1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive Home of the Black and Goals 2 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back. I'm Dale Ally here with 3 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Matt Williams and this is the Drive on Steelers Nation 4 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: Radio and his time for the Fantasy Football Focus and Matt, 5 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: everybody's pretty much drafted their teams at this point, I 6 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: would yeah, I would think so, so I wanted to 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: talk today. ESPN has a story it's by Tristan Cockroft 8 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: on the greatest Fantasy Football Seasons. Now he went in 9 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: the past fifty years. Fantasy football has not been around 10 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:53,160 Speaker 1: for fifty years. I mean, I guess they have the 11 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: information to say what they brown scored this many touchdowns 12 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: and cut many balls. Okay, fair enough, but fantasy football 13 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: itself is only and around since probably the eighties. Yeah, 14 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: I would say we started. I graduated from high school 15 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: and we were doing it at like but that was 16 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: my buddy. Sab would get the USA Today on Tuesday 17 00:01:16,120 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: with a pencil and paper, figure everything out with a calculator, 18 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: stick it in the mail to you, and you hoped 19 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: by Thursday when it was time to make pickups right right, 20 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: right right. So that's where it used to be. So uh, 21 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: his number one quarterback season Tom Brady in two thousand seven, 22 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: two seven. OK. Yeah, he had three D ninety point 23 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: oh four Fantasy points. Uh, what's this VBD? And I 24 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,639 Speaker 1: don't even know what this is? Your value value value 25 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: based drafting is one point four eight. I don't know 26 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: what that means, but maybe like if you had an 27 00:01:57,400 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: auction and that's what he would be worth comparativerybody else, 28 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is. I mean, I'm sure the 29 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: bigger than the number the better. Quick story on that 30 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: I mentioned this league I've been in a million years. 31 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: That year, I remember I picked like six or seven 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: middle of the first round, and I people knew the 33 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: Patriots would be pretty good because before that season they 34 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: traded for Randy Moss and they traded for West Welker. 35 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: But Randy Moss kind of looked done, and Welker people 36 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: to know the heck he was. I mean, the Dolphins 37 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: gave him up in division. So I'm like, this offense 38 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: is gonna be awesome, So I'm taking their running back. 39 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm taking Lawrence moroneunk right, give me the number one 40 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: running back in an elite offense. Didn't matter at all 41 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: because Brady three really crazy? Uh at two Dan Marino, 42 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: that makes sense. Three sixty point six six Fantasy points. 43 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: His value based was one seventy point ninety six. Um, 44 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,519 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was him at twenty three 45 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: years old, he was he was Mahomes. Yeah, I mean 46 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna go to five six Super Bowls. You know, 47 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: lost in Montana, but he'll be back. Exactly how it works. 48 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: He beat the NFL touchdown record by twelve by twelve 49 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: a three year old, when nobody was throwing forty. Nobody'd 50 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: ever thrown forty before. He almost got the fifty and 51 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: people to throw the ball like he did in the 52 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: league at the time. I mean, really, I think he's 53 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback. People always ask anyone taking the league by 54 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: storm like Mahomes has Marino did. Yeah, I mean he 55 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: didn't go to have quite the success, but I mean 56 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: he had that season, and two years later he threw 57 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: forty four touchdown passes. Like I am a firm believer 58 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: that if he would have been drafted in the last 59 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: fifteen years, he would have every NFL record, beat all 60 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Mannings and you know Far and all those guys. Number 61 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: three is one that you probably don't think a lot about. 62 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: It was Randall Cunningham in Oh, that's interesting. His rushing 63 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: yards was two and sixty eight more than any other 64 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: quarterback between nineteen have any three and two thousand one, 65 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: And there's probably three quarterbacks in the league that had 66 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: over and he threw. He threw thirty touchdown passes in 67 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: that that season, which was second in the league. That's 68 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: really something I don't if you remember this, but Matthew 69 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,039 Speaker 1: Berry made a ton of waves predicting one year, is 70 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: this time of year, Michael Vick should be the first 71 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: pick in your draft, and it didn't work out. It 72 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: was falcons Vic and he even said there's too many quarterbacks. 