WEBVTT - Episode 482 w/ Bryson Tiller 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.920 He is drinks chests, motherfucking podcast makes. He's a legends 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:18.239 every queens rapper. He ain't agreed as your boy in 0:00:18.360 --> 0:00:21.200 O r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What 0:00:21.400 --> 0:00:24.000 ups d j e f N? Together they drink it 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:26.400 up with some of the biggest players you me and 0:00:26.480 --> 0:00:31.000 the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:34.920 for drunk drinks chans mother Postcavery Days New Years. See listen, 0:00:34.960 --> 0:00:43.920 It's time for drink Champs. Drink up mother. Would it 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:45.720 gonna be hoping people to this year? Boy n A 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.199 O n A A. What up is dj e f N? 0:00:48.360 --> 0:00:51.640 It's mill Tammy crazy boar drink Champs yep makes something. 0:00:56.960 --> 0:01:00.320 Now when we talk about this person, we talk about 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:05.080 a person who makes hits, give out hits, fifteen million 0:01:05.160 --> 0:01:10.520 sold in your face, and he don't even be liking 0:01:10.560 --> 0:01:12.959 to be in front of the public. He don't even care. 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:19.039 He just makes hits for any reason. We are gonna 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:24.199 give him his flowers today. He deserves it, from being 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:26.240 in front of the camera to behind the camera to 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:30.479 he makes your your favorite artist a better artist because 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.760 he's been pinting this ship for allbody. And in case 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.720 you don't know what we're talking about. My mother, Oh 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:41.520 do you bring your mother? Listen, listen to my brother. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.880 I want to get straight to the interview, because silu man, 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:49.240 I've been doing this, what. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.560 Ten years, about about to be ten years. 0:01:52.480 --> 0:01:55.000 So I first off, let me, let me let me 0:01:55.040 --> 0:01:57.840 pick you up for being on time. I bet against you. 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:00.240 I bet that you would not be on time. So 0:02:00.280 --> 0:02:04.320 that's what we do. We we based it on with 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:08.240 the artist uh order, Like we know if anybody order 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.080 hey and see, it's gonna be a different interview. 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:10.600 Right. 0:02:11.919 --> 0:02:15.000 We know patroll like certain things. But when you ordered 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:17.120 as the Spade, I was like, it's gonna be smooth, 0:02:17.240 --> 0:02:19.560 that's one. But I said, he's going to show up late. 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:23.480 But but so I I I lost on the show 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:23.880 up lay and. 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:25.400 We showed them and we showed up. We sucked up. 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:26.320 So we apologize. 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.280 So like I said, I was trying to point. I 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:30.560 was trying to make I've been We've been doing this 0:02:30.600 --> 0:02:33.760 almost ten years, right, and when I go through the 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:39.520 discovery of an artist. That's one of the thing, yo, bro, 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:44.680 you really are hate maker? Like is that something that 0:02:44.720 --> 0:02:48.120 you you you you set out to be or that's 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:49.600 something that just comes naturally for you. 0:02:50.680 --> 0:02:53.160 Uh. I definitely got to say I set out to 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:54.920 be in for show. You know. In the beginning, I 0:02:55.000 --> 0:03:01.160 was like, I had this whole alias called pan Griffy. Yeah. Yeah, 0:03:01.200 --> 0:03:04.720 you get as many hits as Bro. But somebody just 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.600 told me something about it hit today and I was like, 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.240 I was in the studio session. It was like, do 0:03:09.240 --> 0:03:11.320 you know why they started calling it it hit? I 0:03:11.360 --> 0:03:12.840 was like, dang, I never even thought about that. It 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:15.760 was something that you know, hits whoever's listening to it, 0:03:15.760 --> 0:03:17.440 they was in the meeting or whatever, And I was like, Damn, 0:03:17.800 --> 0:03:19.880 I guess that's really what it is with somebody, you 0:03:19.919 --> 0:03:22.160 know what I mean, Like somebody just feels it like 0:03:22.360 --> 0:03:25.880 it's them, you know, the resonates, you know, even if 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:28.400 the song never really charted, you know or whatever, it 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.080 doesn't matter. Like a bunch of people in my concert 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.600 singing it hit to me, you know absolutely. 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.560 What's the song that you made for somebody else that 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:37.560 you regret. 0:03:37.840 --> 0:03:40.560 That I regret for somebody else? What do you mean 0:03:40.600 --> 0:03:41.080 like you. 0:03:41.600 --> 0:03:43.080 Would have wanted to keep it for you, You wanted 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:43.840 to keep it for yourself? 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.520 Oh, like something that I wrote? Yeah? Uh, I mean 0:03:47.520 --> 0:03:49.320 I don't really got I don't got too many under 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.120 my goat. Okay, it gave to somebody else. Okay, because 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:53.000 for me is. 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.200 I don't know if you heard this record, but uh 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:01.440 uh you know Jacob give you heard that record that 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.640 that used to say that dude, and I gave that 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:06.360 ship away and I regret that. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:09.480 So you don't have one of those? Na Okay, okay, 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:11.960 So let's get to it. Louisville. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:16.560 How did how did how did because we're here we 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.240 see Rich hit there? How did how did? How did 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:21.480 that happen? How did that connection happen? I know Timberland, 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:23.400 So how did how did this happen? 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:28.320 My guy King King, He's from Miami, Miami based. He 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:30.479 knew a couple of people that knew Rich and I 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:32.400 think they was they might have been playing some video 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.480 games or something. You know, they was connected, interconnected somehow. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.120 And you know, Rich called Window my music and thought 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.360 I was super talented, and you know, I think I was. 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:44.800 I was working at UPS when I first met Rich, 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.200 when I first started talking to Rich, and you know, 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:49.840 I remember they told me they was going to New 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:53.599 York with Timbling to work on Magna Carter Holy Girl, 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.920 the album. You know, they invited me up to New York. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:57.080 So I was like, oh, yeah, I want to go 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:57.560 to New York. 0:04:57.600 --> 0:04:59.640 Yeah, so didn't tell you to quit your job or 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:00.120 some ship. 0:04:59.920 --> 0:05:05.039 Like That's that was years later. Okay, yeah, yeah, you 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:08.280 just talked about about when I met Rich, you know 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.599 what I mean? But yeah, I met I met, I 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.240 flew up to New York. That was my first time 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.599 in New York. I was just so you met Rich first. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.680 I met Rich and this producer that he was working 0:05:18.720 --> 0:05:21.680 with and who was I think signed to Timblin after 0:05:21.800 --> 0:05:26.200 this producer. So we went up there and uh yeah, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:27.720 yeah he was in there. I wasn't evenly supposed to 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.120 be there here. You know, he said what up to 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:30.520 me a couple of times. I think, my boy Rich 0:05:30.760 --> 0:05:32.680 Timberland probably don't even know this, but Rich like he 0:05:32.760 --> 0:05:35.479 snuck a picture in me Timbo in the studio and 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.360 I was like, he said it to me. I was like, yo, 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.240 that's crazy, Like me and Timblin like that's a big 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.520 deal where you know. You know, I got back home 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.040 to Louisville and he wasn't even really at that time, 0:05:46.120 --> 0:05:47.919 I didn't really have nothing to really show for us. 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.680 I didn't. I really shouldn't have been in the room, 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:52.280 you know, if I'm being honest. But anyways, I got 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.640 back to Louisville and I remember posting a picture that 0:05:54.720 --> 0:05:57.640 the one that Rich sent me, and I was just like, yo, man, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:00.160 I ain't saying that next year is my time. More 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:01.800 the year after that's my time. But I'm just saying 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:04.440 my time is coming. That was yeah, that was the caption, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.760 and I remember everybody was hitting me up and then 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:09.560 once one person hit me up and was you know, 0:06:10.040 --> 0:06:12.800 I mean I'm going off on the deep end. Yeah. Anyways, 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:15.279 one person hit me up and was just like, Yo, 0:06:15.560 --> 0:06:17.200 you know, we gotta you know, we gotta. We got 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.400 a contract, we got an agreement, so you can just 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:20.920 you know, he thought I was signing to Tim with 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:22.480 something that wasn't even the case. I was just posting 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.919 a pick. So I was like, I was like, what 0:06:24.960 --> 0:06:26.440 are you saying? Like he was like, I'm saying that, 0:06:26.520 --> 0:06:28.080 like we got to figure something out. But he had 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:30.680 previously agreed to release me from this contract he was 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:34.920 talking about. But seeing that picture with change everything, he 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.919 knew something that's about to come, you know, come from that. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:38.920 Even though he didn't believe in me. But at first, 0:06:39.400 --> 0:06:42.119 like after that he said that, and I was pissed. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:43.800 I was like, oh no, I said, you know what, Bro, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:46.160 I said, I'll never make music ever again. I said, 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:47.920 I'm gonna just go work at ups and just keep 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.200 doing what I was doing the first You got it, bro, 0:06:50.279 --> 0:06:52.839 I'm good, you know what I mean. You know, he 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.920 was trying to see if I was bluffing. I wasn't bluffing. 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:56.960 I was doing that for about two years, two three 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:01.960 years or something like that. After that, you know, I 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.800 hit rock bottom. I was like, I can't do this 0:07:04.880 --> 0:07:07.680 no more. Man Like, I struggling, I ain't got no money, 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:10.440 caught up a couple of people asking asking for bread. 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.280 You know, Rich used to send me bread too, you know, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.200 just stand on me out. But it was another guy, 0:07:14.200 --> 0:07:15.960 that chem dude. I was telling you, you know, I 0:07:16.040 --> 0:07:18.200 hit him up asking for some money, and he was like, bro, 0:07:18.280 --> 0:07:21.600 you gotta you gotta get back in that studio, so 0:07:21.840 --> 0:07:24.280 you know, you know, crying and ship and I was 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:25.520 just like, all right, you know, I'm gonna get back 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.120 to the studio. Literally. The first song that I made 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.800 was Stone so may you don't, yeah, don't. It was 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:32.960 the first song I made, uh, you know, and I 0:07:33.000 --> 0:07:35.800 was sitting on there for a little bit fast forward, 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:38.680 had it on SoundCloud. Uh you know, a couple of 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.760 people was rocking with it. I was a little embarrassed 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.360 about it for some reason because I hadn't did music 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:43.920 for so long, and I fel like nobody was hit 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.600 me up but talking about it. So I deleted it, 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:47.040 and then somebody hit me up. I was like, yo, 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:49.120 you gotta put that. You gotta put that back up online. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:50.680 So I was like, all right, bet, and I did, 0:07:51.120 --> 0:07:53.520 and it sounds correct, sound sound, and it just started 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.160 growing like week by week. I remember at this time, 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.080 I think I got a different job at Papa John. 0:07:58.240 --> 0:07:58.960 Papa John. Yeah. 0:07:59.040 --> 0:07:59.240 Yeah. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.160 I was going back to my locker and I'm just 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:03.440 like up there, you know, somebody's playing with you. You know, 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:04.840 what's kept going on? 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:09.080 Like thousands of ten doollars felt, yeah. 0:08:08.120 --> 0:08:11.600 What's happening? Like this is real viral and yeah for 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.080 real and this is before yeah, all of that. So yeah, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.480 at that point, then I got a call from Rich again. 0:08:18.880 --> 0:08:20.160 You know, I ain't talking to Rich in a little 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:22.200 minute at this point, but I got a call from Rich. 0:08:22.240 --> 0:08:24.040 He's like, yo, Timbo won't how at you? You know, 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.920 and this is the first time that I really seen 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.480 Timbo show any interest in my music at all, because 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.760 you had played records before, yeah, a long time ago, 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:32.559 you know, because I heard you said you thought he 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.880 didn't like it. Yeah, I would say he didn't. He 0:08:35.880 --> 0:08:37.960 probably thought I was talented. But you know, if you 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.880 go back and listen to my ship from twenty eleven, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.720 you can understand why Timbland was like maybe he wasn't 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.080 ready and I wasn't ready, you know what I mean. 0:08:44.120 --> 0:08:46.560 I was, you know, development that makes perfect sense, you know. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.760 So at this point I like changed, excuse me, I 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:53.400 changed my sound up and you know, I had something 0:08:53.440 --> 0:08:55.000 to really grind for at that point, you know, I 0:08:55.000 --> 0:08:57.480 had my daughter and everything was just different. I was like, 0:08:57.520 --> 0:08:58.800 you know what, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:01.480 too much of a sing singing, singing nas nigga, you 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:03.280 know what I'm saying, but just like kind of dumb 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:05.280 it down a little bit and mix it up with 0:09:05.320 --> 0:09:06.720 a little bit of rap, you know what I'm saying. 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.160 You know. Anyways, got the call from Timbo and then 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.520 it was like, Yo, come to come to Miami. You know, 0:09:11.600 --> 0:09:14.439 and that's that's when everything just went up. 0:09:14.400 --> 0:09:17.839 From ther Okay, so then when does Drake coming into 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:19.320 this this pitch? 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.360 I feel like every week something crazy what was happening. 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:24.559 So I can't really one hundred percent remember, but it 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.280 was definitely after the moment because like you know, you 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.200 heard that story was the clips, but it was definitely 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.040 after that. When I was back in Louisville now at 0:09:32.080 --> 0:09:34.360 this point, jobless, trying to figure out what I was 0:09:34.360 --> 0:09:34.560 going to. 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:39.199 Do next, said put your job. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.920 never he never said that, right, yeah he did that. 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:43.240 Yeah I think you said that. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.200 He said. He never said. I think you said you 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:50.520 called Rick. It's all good. We loved him, love it 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.600 don't matter, None of that matters. It was yeah, exactly. