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Speaker 1: every queens rapper. He ain't agreed as your boy in

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Speaker 1: O r E. He's a Miami hip hop pioneer. What

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Speaker 1: ups d j e f N? Together they drink it

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Speaker 1: up with some of the biggest players you me and

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Speaker 1: the most professional unprofessional podcast and your number one source

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Speaker 1: for drunk drinks chans mother Postcavery Days New Years. See listen,

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Speaker 1: It's time for drink Champs. Drink up mother. Would it

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Speaker 1: gonna be hoping people to this year? Boy n A

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Speaker 1: O n A A. What up is dj e f N?

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Speaker 2: It's mill Tammy crazy boar drink Champs yep makes something.

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Speaker 2: Now when we talk about this person, we talk about

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Speaker 2: a person who makes hits, give out hits, fifteen million

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Speaker 2: sold in your face, and he don't even be liking

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Speaker 2: to be in front of the public. He don't even care.

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Speaker 2: He just makes hits for any reason. We are gonna

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Speaker 2: give him his flowers today. He deserves it, from being

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Speaker 2: in front of the camera to behind the camera to

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Speaker 2: he makes your your favorite artist a better artist because

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Speaker 2: he's been pinting this ship for allbody. And in case

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Speaker 2: you don't know what we're talking about. My mother, Oh

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Speaker 2: do you bring your mother? Listen, listen to my brother.

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Speaker 2: I want to get straight to the interview, because silu man,

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Speaker 2: I've been doing this, what.

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Speaker 1: Ten years, about about to be ten years.

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Speaker 2: So I first off, let me, let me let me

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Speaker 2: pick you up for being on time. I bet against you.

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Speaker 2: I bet that you would not be on time. So

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Speaker 2: that's what we do. We we based it on with

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Speaker 2: the artist uh order, Like we know if anybody order

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Speaker 2: hey and see, it's gonna be a different interview.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: We know patroll like certain things. But when you ordered

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Speaker 2: as the Spade, I was like, it's gonna be smooth,

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Speaker 2: that's one. But I said, he's going to show up late.

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Speaker 2: But but so I I I lost on the show

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Speaker 2: up lay and.

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Speaker 1: We showed them and we showed up. We sucked up.

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Speaker 1: So we apologize.

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Speaker 2: So like I said, I was trying to point. I

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Speaker 2: discovery of an artist. That's one of the thing, yo, bro,

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Speaker 2: you really are hate maker? Like is that something that

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Speaker 1: Uh. I definitely got to say I set out to

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Speaker 1: you get as many hits as Bro. But somebody just

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Speaker 1: I guess that's really what it is with somebody, you

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Speaker 2: What's the song that you made for somebody else that

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Speaker 1: That I regret for somebody else? What do you mean

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Speaker 1: I feel like every week something crazy what was happening.

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Speaker 1: So I can't really one hundred percent remember, but it

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Speaker 2: Well, let's we're ready for quick Thomas. Let's go, Let's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you got you gotta.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but some PARTA I love this ship.

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Speaker 2: I've been trying to get you, to get you on

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Speaker 1: You really are. You know what I love about you?

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Speaker 2: Like it's a rumor that you don't just go in

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Speaker 1: I like that. You know some people would come and

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Speaker 1: He would do anything. But you know, we got it done.

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Speaker 1: mind so like at that point, and then they really

432
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:25,359
Speaker 1: they really was like, nah, we gotta we gotta do

433
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,439
Speaker 1: something about this this guy, you know what I mean,

434
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,119
Speaker 1: this dude who like switched up on us. So they

435
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 1: just start pulling every trick out the you know what

436
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,000
Speaker 1: I mean. I'm just like add it up. I'm like,

437
00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 1: can I just make music to be happy about it?

438
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 1: But like the industry was just beat me up man

439
00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:42,240
Speaker 1: for a long time, you know, and I just I

440
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,200
Speaker 1: wasn't funk with it. So that was the whole reason

441
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,960
Speaker 1: why I was like, he was like put it in music,

442
00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 1: you know. I was like, put it into music, But like,

443
00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 1: don't nobody wanted that? But were you were you musically

444
00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,600
Speaker 1: trained in anyway? No, No, not at all. I'm really

445
00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 1: just a studio geek at the end of the day.

446
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 3: Like because hearing you talk about the doctors and all that, Yeah, yeah,

447
00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 3: I'm sure most of the.

448
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,439
Speaker 1: People even were I don't know, just go ahead and

449
00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,280
Speaker 1: sing that or I know a little a couple of things,

450
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,639
Speaker 1: you know, not for real, I'll just be in a

451
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 1: studio like fucking with shit, and I like, I mean

452
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 1: it's still a lot that I don't know, but like

453
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,199
Speaker 1: you know.

454
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: You know, it was something I'll relate to you very much.

455
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 2: It's how tough you are on yourself. Watch your second

456
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: album like I you did. I'm gonna lie me hearing

457
00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,399
Speaker 2: you talk about your second album, I'd be like, damn,

458
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 2: I thought I was bad on myself. I actually had

459
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 2: a line Melvin Flint dropped my whole colossal stop. I

460
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 2: can't believe I'm fucked up and made a half assed album.

461
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,160
Speaker 2: My excuse is my pops just died and I ain't

462
00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 2: want to make music. My pops just died. I hated

463
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:50,359
Speaker 2: my second album, and I listened to the critics. I

464
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:54,120
Speaker 2: listened to the haters, and you're probably the only other

465
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,199
Speaker 2: artists in the world that I know that related to that.

466
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 2: I was sitting there watching all your interviews and I

467
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,360
Speaker 2: was like, holy, somebody is just as hard on theyself.

468
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 1: But but have you outgrown that or I want to

469
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,480
Speaker 1: say that there's like a bit of a common misconception

470
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: because every time I see these clips, I always see

471
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: some of my bands coming to my defense, like I

472
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 1: just want him to know how good blah blah blah

473
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 1: appreciate it, but I'm just like, yo, it's not about that.

474
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 1: But the common misconception is this, like a lot of

475
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: people think that I became depressed after my second album.

476
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,399
Speaker 1: It was after the first one that everybody tells me

477
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 1: now it's such a classic, and it was like this,

478
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 1: that and the third. It was after that win that

479
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,840
Speaker 1: where I was like where I was fucked up, you

480
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Trap Soul came out, and it's

481
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 1: just because, like I said, like the fame all that,

482
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,080
Speaker 1: it was all new to me. So it's like when

483
00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,920
Speaker 1: it came out and I started seeing all these critics

484
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,840
Speaker 1: going crazy on Trap. So that's when it made me

485
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,399
Speaker 1: have imposter syndrome. And I was like, I don't know

486
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,159
Speaker 1: what I'm doing, you know what I'm saying. I was like,

487
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 1: I thought that I did something. It wasn't until about

488
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: two years at two three years after that where people

489
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: was really like, yo, this is this is a dope album.

490
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Guess what. I had a label,

491
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,199
Speaker 1: I had another tour, a tour, a tour agreement that

492
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,000
Speaker 1: I had to fulfill. I had to drop another album

493
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: and because had imposter syndrome. You know what, bro? Yeah, exactly,

494
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 1: so it was like I didn't get time if I

495
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the money thing. You know,

496
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,360
Speaker 1: that's it, right, Okay, that's the money that I shouldn't

497
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: have took at that moment because it's like the.

498
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:27,120
Speaker 2: Same exact thing with me. I'm sorry because I relate

499
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: to it so much. Was they had gave me so

500
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 2: much money, and how I'm gonna tell them not to

501
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 2: go to the studio, you know what I mean?

502
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: Like I spent the money and I was definitely using it.

503
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:35,879
Speaker 2: So I was like I had to go to the

504
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 2: studid but it wasn't time for me, you know what

505
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So if you could do anything to redo

506
00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 2: the process of making that album, what would you do different?

507
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made it. I would have waited a while,

508
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have made it. But also I was

509
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 1: gonna say that I would have worked with writers because

510
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: that was the era when everybody was like Jake with

511
00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: the platinum with no features, so everybody was so stuck

512
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: on it, and then they was like he went platting

513
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: with no features again, and I was just like, damn,

514
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,199
Speaker 1: like I gotta go platinum with no because you know,

515
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: my first ship platinum with no features. I was like,

516
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 1: all right, I guess I'm gonna go platinum with no

517
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,959
Speaker 1: features again. You do that twice? Did I do it twice?

518
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

519
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's going on out here? Years later,

520
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: but it happened though, you know. But anyways, I think

521
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,040
Speaker 1: I was so hung up on that and like I said,

522
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 1: imposter syndrome. So like a big part of me was like, man,

523
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, if I could go back in time, really

524
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: what I would have did, I wouldn't have I wouldn't

525
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 1: have made an album. I would have waited to see

526
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: what the fun was gonna happen with my first album.

527
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't have the luxury of doing that because

528
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 1: you know, money running dry and something like, damn, you

529
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: know what am I gonna you know what I'm gonna do?

530
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: So you had your kid too, right, my kid? And

531
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:47,720
Speaker 1: you know at that point there was a lot of pressure.

532
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,959
Speaker 1: I was just like, I can't go back to ups.

533
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 1: I can't go back to Papa John's right, you know,

534
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: I gotta do something. And that number was nice, so

535
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna take it, you know, I

536
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: had to, and yeah, just put me. It really put

537
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: me behind and you know, after and then that shit

538
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: came out because, like I said, I went in my

539
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 1: mind and then the critics went in and that just

540
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: really sent me to yep.

541
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 2: But like following you, listening to you, I can tell

542
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 2: that you let.

543
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: The critics get to you. Yeah, get to you. I

544
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: did too.

545
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 2: I did too, Like so I'm the same human being,

546
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,919
Speaker 2: like like, I know what's crazy. My first album, I

547
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 2: got four and a half mics in the source right,

548
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,359
Speaker 2: which is a big deal. Which was a big deal,

549
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 2: so I was supposed to celebrate that. But my second

550
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,399
Speaker 2: album got three mics, and I celebrated the failure of

551
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 2: the three mics more than I celebrated the success. And

552
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: I let the people get to me. But for years

553
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,199
Speaker 2: later it was it.

554
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,199
Speaker 1: Was people, you know.

555
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 2: I would see them in the airport and they'd be like.

556
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: Why the funk would you just this album?

557
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: The album changed my life, and I had to sit

558
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,879
Speaker 2: back and I had to say, you know what, this

559
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,879
Speaker 2: ship wasn't about me. So that's why I asked you,

560
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: did you go back to me visit that and say, like,

561
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 2: you know, you know you you answer the question man,

562
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 2: when you said, yeah, I can't even listen to it.

563
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: You know the fans that you want me to do

564
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: a couple on tours. So it's like there some of

565
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,680
Speaker 1: them I cans like, like the more the more popular ones,

566
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: but a lot of them, I'm just like, it's the

567
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,359
Speaker 1: same ship with the cald song. Like when I hear

568
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: the Calis song, I hear I heard my second out,

569
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I'm just like, this is

570
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 1: not where I need to be. He was like, put

571
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,959
Speaker 1: it into the music. That was literally what I did.

