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Speaker 1: It is a Tuesday summer over football and the Herd

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Speaker 1: officially back. It is great to be here with our

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Speaker 1: fancy news set live in LA. It's the Herd wherever

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Speaker 1: you may be, however you may be listening Ryan Day,

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Speaker 1: buck Eye's head coach, stops by Nick Wright, Albert Breer,

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Speaker 1: our final Herd hierarchy moving into the season. We're all

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Speaker 1: a little ten ready to roll Jmax. So that was

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Speaker 1: about as bad last I knew what today's lead was

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Speaker 1: going to be, and for at least five to seven

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Speaker 1: minutes it was a masterpiece for UNC Michael Jordan and

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Speaker 1: Roy Williams that ended up being an.

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Speaker 3: All time Conker.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that is as bad twenty nine to ten

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Speaker 1: first downs. So there was a lot of hope. Even

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Speaker 1: TCU's a social media team is mocking Carolina Football today.

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Speaker 1: So of all the discussion about Bill Belichick, the big

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Speaker 1: concern I had was, remember I talked about this forty transfers,

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Speaker 1: It's like a friends and family coaching staff. There's three Belichicks,

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Speaker 1: and Mike Lombardi and his son, and then there's Belichick's girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: and then there's Jamie Collins who's never been a coach,

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Speaker 1: but he played with Belichick. It kind of feels like

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Speaker 1: a friends and family staff. And I saw that with

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick at.

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Speaker 3: The end of New England.

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Speaker 1: He didn't hire the best coaches available. He hired the

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Speaker 1: guys he was most comfortable with. Young Bill Belichick would

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Speaker 1: have fired this. Bill Belichick, he's seeking comfort. You can't

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Speaker 1: coach in a gated community. Nick Saban goes out and

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Speaker 1: hires Lane Kiffen Is the OC. They were at each

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Speaker 1: other's throats. Saban was not seeking the most comfortable guy

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Speaker 1: to hire. He brought in Lane, Lane's ego, but Lane's

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Speaker 1: a great coach, and Saban continually would go get the

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Speaker 1: best coach available. After the first drive, they had a

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Speaker 1: really nice scripted first drive. After that, six drives without

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Speaker 1: completing a pass. Because the game has changed, you have

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Speaker 1: to take offense. Seriously, Freddy Kitchens is the OC. He

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Speaker 1: was already on staff, you know, so why putting the

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Speaker 3: We'll just move up.

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Speaker 1: Freddy Kitchens was Freddie Kitchens up for elite offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: He wasn't, but he was on staff.

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Speaker 1: This is like what they did in New England where

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Speaker 1: offense tomorrow. This offense isn't good. This is when Belichick

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Speaker 1: interviewed with the Atlanta Falcons. Remember he laid out his

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Speaker 1: McVeigh coaches his guys. Then they go on and become

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Speaker 1: The transfer portal feels a little like Bitcoin. Everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: with a little discomfort. You have to bark. Occasionally things

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Speaker 5: We'll have to do ourselves. And that's what we're going

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Speaker 1: So the second story, and this happened several days ago,

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Speaker 1: He participated in walked throughs, but his behavior could be odd,

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Speaker 1: Packers are getting damaged goods here. The Packers are getting

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Speaker 1: a playmaker. But I still support the move. Now, I

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Speaker 1: don't think I talked to somebody over the weekend. I

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Speaker 1: don't think Michael was the most popular guy in the

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Speaker 1: Not by the way, Jalen Hurts, believe it or not,

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Speaker 1: Sa Kwon Barkley is loved in that locker room. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Not everybody loved Peyton Manning. He would bark at his friends.

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Speaker 1: they're not Green Bay. They don't have the culture right

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Speaker 1: what he was. He's just gonna go wreck a play.

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Speaker 1: The problem is they have a week coaching staff right

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones has always played himself off as a big

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Speaker 1: They had the worst running back room in the league,

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Speaker 1: That's what Dallas needs because in this sport right now,

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Speaker 1: is there any greater deal maker than Howie Roseman in

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Speaker 1: their division? Twice a year with the Eagles. No, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it gives them multiple first round picks. I would certainly

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Speaker 1: round if I could. I know you're all in love

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Speaker 1: with Dak, but this insistence that Dallas got host folks,

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Speaker 1: I've seen Dak Ceedee, Lamb and Mike in the playoffs. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I saw those guys get housed by the Green Bay

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Speaker 1: that thing about three series in was over. The Packers

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Speaker 1: Blew them out, Jordan Love bleuw them out.