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:58.000 So I get back to louis woar, and I'm you know, 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.080 I'm stressed out, but the song is still climbing. People's 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:03.520 reaching out. And then it's crazy because I always had 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:08.480 these these wild ass manifestation dreams. And I was sleeping 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:10.960 at a friend's house on the couch because at this 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.840 point I moved out of my my girlfriend at the 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:16.120 Times house, and uh, you know, I'm still gonna sleeping 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.240 on this couch making music in the basement, trying to 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:21.360 like just keep my SoundCloud following fans happy. So I'm 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.760 just like update new ship and I think I just 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.080 put out a remix to a couple of OVERO because 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:27.160 a lot of people it was like, Yo, you need 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:28.800 to sign over yoh blah blah blah. They were saying 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.080 that one thought you was signed the over you was 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:33.400 before anything. So they was like, Yo, it sounded like 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:34.839 you should be a part of it, you know what 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:36.160 I mean. So I was like, dang, I mean I 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:39.080 really love and my everything that comes out of over YO. 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:40.760 So I was like, it makes sense. So one day 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.880 I just decided to remix uh some Ovio shit. I 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.640 think Macone was signed to O YO one time. Party 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.040 next Door was signed over or still signed over YO. 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.640 But I remixed their songs called Don't Worry Maley remix 0:10:53.440 --> 0:10:56.439 and I posted it and went to sleep or whatever. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.360 It was probably like a little bit later after this, 0:10:58.440 --> 0:11:00.920 but I remember I had this crazy, vivid dream that 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:02.880 I was on UK campus. You know, Drake Fun with 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.640 UK basketball, So you know I'm on this campus and 0:11:05.679 --> 0:11:07.920 then you know people they like, yo, bro, you know 0:11:08.000 --> 0:11:09.800 Drake's coming in town. You know we're gonna play this. 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.200 We're gonna play you don't for him and I was like, 0:11:12.240 --> 0:11:14.840 for real, it was like yeah. So then they in 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:17.200 the dream, they was like, I saw him in the huddle. 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:18.920 Drake was over in the huddle. They all had blue 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:23.560 jumpsuits on the ship and he was like and I 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:25.320 was like, damn. And then I remember waking up from 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:27.679 that dream, right, I swear to God, woke up from 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:32.840 that dream and literally I got checked my Twitter just 0:11:32.880 --> 0:11:35.200 said Drake followed you on Twitter. And I was like, 0:11:36.120 --> 0:11:39.040 I was like trying to dream, no, no, no, out 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.400 of the dreams, out of the dream, up out of 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:45.760 that dream. The very next morning, like and then woke 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.719 up and I saw that he followed me, and I said, yo, bro, 0:11:47.920 --> 0:11:50.640 this is this is crazy. Like I didn't even want 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.079 to get into the whole fact that I just had 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.559 a dream. Like I was like, Yo, this is more 0:11:55.600 --> 0:11:57.200 crazy than you think. He's like, yo, I've been working 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.480 with month. We don't months. And that just my mind 0:12:00.520 --> 0:12:02.440 because it's like in my dream that he was literally 0:12:02.480 --> 0:12:05.040 saying that he didn't he didn't okay. And I had 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:06.520 no idea that this was about the habit. It was 0:12:06.520 --> 0:12:08.720 just some crazy manifestation ship. I don't know, it's like 0:12:08.760 --> 0:12:11.440 God gave me a vision or something like. But yeah, 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:11.839 that was when. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:14.920 So isn't true that if had he answered to the text, 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:19.720 you might be on over your right to this day, like, yeah, 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.560 what did he leave you and read and read? Oh 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.160 you know, he's just busy, was just busy. 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:29.520 Just at this time, BR's really going crazy with all 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:31.839 the music. I'm sure he had everybody hit in his line. 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:33.920 But yeah, I think that was the only thing that 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:35.160 was keeping me from signing. Bro. 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.559 Well, let's we're ready for quick Thomas. Let's go, Let's 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.040 do it. Let's do it, Let's do it. You're ready 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:41.520 for this part? 0:12:42.320 --> 0:12:45.199 Yeah, okay, you got you gotta. 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:48.439 Feel your sense it. 0:12:49.160 --> 0:12:52.160 Yeah, but some PARTA I love this ship. 0:12:53.240 --> 0:12:56.440 But by the way, they got the hockey. Okay, yeah, 0:12:56.600 --> 0:13:02.240 I want to do quick Time line first or what? Okay, okay, okay. Well, 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.040 I've been trying to get you, to get you on 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.040 this show, to give you your flowers, to let you 0:13:09.080 --> 0:13:11.840 know how much you mean to the industry. The industry 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.559 is a better place when you make it music, when 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:14.800 you were a part of it. So we wanted to 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:16.199 give you a flowers face to face. 0:13:16.440 --> 0:13:22.760 Man the Man Snoop Dogg. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:24.640 Said, it's better than a Grammy because it comes from its. 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:26.120 People and we want to want. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:30.800 To give you flowers because bro, you really are something special. 0:13:31.320 --> 0:13:33.600 You really are. You know what I love about you? 0:13:35.720 --> 0:13:37.920 Like it's a rumor that you don't just go in 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:40.880 the studio with anybody like you have to actually feel 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:43.439 feel it. Don't never change. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.680 I like that. You know some people would come and 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:48.200 be like yo. 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:51.120 You know he's like they will credit that as being 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:51.719 like hard to. 0:13:51.640 --> 0:13:54.360 Work with or whatever, But I really don't understand why. 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.680 Yeah, no, I understand it because I'm an artist too, 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:59.040 you know what I'm saying. But if I love the 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:01.400 fact that money, I can tell money doesn't move you. 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.920 Has there ever been a time where it was it 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:09.000 was tempted like like and you want you did something 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:10.560 that that cost of money? 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:13.680 You said, did something that costs money? No, no, be 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:16.600 costs of money and you regret it is like movie 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:23.080 nah mm hmm. Yeah. I can't think of what it 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:26.360 is exactly those moments, but I've definitely had those moments. 0:14:26.360 --> 0:14:29.480 But when it comes to the to the music and whatnot, 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:32.440 Like you know, people especially early on stroing all types 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.280 of crazy numbers that me to do to do certain songs, 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.680 and I'd be like, you know, I just really want to. 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.240 I was just nervous a lot of times, right, you know, 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:43.480 that was the big, the big thing. But the main 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.360 reason why I don't really like being in the studio 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.560 with people was like, you know, just PTSD and trauma, 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.520 you know, from when I was younger. I'm being honest 0:14:50.560 --> 0:14:53.240 with you. What if I give you an example. I'm 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.960 sixteen years old or seventeen, my bad recording songs, and 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:58.040 I used to have this one guy, I'm not gonna 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.280 say his name, but he used to record me all 0:15:00.320 --> 0:15:02.280 the time, and uh, you know, he wouldcord me an 0:15:02.320 --> 0:15:06.040 fl studio and yeah, I was just I would cut 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.840 school to go to the studio, go to his crib. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.400 He was living in Louis and uh yeah, he would 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.080 play play the beat and he would record me because 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.120 I didn't know how to do it. And then you know, 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.600 he would be trolling me sometimes, like playing gunshots and 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:18.920 while I'm. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:24.960 Recording whatever et and I feel like I'd be like, bro, 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:25.800 I'm trying to make it. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:30.440 Bro, like you just stopped, bro, And he would be laughing. 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.200 He was like, you know, its just trolling me and ship. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.120 At that point, I was just like, you know what, like, 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:36.160 can you teach me to record myself? Taught me how 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:39.040 to record myself, and at that point, I was just like, 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:41.400 I'm just cut out the middle man. I'm gonna just 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:43.280 do it myself. And I've been recording myself ever since. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.160 So look at the correct you make the beats. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.400 I don't make the beat. You don't make the beats, okay, 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:56.800 but you engineered yourself. Yeah, holy Molyuakami DJ College jumped 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:58.640 over somewhere to get your vocals. 0:15:58.840 --> 0:16:03.000 That's that's what they say. What is this story? I 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:05.080 don't know it was. They say he was jumped over 0:16:05.080 --> 0:16:07.040 the fence, but I don't think he jumped over the fence. 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:08.800 But I know. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:14.480 He would do anything. But you know, we got it done. 0:16:14.600 --> 0:16:17.560 You know the story was. You know, I remember I 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:19.440 told him when they played me the song for wild thoughts, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:22.280 that's kind for us. Wild thoughts came. 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:24.520 You didn't get to hear the Rianna versionuntil it actually 0:16:24.560 --> 0:16:27.880 came out dropped right then you had the party you got. 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:30.200 The Party next Door version. But not only that, but 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:32.720 the song was in the lower octave and I recorded it. 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:34.600 I had already did my part, you know what I'm saying, 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:38.440 and he had hit me. I knew that she was 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.040 going to record it in the higher octave, and I 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:41.400 mentioned that to him, but he's like, no, we just 0:16:41.400 --> 0:16:43.560 need it done. We needed all right. I got it done, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:45.240 and you know, I didn't know how he was going 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:46.720 to figure because I know they couldn't just pitch my 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:50.240 vocals up. So he came knocking on the day on 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.240 a horrible day I was having, like they threw a 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:54.840 surprise party for an album that I wasn't happy about 0:16:55.480 --> 0:17:03.680 show up. My lambow broke down that day, like it 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.920 was just a bad day overall, and I was like, yo, 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:08.879 I need it tonight album release day. I was like, 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.120 I can't do it tonight, you know what I mean. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:13.560 And I think everybody wasn't answering to answering the phone, 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.639 and that's what happened. So we got to do you 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:16.160 know what I'm saying. 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:18.960 I think you said I think arrest somewhere that you 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:19.720 said to college. 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:22.080 Uh, like I'm going through something. He was like, put 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:27.280 it in music. Yeah, yeah, that was The media took 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:29.640 that one and that thing with that one. But now 0:17:29.680 --> 0:17:32.040 what happened that was early on. If I mean, you 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:35.639 can go back and listen to it, it was, what the 0:17:35.680 --> 0:17:37.560 fuck is that? The song with me a future on 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:39.239 Major key album? You know what I mean, you go 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:41.120 listen to it. What the fuck I'm saying. I'm just talking. 0:17:41.160 --> 0:17:44.000 I literally did that, and it's like I ain't trying 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:45.960 to listen to that ship. I was just super depressed, 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:47.320 you know what I mean. That didn't even what I 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.560 want to make music about. You know, but like at 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.320 that time, I was really going through all that ship 0:17:51.359 --> 0:17:52.520 that I was talking about on the song, and I 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.520 was stressed the funk out because I was like, I 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.040 didn't get here to be beefing with niggas in the 0:17:57.119 --> 0:18:00.159 music industry. You know, this person saying I owe him this, 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:02.679 or this person that literally I ain't spoke to in 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.120 four years, you know what I mean talking about like yo, 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:06.679 you oh, you know what I'm saying. It's just like 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:08.919 it was stressful for me to deal with. I had 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.119 people leaving death threats and on my car. My daughter 0:18:12.160 --> 0:18:14.600 was in there sleeping while I'm somewhere else. Had to 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.240 fly back home figuring shit out. CPS called my crib 0:18:18.880 --> 0:18:21.760 coming asking my daughter inappropriate questions, like all types of 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:24.960 shit that was making me like really be like, damn 0:18:25.000 --> 0:18:26.680 fuck the music is you know what I'm saying? Like 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:27.880 I don't want to be a part of this shit 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.760 at all, Like is this what like my success is 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.399 making people? Do you know what I'm saying? And I 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:36.960 remember that was a point where I once my daughter 0:18:37.000 --> 0:18:39.040 was born, I kind of like I stopped talking to everybody. 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.399 Like it wasn't because I knew I was gonna be 0:18:41.400 --> 0:18:43.919 famous someday or whatever. I just was like, let me 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.080 see who really fuck with me for real? So like 0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:49.560 I stopped fucking people, started focusing on my job at ups, 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:52.439 getting other jobs, and you know, there was only a 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.080 couple of people that was reaching out to me rich 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.960 you know, my Boye Swan you know obviously close family 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.359 members and whatnot, and other than that, you know, nobody 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.399 else was reaching out to me. So excuse me. Whenever 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:06.879 the song took off, don't and then whenever I started 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:09.320 having some success and all these people showing me love, 0:19:09.359 --> 0:19:12.159 Timblin Drake, whoever, all these people start knocking at the door, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.399 like yo, you switched up. It's just like, damn I 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:20.399 switched up. That's crazy. That was while I blew my 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.679 mind so like at that point, and then they really 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.359 they really was like, nah, we gotta we gotta do 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:27.439 something about this this guy, you know what I mean, 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:30.119 this dude who like switched up on us. So they 0:19:30.240 --> 0:19:32.399 just start pulling every trick out the you know what 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.000 I mean. I'm just like add it up. I'm like, 0:19:35.040 --> 0:19:36.840 can I just make music to be happy about it? 