of the curtains and they come 401 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: into the audience or wherever the media section is, and 402 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: it was just really cool seeing Monica all part of 403 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: those photographers, videographers, reporters that came out that came with 404 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: the president and you kind of get the Okay, Trump's 405 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: in the building and we haven't seen him yet, but 406 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: the press pool is here, and that was just really cool. 407 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: Said Seeing you as a part of that was awesome. 408 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 1: You also got to ask the President a couple questions 409 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: on the plane ride back. I want to play a 410 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: couple of those and then get your response and reaction 411 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: to what he said. 412 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 2: Play cut one No, I was just wondering, he is 413 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:05,880 Speaker 2: the best. 414 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 9: I was just wondering because there are a number of 415 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 9: responds in and around the White House that are named 416 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 9: after specific people. I was wondering if you would be 417 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 9: considering naming something after Charlie's honor. 418 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, there are, there are different little areas. 419 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 9: Yeah, I like that. 420 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 2: Oh we're giving up. 421 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 10: I think even more importantly, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, 422 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 10: which is the highest civision it's I guess they say, 423 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 10: you know, if you think Congressional Medal of Honor is 424 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 10: the militaria, this is a civilian. 425 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: So that's a great trivia. Jim, great guy. 426 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great idea, And you know, maybe you 427 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: put some some thoughts into the President's head there, Monica 428 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 1: with that question. Obviously there's no word yet, but I 429 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 1: don't know, just anecdotally, what do you think the likelihood 430 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: of something like that possibly happening would be. 431 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 9: So I wanted to definitely walk you through this moment 432 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 9: because it's important because I was here at the White House. 433 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 9: Andrew was actually here, and I ran into him when 434 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 9: he was doing some media hits here at the White House, 435 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 9: and I was speaking with some of the press people 436 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 9: who the comms people who work with in the White House, 437 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 9: and I was just doing some kind of like brainstorming 438 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,400 Speaker 9: about other ways that we could honor Charlie, not only 439 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 9: with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, but also in other 440 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 9: ways that maybe people don't really know of. And what 441 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 9: came to mind was that the Press Briefing room is 442 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 9: named after James S. 443 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 6: Brady. 444 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 9: He was Ronald Reagan's press secretary and was also shot 445 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 9: and killed while serving President Reagan. So I was thinking, 446 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,199 Speaker 9: you know, maybe the President would consider doing something like 447 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 9: this for Charlie Kirk. So we were thinking, well, myself 448 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 9: and the other comms people were thinking, maybe a tent 449 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 9: here on the North Lawn Charlie Kirk tent would be 450 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 9: really cool, or just maybe a specific room in the 451 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 9: White House, or maybe a place in the garden because 452 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 9: you know, Charlie loved nature, so something along those lines, 453 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 9: or maybe a little statue. So I definitely wanted to 454 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 9: know what the President's take was, but the President came 455 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 9: back pretty quickly on our flight home. I mean, it 456 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 9: was an exhausting day, as you know, emotionally physically, just 457 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 9: to be there all day and feeling all these range 458 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 9: of emotions. So we're very grateful that the President came 459 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 9: back pretty early. In our flight back home, I was 460 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 9: able to answer some of our questions. But if we 461 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 9: do see something happen at the White House other than 462 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,120 Speaker 9: the Presidential Medal of Freedom, then you know that it 463 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 9: was from us, from you know, it was our idea 464 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 9: to do this. It wasn't just my idea, it was 465 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 9: ours here at Turning Point, USA. So it was just 466 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 9: a really sweet moment. And I'm hoping that more of 467 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 9: this happens, whether it's here at the White House or 468 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 9: even on college campuses, little statues of memorials, because we 469 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 9: know that's what Charlie loved to do. 470 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it really exemplifies not only Charlie, but the 471 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: idea of the free exchange of ideas and free speech 472 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: and what we stand for as a country as a whole, 473 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: even outside of Charlie himself. And so yeah, I think 474 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: that would be very special. You also got to ask 475 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: President Trump another question, so it would be REMISSI if 476 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: I didn't play that as well. 477 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 2: So check this out cut too details. 