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Speaker 3: So I've seen this.

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Speaker 1: I don't get the rints in repeat factor or this insistence.

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Speaker 3: I mean the thing about Micah.

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Speaker 1: He's a really good fit for what green Bay needs now,

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Speaker 1: but Dallas needs flexibility more than an edge rusher who

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Speaker 1: disappears at times against the best left tackles he goes

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Speaker 1: go and wreck plays. I'd have trouble paying forty seven million.

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Speaker 1: So I think it two things can be true. I

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Speaker 1: one playoff win, that's it. And this coaching staff in

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Speaker 6: Winning is everything to me.

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Speaker 7: I don't think you're gonna find a more competitive person

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Speaker 1: On set this before when you start a new show.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, folks, it takes about six months to let

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Speaker 11: There's a blessing and a curse in some of it.

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Speaker 1: And again people are saying, hey, don't crush the kid.

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Speaker 8: All right, Colin, Let's go right to Chicago, the Windy City.

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Speaker 1: Well, they have the better roster. We would admit Minnesota's

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Speaker 12: It's completely different personnel. So we're gonna do what our

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I would look at the under I'm with you.

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Speaker 8: I don't know that that Beigent contract surprised me. I

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Speaker 8: don't want to be too negative, but like, I think

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Speaker 8: more pressure on Caleb in this game than JJ McCarthy's debut.

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Speaker 3: There's no question.

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Speaker 1: And Chicago's you know, they call it Minnesota nice. Minnesota

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Speaker 1: doesn't get hostile. Chicago gets hostile fast. It's a big,

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Speaker 1: loud Philadelphia, Boston, Chicago. They have expectations. I am fascinated

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Speaker 1: and I just don't know. I mean, if you told

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Speaker 1: me I get to watch one game this weekend, it's

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Speaker 1: Bears Vikings and for both quarterbacks, I know I have

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Speaker 1: two brilliant offensive coaches.

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Speaker 2: Charger's Chiefs, Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys without all that game's over in the second quarter.

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Speaker 1: I think love's going up by the way, just the coaches.

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Speaker 1: Chicago Minnesota, those two teams have so many elite offensive weapons.

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Speaker 2: That's your number one game of the week.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think it's fascinating because there's such a mystery

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Speaker 1: behind the quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Jet Steelers not remotely all right.

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Speaker 8: Let's move on to Jalen Hurts and then defending Super

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Speaker 8: Bowl champion Eagles. There will not be a Super Bowl hangover.

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Speaker 8: Look at that line. You see that eight and a

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Speaker 8: half is opened at seven.

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Speaker 1: I know although numbers are at seven, it was the

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Speaker 1: bet of the weekend Philadelphia.

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Speaker 2: This could be a beatdown.

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Speaker 8: Let's just go to the Diana Russini believes Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 8: mentality will be the key to the team's success this year.

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Speaker 1: Jalen views this season so differently than he has every

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Speaker 1: other year because now that he has the ring.

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Speaker 6: It's a completely different mentality.

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Speaker 3: The pressure's off, right, He's done.

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Speaker 11: It now, So now it almost feeds into the confidence

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Speaker 11: that he's done it.

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Speaker 2: He knows how to do it. He knows how to

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Speaker 2: win in the big moments.

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Speaker 1: Favorite part about Jalen Hurts And I was talking with somebody.

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Speaker 1: I was gone for about nine ten days and I

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Speaker 1: was talking to somebody about nine or ten days ago,

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Speaker 1: and they so said, people would be surprised to know

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Speaker 1: that Jalen's not the most popular player in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: but he may be the most respected. Is that Jalen

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Speaker 1: really goes to the beat to his own drummer. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's got his management team, it's all women. He does

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Speaker 1: his own thing, he's got his own view of it.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's one of those athletes that will

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Speaker 1: be totally unaffected by winning. I think he's got a

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Speaker 1: very I think good parents, strong parents, He's got a

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Speaker 1: real strong sense of self. I think Jalen Hurts is

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Speaker 1: one of those unique athletes that he just the heartbeat,

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Speaker 1: doesn't change. Win or lose, you get the same guy.