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:39.520 But like the industry was just beat me up man 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:42.240 for a long time, you know, and I just I 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:44.200 wasn't funk with it. So that was the whole reason 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:45.960 why I was like, he was like put it in music, 0:19:46.160 --> 0:19:47.960 you know. I was like, put it into music, But like, 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:51.280 don't nobody wanted that? But were you were you musically 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:54.600 trained in anyway? No, No, not at all. I'm really 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:56.240 just a studio geek at the end of the day. 0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.840 Like because hearing you talk about the doctors and all that, Yeah, yeah, 0:19:58.880 --> 0:19:59.480 I'm sure most of the. 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:02.439 People even were I don't know, just go ahead and 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.280 sing that or I know a little a couple of things, 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:06.639 you know, not for real, I'll just be in a 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.280 studio like fucking with shit, and I like, I mean 0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:10.879 it's still a lot that I don't know, but like 0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.199 you know. 0:20:14.080 --> 0:20:18.760 You know, it was something I'll relate to you very much. 0:20:19.960 --> 0:20:23.520 It's how tough you are on yourself. Watch your second 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:28.840 album like I you did. I'm gonna lie me hearing 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.399 you talk about your second album, I'd be like, damn, 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.560 I thought I was bad on myself. I actually had 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.280 a line Melvin Flint dropped my whole colossal stop. I 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.639 can't believe I'm fucked up and made a half assed album. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.160 My excuse is my pops just died and I ain't 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:44.880 want to make music. My pops just died. I hated 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:50.359 my second album, and I listened to the critics. I 0:20:50.440 --> 0:20:54.120 listened to the haters, and you're probably the only other 0:20:54.200 --> 0:20:57.199 artists in the world that I know that related to that. 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:00.960 I was sitting there watching all your interviews and I 0:21:01.000 --> 0:21:04.360 was like, holy, somebody is just as hard on theyself. 0:21:04.720 --> 0:21:08.040 But but have you outgrown that or I want to 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:10.480 say that there's like a bit of a common misconception 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:12.480 because every time I see these clips, I always see 0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:14.600 some of my bands coming to my defense, like I 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.680 just want him to know how good blah blah blah 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.360 appreciate it, but I'm just like, yo, it's not about that. 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:22.440 But the common misconception is this, like a lot of 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.720 people think that I became depressed after my second album. 0:21:25.960 --> 0:21:28.399 It was after the first one that everybody tells me 0:21:28.400 --> 0:21:30.040 now it's such a classic, and it was like this, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:32.679 that and the third. It was after that win that 0:21:32.760 --> 0:21:34.840 where I was like where I was fucked up, you 0:21:34.880 --> 0:21:36.760 know what I'm saying. Trap Soul came out, and it's 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.160 just because, like I said, like the fame all that, 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:41.080 it was all new to me. So it's like when 0:21:41.119 --> 0:21:42.920 it came out and I started seeing all these critics 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:45.840 going crazy on Trap. So that's when it made me 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.399 have imposter syndrome. And I was like, I don't know 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:50.159 what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying. I was like, 0:21:50.200 --> 0:21:52.760 I thought that I did something. It wasn't until about 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.600 two years at two three years after that where people 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.840 was really like, yo, this is this is a dope album. 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.280 You know what I'm saying. Guess what. I had a label, 0:22:01.480 --> 0:22:04.199 I had another tour, a tour, a tour agreement that 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.000 I had to fulfill. I had to drop another album 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:14.560 and because had imposter syndrome. You know what, bro? Yeah, exactly, 0:22:14.600 --> 0:22:17.640 so it was like I didn't get time if I 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:19.280 you know, we talked about the money thing. You know, 0:22:19.760 --> 0:22:22.360 that's it, right, Okay, that's the money that I shouldn't 0:22:22.359 --> 0:22:23.880 have took at that moment because it's like the. 0:22:23.800 --> 0:22:27.120 Same exact thing with me. I'm sorry because I relate 0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:28.840 to it so much. Was they had gave me so 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:30.760 much money, and how I'm gonna tell them not to 0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:31.920 go to the studio, you know what I mean? 0:22:32.000 --> 0:22:34.360 Like I spent the money and I was definitely using it. 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:35.879 So I was like I had to go to the 0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:37.560 studid but it wasn't time for me, you know what 0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:42.320 I'm saying. So if you could do anything to redo 0:22:43.040 --> 0:22:45.880 the process of making that album, what would you do different? 0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.720 I wouldn't have made it. I would have waited a while, 0:22:49.960 --> 0:22:51.840 but I wouldn't have made it. But also I was 0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.480 gonna say that I would have worked with writers because 0:22:54.480 --> 0:22:56.960 that was the era when everybody was like Jake with 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:00.600 the platinum with no features, so everybody was so stuck 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:01.840 on it, and then they was like he went platting 0:23:01.840 --> 0:23:04.280 with no features again, and I was just like, damn, 0:23:04.520 --> 0:23:06.199 like I gotta go platinum with no because you know, 0:23:06.240 --> 0:23:08.159 my first ship platinum with no features. I was like, 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.440 all right, I guess I'm gonna go platinum with no 0:23:10.520 --> 0:23:12.959 features again. You do that twice? Did I do it twice? 0:23:13.080 --> 0:23:16.720 Yeah? 0:23:16.800 --> 0:23:19.600 Yeah, you know what's going on out here? Years later, 0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:22.840 but it happened though, you know. But anyways, I think 0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:25.040 I was so hung up on that and like I said, 0:23:25.080 --> 0:23:28.520 imposter syndrome. So like a big part of me was like, man, 0:23:28.640 --> 0:23:30.200 you know, if I could go back in time, really 0:23:30.200 --> 0:23:31.720 what I would have did, I wouldn't have I wouldn't 0:23:31.720 --> 0:23:34.080 have made an album. I would have waited to see 0:23:34.080 --> 0:23:35.840 what the fun was gonna happen with my first album. 0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:37.560 But I didn't have the luxury of doing that because 0:23:37.600 --> 0:23:41.119 you know, money running dry and something like, damn, you 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.320 know what am I gonna you know what I'm gonna do? 0:23:43.400 --> 0:23:46.240 So you had your kid too, right, my kid? And 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:47.720 you know at that point there was a lot of pressure. 0:23:47.760 --> 0:23:49.959 I was just like, I can't go back to ups. 0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:52.320 I can't go back to Papa John's right, you know, 0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:54.600 I gotta do something. And that number was nice, so 0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:57.040 I was like, I'm gonna take it, you know, I 0:23:57.080 --> 0:24:00.240 had to, and yeah, just put me. It really put 0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.200 me behind and you know, after and then that shit 0:24:03.280 --> 0:24:05.040 came out because, like I said, I went in my 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.199 mind and then the critics went in and that just 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:09.600 really sent me to yep. 0:24:10.119 --> 0:24:14.760 But like following you, listening to you, I can tell 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:15.640 that you let. 0:24:15.440 --> 0:24:18.399 The critics get to you. Yeah, get to you. I 0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:18.760 did too. 0:24:18.880 --> 0:24:21.680 I did too, Like so I'm the same human being, 0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:26.919 like like, I know what's crazy. My first album, I 0:24:26.920 --> 0:24:29.520 got four and a half mics in the source right, 0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:31.359 which is a big deal. Which was a big deal, 0:24:31.840 --> 0:24:34.440 so I was supposed to celebrate that. But my second 0:24:34.480 --> 0:24:38.399 album got three mics, and I celebrated the failure of 0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.119 the three mics more than I celebrated the success. And 0:24:41.160 --> 0:24:43.320 I let the people get to me. But for years 0:24:43.359 --> 0:24:44.199 later it was it. 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.199 Was people, you know. 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.120 I would see them in the airport and they'd be like. 0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:49.879 Why the funk would you just this album? 0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:52.440 The album changed my life, and I had to sit 0:24:52.520 --> 0:24:54.879 back and I had to say, you know what, this 0:24:54.920 --> 0:24:58.879 ship wasn't about me. So that's why I asked you, 0:24:58.359 --> 0:25:01.040 did you go back to me visit that and say, like, 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.440 you know, you know you you answer the question man, 0:25:04.480 --> 0:25:07.480 when you said, yeah, I can't even listen to it. 0:25:06.600 --> 0:25:10.240 You know the fans that you want me to do 0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:12.639 a couple on tours. So it's like there some of 0:25:12.680 --> 0:25:15.680 them I cans like, like the more the more popular ones, 0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:17.159 but a lot of them, I'm just like, it's the 0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:19.359 same ship with the cald song. Like when I hear 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:22.399 the Calis song, I hear I heard my second out, 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:24.439 you know what I mean. I'm just like, this is 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.160 not where I need to be. He was like, put 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:27.959 it into the music. That was literally what I did. 0:25:28.040 --> 0:25:29.000 I was like, I don't even know what to make 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:30.919 music about. And I was like, fuck it, i'ma just 0:25:31.119 --> 0:25:32.800 I guess put it in the music and talk about 0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:35.639 ship that I'm going through. And it's crazy because, like 0:25:36.920 --> 0:25:39.320 you know, I remember one time I had another one 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:43.239 of those manifestation dreams and I was in Australia and 0:25:43.280 --> 0:25:46.439 my manager at the time was like, yo, you know, 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:49.919 actually I skipped apart. I had a dream I'm sleeping 0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:53.199 in the in the in the bed whatever. And my 0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.640 dream I was in my hood, my old hood in Louisville, 0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:59.040 and they was a jet just flew down in the 0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.960 middle of the hood and jay Z and Beyonce got 0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:03.680 off of it, and jay Z was like, were having 0:26:03.680 --> 0:26:07.440 some dreams. He was like, Yo, what you doing here? 0:26:07.440 --> 0:26:07.640 Bro? 0:26:08.119 --> 0:26:10.080 I was just like I don't know, and then like 0:26:10.160 --> 0:26:12.000 I don't know what happened, but I ended up waking up. Right. 0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:14.080 My manager calls me, was like, Yo, you know how 0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:15.560 you say you've been looking for a mentor right, And 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.920 I was like yeah, he said, Yo, jay Z won't 0:26:17.960 --> 0:26:20.280 talk to you. I was like huh and he was 0:26:20.320 --> 0:26:22.879 like yeah. I was like, okay, cool. So you know, 0:26:22.920 --> 0:26:25.120 I think Lenny s put us on the group text 0:26:25.200 --> 0:26:27.680 or whatnot. And then you know, jay Z was talking 0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:29.560 to me about my second album. He was like, yo, man, 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.520 I just want to say, you know, I appreciate you know, Yo, 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:34.320 I heard when you talked about this and him just 0:26:34.359 --> 0:26:36.520 breaking down ship, and I was saying, really meant a 0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.119 lot to me, Like damn, that's crazy, Like you know, 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.440 even though I had, you know, the second album didn't 0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:43.840 perform or whatnot, like I had, you know, jay Z 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.720 pick me up on that ship to me personally, and 0:26:46.720 --> 0:26:48.399 that just made me be like you know what, fuck it, 0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:50.480 Like I just got to keep pushing forward, you know 0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:50.800 what I mean. 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:56.840 Fucking awesome, bro Thomas dream all right, so this is 0:26:56.880 --> 0:27:00.399 our drinking game We're going to give you two choices. 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.639 If you pick one of the choices, we don't drink. 0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.840 But if you say both or neither, like we didn't 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:09.720 want to pick anybody or whatever, then we drink. 0:27:09.600 --> 0:27:10.280 And everybody drink. 0:27:10.400 --> 0:27:11.639 I got a feeling he's gonna be want to be 0:27:11.640 --> 0:27:14.520 politically correct, and. 0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:16.080 They say, really did this anybody? We just want to 0:27:16.080 --> 0:27:16.760 bring up stories. 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:20.800 Yeah, anything big a story, buddy, bring it up. 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.240 And and really the choice is really depending on whatever 0:27:23.280 --> 0:27:25.879 for you. It's your criteria. It's it's it's not who's 0:27:25.880 --> 0:27:28.400 better at anything specifica And then I gotta drink these 0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.040 right here, right, Yeah, that's that's hockey. Yeah, okay, okay, 0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:34.560 if you want, okay, you can sip to By the way, 0:27:34.560 --> 0:27:37.160 we don't make up these questions. It's the cocaine section 0:27:37.240 --> 0:27:40.600 over there. Colombian and the Dominican right there. They make 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:41.360 up these questions. 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:45.160 So if you get mad at anybody, let's just look 0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:48.080 over there. Rich knows them both. He'll he'll send it up. 0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:53.320 This is this is this is one I enjoy saying 0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:55.720 m J or Prince. 0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.480 MJ. MJ. Yeah, yeah, I mean because I play video 0:28:00.560 --> 0:28:02.480 games and like I grew up with m J. You 0:28:02.520 --> 0:28:04.600 know Michael Jackson Moonwalker. 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.919 So you know you got your own video game? Drop 0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:08.360 it dropped the radio. 0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:11.040 No, no, no, no, Okay, I'm working on them. Okay, okay, 0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:15.960 jodas He or one twelve. I'm gonna go one twelve. 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:18.520 I love Joashy, but I'm gonna go one twelve though 0:28:18.920 --> 0:28:24.679 they got like different type of sauce. Chris Brown or Usher. 0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.960 I love Usher, but I'm gonna go see Breezing. Yeah, 0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:33.560 just got talk with him too. Yeah, like we're yeah 0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:39.760 Jack Carlo or boss Man Dilo. I gotta go with 0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:41.440 the home with the home team. You know what I'm saying. 0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:47.000 I love boss Man. I gotta go with the home team. Timberlin, 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:47.480 Ard Pharrell. 0:28:52.440 --> 0:28:56.760 I'm gonna take a shot for you. 0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:06.440 This one's challenging because it's like him when uh. 0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:13.120 So, I just about one in the next one, Okay, Okay, 0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:18.000 well I like all three. The next one, okay, yeah, 0:29:18.080 --> 0:29:20.160 you go to the next you take the next one, boy, 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:21.360 wondered Charlie. 0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:27.960 Heat Ah, that's a crazy question, man, Charlie. 0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:31.880 Okay, okay, Charlie, Yo, hud away, Way, I didn't pick yet, don'tkay. 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:36.960 I'm just talking to my brother directly so hard because 0:29:37.080 --> 0:29:39.680 like Charlie, my favorite Charlie, my favorite producer ever, you 0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:41.720 know what I mean, because he just you know, he's 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:43.760 my favorite producer I've ever worked because he'd just be grinding. 0:29:43.840 --> 0:29:46.360 He's always always ready to work on some new ship. 0:29:46.640 --> 0:29:48.239 You know, we try everything. You know, we didn't need 0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:51.080 a Paw Patrol song to Michael Jackson that song or 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:55.080 a rap song like just everything Patrol. So yeah we did. Yeah, yeah, 0:29:55.240 --> 0:30:01.240 it's gonna be more hyper. Yeah, tell him like that. 0:30:01.360 --> 0:30:05.760 That's me here, he'll know it. But anyways, but boy, 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:08.040 one day, he's just somebody that's just been you know, 0:30:08.120 --> 0:30:09.720 me and him. We probably only got like two records 0:30:09.720 --> 0:30:12.000 together or some three, I don't know, but like he 0:30:12.200 --> 0:30:15.680 just super down the earth guy and probably one of 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:17.640 my best friends in the music industry for show because 0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.200 he's always kept it solid. So I gotta take a shot. 0:30:20.200 --> 0:30:23.000 I'm taking a shot with you, man. Follow cheers, just. 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:31.360 Stevie Wonder And by the way, Stevie, Steve, did you 0:30:31.400 --> 0:30:33.440 see the new story that we just put out about 0:30:33.480 --> 0:30:34.120 Stevie again? 