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Speaker 1: This is what happens when the fourth Turning meets fifth

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Speaker 1: generation warfare.

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Speaker 2: A commentator, international social media sensation and former Navy intelligence veteran, This.

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Speaker 3: Is Human Events with your host Jack Posovic.

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Speaker 4: Christ Is King Marco Rubio appeared before Congress today answering

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Speaker 4: questions for the first time about the Trump administration's policy

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Speaker 4: toward Venezuela and how involved the US government and military

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Speaker 4: will be. The Secretary says they have had productive communication

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Speaker 4: with the Venezuelan government to stabilize the country, and he

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Speaker 4: now than before when deposed President Nicholas Maduro was in power.

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Speaker 5: I'm not here to claim to you this is going

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Speaker 5: to be easy or simple.

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Speaker 6: I am saying that in three and a half almost

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Speaker 6: four weeks, we are much further along on this project

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Speaker 6: than we thought we would be, given the complexities of it.

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Speaker 7: Going in to President Trump is now giving a dire

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Speaker 7: warning to Iranian leadership, writing on truth Social this morning

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Speaker 7: that a massive armada is heading towards Iran and is

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Speaker 7: ready to quote fulfill its mission with speed and violence

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Speaker 8: President Trump is turning up the heat on California's leaders

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Speaker 8: accusing Governor knus some in La Mayor Karen Bass of

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Speaker 8: botching the response to last year's catastrophic fires.

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Speaker 1: And tonight, the White House is taking matters into its

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Speaker 1: own hands with a new executive order aimed at speeding

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Speaker 9: New York Times reporting President Trump and Senate Minority Leader

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Speaker 9: Chuck Schumer are close to reaching a deal to negotiate

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Speaker 9: possible new restrictions on immigration agents. It comes after Democrats

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Speaker 9: for homeland security amid outrage over the fatal shootings of

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Speaker 9: Alex Preddi and Renee Good by federal agents. Democrats are

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Speaker 9: demanding new rules on warrants and personal identification, and they

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Speaker 3: No more anonymous agents, no more secret operatives.

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Speaker 9: Meanwhile, new video appears to show Alex pretty eleven days

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Speaker 1: Well, Ladies and John, welcome on board today's edition of

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Speaker 1: Human Events Daily. We're here in back in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: And don't let our b roll deceive you, because it

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Speaker 1: is a snowy, icy, freezing cold Washington DC. The roads

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Speaker 1: you are terrible. I have no idea who's in charge

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Speaker 1: of this. It's absolute chaos on the streets. But one

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Speaker 1: thing where there's even more chaos is in the narrative

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Speaker 1: in minip list that it was completely shattered yesterday. Today

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Speaker 1: is January twenty nine, twenty twenty six. Anno Domini. Joining

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Speaker 1: me here in the studio is doctor Charles Cornersdale, aka

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Speaker 1: the raw egg Nationalist.

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Speaker 5: What's up brand?

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Speaker 3: It's great to be with you again, Jack, So let.

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Speaker 5: Me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: We see this video and guys, as we're chatting, you know.

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Speaker 5: Throw up the b roll a little bit of this.

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Speaker 1: This new video of Alex pretty brought to us, verified

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Speaker 1: by the BBC of all places.

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Speaker 5: You know, very strange there.

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Speaker 1: This completely destroys the narrative, doesn't it that they were

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Speaker 1: trying to say that this this this individual with some

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Speaker 1: the side of the angels, and so many people lied

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think we should.

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Speaker 10: I mean, it's it's yet again, it's vindication of our instincts,

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Speaker 10: our basic instincts.

