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Speaker 3: we've done this. We do a little something here called

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Speaker 3: coach Speak. And how this works is that coaches around

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Speaker 3: the world of football have had some things to say

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Speaker 3: over the past several days. They're going to tell you

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Speaker 3: their version, and then we're going to do a deep

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Speaker 3: dive and tell you what they actually mean. All right, So,

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Speaker 3: without further ado, Patrick Sweek as the host, and you

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Speaker 3: have got some clips from coaches around the league, potentially NFL,

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Speaker 3: potentially college football as well too, that you are going

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Speaker 6: Why yes, I do welcome to coach speak. Everybody where

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Speaker 6: the coaches speak, but it is your answers here is

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Speaker 6: what I seek.

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Speaker 7: So does time to play what your gypsy? Looking at

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Speaker 7: a crystal ball? I want to go for rhyming. So

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Speaker 6: We went for the griming court here. Oh so right there,

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Speaker 6: I mean I am irish.

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Speaker 7: So it works. There we go, checks out, checks out.

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Speaker 6: All right, So we have first here, guys, we have

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Speaker 6: mister Mike Tomlin, the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 6: He was talking about, you know, fans chanting fire. Tom well,

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Speaker 6: he kind of responded a little bit, give a listen

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Speaker 6: here on that.

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Speaker 8: In general, I agree with him from this perspective. Football

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Speaker 8: is our game. We're in a sport entertainment business. And

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Speaker 8: so if you root for the Steelers, entertaining them is winning.

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Speaker 8: And so when you're not winning is not entertaining. And

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Speaker 8: if you've been in this business, you understand that, and

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Speaker 8: so I respect it. I share frustrations. I understand what

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Speaker 8: makes this thing go, and winning is what makes this

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Speaker 6: And with that, the one that gets to go first,

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Speaker 6: at least from the last time I did this, the

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Speaker 6: winner of last what two weeks ago, was far?

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Speaker 7: You get to first, Let's go far. I guess.

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Speaker 5: I guess what what coach was trying to say is, well,

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Speaker 5: I blame y'all the fans. I blame y'all for everything

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Speaker 5: that's going wrong with the Pittsburgh Steelers. It's all y'all's fault.

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Speaker 5: I'd be able to be a better coach if y'all

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Speaker 5: ruined my life. You've ruined my team. I blame y'all.

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Speaker 5: Y'all want to be entertained. Ain't y'all a problem? And

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Speaker 5: that's what he was trying to say.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, var to see you. I want to continue

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Speaker 6: to be entertained. Jonas, you get to go next on this.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing this for how long? I've been running

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Speaker 3: the show here for how long? We've never finished below

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Speaker 3: five hundred and you wrap bastards are telling everybody that

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Speaker 3: I need to be fired. Why don't you go shovel

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Speaker 3: of Primanni's in your mouth, keep it closed, and just

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Speaker 9: While we try and make a playoff run here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I get it. Things haven't looked smooth down the stretch.

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Speaker 3: We started off four and one, we've been two and

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Speaker 6: Fu well, I'm continued to wow, Brady, do you have

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Speaker 10: No, not really, I'll be honest with you.

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Speaker 11: When he was speaking, the whole entire thing I was

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Speaker 11: staying in my head was Mike Toman's up there, like.

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Speaker 10: Here we go again. I gotta answer these questions.

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Speaker 11: I'm just gonna toss a word salad at them and

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Speaker 11: just say a bunch of stuff. But none of it

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Speaker 11: really makes any sense. None of what he said made

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Speaker 11: sense to me. I think he was just trying to

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Speaker 11: get through it. So I really don't have anything for this.

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Speaker 11: I almost was going to ask you to play it again,

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Speaker 11: that's all confusing.

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Speaker 10: The whole thing was, you know, we.

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Speaker 6: Could play it again if you want to hear one.

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Speaker 6: Let's let's get Let's get that for Brady Quinn. Here

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Speaker 6: it goes again.

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Speaker 8: In general, I agree with them from this perspective. Football

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Speaker 8: so if you root for the Steelers, entertaining them is winning.

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Speaker 8: And so when you're not winning is not entertained. And

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Speaker 8: if you've been in this business, you understand that, and

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Speaker 8: so I respect it. I share frustrations. I understand what

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I understand by what I said. I'm gonna answer

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Speaker 11: the question with a bunch of words. It's not really

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Speaker 11: gonna say anything or say much. But this is the

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Speaker 11: definition of coach speak. And none of you all feared

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Speaker 11: this out yet, so it sounds good, and you guys

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Speaker 11: are gonna listen to my response. But I'm really not

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Speaker 11: saying anything at all right now.

