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Speaker 2: An office, a regular job from Monday to Friday for

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Speaker 3: Tgif means, yes, because seriously, I didn't even know what

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Speaker 2: Oh thank god, it's Friday.

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Speaker 4: You thought it was like only a restaurant.

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Speaker 2: What is the weekend? Well, I mean think about it.

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Speaker 5: here on Amazon Prime. This is an Amazon's new sports

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Speaker 3: it's from five to six every every weekday on Prime Video.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of ding dong.

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Speaker 3: Gratulation, Thank you, thank you, and please every one of us,

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Speaker 4: Right now. Similarly, Liz Cully are a very good friend

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Speaker 5: Spots and no, no, no cultural appropriation, please, no, please no, please.

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Speaker 2: Respect for them.

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Speaker 5: Well, I kind of want to end because I need

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Speaker 5: to let you go and get prepped for your show.

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Speaker 5: But I kind of want to end on this notion,

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Speaker 5: especially as the year ones down. We'll probably have another

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Speaker 5: episode maybe two.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah year.

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Speaker 5: But you know, one of the things that you just

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Speaker 5: said about passion. And you know, when we were talking

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Speaker 5: at dinner last night about you know, Serena.

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Speaker 4: Probably being retired.

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Speaker 2: No, it probably is.

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Speaker 5: Well sure, but my point is, like the fact that

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Speaker 5: there's even a question mark probably has to do with

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Speaker 5: a little bit of a you.

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Speaker 3: Know, just got her pictures of her paintings in the

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Speaker 3: National Portrait Gallery, showed.

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Speaker 4: Out to the National Portrait Gallery.

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Speaker 5: But I think, like, you know, she has credibly been

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Speaker 5: a threat for so long. She's credibly been you know,

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Speaker 5: somebody who you just absolutely can't count out even now.

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Speaker 4: Although yeah, you're probably right.

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Speaker 5: Because of the passion. Same thing with Rafa, Like Rafa

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Speaker 5: has got to have a passion. But I and I,

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Speaker 5: so I want to contrast that.

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Speaker 2: With somethinghich is why ash body stopped playing?

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Speaker 3: Right, the passion wasn't there anymore, Naomi Osaka, I'm doubting

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Speaker 3: the passion has ever been there. Yeah, I think she

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Speaker 3: had a lot of you know, push from her father

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Speaker 3: to play. I think it is probably one of the

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Speaker 3: reasons why she dropped that comment about you know, so

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Speaker 3: I wish I had parents that.

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Speaker 2: You know, could you know, might financially support me. Blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah, whatever it was, I can't remember verbatim, but.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that she's lacking that passion to get

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Speaker 3: out on the court anymore.

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Speaker 2: And I'm worried. I really really worry that she's going

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Speaker 2: to play again.

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Speaker 3: And I hope that's not the case, because you know,

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Speaker 3: you can make a lot of money, and she's made

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Speaker 3: enough money to never work a day in her life

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Speaker 3: ever again.

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Speaker 2: But you become very irrelevant if you're not doing the

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Speaker 2: sport that you're doing well. I think, I think at

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Speaker 2: some point, which is fine.

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Speaker 5: If the thing about her, and I've said this before,

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Speaker 5: like you know, everybody wants to see a happy, healthy

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Speaker 5: player absolutely, or if you're not going to be a happy,

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Speaker 5: healthy player like Ashbarty, go play some golf tournaments and

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Speaker 5: you know, be happy, have some bruise in the stands

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Speaker 5: watching other sports.

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Speaker 4: That's cool, it's great.

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Speaker 5: It seems like Ashburty is you who have learned how

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Speaker 5: to take care of her.

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Speaker 2: She didn't have passion for tennis. She has passion for

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Speaker 2: other things, so therefore she's left tennis.

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Speaker 5: Right. I think that's great. I'm fine, and I think

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Speaker 5: that's a good way to optimize. I worry with Naomi

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Speaker 5: and she has so many obligations and so many brand

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Speaker 5: stories that she's trying to tell, even in an era.

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Speaker 2: Where she's lost every identity.

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Speaker 5: It's more like, Okay, you're selling me all these products

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Speaker 5: all the time, and you're not and it's based on

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Speaker 5: how well you've played tennis.