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Speaker 1: And he's not really concerned. They call it inner scoreboard.

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Speaker 1: He's not really concerned what I think of him, the

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Speaker 1: media thinks of him, the fans think of him good,

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Speaker 1: He's not necessarily always concerned what his teammates think of him.

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Speaker 3: I've heard he's just he's guy.

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Speaker 1: I've said before at the podium, he's the best I've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. That is a noisy team and a noisy town,

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Speaker 1: and a noisy fan base and a noisy media. His personality,

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Speaker 1: you would never know on the Wednesday pressure if they

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Speaker 1: won by thirty or lost, you would never know.

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Speaker 8: So he was at Alabama thriving, then gets benched, very humbly,

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Speaker 8: goes to Oklahoma.

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Speaker 2: What happened right back in the playoff.

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Speaker 8: This guy's you can't stop him. He's really I like

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Speaker 8: your point. He tunes out the outside, he does he

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Speaker 8: does not give a crack. He really doesn't.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's the opposite of a guy now that

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Speaker 1: I like Baker Mayfield. Remember Baker's first two years in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: He heard everything. Jalen hears nothing.

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Speaker 8: He's not favoriting tweets here.

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Speaker 1: He's in his own zone. He is he is if

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Speaker 1: you're there, if you're talking in tangibles, his are as

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Speaker 1: good as anybody's I've seen.

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Speaker 8: Are you surprised there's not more chatter about the Eagles repeating.

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Speaker 2: I had not heard any. It was Chiefs. Hey can

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Speaker 2: they three beat? Can the Chiefs?

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Speaker 8: There's like nothing about the Eagles. You like the Rams.

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Speaker 8: A lot of people talking forty nine ers, schedule, Green

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Speaker 8: Bay ads, Micah.

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Speaker 2: I almost feel like the Eagles are undervalued. Colin. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to say I unloaded on the Eagles here

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Speaker 2: in this game. If they smashed Dallas and.

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Speaker 8: I'm talking like another thirty four to seven, because they

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Speaker 8: beat him badly twice last year. I just wonder if

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Speaker 8: people are like, maybe I don't want to say dynasty.

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Speaker 2: They've been to two Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: To Dylan Hurds, I have the best composition of elite

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Speaker 1: older players, prime players, young player.

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Speaker 2: I get the best young players in the league.

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Speaker 1: They also have multiple guys in their prime.

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Speaker 3: They're all in the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so they they and they so they tend to

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Speaker 1: be They move off guys a year early than late.

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Speaker 1: They're never afraid to move off good older players.

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Speaker 8: The final story is your guy, Matthew Stafford. Now we

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Speaker 8: were texting about this yesterday. There is some concern about

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Speaker 8: Stafford and his back despite him starting in week one.

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Speaker 8: McVeigh says he's expected to start. I mean, come on,

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Speaker 8: they're not going to hold Stafford out. But the key

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Speaker 8: story here is left tackle Alaric Jackson. He had blood clots.

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Speaker 8: He just started practicing, participating in yesterday's practice, and McVeigh

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Speaker 8: says the plan is for him to shut up.

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Speaker 2: Now, maybe there's some gamesmanship.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Stafford's back Jackson with the blood cut.

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Speaker 1: Or I throw this is the upset of the weekend potentially.

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Speaker 1: So I have Will Anderson, one of the best young

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Speaker 1: rush ends. I have a left tackle that hasn't practiced

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Speaker 1: until this week, and a quarterback that by the way,

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Speaker 1: he's dB Cooper all camp.

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Speaker 3: Where is he?

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Speaker 1: Like? Honestly, this game, if you're a Rams staff this

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Speaker 1: game has to terrify you.

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Speaker 3: If there's one thing.

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Speaker 1: You want to have ready to go when you play Houston,

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Speaker 1: your left tackle, your offensive tackles. And I think Havenstein

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Speaker 1: did he have another shoulder surgery? He's had a couple

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Speaker 1: of them this game. If I'm the Rams is now

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Speaker 1: Davonte Adams, I think is real juice. But when I'm

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Speaker 1: reading the story on their left tackle, I'm like, this

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Speaker 1: is not the team to have a under practice left tackle.

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Speaker 8: But at the same time, what about the Rams defense?

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Speaker 8: You love them, how they improved and is an undergame under.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not. I don't have a side bet at all.