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Speaker 7: Honestly, that's what he was really saying.

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Speaker 3: By the way, he's gonna make a fortune being a

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Speaker 3: public speaker when he's done. That guy can talk his

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Speaker 10: Yeah, right there, I honestly don't know what I mean.

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Speaker 10: He basically said, if they're winning, they're entertained. Like, no, crap, Yeah,

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Speaker 10: we get it.

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Speaker 7: I'm captain obvious.

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Speaker 10: That's thank you.

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Speaker 7: Come on, Pat, you know what.

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Speaker 6: The winner of this one, by scathing degree, here is

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Speaker 6: one in mister Jonas knocks.

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Speaker 7: On the board. It was good, yours was good.

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Speaker 9: It was good.

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Speaker 6: Choke on Yeah, ACU Stadium, whatever it's called. Oh lord, well,

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Speaker 6: number two we got the Minnesota Vikings head coach, my guy,

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Speaker 6: Kevin O'Connell. He was recently talking about JJ McCarthy saying.

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Speaker 7: Apparently he is symptom free. What does that mean? Give

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Speaker 10: He's symptom free.

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Speaker 12: And now the last phase, I believe of the protocols

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Speaker 12: just he needs to just have a full practice day

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Speaker 12: and that should come on Wednesday. So, like I told

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Speaker 12: you guys, I think yesterday expecting that, you know, barring

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Speaker 12: any unforeseen changes to where he's at today, and I

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Speaker 12: think just having that Wednesday will allow him to have

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Speaker 6: And with that, I'm going to pick you know what,

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Speaker 6: Brady went last year, Get to go first in this round, Brady,

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Speaker 6: go on, you get to go.

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Speaker 10: We're scared we draft him in the first round. We

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Speaker 10: don't think he's very good.

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Speaker 11: H he's gonna be trying to go to practice, but

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Speaker 11: we're actually he's gonna slip on some ice and get

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Speaker 11: hurt walking onto practice. So we don't have to keep

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Speaker 11: starting him, because that's how we feel about it. We're

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Speaker 11: gonna keep trying to wrap him in bubble wrap, get

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Speaker 11: him in the off season. Maybe we could trade him

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Speaker 11: somewhere and figure this whole situation out, because it's a disaster.

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Speaker 7: All right, all right?

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Speaker 6: I like that one, Brady, I do. And you know what, Jonas,

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Speaker 6: you get to go last on this var you're up next.

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Speaker 10: Let's go far.

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Speaker 5: Well, we were the hottest team last year, and you know,

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Speaker 5: we made a journeyman, household name, gotting paid. And look

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Speaker 5: at what they're doing there in Seattle this year. They're

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Speaker 5: doing a great job. And I'm sure Sam will be

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Speaker 5: practicing on Wednesday, getting ready to get another win. We're

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Speaker 5: four and eight, We're we're now last place in the

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Speaker 5: NFC North and can you believe the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 7: Are number one.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on here in Minnesota and

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Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy is the reason why. But hey, we're going

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Speaker 5: to get them back out there on Wednesday and we'll

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Speaker 6: Next question, we will see what happens. Well, I'm gonna

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Speaker 6: see what happens from you, Gionas. What do you got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, here's your update on JJ McCarthy. He

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Speaker 3: he's symptom free of a concussion.

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Speaker 7: What else is the typical blessing?

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Speaker 9: We're still testing positive for bad quarterbacks. Oh, I mean good,

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Speaker 9: and let me tell you something so good.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't help that the two guys we let walk,

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Speaker 3: Sam Darnold and Daniel Jones have got their teams on

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Speaker 3: the brink of playoff spots and have been playing really

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Speaker 3: good football deposition. And here we are with this guy

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Speaker 3: who can't stay healthy and he's got a nine moniker

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Speaker 3: to go along with his nine quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Rne As LeVar said, next question.

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Speaker 5: Well, you'll test the positive for what game before.

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Speaker 7: We Well done, well done, no game.

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Speaker 6: Before we go to the next question. I do give

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Speaker 6: the next vote for this and.

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Speaker 5: Hold on, Brady hasn't gone went first.

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Speaker 10: It was just not very memorable.

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Speaker 7: You know what was memorable? A two and o start

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Speaker 7: for mister Jonas Knox. Let the man.