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Speaker 4: Ye, and now you don't really play tennis, and it seems.

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Speaker 5: Like if you have to, you're like really upset about it.

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Speaker 5: Which again there's mental health stuff going on. She's talked

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Speaker 5: about it like you know, I'm not trying to pile on.

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Speaker 5: It's just more like it just peace out, like cut

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Speaker 5: your ties, like maybe set aside some of the additional

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Speaker 5: times tens of millions of dollars, go away, chill out,

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Speaker 5: get a different perspective, and if you find your way

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Speaker 5: back to it, well, she's a healthier, happier person.

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Speaker 4: Great.

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Speaker 3: But if I don't right now she hasn't played, but she's.

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Speaker 4: Still selling me all these products all the time.

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Speaker 2: You wanted to go away completely.

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Speaker 5: I want her to not look so miserable, and I

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Speaker 5: think whatever that takes, even if it's setting aside a

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Speaker 5: few bucks here or there, somebody's got to do it.

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Speaker 4: And maybe she can't do it for herself.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying she she never has to work another

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Speaker 5: day in her life, so I don't want to see

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Speaker 5: her smiling when she's trying to sell me something and

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Speaker 5: then looking like she wants to walk into traffic when

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Speaker 5: she plays tennis. That's what I don't want. I don't

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Speaker 5: want it for her, but I don't want it for me.

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Speaker 5: It's not a good experience for anybody.

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Speaker 4: Nobody wants to watch. You remember going to tournaments.

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Speaker 5: I certainly do when I was a kid, like seeing

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Speaker 5: the player who really didn't want to be there, regardless

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Speaker 5: of how talented they.

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Speaker 4: Were, and you're just kind of like, I've seen a

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Speaker 4: lot of them. You've seen a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and better.

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Speaker 4: I saw it a lot more, and I just it

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Speaker 4: always made me sad.

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Speaker 3: Like parents, make sure your kids happy doing the sport

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Speaker 3: that they love, and make sure no doing the sport

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Speaker 3: that you love, make sure they love it as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's really important. That's right.

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Speaker 3: Let's finish on great effort from eager Shoantek through the

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Speaker 3: whole year. Didn't win the WTA finals, but damn she

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Speaker 3: gave her best. And Caroline Garcia, Carol Caroline unbelievable effort from.

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Speaker 2: Her, just unbeatable indoors played unbelievable tennis.

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Speaker 4: That incredible is pretty fun.

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Speaker 5: The final between it was I love Arena because I

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Speaker 5: just love the meatheads.

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Speaker 4: She's swinging for the fences.

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Speaker 5: You go, Caroline stepping in ten feet taking the ball

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Speaker 5: on the rights like she's savoring, like every point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great.

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Speaker 2: She's savoring, but with a swing.

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Speaker 5: She's favoring. With a swing, you got Arena swinging for

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Speaker 5: the fencers.

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Speaker 2: Everybody be interesting to see. Listen.

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Speaker 3: Eager is going to be the favorite for the UTRAI

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Speaker 3: and Open for sure, but she's never won the tournament.

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Speaker 2: She lost badly in the Semis last year to.

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Speaker 3: Danielle Animal the Animal Coins, So we'll see how she

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Speaker 3: handles it.

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Speaker 2: The pressure will be different down there this year.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a lot more on her shoulders as the dominant,

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Speaker 3: very dominant female player this year, So we'll see how

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Speaker 3: it goes.

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Speaker 2: But we're looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to my day here, my first day

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Speaker 3: on the job here at Prime Videos for Power Hour

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Speaker 3: five pm to six pm every day.

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Speaker 5: Five to six Eastern. He's listening to us in different

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Speaker 5: time zones set your alarms.

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Speaker 4: It's worth it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Eastern American time. Just my mum understands because she

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Speaker 2: seems to call me at three am still this day,

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Speaker 2: even though I've lived in this country for half my life.

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Speaker 4: Shout out is Mam.

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Speaker 2: Margaret, look at the phone. What time you can call me? Anyway?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us today, Caitlin. Thanks for coming into

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Speaker 2: the office. It's my friend.

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Speaker 4: Nice to see you.

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Speaker 3: Let's get it going at the desk job untell soon Bah,