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Speaker 1: Of course. Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This

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Speaker 1: classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, y'all?

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Speaker 2: This is Fante Fonteglo here with this week's QLs classic.

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Speaker 2: This week we talked to my friend, my family, my

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Speaker 2: dear friend. One of the best singers on the planet.

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Speaker 2: Grammy winning singer Layla had the way she talks about

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Speaker 2: carrying on her father Donnie's legacy, working with Prince, singing

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Speaker 2: phone notes at the same time like it ain't shit,

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Speaker 2: her deep love of video games, and plus we get

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Speaker 2: loads of wisdom, loads of words of wisdom from my

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Speaker 2: QS brother Sugar Steve.

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Speaker 1: This is a great episode. Check it out. Originally state

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Speaker 1: was March twenty eight, twenty eighteen pre Roma. It was amazing.

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Speaker 1: Check it out QLs Leila Hathaway QS classic. It's Fonteo Loo.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Supreme mother, some suprema roll called Suprema son supremo

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Speaker 3: role called Suprema suprema role called suprema so supremo roll.

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Speaker 1: Sound of Layla's voice, Yeah yeah, but when she starts harmonizing, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Suprema supremo role called Suprema supremo roll.

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Speaker 2: Call my name is Fante. Yeah, I'm cashing checks. Yeah

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Speaker 2: with my nigga Layla, watching some real sex.

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Speaker 4: Suprema son Supremo, rod come Suprema, Suprema roll call.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sugar.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I love Fela. Yeah, I love Dayla. Yeah, I love Tequila.

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Speaker 1: Suprema some Suprea role still is flying yeah, flying high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah when Layla sings, Yeah, baby don't cry roll.

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Speaker 7: Suprema so SUPREMEA roll call Suprema some.

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Speaker 1: Supreme roll call.

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Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, been called Layla, Yeah, never really minded.

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Speaker 5: Yeah because this girl stays playing you.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, we're talking about my rod turn Suprema. Yeah, really

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Speaker 1: your turn Supreme my role call.

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Speaker 8: My name is Layla, yeah, not Leila.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Supreme roll Suprema some some suprema role called Suprema

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Speaker 4: son Supremo, roll call Suprema s Suprea roll call.

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Speaker 1: Shut up.

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Speaker 8: My first I to give you the cord. The chord

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Speaker 8: was not really popping, just now it came out. There's

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Speaker 8: a lot of air.

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Speaker 1: Okay, stop it.

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Speaker 9: What's going on on the air?

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Speaker 1: Stop it?

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Speaker 9: I just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't stop it. Something to do with Prince probably, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: tell me. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it'll come up another

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Speaker 1: episode of course, Love Supreme. I am quest love, I'm

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Speaker 1: still alive. Yeah, okay, wait, I'm just going to come

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Speaker 1: out and say it. Uh, that was the worst.

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Speaker 6: Come out and say it.

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Speaker 1: It's worth It's worth the wait. Okay, No, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: be professional about this, all right. First of all, I

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Speaker 1: have to say, yeah, we have literally one of the

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Speaker 1: most brilliantly frightening singers ever to walk on this earth.

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Speaker 8: Frightening. You've said that before. He told you what is

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Speaker 8: the frightening part.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into it.

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Speaker 8: She's so cuddly.

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Speaker 1: Because I want you to know that my love for

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Speaker 1: you is beyond awe.

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Speaker 8: Oh that's deep. I'm glad you said that, because it

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Speaker 8: doesn't feel like that.

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Speaker 1: I know, and I know I know you feel a

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Speaker 8: But I appreciate that. I appreciate that that's deep.

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Speaker 1: But this is from such a level of oh god,

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Speaker 1: this feels like the first episode. All right. My name

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Speaker 1: is Ques. All right. First of all, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: please welcome Layla. Half the way you.

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Speaker 8: Intro go down and infamy. I appreciate all of that

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Speaker 8: you had to get through this before.

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Speaker 1: Just tell a story. Okay, Look, just the sound of

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Speaker 1: your voice talking like as I really I want us

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Speaker 1: to be BFFs. But the sound of your voice is

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Speaker 1: quasi traumatic for me. The speaking sound I love when

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Speaker 8: Yes, it's speaking sound, just regular.