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.040 We need Stevie on drinks already. Man. 0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:43.160 I think if I see Stevie, he sees me, he's 0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.280 gonna stop me. He's gonna stop. 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:46.440 So we just. 0:30:48.360 --> 0:30:51.800 Deon Cole on here, and Deon Cole said that Stevie 0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:52.640 want to back this. 0:30:52.640 --> 0:30:59.800 Girl, damn, and then up the slop back like a bitch. 0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:06.400 Ste Well, I don't think Stevie gets on jokes anymore. 0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:08.760 I think Stevee's mad at us bro. I think I 0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:12.160 think I'm not sure. I'm not too many stories, man, 0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:13.560 so too many stories people. 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:13.920 Have come on here. 0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:16.240 So the Eisley Brothers came on here said they seen 0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:21.200 Stevie j Stevie on crossing the Highway. 0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.440 A business street, not the Highway Man street. 0:31:25.160 --> 0:31:29.000 So I don't think he's trying on jokes for money anymore. Ahead, 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:32.240 next one's big Stevie wonder stee. 0:31:32.360 --> 0:31:34.360 Okay, okay, okay, I want to I want to ask 0:31:34.360 --> 0:31:40.920 this one Drake or Tory lanez Rake. Okay, you got 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.520 records for both? He said, I got you. 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.520 Got records for both. It ain't about that, you know. 0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:48.400 I love Toy. Toy is super dope artist. I think 0:31:49.920 --> 0:31:53.560 he's just amazing, you know. But I grew up with Drake. 0:31:53.880 --> 0:31:57.080 Okay, so now let me ask the more controversy question 0:31:58.040 --> 0:31:58.920 Drake Kendrick. 0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:03.480 That's easy. I mean, I love Kendrick Labar, but it's 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:07.880 straight because of your relationship. Relationship. But it's like, I 0:32:08.040 --> 0:32:10.360 just that's the music that I've studied, Like got it, 0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:13.200 you know, like, yeah, makes sense? Cool? 0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:20.280 Al Green and Marvin Gaye Marvin gay Okay, Whitney Houston 0:32:21.400 --> 0:32:23.160 did you all put three in this one? 0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:25.040 They went crazy? 0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:35.920 Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. Okay, it's the cocaine section. 0:32:36.040 --> 0:32:39.480 You're gonna get roped up one of these days. I 0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:41.160 just gonna not grab people. 0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:46.360 I'm gonna go with Mariah Carey. Okay, I'm not answering 0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:47.560 this one. You asked that one. 0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.960 Uh Beyonce, Arihanna. 0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:51.920 Mm hm. 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:11.400 Hm hmm, Kanye or Swiss Beats Dama, Uh let me go, yeah. 0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:18.719 Okay to speak total or s w B that's w okay. 0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:22.040 Curtis Mayfield or slod Stone. 0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.160 I don't know slod Stone, but I do know of 0:33:25.240 --> 0:33:30.440 Curtis Mayfield. So you're going d J Collin or DJ Drama. 0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.239 I love you Drama, but I gotta go with my 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:36.160 brother Calin. So right, he climbing over the walls and gates. 0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:37.880 You should like that you gotta go with them mark 0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.600 uh fat Joe or Rick Ross. 0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:47.440 I gotta say fat Joe just because, like you know, 0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:51.280 I got you know, richest, one of the richest best friends. 0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.640 So he's just like one of the first famous people 0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:55.120 I've been around, you know what I mean? That like 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:58.200 treating me, you know, like a human. So that's why 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:04.400 I gotta make no noise. But we got one more. Well, 0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:05.760 they were going to send a couple more. 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:12.279 Okay, but that's a question. Did you ever have a 0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:14.440 chance to be on a terror squad? 0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:19.759 Uh m? Was that something? Is that a quiz if 0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.120 you don't thinks? So? I don't think. So I mean 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:25.280 that Joe to me don't seem like type of guys 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.879 is ready to snatch up artists, like you know, even 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:32.200 lost money. She was saying, like rich, Like you know, 0:34:32.320 --> 0:34:34.680 rich could have made money off me plenty of times 0:34:34.680 --> 0:34:36.719 and just never wanted to. Like was like, yo, I 0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:38.719 want you to be in the best possible I don't 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:40.960 want to. I don't you know what I mean. I 0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:42.799 don't want to just be a manager or sign you 0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:44.799 to my homie just because like I could get paid 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:45.920 off of it. He wanted me to be in the 0:34:45.920 --> 0:34:54.080 best situation, and I have you and Joe ever worked together? Yeah, 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:55.920 I did a song. I did a song for my 0:34:56.000 --> 0:34:58.120 long time ago oh wait, and then I did another 0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:00.400 song with him and uh when he did the album 0:35:00.440 --> 0:35:05.960 with with Dre Cool with Drake, okay, work, Okay, So 0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:07.040 I'm gonna take a shot for that. 0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:10.719 But the last one, there's a couple of more, couple 0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:12.240 more okay, dollar sign. 0:35:12.239 --> 0:35:15.120 T Paint, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Teddy Teddy 0:35:15.160 --> 0:35:21.520 Pendergrast with T Pain and applies. What you gotta join 0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:25.040 with T Paint applies? Uh yeah, I do, actually, but 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:28.440 you know what, I just got caught up on the 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.839 fact I was like Teddy Pain to say Teddy peng 0:35:32.080 --> 0:35:33.200 but I remember I heard him say that on this 0:35:33.200 --> 0:35:36.120 album was Teddy Paint. But anyways, T Paint is somebody 0:35:36.200 --> 0:35:37.799 like my uncle gave me a CD. It was an 0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.120 epiphany album and I was just like, love, that's my 0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.680 favorite T Paint album ever, even though he had so 0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:46.880 many other hits and ship. Yeah, I really studied that 0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:51.200 album a lot. T Paint like the okay Barman Hill 0:35:51.280 --> 0:36:01.200 or uh well Laurence Hill, Little Baby or the Baby. 0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:17.080 Ye damn uh do the baby baby, Hey, old babies. 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:20.279 We can say both neither or I can say both. Yea, Yeah, 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:21.680 I don't know, but I thought I had to take 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:26.279 you both. Got to take a shot. I mean, I 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:36.759 say both. Outcast a U g K outcasts. Shout out 0:36:36.760 --> 0:36:40.720 to bun Beato, the great guy. He's always treated me respect. 0:36:40.719 --> 0:36:42.520 Another one of those people that's like down the earth. 0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.799 We're doing competing this, this number, this next one a lot. 0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.200 I think Niles doesn't care. But I think Jada Kiss. 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:53.440 Is going to say, that's a long time ago asking 0:36:53.480 --> 0:36:59.279 me to take this out. He's retiring. Well, you know, 0:37:00.120 --> 0:37:02.960 the wrong person asks just because like I studied mostly 0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.520 be growing up. I didn't start studying rap until I 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.600 was like, I don't know, nineteen years old or something 0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.000 like that. I don't know, I don't know. I mean 0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:16.600 either casual hip hop listener. I mean I listened to 0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.880 more of it now, but I would say, no. 0:37:19.320 --> 0:37:22.640 No, all right, cool, the bars are earth winning fire, 0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.000 Earth winning fire, Okay, all right, now this is last one. 0:37:27.040 --> 0:37:31.000 We go go back to the interview. Yeah, loyalty or respect. 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:38.799 Mm hmm, I got I'm gonna go with respect. That's 0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.080 a crazy question. I like that I'm gonna go respect. 0:37:42.160 --> 0:37:44.600 I mean, but don't they ain't they kind of hand 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.520 in hand. That's why I figure, I think, yeah, that's 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:51.360 why I want both. I want to because if you 0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.319 if you're not lawyer, how could you respect me? Like 0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:54.600 that's what I agree with you. 0:37:54.760 --> 0:38:02.839 So I'm yes, this is something I want to ask 0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:03.400 you personally. 0:38:05.760 --> 0:38:08.279 Do you enjoy being a part of the industry. Do 0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:12.000 I enjoy being part of the music industry? Yeah, yeah, no, 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:14.960 you don't. No, I believe you right, like nothing about it. 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.960 I'm making this game brough industry, you know, Like you know, 0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:23.520 as soon as you mentioned respect, it just got me thinking, like, 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:27.359 you know, I might get a lot of respect from 0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:30.440 like fans and you know, the consumers and whatnot out there, 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:33.560 and then sometimes maybe not. But you know a lot 0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.000 of times I always really wanted to respect my peers 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:40.320 and the ones that are like in it, like really 0:38:40.320 --> 0:38:42.840 in it, and like are still out here competing to 0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:45.359 be number one or whatever, Like I don't really ever 0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:48.719 get the respect from them. And I'm a type of 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:51.279 person like I feel like when I came into the 0:38:51.320 --> 0:38:53.399 industry and probably still know, there's a lot of people 0:38:53.440 --> 0:38:58.200 that treat me like I'm a threat or something threat threat, yeah, 0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.759 and I don't want to think that, but like the 0:39:00.800 --> 0:39:03.520 way they treat me day to day. You know, I've 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.279 been in shit ten years. There's so many people that 0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:07.280 I can name that like I've been so we celebrating 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:12.520 ten years to try sold. Yeah, but there's so many 0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.120 people that I feel like I've reached out to or 0:39:14.120 --> 0:39:16.000 try to talk to or try to get a meeting 0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:18.319 with for five minutes and they just be blowing me 0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.240 off or treat me like I'm just like some funky 0:39:21.280 --> 0:39:24.520 ass a nigga that's trying to be around. 0:39:24.560 --> 0:39:28.759 Say that, and I could believe, Like when when I 0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.680 forget what interview this was, I'm for searching you and 0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:35.239 then they said the tea paining features and it was 0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.839 like they were saying that how they they love that 0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.520 you went and got teap pain implies. And then they 0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.640 mentioned some other artists that I'm not going to name, 0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:44.600 and then you said, well, I can't even get them 0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:47.640 on the phone, And I was just like, is that 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:50.400 you or is that them? 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.680 Right? It's still because it's like I reach out, like 0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.839 I like I'm a man man, and I like I 0:39:54.880 --> 0:39:57.759 like conversation. We got a problem. We gotta fight, you 0:39:57.840 --> 0:39:59.440 know what I'm saying. We got to go back and forth, 0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:01.560 like we could just as men sit down and talk 0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:03.640 about it and nobody ever got to know about it. 0:40:03.880 --> 0:40:05.920 Like I don't know what the problem be. Like a 0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:07.439 lot of people will be saying it's like, oh, I'm 0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:10.640 just busy. They always put it on that. But you know, 0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:12.839 even jay Z hit me back every time I send 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:14.640 him a message, and you know, I imagine he's one 0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:17.840 of the busy busiest I'm saying, so to see people 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.560 that ain't nowhere even near that, you know, I get it. 0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.520 We all kings, we all got our own kingdoms, and 0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:24.560 we got people that's trying to get the Lite promise. 0:40:24.840 --> 0:40:26.920 You know, I'm sure you got twenty people trying to 0:40:26.920 --> 0:40:28.799 get with you right now, so you know what I mean, 0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:32.040 And like I respect that, but like also I feel like, 0:40:32.640 --> 0:40:36.719 you know, if somebody was calling me saying, or are 0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:38.839 trying to get in touch with you, you know, he really 0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:41.120 want to talk to you. I'm gonna we're going to 0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:42.800 have a conversation. You know, we don't have a conversation 0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:45.879 or something. But like so I always felt like if 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.560 I did the same thing, maybe people will give me 0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:49.319 that same respect, Like y'all, I'm trying to get into 0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:51.440 contact so we can like either talk about a record 0:40:51.560 --> 0:40:53.920 or let me show you something I'm working on, and 0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:54.880 it would just be crickets. 0:40:55.360 --> 0:41:00.880 Not even listen you, I swear to I can't imagine 0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.520 that ship, bro, Like, don't be a lot of I 0:41:03.560 --> 0:41:07.160 don't see artists right now not picking up into. 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:11.320 The sword of God, like I swear it's because they're busy. 0:41:11.880 --> 0:41:13.840 Listen, I've studied you enough to know that if I 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:17.800 bring up an artist name, you're gonna say you know nothing. 0:41:18.040 --> 0:41:21.440 So I know that. But because I care about them, 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:22.759 you know what I mean, I don't want to put 0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:24.000 them out because I know what the media is gonna do. 0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:26.160 They gonna take those in your alcohol. They're gonna a 0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:28.919 little you know what I'm saying, Like they got of context. Yeah, 0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:30.880 it's like shave room. They're gonna post some ship the 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.479 next thing. You know, all the people are gonna be saying, 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.239 and I just I don't want to do them like that. 0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.000 You're gonna bring that on them because I care? Yeah, 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:38.719 and you sure. 0:41:39.239 --> 0:41:42.799 Now this is me asking as a person because I 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:46.040 know the industry and a lot of the times artists 0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:47.840 will sit right in the position that you're at and 0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.719 they'll say, you know how it is, right, and yeah, 0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:52.799 I do, I know how it is. But we're not 0:41:52.840 --> 0:41:55.719 speaking to me. We're speaking to this whole audience. Is 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:59.360 it you reaching out? Is it management? Because I can't 0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:02.560 see like I'll just throw out a random name, right, 0:42:02.719 --> 0:42:04.200 I'm not gonna it's not gonna be a real person. 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:07.400 But can reaches out rights Until the reaches out the 0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:12.359 can can, it's higher, it's hollering back. I can't see that. 0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:16.800 So you do, like, especially fifteen millions so or the 0:42:16.840 --> 0:42:19.240 success that you have, I don't see nobody not picking 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:20.000 up your phone call. 0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:20.239 You know what? 0:42:20.320 --> 0:42:22.279 I thought that same I swear to god I saw 0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.160 I thought that same thing. As soon as they told me, 0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:26.560 I called like ten people to verify that that was 0:42:26.600 --> 0:42:29.080 even real. I was like, Yo, is this real? Is 0:42:29.120 --> 0:42:32.000 this true? Because if it is, I'm about to reach 0:42:32.000 --> 0:42:33.360 out to a couple of people. You know what I 0:42:33.440 --> 0:42:35.320 mean that you know that I want to talk to 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:38.080 about my game and whatnot, reach out to them. And 0:42:38.200 --> 0:42:40.719 you know, I said them the thing that they saw 0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:43.319 me like, yo, you know, thinking like maybe that's what 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:45.600 maybe that's what they respect, you know what I mean. 0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:47.239 I was like, Okay, they don't. They might, they might 0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:49.880 not respect me, but maybe they just respect winners. So 0:42:49.920 --> 0:42:52.520 I was like, I'm winning, you know this, Maybe they're intimidated. 