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Speaker 3: J feeler they and coming back on us baby, Oh god,

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Speaker 3: all right, all right.

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Speaker 6: Next up on the list, we have head coach of

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Speaker 6: the Kansas City Chiefs. You have mister Andy Reid big Red,

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Speaker 6: and he was talking about winning out and making the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: You know, give a listen to what coach Read had

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Speaker 13: We're gonna go after you every game, and you know

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Speaker 13: that's how we roll. We're gonna try to tickle your

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Speaker 13: tonsils on every every play, every game. And uh, but

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Speaker 13: that's that's the attitude that we're we're coming in with.

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Speaker 13: Then then that you let the chips fall where they may.

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Speaker 7: Huh uh, Jonas, since you you're on a hot start.

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Speaker 6: Go first, it's yours, floor's yours.

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Speaker 3: Look, we'll tickle whoever's tonsils we want, whether it's with

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Speaker 3: whether it's with a stee Sepagnolo blitz, or whether it's

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Speaker 7: Exotic I like that.

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Speaker 7: Next question. All right, we're.

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Speaker 5: Ready to tickle topsels. That's how I want to bring it.

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Speaker 10: I forget when we were.

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Speaker 7: Running back again, running back.

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Speaker 11: Here's what says every time I hear Andy Reid, I

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Speaker 11: tickles me to just I want to eat a big Red.

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Speaker 11: That's what they call me. I want some barbecue. I

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Speaker 10: See. But let me tell you something.

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Speaker 11: All it's on my mind right now is a double

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Speaker 10: That's why they call me big Red.

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Speaker 6: All right, all right, hear me out, hear me out

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Speaker 6: on this boat here, how you had me? You had

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Speaker 7: Brady wins this round.

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Speaker 5: All right, all right, it definitely sounded like right back,

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Speaker 5: Let's think about adult strip club. Think about food and

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Speaker 5: the strip club. And then you can combinelitude today.

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Speaker 10: Why are you politics?

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Speaker 7: You wanted to hear it again, Let's hear it again.

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Speaker 7: Let's hear it one more time.

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Speaker 13: We're gonna go after you every game, and you know

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Speaker 13: that's how we roll. We're gonna try to every play

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Speaker 7: Do you know that?

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Speaker 5: Letty, you're making them chips rain by the way, bring.

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Speaker 7: Me some food while we do it, by the way,

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm gonna talk and just in circles, and we're

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Speaker 10: Go out there and do our best every single week.

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Speaker 10: We're taking it one day at a time.

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Speaker 11: To focus on need to do in order to accomplish

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Speaker 7: We're all here and that's how we roll.

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Speaker 5: And we're gonna tell some coaches talk this this, and

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Speaker 9: May has anything to do with anything.

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Speaker 7: Upon further review, because how we roll upon? No, no, no,

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Speaker 7: it's all right. I'm alright. Brady gets to keep his

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Speaker 10: Far gets how sweek us up on the fine board?

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Speaker 7: Yes, come on, that's a point to guys. Upon further review.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he gets a point because you know what, it

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Speaker 11: We voted by the way we think you're scared of ar.

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Speaker 11: At this point, I can't stand up to him. He

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Speaker 5: Oh my god, I just want to do you are

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Speaker 7: I wanted you to hear him again. That's that was it?

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Speaker 7: What is this?

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Speaker 9: What is that makes sense?

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Speaker 7: What is it?

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Speaker 3: Because when I saw a pat this morning, he said, hey,

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Speaker 9: How you doing? Said I'm good? How are you?

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Speaker 7: He said?

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Speaker 8: Good?

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Speaker 9: He turns around and sees bar what what.

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Speaker 10: No dump?

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Speaker 7: Butite was needed either.

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Speaker 9: Patrick force my fingers.

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Speaker 7: Did you really hit it?

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Speaker 13: Yeah?

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Speaker 9: He really did.

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Speaker 7: No, we didn't. I didn't say that.

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Speaker 9: I know, I know you did.

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Speaker 7: Why did you hit it? It was it was it

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Speaker 7: But for no reason do it.

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Speaker 5: The second time only the first can't be something that,

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Speaker 7: Listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 6: Everybody with that said we have our next one.

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Speaker 7: What up my dizzle.

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Speaker 7: We got Pete Carroll, head coach of the Raiders.

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Speaker 14: Attitude, the mentality, guys support one another. All of that

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Speaker 6: And get around.