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Speaker 10: We as soon as that first foot which came out

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Speaker 10: of the shooting, it's like, no, this this guy, this

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Speaker 10: obviously not just a bystander. He's obviously not just a

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Speaker 10: a woman who was being heinously attacked by you know,

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Speaker 10: by immigration agents. No, this is this guy is a

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Speaker 10: probably a professional to some degree, has probably done this

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Speaker 10: kind of thing before. Nope, it was denied until leftists

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Speaker 1: And there's something I'll say this to me, even in

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind that these agents are not going around

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Speaker 10: Well look, I mean with the Renny Good case, then

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Speaker 10: saw footage of Rene Good's wife saying, I didn't believe

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Speaker 10: you had real bullets. I thought you didn't have real bullets.

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Speaker 10: They're there to escalate, of course, they're there to escalate.

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Speaker 10: They want to escalate, but at the same time, they

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Speaker 10: And so yeah, I mean, you know you've been nosed

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Speaker 1: You know, smell to smell right back, hold that, But

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Speaker 1: But these people when you look at the signal chats,

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Speaker 1: Alex Pretty who comes there a member. We were told originally,

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Speaker 1: What is going on in Minnesota? Why didn't Tim Walls

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course they're protecting these people.

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Speaker 10: And I think you know when you said, who was that, like,

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Speaker 10: It's exactly the same language. And what did Joseph Rosenbaum do.

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Speaker 5: Which, by the way, not very far from Minneapolis.

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Speaker 10: Exactly. No, I mean, this is all it's all linked.

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Speaker 10: way actually that the Democrat Party and the left, the

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Speaker 10: and that is what they are.

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Speaker 10: There was a there was a thread on Twitter actually

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Speaker 5: Right back, Jack Psoviac Human Events Daily.

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Speaker 11: Influences. These are influences and they're friends of mine. Jack

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Speaker 1: would it surprise you? And I don't know that we

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Speaker 1: have any evidence of this, but would it surprise you

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Speaker 1: if we found out that Alex Preddy was a vegan?

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Speaker 10: No, no, not at all, not at all. It's a

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Speaker 10: it's a surprising thing.

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Speaker 5: Because tell people what your book is and the thesis.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, So my book is called new book just come

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Speaker 10: outs called The Last Men, Liberalism and the Death of Masculinity,

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Speaker 10: and it's about testosterone and testosterone decline in particular. So

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Speaker 10: we're witnessing a kind of civilizational decline in testosterone levels

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Speaker 10: in recent decades, and it has very clear political implications,

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Speaker 10: and I unpack the political implications and talk about you know,

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Speaker 10: where we're heading in a with a society of increasingly

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Speaker 10: low testosterone men. But one thing that actually isn't appreciated

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Speaker 10: is that.

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Speaker 1: Well, so, so wait a minute, but isn't testosterone usually

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Speaker 1: associated with aggression? Aren't we told usually that people who

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Speaker 1: are at higher test misterone, have higher aggression, So how

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Speaker 1: can we associate violence with lower testosterone?

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Speaker 10: Well, this is the interesting thing because actually it's not

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Speaker 10: that simple. An estrogen, which is typically you know, seen

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Speaker 10: as the female hormone, actually has very important effects on

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Speaker 10: aggression as well. So there are these there are these

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Speaker 10: very funny studies of monkeys, for example, where they gave

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Speaker 10: male monkeys soy isoflav vones, which are estrogenic compounds in soy,

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Speaker 10: and it basically turned them into in monkeys. It basically

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Speaker 10: made them into these sort of passive, aggressive, nasty, sneaky monkeys.

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Speaker 10: They'd retreat from the rest of the troop and then

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Speaker 10: you know, launch a kind of vicious attack when the

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Speaker 10: rest of the troop weren't looking, or something like that.

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Speaker 10: So an estrogenic man actually can be more aggressive than

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Speaker 10: a man with testosterone. Now, a man with more testosterone

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Speaker 10: might be dangerous, but or more dangerous even and more

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Speaker 10: motivated whatever. But I think there's a difference between the

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Speaker 10: kinds of aggression that estrogen and testosterone.

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Speaker 1: It also seems like one is more spastic, one is

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Speaker 1: more randomized erratic yep, whereas emotional emotional.

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Speaker 5: Where ups and downs.