572
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't even know what to make

573
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,919
Speaker 1: music about. And I was like, fuck it, i'ma just

574
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 1: I guess put it in the music and talk about

575
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:35,639
Speaker 1: ship that I'm going through. And it's crazy because, like

576
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: you know, I remember one time I had another one

577
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,239
Speaker 1: of those manifestation dreams and I was in Australia and

578
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,439
Speaker 1: my manager at the time was like, yo, you know,

579
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 1: actually I skipped apart. I had a dream I'm sleeping

580
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,199
Speaker 1: in the in the in the bed whatever. And my

581
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 1: dream I was in my hood, my old hood in Louisville,

582
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: and they was a jet just flew down in the

583
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: middle of the hood and jay Z and Beyonce got

584
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 1: off of it, and jay Z was like, were having

585
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: some dreams. He was like, Yo, what you doing here?

586
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 4: Bro?

587
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 1: I was just like I don't know, and then like

588
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but I ended up waking up. Right.

589
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: My manager calls me, was like, Yo, you know how

590
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: you say you've been looking for a mentor right, And

591
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: I was like yeah, he said, Yo, jay Z won't

592
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: talk to you. I was like huh and he was

593
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: like yeah. I was like, okay, cool. So you know,

594
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: I think Lenny s put us on the group text

595
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,680
Speaker 1: or whatnot. And then you know, jay Z was talking

596
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: to me about my second album. He was like, yo, man,

597
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you know, I appreciate you know, Yo,

598
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: I heard when you talked about this and him just

599
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: breaking down ship, and I was saying, really meant a

600
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 1: lot to me, Like damn, that's crazy, Like you know,

601
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: even though I had, you know, the second album didn't

602
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: perform or whatnot, like I had, you know, jay Z

603
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,720
Speaker 1: pick me up on that ship to me personally, and

604
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,399
Speaker 1: that just made me be like you know what, fuck it,

605
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: Like I just got to keep pushing forward, you know

606
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: what I mean.

607
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 3: Fucking awesome, bro Thomas dream all right, so this is

608
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: our drinking game We're going to give you two choices.

609
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 3: If you pick one of the choices, we don't drink.

610
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 3: But if you say both or neither, like we didn't

611
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 3: want to pick anybody or whatever, then we drink.

612
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: And everybody drink.

613
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: I got a feeling he's gonna be want to be

614
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 2: politically correct, and.

615
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: They say, really did this anybody? We just want to

616
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 1: bring up stories.

617
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, anything big a story, buddy, bring it up.

618
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: And and really the choice is really depending on whatever

619
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: for you. It's your criteria. It's it's it's not who's

620
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: better at anything specifica And then I gotta drink these

621
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: right here, right, Yeah, that's that's hockey. Yeah, okay, okay,

622
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: if you want, okay, you can sip to By the way,

623
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,160
Speaker 1: we don't make up these questions. It's the cocaine section

624
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: over there. Colombian and the Dominican right there. They make

625
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: up these questions.

626
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,160
Speaker 2: So if you get mad at anybody, let's just look

627
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: over there. Rich knows them both. He'll he'll send it up.

628
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 2: This is this is this is one I enjoy saying

629
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: m J or Prince.

630
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: MJ. MJ. Yeah, yeah, I mean because I play video

631
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: games and like I grew up with m J. You

632
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: know Michael Jackson Moonwalker.

633
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 2: So you know you got your own video game? Drop

634
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: it dropped the radio.

635
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, Okay, I'm working on them. Okay, okay,

636
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: jodas He or one twelve. I'm gonna go one twelve.

637
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: I love Joashy, but I'm gonna go one twelve though

638
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: they got like different type of sauce. Chris Brown or Usher.

639
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: I love Usher, but I'm gonna go see Breezing. Yeah,

640
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: just got talk with him too. Yeah, like we're yeah

641
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: Jack Carlo or boss Man Dilo. I gotta go with

642
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: the home with the home team. You know what I'm saying.

643
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: I love boss Man. I gotta go with the home team. Timberlin,

644
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: Ard Pharrell.

645
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a shot for you.

646
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: This one's challenging because it's like him when uh.

647
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: So, I just about one in the next one, Okay, Okay,

648
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 2: well I like all three. The next one, okay, yeah,

649
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 2: you go to the next you take the next one, boy,

650
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: wondered Charlie.

651
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 3: Heat Ah, that's a crazy question, man, Charlie.

652
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Charlie, Yo, hud away, Way, I didn't pick yet, don'tkay.

653
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: I'm just talking to my brother directly so hard because

654
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: like Charlie, my favorite Charlie, my favorite producer ever, you

655
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because he just you know, he's

656
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 1: my favorite producer I've ever worked because he'd just be grinding.

657
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: He's always always ready to work on some new ship.

658
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,239
Speaker 1: You know, we try everything. You know, we didn't need

659
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: a Paw Patrol song to Michael Jackson that song or

660
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: a rap song like just everything Patrol. So yeah we did. Yeah, yeah,

661
00:29:55,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna be more hyper. Yeah, tell him like that.

662
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: That's me here, he'll know it. But anyways, but boy,

663
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: one day, he's just somebody that's just been you know,

664
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 1: me and him. We probably only got like two records

665
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: together or some three, I don't know, but like he

666
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: just super down the earth guy and probably one of

667
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: my best friends in the music industry for show because

668
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: he's always kept it solid. So I gotta take a shot.

669
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot with you, man. Follow cheers, just.

670
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder And by the way, Stevie, Steve, did you

671
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,440
Speaker 2: see the new story that we just put out about

672
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 2: Stevie again?

673
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: We need Stevie on drinks already. Man.

674
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: I think if I see Stevie, he sees me, he's

675
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: gonna stop me. He's gonna stop.

676
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: So we just.

677
00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Deon Cole on here, and Deon Cole said that Stevie

678
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 2: want to back this.

679
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: Girl, damn, and then up the slop back like a bitch.

680
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: Ste Well, I don't think Stevie gets on jokes anymore.

681
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: I think Stevee's mad at us bro. I think I

682
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: think I'm not sure. I'm not too many stories, man,

683
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 2: so too many stories people.

684
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: Have come on here.

685
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 2: So the Eisley Brothers came on here said they seen

686
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: Stevie j Stevie on crossing the Highway.

687
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 3: A business street, not the Highway Man street.

688
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: So I don't think he's trying on jokes for money anymore. Ahead,

689
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: next one's big Stevie wonder stee.

690
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, I want to I want to ask

691
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 2: this one Drake or Tory lanez Rake. Okay, you got

692
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: records for both? He said, I got you.

693
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: Got records for both. It ain't about that, you know.

694
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: I love Toy. Toy is super dope artist. I think

695
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: he's just amazing, you know. But I grew up with Drake.

696
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: Okay, so now let me ask the more controversy question

697
00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 2: Drake Kendrick.

698
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: That's easy. I mean, I love Kendrick Labar, but it's

699
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: straight because of your relationship. Relationship. But it's like, I

700
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: just that's the music that I've studied, Like got it,

701
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: you know, like, yeah, makes sense? Cool?

702
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 3: Al Green and Marvin Gaye Marvin gay Okay, Whitney Houston

703
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: did you all put three in this one?

704
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: They went crazy?

705
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 3: Whitney Houston and Mariah Carey. Okay, it's the cocaine section.

706
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna get roped up one of these days. I

707
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: just gonna not grab people.

708
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Mariah Carey. Okay, I'm not answering

709
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 2: this one. You asked that one.

710
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: Uh Beyonce, Arihanna.

711
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Mm hm.

712
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 5: Hm hmm, Kanye or Swiss Beats Dama, Uh let me go, yeah.

713
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 2: Okay to speak total or s w B that's w okay.

714
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 2: Curtis Mayfield or slod Stone.

715
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: I don't know slod Stone, but I do know of

716
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: Curtis Mayfield. So you're going d J Collin or DJ Drama.

717
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,239
Speaker 1: I love you Drama, but I gotta go with my

718
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: brother Calin. So right, he climbing over the walls and gates.

719
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: You should like that you gotta go with them mark

720
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 2: uh fat Joe or Rick Ross.

721
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: I gotta say fat Joe just because, like you know,

722
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: I got you know, richest, one of the richest best friends.

723
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: So he's just like one of the first famous people

724
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 1: I've been around, you know what I mean? That like

725
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: treating me, you know, like a human. So that's why

726
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: I gotta make no noise. But we got one more. Well,

727
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: they were going to send a couple more.

728
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: Okay, but that's a question. Did you ever have a

729
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 2: chance to be on a terror squad?

730
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: Uh m? Was that something? Is that a quiz if

731
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: you don't thinks? So? I don't think. So I mean

732
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:25,280
Speaker 1: that Joe to me don't seem like type of guys

733
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 1: is ready to snatch up artists, like you know, even

734
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: lost money. She was saying, like rich, Like you know,

735
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: rich could have made money off me plenty of times

736
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: and just never wanted to. Like was like, yo, I

737
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: want you to be in the best possible I don't

738
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: want to. I don't you know what I mean. I

739
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: don't want to just be a manager or sign you

740
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: to my homie just because like I could get paid

741
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: off of it. He wanted me to be in the

742
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: best situation, and I have you and Joe ever worked together? Yeah,

743
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 1: I did a song. I did a song for my

744
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: long time ago oh wait, and then I did another

745
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: song with him and uh when he did the album

746
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 1: with with Dre Cool with Drake, okay, work, Okay, So

747
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a shot for that.

748
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: But the last one, there's a couple of more, couple

749
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 2: more okay, dollar sign.

750
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: T Paint, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Teddy Teddy

751
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: Pendergrast with T Pain and applies. What you gotta join

752
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: with T Paint applies? Uh yeah, I do, actually, but

753
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 1: you know what, I just got caught up on the

754
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: fact I was like Teddy Pain to say Teddy peng

755
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 1: but I remember I heard him say that on this

756
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 1: album was Teddy Paint. But anyways, T Paint is somebody

757
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: like my uncle gave me a CD. It was an

758
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: epiphany album and I was just like, love, that's my

759
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: favorite T Paint album ever, even though he had so

760
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: many other hits and ship. Yeah, I really studied that

761
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: album a lot. T Paint like the okay Barman Hill

762
00:35:51,280 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: or uh well Laurence Hill, Little Baby or the Baby.

763
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 6: Ye damn uh do the baby baby, Hey, old babies.

764
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: We can say both neither or I can say both. Yea, Yeah,

765
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I thought I had to take

766
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: you both. Got to take a shot. I mean, I

767
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: say both. Outcast a U g K outcasts. Shout out

768
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,720
Speaker 1: to bun Beato, the great guy. He's always treated me respect.

769
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: Another one of those people that's like down the earth.

770
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: We're doing competing this, this number, this next one a lot.

771
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: I think Niles doesn't care. But I think Jada Kiss.

772
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 1: Is going to say, that's a long time ago asking

773
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: me to take this out. He's retiring. Well, you know,

774
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: the wrong person asks just because like I studied mostly

775
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: be growing up. I didn't start studying rap until I

776
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know, nineteen years old or something

777
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know, I don't know. I mean

778
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: either casual hip hop listener. I mean I listened to

779
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,880
Speaker 1: more of it now, but I would say, no.