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Speaker 14: There was a game a few weeks ago with two

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Speaker 14: You know the same thing. We're in the same place

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Speaker 14: and so it just hasn't happened yet. And it feels

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Speaker 14: and so maybe they'll like that for you guys, but

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Speaker 14: that's what it feels like. Yeah, I can say that

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Speaker 6: Room and with that, LeVar, you get to go first

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Speaker 5: I got nothing. I don't, I don't, I got nothing.

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know. I don't, I don't,

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't have anything. I really I did.

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Speaker 5: But it was crazy, triple x overrated because that's where.

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Speaker 7: My mind was.

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Speaker 10: For Mandy Rie, you're your Bardes the go.

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Speaker 5: Andy Reid took me to the strip club. I mean

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Speaker 5: it sounded like a strip club, peptop something. He was

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Speaker 5: hungry to me, I hoped, don't know, man, it's in

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Speaker 5: our reach. It's around the corner. I mean, what are

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Speaker 5: you on? Are you in a car? Are you on

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Speaker 6: Like?

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Speaker 5: Are you walking? How far away is this corner from

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Speaker 5: where you're at? That's like kind of what came to

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Speaker 7: Damn yeah, mister Brady Quinn, you get to go next year.

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Speaker 7: Number two.

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Speaker 11: I think he was having a senior moment. He was talking,

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Speaker 11: And then oh is that a squirrel?

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Speaker 10: Squirrel? Squirrel? I used to coach at s C. We

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Speaker 11: We turned it around. I was cheating the whole entire time.

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Speaker 11: That's the only reason why we won.

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Speaker 15: There.

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Speaker 7: Wait, second, I'm coaching it chiunk.

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Speaker 10: We just haven't turned it around. That's yep. We just

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Speaker 9: Stupid go don't.

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Speaker 7: Oh God Jonah save us.

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Speaker 9: Listen. I got here with all sorts of energy. I

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Speaker 9: Man, this is this is gonna work.

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Speaker 3: And then I realized, by about week five or six,

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Speaker 3: or playoff run. Yeah, this team sucks and I'm gonna

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Speaker 16: All right, Well, with the winner of this one three points,

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Speaker 7: Pretty good at this one? Good, it's pretty good. All right?

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Speaker 7: We found something.

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Speaker 5: After all this time, we have finally found something that

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Speaker 5: we was talking about that earlier.

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Speaker 6: We do have a fifth one. I am making an

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Speaker 6: college one for here for a special request for this one.

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Speaker 7: So this was head.

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Speaker 11: Coachas automatically hates it automatically.

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Speaker 7: Scott Frost from UCF. We are late, very late. You're

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Speaker 7: very late. This is what mister Frost had to say.

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Speaker 10: It's broken. College football is broken. Yeah.

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Speaker 17: I don't know if you'll get that honest answer from everyone,

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Speaker 17: you just got to try to play a game as

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Speaker 17: best you can. And you know, Terry and people here

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Speaker 17: from with everybody else from a rev share standpoint, that

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Speaker 6: And with that, that was Scott for us. There are

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Speaker 6: you getting to go first here, Brady? Since you made

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Speaker 6: the special request here, you get to you first.

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Speaker 10: Yeah. I think it's like we don't have any money.

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Speaker 10: This is what's broken, all right. I'll standing up here

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Speaker 11: I've got to talk to these parents, these players, these agents.

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Speaker 11: They all want more money. We don't have enough. Man,

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Speaker 11: I got nothing. My pockets are empty. I just gave

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Speaker 11: a kid a stick of gum trying to get it

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Speaker 11: to come here. But that's that's the life I'm living

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Speaker 11: in right now.

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Speaker 10: Some call it broken.

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Speaker 11: I'll just say we're broke, flat out broke. Y'all need

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Speaker 7: All right?

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Speaker 6: I dig it, And you know what, I'm gonna queue

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Speaker 6: it up because var you want me to que this

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Speaker 6: soup free?

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Speaker 7: I got You's go.

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Speaker 17: It's broken college football broken.

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Speaker 5: Blue Choo can help you with that. All you gotta

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Speaker 5: do is use that tablet. That's a cheap crow for

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Speaker 5: your crotch. Next question, you're Jonas zero, Yes, snap into

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Speaker 9: Can we can we pause this? I gotta go talk

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Speaker 9: to LeVar real quick.

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, oh I got.

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Speaker 9: That's it.