478 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 9: Around that upcoming event that you can share with us. 479 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 9: Any further details about that event. 480 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 10: I think the event was just a flawless event. It 481 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 10: was beautiful. 482 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,960 Speaker 7: I thought the last. 483 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 10: Song was incredible, the way it was as we were leaving. 484 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 10: In fact, I think I'm going to have I said, 485 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 10: who is singing that song? And I think what I'll 486 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 10: do is I'll grab it and I'll use it at rallies. 487 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,959 Speaker 10: We have rallies to get people elected, and I'll use 488 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 10: it at some of the rallies. 489 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 11: Wasn't that beautiful? 490 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 10: That was the best rendition I've ever heard. 491 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the president is they're just kind of remarking on 492 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: the fact of Yeah, you know, he pays attention to 493 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: all of the things that going on around him. I'm 494 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: not a ton to say, Monica, but do you have 495 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: any any short thoughts on that? 496 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 9: Yeah, so I think he misinterpreted my question. I wanted 497 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 9: to know more details surrounding the Presidential Medal of Freedom 498 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 9: event here at the White House that was going to 499 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 9: be taking place. I'd love to know when that would 500 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 9: be any more details than we can expect to happen 501 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 9: at this event. I do also want to add that 502 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 9: I forgot to mention after you asked me my other question. 503 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 9: One of the last exchanges that I did have with 504 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 9: Charlie was when he was here at the White House 505 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 9: and I saw him and I got a picture with him. 506 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 9: I was like, Charlie, we got to get ourselves the 507 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 9: tent here on the North lawn. And he said that 508 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 9: he always wanted to do his show from the north 509 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 9: lawn of the White House. So I think that it's 510 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 9: to be our responsibility here to make sure that happens 511 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 9: for him. But other than that, I mean, it was 512 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 9: just an incredible event and I'm very grateful that the 513 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 9: President took my questions and was able to attend this 514 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 9: event and give such amazing remarks and be there for 515 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 9: Erica on stage. That's definitely a couple of moments there 516 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,040 Speaker 9: that I just would never forget. 517 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know, lastly, today, I know you're you're 518 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: doing double time here. We're gonna working in pretty hard today, Monica. 519 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: But you were also in the press briefing room and 520 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: asked a couple of questions of Carolyn Levitt, and I 521 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: want to play the last question you asked because I 522 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: thought on you thought too, was a very moving answer 523 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: from the White House Press secretary. Play cut three and 524 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: I'll get your reaction a little lighter note. 525 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 12: Caroline I'd love to know what your favorite memory of 526 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,440 Speaker 12: Charlie is. Sure, Charlie was a great guy, and he was, 527 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,400 Speaker 12: of course a very influential person and in the conservative movement, 528 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 12: in the MAGA movement. He was so helpful to the 529 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 12: President during the campaign and to all of us who 530 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 12: worked on that campaign, that historic campaign. I myself had 531 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 12: many great memories going on Charlie's amazing podcast. 532 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 9: And his show. 533 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 12: He was always willing to text people with words of encouragement. 534 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,479 Speaker 12: In fact, my last text exchange was with him was 535 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 12: the day before he died, and he was asking for 536 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 12: my husband and I's address to send a children's book 537 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 12: to our son. And I think that just speaks to 538 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 12: the type of person. 539 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 6: That he was. 540 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 12: And I know so many of us here at the 541 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 12: White House are going to miss him very much. 542 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really interesting little peak behind the curtains 543 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:45,760 Speaker 1: to the guy he actually was. Monica, what did you 544 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: think about the Press Secretary's response to that? 545 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 9: It was definitely an amazing opportunity to be in the 546 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 9: new media seat today on behalf of Charlie, on behalf 547 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 9: of Turning Point, on behalf of front Lines. Definitely a 548 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 9: really cool experience and I'm so grateful that I got 549 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 9: to ask the questions that, you know, kind of burning 550 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 9: questions for most of us here, especially as a as 551 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 9: a concern's Antifa and violence surrounding Antifa. We know the 552 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 9: President's designating Antifa as a messic terror organization. Excuse me, 553 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 9: We would love to know what more that he would 554 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 9: do to just ensure this kind of violence never happens again. 