780
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: No, all right, cool, the bars are earth winning fire,

781
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 2: Earth winning fire, Okay, all right, now this is last one.

782
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: We go go back to the interview. Yeah, loyalty or respect.

783
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I got I'm gonna go with respect. That's

784
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: a crazy question. I like that I'm gonna go respect.

785
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, but don't they ain't they kind of hand

786
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: in hand. That's why I figure, I think, yeah, that's

787
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: why I want both. I want to because if you

788
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: if you're not lawyer, how could you respect me? Like

789
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: that's what I agree with you.

790
00:37:54,760 --> 00:38:02,839
Speaker 2: So I'm yes, this is something I want to ask

791
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 2: you personally.

792
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: Do you enjoy being a part of the industry. Do

793
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 1: I enjoy being part of the music industry? Yeah, yeah, no,

794
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: you don't. No, I believe you right, like nothing about it.

795
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm making this game brough industry, you know, Like you know,

796
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: as soon as you mentioned respect, it just got me thinking, like,

797
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: you know, I might get a lot of respect from

798
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: like fans and you know, the consumers and whatnot out there,

799
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: and then sometimes maybe not. But you know a lot

800
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: of times I always really wanted to respect my peers

801
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: and the ones that are like in it, like really

802
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: in it, and like are still out here competing to

803
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: be number one or whatever, Like I don't really ever

804
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: get the respect from them. And I'm a type of

805
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: person like I feel like when I came into the

806
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: industry and probably still know, there's a lot of people

807
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: that treat me like I'm a threat or something threat threat, yeah,

808
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: and I don't want to think that, but like the

809
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: way they treat me day to day. You know, I've

810
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: been in shit ten years. There's so many people that

811
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 1: I can name that like I've been so we celebrating

812
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: ten years to try sold. Yeah, but there's so many

813
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: people that I feel like I've reached out to or

814
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: try to talk to or try to get a meeting

815
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: with for five minutes and they just be blowing me

816
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,240
Speaker 1: off or treat me like I'm just like some funky

817
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: ass a nigga that's trying to be around.

818
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 2: Say that, and I could believe, Like when when I

819
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: forget what interview this was, I'm for searching you and

820
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: then they said the tea paining features and it was

821
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: like they were saying that how they they love that

822
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: you went and got teap pain implies. And then they

823
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: mentioned some other artists that I'm not going to name,

824
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: and then you said, well, I can't even get them

825
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: on the phone, And I was just like, is that

826
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: you or is that them?

827
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: Right? It's still because it's like I reach out, like

828
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 1: I like I'm a man man, and I like I

829
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: like conversation. We got a problem. We gotta fight, you

830
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. We got to go back and forth,

831
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: like we could just as men sit down and talk

832
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: about it and nobody ever got to know about it.

833
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Like I don't know what the problem be. Like a

834
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 1: lot of people will be saying it's like, oh, I'm

835
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 1: just busy. They always put it on that. But you know,

836
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: even jay Z hit me back every time I send

837
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: him a message, and you know, I imagine he's one

838
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: of the busy busiest I'm saying, so to see people

839
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: that ain't nowhere even near that, you know, I get it.

840
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: We all kings, we all got our own kingdoms, and

841
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 1: we got people that's trying to get the Lite promise.

842
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure you got twenty people trying to

843
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: get with you right now, so you know what I mean,

844
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: And like I respect that, but like also I feel like,

845
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, if somebody was calling me saying, or are

846
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: trying to get in touch with you, you know, he really

847
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. I'm gonna we're going to

848
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: have a conversation. You know, we don't have a conversation

849
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,879
Speaker 1: or something. But like so I always felt like if

850
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: I did the same thing, maybe people will give me

851
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: that same respect, Like y'all, I'm trying to get into

852
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: contact so we can like either talk about a record

853
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: or let me show you something I'm working on, and

854
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: it would just be crickets.

855
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 2: Not even listen you, I swear to I can't imagine

856
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 2: that ship, bro, Like, don't be a lot of I

857
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: don't see artists right now not picking up into.

858
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:11,320
Speaker 1: The sword of God, like I swear it's because they're busy.

859
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 2: Listen, I've studied you enough to know that if I

860
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 2: bring up an artist name, you're gonna say you know nothing.

861
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: So I know that. But because I care about them,

862
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I don't want to put

863
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: them out because I know what the media is gonna do.

864
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: They gonna take those in your alcohol. They're gonna a

865
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,919
Speaker 1: little you know what I'm saying, Like they got of context. Yeah,

866
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: it's like shave room. They're gonna post some ship the

867
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 1: next thing. You know, all the people are gonna be saying,

868
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: and I just I don't want to do them like that.

869
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: You're gonna bring that on them because I care? Yeah,

870
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: and you sure.

871
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 2: Now this is me asking as a person because I

872
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: know the industry and a lot of the times artists

873
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 2: will sit right in the position that you're at and

874
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 2: they'll say, you know how it is, right, and yeah,

875
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 2: I do, I know how it is. But we're not

876
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: speaking to me. We're speaking to this whole audience. Is

877
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: it you reaching out? Is it management? Because I can't

878
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 2: see like I'll just throw out a random name, right,

879
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna it's not gonna be a real person.

880
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: But can reaches out rights Until the reaches out the

881
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: can can, it's higher, it's hollering back. I can't see that.

882
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: So you do, like, especially fifteen millions so or the

883
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: success that you have, I don't see nobody not picking

884
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: up your phone call.

885
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 4: You know what?

886
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: I thought that same I swear to god I saw

887
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: I thought that same thing. As soon as they told me,

888
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: I called like ten people to verify that that was

889
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: even real. I was like, Yo, is this real? Is

890
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: this true? Because if it is, I'm about to reach

891
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: out to a couple of people. You know what I

892
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: mean that you know that I want to talk to

893
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: about my game and whatnot, reach out to them. And

894
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: you know, I said them the thing that they saw

895
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 1: me like, yo, you know, thinking like maybe that's what

896
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: maybe that's what they respect, you know what I mean.

897
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, they don't. They might, they might

898
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: not respect me, but maybe they just respect winners. So

899
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm winning, you know this, Maybe they're intimidated.

900
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: It's sound like a win to me. Possibly. I was like,

901
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: that's sounded like a win to me. So I was like,

902
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: reach out to a couple of people. Still to this day,

903
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: I'm going to show you no response. I was like, yo, man,

904
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: just I don't know, Man, yeah, I do be reaching

905
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: out to him person. It's not managements to me, and

906
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: you know who knows. I just feel like, if you

907
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: got a problem, just hit my phone. You know what

908
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's whatever, it is, like, it don't matter.

909
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: Like I feel like people in the industry, it's be

910
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 1: so many beefs between artists and I just I'm for

911
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: the people, you know what I mean, And I feel

912
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 1: like the people need music and the fact that we

913
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 1: can't collaborate, like fucking we didn't even got to collaborate

914
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: on music, Like I don't even funk about that. But like,

915
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, some people look at it like, oh,

916
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 1: maybe he just want the clout, you know what. I mean,

917
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: what does it do for me to do a feature

918
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: with you? Like it's doing more for you than it

919
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: is for me. Some people look at it like that

920
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm not working him, you know what

921
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that's what happens to me all the time. Like,

922
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: so I just don't don't. That's why I don't bother

923
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 1: collaborating with people, because like, what's the point, man? People

924
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: think it's me they say, Oh, I'm like, I'm here,

925
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: like at the same place.

926
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy? And I don't want to say, well,

927
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: i've seen you that seems you were cool and shit

928
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 2: and I'm sitting back and I'm like, wait a minute.

929
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:11,279
Speaker 1: These people think that, like you're a dick. They might

930
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: think you're a dick, right because you know what I mean.

931
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 2: But I've seen you cool, calm, collective, and I'm like,

932
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 2: holy shit, do you think that's that's a room about

933
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: you that you don't want to collab with people you

934
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: don't want to.

935
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: Be But here's the thing, Like that was when I

936
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: first came into the industry, a lot of people was

937
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: ringing my manager phone at the time, Yo, we want

938
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: to get toll on the song and that was just

939
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: like it was overwhelming because like at that time, like

940
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: I didn't even have time, Like will people be like, yo,

941
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 1: you got any think she was working on when he

942
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: was working on traps. So I'm like nah, because like

943
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: I had to go on tour right after that shit,

944
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: and I was so fucked up about the idea that

945
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: I had to be on stage in front of people

946
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 1: for the first time that I was like, I ain't

947
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 1: had no time to make music, you know what I'm saying.

948
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: So that was all I was thinking about, and and

949
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: people was reaching out like yo, we need you on

950
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: the song, and I was just like, I just can't

951
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: do features right now now, like because I don't funk

952
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 1: with these artists, but just because like I literally don't

953
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: even have time to make music for myself, you know

954
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that was the main reason. So

955
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: maybe that you know, I ran into one of them artists.

956
00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 1: Actually I ain't gonna say his name, but uh like gonna

957
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: say his name, but I ran into him at the

958
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: Hit Factory and he was like, yeah, man, your manager

959
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: told me you ain't trying to speak with people, man

960
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 1: laying man about you. I said, I'm here right now

961
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: and something. Yeah, I think I played him some ship

962
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: and he was like, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna

963
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: like he put a verse on that bitch and it

964
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: came out like a week or two later.

965
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 2: But let me, let me, let me, let me give

966
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: you a problem. Let me just let you know. I've

967
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: been in this music business after Trap Soul. You changed

968
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: the whole game. I don't tell you, okay, said.

969
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: You changed the whole game? Is no, no, no, I.

970
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: Figure out because I know I can feel that your humbleness.

971
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: But like the way music is made now has changed

972
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: since Trap so and it's celebrating ten years. Correct, Yeah

973
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 2: you're going to take a shot for that. Yeah yeah,

974
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: hell yeah, come on.

975
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 1: I got do you do you realize what Trap Soul

976
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: did to the people. Always let it to me, and

977
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't never hear it or see it. To be

978
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: honest with you, You're just too humble, man, I just

979
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: don't see it. Like I'm just being honest, Like I hear,

980
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: like I don't hear what they hear. Maybe they hear it,

981
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: but like for me, I just hear people making music.

982
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's all right?

983
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: Well, well well and I've seen an interview where they

984
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 2: asked you about this and they say that you actually

985
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 2: have babies out there. People follow exactly Trap Soul and

986
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 2: I know you don't want to claim it.

987
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was talking to some of my homies at

988
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 1: OVO at this party one time and prayings.

989
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 4: People.

990
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they was.

991
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 4: They was pissed at me because I was like, the

992
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: say yo, such and such as a song of the.

993
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,279
Speaker 2: Story they said at the club, at the club and

994
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: come on at the club.

995
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: I was like, bron, I was like, nah, they're not

996
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: my son, but you didn't like the fact that they

997
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: was calling the son. Yeah, I don't like that. I

998
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: don't like because anytime I heard sons and him, it's bad.

999
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: It's like, you know what I mean, the way rappers,

1000
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: you's like, Yo, this so and so is my son,

1001
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: and it's always some ship that's putting them down in

1002
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 1: the wraps New York. Not always.

1003
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 3: You got to you gotta tell me the time, just

1004
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: say like I'm the O G and they coming up

1005
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: behind me.