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Speaker 6: I concede and the winner of the final round here

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Speaker 6: is there one Penn states only LeVar?

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Speaker 7: Harrington?

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Speaker 10: Did you even say anything?

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Speaker 9: Yes, Harrington?

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Speaker 7: LaVar g is second place. You don't want us to

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Speaker 7: have nothing? So why ya like that? Why do you

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Speaker 7: act like that? I don't want us to have nothing

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Speaker 7: at all?

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Speaker 10: Quinn?

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Speaker 3: Uh So, Patty's fine is for every time he kisses

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Speaker 3: Levar's ass.

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Speaker 9: Basically, is that what we've determined here?

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Speaker 11: Well, it's more it's a scared fine. All right, you

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Speaker 11: can't play scared. I believe that he's he.

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Speaker 5: Just doesn't want to make LeVar angry or what. I'm

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Speaker 5: like this upset black man. I'm a hostile.

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Speaker 10: I mean, look, you can hostel and a number of

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Speaker 10: I have.

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Speaker 7: I have and they ain't even see me. I don't

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Speaker 7: know why am I considered that?

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Speaker 10: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I think it's because you are very animated when you talk.

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Speaker 11: Sometimes when you're passionate about something.

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Speaker 5: I'm just I'm just talked passionately though it's false enthusiastical,

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Speaker 5: but but.

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Speaker 11: Usually you're pretty chill, so that it's like this, you

471
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Speaker 11: ever see the dude who like they walk super slow,

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Speaker 11: So then when you see them run, you're like, oh,

473
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Speaker 11: he's pretty fast, and you're like, he's not that fast. Actually,

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Speaker 11: it's just he walks, so I am slow when I

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Speaker 11: see it. It's the same thing when you talk, you're always.

476
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Speaker 10: So like chill, hear and all stuff, and like when you.

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Speaker 11: Really get excited to get animated. So then it's like

478
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Speaker 11: people are like, oh, he really like me about.

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Speaker 7: Something, means he's hostile. Can I get on this goddang flight?

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Speaker 10: Now?

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Speaker 11: How a woman saw that on a phone from Delta?

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Speaker 11: I have no idea. Whoa yeah, man, yeah, that's a

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Speaker 11: real story.

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Speaker 10: I also think you might have threatened her life, but

485
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Speaker 10: that's neither here nor there.

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Speaker 5: I never do that, never do that. But with the bluetooe,

487
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Speaker 5: you know, I mean, you can threaten lives, you.

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Speaker 10: Know what I mean. I'm just.

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Speaker 5: You have to say it's broken, you know what I mean, dangerous. Indeed,

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Speaker 5: I did pull my I did pull my burner strap out.

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Speaker 5: I mean I could be hostile pulled it out the

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Speaker 5: other day.

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Speaker 7: I told you all the other.

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Speaker 5: Week, Paul, this dude pulled up on me when I

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Speaker 5: was getting gas on my way in here.

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Speaker 7: Look, He's like, hey, man, I know you don't know me.

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Speaker 10: I pull.

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Speaker 5: I said, hey, brouh, and you don't know me. He

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Speaker 5: was like, oh, oh got a problem here.

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Speaker 10: We got a problem.

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Speaker 5: We got a problem right here, homie, we got a problem.

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Speaker 5: He was white, did and you called him bruh like

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Speaker 5: that bruh. Yeah, I call everybody bruh, boss, bruh. Like

504
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Speaker 5: if it's about to be some drama, I'm gonna hit

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Speaker 5: you with some bruh like bruh, got a problem.

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Speaker 9: Levar's like, man, I see two of the two of

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Speaker 9: you every morning.

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Speaker 7: This I'll need it.

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Speaker 9: I get enough for you.

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Speaker 7: I gotta talk to you.

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Speaker 3: has been named a Hall of Fame finalist. Yes, so

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Speaker 3: he's a step closer to getting in. The bad news

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Speaker 3: is Justin Tucker has gotten a couple of tryouts with

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Speaker 3: teams that bad but has not gotten signed.

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Speaker 7: That's the bad news.

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Speaker 3: But the best news is Deshaun Watson is returning to

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Speaker 3: practice from his achilles injury. So if you were wondering,

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Speaker 3: have we seen the end of the road for the

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Speaker 3: quarterback carousel in Cleveland with the Browns, No, no, because

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Speaker 3: there is a slight chance that Deshaun Watson could be

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Speaker 3: under center at some point this year. What the Cleveland

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Speaker 3: Browns the practice windows opened.