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Speaker 1: Where as testosterone that has more regulation, that has more

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Speaker 1: more balanced, more regularity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: And I mean I think probably a man who has

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Speaker 10: high testosterone is likely to feel more confident in himself.

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Speaker 10: You know, there's always an element actually with a lot

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Speaker 10: of this violence that actually it's men who I think

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Speaker 10: don't feel very confident about themselves and they want to

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Speaker 10: assert themselves. They want to, you know, I've got to

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Speaker 10: show I'm a man. I've got to you know, I've

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Speaker 10: got to be violent in order.

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Speaker 5: To over composition.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's over.

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Speaker 10: Compensation, and yeah, I wouldn't be so. I mean, it's

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Speaker 10: so funny, isn't it. You know these pictures that have

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Speaker 10: been used of Alex pretty that have been digitally alter.

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Speaker 5: They're actually has been mewing, and he's got a.

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Speaker 1: Jawline and more air and and and all of which

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Speaker 1: kind of goes to show you that what what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about in your book isn't some uh you know,

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Speaker 1: isn't some fantasy. We can see it play out in reality,

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Speaker 1: even on MSNBC or ms Now be right back, Jack,

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Speaker 1: the SBA road Nationalists here a Human Events Daily Special.

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Speaker 5: Guys coming up? Where's Jack?

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Speaker 8: Where is it Jack?

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Speaker 3: I want to see you.

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Speaker 10: Great job, Jack, Thank you, what a job you do.

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Speaker 7: You know, we have an incredible thing.

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Speaker 5: We're always talking about.

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Speaker 1: The fake news and demand, but we have guys and

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Speaker 1: these are the guys you're forgetting.

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Speaker 5: PUBLICISTI all right, Jack Pisobic.

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Speaker 1: We are back here Human Events Daily, 'ron real marcause

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Speaker 1: voys have got rawg Nationalists here live in studio. I

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Speaker 1: want to bring in now Will Chamberlain from the Article

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Speaker 1: three project, Will, how are you doing?

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Speaker 8: Great? Doing great? Good to be with you both so well.

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Speaker 1: This incredible vindication from local media in Minneapolis as well

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Speaker 1: as the BBC of all places, verifying that Alex pretty yes,

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Speaker 1: in fact, just like everyone said at the beginning, was

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Speaker 1: an agitator, was a disruptive, committed communist sympathizer, was very violent,

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Speaker 1: well armed with with law enforcement, with federal law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just something where the narrative has completely

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Speaker 1: been shattered that they were trying to erect that this

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Speaker 1: guy was just oh, some peaceful icy uners. There's AI

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Speaker 1: video now AI pictures going around not just look smaxing him.

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Speaker 5: As Ren was just talking about in the last.

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Speaker 1: Segment, we were talking about that they're trying to digitally

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Speaker 1: increase his testosterone levels.

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Speaker 5: But it's true, they're.

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Speaker 1: Trying to digitally increase his testosterone levels. But also they've

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Speaker 1: they've made videos of him helping out with veterans and

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Speaker 1: all the rest of it.

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Speaker 5: It's it's so ridiculous. Will I've got to ask.

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Speaker 1: You, though, why was it that so many people that

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Speaker 1: you know, nominally say, oh, I support you know, immigration restrictions,

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Speaker 1: and you know, I want to you know, decrease the

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Speaker 1: amount of legals in this country. But but but but

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Speaker 1: you know, this is just so icky, This is just

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Speaker 1: so wrong. You know, so many people immediately took the

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Speaker 1: side of the leftist agitator on this, and even by

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Speaker 1: the way, even Joe Rogan has come out now and

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Speaker 1: said that this guy, you know, was not doing what

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Speaker 1: he should have been, that he was acting irresponsibly. So

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Speaker 1: many people now are having to walk back statements. Certain

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Speaker 1: individual running around calling me a hypocrite, saying, oh, Jack.