1006
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: That's really I guess I get it. When he explained

1007
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: it to the collect Okay, I get it, you know

1008
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: what I mean, But I you know, I just don't

1009
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: ever want an artist to feel like I'm they daddy.

1010
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I get that. I'm just

1011
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,720
Speaker 1: saying like I never want that. Like you just inspired

1012
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: by me, you know what I'm saying. You took you know,

1013
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: a page out of my book, study my you know

1014
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna make it your own. You know, they say

1015
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: a thief stials with a genius borrows, and you know

1016
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: for the artists that do that, you know, but yeah,

1017
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 1: it's cool. I get the whole You got some babies

1018
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: out there, I get it. No, it's the truth. It's

1019
00:47:59,520 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: the truth.

1020
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Like you know what I mean, uh me personally, you know,

1021
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 2: Sorry to keep twisting it to me, but there was

1022
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: a whole genre after I worked with Pharrell, Like people

1023
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 2: didn't want to work with Pharrell, and then people just

1024
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: follow that that thing. And that's why it reminds me

1025
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: of trap soul with you is because after that people

1026
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:29,240
Speaker 2: followed you and they mimicked and they made music exactly

1027
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: sounding like you. And I know you humble enough not

1028
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: to be like fuck them, Oh that's my son. You

1029
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 2: ain't claiming that shit at all, but but you do

1030
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: recognize people are following you.

1031
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't recognize that. Nah. I mean I've seen people

1032
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: come out with albums called trap soul and like you

1033
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean, or went out or they'll tell

1034
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: me that they like I'm their favorite artist and they'll

1035
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: make music. I have just seen that.

1036
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 3: But like you know, you can say it differently. You

1037
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 3: inspired a movement is probably a better yeah way to

1038
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: say it.

1039
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but like noah, I don't really I don't

1040
00:48:58,680 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: really see it.

1041
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: So if if let me let me so, let me

1042
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 2: ask you a question, God comes down to Earth, h price,

1043
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:15,919
Speaker 2: You're gonna make one record to save humanity, get one

1044
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 2: feature and one producer.

1045
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: Who you calling dahm. One feature and if you want

1046
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 1: to make it easier for you that a uh, okay

1047
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: do I get to do? I get as many chances

1048
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: with that. Let's say this feature does a hundred can

1049
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: they do a hundred verses until I get it right?

1050
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 4: But the producer might not get it right. I might

1051
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 4: not get it right, like I just want to try.

1052
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 1: I'm probably I'm gonna go with my boy Charlie Heat

1053
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: for sure, so just because I believe in them so much.

1054
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 1: And then as the feature, uh, and I get to

1055
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: like vocal produce everything, Like I get to really craft

1056
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: this ship together. Save a minute. I'm going with Drake. Yeah,

1057
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: I can see it what you said. You you've vocal

1058
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: produced him. No, not ever vo Okay, but like if

1059
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: I could like be like yo, now we gotta do

1060
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: it like this and you know what I'm saying and

1061
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: really be a part of our our go with bro.

1062
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 2: Is there anybody like you know, we got these collab albums.

1063
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:43,240
Speaker 1: That's like being popular.

1064
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 2: Now, what is there anybody you will do a collab

1065
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,280
Speaker 2: album with a Yeah, there was a bunch of people.

1066
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: I'll do one with Future for sure. I really love Future,

1067
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: like pick up the Future. I just seen him another day.

1068
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 2: We squashed it. We had a little first and we

1069
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: squashed it and I told him I'm sorry for my bad.

1070
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: Part's not even doing.

1071
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: Talk about the good part, and thank you Future because

1072
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 2: he was actually right and you know what I mean,

1073
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 2: thick him up. But that's what you in Future.

1074
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to do some Future just because,

1075
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: like you know, Future, you got the melodies for show.

1076
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,719
Speaker 1: You definitely got through caduses and like you know, I

1077
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: understand like rap music. I study his catalog for a

1078
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: long time. You know, if it's for him. I wouldn't

1079
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: There's so much shit that I just would have never made,

1080
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? But I feel like we

1081
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: would make some some real dope ship, not just for

1082
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 1: the ladies, but just for the fellas who love ladies.

1083
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 1: So what do you love more? Rapping? Or I mean,

1084
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 1: R and B is my first love. But I always

1085
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: say we're rapping. I can I can say more, you know, singing.

1086
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,720
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's a lot more slow, slow paced,

1087
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, we're rapping. I don't know, it's just

1088
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: like a million words that I could say in sixteen

1089
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: bars versus was the moment you decided I want to

1090
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: start with? I started rapping because of who gotta started

1091
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: rapping because I got a credit c B as a

1092
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,360
Speaker 1: person that made me want to start rapping. But also

1093
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 1: there another CB.

1094
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:27,360
Speaker 2: You know, we don't know, we don't know.

1095
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: Anyways, Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's the person that made me want.

1096
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: You can relate to him because he was a singer

1097
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: like for me, like I was like, yeah, I really

1098
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: want to really really really rap. And I feel like

1099
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 1: even y'all, I ain't never heard me really really rap,

1100
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: and I could play out you got a double album.

1101
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: The double album, I was like, he could you can

1102
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: listen to Minny Kelly, you know on vices you know

1103
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: what I mean, and hear me spit and whatnot, But

1104
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 1: I got some other songs and whatnot where it's like,

1105
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: I think that's the hardest part about being me, like

1106
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: because it's like, you know, I really don't feel like

1107
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 1: there's as it's like a catch twenty two almost because

1108
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: it's not a It's not a singer out there that

1109
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: can rap better than me, and there's not a rapper

1110
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: that could sing better than me. So it's like, I'm like,

1111
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: but where do I fit in in this industry? But

1112
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: to answer your question, I probably yeah, I mean singamore

1113
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: and who made me want to rap? Or when did

1114
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: I start taking rap? Seriously, there was a reverse that

1115
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: Jay V did on a song called Click and I

1116
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: remember you know for a long time, Wayne was my

1117
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: favorite rapper for a long time. Way I got to say,

1118
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,160
Speaker 1: I can't believe I forgot bro He the main person

1119
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: that made me want to rapt. Way yeah, A little wait,

1120
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: but then Broa when I think when you stuff, when

1121
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 1: I seen be doing it, I was like, oh yeah,

1122
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: maybe I should try to fuck it, you know what

1123
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean. I start trying and and but you know,

1124
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: I was never really that good at it, Like you

1125
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: go back to my twenty eleven twenty ten shit, I

1126
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: wasn't that good at it. And then I heard people

1127
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: used to always say jay Z was the best for

1128
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: best rapper to ever do it, and for me, I

1129
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: never really understood it because and then I heard him

1130
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: say someone times like yo, people just ain't listening so

1131
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: they can't catch up to what I'm saying, something like that.

1132
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: And then one day, you know, I just heard, like

1133
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, it was just like mumbo jumbo. You know,

1134
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: for me as a person who didn't really listen to

1135
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: rap music, but Wayne somehow connected to me. But one

1136
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: day on the way to work ups this click versus playing,

1137
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: and then he said everything he said on that verse,

1138
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: and I said, yo, I just get it.

1139
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: It was like an awakening. I was like, yo, I

1140
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 4: fucking get it. Jay Z is the best. I was like, yo,

1141
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 4: hold up. I was like, let me go back, let

1142
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 4: me listen to all this man ship. Then I started listening.

1143
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 4: I started understanding. I don't know if I got smarter

1144
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 4: or what.

1145
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: I got smarter than I finally started understanding what bro

1146
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: was saying. But like I started because I really appreciate words,

1147
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So he really is a

1148
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: worsmith for real. So like I started listening to everything

1149
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: he was saying. I was like, yeah, I gotta get

1150
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: better at rapping for sure, you know what I mean.

1151
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: And then shit, that's kind of.

1152
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 2: Jay Z's first album. I didn't I didn't even get it.

1153
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting money at the time. Then I started

1154
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: getting money.

1155
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: I was like, you couldn't relate.

1156
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: You couldn't relate to that some money.

1157
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, all right, I've been looking at your wrists

1158
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: this whole time. I'm a watch cornoisur holds of VVS diamonds.

1159
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: That is a very beautiful watch. What is that?

1160
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: Uh? This is a rich Can you help me out here?

1161
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: It's just ibby right coat? Can you show it to

1162
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: the camera?

1163
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: Plan holy ship, it's it's blinding people, it's lying.

1164
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna I stick out some braze bowl dust

1165
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: on it. I ain't clean this one. It looks it

1166
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 1: looks band appreciate it. I only got it because, I

1167
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: mean because of the tour and ship. I was like,

1168
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: you know what, I ain't got no background dancers, none

1169
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 1: of that. So I was like, I need sometime some dancing.

1170
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 7: You know, I've never heard of that.

1171
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: That no bad his his risk is his background. Dann

1172
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: sas motherfucker believe that. Holy moly moly, your dad is

1173
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: a beautiful beautiful Are you in the watchers?

1174
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: No?

1175
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 2: Not really, not really, No, you're not You're not in

1176
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:26,959
Speaker 2: the ship.

1177
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: I only got it, not really.

1178
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 2: Shot for you, just yo. But yo, I ain't gonna

1179
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: lie to you. I admire that for you, like the

1180
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 2: fact that the industry hasn't you know what I'm saying,

1181
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 2: Like I see your motherfucker into this industry and the

1182
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 2: way they come pause, the way they enter, and the

1183
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: way they consumed you. It's too different. You ain't let

1184
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: it affect you. You didn't let it make you a

1185
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 2: bad person. Trust me, I've saw it all. Thank you,

1186
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna take a shot to you being human.

1187
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 2: Thank you, bro, appreciate that's real ship human. That's a

1188
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 2: crazy pause though, you know that, you know what I'm

1189
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 2: trying to say, like, yes, thank you, thank you for

1190
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 2: correcting what he paused me.

1191
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1192
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 2: But you have no idea how many people you see

1193
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 2: coming up pause and when when.

1194
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: When it's time for them to you know what I mean?

1195
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: And that's when they want to be humble, that's when

1196
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 2: they want to be cool people.

1197
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: And then no one takes their call. Man.

1198
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, but boy when they there, homie, God, I tell

1199
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 2: them I'm there. I've been here twenty five years.

1200
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:57,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay here. You might not. I gat me more.

1201
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry I went. I went. No, but for real, man,

1202
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: like yo yo. I watched Rory and Maul your interview

1203
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 2: and Rory just called me as funny as hell. And

1204
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 2: Ory said that the time that he went to your show,

1205
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 2: it was the most females he ever seen.

1206
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: In New York City. Come out, maybe you gotta it's

1207
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: a breezy bubble, of course, you know what I'm saying.

1208
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 4: With me.

1209
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 1: I mean, but like they're there for the you know, no,

1210
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: they said this is your show, Chris Brown about show?

1211
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: It was your show? Yeah, come on.

1212
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 2: Rory said that he went to your show at Webster

1213
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 2: Hall and it was the most females in New York

1214
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 2: City that he ever saw.