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Speaker 10: I thought, old Jimmy has them said he was done.

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Speaker 5: There till he saw he ain't had nothing left. But

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Speaker 5: you said, you said, it's the Cleveland Browns. Anything is

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Speaker 5: possible at that position. You've said that.

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Speaker 11: Well, yeah, I know, and that's why I didn't think

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Speaker 11: this was possible though. So my initial thought is they

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Speaker 11: most likely realized they don't want to eat all of

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Speaker 11: his contract if they're going to move on from him.

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Speaker 11: So he's got a showcase that he's healthy and he

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Speaker 11: can play. And maybe that's a little bit what this

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Speaker 11: is about. If there's any trade value whatsoever, they would

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Speaker 11: have to showcase that he's healthy, can play. So maybe

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Speaker 11: someone else else is willing to take on the contract.

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Speaker 11: They get something back in return, most likely draft capital,

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Speaker 11: and they'll have to pay the Lion's share of this contract.

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Speaker 11: But that would be my guess, is why this is

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Speaker 11: all happening the way it is. That or just like

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Speaker 11: Jimmy hasn't said whatever you wanted to say earlier in

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Speaker 11: the off season.

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Speaker 3: So it says Cleveland stilows him forty six million dollars

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Speaker 3: next year, and he's got an eighty point seven million

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Speaker 3: dollar cap for the twenty twenty six season.

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Speaker 9: That's the largest in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: So it's almost astonishing how bad of a deal this

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Speaker 3: was for the Browns, Like almost shocking.

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Speaker 9: How bad of a deal this was for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: And yet here we are having the conversation about him

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Speaker 3: potentially coming back and returning honest to gud at this point,

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Speaker 3: I hope it happened.

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Speaker 9: Why not?

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Speaker 3: Why not, like, like, bring him back, and what if?

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Speaker 3: What if say he comes back for two games and

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Speaker 3: just lights it up. If you're the Browns, all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, you're looking at it going, oh, maybe, I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, maybe we run this back next year. Maybe

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Speaker 3: we can get him out on the field and see

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Speaker 3: what happens if we don't like the quarterback draft class.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but come on, guys, we all know why he

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Speaker 11: shouldn't come back on the field. It's bad timing, bad

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Speaker 11: time where it's perfect time? Is it perfect timing?

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Speaker 10: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: She was close. It was close. You know, it was

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Speaker 5: almost like right there. I saw her fingers going and

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Speaker 5: uh it was almost clicking and and but it didn't

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Speaker 5: pop up at the time that we presented. It's all right,

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Speaker 5: I mean it was perfect time. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: in some regards, just not right here right now.

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Speaker 10: That's all.

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Speaker 7: There's a level that.

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Speaker 10: Should probably bequeued up for every show.

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Speaker 5: There is a level of giving up just now. I

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Speaker 5: just saw like, yeah, just not going to happen. Oh

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Speaker 5: oh okay, there you go.

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Speaker 9: Now.

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Speaker 5: I wonder if they could remix this with Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 5: you know, dropping a verse to it.

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Speaker 10: Get a joke.

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Speaker 5: You know, they said it wasn't time for me. I

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Speaker 5: had a massage on me. I came back because they

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Speaker 5: need me, and they played me lots of lots of money.

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Speaker 5: I got a whole lot of times. I gotta use them.

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Speaker 5: I can't use them if I don't play a game.

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Speaker 5: So I'm coming back to play a game soon. It'll

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Speaker 5: be this season. Yeah, they call me Dee Watson. I

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Speaker 5: throw the ball. I'm in Cleveland with a whole lot

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Speaker 5: of whoa. Yeah, I don't though. I'm just saying one

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Speaker 5: more time. I'm just saying no, no, I ain't.

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Speaker 7: Really mean it. I ain't really made it.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a shame about the Browns that this

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Speaker 3: could happen. No, Defensively, they're unbelievable. You're gonna have the

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Speaker 3: defensive player of the year in Miles Garrett are You're

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Speaker 3: gonna have the defensive rookie of the year in Swesteringer.

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Speaker 9: Mason Graham's also.

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Speaker 3: In the odds list, like they've actually drafted pretty decently.

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Speaker 3: And yet this contract and this decision with Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 3: even if you get all of that stuff. Right, if

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Speaker 3: you butcher the quarterback position, it's like you got no shot.

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Speaker 9: There's literally no shot.