73 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: You always wait on quarterbacks, but Vick should be the 74 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: first pick in your draft. And it's this logic because 75 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's doing you. Think about the year Cordell 76 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: Steward had Yeah, right, right right, he had thirty one 77 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: combined touchdowns twelve I think eleven of the more rushing 78 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: touchdowns eleven rushing touchdowns out of your quarterback. Roughly how 79 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: many rushing yards you have fo hundreds, just like five 80 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: or six. Yeah, and but eleven rushing touchdowns if you're 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: playing in the league, it only counts passing touchdowns for 82 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 1: as four points. To get eleven rushing touchdowns out of 83 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,040 Speaker 1: your quarterback is ridiculous, remarkable, And again I would go 84 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: back to the rushing yards for quarterback. There's no one 85 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: close to him, and maybe there's one that's a terrible player, 86 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: but I mean there wasn't ten good rushing quarterbacks there 87 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: are now you know, he was a real outlier. He 88 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: was a unicorn. Number four and five are actually the 89 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: same guy, Steve Steve Young and ninety four. These are 90 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: just the quarterbacks Steve Young and ninety four Steve Young, 91 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: and they were unbelievably efficient, and he threw a ton 92 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: of touchdowns. He became the first player in the first 93 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: player to pass for at least four thousand yards and 94 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: thirty touchdowns. We also rushing for five touchdowns. I guess right, 95 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,679 Speaker 1: had a good point, I mean, super efficient offense Jerry 96 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: Rice in his prime, and you had five rushing touchdowns 97 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: and two or three hundred yards you know on the ground. Yeah, 98 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: that's that's that's about right. Number six Aaron Rodgers in 99 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven, he had three seven Fantasy points. 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: That's actually more than the guys ahead him on the 101 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: Christinas far but everybody else. It kind of they had 102 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: those years when nobody else was having He used to 103 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: scramble a little bit too, you know. Uh seven is 104 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,559 Speaker 1: Drew Brees in two thousand eleven. This kind of shows 105 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: you the different like kids. So that's the same year. 106 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: This is why Roger season didn't rank higher. He had 107 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: three seven point four two points. Breeze had six four. 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: But if you're one of those two, yeah, they probably 109 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: played each other a lot in the championship game. Yeah, exactly, exactly, 110 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: just a huge advantage of the rest of the league. Uh. 111 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: Number eight just two years after that Peyton Manning with 112 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: the Broncos in when he had I'm actually shocked up 113 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: yet touchdown pass without running at all. I guess Brady 114 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 1: was the same way. It was number one, the first 115 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: quarterback in fantasy history to reach four hundred points in 116 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,280 Speaker 1: a season. Wow, So this is all relative to the right, 117 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: right right? How much better were they everybody else? That's 118 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: why Marinos so high. It wasn't much offense compared to now. 119 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: Number nine is Brett five in he only had three 120 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: hundred seven point five six points, but nobody was throwing 121 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: the football. In fact, I won the Championship that year. 122 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: I remember I drafted Brett farve Um. I'm sure that 123 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: was one of his MVP years. Yeah, I got him 124 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: though in the middle rounds and like rode him like 125 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: a horse, you know, I mean he was a superstar. 126 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: Number ten two thousand four Dante Culpepper Wow three d 127 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: seventy three point two eight points. So the top ten 128 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: Brady Marino, Manning didn't run, Breeze a little, Rogers a little, 129 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,400 Speaker 1: but basically half the list were runners even when there 130 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: weren't runners. You mentioned Mahomes. Mahomes has the record for 131 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: most Fantasy points by quarterback, but four seventeen point eighteen. 132 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: But the others that they were, they were close to that. Yeah, 133 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't an outlier, which again goes to our point 134 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: that you don't draft a quarterback eck early because if 135 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: mahomes record breaking season isn't in these top ten, Like 136 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: if Mahomes has that exact same year this year plus 137 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: one game because the new schedule, will he be that 138 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: much better than Russell Wilson that you got seven rounds later, 139 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: six rounds Josh Allen right right right? The top running 140 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: back this this season was just unbelievable. I think there's 141 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: been a lot of the same names on this one. 142 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: Two thousand six Ladinian Tomlinson, I was taking lt emmett 143 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 1: four hundred one point one touchdown year fantasy touchdown record 144 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: that year. Yeah, and he caught the ball before any 145 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: running backs cut the ball, and that was a cheap code. 146 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Then that's just that's a single season record for PPR 147 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: fantasy points. It's also the non PPR fantasy point total. 148 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: He had four five non PPR part PPR points. Yeah, 149 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: I remember, I mean touchdowns galore and catching the ball 150 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: and a great player, what a player. In weeks six 151 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: through fifteen he had three hundred seventy five point two. 152 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: You weren't losing to anybody, and that's your fantasy playoffs, right, 153 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: all right. Christian McCaffrey's number two. Impressive because there was 154 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: a lot of points, but he put up a thousand 155 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 1: yard rushing, thousand yard receiving. That's that's pretty hard argue with. 156 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: You'll love this one too, this one, this was a 157 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,599 Speaker 1: big one. Priest Holmes in two thousand three three, that 158 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 1: was huge. Hugh Mongous, Yeah, it kind of came out 159 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: of nowhere, right, and he was undrafted player. Yeah. I 160 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: mean he had played for the Ravens and just been 161 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: a guy's been a guy, and then he kind of 162 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: handed the torch over to Larry Johnson on those Chiefs 163 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: teams and put up a lot of Fantasy points too. 164 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 1: There was like a five year stretch their Chiefs backs 165 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 1: doing really well. Number four Tomlinson in two thousand three. 