555 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 9: And then I wanted to make it personal and end 556 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 9: on a lighter note because I know Caroline was a 557 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 9: good friend of his, and he definitely supported Caroline through 558 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 9: her congressional campaign. And I just was out of curiosity 559 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 9: wanted to know, you know, what was that relationship like 560 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 9: behind closed doors that maybe none of us, not all 561 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 9: of us get to see every day. And I wasn't 562 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 9: expecting such a personal answer. So when she gave that 563 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 9: really sweet message of you know, giving us a little 564 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 9: glimpse into maybe their relationship, I was a little shocked. 565 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 9: I was a little surprised because I didn't know that 566 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 9: they texted like that. I didn't know that, you know, 567 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 9: he was going to send them a book for their child. 568 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 9: It just goes to show that Charlie, I mean Charlie 569 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 9: loves kids, you know, he loves the American family and 570 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 9: the idea of you know, people you know, starting their 571 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 9: own family. So it just it really touched my heart. 572 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 9: And you know, just trying to bring closure to something 573 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 9: that's just been so heavy for all of us and 574 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 9: just end things on a lighter note. And I'm really 575 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 9: glad that Caroline got to share that with us. It 576 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 9: was very very special. 577 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it totally was. You mentioned a couple of the 578 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: other things you asked, and we will get to those things. 579 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: You think those are very important. Maybe we'll play them 580 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 1: on the show tomorrow. But yeah, just in remembrance of Charlie. 581 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: With all of the things that we're going on the 582 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: last couple of days, it's been great to hear, you know, 583 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: your first hand experience of the whole process, and really 584 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 1: really appreciate you, Monica for taking the time and sharing 585 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: with us all of those little you know, sneak peaks 586 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: behind the curtains. Really really really fascinating to talk. Thank you, 587 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Joebob, Thanks Monica, see you tomorrow. 588 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: Coming up next here on turning Point. Tonight, we're gonna 589 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: talk more about the memorial. There's there's so many angles 590 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: and so many avenues to cover. We're not gonna want 591 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: to miss it, and you know it might even bleed 592 00:33:58,600 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: into tomorrow. 593 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: There's just so much to get to. 594 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: You can email the show TPT at tpusa dot com 595 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: with any of your thoughts, whether you watched the. 596 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: Memorial from home or you were there. 597 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: Would love to hear your experience and even how it 598 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,359 Speaker 1: might have moved you. Send those emails to TPT at 599 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: tpusa dot com. No go away, We'll be right back 600 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 1: after the break. Welcome back to you. Turning point tonight. 601 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: We're together where you're continuing to chart the course of 602 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: America's cultural comeback. You can email the show anytime you 603 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: want TPT at tpusa dot com. I love hearing all 604 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: your thoughts, especially if you were there at the event 605 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: yesterday or watched it live one of one hundred million 606 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: people that watched it through whatever medium that you watched 607 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: at TBT at tpusa dot com. I wanted to bring 608 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: in someone else who was there the entire event. Obviously 609 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: we talked to Monica Page, who was with Trump and was, 610 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: you know, in and out like Trump was, which is 611 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,399 Speaker 1: totally fine, but somebody who was there for I think 612 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: since six in the morning we walked over together. Chris 613 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 1: Hand is the host of The Chris Hand Show and 614 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Speaker 1: also a friend of this show. He's a guest several times. Chris, 615 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. I really appreciate taking time. 616 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,880 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me. Last yesterday was just amazing. 617 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 13: I mean, full on from the moment that we walked 618 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,760 Speaker 13: up because we you know, full disclosure, a little backstory, 619 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 13: me and Joe Bob we met in a hotel lobby 620 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 13: and then we walked over with your producer Glenn and 621 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 13: all of our wives. But even from when we were 622 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,720 Speaker 13: walking in there, you could just tell the tone was different. 