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Speaker 1: I know, it is, it is, it is, it is,

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Speaker 8: Interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is a hell of a way to

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Speaker 8: Get it out right.

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Speaker 1: They're just all laughing at me because they know that

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Speaker 9: Is that the first time you've heard that? Because I'm sure.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 8: It's interesting to me because I know, you know, like

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Speaker 8: I know that I sound like my parents, both my parents.

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Speaker 8: But it's interesting that people sound is deep. Sound is

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Speaker 1: It's deep, though, did your mom did she sing as well? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: My mom is a singer. My parents met at Howard

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Speaker 1: I get it now. I definitely sound like my father.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes my dad passed last January, and every time

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Speaker 9: Anyway, talk about nowhere to go?

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Speaker 1: But actually, can you answer all your questions and your

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Speaker 1: neal diamond voices? Yes? Absolutely? Like yeah, Like I kind

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Speaker 1: of want to bring our online relationship out to here

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Speaker 1: and some times when you sit on the show and

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Speaker 1: you have. Yeah, I love talking about that stuff. Anyway.

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Speaker 1: Can I assume that you were where were you born?

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Speaker 8: I was born in Chicago. I like to think of

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Speaker 1: I feel you born what part of Chicago.

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Speaker 8: Born on the South Side, grew up on the North Side,

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Speaker 1: Can you explain like Chicago to me? I mean, Chicago

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Speaker 1: But I mean, what is when you think of Chicago?

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Speaker 8: Is Chicago has many things?

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Speaker 8: Chicago is? I mean, anybody from Chicago will tell you

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Speaker 8: You know, people, Chicago's either south Side or north Side.

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Speaker 1: That's its south Side represents what.

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Speaker 8: That's for black folks. North Side is white folks, South

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Speaker 8: and there's the West Side, but there's definitely a delineation

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Speaker 8: there's definitely that aspect, you know. So I grew up

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Speaker 8: Like, Vin, I went to a performing art high school.

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Speaker 8: I don't have a huge memory of my life before

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Speaker 8: like seventh grade, sixth grade, I went to Performing Arts

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Speaker 1: Any other notable students there that are now.

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Speaker 8: John Cusack, Laura Flamboyle, You said John or Joanes? John

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Speaker 1: Of course. Okay, that's why he said fidelity. And well

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Speaker 1: he was in shyrek as well.

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Speaker 8: Preacher and those John Hughes films. You know, all of

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Speaker 8: Robin Tunney, who's on the Mint Yeah, Lar flam Boyle.

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Speaker 8: I said that she's you know a lot of kids.

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Speaker 1: So you're obviously your major was vocal.

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Speaker 8: Well see I got to the school and I sang.

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Speaker 8: I walked in, I had my sheet music and I

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Speaker 8: was singing this Anne Murray song and I was probably

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Speaker 1: You needed me, you needed me. What is what is

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Speaker 1: up with you in country? I don't know, I really

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Speaker 1: I just the midwesterns.

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Speaker 8: It might be it might be that it might be

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Speaker 8: growing up, those were some of the songs that captured me,

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Speaker 8: those voices and those songs like you know, you could

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Speaker 8: pull them like taffy.

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Speaker 1: Are you the youngest or oldest in your oldest? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so you discovered the music first. Did you hang with

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Speaker 8: I mean my cousins were like, you know, I have

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Speaker 8: I love I love country music. I love Dolly Parton

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Speaker 8: and all that growing up.

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Speaker 1: But how I mean, how was this introduced to you

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Speaker 1: if it's not an older cousin, older sibling, or were

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Speaker 8: It was not a big whoop to understand who those

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Speaker 8: people were in the seventies and eighties before I.

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Speaker 1: Was born, right, Okay, it was.

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Speaker 8: Nothing to see Lionel Ritchie with Dolly Parton somewhere, everything

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Speaker 1: On Saturday Night, Barbara Crystal Gale.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, all of that stuff for me, even like the Eagle,

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Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you chose Anne Murray, you need it?