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Speaker 8: I mean, listen Texas whole new offensive line basically and against.

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Speaker 2: The Rams front with your boy Verse.

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Speaker 8: Who people are betting him to win Defensive Player of

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Speaker 8: the Year, Like that's how much height there is?

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Speaker 1: He was sensational, was excellent, and he got better first

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Speaker 1: quadrant of the cisore. Our guys have a stat here.

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Speaker 1: Stafford has struggled in Week one.

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Speaker 8: Remember no preseason back, so maybe the Rams come out sluggish,

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Speaker 8: I heavy kyrin Williams game. Perhaps, but yeah, I'm with you.

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Speaker 8: I like the I like low scoring game.

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for stopping by the line. I want to touch on

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Speaker 1: this again. So there's a story at ESPN. They put

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Speaker 1: all their best reporters on it, and listen. I'm not

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Speaker 1: blaming the reporters, but Dallas is getting a little chirpy

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Speaker 1: and chippy because Dallas is getting crushed for the trade

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Speaker 1: of Micah.

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Speaker 3: And I would have made the movie a year ago.

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Speaker 1: But I do think the draft picks Dallas accumulated next

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Speaker 1: year are better than the ones in this draft, because

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Speaker 1: this was a week draft and next year is an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable draft. But here's the difference. Green Bay has a

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Speaker 1: great coach, Dallas doesn't. Green Bay has winning momentum Dallas doesn't.

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Speaker 1: Green Bay has their culture set Dallas doesn't. Green Bay

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Speaker 1: is a Super Bowl capable team, Dallas isn't. So you

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Speaker 1: need Mica. You need Micah to be the cake and

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Speaker 1: the icing in Dallas. Green Bay just needs them to

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Speaker 1: be the icing. They've got the coach, coach, the culture,

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Speaker 1: the offense, a team first, mentality. They don't need much.

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Speaker 1: They need a game wrecker. And green Bay is in

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Speaker 1: a division with Kevin O'Connell, Ben Johnson, Dan Campbell and

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Speaker 1: that great offensive weaponry in Detroit. They got to get

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Speaker 1: to the quarterback. And green Bay does almost everything well

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Speaker 1: except find game wreckers on defense. They did it with

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Speaker 1: Charles Woodson, they did it with Reggie White, and I

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Speaker 1: think that history and that success of taking a huge swing,

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Speaker 1: which green Bay doesn't do a lot, I think they

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Speaker 1: look at this and they think, this is our Charles Woodson,

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Speaker 1: this is our Reggie White. So I think everybody's got

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Speaker 1: different windows. I think it works. Micah isn't for everybody.

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Speaker 1: I tend to think he's he wanted forty seven million,

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Speaker 1: But for green Bay, everybody's windows are different.

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Speaker 3: Green Bay is is.

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Speaker 1: They needed a disruptor, They need a distraction, They need

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Speaker 1: a playmaker because they're in division with some of the

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Speaker 1: smartest offensive people in the league, and they got to

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Speaker 1: get the ball back to their offense. So I thought

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Speaker 1: green Bay it was the time to place. It's a

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Speaker 1: little more than I want to pay, but you know

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Speaker 1: they're paying. They're paying Jordan Love and they're paying Micah

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Speaker 1: and quarterback and game wreckers. And they also are a

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Speaker 1: team that drafts and develops exceedingly well over the last

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Speaker 1: thirty years. They're a team that gets third, fourth, fifth

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Speaker 1: round players to perform quickly and for long stretches. So

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Speaker 1: I'm always like Philadelphia does. I'm always going to say

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Speaker 1: teams like that can take bigger swings because they get

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Speaker 1: so many inexpensive players in the second, third, fourth, and

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Speaker 1: fifth rounds. And Green Bay has been doing that forever.

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Speaker 1: They've had great offensive lines the last thirty years. They

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Speaker 1: almost never draft offensive lineman in the first round. So

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Speaker 1: I like it for green Bay, I like it for

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Speaker 1: Dallas and Ryan Day of the Buckeyes.

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Speaker 2: Next, be sure to catch live editions of The Herd

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Speaker 2: weekdays and noon Eastern non a em Pacific.