623 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 13: You know, there's a sea of one hundred thousand people, 624 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,920 Speaker 13: and as soon as we say, hey, guys, we got 625 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 13: to get in, we're staff, the way the crowd just 626 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 13: parted for us, you could tell that the mood was 627 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,399 Speaker 13: completely different from the onset. And then when we got 628 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 13: to go in there and we were in there with 629 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 13: an empty building and it was heavy, it was it 630 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,399 Speaker 13: was quiet. And then as the day went on, as 631 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 13: this crowd filled in and there's seventy thousand plus people, 632 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 13: you felt that same quiet come back as people were 633 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 13: given their heartfelt testimony about Charlie and what Charlie meant 634 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,879 Speaker 13: to their life. And I think everybody has their own 635 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 13: Charlie's story, but this audience wanted to hear them, and 636 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 13: they listened, and they listened intently. And I can't think 637 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 13: of another event that I've ever been a part of 638 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 13: where you could hear a pin drop and a crowd 639 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 13: of seventy thousand people. 640 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you actually brought up a good point. 641 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: I wasn't really even considering we were going to talk 642 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: about this, but yeah, just early in the morning, we 643 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,200 Speaker 1: were texting each other because Secret Service locks down the building, 644 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: as they should, by the way, but there's there's really 645 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: only one way to get in. Everybody had to enter 646 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:46,879 Speaker 1: through the same way, whether you were you know, high 647 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: profile media or you know, just people showing up to 648 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 1: support Charlie. Everybody to go through the same entrance. But 649 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: we obviously had to get in kind of sooner and 650 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: kind of had some things to do inside. And the 651 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,120 Speaker 1: graciousness which the audience just said, yeah, go go go 652 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 1: right on through, that doesn't exist in you know, any 653 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 1: sort of other context, especially you know, a sporting event, 654 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: let alone a you know, an event held by the 655 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,160 Speaker 1: other side of the political aisle. 656 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 2: Nobody just says, oh, yeah, just go go right on through. 657 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 2: We know we got to get there. 658 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: We had, you know, two pregnant women with us, my 659 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: wife included, along with a couple of other people that 660 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: just needed we need to get in the building for 661 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, various reasons, and the crowd was so gracious 662 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,160 Speaker 1: in letting us do that. 663 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: You just don't see that anywhere else. So, yeah, thanks 664 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 2: for bringing that up. 665 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,359 Speaker 1: That was actually a point that I hadn't touched on yet, 666 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: But Chris, I wanted to play this clip from JD Vance, 667 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,200 Speaker 1: which I thought was so emblematic of really everybody who 668 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: was able to speak at Charlie's memorial yesterday. I know 669 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 1: people have heard this clip, but I think it's worth 670 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: talking about play cut too. 671 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 11: I was telling somebody backstage that I always felt a 672 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 11: little uncomfortable talking about my faith in public. 673 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 1: As much as I. 674 00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560 Speaker 11: Loved the Lord and as much as it was an 675 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,200 Speaker 11: important part of my life, I have talked more about 676 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 11: Jesus Christ in the past two weeks than I have 677 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 11: my entire time in public life. And that is an 678 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 11: undeniable legacy of the Great Charlie Kirk. You know, he 679 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 11: loved God, and because he loved God, he wanted to 680 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 11: understand God's creation and the men and women made in 681 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 11: his image. 682 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: Chris, what are your immediate thoughts to that? My first 683 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: thought is amen. 684 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 13: My second thought is this guy is the example of 685 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 13: the American story. And I've said this about JD. Vance 686 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 13: for a long time. This is the new American story. 687 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 10: Right. 688 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 13: He dealt with town going to hell because of NAFTA, 689 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,480 Speaker 13: he dealt with parents with addiction issues, like everybody knows 690 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 13: somebody that's gone through this. But then he just added 691 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 13: a new element to the American story because so many 692 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 13: people in these last eleven twelve days have felt that 693 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 13: same feeling, like yeah, I pray privately, but now I'm 694 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 13: going to bring my faith into the public square. Now 695 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 13: I'm done hiding it. Millions of Americans feel that way, 696 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 13: and not just Americans. We've seen it in Korea, Australia, England, 697 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 13: you name it. This is this is a global trend. 