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Speaker 5: Was just a peaceful guy. No, No, he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Now what is it will that that caused so many

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Speaker 1: people to just immediately have that knee jerk response be

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Speaker 1: so incredibly wrong?

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Speaker 8: So are you The question is are you vulnerable to

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Speaker 8: left wing agit prop? And you know, should you be?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 8: I mean there's people like Eric Erickson who have no

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Speaker 8: business being vulnerable to left wing agit prop. They've been

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Speaker 8: doing the Republican commentary game for decades now. It's kind

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Speaker 8: of embarrassing that they got caught up with it. There's

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Speaker 8: other people I'm thinking of, people like Dave Smith, kind

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Speaker 8: of more of the libertarian types. I was just call

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Speaker 8: out what I see. I think they have. They have

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Speaker 8: trouble reconciling in their minds the sort of what is

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Speaker 8: needed to actually restraint immigration in the United States with

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Speaker 8: their more broader pro adjet prop advocacy elsewhere in the world.

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Speaker 8: I think it's very difficult for them to reconcile. Like

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Speaker 8: for Day, from Day's respective, he's been buying into this

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Speaker 8: sort of Pollywood style ajet prop in Israel for for

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Speaker 8: years now, and now that the left in the United

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Speaker 8: States is doing what the Palestinians were doing in Gaza's,

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Speaker 8: he's not able to kind of reorient himself and realize that, oh, this,

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Speaker 8: this is ajut prop. This is all fake nonsense, and

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Speaker 8: you need to do that. And I think so much

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Speaker 8: had a very interesting It's like, you know, the right

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Speaker 8: wing Jews, of all the people who kind of messed

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Speaker 8: up here, the right wing Jews were like saw right

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Speaker 8: through this. Even even Joel Berry of all people, saw

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Speaker 8: right through this and was based on there and correct

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Speaker 8: on the subject. So it just goes to show there's

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Speaker 8: there's something to that.

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Speaker 5: Well, so will walk us through what what is agit prop?

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Speaker 1: You know, how is it that that agit prop you know,

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Speaker 1: is used just to sort of in a general science,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what the setting is.

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Speaker 8: So ajuve prop you're trying to you know, you're fighting

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Speaker 8: the legitimate authority, trying to provoke and confrontation with them,

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Speaker 8: and then when there's violence, you're you know, trying to

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Speaker 8: get it make propaganda out of it. So there you go,

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Speaker 8: agit agitation, propaganda prop. So that's what that is. That's

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Speaker 8: and really every one of these videoed interactions between these

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Speaker 8: antiva protesters in law enforcement is an attempt to create

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Speaker 8: useful adjet prop.

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Speaker 1: And so then let's go back to Rod Nationalist, because

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Speaker 1: how is it then that this type of ajet prop

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Speaker 1: has been used in the past, because we see it

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Speaker 1: over and over. It's like a you know, it's like

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Speaker 1: a like a pheromone goes out or something and the

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Speaker 1: media just immediately spreads it everywhere.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, well, look, I mean I think I think the

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Speaker 10: playbook is well established by now. We've seen the same

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Speaker 10: kinds of things happen. I mean, the great example, obviously,

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Speaker 10: the real example is George Floyd. It all comes back

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Speaker 10: to George Floyd in a sense. You know that that

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Speaker 10: worked so spectacularly well, the framing of the framing of

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Speaker 10: the narrative, the selective presentation of evidence, even though you know,

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Speaker 10: you could watch the video and make up your own mind,

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Speaker 10: the narrative was framed so well. The media got behind it,

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Speaker 10: the politicians got behind it, the celebrities, captains of industry,

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Speaker 10: basically the entire world got behind this narrative and it worked,

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Speaker 10: and it was basically a you know, a domestic Color

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Speaker 10: Revolution in the US, and so it's no surprise then

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Speaker 10: that they're deploying exactly the same tactics, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's worth remembering George Floyd happened during the first Trump presidency.