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Speaker 1: Well college football delivered in a big way. Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: Miami clems in LSU, Ohio State beats Texas. Ryan Day's

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Speaker 1: a busy guy. He always takes time for our show,

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Speaker 1: and I've told him how much I appreciate that. Seventh

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Speaker 1: season at Ohio State. By the way, is the only

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Speaker 1: active coach with a NAT is one over eighty five

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Speaker 1: percent of his games.

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Speaker 3: So when you hired Matt Patricia.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't the bell of the ball, and not everybody

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Speaker 1: was going, hey, brilliant higher Chip Kelly was different.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's like, that's gonna work.

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Speaker 1: But what did you see with Matt Patricia who'd had

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Speaker 1: a little coaching turbulence. What did you see Ryan, because

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Speaker 1: he clearly was a problem for Arch and that Texas offense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's always.

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Speaker 10: Great to be on your show, Colin, thanks for having me.

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Speaker 10: First off, I'm known Matt for a while. I know

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Speaker 10: the type of person he is. He's a great man,

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Speaker 10: he's a great husband, great father, and he really early

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Speaker 10: on built relationships and trust within the building in a

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Speaker 10: short period of time with the staff and they you know,

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Speaker 10: Tim Walton, McCrary, Larry Johnson, James Lurneitis and the players

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Speaker 10: deserve a ton of the credit. But that being said,

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Speaker 10: you know, Matt put it all together. And it's only

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Speaker 10: a start. We had a long way to go, but certainly,

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Speaker 10: you know, for our first game of the year with

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Speaker 10: an inexperienced group going on the field, it was a

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Speaker 10: good start.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It was a weird early start for you.

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Speaker 1: You got pinned deep a couple of times, and some

653
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Speaker 1: Buckeye fans are like, we gained a couple of hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: But my takeaway was, and I said this from the

655
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Speaker 1: television set, I could see how uncomfortable arch Manning was,

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Speaker 1: And I said, if I was Ryan Day, I would

657
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Speaker 1: have just told I would have gotten on my heads

658
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Speaker 1: and said, guys, this is bad field position. Get out

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Speaker 1: of here. Let's not take big swings. Did you find

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Speaker 1: yourself because of the situation you were in offensively that

661
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Speaker 1: yet that maybe you did get a little bit more

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Speaker 1: conservative with Julian, say in your quarterback, just because you

663
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Speaker 1: were pinned, but Patricia was giving Arch in Texas fits.

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Speaker 1: Did you find yourself, you know, changing things in game.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Well, we had a large call sheet, and on

666
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Speaker 10: that call sheet was a bunch of different continuency plans,

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Speaker 10: you know if if you know, it's a high scoring game,

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Speaker 10: if we go up by a score, if we go

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Speaker 10: down by a score. We felt like, you know, there

670
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Speaker 10: was a point where we were fairly you know, in

671
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Speaker 10: control of the game. We had that long drive, I

672
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Speaker 10: think we had over eight minutes we scored. I felt

673
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Speaker 10: like the defense was playing well and we were pinned.

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Speaker 10: We got to do a better job of that. You know,

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Speaker 10: in field position. You know, we have to find ways

676
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Speaker 10: not to get pinned inside our ten yard line. Now,

677
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Speaker 10: different situation, as you know, Julian, you know matures. You know, well,

678
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Speaker 10: we'll start, you know, opening it up. But we didn't

679
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Speaker 10: want to turn the ball over down there and put

680
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Speaker 10: our defense in a bad spot. And that's one of

681
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Speaker 10: the first things in our plan to win is play

682
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Speaker 10: great defense. And a part of playing great defense is

683
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Speaker 10: sometimes making sure you play the field position game. Now,

684
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Speaker 10: we don't love that, you know, in terms of you know,

685
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Speaker 10: we want to be explosive, we want to open this

686
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Speaker 10: thing up, We want to score a ton of points,

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Speaker 10: which which you know, but at the end of the day,

688
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Speaker 10: the number one goal in a game.

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Speaker 6: Like this was to win.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think when you have a player like Jeremiah Smith,

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Speaker 1: who is so sensational, and I've said this about the

693
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Speaker 1: NFL sometimes that young quarterbacks, you know, Dak Prescott goes

694
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Speaker 1: to the Cowboys with Dez Bryant, and you want to

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Speaker 1: get in the ball. You feel almost guilty if you don't.