1215
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: Did you know that? I mean he said it to you, Yes,

1216
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: he said it to you. You know, you know, you know,

1217
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: no is that is that something? Does that make you

1218
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: a sex symbol? Nah? Definitely not. Do you think you're

1219
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: a sex symbol? No? When you make sexy fucking music, right,

1220
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,439
Speaker 1: I appreciate that, man, I appreciate that. No, I'm just nerve.

1221
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 7: Man.

1222
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 1: Let's just be chilling. That was a whole gamer man,

1223
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: I just be chilling, like you know, the girls are

1224
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: like me, like me and the girls who don't you

1225
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: know whatever. I just make music and you know for

1226
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 1: people who you know love women, and I appreciate women

1227
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: a lot, so you know you don't think the new

1228
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: Definitely not. I'll be sure none of those. I'm just

1229
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: a guy who's uh, I'm just I'm just a guy

1230
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: who's in the house. Break.

1231
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a shot for you, man, because I

1232
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: wanted to give you your flowers.

1233
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 1: Solo, Solo should go take a shot. I don't want to,

1234
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: and I just want to say something real quick. That's one.

1235
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,439
Speaker 1: Everybody didn't know that. I just ran in New York City,

1236
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: motherfucking marriga.

1237
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: I think this is no other artists. I would have

1238
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: came out.

1239
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 1: For a pause, stop that ship, bro, but I would

1240
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 1: have been in bed.

1241
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they said I appreciate you got right, and

1242
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 2: I'm coming off he came shimmering. He was like, yeah

1243
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 2: for you, motherfucker because you and the motherfucker. So is

1244
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: there anything that you felt like you didn't do in

1245
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: the industry that you is this something that you want

1246
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 2: to get an accomplished.

1247
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 1: I ain't really collaborated with all the people that I

1248
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 1: would have loved to collaborate. I won't name the names,

1249
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: but like, I really love but let's go it out

1250
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: there in a positive way. YEA, Yeah, Well I love artists,

1251
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: I love people that create. I appreciate icons. I appreciate

1252
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: people who you know, it's not easy to bring people

1253
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: out to your shows. You know, a thousand people, five

1254
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: thousand people, ten thousand people that some people doing fifty

1255
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 1: thousand and six the Bridge Bowl's crazy. So it's like

1256
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 1: anybody that can do that, like, I appreciate them, you

1257
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And you know, there's so many

1258
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: people that I would just have loved to work with,

1259
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 1: not because I feel like it could do something for me,

1260
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: or like it's gonna bring me more money or more fans,

1261
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: or like I get a chance to shit on them

1262
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: on the song and sang better than them, or rap

1263
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: better than them. But just because we get to make

1264
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,920
Speaker 1: something create people to you know, to just enjoy and

1265
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: live with for their life, you know. And there's a

1266
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: lot of people in the industry that I really never

1267
01:01:40,560 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: got the chance to like sit in the studio and

1268
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: chop it up with and be like yo, whatever and

1269
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 1: then we make a song. You know. I used to

1270
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 1: think that that's how the music industry was, like, you know,

1271
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 1: because in high school, I wasn't really the cool guy,

1272
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: so you know, but I was really fucking good at music.

1273
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, you know, that made me cool.

1274
01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 1: So whenever I started looking at the music industry, I

1275
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: was like, okay, ship, when I get a music industry,

1276
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like I'm meeting all my my people.

1277
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 1: This is my table right here, like all the people

1278
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: in high school that wasn't you know, I had no

1279
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 1: table there, like this is my table. And then I

1280
01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: got there and it just was like more tables, a

1281
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: lot of tables. I was like, my damn, you know,

1282
01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: and I was just like, holy shit. Uh so that's

1283
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: probably the one thing that I haven't done. But want

1284
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: me throw a couple of features that I think I

1285
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 1: would like I love shot that. I don't know if

1286
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: she that would come out the you know, she don't

1287
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: come out, but but I would. I would do that.

1288
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: I would do that. Who's producing that I would? I

1289
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: mean probably probably Charlie, but I would let her do.

1290
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,560
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, shot that, What do you need

1291
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: me to do? Like if it's just an ad lib?

1292
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,800
Speaker 1: If I just got to sing in a lower octave

1293
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: under you and I don't even get no shine in

1294
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: time like no verse, you just sing it back up?

1295
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 1: I don't get it damn. You know, like I'm doing

1296
01:02:54,080 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: that taking a shot for that took still on? How

1297
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:08,000
Speaker 1: about a joint with Josh? Yeah, I do that. I

1298
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 1: want I want them to push me to be a

1299
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,960
Speaker 1: better singer for sure, you know, so I would. I

1300
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: would try to do some ship that I've never done before.

1301
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:19,320
Speaker 2: Now up, up, who is somebody you would want to

1302
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 2: write for? C? B.

1303
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: Drake? Those are people always named for, I mean, name

1304
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: a lot of female artists. You know, I haven't really

1305
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 1: gotten into my songwriting bag so like to be honest,

1306
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 1: like it's hard for me to really to say, but

1307
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: those will be the people that come to mind, like

1308
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 1: right away, and honestly newer artists who you know, don't

1309
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:46,600
Speaker 1: have nothing at all, like let me, let me, let

1310
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: me write from ship for you, Like if there's somebody

1311
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: out there, honestly, another thing is like FIRS, a rapper

1312
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 1: with a really really really really good rapping voice, I

1313
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: would write for them just because, like the thing that

1314
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: about me is like the fact that I'm a singer.

1315
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: You know, people will never in a million years ever

1316
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: take me serious as a rapper. It's just how it goes.

1317
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: When you sing really good or whatever, you make really

1318
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: good R and B songs and then you rap, They're

1319
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: just gonna be like you're trying to rap. Even if

1320
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: you rap than anybody else, you know what I'm saying,

1321
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: It's just like nah, you're trying to blah blah blah,

1322
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 1: or like I don't like when you rap whatever. So

1323
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: I would take all my raps and I would give

1324
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: it to somebody who has that rapper you know, rapper

1325
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: voice and that rapper energy. You know what I'm saying.

1326
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: You think like one time I came outside, right, I

1327
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:38,800
Speaker 2: was in Puerto Rico, in fact, I'm going to Puerto

1328
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 2: Rico tonight, and the dude bumped into me.

1329
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: And he sung me my song. Guys, he was this

1330
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 1: is me as he was this singer. Yeah, he was like.

1331
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: I looked at it and it's awesome to me. But

1332
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 2: I looked at this guy and I was like, holy shit,

1333
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 2: and I knew that record is bigger than me, but

1334
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: he knew it was you, right, hell no, oh that's

1335
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: even hell know, like the video wasn't really out.

1336
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: Like that, like you know what I mean, like Puerto Rican.

1337
01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 2: Maybe he thought she looked like the video wasn't out yet,

1338
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: so he's no, it's he just really wanted to beef

1339
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 2: with me.

1340
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: And want to be for him that song in his head.

1341
01:05:27,040 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 2: Do you like, do you think that music sometimes superseds

1342
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:31,880
Speaker 2: a person's image?

1343
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. I'm one of those people. You know,

1344
01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: there's so many people that be like I never knew

1345
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: what you looked like. There'd be some people that be

1346
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: trying so hard to.

1347
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: Not know what I look like because you're like you're

1348
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 2: like you're like hip hop's clark In. Yeah, you get

1349
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 2: what I'm trying to say, Like you can put on

1350
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 2: your cape when you go perform, but then you can

1351
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 2: take it off and you go and be ship. And

1352
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 2: I said, I seen you in a restaurant.

1353
01:05:59,520 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: He was mad.

1354
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 2: I was think, you ain't loading. But what I'm saying

1355
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 2: is that's fucking that's genius. Yeah, that's genius that you

1356
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: can do. Do you feel like, because this is a

1357
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: very hard question, do you even like being famous?

1358
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: Nah? I was just talking to somebody about this earlier.

1359
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: Nah, just because I mean, it definitely has this perks,

1360
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 2: you know, but like you don't want to wait and

1361
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 2: there's a couple of lines in the restaurant. Yeah, that's

1362
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,200
Speaker 2: what I was gonna say, Like I get to skip

1363
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 2: up people the apple.

1364
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 1: I guess that's okay, you know what I'm saying, Like

1365
01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 1: that's the one thing, and the other thing is like,

1366
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: you know, you still get to use your fame to

1367
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,200
Speaker 1: get money later on in life, you know, m And

1368
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: that's cool. But other than that, what other perks doesn't

1369
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 1: really have to being famous? You know? And bro, yeah,

1370
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 1: it's just like you know, I've never been, don't get

1371
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: me wrong. In the first year when I came out,

1372
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 1: like it was cool to see people knowing who I was,

1373
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 1: but mainly because I love music so much and the

1374
01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:59,960
Speaker 1: fact that people knew my music and they see me

1375
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 1: on the street, it was different. You know what I'm saying.

1376
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, Ship, like people recognize me. But

1377
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: like after a while, I was like, Okay, I don't.

1378
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: I don't care to be famous at all. Like you're different.

1379
01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 1: I want to walk around like I don't give a

1380
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 1: funk about Like I'll be the nigga waiting outside in

1381
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 1: the line to get in the club if I have to,

1382
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 1: like I'll be trying to skip line and ship like

1383
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,280
Speaker 1: I be chilling, you know, and I'm just.

1384
01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,920
Speaker 2: Look, Josey, you have a question, you have any questions

1385
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 2: you want to This is your biggest.

1386
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 1: Fan, you know. That's that's good. We got a song.

1387
01:07:39,640 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 1: We got a song. Let's repeat?

1388
01:07:41,120 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 3: What is.

1389
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: Okay? Yes? Yeah, shout out to Caroline. Man, we've been

1390
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,880
Speaker 1: friends for a long time. You know, we both kind

1391
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,640
Speaker 1: of came into the music industry somewhere around the same time.

1392
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,400
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, we got we got, we got, we

1393
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: got a song together. You know, we always just been

1394
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, real friends. So like, you know, we never

1395
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 1: forced the music. We do have something. I think it

1396
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: might be coming out. I don't know, so yeah, yeah, Ship,

1397
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm taking a shot for that. I'm sorry, man, Yeah,

1398
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:15,840
Speaker 1: so what what what is I know?

1399
01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 2: I asked this earlier, so my access him reverse because

1400
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 2: I asked alive and you picked Drake and you picked

1401
01:08:22,040 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: So Now I was like, what would be your dream

1402
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:29,000
Speaker 2: collab of a person that's passed away? Who would you

1403
01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:30,400
Speaker 2: Who would you dig up from the grave?

1404
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. That has to be music, right, No, I mean,

1405
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 1: go ahead, pick anybody. Now that's direction because like I

1406
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 1: love I swear to god, I love music so much,

1407
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: but like not to the point where I wanted to

1408
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 1: think him up out of the grave. Okay, grave, Like, man,

1409
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:54,920
Speaker 1: I wish I wish you could have did a song

1410
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: like I don't think I like, I don't think I

1411
01:08:57,080 --> 01:09:00,200
Speaker 1: cared that much about music. But if there's somebody I

1412
01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,840
Speaker 1: was like, I just wish I could have picked their

1413
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: brain and just talk to them and tell them to

1414
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: tell them about my ideas. Be Steve Jobs. For sure,

1415
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that, but I didn't. I'm really really

1416
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:14,360
Speaker 1: curious about just like what was going on? Is oude

1417
01:09:14,360 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 1: of his mind? You know I'm mistaking about.