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Speaker 10: Trump was was in power. They can do these things

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Speaker 10: even when they're not formally in power. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's disappointing. It's very disappointing to see people who should

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Speaker 10: know better because we've seen this all before, We've seen

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Speaker 10: it happen. We've seen large parts of the George Floyd

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Speaker 10: narrative unravel too. You know a lot of people have

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Speaker 10: come around to the notion that maybe actually George Floyd

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Speaker 10: wasn't the saint who made, you know, the most amazing

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Speaker 10: banana and mayonnaise sandwiches that that the media.

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Speaker 1: However, I should ask, by the way, do we it

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Speaker 1: is possible at this point that he we may now

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Speaker 1: he may have actually been having the city dish of Minneapolis,

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Speaker 1: rice and bananas.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean, we learn a lot about what it

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Speaker 10: really means to be a Minnesotan.

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Speaker 3: It's it's rice.

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Speaker 5: And bananas, right, rice and bananas.

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Speaker 1: No, Will Chamberlain, let's let's you know, I want to

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Speaker 1: jump back on you and ask about this, because what's

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Speaker 1: really going on here, you know, and Temple massive credit

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Speaker 1: to him for coming up with the line. You know,

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Speaker 1: they say, oh, you guys are a bunch of boot liquors,

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Speaker 1: and he responds, he.

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Speaker 5: Said, no, we are the boot. We voted for this boot.

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Speaker 1: This is a huge difference between the conservative and libertarian

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Speaker 1: forms of philoso.

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Speaker 5: I would say, because.

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Speaker 1: We're in one hand it's saying, oh, we're going to

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Speaker 1: restrict government power and that's the way for the flourishment

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Speaker 1: of liberty. Whereas I think folks on the new right

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Speaker 1: this has been the new thinking to say, well, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, in the current situation, you know, we just

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Speaker 1: don't have the luxury of being able to do that.

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Speaker 1: We need to fix the site situation we're in now,

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Speaker 1: and then perhaps we can look at too other things.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think the defining ethos of the new

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Speaker 8: right is to use government power to achieve conservative ends,

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Speaker 8: and it's it's deeply anti libertarian in that respect. And

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Speaker 8: so I was actually thinking about this the other day.

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Speaker 8: There is a great piece from Paul Graham, who sucks

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Speaker 8: on politics generally, but he had a very interesting piece

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Speaker 8: about how experienced computer scientists think about the world. They

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Speaker 8: see things in the world that can be fixed, like

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Speaker 8: the way a carpenter sees like a broken hinge, a

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Speaker 8: computer scientist or a good computer coder sees problems in

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Speaker 8: the world and thinks, ah, I can use code to

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Speaker 8: fix that.

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Speaker 3: Well.

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Speaker 8: I think part of what we're doing is we're you know,

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Speaker 8: we're looking at the world and seeing ways law can

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Speaker 8: fix the problems we see from a conservative perspective, and

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Speaker 8: so we were perfectly willing to use law. We're perfectly

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Speaker 8: willing to come up with legal fixes and changes to

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Speaker 8: policy to do things like that. We don't have an

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Speaker 8: attitude towards government power that is reflexively against it, because

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Speaker 8: the idea is that a small government is a means,

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Speaker 8: not an end right. If the small government is the

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Speaker 8: means to human flourishing, it's not the be all, end

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Speaker 8: all of anything, and so there's going to be times

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Speaker 8: when government needs to act to achieve the goals of

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Speaker 8: human flourishing that we look for. There's a lot of

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Speaker 8: reasons why I think the libertarian philosophy is just ultimately

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Speaker 8: very simplistic and realize. So it's just it's like they

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Speaker 8: think they know the answer before they've ever done real

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Speaker 8: empirical analysis of what actually would work, because the answer

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Speaker 8: is always less government. And it's like, that's sort of

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Speaker 8: reflexive and dogmatic.

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Speaker 5: And I'll toss it back to ren here for a second.

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Speaker 1: So what happens if we say, oh, we shouldn't use

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Speaker 1: government power because what if the left uses it against

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Speaker 1: us in the future.