698 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 13: And JD. What you don't see in that clip because 699 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 13: they panned to the crowd, but I watched and you 700 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 13: were sitting right there next to me, is we're staring 701 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 13: at JD. He really got choked up. He was really 702 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 13: truly moved by that, and you can kind of hear 703 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,440 Speaker 13: it in his voice as they come back to him 704 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 13: on the shot. But he meant that and he felt that, 705 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 13: and I think that that really resonated with a lot 706 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 13: of Americans. 707 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,759 Speaker 1: But I think is really I said this earlier in 708 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: the show, the kind of the theme of all of 709 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: this and including the reaction, especially on the other side 710 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: of the aisle, is oh my God. 711 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 2: One in a positive light of everybody out. 712 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: There sharing their their relationship experience with God and their 713 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: their religious affiliation and their Christian values. But then also 714 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 1: on the you know, the lib side of the aisle going, 715 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,840 Speaker 1: oh my God, we are in trouble because the loud 716 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: minority that has directed culture for all too long is witnessing. 717 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: I think so many people like you just said, start 718 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:36,799 Speaker 1: to go. You know what, I'm gonna start saying this. 719 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: It has not necessarily been commonplace in American culture, especially 720 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: for public figures, but now it is, and now is 721 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: the time to continue pushing the message because ultimately, at 722 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's what's best for everybody. 723 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: Obviously your personal relationship, but as a society and a 724 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 1: culture as a whole. 725 00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 2: It's best for everyone, Chris. 726 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: You know, I think one of the things that you know, 727 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,439 Speaker 1: people people kind of tend to, especially in the modern 728 00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: political erica, is I'm gonna make my arguments based solely 729 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: on reason, not bring religious religion into it, because that's 730 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: a knock that the left gives us a lot. Do 731 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: you think that kind of element is going to start 732 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: to change and people are gonna go, No, we are 733 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 1: a we are a Christian founded society, and we are 734 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: going to lean into that. 735 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 2: So I hope we lean into that. 736 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 13: But I would say be more like Charlie, and I 737 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 13: would say Charlie could decimate you either way. He could 738 00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 13: hit you with straight facts or he could bring in faith. 739 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 13: And I think that you should be equipped for both. 740 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 13: You should put on the armor of God, but you 741 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 13: should also arm yourself with knowledge. And these things don't 742 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 13: have to be separate, but you should be equipped to 743 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 13: win the argument either way. And that's that's what Charlie 744 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 13: could do. He could absolutely tear you apart from a 745 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 13: faith aspect, or he could tear you apart with stats 746 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 13: and numbers. But I think that leaning into our faith 747 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,799 Speaker 13: is definitely something that we need to do and something 748 00:41:57,840 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 13: that we're gonna see a lot more of in the future. 749 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 13: We've we've said a lot in this country that elections 750 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:05,359 Speaker 13: come every two years, every four years, and we get 751 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 13: a new guy in, but then oh, something changes and 752 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,120 Speaker 13: the things that we wanted to happen didn't happen. But 753 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 13: what we've really needed in this country is a heart change, 754 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 13: and I think that for the first time in a 755 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 13: long time, we're seeing a heart change on a massive level, 756 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 13: and just for the mere fact of people not being 757 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 13: afraid to do it is going to change this nation. 758 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 13: Does that mean you need to do it every time? No, 759 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,320 Speaker 13: not necessarily, but you should be equipped to do both. 760 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably an argument to be made of like, yeah, 761 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: they're one and the same, but they can be bifurcated 762 00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 1: in certain scenarios and certain circumstances. But I get what 763 00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: you're saying, and I think that's a good tact to take. Lastly, 764 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: as we're wrapping up here, we did the whole first 765 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:52,160 Speaker 1: segment on Erica's speech and the significance of that without 766 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: getting into the nitty gritty details of forgiveness in that 767 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: whole element, which I think was the most important moment 768 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 1: of the entire event. 