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Speaker 8: I did. I did, and dude started playing and I

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Speaker 8: This dude, I told you. We sat in the hotel

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that, My members.

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Speaker 9: When you find your tribe, it's nice.

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Speaker 2: So when I first got on Twitter right now, this

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Speaker 2: And every time Real Sex came on HBO, Layla would

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Speaker 1: She would just alwayshow yep, watching real six this is episode.

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Speaker 1: I just I was like, yo, like lately you really

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Speaker 9: Like thirty of them at this point.

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Speaker 8: It's real sex and I'm showing them. And now they've

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so that's that's me.

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Speaker 8: And that's what you called me, Real Sex.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's her name, Real Sex. Every time they come on,

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Speaker 1: I checked my Twitter, Yeah, Leila has the way is

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Speaker 1: right there? Different? But yes, no, no, no, it's just

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Speaker 9: We just but does that say something about you though, Layla?

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Speaker 8: I don't know, does it. I watch a lot of TV.

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Speaker 9: I mean, but you know all the real sexes I do.

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Speaker 8: Then you make friends with iknew, I knew one of

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Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, what city was that the poet episode?

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Speaker 1: I was thinking d C too, but Los Angeles. How

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Speaker 1: do you know that? So quickly Google? Yes we here,

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Speaker 1: Google's lightning festways.

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Speaker 9: Bill said, oh, google.

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Speaker 1: That Betty. Yes, the three girls with the like kind

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Speaker 6: This is all good stuff for real. I'm just like

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Speaker 1: Was terrible, it was good, it was good, it was good.

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Speaker 7: Here's a here's a sex house, and in the middle

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Speaker 8: I'm just saying they were interesting, Like let's pay four

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Speaker 1: That's what they were doing, like have that connection caucastity.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you ain't watch real sex.

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Speaker 1: I think during this period we were like living in

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Speaker 8: Because you're probably way smarter for it, though, you.

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Speaker 1: Know now I feel left out, like is this on?

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Speaker 8: I learned a lot on that program about like furries

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Speaker 2: So that was our real sex, was our window into

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Speaker 8: Into mostly white people.

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Speaker 1: It was like it was like one of them swingers coming.

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Speaker 8: I was like, man for the girl with the girl

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Speaker 1: That was like cosplace.

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Speaker 9: That was like in betweens were nice to when they

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Speaker 1: well on Chappelle Show when he would do to talk

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Speaker 6: Don't waste your time.

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Speaker 1: It's actually kind of funny now to watch. It's more

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Speaker 8: Eighty six? I got to Berkeley?

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Speaker 9: You got there in two thousand.

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Speaker 8: I had a really great experience at Berkeley. I mean

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Speaker 8: I really that was where I really my mind started going. Oh,

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Speaker 1: Everything could have made beats.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing.

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Speaker 8: So I got there and I really started really listening

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Speaker 1: Do you play an instrument?

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Speaker 8: I play keys?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you went for keyboards or no.

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Speaker 8: Just for singing. But you know I would show up

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm a SKO fan.

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Speaker 8: I love Carla Blae.

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Speaker 6: People don't know about her.

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Speaker 8: I never I know. She was the first show I

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Speaker 8: But that was the first show I saw at Berkeley,

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Speaker 8: what are these people doing? Steve?

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Speaker 6: What year was that?

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Speaker 9: Eighty six?

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Speaker 6: So right right when you were born?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. What the mind can you captured at the

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out what music she

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Speaker 8: I don't remember what album she had out at that time.

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Speaker 8: I just remember the show was a dollar for students.

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Speaker 1: Wow. How she get paid though I don't like the universe. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: They probably just didn't pay her much for it. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: they probably didn't pay much a dollar And Hirom was

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 8: Subsequently, I saw Michael Brecker in that room. I saw

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Speaker 8: it's just Muhammad in that room.

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Speaker 1: I saw.

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Speaker 8: I saw so many people in that performance center, Like

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Speaker 1: I do?

444
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 8: I mean, you know, I have a love for it.

445
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,360
Speaker 6: Most people go to Berkeley study have to study it anyway.