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Speaker 10: Well, what happens is that you end up disqualifying yourself,

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Speaker 10: up seeding power, allowing your enemies to become totally entrenched

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Speaker 10: in government, to become totally entrenched in the bureaucracy, all

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Speaker 10: the major institutions, the universities, all the institutions of public life,

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Speaker 10: and then potentially you're shut out from government for good.

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Speaker 10: And you know, maybe you end up lined up alongside

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Speaker 10: a trench in a field in the early hours of

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Speaker 10: the morning, waiting to be you know, shoveled into a

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Speaker 10: into a mass grave.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what happened at the end of the Spanish or

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Speaker 1: during i should say, the Spanish Civil War, when they

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Speaker 1: rounded up all of the Conservatives of Madrid and their children,

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Speaker 1: by the way, put them into mass prisons, and then

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Speaker 1: eventually led them, they told them they were being released,

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Speaker 1: and they walked them out to the mass graves.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the state, the states are that high. I don't.

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Speaker 10: We're not being hyperbolic here, it's not it's not silly

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Speaker 10: to look at past examples of conservative failure, past examples

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Speaker 10: of right wing failure, and say, look, we need to

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Speaker 10: learn from this, like we can't. Yes, we can, As

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Speaker 10: Will rightly said, you know, small government can be, and

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Speaker 10: inappropriate circumstances should be the means to an end, but

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Speaker 10: it's not the end in itself. And simply limiting ourselves

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Speaker 10: to not using this incredibly powerful apparatus of government that's

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Speaker 10: being used against us and has been used against.

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Speaker 1: Us, that's a recipe for failure. Will Chamberlain, where can

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Speaker 1: people follow you?

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Speaker 8: Follow you on ex at Wilt Chamberlain.

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Speaker 1: All right, right back with my favorite anti communist joining

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Speaker 1: us in a moment.

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Speaker 3: Jack is a great guy.

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Speaker 1: He's written that fantastic look and everybody's talking about it.

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Speaker 5: Go get it.

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Speaker 7: And he spent my friend right from the beginning of

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Speaker 7: this whole beautiful event, and we're going to turn her

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Speaker 7: around and make our country way to get the amen.

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Speaker 1: Jack soubigerback live here, with the raw Egg nationalists in

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Speaker 1: studio Human Events Daily. So I wanted to get on

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Speaker 1: because people are telling me, they say, oh, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, people are saying that the heavy handed tactics

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Speaker 1: of the administration, they're just getting too strong. It's getting

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Speaker 1: out of hand. You know, they've they've run their course.

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Speaker 1: So I said, all right, you know, let's get on.

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Speaker 1: Let's get on a female perspective. Someone who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: lives in the area not far away from the city

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Speaker 1: of Minneapolis. It is, of course my favorite anti communist

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Speaker 1: if he a duffy.

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Speaker 11: Hey, Jack, thanks so much for having me.

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Speaker 5: So let me ask you about this.

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Speaker 1: You're you and your husband, you're not far from uh

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Speaker 1: who's just on the show the other day, are not far.

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Speaker 5: Of course from Minneapolis. You've seen all of this.

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Speaker 1: You personally covered the riots in Kenosha. What is your

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Speaker 1: sense of these illegal raids? Where's gen Z at it?

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Speaker 1: When it comes to polling, you know, do they want

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Speaker 1: to see the mass deportations continue or do they want

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Speaker 1: a de escalation and some kind of pause.

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Speaker 2: So, first and foremost, there are millions of Americans across

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Speaker 2: the country who voted for President Trump, who voted therefore

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Speaker 2: for mass deportations and are being defrauded out of their

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Speaker 2: vote by psychopath Antifa Karens in Minneapolis. People in Saint

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Speaker 2: Croix County, which is twenty minutes for Minneapolis, voted for

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Speaker 2: President Trump. The people of the seventh District of Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: which borders Minnesota and therefore Minneapolis, voted overwhelmingly for President Trump.