769 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,520 Speaker 2: What did it feel like to you in that room? 770 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: I kind of shared my thoughts of it, but just 771 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: from another perspective, what was, for lack of a better 772 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: the vibe. 773 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,919 Speaker 13: Like I saw a lot of grown men putting on sunglasses. 774 00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 13: I know that I saw a lot of women crying, 775 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,919 Speaker 13: and I saw a lot of people realize that Erica 776 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,919 Speaker 13: is a lot stronger than we even thought she was. Yeah, 777 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 13: like she was strong, but that level of strength. I 778 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 13: leaned at my wife and I said, I don't know 779 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 13: how she's doing this because I don't think I'm ready 780 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 13: to forgive him, and this is Charlie's wife. But then 781 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,399 Speaker 13: you kind of start to rationalize in your head, if 782 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 13: she's ready, then we have to, as Christians, were called. 783 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 2: To do this. 784 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 13: Yeah, I don't know how she can be there already, 785 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 13: but I think that that's a testimony to her faith 786 00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,040 Speaker 13: and a testimony to her strength and a testimony to Jesus. 787 00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 13: And I don't think you can explain it any other way. 788 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 2: Rationally, yeah's one hundred percent true. 789 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: And I think also after you you look at the 790 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: element of forgiveness and what that does you kind of 791 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 1: look at it in the perspective of running the organization, 792 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: and to be honest with you, it'd be very difficult 793 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: for somebody to harbor resentment in their heart and run 794 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: the organization like that. But again, it's it's comforting to 795 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 1: know that Erica has been able to get there as 796 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 1: quickly as she had and very very positive in terms 797 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: of running the organization with a heart like hers. I 798 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: think there's no telling what Turning Point is going to 799 00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,120 Speaker 1: be able to do going forward. 800 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and it's a testimony. 801 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 13: It's a testimony that the organization is in the right 802 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,880 Speaker 13: hands because Charlie led with his faith and now we're 803 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 13: seeing Erica do the exact same thing. 804 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that is absolutely correct. 805 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 1: Chris Hand hosted a Chris Hand Show, also friend of 806 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: the Turning Point tonight show which you may may see 807 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: a little bit more of him coming up here in 808 00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: the next couple of days or weeks. But thanks for 809 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 1: joining us, Chris, really appreciate you taking the time. Hey, 810 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,719 Speaker 1: I love the show, watch it every night. Praying for 811 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: you and praying for your beautiful wife and that you 812 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: guys have the health happiest baby in the entire world. 813 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,640 Speaker 2: I appreciate it, mat thank you so much. 814 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: Coming up next year in Turning Point Tonight, we'll try 815 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: to get to some of your emails, time permitting, TPT 816 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: at TPUSA dot com. I won't rant about that, so 817 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: we can go to commercial break and be right back 818 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: after this. 819 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 2: Welcome back to Turning Point Tonight. We're together. 820 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: We are continuing to chart the course of America's cultural comeback. 821 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,640 Speaker 1: You can email the show anytime you want, TPT at 822 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,920 Speaker 1: tpusa dot com. I look forward to seeing all of 823 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: the emails regarding Charlie's memorial service, as well as any 824 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,680 Speaker 1: of the thoughts you have on today's show. TPT at 825 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,040 Speaker 1: tpusa dot com. We only have time to get to 826 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: one email, and I thought this was just interesting and funny. 827 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: I won't I won't say who it's from, but it 828 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,760 Speaker 1: just said twenty twenty eight, and then the email itself 829 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,840 Speaker 1: only said Erica for President. 830 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,080 Speaker 2: She has by vote. 831 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I reckon, guys, were you know that's 832 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: a little bit, a little bit of levity there, But. 833 00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,800 Speaker 2: I think it's one it would be deserved. 834 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: I can't say that I would disagree, but I think 835 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,600 Speaker 1: that kind of strikes to the core of what Erica 836 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: was doing. 837 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 2: The grace and the genuineness. 