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Speaker 3: And I wonder does Jim Schwartz get some love or

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Speaker 3: get some interviews to be a head coach based on

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Speaker 3: what he's done with that defense, because he's one of

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Speaker 3: those like Spagnolo guys who you look at and go,

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Speaker 3: why are they not talked about more? Because that defense

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Speaker 3: is unbelievable and he doesn't get any of the love.

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Speaker 11: Like it's just I didn't realize you're just giving the

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Speaker 11: defensive rookie of the year the way a Swessenger, I

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Speaker 11: mean Jalen Walker and Atlanta, he'd be up for it, Okay,

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Speaker 11: I mean I know Abdul Carter at one point was

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Speaker 11: up for it before the poorn he was watching the

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Speaker 11: meeting room or whatever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, schwessingers of minus seven hundred on DraftKings.

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Speaker 10: It's over. Yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 7: Hmm.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that'll do it.

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Speaker 7: But I just same for their season, I mean.

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Speaker 10: Eliminated yet.

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Speaker 11: But in all seriousness, though, I do think in regards

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00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,239
Speaker 11: to the decision for him to return, two things are

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00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 11: at play. He probably wants to come back to prove

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00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 11: that he still can play. If he still wants to

681
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 11: make money in this league. There's an element of the

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00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 11: brown side of things. If they want to trade him,

683
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Speaker 11: then he'll have to show that he's healthy, show that

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Speaker 11: he's still capable. However, you do have to be concerned

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00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 11: about him getting injured again. I mean, he's coming off

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Speaker 11: of what an achilles, so there's got to be a

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Speaker 11: concern over re injuring that hurting something else. There being

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Speaker 11: something where like he's not even healthy again to trade

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Speaker 11: him in the offseason. So there's there's also that concern

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Speaker 11: where if they are doing this to eventually move on,

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00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 11: there has to be a thought that there's still risk

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Speaker 11: involved if he does play at any point in meaningless

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Speaker 11: games that he could get hurt and he gets they

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Speaker 11: could be stuck with him again.

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Speaker 5: I feel like the games are meaningful if you're trying

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Speaker 5: to move in and that's the only reason why it

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Speaker 5: would be meaningful with him being involved.

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Speaker 11: But here's the other thing that I don't get about

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Speaker 11: this is all in all seriousness should always played what

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Speaker 11: in three games? Like don't you want to let him

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Speaker 11: play this thing out? Like see what you have in

702
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 11: him before you want to move on from whether it's

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00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 11: moving on from Dylan Gabriel, moving on from him and

704
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Speaker 11: everyone else into the draft next year. You know what

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Speaker 11: you have in Watson?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you're going to have to. I was watching, Uh,

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Speaker 5: who who's the coach? Uh?

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Speaker 7: Oh man?

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Speaker 5: Why am I blanking on his name? Used to coach?

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Speaker 5: Coach Washington? Has the brother He's a younger brother, Grooden

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Speaker 5: Grooden Gruden the other Grouten though not John Gruten, Jay Grewton. Okay,

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Speaker 5: I was watching Jay Gruten break down some of he

713
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 5: was breaking down some of Shador Sanders film and the

714
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: things that he was pointing out. I was like, dang,

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00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: it's so obvious. Like when he points it out and

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00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 5: shows it, it's like wow, like yeah, like look at

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00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: the vision or look at the footwork, this, that and

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Speaker 5: the other. And he brought up the idea of, you know,

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00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 5: obviously the offensive line isn't that great. It's not giving

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Speaker 5: him the perfect opportunities or you know, situations for perfect timing.

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Speaker 5: But with that being said, he's basically saying that with

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Speaker 5: what's taking place, yes, she ready to go.

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Speaker 7: Now you know what?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because everybody got everybody saw the is it waddle?

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Speaker 7: Was it? Who is his receiver Tom Model, No, Judy Jeredy, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: jer Judy, Jered Judy.

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Speaker 5: Everybody saw the whole thing between them on the sideline,

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Speaker 5: and Gruten was explaining it like here, he shows it

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Speaker 5: right here.

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Speaker 7: He's like he was he was open earlier in the

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Speaker 7: play all he was. He was open late.

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Speaker 5: He just missed him, but he was open early, would

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00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 5: have gave him, you know, a laying. And then he

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00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: starts to like show like the different reads and how

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Speaker 5: quickly he would be able to get the ball out

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Speaker 5: and be effective to getting it to an open man.