1418
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 2: Okay, So let me ask you this, speaking of Steve Jobs,

1419
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 2: do you respect streaming?

1420
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:27,400
Speaker 1: Streaming? Yeah, well, I gotta say streaming is the main

1421
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: reason why I'm the highest certified R and B song.

1422
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 2: So, like I remember at one point people were mad

1423
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 2: at you for keeping loading up a sound Clouds. They

1424
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 2: wanted you to stay on Apple, they wanted you to

1425
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: be pe. You kept you kept going back to sound

1426
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 2: even Soundclouds still streaming. Yeah, it's almost like free though,

1427
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 2: like Geff free, and a lot of people don't really

1428
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,919
Speaker 2: I mean sorry SoundCloud, but there's a lot of people.

1429
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:52,920
Speaker 1: That don't have it, you know. I mean they're going

1430
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,560
Speaker 1: to Spotify, They're going to Yeah, that platform is not

1431
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: used as much as it. Yeah, but I gotta you know,

1432
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: a soft spot a special place in my heart for

1433
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: SoundCloud because for one reason, and one reason only really

1434
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: is just because it's just lip not just that too

1435
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,120
Speaker 1: thousand percent. And in this instant, like when I'm feeling

1436
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 1: something like and I love what I'm doing, I'm like,

1437
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 1: I gotta drop this tonight, right. You can control when

1438
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 1: that compit? Yeah, I can drop. I can litle go

1439
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 1: on my computer. That that is, that is that is

1440
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: I can't do that way for music. I can't do

1441
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: that with Spotify. I got a call this person and

1442
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,760
Speaker 1: that's the second for the Yeah, and as an artist,

1443
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:34,160
Speaker 1: I ain't really trying to do all that, you know

1444
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,479
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like if I'm just feeling something, you know,

1445
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: fans like, we want music, we want music, you know

1446
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I feel like SoundCloud is the easiest way.

1447
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 1: But you know, so a lot of times when I

1448
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 1: did that, they would be pissed because they're like, why

1449
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: are you still dropping on SoundCloud? Like you know you're

1450
01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: getting free music?

1451
01:10:48,240 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 3: What do you mean about a lot of artists came

1452
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,320
Speaker 3: out for SoundCloud, but there was a whole generation of

1453
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:53,360
Speaker 3: art discovered.

1454
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: I believe he's king. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1455
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you got to give

1456
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,920
Speaker 1: SoundCloud his credit? Yeah, yeah, we will. And it was

1457
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:03,679
Speaker 1: another time.

1458
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 2: You posted a picture online with your girl, people were

1459
01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: mad at you that you.

1460
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:16,600
Speaker 1: Were happy that happened. Yeah, what the fuck is this? So?

1461
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:19,960
Speaker 2: Is it true that they want they want you guys

1462
01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:24,120
Speaker 2: to be sad to make a thousands. They think that

1463
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 2: you have to be sad to make good. The reason

1464
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: why they were I just know they wanted you to

1465
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 2: they want me to be.

1466
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1467
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1468
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: They would always tell my girl, like, you know, break

1469
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: his heart so we can get into love. Man, I'm

1470
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,120
Speaker 1: kind a terrible fan. Is that?

1471
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 3: Man?

1472
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 1: This is horrible. It's hard. Yeah, yeah yeah.

1473
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,519
Speaker 2: Do you do you believe that that you have to

1474
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 2: go through pain to make your music?

1475
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:49,920
Speaker 1: No, that's not the case at all, because a lot

1476
01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: of people are like, yo, Trap, So he was heartbroken.

1477
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: It's just like, how do you How would y'all know

1478
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: that I'm heartbroken? You know what I mean? Nobody knew

1479
01:11:57,160 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 1: what I was going on, and I don't want to

1480
01:11:58,360 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: spoil the magic for nobody. I'm not going to y'all

1481
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 1: who Trap Soul was about.

1482
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: Who.

1483
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I don't even want to ruin it

1484
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: for people, So like, think whatever you think. But like,

1485
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: you know, I definitely wasn't heartbroken. You know. It's just

1486
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:13,439
Speaker 1: like as humans, we have we have our days, you know,

1487
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: we go we go through specific things. One day we

1488
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,599
Speaker 1: might be feeling this way, you know, and like when

1489
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: I'm feeling a certain way, I wrote about it. You know,

1490
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: I'm feeling happy and I'm feeling good, like I'm about

1491
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 1: to make it and like all my ex is gonna

1492
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 1: be calling I made this song. Sorry, not sorry, you

1493
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So it was like it was

1494
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 1: different emotions, you know, that I was feeling so well

1495
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: for people to be like, you know, yeah, break his

1496
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: heart so we can get a new album. Like bro,

1497
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: I just you know, it's not my job, you know,

1498
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: like y'all need therapist, yeah, for real life or like

1499
01:12:45,439 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, I mean even my my Solid, the album

1500
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: that I just released was the first time since Trap,

1501
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:53,560
Speaker 1: so I was like, you know, what the fuck it,

1502
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,559
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be super vulnerable, you know, and talk about

1503
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,560
Speaker 1: like some of my hard times and what I'm what

1504
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm going through, so so people can just relate to it,

1505
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 1: because I know that sometimes people need to hear other

1506
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:06,320
Speaker 1: people talk about their feelings so they could feel comfortable

1507
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: to talk about theirs or you know, like they need

1508
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: something that's gonna help them heal and to heal me ship.

1509
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: Like I was listening to the you know, my last

1510
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,360
Speaker 1: album Solid on the on the treademill a lot. But

1511
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: I still think it's fucked up that, like, you know,

1512
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: people would just you know, I think they do that

1513
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: to Ryle Wave too. They're like, yo, make sad music again.

1514
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 1: It's just like he he ain't or not, like he

1515
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 1: don't want to do sad kind of do it to

1516
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 1: Oi y'all. It kind of went y'all side yeah, but

1517
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: like that's like you got you got some other issues

1518
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,439
Speaker 1: you gotta work out. There's so many other songs music

1519
01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: that you can listen to. That's like for me personally,

1520
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 1: like I'm not listening to those sad music to help

1521
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:46,639
Speaker 1: me get through my sadness. Like so see me personally,

1522
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 1: like I'm not. That's not like I think I was

1523
01:13:48,680 --> 01:13:52,919
Speaker 1: listening to Latin music the entire time I was heartbroken.

1524
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: I was listening to nothing but Latin music because I

1525
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: didn't understand none of the lyrics and I was like,

1526
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,960
Speaker 1: I was like, it sound like music and they happy

1527
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:06,640
Speaker 1: and talk about exactly. I'm just like, yo, this is

1528
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: what I'm rocking, you know what I mean, just because

1529
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:10,360
Speaker 1: like I don't want to hear nothing that's gonna put

1530
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,560
Speaker 1: me deeper in that, you know, Like yeah, like I

1531
01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: don't know. So I hate that, I really do, But

1532
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: at this point it don't matter to me no more.

1533
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 1: They can say whatever they want, make this type of music,

1534
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: make that type music. I'm going to make whatever the

1535
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:24,639
Speaker 1: fuck I feel like making.

1536
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: You know, so, you're one of the only artists that

1537
01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 2: dropped the double album, and like this era.

1538
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 1: Oh for real? Yeah, what do you mean this era?

1539
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,400
Speaker 2: Like I believe the last time a double album was

1540
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 2: Biggie and Tupac.

1541
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: No, no, no Scorpion. Oh it's a double goddamn it?

1542
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 1: My bad? Yeah, all right, my bad.

1543
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 2: You know, niggas I recognized dropping a double album.

1544
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 1: I would say that this might be. I mean, now,

1545
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,599
Speaker 1: I got to say that Bruh's album was a true

1546
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:58,519
Speaker 1: double album too, though, because he did like arm mostly

1547
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,160
Speaker 1: like R and B feels and shouldn't.

1548
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 2: Rap on right, Okay to me, let me make my

1549
01:15:03,800 --> 01:15:07,840
Speaker 2: question make more sense us knowing that you being the writer,

1550
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 2: like we want to get paid for like eight to

1551
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 2: ten songs when you do that double album, that double

1552
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 2: album is basically that second album is basically a giveaway?

1553
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 2: Did you honestly you knew that?

1554
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1555
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 1: Shut out? Shut out my manager, man, you found out

1556
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: talking a lot about this. But like, I don't be

1557
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: doing it for that reason. Man. I think what I

1558
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: was going through with Solace and Ship, it was so

1559
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: sad that I was like, bro, I just want to

1560
01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:36,240
Speaker 1: have fun. I ain't trying to think about all the

1561
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,719
Speaker 1: other ship And the main reason I did, I decided

1562
01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:41,720
Speaker 1: to make it a double album. Solace was supposed to

1563
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,160
Speaker 1: be his own thing, and then the Vices was like,

1564
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 1: you know when I dropped whatever She Wants or whatever

1565
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: that came out and it was going crazy. I was like,

1566
01:15:51,320 --> 01:16:01,639
Speaker 1: whatever he wants, God damn it. Man, like up that record.

1567
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 2: Every time a person gets into an argument with the girl,

1568
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: they girl plays whatever.

1569
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 1: See it's cool to you man ahead, but nah, So

1570
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: when I had that song, it was going crazy. I

1571
01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 1: had my last album, which is called it was the

1572
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: Bright until album was self titled, and I was like,

1573
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:22,640
Speaker 1: it was like mostly like a bunch of R and

1574
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,840
Speaker 1: B shit, and I was like, yo, I was sitting

1575
01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 1: on the four minute. I was like, Yo, let's pivot,

1576
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do it like an album that

1577
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 1: feels like this, that's catered to the women, that's fun,

1578
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: just flying vibe, you know what I mean. And you know,

1579
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: they was like, nah, we should just you know, we

1580
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:39,559
Speaker 1: should just put it as a bonus on this album.

1581
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: And you know, I was a little upset about that

1582
01:16:42,439 --> 01:16:44,680
Speaker 1: because I was like, I guess we can do that,

1583
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,640
Speaker 1: you know. So we ended up putting it as a

1584
01:16:46,680 --> 01:16:49,679
Speaker 1: bonus on the album, and you know, it just sucks

1585
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: because it's like it's the most popular, it's the most

1586
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,840
Speaker 1: stream song on that album, and like, you know, even

1587
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: I feel like even Quincy Jones would listen to the

1588
01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,080
Speaker 1: album maybe, like nah, this ain't the best song on

1589
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,240
Speaker 1: the album, you know what I mean? This is lod

1590
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,280
Speaker 1: whatever she wants, whatever the fuck I'm talking about, you

1591
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But that's other songs like Prize

1592
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 1: on there or like just I won't even get into it,

1593
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 1: but that's songs where I'm really singing, I'm putting a

1594
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: lot of armonies in Charlie Heat really doing his thing,

1595
01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 1: and like they all got overshadowed and overlooked because people

1596
01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 1: is looking for whatever she wants. They're like, Yo, where's

1597
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,320
Speaker 1: that where's that energy at? You know what I'm saying.