838 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,600 Speaker 1: That I think she displayed would invoke that kind of 839 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960 Speaker 1: feeling in a lot of people. Maybe we can get 840 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 1: that trend started Erica twenty twenty eight. You know, WoT 841 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't be a bad decision in my book. But TPT 842 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: at TPUSA dot com if you have any other thoughts, 843 00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,040 Speaker 1: we'd like to share anything from the memorial, whether you 844 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: were there or whether you watched it live, we'd love 845 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: to hear it, and we'll hopefully get some more of 846 00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 1: those emails tomorrow. I wanted to end the day, and 847 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: there's so many clips that could be played. You may 848 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,320 Speaker 1: recanize Mete. We didn't play a clip from Preident Trump, 849 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: not for any other reason because there's not enough time. 850 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: There's not enough time to play all of the clips 851 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,879 Speaker 1: from all of the speakers. But I thought Senator or sorry, 852 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:58,400 Speaker 1: Secretary Rubio was fantastic. Wanted to play brief clip from 853 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,880 Speaker 1: him before we signed off. Here's Marco Rubio at Charlie's 854 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: memorial yesterday. 855 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: I watched this, but. 856 00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 7: I'm confident he would agree. One of the things he 857 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 7: wants us to take away from this from all of 858 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 7: this is the following his deep belief that we were 859 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 7: all created, every single one of us, before the beginning 860 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 7: of time, by the hands of the God of the 861 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 7: universe and all powerful God, who loved us and created 862 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,279 Speaker 7: us for the purpose of living with him in eternity. 863 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,480 Speaker 7: But then sin entered the world and separated us. 864 00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:30,240 Speaker 2: From our creator. 865 00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 7: And so God took on the form of a man 866 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,760 Speaker 7: and came down and lived among us, and he suffered 867 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 7: like men, and he died like a man. But on 868 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 7: the third day he rose unlike any mortal man. 869 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 2: And then, and to. 870 00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 7: Prove any doubters wrong, he ate with his disciples so 871 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 7: they could see, and they touched his wounds. He didn't 872 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 7: rise as a ghost or as a spirit, but his flesh. 873 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 5: And then he rose to the heaven. 874 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 7: But he promised he would return, and he will. And 875 00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 7: when he returns, because he took on that death, because 876 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,720 Speaker 7: he carried that cross, we were freed from the sin. 877 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:10,799 Speaker 2: That separated us from him. 878 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 7: And when he returns, there will be a new heaven 879 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,880 Speaker 7: and a new earth, and we will all be together, 880 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 7: and we are going to have a great reunion there 881 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,080 Speaker 7: again with Charlie. 882 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:21,919 Speaker 2: And all the people we love. 883 00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,280 Speaker 7: Thank you, and God bless you. 884 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:28,440 Speaker 2: You know. 885 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: One of the criticisms, and I'm not even calling him criticisms. 886 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,759 Speaker 1: I just think they are words spoken by lost individuals 887 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,160 Speaker 1: right now. One of the things that those folks are 888 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 1: saying is that, well, you got to watch out for 889 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,280 Speaker 1: Christians pretending to be Christians in order to move votes. 890 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 2: And all they're saying is nothing genuine. It's just a. 891 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:55,000 Speaker 1: Grift to get more power. Okay, I understand that concern, 892 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: so to speak, but grifters don't have that deep of 893 00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,480 Speaker 1: an understanding of what they're trying to grift on. They 894 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: keep it very very surface level. And that is not 895 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: what JD said. That is not what Rubio said, That 896 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,880 Speaker 1: is not what so many other of the people that 897 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: displayed their own personal relationship with God at Charles's memorial yesterday. 898 00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,120 Speaker 1: Grifters are lazy by nature. They don't actually dig into 899 00:49:18,120 --> 00:49:21,200 Speaker 1: the weeds of what they think or what they pretend 900 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,600 Speaker 1: to think. What we saw yesterday is a bunch of 901 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,919 Speaker 1: people who I believe genuinely have a relationship with God, 902 00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,239 Speaker 1: and we're putting it on display in a way that 903 00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,560 Speaker 1: they had never done before. And the people that do 904 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: that genuinely do it with an understanding deeper than anybody 905 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: who's trying to play the politics of the day. And 906 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: I think that's what we saw primarily yesterday. I could 907 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,959 Speaker 1: go on and on about this, maybe we'll talk about 908 00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,560 Speaker 1: it more tomorrow, but that's got to do it first, 909 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: to show or at a time we will see a 910 00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: same time, same place tomorrow. Send your email tpt at 911 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 1: tpusa dot com. God Bless America.