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Speaker 1: And when you have a player like you, guys are

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Speaker 1: basically wide receiver. University in America is Ohio State and

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Speaker 1: you have so many gifted receivers and you have such

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Speaker 1: a gifted quarterback. Do you find yourself because I thought

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Speaker 1: your team was very physical, and to me, Ohio State football,

701
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Speaker 1: it's physical football. How do you balance the You know,

702
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Speaker 1: we can do fast and finesse, we can be really pretty,

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Speaker 1: but that's not necessarily what one this weekend. This weekend

704
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Speaker 1: was toughness and physicality. Is that a tough balance for

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Speaker 1: you with the quality of perimeter stars you have.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think you always have to build an identity

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Speaker 10: with every team that you have, and we wanted to

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Speaker 10: build that identity early on.

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Speaker 6: Is that we were going to play physical.

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Speaker 10: We were going to play downhill, The running backs were

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Speaker 10: going to get downhill, and guys were going to finish

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Speaker 10: around the ball.

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Speaker 6: I think you saw a lot of that. Can we

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Speaker 6: get better?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely do We have a long way to go, for sure,

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Speaker 10: But I think once you build that foundation with the

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Speaker 10: type of receivers and skill that we have, and as

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Speaker 10: the quarterback continues to build confidence, that's where when you

719
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Speaker 10: can do both well. You can get ugly fours and

720
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Speaker 10: you can get dirty, and you can score in the

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Speaker 10: red zone and convert on short yardage because there was

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Speaker 10: a short yardage situation we didn't we didn't convert.

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Speaker 6: On early in the game, like we got to do that.

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Speaker 10: But then you also can spread it out and get

725
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Speaker 10: the ball to your playmakers and play in an open game.

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Speaker 10: That's when you have a chance to win championships. And

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Speaker 10: that's the goal, the goals and just to win the

728
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Speaker 10: first game. It's to win championships down the road to.

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Speaker 2: Build What is.

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Speaker 1: You know when you hired Chip Kelly, who is your

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Speaker 1: longtime friend, and you know he brings some NFL but

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Speaker 1: college is different. We saw Belichick struggle last night. Is

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Speaker 1: it when you listen because you're you're the CEO of

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Speaker 1: this program?

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Speaker 3: Is this going to be a trend?

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Speaker 1: I like the idea that years ago, I felt like

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Speaker 1: college and pro football Ryan were totally different sports, and

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that now. I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like Chip works either way. I'm watching Matt Patricia that

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Speaker 1: clearly worked. Is do you think this will start a trend?

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Speaker 1: Because I was always kind of cynical on these NFL

742
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Speaker 1: g coming to college they'd be impatient.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It feels like it kind of works

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Speaker 3: to me.

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Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of things that come into play,

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Speaker 6: and I agree with you. I think that's absolutely the case.

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Speaker 10: I think the game, first off, is much more similar

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Speaker 10: to the NFL. Now, you know, the hash marks are different,

749
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Speaker 10: and that is significant. But the way the clock moves

750
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Speaker 10: now after every first down, the clock used to stop.

751
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Speaker 10: Now that only happens inside of two minutes, so the

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Speaker 10: games go quicker. Second thing that's different is now that

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Speaker 10: we can go coach to player communication. You're seeing the

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Speaker 10: huddle more so the games and the number of plays

755
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Speaker 10: has shrunk way down. And then when it used to

756
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Speaker 10: be tempo where there was eighty five ninety plays, that

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Speaker 10: was a different style of game where everything was spread out.

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Speaker 10: I don't think you're seeing it as spread out as

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Speaker 10: it used to be. And then you take all the

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Speaker 10: things that are going on off the field with salary

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Speaker 10: caps and il in terms of you know, the way

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Speaker 10: you structure your staff, unlimited coaches. That's why I think

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Speaker 10: you're seeing a lot more similarities. And then also the

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Speaker 10: play I mean that's different. And when you go to

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Speaker 10: the playoffs now that's that you have to be playing

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Speaker 10: your best football at the end of the season, where

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Speaker 10: in the past when it was just you know, a

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Speaker 10: fourteen playoff or even before that.

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Speaker 1: That was a whole different dynamic. Well, that was fun

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Speaker 1: to watch. I got to tell you that it's sixteen news.