0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:55.160 It's sound like a win to me. Possibly. I was like, 0:42:55.200 --> 0:42:56.440 that's sounded like a win to me. So I was like, 0:42:56.440 --> 0:42:58.319 reach out to a couple of people. Still to this day, 0:42:58.320 --> 0:43:00.799 I'm going to show you no response. I was like, yo, man, 0:43:00.920 --> 0:43:04.400 just I don't know, Man, yeah, I do be reaching 0:43:04.400 --> 0:43:06.920 out to him person. It's not managements to me, and 0:43:06.960 --> 0:43:08.840 you know who knows. I just feel like, if you 0:43:08.920 --> 0:43:11.120 got a problem, just hit my phone. You know what 0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.399 I'm saying. It's whatever, it is, like, it don't matter. 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:16.040 Like I feel like people in the industry, it's be 0:43:16.120 --> 0:43:21.080 so many beefs between artists and I just I'm for 0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:22.560 the people, you know what I mean, And I feel 0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:24.840 like the people need music and the fact that we 0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.280 can't collaborate, like fucking we didn't even got to collaborate 0:43:28.280 --> 0:43:30.239 on music, Like I don't even funk about that. But like, 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.359 you know what I mean, some people look at it like, oh, 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:34.080 maybe he just want the clout, you know what. I mean, 0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:37.080 what does it do for me to do a feature 0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:39.160 with you? Like it's doing more for you than it 0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:40.560 is for me. Some people look at it like that 0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.160 and they're like, I'm not working him, you know what 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.120 I'm saying, Like that's what happens to me all the time. Like, 0:43:45.480 --> 0:43:47.399 so I just don't don't. That's why I don't bother 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:52.839 collaborating with people, because like, what's the point, man? People 0:43:52.880 --> 0:43:56.680 think it's me they say, Oh, I'm like, I'm here, 0:43:56.719 --> 0:43:57.800 like at the same place. 0:43:58.760 --> 0:44:01.799 You know what's crazy? And I don't want to say, well, 0:44:01.840 --> 0:44:05.000 i've seen you that seems you were cool and shit 0:44:05.719 --> 0:44:07.680 and I'm sitting back and I'm like, wait a minute. 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.279 These people think that, like you're a dick. They might 0:44:11.320 --> 0:44:13.560 think you're a dick, right because you know what I mean. 0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:17.040 But I've seen you cool, calm, collective, and I'm like, 0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.200 holy shit, do you think that's that's a room about 0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:22.600 you that you don't want to collab with people you 0:44:22.640 --> 0:44:23.319 don't want to. 0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:27.600 Be But here's the thing, Like that was when I 0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:29.920 first came into the industry, a lot of people was 0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:32.839 ringing my manager phone at the time, Yo, we want 0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.160 to get toll on the song and that was just 0:44:34.160 --> 0:44:36.960 like it was overwhelming because like at that time, like 0:44:37.000 --> 0:44:39.279 I didn't even have time, Like will people be like, yo, 0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:40.799 you got any think she was working on when he 0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:43.239 was working on traps. So I'm like nah, because like 0:44:43.239 --> 0:44:44.799 I had to go on tour right after that shit, 0:44:44.880 --> 0:44:47.759 and I was so fucked up about the idea that 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.399 I had to be on stage in front of people 0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:51.359 for the first time that I was like, I ain't 0:44:51.360 --> 0:44:52.919 had no time to make music, you know what I'm saying. 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.680 So that was all I was thinking about, and and 0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:57.319 people was reaching out like yo, we need you on 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.239 the song, and I was just like, I just can't 0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:01.560 do features right now now, like because I don't funk 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.040 with these artists, but just because like I literally don't 0:45:04.040 --> 0:45:05.640 even have time to make music for myself, you know 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:07.920 what I'm saying. So that was the main reason. So 0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:10.240 maybe that you know, I ran into one of them artists. 0:45:10.239 --> 0:45:13.439 Actually I ain't gonna say his name, but uh like gonna 0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:14.560 say his name, but I ran into him at the 0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:16.840 Hit Factory and he was like, yeah, man, your manager 0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:18.480 told me you ain't trying to speak with people, man 0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:25.000 laying man about you. I said, I'm here right now 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.440 and something. Yeah, I think I played him some ship 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:28.919 and he was like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna 0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:30.920 like he put a verse on that bitch and it 0:45:30.960 --> 0:45:32.520 came out like a week or two later. 0:45:32.840 --> 0:45:34.399 But let me, let me, let me, let me give 0:45:34.440 --> 0:45:36.560 you a problem. Let me just let you know. I've 0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.920 been in this music business after Trap Soul. You changed 0:45:40.719 --> 0:45:43.000 the whole game. I don't tell you, okay, said. 0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:47.920 You changed the whole game? Is no, no, no, I. 0:45:47.880 --> 0:45:50.799 Figure out because I know I can feel that your humbleness. 0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:55.160 But like the way music is made now has changed 0:45:55.239 --> 0:45:58.319 since Trap so and it's celebrating ten years. Correct, Yeah 0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:01.160 you're going to take a shot for that. Yeah yeah, 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:02.080 hell yeah, come on. 0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:08.479 I got do you do you realize what Trap Soul 0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:10.400 did to the people. Always let it to me, and 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:12.440 I don't never hear it or see it. To be 0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:15.560 honest with you, You're just too humble, man, I just 0:46:15.600 --> 0:46:17.680 don't see it. Like I'm just being honest, Like I hear, 0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:20.600 like I don't hear what they hear. Maybe they hear it, 0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.920 but like for me, I just hear people making music. 0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:25.960 You know what I'm saying. That's all right? 0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:29.400 Well, well well and I've seen an interview where they 0:46:29.480 --> 0:46:32.640 asked you about this and they say that you actually 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:40.040 have babies out there. People follow exactly Trap Soul and 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:42.080 I know you don't want to claim it. 0:46:42.520 --> 0:46:44.960 Yeah. I was talking to some of my homies at 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:49.680 OVO at this party one time and prayings. 0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:50.759 People. 0:46:50.840 --> 0:46:51.400 Yeah, they was. 0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:53.040 They was pissed at me because I was like, the 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:54.920 say yo, such and such as a song of the. 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.279 Story they said at the club, at the club and 0:46:57.480 --> 0:47:00.600 come on at the club. 0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:02.920 I was like, bron, I was like, nah, they're not 0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:04.440 my son, but you didn't like the fact that they 0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:06.440 was calling the son. Yeah, I don't like that. I 0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:10.120 don't like because anytime I heard sons and him, it's bad. 0:47:10.480 --> 0:47:12.040 It's like, you know what I mean, the way rappers, 0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:13.680 you's like, Yo, this so and so is my son, 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.840 and it's always some ship that's putting them down in 0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:22.000 the wraps New York. Not always. 0:47:22.080 --> 0:47:24.320 You got to you gotta tell me the time, just 0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:26.759 say like I'm the O G and they coming up 0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:27.160 behind me. 0:47:27.239 --> 0:47:30.280 That's really I guess I get it. When he explained 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:31.920 it to the collect Okay, I get it, you know 0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:33.480 what I mean, But I you know, I just don't 0:47:33.520 --> 0:47:36.080 ever want an artist to feel like I'm they daddy. 0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:38.719 You know what I'm saying. I get that. I'm just 0:47:38.719 --> 0:47:41.720 saying like I never want that. Like you just inspired 0:47:41.760 --> 0:47:43.759 by me, you know what I'm saying. You took you know, 0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:46.120 a page out of my book, study my you know 0:47:46.160 --> 0:47:48.160 you're gonna make it your own. You know, they say 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:51.239 a thief stials with a genius borrows, and you know 0:47:51.280 --> 0:47:54.879 for the artists that do that, you know, but yeah, 0:47:55.080 --> 0:47:57.160 it's cool. I get the whole You got some babies 0:47:57.200 --> 0:47:59.520 out there, I get it. No, it's the truth. It's 0:47:59.520 --> 0:47:59.839 the truth. 0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:06.279 Like you know what I mean, uh me personally, you know, 0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:11.040 Sorry to keep twisting it to me, but there was 0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:14.120 a whole genre after I worked with Pharrell, Like people 0:48:14.200 --> 0:48:16.279 didn't want to work with Pharrell, and then people just 0:48:16.320 --> 0:48:19.080 follow that that thing. And that's why it reminds me 0:48:19.120 --> 0:48:23.960 of trap soul with you is because after that people 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:29.240 followed you and they mimicked and they made music exactly 0:48:29.360 --> 0:48:31.680 sounding like you. And I know you humble enough not 0:48:31.719 --> 0:48:35.160 to be like fuck them, Oh that's my son. You 0:48:35.200 --> 0:48:38.040 ain't claiming that shit at all, but but you do 0:48:38.120 --> 0:48:39.759 recognize people are following you. 0:48:39.800 --> 0:48:42.560 I don't recognize that. Nah. I mean I've seen people 0:48:42.560 --> 0:48:45.239 come out with albums called trap soul and like you 0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:47.000 know what I mean, or went out or they'll tell 0:48:47.040 --> 0:48:49.120 me that they like I'm their favorite artist and they'll 0:48:49.120 --> 0:48:50.600 make music. I have just seen that. 0:48:50.680 --> 0:48:52.880 But like you know, you can say it differently. You 0:48:52.920 --> 0:48:55.880 inspired a movement is probably a better yeah way to 0:48:55.920 --> 0:48:56.239 say it. 0:48:56.520 --> 0:48:58.640 Yeah yeah, but like noah, I don't really I don't 0:48:58.680 --> 0:48:59.600 really see it. 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:02.880 So if if let me let me so, let me 0:49:02.880 --> 0:49:09.200 ask you a question, God comes down to Earth, h price, 0:49:10.760 --> 0:49:15.919 You're gonna make one record to save humanity, get one 0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.600 feature and one producer. 0:49:19.280 --> 0:49:26.080 Who you calling dahm. One feature and if you want 0:49:26.080 --> 0:49:30.640 to make it easier for you that a uh, okay 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:32.800 do I get to do? I get as many chances 0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:36.600 with that. Let's say this feature does a hundred can 0:49:36.600 --> 0:49:38.279 they do a hundred verses until I get it right? 0:49:46.480 --> 0:49:50.000 But the producer might not get it right. I might 0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:52.640 not get it right, like I just want to try. 0:49:52.920 --> 0:49:57.160 I'm probably I'm gonna go with my boy Charlie Heat 0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:02.600 for sure, so just because I believe in them so much. 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:11.560 And then as the feature, uh, and I get to 0:50:11.640 --> 0:50:14.920 like vocal produce everything, Like I get to really craft 0:50:14.920 --> 0:50:19.200 this ship together. Save a minute. I'm going with Drake. Yeah, 0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:27.440 I can see it what you said. You you've vocal 0:50:27.480 --> 0:50:31.080 produced him. No, not ever vo Okay, but like if 0:50:31.120 --> 0:50:32.640 I could like be like yo, now we gotta do 0:50:32.680 --> 0:50:35.160 it like this and you know what I'm saying and 0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:37.080 really be a part of our our go with bro. 0:50:38.200 --> 0:50:41.879 Is there anybody like you know, we got these collab albums. 0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:43.240 That's like being popular. 0:50:43.280 --> 0:50:46.360 Now, what is there anybody you will do a collab 0:50:46.400 --> 0:50:48.280 album with a Yeah, there was a bunch of people. 0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:51.320 I'll do one with Future for sure. I really love Future, 0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:54.640 like pick up the Future. I just seen him another day. 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.000 We squashed it. We had a little first and we 0:50:58.080 --> 0:51:02.200 squashed it and I told him I'm sorry for my bad. 0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.640 Part's not even doing. 0:51:06.360 --> 0:51:09.760 Talk about the good part, and thank you Future because 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:11.640 he was actually right and you know what I mean, 0:51:12.000 --> 0:51:14.600 thick him up. But that's what you in Future. 0:51:14.800 --> 0:51:16.759 Yeah, I would love to do some Future just because, 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.480 like you know, Future, you got the melodies for show. 0:51:20.600 --> 0:51:22.719 You definitely got through caduses and like you know, I 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:26.640 understand like rap music. I study his catalog for a 0:51:26.640 --> 0:51:28.880 long time. You know, if it's for him. I wouldn't 0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:31.080 There's so much shit that I just would have never made, 0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:32.640 you know what I mean? But I feel like we 0:51:32.640 --> 0:51:34.799 would make some some real dope ship, not just for 0:51:34.800 --> 0:51:38.520 the ladies, but just for the fellas who love ladies. 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:43.279 So what do you love more? Rapping? Or I mean, 0:51:43.640 --> 0:51:45.600 R and B is my first love. But I always 0:51:45.640 --> 0:51:48.440 say we're rapping. I can I can say more, you know, singing. 0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.720 It's like it's it's a lot more slow, slow paced, 0:51:52.200 --> 0:51:55.640 and uh yeah, we're rapping. I don't know, it's just 0:51:55.680 --> 0:51:58.480 like a million words that I could say in sixteen 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:01.120 bars versus was the moment you decided I want to 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:10.439 start with? I started rapping because of who gotta started 0:52:10.480 --> 0:52:13.160 rapping because I got a credit c B as a 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:15.360 person that made me want to start rapping. But also 0:52:20.680 --> 0:52:21.440 there another CB. 0:52:22.080 --> 0:52:27.360 You know, we don't know, we don't know. 0:52:28.880 --> 0:52:34.680 Anyways, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the person that made me want. 0:52:35.000 --> 0:52:37.040 You can relate to him because he was a singer 0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:39.919 like for me, like I was like, yeah, I really 0:52:39.960 --> 0:52:42.160 want to really really really rap. And I feel like 0:52:42.160 --> 0:52:44.319 even y'all, I ain't never heard me really really rap, 0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.640 and I could play out you got a double album. 0:52:47.200 --> 0:52:50.160 The double album, I was like, he could you can 0:52:50.200 --> 0:52:52.440 listen to Minny Kelly, you know on vices you know 0:52:52.480 --> 0:52:54.279 what I mean, and hear me spit and whatnot, But 0:52:54.320 --> 0:52:56.960 I got some other songs and whatnot where it's like, 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:00.279 I think that's the hardest part about being me, like 0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.239 because it's like, you know, I really don't feel like 0:53:03.239 --> 0:53:06.799 there's as it's like a catch twenty two almost because 0:53:06.800 --> 0:53:08.920 it's not a It's not a singer out there that 0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:10.520 can rap better than me, and there's not a rapper 0:53:10.560 --> 0:53:13.040 that could sing better than me. So it's like, I'm like, 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:15.279 but where do I fit in in this industry? But 0:53:15.360 --> 0:53:21.120 to answer your question, I probably yeah, I mean singamore 0:53:21.239 --> 0:53:23.600 and who made me want to rap? Or when did 0:53:23.600 --> 0:53:26.000 I start taking rap? Seriously, there was a reverse that 0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:29.759 Jay V did on a song called Click and I 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:32.120 remember you know for a long time, Wayne was my 0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:34.560 favorite rapper for a long time. Way I got to say, 0:53:34.680 --> 0:53:37.160 I can't believe I forgot bro He the main person 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.319 that made me want to rapt. Way yeah, A little wait, 0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:43.279 but then Broa when I think when you stuff, when 0:53:43.280 --> 0:53:44.960 I seen be doing it, I was like, oh yeah, 0:53:44.960 --> 0:53:46.480 maybe I should try to fuck it, you know what 0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.520 I mean. I start trying and and but you know, 0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:52.560 I was never really that good at it, Like you 0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:55.040 go back to my twenty eleven twenty ten shit, I 0:53:55.080 --> 0:53:58.279 wasn't that good at it. And then I heard people 0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.200 used to always say jay Z was the best for 0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:02.920 best rapper to ever do it, and for me, I 0:54:03.000 --> 0:54:05.480 never really understood it because and then I heard him 0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:07.920 say someone times like yo, people just ain't listening so 0:54:07.960 --> 0:54:10.040 they can't catch up to what I'm saying, something like that. 0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:13.160 And then one day, you know, I just heard, like 0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:16.040 you know, it was just like mumbo jumbo. You know, 0:54:16.200 --> 0:54:18.239 for me as a person who didn't really listen to 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.839 rap music, but Wayne somehow connected to me. But one 0:54:20.920 --> 0:54:24.160 day on the way to work ups this click versus playing, 0:54:24.880 --> 0:54:26.839 and then he said everything he said on that verse, 0:54:26.920 --> 0:54:28.920 and I said, yo, I just get it. 0:54:28.920 --> 0:54:30.520 It was like an awakening. I was like, yo, I 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:32.960 fucking get it. Jay Z is the best. I was like, yo, 0:54:33.000 --> 0:54:35.680 hold up. I was like, let me go back, let 0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:37.759 me listen to all this man ship. Then I started listening. 