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Speaker 2: We see the problems that Minneapolis lets in with their

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Speaker 2: toleration of illegal immigration.

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Speaker 11: Spill into our communities.

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Speaker 2: So because of bunch of crazy people in Minneapolis, encouraged

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Speaker 2: by the government, officials are trying to subvert the subvert

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Speaker 2: ice confront ice. We don't have a country anymore that's

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Speaker 2: completely unjustified. And gen Z, I mean, it's fascinating. You're

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Speaker 2: seeing a lot of young people confront ice in the streets.

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Speaker 2: But I also noticing a lot of millennials. If you

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Speaker 2: ask young conservative gen Zers, immigration is the number one

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Speaker 2: or two issue, and that's because mass immigration devalues American labor.

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Speaker 2: No one is hurt more by the devaluation of American

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Speaker 2: labor than young Americans. So this is a winning issue

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Speaker 2: for young people, for Republicans, for Trump, and I hope

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Speaker 2: they stick with it.

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Speaker 1: And so the question I suppose is more I guess now,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you the question of like the optics.

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Speaker 1: You know, are there some people who say, well, the

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Speaker 1: optics aren't aren't good. We don't want to see this.

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Speaker 1: We want to get rid of Bovino, we want to

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Speaker 1: get rid of these these raids, these sweeps, and they

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Speaker 1: would prefer it to be done in some I don't know,

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Speaker 1: magical fantasy wave a magic wand and they all go home.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're making it that way, Jack, I mean that

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Speaker 2: this is the it's it's being present self presented as

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Speaker 2: as horrific as a Nazi regime, right this, I mean,

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Speaker 2: and you guys talked about this a little bit before,

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Speaker 2: the way that they are lying about the wait.

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Speaker 1: Via to give you a pause on that, because Stephen

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Speaker 1: Colbert says, we're not allowed to call them Nazis anymore

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Speaker 1: because that would be offensive to the Nazis.

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Speaker 2: Where are Jewish Americans need to come out and and

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Speaker 2: and and rebuke it. I mean, it's it's it's absurd

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Speaker 2: that we're gonna say Ice is worse than the Nazis,

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Speaker 2: Like what are what are we even doing right now?

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Speaker 11: And of course the left always gets away with that

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Speaker 11: kind of rhetoric.

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Speaker 2: They always paint people who are agitators who are breaking

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Speaker 2: the law as somehow victims. That's the migrants, that's also

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Speaker 2: the radical lefties who are confronting ice in these cities.

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Speaker 11: They did it with with George Floyd.

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Speaker 2: They also did it with Jordan Neely, if you remember,

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Speaker 2: that was an incredible altercation with Jordan Neely and a

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Speaker 2: and a and a young former former veteran.

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Speaker 11: He was presented as a as a child, as a

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Speaker 11: young black out.

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Speaker 2: No, the guy was a man, a black male man

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Speaker 2: who was schizophrenic, had a history of drug abuse, clearly

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Speaker 2: was having an episode. They lie about these situations all

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Speaker 2: the time to garner sympathy for the agitators, for the criminals,

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Speaker 2: and the victims are always always law abiding citizens.

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Speaker 1: Well, and you see this again and again take place

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Speaker 1: rog nationalists. Throw it to you for a second, because

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Speaker 1: this is a form of anarcho tyranny, isn't it. What

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Speaker 1: is anarchotyranny?

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Speaker 10: Well, anarco tyranny is a term that Sam Francis came

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Speaker 10: up with in I think nineteen ninety one nineteen ninety

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Speaker 10: two to describe the way in which chaos is controlled,

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Speaker 10: directed weaponized by government against the citizens in order in

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Speaker 10: order to control them basically, you know, so what you

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Speaker 10: have is you have low level crime is tolerated and encouraged.

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Speaker 10: Criminals are given lenient prison sentences or just let off

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Speaker 10: altogether as a way actually of maintaining this kind of

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Speaker 10: endemic crime, terrorizing the kind of the middle classes, in particular,

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Speaker 10: squeezing the tax paying classes harder and harder.