1598
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: And I wanted to do that, but you know, people

1599
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: you know labels like nah, So you.

1600
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 2: Think you are like a victim of your own success,

1601
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 2: because now I'm gonna give you an example, right and

1602
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: then I know you went through this, so I'm gonna

1603
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 2: just say it. When I did what what What?

1604
01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:43,560
Speaker 3: What?

1605
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 2: Then I came out with oh no, right after that,

1606
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 2: it was the same exact thing, and they compared it to.

1607
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 1: That don't was so huge.

1608
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, that they kept comparing you know what I'm saying

1609
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 2: like that, it's not don't, but it's it's good. Do

1610
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 2: you do you feel like you're victim of your own

1611
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:08,720
Speaker 2: success like that? Oh no, uh, because everywhere they say

1612
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 2: the compared to your last head, they always compare to see.

1613
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: Your last Yeah.

1614
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean, That's what I'm That's what

1615
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 2: I'm trying to say.

1616
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 1: Well, fortunately for me, don't wasn't my last head, you

1617
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 1: know what mean?

1618
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:19,599
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1619
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, like yeah, I've heard people say make another don't,

1620
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,640
Speaker 1: But like I've always been the type of artist that, like,

1621
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make the same song. And there's

1622
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 1: people out there that will argue, like all his music

1623
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 1: sound the same, He's just making the same song over

1624
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: and over and over about you. Yeah, yeah I've heard that.

1625
01:18:37,840 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 1: But like I'm just boalid because the songs that literally

1626
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,240
Speaker 1: don't sound like each other at all, you know what

1627
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:45,600
Speaker 1: I mean. But now, like I don't like trying to

1628
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: make the same like even me as an artist, Oh no, no,

1629
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. As a fan listening to artists, I'm not like, Yo,

1630
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:55,720
Speaker 1: I need Frank Ocean to make another Channel Orange. I

1631
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: need him make I need jay Z to make another

1632
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like for what made it?

1633
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like he already made it

1634
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:04,560
Speaker 1: for me to listen to, So like why do I

1635
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: need him to go make another one of those? But

1636
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 1: a lot of these fans nowadays, they just they really

1637
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 1: and shiit. People might see this and be like, nah,

1638
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: you don't know what he's talking about. We need you

1639
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: need to go back and make it again. Like it's

1640
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 1: like nah, but that's not how it works, you know.

1641
01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:21,920
Speaker 1: Like you know, so for me, I don't really pay

1642
01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: too much attention when people say that. I just keep

1643
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 1: making ship And you know, I'm so glad. I thank

1644
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: God that I'm blessed and I've been able to just

1645
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: continue to take care of my family and and make

1646
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: money in the music industry doing whatever the fuck. But

1647
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:38,760
Speaker 1: I really want to do you know what I'm saying.

1648
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 1: But I listened to him every Here's when I when

1649
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: I do my fans a solid, you know, those people

1650
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 1: that really rock with trap soul. Every anniversary, So like

1651
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:53,839
Speaker 1: when it's a five year anniversary or a ten year anniversary.

1652
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: For the five year anniversary, I dropped the album called Anniversary,

1653
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:59,880
Speaker 1: paying homage to Trap Soul, which is my first album.

1654
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: Like I didn't call it Trap so Too because I'm

1655
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 1: just like, that's that's just suicide. I'm like, but I'm

1656
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 1: gonna compare it, you know what, But I'm compared it anyway.

1657
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: But like this is what that is. You're paying how

1658
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 1: much to yourself, like to it. So I did that,

1659
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: and then on the ten years I dropped Solad, so

1660
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I'm paying homage and I'm going

1661
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: back and tapping into that bag, you know, even getting

1662
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:24,000
Speaker 1: the old beats that I was listening to back then.

1663
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:27,120
Speaker 1: But even still it don't matter, like they're still gonna

1664
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 1: be like nah, it's still not the same, you know

1665
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 1: what I mean. But you know it's like when you

1666
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,080
Speaker 1: hear people make new new Christmas music, you know what

1667
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like somebody might make a new original Christmas

1668
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: song and it ain't gonna hit as hard as the

1669
01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: Frank Sinatra and all that, you know, all them Christmas songs.

1670
01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: Then you make a Christmas album. I did, but it's

1671
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: not a shame, yeah, but not making a point that like,

1672
01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:57,120
Speaker 1: you know, it ain't nostalgia. People are really driven by

1673
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: nostalgia and they think like.

1674
01:20:59,160 --> 01:21:01,599
Speaker 3: Now, but they can plain now and then five ten

1675
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 3: years later look back at Oh man, that was great.

1676
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly. That's why you can't listen to it

1677
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,960
Speaker 1: in and now. Nope at all. He's got to keep

1678
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,360
Speaker 1: moving forward and even listen to none of that. I

1679
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 1: just right now. I'm in the space ever since twenty twenty.

1680
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, I recently posted something like, yo, it's a

1681
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: common misconception that pricing till it don't drop enough, And

1682
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: I hate hearing that shit he don't drop enough. But

1683
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:26,880
Speaker 1: like I've been dropping ever since twenty twenty, Like I

1684
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 1: haven't stopped. It's the algorithm, it's the social media, it's

1685
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: all that. It's the brutal industry that's keeping me suppressed

1686
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 1: and keeping me, you know, smothered to where it's like

1687
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 1: nobody would ever know that I'm releasing, you know what

1688
01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean. Twenty twenty, I dropped my anniversary album twenty

1689
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,360
Speaker 1: twenty one, I dropped I Think the Deluxe, and then

1690
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: I went into the Christmas album, and then I dropped

1691
01:21:46,240 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: a ten year anniversary of my first mixtape ever, Killer

1692
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:53,559
Speaker 1: Instinct Too, and then I dropped BTA, the album which

1693
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: I was working on nine stop putting out singles when

1694
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: I could, and then then I came out with slum

1695
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: Till the mixtape. Singage was Whatever she Wants was featured

1696
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,640
Speaker 1: on That's three three I think three of them. And

1697
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 1: then I came out with a double album this year

1698
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: and like I'm working on the next ship, you know

1699
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's like I can't I'm saying

1700
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 1: all that to say, like you know, it's just people

1701
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 1: like all here and dropping. I was just like, nah,

1702
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 1: you just you know, you can't. You can't see it,

1703
01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:20,600
Speaker 1: you can't hear it.

1704
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 2: And that's cool, you know, just the mean lot of

1705
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 2: question for me, this is my favorite question in Dream

1706
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:28,479
Speaker 2: Champs history.

1707
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:36,240
Speaker 1: Independent or major. I never experienced what it was like

1708
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: to be independent, so I couldn't really tell you. I'm

1709
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:42,720
Speaker 1: trying to learn a little bit more. I'm trying to

1710
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:46,360
Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn. I'm trying to learn a little

1711
01:22:46,360 --> 01:22:48,799
Speaker 1: bit more what what what it means to be independent.

1712
01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 1: That's somebody I was gonna reach out to. Don't that

1713
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: I want to be not that I want to be independent,

1714
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 1: but more so just because I just want to understand

1715
01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,400
Speaker 1: what it means to be independent.

1716
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 3: I would imagine in the R and B field, it

1717
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:03,799
Speaker 3: would be a lot more different.

1718
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: I would say. Right now, as an artist, it feels

1719
01:23:06,479 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: like that the labels are just bank, you know, like

1720
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,719
Speaker 1: just what a bank? Yeah, I mean that you're correct,

1721
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,200
Speaker 1: because it's not like they're taking this song.

1722
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,479
Speaker 3: And making it independent is wrong. But listen, you can't

1723
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,559
Speaker 3: say that right now. It's different than back then.

1724
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,680
Speaker 1: Man, we got, we got, we got. Back then we

1725
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: got what's my man name? N B A young boy

1726
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:35,080
Speaker 1: and that's it. He independent. Now I forgot, I forgot,

1727
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,679
Speaker 1: I forgot, all right, But what I know, man, there's

1728
01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 1: a lot who else is killing the independent?

1729
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:44,800
Speaker 2: Come on, russells Russell ship you make it points then

1730
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 2: you will to the Russ and Russells, Russell and Russ

1731
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:53,080
Speaker 2: Oh Christian artists?

1732
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 1: No, bro, who's the wressel Man from the area? Oh

1733
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,400
Speaker 1: my bad? Okay, okay, my bad. I thought it was

1734
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:04,439
Speaker 1: La Russell, but yeah, maybe it is Russell. Yeah yeah,

1735
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:07,920
Speaker 1: but you ain't fucking independent. I mean, I don't know

1736
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:11,880
Speaker 1: who who's I'm signing r C. Okay, I've been signing

1737
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: like that. He liked that major. I'm signed R G A.

1738
01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that's good or bad,

1739
01:24:20,200 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: but like you know, shout out to them. As long

1740
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,840
Speaker 1: as that money comes along. Yeah, as long as you're

1741
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:25,639
Speaker 1: successful and flourishing.

1742
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: Independent is yeah, you don't want to be independent, you know,

1743
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:31,200
Speaker 2: you don't listen.

1744
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Don't listen to this guy.

1745
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:38,640
Speaker 2: Man like the Wall, it's not for everybody, but you

1746
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 2: will go back to the Sheraton and not good.

1747
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 3: And he's speaking from the era in the nineties when

1748
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 3: the labels were flushed with money and they were just

1749
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,360
Speaker 3: showing these artists with money.

1750
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's talking from a different area, the Major.

1751
01:24:56,520 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: That sounds fun when you stay in Major. Yeah, no,

1752
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 1: hold on, let me cheers with you. What is that

1753
01:25:07,240 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: ma majuana? What exactly? It's room based? It's a Dominican drink. Okay,

1754
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:21,840
Speaker 1: who over there? All Dominicans?

1755
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:27,760
Speaker 2: All Dominicans when they find out they drinking wanat.

1756
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: You open up.

1757
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the game for a second. Stuart, Uh,

1758
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:42,439
Speaker 2: you've been is that it ship? Holy moleague wakamo brutal industry? Okay,

1759
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: so you're selling a console.

1760
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm not selling the console, but like this is a

1761
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,599
Speaker 1: handheld what consoles a handheld piece, It's called an antag.

1762
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,839
Speaker 1: I got like six of them. But it's like different,

1763
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: and your phone is a Macintosh. What it looks like?

1764
01:25:56,160 --> 01:26:01,560
Speaker 1: Actize you really want to see now? But this is

1765
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:03,760
Speaker 1: this is brutal industry. It's like it's like I said,

1766
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 1: it's a handheld PC, so I can like extract files

1767
01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 1: and ship. But you know, I basically just download. Every

1768
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 1: Friday we get a new build that comes out, and yeah,

1769
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,120
Speaker 1: I download my game on here, I test it out,

1770
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: we play it, we see where it goes. And you

1771
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? And what is it like a

1772
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,720
Speaker 1: downloadable app game or is it it's a real game

1773
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,520
Speaker 1: that comes out on all platforms.

1774
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,519
Speaker 2: And uh so I have to buy that council to

1775
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 2: get that? No, no, no, the Xbox yeah, Xbox any

1776
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,960
Speaker 2: anywhayo switch? How about my phone downloaded?