166 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: But year was the first one two thousand six. Okay, 167 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: that a little bit stretched out back. He had four 168 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: D forty three point eight four Fantasy points that year. 169 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 1: I mean that's just monsters. Number five Marshall Falk in 170 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: two thousand I was gonna bring up Falk just because 171 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: of the receptions ahead of the way, ahead of the 172 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 1: curve as a receiver, like I think Falk would catch 173 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: over hundred balls of right now without a dollar. Im 174 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: is catching five. I bet he catches. I can remember 175 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: Bill Kauer talking about him before the Steelers played the 176 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: Colts in the playoffs. What a scary guy Falk was 177 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: as a receiver. Yeah, I mean, even like the Belichick 178 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: famous show on turf. Well, if Warner throws for four 179 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,600 Speaker 1: hundred on us, fine, but we can't let Falk beat us, 180 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: you know, bang him every time out of the backfield. 181 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: Key on him. What a superstar. So that was his 182 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: two thousand years. His two thousand one year was the 183 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: next one at four nineteen point seven oh points. He 184 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: also has the number eight season nine point nine oh 185 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: so in the three year stretchy had one thousand, two 186 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: hundred ninety seven and a half Fantasy points. Like LT, 187 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: there was a four year stretch that he was the 188 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: first overall pick slam down, forget about it. Emtt had 189 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: that's title for a little while too. Yeah. Um after that, 190 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: Priest Holmes in two thousand two four forty point seven 191 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:09,680 Speaker 1: fantasy points. I want to say that's like the will 192 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: Shields Willie rope they could run against. Number nine is O. J. 193 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: Simpson in nineteen seventy five, I think two thousand yards 194 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: and what twelve or fourteen games? Four teen games? He 195 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: had three hundred ninety point three Fantasy points that year. 196 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: This is our first guy from like the seventies, right 197 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: or even ancient histories. Title. Number ten is Emmett Smith 198 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 1: In had four hundred, fourteen point eight fantasy touchdowns. Yeah. 199 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: The wide receivers number one, Jerry rice In is a 200 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: good year for fantasy players, you had Jerry Rice or 201 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith, you were golden. That's the year the Steelers 202 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: would have played them in the Super Bowl, right they 203 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: played Steelers that Uh yeah, ninety four was that they 204 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: played the Cowboys in ninety five in the Super Bowl, 205 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: right right, some year year off. But that was the 206 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: Powerhouse off obviously. Yeah. The offense, he had a hundred. 207 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: He had eight hundred receiving yards. It was the first 208 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: time in NFL history a guy had at least a 209 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: hundred receptions seventeen hundred fifty receiving yards in fifteen touchdowns. Like, 210 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: that's awesome. But I bet number two was a distant second, 211 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: even close. Yeah. Yeah, he probably twenty catches more than 212 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: the next guy. You know. Number two was Randy Moss 213 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: in two thousand three, he had three hundred and seventy 214 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: six fantasy points touchdowns. H They don't have the stats 215 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: list of number three. This one was interesting. Marvin Harrison 216 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: in two thousand two, I think that's a year. Let's 217 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: see here, he had a hundred forty three reception the 218 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: record that would stand for seventeen seasons. Um M M 219 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: and Peyton together. He had four straight years with a 220 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: hundred receptions, fourteen hundred yards and ten touchdown catches. It's 221 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: his money, yeah money. Number four Isaac Bruce and five, 222 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: I guess I didn't remember him massively out promised Halter 223 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: or I mean, but that that offense was way different 224 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: than every other offense. Three and seventy six point eight 225 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: fantasy points. Well, actually a little shocked Warner wasn't mentioned. 226 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: Although it's tough to crack the top ten quarterback scores. 227 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 1: But number five was Randy Moss in two thousand seven 228 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. I thought that was his best year fantasy. 