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Speaker 7: He just didn't see it, or didn't.

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Speaker 5: Trust it, or didn't feel it, or he said maybe

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Speaker 5: that's the way they're coaching it, which I thought was

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Speaker 5: very interesting because they said much of the things that

741
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 5: they're criticizing Shador Sanders about right now are the same

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00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: things that Dylan Gabriel was doing, So it could be

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Speaker 5: that's the way they're being coached. Well, I don't know

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00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 5: if he's It looked kind of accurate. I mean, it

745
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: sounded kind of like like it makes sense and what

746
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 5: I'd say is multiple plays though, I mean he was

747
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 5: breaking down the of it. That's great.

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Speaker 11: Gabriel typically has gotten rid of the football much faster,

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Speaker 11: like I think the one thing should do or is

750
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 11: brought to the offense that was not there with Dylan Gabriels,

751
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 11: like more downfield chunk plays, you know that sort of style.

752
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 11: Look Shoudor holds onto the football too long. He's not

753
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 11: even actually able to be on the NFL Next Gen

754
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 11: stats because he doesn't have enough pass attempts yet, But

755
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 11: when he does, I would imagine he'll be at the

756
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 11: very bottom of the league.

757
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:29,240
Speaker 10: For quarterbacks who qualify.

758
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 11: Caleb Williams holds on the football longer than anyone, about

759
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 11: three point three seconds, which is super long. Now, some

760
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 11: of that can be you know, byproduct of play action passed,

761
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 11: you know, seven man protections, deeper shots down the field.

762
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 11: But some of it also, too, is them just holding

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Speaker 11: on the football to try to create, to try to

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Speaker 11: do more, to try to you know, they're not seeing

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Speaker 11: it very well. That's more of what I see from

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00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 11: him is things are still moving fast, and that's fine.

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Speaker 10: He's a rookie.

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Speaker 11: I thought with Gabriel, you know, usually the ball got

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Speaker 11: out pretty quick, and if it didn't, then you saw

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Speaker 11: him holding on to it trying to create. But you know,

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00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 11: as far as as far as where Shador's at. He

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Speaker 11: needs to play more. He needs more time. Like That's

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Speaker 11: why I again, I go back to, what's the point

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Speaker 11: of bringing back Watson. If you're gonna move on from

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Speaker 11: potentially all of these guys because you have such a

776
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 11: high draft pick in next year's draft, you want to

777
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 11: go up the quarterback, why not see at least what

778
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 11: you've got if not one of these guys could either

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00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 11: compete or be a backup, you know, let.

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Speaker 10: Him play, let him see what he's capable of.

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Speaker 11: He obviously has made some nice plays here and there,

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00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 11: and and he still needs more experience. So look as

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Speaker 11: to his point of how they're reading things, yeah, no

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00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 11: one knows unless you're in that quarterback room. But I

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00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 11: would say this, like the exact same things that were

786
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 11: concerns for you when he was coming out of Colorado

787
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 11: are still concerns now. And the offensive line, you could say,

788
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 11: has not really done him any help. But they're also

789
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 11: not the worst offensive line in the league. There's much

790
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 11: worse offensive lines.

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Speaker 5: I just think the value here is how many games

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Speaker 5: are left when Deshaun Watson is available to actually be

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00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 5: up and play. I don't care if he gets hurt.

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Speaker 5: If I'm the Cleveland Browns, I don't care if he

795
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 5: gets hurt. And the reason why I don't care if

796
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 5: he gets hurt is because I'm getting nothing from him now.

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Speaker 5: And I could understand the idea of wanting to see

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Speaker 5: what you can get out of your rookies, but I

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Speaker 5: would also add that, well, he's worth more than both

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00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 5: of them put together, two, three, four times. So spicy,

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Speaker 5: I'm not being spicy about it.

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Speaker 10: Hold on.

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Speaker 11: The one problem is is if he does get hurt,

804
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Speaker 11: he's still on your roster.

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Speaker 10: You can't trade him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I don't see that as a problem.

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Speaker 5: I see it as the biggest problem is you're getting

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Speaker 5: zero now.

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Speaker 10: He has an eighty point seven million dollars cap it

810
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Speaker 10: next year.

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Speaker 5: You're getting zero from him now. That's all I'm saying,

812
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Speaker 5: Like we're so late, but and I get it, But yeah,

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Speaker 5: we're getting You know, you're getting nothing from him now.

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Speaker 5: I put him in and see if I could get

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