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Speaker 3: And basically kind of scaring them straight. And it's something

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Speaker 3: that I mean, you can.

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Speaker 10: Think of untold examples in America today, it's a very

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Speaker 10: very pervasive way.

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Speaker 1: Let's just use the example that Ivida Duffy is talking about,

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Speaker 1: because she's saying that you have these millions of tax paying,

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Speaker 1: middle class Trump voters who are now being disenfranchised because

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Speaker 1: of the chaos that is being used. The Karens who

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Speaker 1: are against suburban moms who have been so radicalized that

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Speaker 1: they're willing to conduct Isis style vehicular assaults on federal officers.

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Speaker 1: This is a serious issue and the radicalization of suburban

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Speaker 1: women in America absolutely needs to be studied. But what

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Speaker 1: Avida is talking about is how the government doesn't seem

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Speaker 1: to do anything, or at least the local government doesn't

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Speaker 1: seem to do anything about these types of criminals, whether

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Speaker 1: they be the Jordan Neely's, whether they be the or

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Speaker 1: this Alex pretty who again is on video. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to keep saying this, and the left is really mad

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Speaker 1: at me online for saying it. He was on video

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Speaker 1: committing crime, and the state of Minnesota, the city of

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Speaker 1: Minneapolis did absolutely nothing to him. They did not revoke

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Speaker 1: his concealed carry permit. So if there were or even

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Speaker 1: face charges as far as we're told, because there was

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Speaker 1: no criminal history whatsoever, Avida, This is exactly what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about, isn't it. This is how the people in

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Speaker 1: power squeeze out the middle class by using these agitators,

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Speaker 1: using this criminal class at the bottom, and then essentially

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Speaker 1: giving them a free pass.

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Speaker 11: This is so key, Jack.

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Speaker 2: The violence and the chaos us is intentional, and it's

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Speaker 2: not being caused by ice. It's being encouraged by Democrat leadership.

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Speaker 2: Just a few years ago, we saw this in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty out of maskal I was on the ground in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 2: Governor Tony Evers sent more National Guardsmen to a Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: Bucks game than he did. On the first night of

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Speaker 2: rioting in Kenosha, he let the city burn for three

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Speaker 2: days before he accepted federal help from President Trump. He

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Speaker 2: did that on purpose, because he believed that the riots

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Speaker 2: were politically beneficial For Democrats, it's always intentional. They always

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Speaker 2: use fear to try and strangle law abiding citizens out

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Speaker 2: of justice, out of law and order, out of what

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Speaker 2: they voted for, which is, of course President Trump and

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Speaker 2: mass deportations.

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Speaker 1: And I'll toss it back to Rod nashlist. So, when

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Speaker 1: you're in a situation like this, how do you get

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Speaker 1: through it? How do you overcome it? How do you

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Speaker 1: as as a citizenry, how do you stand up to

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Speaker 1: the adjuc prop.

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Speaker 10: Well, I mean I certainly know what you what you

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Speaker 10: don't do as an administration. You don't back down. I

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Speaker 10: don't think you can back down from this kind of violence.

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Speaker 10: I mean, there are different ways to handle it, certainly,

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Speaker 10: and there are better and there are worse ways. And

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Speaker 10: we've been talking a little bit about optics, and of

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Speaker 10: course you want to avoid government agents, federal agents, immigration agents,

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Speaker 10: killing people. I'm not saying it wasn't justified, but it does.

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Speaker 10: It does look bad. And if you can avoid that

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Speaker 10: kind of stuff, then obviously you would want to. But nevertheless,

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Speaker 10: you can't be seen to back down in the face

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Speaker 10: of this, because of course you're sending signals. You're sending

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Speaker 10: a very clear signal. You back down, you withdraw ice,

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Speaker 10: you you know, you you come back off the streets. Okay, No,

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Speaker 10: we're not going to deport people anymore. What does the

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