229 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: I'm shocked it wasn't. The other three touchdowns three touchdowns 230 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: they got him for a fifth round pick. Yeah, because 231 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: the Raiders didn't think it was any good anymore. Uh. 232 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 1: Number six Tory Holt in two thousand three, three fifty 233 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: nine point one oh fantasy points. They had to throw 234 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: more than anyone else, anybody else. Yeah, and they had 235 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: folk and right, right, and like as you're a team. Yeah, 236 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: you know he was on a fantasy roster, you know. Uh, 237 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 1: Number seven Jerry Rice and four see a trend here, Yeah, 238 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: you have Moss. How about this one though? This is 239 00:13:55,840 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: another but it's not anybody that you would think number 240 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: eight is Herman Moore with the Alliance. He had three 241 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: hundred seventy one point six Fantasy points that year. I 242 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: don't remember being that dominant. More was a monster player, 243 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: a big, tall, go up and get a touchdown machine. 244 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: But wow, I didn't expect that name in the top 245 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: ten even when you said it, I thought number nine 246 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown in two thousand fourteen, he had three eighty 247 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: six point nine Fantasy points. If you remember the next 248 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: year in was when he was there. He was going 249 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: number one in drafts, and receivers never did and receivers 250 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: never go number one over but there were no running 251 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: backs that jumped out there. He was a sure He 252 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: was a sure thing as there was in fantasy football, 253 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: and Julio was to yeah. But Brown just he had 254 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: the touchdowns, he had the yards he had to catch us. Yeah. Yeah. 255 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: He was a sure things you could get, more so 256 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: than like any receiver in this draft. This was highest 257 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: scoring individual season during a four year stretch from two 258 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: thousand thirteen to two thousand sixteen when he had one. 259 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: I was in nine two point seven Fantasy points over 260 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: three years. The only guys who have ever done more. Ever, 261 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: four the only guys who've ever done that better were 262 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:14,479 Speaker 1: Jerry Rice from two to ninety six and Marvin Harrison. 263 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: This is the thing when people when people talk about 264 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: is Antonio Brown Hall of Famer? He absolutely is right now? Yeah, 265 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: and he oh, by the way, he picked up a 266 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: ring for good measure last year. Uh. And then number 267 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: ten is Jerry Rice and there, I mean, he's just 268 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: killed it, killed it. Wow. I think I saw a 269 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: thing the other day in fact, that if the closest 270 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: receiver to Moss or two two Rice right now, uh, 271 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: in terms of catches with with um the current players 272 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: active guys, I think it is Julio Jones. Makes sense. 273 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: Julio Jones would need to average a thousand yards a 274 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: season for the next ten years to catch Jerry. Right, 275 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: he's thirty two, He's not gonna play that long. Rice 276 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: beaten though, I don't know. I mean, he played, first 277 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: of all, he played along Every passing record is gonna 278 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: get shattered. But his his might not. His years are 279 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: so great that I mean, and there were so many. 280 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 1: That's the other part of it. Like he hadn't he 281 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: stacked seasons. He stacked great a bunch of great seasons 282 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: in a row, and then he did it for a 283 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: long time. I mean he hung on too long. There 284 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: was two or three years where he wasn't the same, 285 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: but that was like his twentieth season and post niners. 286 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: He was still a Pro Bowl or deservedly so, even 287 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: if his last name was Lalie or Williamson. Yeah, I 288 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: mean right, he was stud the tight ends, the number 289 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: one tight end season. He never guessed this one. It's 290 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: a three Todd Christians Todd Christiansen very good. Yeah, he 291 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 1: had nine two catches and twelve receiving touchdowmember that being 292 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: really rare. That's set tight end records that lasted for 293 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: twenty one years. Winslow kind of opened that door. And 294 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: then you know Ozzy was there and Christians and they 295 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: went crazy with him that one. Yeah, I do remember that. 296 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: I kind of problem myself that number two, two thousand, 297 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez. Number three Travis Kelsey. Last year. Kelsey has 298 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: been number one five years in a row. Yeah, I mean, 299 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: I don't know anyone's at a stretch like Kelsey, but 300 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: there's the bar is higher for tight ends now than 301 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: it was three to Kelsey's season was almost twice as 302 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: valuable as the number seven tight end in the league 303 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:32,879 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, I read some amazing Kelsey stats. He 304 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: scored a hundred and thirty six more points than the 305 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: number three tight end. Yeah. I think you may have 306 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: even just said this. I think he had more points 307 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: than the third and fourth tight end put together. I 308 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 1: didn't say that, but that wouldn't surprise me if you 309 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: added up. It's about right. He was like wide receiver. Five. Yeah, 310 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 1: that's why people were taking him in the first round 311 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 1: this year. Uh, you might be a year late on 312 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: that though. Maybe. Yeah, at some point you're gonna start 313 00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: to slow down. Uh. Four Gonzalez in two thousand four. 314 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: What's funny? He is? Who's the best chief tight end ever? 315 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: That's the conversation. It's definitely a conversation. Five is Kelsey 316 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: in two thousand eighteen. Yeah, he's going to the Hall 317 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: of Fame two quick today. I think Six is Christiansen 318 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 1: in six. Nice. He's really a big play guy. But 319 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: just they peppered him. Ye. Seven, get another one here 320 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 1: and one and you're hip pocket Williamson. I'm gonna be 321 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: mad at myself. No, Ben Coach, Ben coach, I've told 322 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: you my Ben coach story. He was our tight end 323 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: coach when I was with the Brown He had nineties 324 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: six catches that year, which broke Christiansen's record. I was 325 00:18:46,359 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: the second tallest guy that played pick up hoops, so 326 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: I got the guard been coach didn't go well, should 327 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: have got it. Number eight Rob Gronkowski in two thousand eleven. 328 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: Little shocked we haven't mentioned him yet. I mean because 329 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: he had big his yards. Kelsey was around. Some of 330 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:08,399 Speaker 1: these other tight ends are around that teams. There's been 331 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: some good ones. Witten and you know nine is the 332 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: same guy. He kind of kicked the eat the door 333 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,159 Speaker 1: and for the tight end position. Kellen Winslow in nineteen 334 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,360 Speaker 1: eighty I'm shocked he wasn't sooner because no tight ends 335 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: were catching it. At eight. He had two hundred seventy 336 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: two points that year. In two thousand or nineteen eighty three, 337 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,679 Speaker 1: he had two hundred fifty three point two Fantasy points. 338 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: He was the cheat code back then. Yeah, he was 339 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 1: Jimmy Christensen, he absolutely was. Yeah, Yeah, Winslow was. Really 340 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: he was one of my favors at the time, and 341 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: a lot of us because that Dolphin game. Everybody remembers 342 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: when I was a kid and that timed up. But man, 343 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: he was way ahead of the curve. Give Cory also 344 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 1: credit for you know, understanding it. Yeah, he was a 345 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: big receiver. That was a matchup issue, especially back then 346 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: there were no Nickel defense and thinking, I was like 347 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 1: they like West Chandler and Charlie Joyner and John Jefferson 348 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: and Muncey was the been the matchup on line backers. Yeah, 349 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: and he must always be on linebackers. You had to 350 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: play dime against that. Nobody even knew what dime was. 351 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: If I said play dime and said what's time? That 352 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: was not even a thing back. You mean, we got 353 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: to bring in a six defensive back get out of here, right, 354 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: and truck Munty would just run overall and was a quarterback. Right. 355 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: Not so bad. Interesting list a lot of a lot 356 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: of seasons there, but but it's interesting though the outliers 357 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: for their day, how much better they were? Yeah, yeah, right, 358 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,880 Speaker 1: you know, I mean in a way Kelsey's been but 359 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, Kittle, Win Waller and these guys have been 360 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: pretty good over that five year stretch to you know, 361 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,360 Speaker 1: like who can be the true outlier for their position 362 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: that we didn't see coming? You know, like it's easy 363 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: to say the running quarterbacks. But I mean you think 364 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: about it, that that that great season that Mahomes had 365 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 1: two years ago didn't rate isn't enough, It wasn't enough 366 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: to get onto this list. And honestly, Derrick Henry is 367 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: not even a glimpse. Didn't make it superstars, doesn't. I 368 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: mean you look at those rundbacks, Tomlinson, Priest Holmes caught 369 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 1: the football. Yes, absolutely, I mean Tomlins, Tomlinson ahead of 370 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,880 Speaker 1: their time. Yeah. O. J. Simpson caught the football back 371 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: in the in the seventies. So like ten years from 372 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: now we're old and gray doing this grey or we're 373 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, how about that running back that through five 374 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: touchdown passes that we didn't see coming? You know what 375 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean, what's the how's the game going to evolve? 376 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,400 Speaker 1: We know running backs to catch passes or a cheek 377 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: code and quarterbacks that run, well, there would be some 378 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: other one down the road. What is it? You know 379 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: running backs that run or a quarter or wid wide 380 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: receivers that get running back or for the football. Right, 381 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,120 Speaker 1: that wide receiver caught a hundball yards rushing going back 382 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: to the wing tea right, right, right? I mean it's 383 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: gonna be something new. Yeah, there always is, but certainly interesting. 384 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: That is however, going to do it for the Fantasy 385 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: Football Focus and the show today. So for my partner 386 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, uh, for Brian Leon Martina keeping us on 387 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 1: the air over the course of the show, I'm Dale Lally. 388 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to this edition of the 389 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Text stand whatever, just don't 390 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: text and drive? Is it? 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