0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:39.760 I started understanding. I don't know if I got smarter 0:54:39.920 --> 0:54:40.640 or what. 0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:45.080 I got smarter than I finally started understanding what bro 0:54:45.200 --> 0:54:48.120 was saying. But like I started because I really appreciate words, 0:54:48.160 --> 0:54:49.600 you know what I'm saying. So he really is a 0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:52.480 worsmith for real. So like I started listening to everything 0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:55.040 he was saying. I was like, yeah, I gotta get 0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:56.960 better at rapping for sure, you know what I mean. 0:54:57.239 --> 0:54:59.399 And then shit, that's kind of. 0:55:00.560 --> 0:55:03.600 Jay Z's first album. I didn't I didn't even get it. 0:55:04.160 --> 0:55:06.600 I wasn't getting money at the time. Then I started 0:55:06.600 --> 0:55:07.080 getting money. 0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:07.839 I was like, you couldn't relate. 0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:12.600 You couldn't relate to that some money. 0:55:12.719 --> 0:55:16.920 I'm sorry, all right, I've been looking at your wrists 0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:23.520 this whole time. I'm a watch cornoisur holds of VVS diamonds. 0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:27.480 That is a very beautiful watch. What is that? 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:32.120 Uh? This is a rich Can you help me out here? 0:55:32.680 --> 0:55:37.239 It's just ibby right coat? Can you show it to 0:55:37.280 --> 0:55:37.640 the camera? 0:55:37.680 --> 0:55:41.680 Plan holy ship, it's it's blinding people, it's lying. 0:55:43.960 --> 0:55:45.759 I ain't gonna I stick out some braze bowl dust 0:55:45.760 --> 0:55:49.120 on it. I ain't clean this one. It looks it 0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.880 looks band appreciate it. I only got it because, I 0:55:51.880 --> 0:55:53.320 mean because of the tour and ship. I was like, 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:55.480 you know what, I ain't got no background dancers, none 0:55:55.520 --> 0:55:58.680 of that. So I was like, I need sometime some dancing. 0:55:58.800 --> 0:56:12.160 You know, I've never heard of that. 0:56:12.160 --> 0:56:15.640 That no bad his his risk is his background. Dann 0:56:15.640 --> 0:56:21.680 sas motherfucker believe that. Holy moly moly, your dad is 0:56:21.719 --> 0:56:23.560 a beautiful beautiful Are you in the watchers? 0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:24.040 No? 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:26.560 Not really, not really, No, you're not You're not in 0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:26.959 the ship. 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:31.000 I only got it, not really. 0:56:33.160 --> 0:56:36.600 Shot for you, just yo. But yo, I ain't gonna 0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.640 lie to you. I admire that for you, like the 0:56:38.719 --> 0:56:44.879 fact that the industry hasn't you know what I'm saying, 0:56:44.920 --> 0:56:49.279 Like I see your motherfucker into this industry and the 0:56:49.320 --> 0:56:52.120 way they come pause, the way they enter, and the 0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:55.680 way they consumed you. It's too different. You ain't let 0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:58.400 it affect you. You didn't let it make you a 0:56:58.520 --> 0:57:03.120 bad person. Trust me, I've saw it all. Thank you, 0:57:03.200 --> 0:57:05.080 and I'm gonna take a shot to you being human. 0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.640 Thank you, bro, appreciate that's real ship human. That's a 0:57:08.719 --> 0:57:12.879 crazy pause though, you know that, you know what I'm 0:57:12.880 --> 0:57:18.120 trying to say, like, yes, thank you, thank you for 0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:19.400 correcting what he paused me. 0:57:19.440 --> 0:57:19.680 Thank you. 0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:23.000 But you have no idea how many people you see 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:26.440 coming up pause and when when. 0:57:26.680 --> 0:57:28.800 When it's time for them to you know what I mean? 0:57:29.880 --> 0:57:32.000 And that's when they want to be humble, that's when 0:57:32.000 --> 0:57:33.160 they want to be cool people. 0:57:33.320 --> 0:57:36.120 And then no one takes their call. Man. 0:57:36.840 --> 0:57:47.360 Yeah, but boy when they there, homie, God, I tell 0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:51.400 them I'm there. I've been here twenty five years. 0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:57.760 I'm gonna stay here. You might not. I gat me more. 0:58:00.120 --> 0:58:06.120 I'm sorry I went. I went. No, but for real, man, 0:58:06.200 --> 0:58:13.040 like yo yo. I watched Rory and Maul your interview 0:58:14.280 --> 0:58:17.520 and Rory just called me as funny as hell. And 0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:20.720 Ory said that the time that he went to your show, 0:58:21.840 --> 0:58:23.920 it was the most females he ever seen. 0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:28.840 In New York City. Come out, maybe you gotta it's 0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.040 a breezy bubble, of course, you know what I'm saying. 0:58:32.520 --> 0:58:32.640 With me. 0:58:32.920 --> 0:58:34.920 I mean, but like they're there for the you know, no, 0:58:35.040 --> 0:58:39.480 they said this is your show, Chris Brown about show? 0:58:39.560 --> 0:58:41.360 It was your show? Yeah, come on. 0:58:44.680 --> 0:58:47.200 Rory said that he went to your show at Webster 0:58:47.280 --> 0:58:50.680 Hall and it was the most females in New York 0:58:50.760 --> 0:58:52.919 City that he ever saw. 0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:57.720 Did you know that? I mean he said it to you, Yes, 0:58:58.160 --> 0:59:00.360 he said it to you. You know, you know, you know, 0:59:00.520 --> 0:59:07.040 no is that is that something? Does that make you 0:59:07.120 --> 0:59:09.840 a sex symbol? Nah? Definitely not. Do you think you're 0:59:09.840 --> 0:59:12.840 a sex symbol? No? When you make sexy fucking music, right, 0:59:12.920 --> 0:59:16.439 I appreciate that, man, I appreciate that. No, I'm just nerve. 0:59:16.560 --> 0:59:16.720 Man. 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:19.560 Let's just be chilling. That was a whole gamer man, 0:59:19.600 --> 0:59:21.800 I just be chilling, like you know, the girls are 0:59:21.880 --> 0:59:23.960 like me, like me and the girls who don't you 0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.400 know whatever. I just make music and you know for 0:59:26.520 --> 0:59:30.760 people who you know love women, and I appreciate women 0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:33.760 a lot, so you know you don't think the new 0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:40.440 Definitely not. I'll be sure none of those. I'm just 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:42.920 a guy who's uh, I'm just I'm just a guy 0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:45.160 who's in the house. Break. 0:59:46.960 --> 0:59:49.000 I'm gonna take a shot for you, man, because I 0:59:49.080 --> 0:59:50.840 wanted to give you your flowers. 0:59:51.160 --> 0:59:53.720 Solo, Solo should go take a shot. I don't want to, 0:59:54.280 --> 0:59:58.440 and I just want to say something real quick. That's one. 0:59:58.520 --> 1:00:01.439 Everybody didn't know that. I just ran in New York City, 1:00:01.480 --> 1:00:02.400 motherfucking marriga. 1:00:04.880 --> 1:00:10.760 I think this is no other artists. I would have 1:00:10.800 --> 1:00:11.280 came out. 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:20.360 For a pause, stop that ship, bro, but I would 1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:21.160 have been in bed. 1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:24.800 Yeah, but they said I appreciate you got right, and 1:00:24.960 --> 1:00:27.760 I'm coming off he came shimmering. He was like, yeah 1:00:29.200 --> 1:00:35.960 for you, motherfucker because you and the motherfucker. So is 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:38.600 there anything that you felt like you didn't do in 1:00:38.680 --> 1:00:42.480 the industry that you is this something that you want 1:00:42.520 --> 1:00:43.680 to get an accomplished. 1:00:49.160 --> 1:00:50.960 I ain't really collaborated with all the people that I 1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:53.520 would have loved to collaborate. I won't name the names, 1:00:53.800 --> 1:00:55.800 but like, I really love but let's go it out 1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:58.640 there in a positive way. YEA, Yeah, Well I love artists, 1:00:58.760 --> 1:01:02.880 I love people that create. I appreciate icons. I appreciate 1:01:03.000 --> 1:01:06.040 people who you know, it's not easy to bring people 1:01:06.080 --> 1:01:09.000 out to your shows. You know, a thousand people, five 1:01:09.080 --> 1:01:11.400 thousand people, ten thousand people that some people doing fifty 1:01:11.440 --> 1:01:14.040 thousand and six the Bridge Bowl's crazy. So it's like 1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:17.600 anybody that can do that, like, I appreciate them, you 1:01:17.640 --> 1:01:19.640 know what I'm saying. And you know, there's so many 1:01:19.680 --> 1:01:21.520 people that I would just have loved to work with, 1:01:22.080 --> 1:01:24.040 not because I feel like it could do something for me, 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:26.520 or like it's gonna bring me more money or more fans, 1:01:26.680 --> 1:01:28.560 or like I get a chance to shit on them 1:01:28.920 --> 1:01:30.800 on the song and sang better than them, or rap 1:01:30.840 --> 1:01:32.800 better than them. But just because we get to make 1:01:32.880 --> 1:01:35.920 something create people to you know, to just enjoy and 1:01:36.000 --> 1:01:38.240 live with for their life, you know. And there's a 1:01:38.280 --> 1:01:40.520 lot of people in the industry that I really never 1:01:40.560 --> 1:01:42.560 got the chance to like sit in the studio and 1:01:42.640 --> 1:01:44.880 chop it up with and be like yo, whatever and 1:01:44.920 --> 1:01:46.800 then we make a song. You know. I used to 1:01:46.840 --> 1:01:49.160 think that that's how the music industry was, like, you know, 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:51.680 because in high school, I wasn't really the cool guy, 1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:54.800 so you know, but I was really fucking good at music. 1:01:55.240 --> 1:01:56.880 So I was like, you know, that made me cool. 1:01:57.360 --> 1:01:59.520 So whenever I started looking at the music industry, I 1:01:59.640 --> 1:02:01.520 was like, okay, ship, when I get a music industry, 1:02:01.520 --> 1:02:04.800 it's gonna be like I'm meeting all my my people. 1:02:05.080 --> 1:02:06.720 This is my table right here, like all the people 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:08.320 in high school that wasn't you know, I had no 1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:10.480 table there, like this is my table. And then I 1:02:10.560 --> 1:02:13.600 got there and it just was like more tables, a 1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:15.640 lot of tables. I was like, my damn, you know, 1:02:15.760 --> 1:02:18.680 and I was just like, holy shit. Uh so that's 1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:22.640 probably the one thing that I haven't done. But want 1:02:22.680 --> 1:02:25.160 me throw a couple of features that I think I 1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:30.720 would like I love shot that. I don't know if 1:02:30.720 --> 1:02:33.080 she that would come out the you know, she don't 1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:35.240 come out, but but I would. I would do that. 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:38.400 I would do that. Who's producing that I would? I 1:02:38.520 --> 1:02:41.880 mean probably probably Charlie, but I would let her do. 1:02:42.000 --> 1:02:43.560 I was like, yo, shot that, What do you need 1:02:43.680 --> 1:02:46.200 me to do? Like if it's just an ad lib? 1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:47.800 If I just got to sing in a lower octave 1:02:47.960 --> 1:02:50.000 under you and I don't even get no shine in 1:02:50.080 --> 1:02:51.680 time like no verse, you just sing it back up? 1:02:51.680 --> 1:02:54.000 I don't get it damn. You know, like I'm doing 1:02:54.080 --> 1:03:03.400 that taking a shot for that took still on? How 1:03:03.440 --> 1:03:08.000 about a joint with Josh? Yeah, I do that. I 1:03:08.040 --> 1:03:09.600 want I want them to push me to be a 1:03:09.680 --> 1:03:11.960 better singer for sure, you know, so I would. I 1:03:11.960 --> 1:03:13.840 would try to do some ship that I've never done before. 1:03:14.560 --> 1:03:19.320 Now up, up, who is somebody you would want to 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:24.480 write for? C? B. 1:03:25.200 --> 1:03:28.240 Drake? Those are people always named for, I mean, name 1:03:28.720 --> 1:03:32.840 a lot of female artists. You know, I haven't really 1:03:32.880 --> 1:03:36.480 gotten into my songwriting bag so like to be honest, 1:03:36.600 --> 1:03:38.560 like it's hard for me to really to say, but 1:03:38.640 --> 1:03:40.360 those will be the people that come to mind, like 1:03:40.480 --> 1:03:44.120 right away, and honestly newer artists who you know, don't 1:03:44.160 --> 1:03:46.600 have nothing at all, like let me, let me, let 1:03:46.640 --> 1:03:48.600 me write from ship for you, Like if there's somebody 1:03:48.640 --> 1:03:51.680 out there, honestly, another thing is like FIRS, a rapper 1:03:51.760 --> 1:03:54.920 with a really really really really good rapping voice, I 1:03:54.920 --> 1:03:57.560 would write for them just because, like the thing that 1:03:57.760 --> 1:04:00.560 about me is like the fact that I'm a singer. 1:04:00.960 --> 1:04:03.640 You know, people will never in a million years ever 1:04:03.720 --> 1:04:05.600 take me serious as a rapper. It's just how it goes. 1:04:05.680 --> 1:04:08.720 When you sing really good or whatever, you make really 1:04:08.720 --> 1:04:10.720 good R and B songs and then you rap, They're 1:04:10.720 --> 1:04:12.840 just gonna be like you're trying to rap. Even if 1:04:12.920 --> 1:04:16.400 you rap than anybody else, you know what I'm saying, 1:04:16.440 --> 1:04:18.600 It's just like nah, you're trying to blah blah blah, 1:04:18.720 --> 1:04:20.600 or like I don't like when you rap whatever. So 1:04:21.000 --> 1:04:22.720 I would take all my raps and I would give 1:04:22.760 --> 1:04:25.840 it to somebody who has that rapper you know, rapper 1:04:25.960 --> 1:04:27.840 voice and that rapper energy. You know what I'm saying. 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:37.120 You think like one time I came outside, right, I 1:04:37.240 --> 1:04:38.800 was in Puerto Rico, in fact, I'm going to Puerto 1:04:38.840 --> 1:04:41.520 Rico tonight, and the dude bumped into me. 1:04:44.120 --> 1:04:46.200 And he sung me my song. Guys, he was this 1:04:46.400 --> 1:04:49.480 is me as he was this singer. Yeah, he was like. 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:57.200 I looked at it and it's awesome to me. But 1:04:57.320 --> 1:04:59.760 I looked at this guy and I was like, holy shit, 1:05:01.320 --> 1:05:06.280 and I knew that record is bigger than me, but 1:05:06.560 --> 1:05:09.280 he knew it was you, right, hell no, oh that's 1:05:09.320 --> 1:05:12.320 even hell know, like the video wasn't really out. 1:05:12.280 --> 1:05:14.840 Like that, like you know what I mean, like Puerto Rican. 1:05:16.280 --> 1:05:19.520 Maybe he thought she looked like the video wasn't out yet, 1:05:19.640 --> 1:05:22.120 so he's no, it's he just really wanted to beef 1:05:22.160 --> 1:05:22.400 with me. 1:05:22.720 --> 1:05:25.440 And want to be for him that song in his head. 1:05:27.040 --> 1:05:30.480 Do you like, do you think that music sometimes superseds 1:05:30.960 --> 1:05:31.880 a person's image? 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:36.160 Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I'm one of those people. You know, 1:05:36.240 --> 1:05:38.840 there's so many people that be like I never knew 1:05:38.840 --> 1:05:40.800 what you looked like. There'd be some people that be 1:05:40.920 --> 1:05:41.800 trying so hard to. 1:05:41.880 --> 1:05:43.920 Not know what I look like because you're like you're 1:05:43.960 --> 1:05:49.320 like you're like hip hop's clark In. Yeah, you get 1:05:49.360 --> 1:05:50.960 what I'm trying to say, Like you can put on 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:53.600 your cape when you go perform, but then you can 1:05:53.680 --> 1:05:56.840 take it off and you go and be ship. And 1:05:57.880 --> 1:05:59.440 I said, I seen you in a restaurant. 1:05:59.520 --> 1:05:59.960 He was mad. 1:06:00.240 --> 1:06:04.120 I was think, you ain't loading. But what I'm saying 1:06:04.240 --> 1:06:08.000 is that's fucking that's genius. Yeah, that's genius that you 1:06:08.080 --> 1:06:13.920 can do. Do you feel like, because this is a 1:06:14.040 --> 1:06:17.280 very hard question, do you even like being famous? 1:06:18.280 --> 1:06:20.840 Nah? I was just talking to somebody about this earlier. 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:24.200 Nah, just because I mean, it definitely has this perks, 1:06:24.320 --> 1:06:26.360 you know, but like you don't want to wait and 1:06:26.360 --> 1:06:28.320 there's a couple of lines in the restaurant. Yeah, that's 1:06:28.360 --> 1:06:30.200 what I was gonna say, Like I get to skip 1:06:30.320 --> 1:06:31.320 up people the apple. 1:06:33.120 --> 1:06:34.680 I guess that's okay, you know what I'm saying, Like 1:06:34.800 --> 1:06:36.520 that's the one thing, and the other thing is like, 1:06:36.840 --> 1:06:38.280 you know, you still get to use your fame to 1:06:38.320 --> 1:06:41.200 get money later on in life, you know, m And 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:43.720 that's cool. But other than that, what other perks doesn't 1:06:43.760 --> 1:06:49.720 really have to being famous? You know? And bro, yeah, 1:06:49.720 --> 1:06:51.520 it's just like you know, I've never been, don't get 1:06:51.560 --> 1:06:53.280 me wrong. In the first year when I came out, 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:55.840 like it was cool to see people knowing who I was, 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:58.240 but mainly because I love music so much and the 1:06:58.320 --> 1:06:59.960 fact that people knew my music and they see me 1:07:00.040 --> 1:07:01.840 on the street, it was different. You know what I'm saying. 1:07:01.880 --> 1:07:04.920 It was like, oh, Ship, like people recognize me. But 1:07:05.120 --> 1:07:07.400 like after a while, I was like, Okay, I don't. 1:07:07.480 --> 1:07:10.080 I don't care to be famous at all. Like you're different. 1:07:10.440 --> 1:07:11.960 I want to walk around like I don't give a 1:07:12.000 --> 1:07:14.360 funk about Like I'll be the nigga waiting outside in 1:07:14.440 --> 1:07:16.000 the line to get in the club if I have to, 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.320 like I'll be trying to skip line and ship like 1:07:18.480 --> 1:07:20.280 I be chilling, you know, and I'm just. 1:07:25.600 --> 1:07:27.920 Look, Josey, you have a question, you have any questions 1:07:27.960 --> 1:07:30.440 you want to This is your biggest. 1:07:30.160 --> 1:07:39.480 Fan, you know. That's that's good. We got a song. 1:07:39.640 --> 1:07:41.080 We got a song. Let's repeat? 