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Speaker 1: I think you have sixteen News starters, don't you? Was

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Speaker 1: it sixteen?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, we we last year when we finished the season,

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Speaker 10: I think it was just under seven hundred starts with

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Speaker 10: the twenty two that started like under their belt, and

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Speaker 10: I think going into this game we were under two hundred,

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Speaker 10: so it was it was significant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, hey, congrats, that was fun. It's always fun to win,

780
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Speaker 1: but that was really fun. That was a big stage.

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Speaker 10: Coach, congrats, Well it was good for college football, you know,

782
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Speaker 10: open up something like that.

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Speaker 6: The stadium, the atmosphere was tremendous.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable, all the all the big dogs delivered. Ryan Day,

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Speaker 1: Ohio State congratulates. Oh by the way, Julian sand One

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Speaker 1: more question. Because he's a young kid and I'd only

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Speaker 1: watched him on YouTube. I thought, you know, I love

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Speaker 1: the core, back position, the feet, the mechanics. What was

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Speaker 1: your takeaway when it was when you're walking back to

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Speaker 1: the locker room you put your arm around him. What

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Speaker 1: do you say about his opening performance?

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Speaker 10: I think the first thing is when you have young quarterbacks,

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Speaker 10: you asked him what did you see, and when they

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Speaker 10: can come over and tell you what they saw, and

795
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Speaker 10: then you watch the iPad after that drive and it

796
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Speaker 10: is exactly what he saw. That's a heck of it.

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Speaker 10: That's a great start. Like you said, I thought his

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Speaker 10: feet moved well. I thought he was accurate with the ball.

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Speaker 10: He made a couple off schedule plays, and then he

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Speaker 10: threw the ball away and took care of it. We

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Speaker 10: needed to again, all good starts, long way to go,

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Speaker 10: but we could work with that.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, Ryan, appreciate it.

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Speaker 6: You got to contac here man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, by the way of all the young quarterbacks, I

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Speaker 1: would say Julian saying now he was at home. But

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked really comfortable. I thought car CJ.

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Speaker 1: Carr for Notre Dame had some moments. He made a

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Speaker 1: throwout in the flat with a Miami Hurricane standing there

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Speaker 1: that eventually got bounced around and intercepted. Garrett Nusmeyer again,

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Speaker 1: a lot of snaps. He looked good. So experience matters. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought last night Hoover, the quarterback for TCU, goes

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Speaker 1: on the road. He's a third year starter. I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's a great NFL prospect. He's got a lot

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Speaker 1: of snaps, a familiar coaching staff. So I thought Julian

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Speaker 1: saying in a way it benefited him. The whole discussion

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Speaker 1: was arch Manning and he could just go out and

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Speaker 1: play with a more experienced ow line, and I thought,

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Speaker 1: I thought he looked really comfortable.

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Speaker 8: Not to be negative, but who was more disappointing, Cad

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Speaker 8: Klubnick or arch Manning because Kate Klubnick's been around the

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Speaker 8: block and for him to just do nothing, I mean

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Speaker 8: he missing guys white open.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I thought Garrett Nussmeier had. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was excellent.

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Speaker 8: He looks like a pro. Now we know the lineage.

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Speaker 8: Obviously he's good. Albert Breers hyped him up. But Clubnick

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Speaker 8: was just extremely disappointing. Colin, I'll say this, Carson Bex

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Speaker 8: looks like a totally different play.

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Speaker 1: For the record, Mario Cristobal, Miami's coach is an offensive

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Speaker 1: line guy.

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Speaker 3: Miami has built an whole line.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that is Penn State and Miami may have the

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Speaker 1: two best old lines in the country. Because Notre Dame.

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Speaker 1: They there four man their four down linemen. They didn't

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Speaker 1: get any rush all Carson Beck's was totally in a groove.

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Speaker 8: One other thing on Arch, I totally missed this. I

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Speaker 8: don't remember anybody talking about this. They lost Golden to

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Speaker 8: the draft and Bond to the draft, two great receivers.

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Speaker 8: Remember when Beck at Georgia lost Brock Bowers and Lad

841
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Speaker 8: McConkey came back and was like, oh what is this?

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Speaker 8: That maybe hurt Arch Banning and I didn't really play

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Speaker 8: that in in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Also, four new offensive linemen cohesion. That's a tough unit

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Speaker 1: on the road. I mean, go look at texas As schedule.

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Speaker 1: Three blowout wins coming. Yes, they got some confidence building

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Speaker 1: around the corner in Austin,