1777
01:26:33,000 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: And wow too? Yeah, so I started working on this

1778
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:40,439
Speaker 1: back in twenty twenty. And uh, but is that your

1779
01:26:40,560 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: console that you know it is? Okay? Yeah? Just so

1780
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,720
Speaker 1: uh that little Yeah, I've never said it like some

1781
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:49,519
Speaker 1: Japanese ship.

1782
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:49,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1783
01:26:50,479 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 1: Antex. This is like I was gonna give it to

1784
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:54,160
Speaker 1: my daughter because we got pink on it, but I

1785
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 1: just bought it to see how it runs my game

1786
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:58,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. But it's a handheld PC essentially, it's just

1787
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 1: a PC Windows essentially. So and what's the premise of

1788
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 1: the game. I heard he's killing CEOs. Uh, he wants

1789
01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:09,719
Speaker 1: to be independent. It's about it's about the music industry.

1790
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 2: I can't say, yeah, yeah, it's telling leles and.

1791
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 1: It's a very satirical game about the music industry. You know,

1792
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,439
Speaker 1: I think a lot of times this industry is like

1793
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 1: the ship that I go through is laughable. You know.

1794
01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm just like, damn, Like, I can't believe that is

1795
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 1: that way.

1796
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 3: You know.

1797
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: I've been somebody that's in the house, Like I said,

1798
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,479
Speaker 1: I'm a nerd, like I play video games, and I've

1799
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,639
Speaker 1: seen this music industry ship. Make somebody send some goons

1800
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: after me, like we gotta get Brice until it touched

1801
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:54,439
Speaker 1: because of they get touched because he disrespected me man

1802
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:56,880
Speaker 1: and he owed me or whatever. That's just like, damn, bro,

1803
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: it's a brutal industry, man like, And I think it's sad.

1804
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: It's really sad that, you know, artists are gonna have

1805
01:28:03,560 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 1: to go through this ship. You gotta ship that you

1806
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 1: might not expect. Like I said, I stopped talking to

1807
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: everybody when my daughter was born just to see you

1808
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I didn't know what was gonna happen. Yeah,

1809
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: who's gonna fuck with me? And then once I popped off,

1810
01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: which I didn't know was gonna happen, all of a sudden,

1811
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 1: everybody started coming out the world words talking about oh

1812
01:28:19,479 --> 01:28:21,840
Speaker 1: miss oh, I'm met, and we're gonna we're gonna put

1813
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:26,040
Speaker 1: death threats outside the house. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, like

1814
01:28:26,120 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: O W E. So yeah, that's just you know, and

1815
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,720
Speaker 1: then dealing with egos in the music industry, dealing with

1816
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:37,800
Speaker 1: the media, you know what I'm saying, like media, but

1817
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: like you know, there's some people out there that are,

1818
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,040
Speaker 1: like y'all that they got malicious intent and they're doing

1819
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:44,000
Speaker 1: it because they know, you know, like I said, there's

1820
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,160
Speaker 1: gonna be some clips from this ship that I'm probably

1821
01:28:46,160 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: gonna hate to see. But I ain't even on social

1822
01:28:47,880 --> 01:28:50,400
Speaker 1: media right now, like I'm just chilling. H no, broom,

1823
01:28:50,439 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: turn this off, but out right now. But not like

1824
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: you know, the industry is just it's fucked up with

1825
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: artists have to go through, you know, just there's so

1826
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: many different things that I just have made characters out

1827
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 1: of and I love anime and there's a lot of

1828
01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 1: anime influenced in this game. And yeah, I just.

1829
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 2: I just want to give you a slight bit of advice.

1830
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:23,360
Speaker 2: You're a legend. Uh, let me let me finish your

1831
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 2: a legend. You're on your way to be in the icon,

1832
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 2: and there's moments that I don't want you to to miss. Yeah,

1833
01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: enjoy this ride is cool. This ride is cool and

1834
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 2: and and I feel like you're being careful. So you're

1835
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 2: not like really in like you know what I'm saying.

1836
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: You're looking at the ride, but you know that.

1837
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: That that ride is going to go up.

1838
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: You're in Great Adventures, right, so you know that you're

1839
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: on the ride, So you're being super careful and you're

1840
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 2: not I want you to enjoy this more. You are

1841
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 2: a legend, bro, You're a legend. These people came out here.

1842
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:04,439
Speaker 2: Look at all these people turn around. We do this

1843
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:10,000
Speaker 2: for ten years. Everyone was like, listen, you're alleged. So

1844
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 2: I went as you know you know what your own family.

1845
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 2: You're our family, whether you know it or not. You

1846
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, Like, coming through Rich Rich is

1847
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 2: my family. You want my family. I'm your family, and

1848
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,200
Speaker 2: I want you to enjoy this a little bit more,

1849
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,320
Speaker 2: if I can give you a little bit of advice,

1850
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:33,920
Speaker 2: just a little bit of advice. Enjoy this ride because

1851
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:36,599
Speaker 2: so many people ain't gonna get this, so many people

1852
01:30:36,960 --> 01:30:38,720
Speaker 2: like I just ran on New York City Marathon and

1853
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,760
Speaker 2: I've seen people fall in front of me. They felt

1854
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 2: they came right to the fucking finish line and fell

1855
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,040
Speaker 2: and I couldn't pull them because they wouldn't wh me.

1856
01:30:50,520 --> 01:30:52,599
Speaker 2: But you're at the finish line, and I'm gonna tell

1857
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,559
Speaker 2: you something. I want to pull you with me because

1858
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 2: you are a good dude, and enjoy this motherfucking ride

1859
01:30:59,080 --> 01:31:00,439
Speaker 2: because it's ride is beautiful.

1860
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I got got old, got older, old on

1861
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:06,720
Speaker 1: your own.

1862
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 2: That was old, but yeah, not for real, because I

1863
01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:11,840
Speaker 2: was just living a beautiful life.

1864
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 7: Man.

1865
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,200
Speaker 1: If you heard my question, I'm just what's what? What's

1866
01:31:15,240 --> 01:31:19,160
Speaker 1: the legend to you? To you? To me?

1867
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:25,519
Speaker 2: A legend is person who stays outside, who doesn't listen

1868
01:31:25,600 --> 01:31:29,000
Speaker 2: to the critiques of these people fall for both of

1869
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,680
Speaker 2: our second album, and they comes back outside and the

1870
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:34,559
Speaker 2: press bevers and keeps going. And I know that word

1871
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,559
Speaker 2: might have just sounded a little crazy, but it keeps

1872
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:42,120
Speaker 2: going and does not let anybody crack them, And let

1873
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 2: me just tell you something.

1874
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:46,759
Speaker 1: You have done that. You have done that already. Celebrate yourself.

1875
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,840
Speaker 2: Pat yourself on the back, and just in case if

1876
01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:52,120
Speaker 2: you don't want to, I'll help you pat yourself on

1877
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:55,640
Speaker 2: the back. Bro, you are fucking legend. Accept that ship, bro,

1878
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 2: accept it because because that's the That's the beautifulest thing

1879
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 2: about this is I know that you're accepting where you at.

1880
01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 2: But you're also like, man, fuck this all right, which

1881
01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:13,599
Speaker 2: is cool.

1882
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 1: I've been there. But you have to look over that ship.

1883
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:19,760
Speaker 3: Bro.

1884
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,559
Speaker 2: You already made it. You're already who it is. There's

1885
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,519
Speaker 2: people who already look up to you. Yeah, they're inspired

1886
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 2: by you. So you just got to accept that ship. Bro,

1887
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 2: You're a fucking legend and accepted.

1888
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:37,640
Speaker 1: I'm just is that cool? Is that cool? Yes? I

1889
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: just want you to know that.

1890
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 2: I want you to know that, like for real, because

1891
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:46,799
Speaker 2: I know what you humble, Yeah, and sometimes being humble

1892
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:51,960
Speaker 2: it's next to being like not accepting your credits, you

1893
01:32:52,000 --> 01:32:54,719
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And now you got to accept

1894
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 2: your credits. Bro, You got to look at the fucking

1895
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:58,960
Speaker 2: the end of the film, the end of the film.

1896
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,720
Speaker 2: Your name is dead as fucking executive you know what

1897
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 2: I mean. Solute to you, brother, Thank you, bro, Solute

1898
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,200
Speaker 2: to you, appreciate it. And salute to your crew for

1899
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:13,320
Speaker 2: holding them down. Salute to you being here man, because

1900
01:33:13,360 --> 01:33:15,719
Speaker 2: this is this is this is beautiful and I wanted

1901
01:33:15,720 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 2: to give you your flowers, brother, and I thank you.

1902
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:24,760
Speaker 1: But this is the last question. How many babies do

1903
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 1: you think you made? Damn?

1904
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:28,160
Speaker 2: Uh?

1905
01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: Did you make love making music? Motherfucker? You know people

1906
01:33:33,400 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: used to say that to me, and I never understood

1907
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:37,840
Speaker 1: because I was like, really making love to this, like

1908
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Speaker 1: motherfucker's to your ship. That's wowd I don't know, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm happy that I contributed you like three three thousands,

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Speaker 1: maybe three hundred thousand babies, who knows, man. I really

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Speaker 1: just hope that I made a lot of men question

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Speaker 1: question the decisions, you know what I'm saying, and and

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Speaker 1: or not even just had just people men they relationships

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Speaker 1: that they might have broken, you know, more than babies.

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Speaker 4: You know, hopefully some babies came out of that. But

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Speaker 4: like you know, if you just meant like I just

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Speaker 4: want to help people get through.

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Speaker 1: They they mentioned the sart their relationships or just really

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Speaker 1: think about it, like damn, you know what, maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: I did up. You know, maybe I need to like,

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Speaker 1: maybe I need to revisit that and and see it

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Speaker 1: from a different perspective.

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Speaker 2: So, so, is there ever a record that you you

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Speaker 2: thought you went too personal on? Because I know you

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Speaker 2: personal question? Uh ship, I can't. I can't recall right now.

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Speaker 1: Especially not about your girl your ex's. Yeah, I can't,

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Speaker 1: I can't recall.

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Speaker 3: Just leave that alone, like you never released music or

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Speaker 3: an album and and kind of like social media.

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Speaker 1: Where you kind of like I kind of exposed too

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Speaker 1: much there. Definitely my second album for Shure, I was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, wait, way too much, you know, Like the

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Speaker 1: Alcum cover itself was inspired by like that that MTV

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Speaker 1: show is called True Life or something shit, exposing like

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Speaker 1: what people are like really going through. I was like,

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Speaker 1: this is all I know that I'm just telling them

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Speaker 1: what I'm going through. So but it was too much,

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Speaker 1: you know. So listen, man, what day?

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Speaker 2: Me and you going, Hey, I just diss each other

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Speaker 2: about our second album.

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Speaker 1: Because you ain't letting it go. And his second album

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Speaker 1: is a classic in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: So I relate to you so much because I know

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Speaker 2: exactly how you feel. Because it's exactly how I feel.

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Speaker 2: But thank you man for being here.

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Speaker 1: Man. I appreciate that man.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate your energy, appreciate rich appreciate all this.

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Speaker 1: Ship man like Yo, You're a legend.

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Speaker 1: I want to give your flowers. Take a picture. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it.

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