1:07:41.120 --> 1:07:41.560 What is. 1:07:43.120 --> 1:07:46.040 Okay? Yes? Yeah, shout out to Caroline. Man, we've been 1:07:46.080 --> 1:07:48.880 friends for a long time. You know, we both kind 1:07:48.880 --> 1:07:51.640 of came into the music industry somewhere around the same time. 1:07:51.680 --> 1:07:53.400 And uh yeah, we got we got, we got, we 1:07:53.440 --> 1:07:55.640 got a song together. You know, we always just been 1:07:55.880 --> 1:07:58.200 you know, real friends. So like, you know, we never 1:07:59.000 --> 1:08:01.720 forced the music. We do have something. I think it 1:08:01.880 --> 1:08:06.080 might be coming out. I don't know, so yeah, yeah, Ship, 1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:08.600 I'm taking a shot for that. I'm sorry, man, Yeah, 1:08:09.480 --> 1:08:15.840 so what what what is I know? 1:08:15.960 --> 1:08:18.639 I asked this earlier, so my access him reverse because 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:21.719 I asked alive and you picked Drake and you picked 1:08:22.040 --> 1:08:24.479 So Now I was like, what would be your dream 1:08:25.560 --> 1:08:29.000 collab of a person that's passed away? Who would you 1:08:29.040 --> 1:08:30.400 Who would you dig up from the grave? 1:08:32.520 --> 1:08:38.960 Mm hmm. That has to be music, right, No, I mean, 1:08:39.040 --> 1:08:44.160 go ahead, pick anybody. Now that's direction because like I 1:08:44.240 --> 1:08:46.160 love I swear to god, I love music so much, 1:08:46.240 --> 1:08:47.920 but like not to the point where I wanted to 1:08:48.200 --> 1:08:52.880 think him up out of the grave. Okay, grave, Like, man, 1:08:52.920 --> 1:08:54.920 I wish I wish you could have did a song 1:08:55.000 --> 1:08:57.000 like I don't think I like, I don't think I 1:08:57.080 --> 1:09:00.200 cared that much about music. But if there's somebody I 1:09:00.280 --> 1:09:01.840 was like, I just wish I could have picked their 1:09:01.880 --> 1:09:03.680 brain and just talk to them and tell them to 1:09:03.680 --> 1:09:06.360 tell them about my ideas. Be Steve Jobs. For sure, 1:09:07.680 --> 1:09:10.880 I didn't expect that, but I didn't. I'm really really 1:09:11.000 --> 1:09:14.360 curious about just like what was going on? Is oude 1:09:14.360 --> 1:09:16.679 of his mind? You know I'm mistaking about. 1:09:17.240 --> 1:09:20.760 Okay, So let me ask you this, speaking of Steve Jobs, 1:09:21.080 --> 1:09:22.120 do you respect streaming? 1:09:22.640 --> 1:09:27.400 Streaming? Yeah, well, I gotta say streaming is the main 1:09:27.479 --> 1:09:31.479 reason why I'm the highest certified R and B song. 1:09:31.760 --> 1:09:33.639 So, like I remember at one point people were mad 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:37.040 at you for keeping loading up a sound Clouds. They 1:09:37.120 --> 1:09:38.880 wanted you to stay on Apple, they wanted you to 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:42.200 be pe. You kept you kept going back to sound 1:09:42.439 --> 1:09:46.640 even Soundclouds still streaming. Yeah, it's almost like free though, 1:09:46.720 --> 1:09:49.120 like Geff free, and a lot of people don't really 1:09:49.520 --> 1:09:51.919 I mean sorry SoundCloud, but there's a lot of people. 1:09:51.680 --> 1:09:52.920 That don't have it, you know. I mean they're going 1:09:52.960 --> 1:09:55.560 to Spotify, They're going to Yeah, that platform is not 1:09:56.240 --> 1:09:59.840 used as much as it. Yeah, but I gotta you know, 1:10:00.040 --> 1:10:02.400 a soft spot a special place in my heart for 1:10:02.479 --> 1:10:05.320 SoundCloud because for one reason, and one reason only really 1:10:05.439 --> 1:10:10.360 is just because it's just lip not just that too 1:10:10.760 --> 1:10:14.120 thousand percent. And in this instant, like when I'm feeling 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:17.479 something like and I love what I'm doing, I'm like, 1:10:17.560 --> 1:10:20.240 I gotta drop this tonight, right. You can control when 1:10:20.240 --> 1:10:22.120 that compit? Yeah, I can drop. I can litle go 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:24.519 on my computer. That that is, that is that is 1:10:24.600 --> 1:10:26.240 I can't do that way for music. I can't do 1:10:26.320 --> 1:10:28.840 that with Spotify. I got a call this person and 1:10:28.920 --> 1:10:32.760 that's the second for the Yeah, and as an artist, 1:10:32.800 --> 1:10:34.160 I ain't really trying to do all that, you know 1:10:34.200 --> 1:10:36.479 what I mean, Like if I'm just feeling something, you know, 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:38.479 fans like, we want music, we want music, you know 1:10:38.520 --> 1:10:40.800 what I'm saying. I feel like SoundCloud is the easiest way. 1:10:41.360 --> 1:10:42.800 But you know, so a lot of times when I 1:10:42.840 --> 1:10:44.880 did that, they would be pissed because they're like, why 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:47.320 are you still dropping on SoundCloud? Like you know you're 1:10:47.360 --> 1:10:48.200 getting free music? 1:10:48.240 --> 1:10:50.080 What do you mean about a lot of artists came 1:10:50.120 --> 1:10:52.320 out for SoundCloud, but there was a whole generation of 1:10:52.439 --> 1:10:53.360 art discovered. 1:10:53.400 --> 1:10:56.439 I believe he's king. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1:10:56.479 --> 1:10:57.960 You know what I'm saying, Like, you got to give 1:10:58.400 --> 1:11:02.920 SoundCloud his credit? Yeah, yeah, we will. And it was 1:11:02.920 --> 1:11:03.679 another time. 1:11:05.360 --> 1:11:08.439 You posted a picture online with your girl, people were 1:11:08.520 --> 1:11:09.320 mad at you that you. 1:11:09.320 --> 1:11:16.600 Were happy that happened. Yeah, what the fuck is this? So? 1:11:17.240 --> 1:11:19.960 Is it true that they want they want you guys 1:11:20.040 --> 1:11:24.120 to be sad to make a thousands. They think that 1:11:24.240 --> 1:11:25.920 you have to be sad to make good. The reason 1:11:26.000 --> 1:11:28.280 why they were I just know they wanted you to 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:29.000 they want me to be. 1:11:30.560 --> 1:11:30.760 Yeah. 1:11:30.840 --> 1:11:31.000 Yeah. 1:11:31.080 --> 1:11:33.479 They would always tell my girl, like, you know, break 1:11:33.560 --> 1:11:35.960 his heart so we can get into love. Man, I'm 1:11:36.040 --> 1:11:37.120 kind a terrible fan. Is that? 1:11:37.320 --> 1:11:37.479 Man? 1:11:37.880 --> 1:11:43.320 This is horrible. It's hard. Yeah, yeah yeah. 1:11:43.640 --> 1:11:46.519 Do you do you believe that that you have to 1:11:46.600 --> 1:11:48.160 go through pain to make your music? 1:11:48.400 --> 1:11:49.920 No, that's not the case at all, because a lot 1:11:49.920 --> 1:11:51.960 of people are like, yo, Trap, So he was heartbroken. 1:11:52.040 --> 1:11:53.720 It's just like, how do you How would y'all know 1:11:53.840 --> 1:11:57.120 that I'm heartbroken? You know what I mean? Nobody knew 1:11:57.160 --> 1:11:58.360 what I was going on, and I don't want to 1:11:58.360 --> 1:12:00.240 spoil the magic for nobody. I'm not going to y'all 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:01.439 who Trap Soul was about. 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:01.840 Who. 1:12:02.520 --> 1:12:03.920 I'm not gonna I don't even want to ruin it 1:12:03.960 --> 1:12:06.439 for people, So like, think whatever you think. But like, 1:12:06.920 --> 1:12:10.519 you know, I definitely wasn't heartbroken. You know. It's just 1:12:10.600 --> 1:12:13.439 like as humans, we have we have our days, you know, 1:12:13.479 --> 1:12:15.760 we go we go through specific things. One day we 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:18.599 might be feeling this way, you know, and like when 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:20.240 I'm feeling a certain way, I wrote about it. You know, 1:12:20.760 --> 1:12:23.160 I'm feeling happy and I'm feeling good, like I'm about 1:12:23.200 --> 1:12:25.200 to make it and like all my ex is gonna 1:12:25.200 --> 1:12:27.320 be calling I made this song. Sorry, not sorry, you 1:12:27.360 --> 1:12:29.400 know what I'm saying. So it was like it was 1:12:29.479 --> 1:12:32.200 different emotions, you know, that I was feeling so well 1:12:32.240 --> 1:12:35.320 for people to be like, you know, yeah, break his 1:12:35.400 --> 1:12:38.120 heart so we can get a new album. Like bro, 1:12:38.280 --> 1:12:41.080 I just you know, it's not my job, you know, 1:12:41.240 --> 1:12:45.200 like y'all need therapist, yeah, for real life or like 1:12:45.439 --> 1:12:48.479 you know, I mean even my my Solid, the album 1:12:48.520 --> 1:12:52.320 that I just released was the first time since Trap, 1:12:52.479 --> 1:12:53.560 so I was like, you know, what the fuck it, 1:12:53.560 --> 1:12:56.559 I'm gonna be super vulnerable, you know, and talk about 1:12:56.640 --> 1:12:58.560 like some of my hard times and what I'm what 1:12:58.640 --> 1:13:01.800 I'm going through, so so people can just relate to it, 1:13:01.840 --> 1:13:03.760 because I know that sometimes people need to hear other 1:13:03.800 --> 1:13:06.320 people talk about their feelings so they could feel comfortable 1:13:06.320 --> 1:13:08.800 to talk about theirs or you know, like they need 1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:11.400 something that's gonna help them heal and to heal me ship. 1:13:11.520 --> 1:13:13.240 Like I was listening to the you know, my last 1:13:13.280 --> 1:13:16.360 album Solid on the on the treademill a lot. But 1:13:17.000 --> 1:13:19.479 I still think it's fucked up that, like, you know, 1:13:19.600 --> 1:13:22.000 people would just you know, I think they do that 1:13:22.120 --> 1:13:24.519 to Ryle Wave too. They're like, yo, make sad music again. 1:13:24.600 --> 1:13:26.479 It's just like he he ain't or not, like he 1:13:26.479 --> 1:13:28.040 don't want to do sad kind of do it to 1:13:28.160 --> 1:13:32.000 Oi y'all. It kind of went y'all side yeah, but 1:13:32.160 --> 1:13:34.120 like that's like you got you got some other issues 1:13:34.120 --> 1:13:37.439 you gotta work out. There's so many other songs music 1:13:37.479 --> 1:13:39.679 that you can listen to. That's like for me personally, 1:13:39.800 --> 1:13:42.120 like I'm not listening to those sad music to help 1:13:42.200 --> 1:13:46.639 me get through my sadness. Like so see me personally, 1:13:46.680 --> 1:13:48.600 like I'm not. That's not like I think I was 1:13:48.680 --> 1:13:52.919 listening to Latin music the entire time I was heartbroken. 1:13:52.920 --> 1:13:54.920 I was listening to nothing but Latin music because I 1:13:54.960 --> 1:13:56.720 didn't understand none of the lyrics and I was like, 1:13:57.360 --> 1:13:58.960 I was like, it sound like music and they happy 1:13:59.000 --> 1:14:06.640 and talk about exactly. I'm just like, yo, this is 1:14:06.680 --> 1:14:08.800 what I'm rocking, you know what I mean, just because 1:14:08.800 --> 1:14:10.360 like I don't want to hear nothing that's gonna put 1:14:10.400 --> 1:14:14.560 me deeper in that, you know, Like yeah, like I 1:14:14.600 --> 1:14:17.479 don't know. So I hate that, I really do, But 1:14:18.040 --> 1:14:19.519 at this point it don't matter to me no more. 1:14:19.520 --> 1:14:22.000 They can say whatever they want, make this type of music, 1:14:22.040 --> 1:14:23.640 make that type music. I'm going to make whatever the 1:14:23.720 --> 1:14:24.639 fuck I feel like making. 1:14:24.840 --> 1:14:29.280 You know, so, you're one of the only artists that 1:14:29.439 --> 1:14:32.760 dropped the double album, and like this era. 1:14:33.520 --> 1:14:35.720 Oh for real? Yeah, what do you mean this era? 1:14:35.920 --> 1:14:38.400 Like I believe the last time a double album was 1:14:38.439 --> 1:14:39.479 Biggie and Tupac. 1:14:39.840 --> 1:14:45.240 No, no, no Scorpion. Oh it's a double goddamn it? 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:47.880 My bad? Yeah, all right, my bad. 1:14:48.320 --> 1:14:51.120 You know, niggas I recognized dropping a double album. 1:14:51.080 --> 1:14:53.599 I would say that this might be. I mean, now, 1:14:53.600 --> 1:14:55.599 I got to say that Bruh's album was a true 1:14:55.640 --> 1:14:58.519 double album too, though, because he did like arm mostly 1:14:58.600 --> 1:15:00.160 like R and B feels and shouldn't. 1:14:59.840 --> 1:15:03.680 Rap on right, Okay to me, let me make my 1:15:03.800 --> 1:15:07.840 question make more sense us knowing that you being the writer, 1:15:08.479 --> 1:15:10.040 like we want to get paid for like eight to 1:15:10.160 --> 1:15:13.920 ten songs when you do that double album, that double 1:15:14.040 --> 1:15:17.160 album is basically that second album is basically a giveaway? 1:15:17.760 --> 1:15:19.200 Did you honestly you knew that? 1:15:20.960 --> 1:15:21.200 Yeah? 1:15:21.720 --> 1:15:24.280 Shut out? Shut out my manager, man, you found out 1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:26.200 talking a lot about this. But like, I don't be 1:15:26.280 --> 1:15:29.280 doing it for that reason. Man. I think what I 1:15:29.439 --> 1:15:32.080 was going through with Solace and Ship, it was so 1:15:32.600 --> 1:15:34.360 sad that I was like, bro, I just want to 1:15:34.400 --> 1:15:36.240 have fun. I ain't trying to think about all the 1:15:36.280 --> 1:15:39.719 other ship And the main reason I did, I decided 1:15:39.760 --> 1:15:41.720 to make it a double album. Solace was supposed to 1:15:41.720 --> 1:15:44.160 be his own thing, and then the Vices was like, 1:15:45.520 --> 1:15:47.920 you know when I dropped whatever She Wants or whatever 1:15:48.040 --> 1:15:50.479 that came out and it was going crazy. I was like, 1:15:51.320 --> 1:16:01.639 whatever he wants, God damn it. Man, like up that record. 1:16:02.040 --> 1:16:04.760 Every time a person gets into an argument with the girl, 1:16:04.880 --> 1:16:06.080 they girl plays whatever. 1:16:06.240 --> 1:16:12.240 See it's cool to you man ahead, but nah, So 1:16:13.479 --> 1:16:16.040 when I had that song, it was going crazy. I 1:16:16.160 --> 1:16:18.400 had my last album, which is called it was the 1:16:18.439 --> 1:16:20.920 Bright until album was self titled, and I was like, 1:16:21.200 --> 1:16:22.640 it was like mostly like a bunch of R and 1:16:22.760 --> 1:16:25.840 B shit, and I was like, yo, I was sitting 1:16:25.880 --> 1:16:27.439 on the four minute. I was like, Yo, let's pivot, 1:16:27.880 --> 1:16:29.479 let's do it. Let's do it like an album that 1:16:29.560 --> 1:16:32.040 feels like this, that's catered to the women, that's fun, 1:16:32.200 --> 1:16:34.880 just flying vibe, you know what I mean. And you know, 1:16:35.000 --> 1:16:36.880 they was like, nah, we should just you know, we 1:16:36.920 --> 1:16:39.559 should just put it as a bonus on this album. 1:16:40.040 --> 1:16:42.400 And you know, I was a little upset about that 1:16:42.439 --> 1:16:44.680 because I was like, I guess we can do that, 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:46.640 you know. So we ended up putting it as a 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:49.679 bonus on the album, and you know, it just sucks 1:16:49.680 --> 1:16:51.800 because it's like it's the most popular, it's the most 1:16:52.000 --> 1:16:54.840 stream song on that album, and like, you know, even 1:16:55.040 --> 1:16:57.080 I feel like even Quincy Jones would listen to the 1:16:57.120 --> 1:17:00.080 album maybe, like nah, this ain't the best song on 1:17:00.120 --> 1:17:02.240 the album, you know what I mean? This is lod 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:05.280 whatever she wants, whatever the fuck I'm talking about, you 1:17:05.360 --> 1:17:07.120 know what I mean. But that's other songs like Prize 1:17:07.200 --> 1:17:09.280 on there or like just I won't even get into it, 1:17:09.320 --> 1:17:10.840 but that's songs where I'm really singing, I'm putting a 1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:13.360 lot of armonies in Charlie Heat really doing his thing, 1:17:13.479 --> 1:17:16.360 and like they all got overshadowed and overlooked because people 1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:18.920 is looking for whatever she wants. They're like, Yo, where's 1:17:18.960 --> 1:17:21.320 that where's that energy at? You know what I'm saying. 1:17:21.840 --> 1:17:24.120 And I wanted to do that, but you know, people 1:17:24.400 --> 1:17:28.040 you know labels like nah, So you. 1:17:28.360 --> 1:17:31.479 Think you are like a victim of your own success, 1:17:32.240 --> 1:17:36.800 because now I'm gonna give you an example, right and 1:17:36.880 --> 1:17:39.000 then I know you went through this, so I'm gonna 1:17:39.080 --> 1:17:43.280 just say it. When I did what what What? 1:17:43.520 --> 1:17:43.560 What? 1:17:44.479 --> 1:17:46.479 Then I came out with oh no, right after that, 1:17:47.160 --> 1:17:50.880 it was the same exact thing, and they compared it to. 1:17:50.960 --> 1:17:53.759 That don't was so huge. 1:17:54.120 --> 1:17:57.439 Yeah, that they kept comparing you know what I'm saying 1:17:57.520 --> 1:18:02.040 like that, it's not don't, but it's it's good. Do 1:18:02.160 --> 1:18:04.160 you do you feel like you're victim of your own 1:18:04.200 --> 1:18:08.720 success like that? Oh no, uh, because everywhere they say 1:18:08.760 --> 1:18:11.240 the compared to your last head, they always compare to see. 1:18:11.080 --> 1:18:11.840 Your last Yeah. 1:18:11.880 --> 1:18:13.240 Yeah, that's what I mean, That's what I'm That's what 1:18:13.280 --> 1:18:13.840 I'm trying to say. 1:18:14.880 --> 1:18:17.519 Well, fortunately for me, don't wasn't my last head, you 1:18:18.600 --> 1:18:19.200 know what mean? 1:18:19.400 --> 1:18:19.599 Yeah? 1:18:20.040 --> 1:18:23.080 But yeah, like yeah, I've heard people say make another don't, 1:18:23.479 --> 1:18:25.640 But like I've always been the type of artist that, like, 1:18:27.600 --> 1:18:30.120 I'm not trying to make the same song. And there's 1:18:30.160 --> 1:18:32.599 people out there that will argue, like all his music 1:18:32.680 --> 1:18:34.519 sound the same, He's just making the same song over 1:18:34.560 --> 1:18:36.760 and over and over about you. Yeah, yeah I've heard that. 1:18:37.840 --> 1:18:40.280 But like I'm just boalid because the songs that literally 1:18:40.360 --> 1:18:42.240 don't sound like each other at all, you know what 1:18:42.280 --> 1:18:45.600 I mean. But now, like I don't like trying to 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:48.120 make the same like even me as an artist, Oh no, no, 1:18:48.240 --> 1:18:51.519 I'm sorry. As a fan listening to artists, I'm not like, Yo, 1:18:52.160 --> 1:18:55.720 I need Frank Ocean to make another Channel Orange. I 1:18:55.800 --> 1:18:57.639 need him make I need jay Z to make another 1:18:57.640 --> 1:19:00.360 you know what I mean? Like for what made it? 1:19:00.680 --> 1:19:02.920 You know what I mean? Like he already made it 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:04.560 for me to listen to, So like why do I 1:19:04.600 --> 1:19:06.880 need him to go make another one of those? But 1:19:07.000 --> 1:19:09.160 a lot of these fans nowadays, they just they really 1:19:09.280 --> 1:19:11.720 and shiit. People might see this and be like, nah, 1:19:11.800 --> 1:19:13.200 you don't know what he's talking about. We need you 1:19:13.280 --> 1:19:15.360 need to go back and make it again. Like it's 1:19:15.439 --> 1:19:17.080 like nah, but that's not how it works, you know. 1:19:17.439 --> 1:19:21.920 Like you know, so for me, I don't really pay 1:19:21.920 --> 1:19:23.920 too much attention when people say that. I just keep 1:19:24.000 --> 1:19:27.519 making ship And you know, I'm so glad. I thank 1:19:27.600 --> 1:19:29.880 God that I'm blessed and I've been able to just 1:19:30.000 --> 1:19:33.439 continue to take care of my family and and make 1:19:33.479 --> 1:19:37.120 money in the music industry doing whatever the fuck. But 1:19:37.240 --> 1:19:38.760 I really want to do you know what I'm saying. 1:19:39.040 --> 1:19:42.559 But I listened to him every Here's when I when 1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:46.160 I do my fans a solid, you know, those people 1:19:46.200 --> 1:19:51.720 that really rock with trap soul. Every anniversary, So like 1:19:51.760 --> 1:19:53.839 when it's a five year anniversary or a ten year anniversary. 1:19:53.880 --> 1:19:56.320 For the five year anniversary, I dropped the album called Anniversary, 1:19:56.800 --> 1:19:59.880 paying homage to Trap Soul, which is my first album. 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:02.240 Like I didn't call it Trap so Too because I'm 1:20:02.240 --> 1:20:05.559 just like, that's that's just suicide. I'm like, but I'm 1:20:05.560 --> 1:20:09.479 gonna compare it, you know what, But I'm compared it anyway. 1:20:09.560 --> 1:20:11.880 But like this is what that is. You're paying how 1:20:11.920 --> 1:20:14.479 much to yourself, like to it. So I did that, 1:20:14.600 --> 1:20:17.439 and then on the ten years I dropped Solad, so 1:20:17.560 --> 1:20:19.679 I was like, yo, I'm paying homage and I'm going 1:20:19.800 --> 1:20:22.320 back and tapping into that bag, you know, even getting 1:20:22.320 --> 1:20:24.000 the old beats that I was listening to back then. 1:20:24.680 --> 1:20:27.120 But even still it don't matter, like they're still gonna 1:20:27.120 --> 1:20:28.960 be like nah, it's still not the same, you know 1:20:29.000 --> 1:20:31.560 what I mean. But you know it's like when you 1:20:31.640 --> 1:20:34.080 hear people make new new Christmas music, you know what 1:20:34.080 --> 1:20:36.920 I'm saying, Like somebody might make a new original Christmas 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:38.680 song and it ain't gonna hit as hard as the 1:20:38.720 --> 1:20:41.439 Frank Sinatra and all that, you know, all them Christmas songs. 1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:45.120 Then you make a Christmas album. I did, but it's 1:20:45.160 --> 1:20:51.840 not a shame, yeah, but not making a point that like, 1:20:51.880 --> 1:20:57.120 you know, it ain't nostalgia. People are really driven by 1:20:57.200 --> 1:20:58.519 nostalgia and they think like. 1:20:59.160 --> 1:21:01.599 Now, but they can plain now and then five ten 1:21:01.680 --> 1:21:04.360 years later look back at Oh man, that was great. 1:21:04.439 --> 1:21:07.360 Yeah, that's exactly. That's why you can't listen to it 1:21:07.439 --> 1:21:09.960 in and now. Nope at all. He's got to keep 1:21:10.000 --> 1:21:12.360 moving forward and even listen to none of that. I 1:21:12.600 --> 1:21:15.080 just right now. I'm in the space ever since twenty twenty. 1:21:15.600 --> 1:21:18.360 You know, I recently posted something like, yo, it's a 1:21:18.400 --> 1:21:21.360 common misconception that pricing till it don't drop enough, And 1:21:21.400 --> 1:21:23.600 I hate hearing that shit he don't drop enough. But 1:21:23.720 --> 1:21:26.880 like I've been dropping ever since twenty twenty, Like I 1:21:26.960 --> 1:21:29.840 haven't stopped. It's the algorithm, it's the social media, it's 1:21:29.880 --> 1:21:33.000 all that. It's the brutal industry that's keeping me suppressed 1:21:33.479 --> 1:21:36.240 and keeping me, you know, smothered to where it's like 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:38.640 nobody would ever know that I'm releasing, you know what 1:21:38.680 --> 1:21:42.000 I mean. Twenty twenty, I dropped my anniversary album twenty 1:21:42.040 --> 1:21:44.360 twenty one, I dropped I Think the Deluxe, and then 1:21:44.439 --> 1:21:46.200 I went into the Christmas album, and then I dropped 1:21:46.240 --> 1:21:49.479 a ten year anniversary of my first mixtape ever, Killer 1:21:49.560 --> 1:21:53.559 Instinct Too, and then I dropped BTA, the album which 1:21:53.600 --> 1:21:55.680 I was working on nine stop putting out singles when 1:21:55.680 --> 1:21:58.080 I could, and then then I came out with slum 1:21:58.160 --> 1:22:00.479 Till the mixtape. Singage was Whatever she Wants was featured 1:22:00.520 --> 1:22:03.640 on That's three three I think three of them. And 1:22:03.760 --> 1:22:06.360 then I came out with a double album this year 1:22:07.120 --> 1:22:09.000 and like I'm working on the next ship, you know 1:22:09.040 --> 1:22:14.200 what I'm saying. So it's like I can't I'm saying 1:22:14.200 --> 1:22:15.760 all that to say, like you know, it's just people 1:22:15.840 --> 1:22:17.320 like all here and dropping. I was just like, nah, 1:22:17.360 --> 1:22:20.000 you just you know, you can't. You can't see it, 1:22:20.040 --> 1:22:20.600 you can't hear it. 1:22:20.640 --> 1:22:22.760 And that's cool, you know, just the mean lot of 1:22:22.880 --> 1:22:27.720 question for me, this is my favorite question in Dream 1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:28.479 Champs history. 1:22:29.960 --> 1:22:36.240 Independent or major. I never experienced what it was like 1:22:36.320 --> 1:22:39.800 to be independent, so I couldn't really tell you. I'm 1:22:39.800 --> 1:22:42.720 trying to learn a little bit more. I'm trying to 1:22:42.760 --> 1:22:46.360 I'm trying to learn. I'm trying to learn a little 1:22:46.360 --> 1:22:48.799 bit more what what what it means to be independent. 1:22:48.840 --> 1:22:52.439 That's somebody I was gonna reach out to. Don't that 1:22:52.560 --> 1:22:55.479 I want to be not that I want to be independent, 1:22:55.600 --> 1:22:57.599 but more so just because I just want to understand 1:22:57.960 --> 1:22:59.400 what it means to be independent. 1:22:59.439 --> 1:23:02.120 I would imagine in the R and B field, it 1:23:02.120 --> 1:23:03.799 would be a lot more different. 1:23:04.000 --> 1:23:06.439 I would say. Right now, as an artist, it feels 1:23:06.479 --> 1:23:08.920 like that the labels are just bank, you know, like 1:23:09.720 --> 1:23:14.719 just what a bank? Yeah, I mean that you're correct, 1:23:15.600 --> 1:23:17.200 because it's not like they're taking this song. 1:23:17.080 --> 1:23:20.479 And making it independent is wrong. But listen, you can't 1:23:20.560 --> 1:23:22.559 say that right now. It's different than back then. 1:23:22.720 --> 1:23:24.680 Man, we got, we got, we got. Back then we 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:27.360 got what's my man name? N B A young boy 1:23:27.360 --> 1:23:35.080 and that's it. He independent. Now I forgot, I forgot, 1:23:35.080 --> 1:23:37.679 I forgot, all right, But what I know, man, there's 1:23:37.720 --> 1:23:40.280 a lot who else is killing the independent? 1:23:40.400 --> 1:23:44.800 Come on, russells Russell ship you make it points then 1:23:44.840 --> 1:23:49.519 you will to the Russ and Russells, Russell and Russ 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:53.080 Oh Christian artists? 1:23:53.360 --> 1:23:57.559 No, bro, who's the wressel Man from the area? Oh 1:23:57.760 --> 1:24:00.400 my bad? Okay, okay, my bad. I thought it was 1:24:00.560 --> 1:24:04.439 La Russell, but yeah, maybe it is Russell. Yeah yeah, 1:24:04.960 --> 1:24:07.920 but you ain't fucking independent. I mean, I don't know 1:24:08.360 --> 1:24:11.880 who who's I'm signing r C. Okay, I've been signing 1:24:12.200 --> 1:24:18.360 like that. He liked that major. I'm signed R G A. 1:24:18.479 --> 1:24:20.000 I mean, I don't know if that's good or bad, 1:24:20.200 --> 1:24:21.760 but like you know, shout out to them. As long 1:24:21.800 --> 1:24:23.840 as that money comes along. Yeah, as long as you're 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:25.639 successful and flourishing. 1:24:26.200 --> 1:24:30.000 Independent is yeah, you don't want to be independent, you know, 1:24:30.479 --> 1:24:31.200 you don't listen. 1:24:31.280 --> 1:24:32.240 Don't listen to this guy. 1:24:32.320 --> 1:24:38.640 Man like the Wall, it's not for everybody, but you 1:24:38.640 --> 1:24:41.160 will go back to the Sheraton and not good. 1:24:45.320 --> 1:24:49.000 And he's speaking from the era in the nineties when 1:24:49.040 --> 1:24:51.160 the labels were flushed with money and they were just 1:24:51.680 --> 1:24:53.360 showing these artists with money. 1:24:53.479 --> 1:24:56.320 Yeah, so he's talking from a different area, the Major. 1:24:56.520 --> 1:25:03.760 That sounds fun when you stay in Major. Yeah, no, 1:25:04.360 --> 1:25:06.880 hold on, let me cheers with you. What is that 1:25:07.240 --> 1:25:14.160 ma majuana? What exactly? It's room based? It's a Dominican drink. Okay, 1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:21.840 who over there? All Dominicans? 1:25:21.920 --> 1:25:27.760 All Dominicans when they find out they drinking wanat. 1:25:31.320 --> 1:25:31.920 You open up. 1:25:32.880 --> 1:25:36.400 Let's talk about the game for a second. Stuart, Uh, 1:25:36.520 --> 1:25:42.439 you've been is that it ship? Holy moleague wakamo brutal industry? Okay, 1:25:43.120 --> 1:25:44.479 so you're selling a console. 1:25:44.680 --> 1:25:46.600 I'm not selling the console, but like this is a 1:25:46.920 --> 1:25:50.599 handheld what consoles a handheld piece, It's called an antag. 1:25:51.000 --> 1:25:52.839 I got like six of them. But it's like different, 1:25:54.000 --> 1:25:56.120 and your phone is a Macintosh. What it looks like? 1:25:56.160 --> 1:26:01.560 Actize you really want to see now? But this is 1:26:01.920 --> 1:26:03.760 this is brutal industry. It's like it's like I said, 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:06.040 it's a handheld PC, so I can like extract files 1:26:06.040 --> 1:26:09.160 and ship. But you know, I basically just download. Every 1:26:09.200 --> 1:26:12.240 Friday we get a new build that comes out, and yeah, 1:26:12.240 --> 1:26:14.120 I download my game on here, I test it out, 1:26:14.439 --> 1:26:16.519 we play it, we see where it goes. And you 1:26:16.560 --> 1:26:17.880 know what I'm saying? And what is it like a 1:26:17.920 --> 1:26:20.720 downloadable app game or is it it's a real game 1:26:20.800 --> 1:26:22.520 that comes out on all platforms. 1:26:22.840 --> 1:26:25.519 And uh so I have to buy that council to 1:26:25.560 --> 1:26:29.080 get that? No, no, no, the Xbox yeah, Xbox any 1:26:29.160 --> 1:26:32.960 anywhayo switch? How about my phone downloaded? 1:26:33.000 --> 1:26:36.880 And wow too? Yeah, so I started working on this 1:26:37.000 --> 1:26:40.439 back in twenty twenty. And uh, but is that your 1:26:40.560 --> 1:26:44.720 console that you know it is? Okay? Yeah? Just so 1:26:45.000 --> 1:26:48.720 uh that little Yeah, I've never said it like some 1:26:48.880 --> 1:26:49.519 Japanese ship. 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:49.880 Yeah. 1:26:50.479 --> 1:26:52.600 Antex. This is like I was gonna give it to 1:26:52.640 --> 1:26:54.160 my daughter because we got pink on it, but I 1:26:54.240 --> 1:26:55.840 just bought it to see how it runs my game 1:26:55.960 --> 1:26:58.640 or whatever. But it's a handheld PC essentially, it's just 1:26:58.720 --> 1:27:01.880 a PC Windows essentially. So and what's the premise of 1:27:01.920 --> 1:27:05.840 the game. I heard he's killing CEOs. Uh, he wants 1:27:05.840 --> 1:27:09.719 to be independent. It's about it's about the music industry. 1:27:13.120 --> 1:27:20.040 I can't say, yeah, yeah, it's telling leles and. 1:27:24.960 --> 1:27:27.519 It's a very satirical game about the music industry. You know, 1:27:27.640 --> 1:27:30.439 I think a lot of times this industry is like 1:27:30.920 --> 1:27:33.760 the ship that I go through is laughable. You know. 1:27:34.040 --> 1:27:36.720 I'm just like, damn, Like, I can't believe that is 1:27:36.840 --> 1:27:37.200 that way. 1:27:37.320 --> 1:27:37.479 You know. 1:27:37.760 --> 1:27:40.559 I've been somebody that's in the house, Like I said, 1:27:40.600 --> 1:27:43.479 I'm a nerd, like I play video games, and I've 1:27:43.520 --> 1:27:47.639 seen this music industry ship. Make somebody send some goons 1:27:47.680 --> 1:27:50.080 after me, like we gotta get Brice until it touched 1:27:50.560 --> 1:27:54.439 because of they get touched because he disrespected me man 1:27:54.479 --> 1:27:56.880 and he owed me or whatever. That's just like, damn, bro, 1:27:57.439 --> 1:28:00.479 it's a brutal industry, man like, And I think it's sad. 1:28:00.640 --> 1:28:03.479 It's really sad that, you know, artists are gonna have 1:28:03.560 --> 1:28:05.640 to go through this ship. You gotta ship that you 1:28:05.760 --> 1:28:07.960 might not expect. Like I said, I stopped talking to 1:28:08.000 --> 1:28:10.160 everybody when my daughter was born just to see you 1:28:10.240 --> 1:28:12.479 know what I mean, I didn't know what was gonna happen. Yeah, 1:28:12.479 --> 1:28:14.479 who's gonna fuck with me? And then once I popped off, 1:28:14.720 --> 1:28:17.519 which I didn't know was gonna happen, all of a sudden, 1:28:17.520 --> 1:28:19.280 everybody started coming out the world words talking about oh 1:28:19.479 --> 1:28:21.840 miss oh, I'm met, and we're gonna we're gonna put 1:28:21.840 --> 1:28:26.040 death threats outside the house. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, like 1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:29.519 O W E. So yeah, that's just you know, and 1:28:29.560 --> 1:28:31.720 then dealing with egos in the music industry, dealing with 1:28:31.960 --> 1:28:37.800 the media, you know what I'm saying, like media, but 1:28:37.960 --> 1:28:39.840 like you know, there's some people out there that are, 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:42.040 like y'all that they got malicious intent and they're doing 1:28:42.120 --> 1:28:44.000 it because they know, you know, like I said, there's 1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:46.160 gonna be some clips from this ship that I'm probably 1:28:46.160 --> 1:28:47.840 gonna hate to see. But I ain't even on social 1:28:47.880 --> 1:28:50.400 media right now, like I'm just chilling. H no, broom, 1:28:50.439 --> 1:28:55.960 turn this off, but out right now. But not like 1:28:56.120 --> 1:28:58.479 you know, the industry is just it's fucked up with 1:28:58.640 --> 1:29:02.200 artists have to go through, you know, just there's so 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:04.760 many different things that I just have made characters out 1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:07.519 of and I love anime and there's a lot of 1:29:07.560 --> 1:29:11.120 anime influenced in this game. And yeah, I just. 1:29:13.040 --> 1:29:16.240 I just want to give you a slight bit of advice. 1:29:17.640 --> 1:29:23.360 You're a legend. Uh, let me let me finish your 1:29:23.360 --> 1:29:27.679 a legend. You're on your way to be in the icon, 1:29:29.920 --> 1:29:34.280 and there's moments that I don't want you to to miss. Yeah, 1:29:35.240 --> 1:29:39.360 enjoy this ride is cool. This ride is cool and 1:29:39.640 --> 1:29:43.720 and and I feel like you're being careful. So you're 1:29:43.800 --> 1:29:45.880 not like really in like you know what I'm saying. 1:29:46.360 --> 1:29:47.960 You're looking at the ride, but you know that. 1:29:48.040 --> 1:29:49.320 That that ride is going to go up. 1:29:49.479 --> 1:29:52.400 You're in Great Adventures, right, so you know that you're 1:29:52.400 --> 1:29:55.559 on the ride, So you're being super careful and you're 1:29:55.640 --> 1:29:58.800 not I want you to enjoy this more. You are 1:29:58.800 --> 1:30:02.080 a legend, bro, You're a legend. These people came out here. 1:30:02.160 --> 1:30:04.439 Look at all these people turn around. We do this 1:30:04.600 --> 1:30:10.000 for ten years. Everyone was like, listen, you're alleged. So 1:30:10.200 --> 1:30:15.160 I went as you know you know what your own family. 1:30:15.600 --> 1:30:18.040 You're our family, whether you know it or not. You 1:30:18.080 --> 1:30:20.560 know what I'm saying, Like, coming through Rich Rich is 1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:24.160 my family. You want my family. I'm your family, and 1:30:24.240 --> 1:30:26.200 I want you to enjoy this a little bit more, 1:30:26.520 --> 1:30:28.320 if I can give you a little bit of advice, 1:30:29.880 --> 1:30:33.920 just a little bit of advice. Enjoy this ride because 1:30:33.960 --> 1:30:36.599 so many people ain't gonna get this, so many people 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:38.720 like I just ran on New York City Marathon and 1:30:38.800 --> 1:30:41.760 I've seen people fall in front of me. They felt 1:30:41.920 --> 1:30:45.400 they came right to the fucking finish line and fell 1:30:46.720 --> 1:30:49.040 and I couldn't pull them because they wouldn't wh me. 1:30:50.520 --> 1:30:52.599 But you're at the finish line, and I'm gonna tell 1:30:52.600 --> 1:30:55.559 you something. I want to pull you with me because 1:30:55.640 --> 1:30:59.080 you are a good dude, and enjoy this motherfucking ride 1:30:59.080 --> 1:31:00.439 because it's ride is beautiful. 1:31:03.720 --> 1:31:06.240 I'm sorry I got got old, got older, old on 1:31:06.360 --> 1:31:06.720 your own. 1:31:07.000 --> 1:31:10.519 That was old, but yeah, not for real, because I 1:31:10.640 --> 1:31:11.840 was just living a beautiful life. 1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:12.000 Man. 1:31:12.040 --> 1:31:15.200 If you heard my question, I'm just what's what? What's 1:31:15.240 --> 1:31:19.160 the legend to you? To you? To me? 1:31:20.080 --> 1:31:25.519 A legend is person who stays outside, who doesn't listen 1:31:25.600 --> 1:31:29.000 to the critiques of these people fall for both of 1:31:29.080 --> 1:31:31.680 our second album, and they comes back outside and the 1:31:31.840 --> 1:31:34.559 press bevers and keeps going. And I know that word 1:31:34.680 --> 1:31:37.559 might have just sounded a little crazy, but it keeps 1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:42.120 going and does not let anybody crack them, And let 1:31:42.200 --> 1:31:43.040 me just tell you something. 1:31:43.240 --> 1:31:46.759 You have done that. You have done that already. Celebrate yourself. 1:31:46.880 --> 1:31:49.840 Pat yourself on the back, and just in case if 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:52.120 you don't want to, I'll help you pat yourself on 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:55.640 the back. Bro, you are fucking legend. Accept that ship, bro, 1:31:56.080 --> 1:32:02.200 accept it because because that's the That's the beautifulest thing 1:32:02.240 --> 1:32:08.960 about this is I know that you're accepting where you at. 1:32:10.600 --> 1:32:13.160 But you're also like, man, fuck this all right, which 1:32:13.240 --> 1:32:13.599 is cool. 1:32:14.280 --> 1:32:19.519 I've been there. But you have to look over that ship. 1:32:19.640 --> 1:32:19.760 Bro. 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:22.559 You already made it. You're already who it is. There's 1:32:22.560 --> 1:32:26.519 people who already look up to you. Yeah, they're inspired 1:32:26.560 --> 1:32:29.200 by you. So you just got to accept that ship. Bro, 1:32:29.479 --> 1:32:31.240 You're a fucking legend and accepted. 1:32:32.080 --> 1:32:37.640 I'm just is that cool? Is that cool? Yes? I 1:32:38.080 --> 1:32:38.880 just want you to know that. 1:32:38.960 --> 1:32:41.439 I want you to know that, like for real, because 1:32:42.840 --> 1:32:46.799 I know what you humble, Yeah, and sometimes being humble 1:32:47.800 --> 1:32:51.960 it's next to being like not accepting your credits, you 1:32:52.000 --> 1:32:54.719 know what I'm saying. And now you got to accept 1:32:54.760 --> 1:32:57.160 your credits. Bro, You got to look at the fucking 1:32:57.360 --> 1:32:58.960 the end of the film, the end of the film. 1:32:59.040 --> 1:33:01.720 Your name is dead as fucking executive you know what 1:33:01.760 --> 1:33:04.479 I mean. Solute to you, brother, Thank you, bro, Solute 1:33:04.479 --> 1:33:07.200 to you, appreciate it. And salute to your crew for 1:33:07.320 --> 1:33:13.320 holding them down. Salute to you being here man, because 1:33:13.360 --> 1:33:15.719 this is this is this is beautiful and I wanted 1:33:15.720 --> 1:33:18.600 to give you your flowers, brother, and I thank you. 1:33:19.439 --> 1:33:24.760 But this is the last question. How many babies do 1:33:24.760 --> 1:33:27.200 you think you made? Damn? 1:33:28.040 --> 1:33:28.160 Uh? 1:33:30.840 --> 1:33:33.360 Did you make love making music? Motherfucker? You know people 1:33:33.400 --> 1:33:34.960 used to say that to me, and I never understood 1:33:34.960 --> 1:33:37.840 because I was like, really making love to this, like 1:33:38.439 --> 1:33:41.800 motherfucker's to your ship. That's wowd I don't know, man, 1:33:42.040 --> 1:33:47.520 I'm happy that I contributed you like three three thousands, 1:33:48.360 --> 1:33:53.320 maybe three hundred thousand babies, who knows, man. I really 1:33:53.439 --> 1:33:56.960 just hope that I made a lot of men question 1:33:57.280 --> 1:33:59.760 question the decisions, you know what I'm saying, and and 1:34:00.479 --> 1:34:02.880 or not even just had just people men they relationships 1:34:02.920 --> 1:34:05.719 that they might have broken, you know, more than babies. 1:34:05.880 --> 1:34:07.760 You know, hopefully some babies came out of that. But 1:34:07.880 --> 1:34:09.920 like you know, if you just meant like I just 1:34:09.960 --> 1:34:11.160 want to help people get through. 1:34:11.040 --> 1:34:15.160 They they mentioned the sart their relationships or just really 1:34:15.200 --> 1:34:17.200 think about it, like damn, you know what, maybe maybe 1:34:17.240 --> 1:34:19.040 I did up. You know, maybe I need to like, 1:34:19.880 --> 1:34:21.960 maybe I need to revisit that and and see it 1:34:21.960 --> 1:34:23.000 from a different perspective. 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:25.880 So, so, is there ever a record that you you 1:34:25.960 --> 1:34:28.519 thought you went too personal on? Because I know you 1:34:29.000 --> 1:34:38.160 personal question? Uh ship, I can't. I can't recall right now. 1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:41.800 Especially not about your girl your ex's. Yeah, I can't, 1:34:41.960 --> 1:34:42.519 I can't recall. 1:34:42.720 --> 1:34:45.400 Just leave that alone, like you never released music or 1:34:45.439 --> 1:34:47.439 an album and and kind of like social media. 1:34:47.280 --> 1:34:48.880 Where you kind of like I kind of exposed too 1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:51.639 much there. Definitely my second album for Shure, I was like, yeah, 1:34:51.640 --> 1:34:55.960 I'm saying, wait, way too much, you know, Like the 1:34:56.040 --> 1:34:58.679 Alcum cover itself was inspired by like that that MTV 1:34:58.800 --> 1:35:01.280 show is called True Life or something shit, exposing like 1:35:01.360 --> 1:35:03.080 what people are like really going through. I was like, 1:35:03.560 --> 1:35:05.120 this is all I know that I'm just telling them 1:35:05.120 --> 1:35:07.240 what I'm going through. So but it was too much, 1:35:07.479 --> 1:35:09.400 you know. So listen, man, what day? 1:35:09.479 --> 1:35:11.559 Me and you going, Hey, I just diss each other 1:35:11.680 --> 1:35:13.080 about our second album. 1:35:14.960 --> 1:35:18.519 Because you ain't letting it go. And his second album 1:35:18.600 --> 1:35:19.759 is a classic in my opinion. 1:35:20.600 --> 1:35:24.640 So I relate to you so much because I know 1:35:24.840 --> 1:35:27.960 exactly how you feel. Because it's exactly how I feel. 1:35:28.479 --> 1:35:29.840 But thank you man for being here. 1:35:29.920 --> 1:35:31.360 Man. I appreciate that man. 1:35:31.600 --> 1:35:35.160 Appreciate your energy, appreciate rich appreciate all this. 1:35:35.160 --> 1:35:37.400 Ship man like Yo, You're a legend. 1:35:37.479 --> 1:35:37.599 Man. 1:35:37.640 --> 1:35:42.880 I want to give your flowers. Take a picture. 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