446
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it just comes up. It comes up. Yeah,

447
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 8: I think people think I'm a jazz singer. I don't

448
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 8: know if that's you.

449
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 9: You say you sing jazz, wouldn't say it sings such times.

450
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,360
Speaker 8: I mean, I think my approaches like that. I don't

451
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,200
Speaker 8: know what I would call myself, like a soul singer

452
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 8: or a jazz singer.

453
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 10: I don't really jazz jazz singer was recorded.

454
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 6: Diamonds go ahead, Yeah, I love on the rocks. We

455
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 6: should shot at where we are.

456
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry I forgot to mention at the top

457
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,480
Speaker 1: of the show when I was being traumatized that we

458
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 1: are live at sunsets down studios. The I still want

459
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: to say. I know it's much more than just Prince,

460
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 1: but obviously I start with Prince, but yeah, much further back. Yeah,

461
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: it's opened in nineteen six doors Zeppelin twos down here?

462
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 6: What else the doors uh van Halen.

463
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: Zeppelin too, A lot of a lot of a lot

464
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 1: of Warner Brothers, uh at Jubie Brothers. Yeah, by minute

465
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 1: was made here.

466
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 6: Yes, but but then the Purple Rain, obviously.

467
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: Purple Rate nineteen ninety nine was made and here the

468
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: song Purple Range in the album in a different room,

469
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: here and a differently. The song was recorded at First

470
00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: Avenue where we were a couple of but he did

471
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: a lot of over ups here, but nineteen ninety nine

472
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: was down here. Majority of around the world in the day,

473
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: like before he built Paisley Park, this was his this

474
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: was his playground. After the taping, I'm gonna go to

475
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: the seven eleven across the street, where he would often get.

476
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 8: I'm going with you. I've been on I've been on

477
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 8: Prince lately, like I dreamt about him. The other night

478
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 8: we were we were trying to get to a gig

479
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:27,639
Speaker 8: and we were snowed in somewhere and Jaden Smith was

480
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 8: there for some reason.

481
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: Talk some more change Smith, thank you.

482
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 8: It was it was like two thousand and five and

483
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 8: we were somewhere at a hotel literally like a a Laquenta.

484
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 8: He was He was sitting up in the bed and

485
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 8: I was laying down at the foot of the bed,

486
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 8: and he was saying, you could lay up there if

487
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 8: you want to. And I was like, I'm cool, and

488
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 8: we were just watching TV.

489
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 9: Oh, but he says, you can lay That's interesting, you

490
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 9: can up there if you want to.

491
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 8: I appreciated it.

492
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: What does it all mean? Do you ever we need

493
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: like a dream interval of somebody to break up shit.

494
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: Now it makes sense to me because does he does

495
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: he still since his passing? Does does he appear to you? Often?

496
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 8: And not often? Occasionally? But I got to spend a

497
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 8: very concentrated moment of time with him, And you know,

498
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 8: I had this fear in my heart, like I've been

499
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 8: wanting to meet him and play with him since I'm

500
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 8: eleven or twelve years old, and I've heard all these

501
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 8: things and and and you don't look at him in

502
00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 8: the eye right. And when I opened for him those

503
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 8: few dates, he was so cool and so gracious and

504
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:47,199
Speaker 8: so that.

505
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: New York run was the first time that you met him. Yeah,

506
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: what year was that? That was two thousand and Oh

507
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: that show was on my birthday too, that I went.

508
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: What day, the fifteenth of December?

509
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 8: I'm the sixteenth.

510
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 1: Oh nice, Yeah, it was awesome, happy belated, Uh, thank you.

511
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 8: I'm seventeen now, so.

512
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, you got something.

513
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: We did.

514
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 8: We did like four cities with him, four or five

515
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 8: cities with him. It was it was just cool.

516
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: It's hard for your band to adjust because I know

517
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: that the on the on the other side of that

518
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: coin when you weren't opening those dates. Sometimes Sharon Jones

519
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: and the Daft Kings were trying to open those dates

520
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 1: and they wouldn't allow them to use their their equipment

521
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: and you know, like their sonic and their equipment is

522
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: is very key to their presentation. So watching Sharon Jones

523
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: and the dap Kings perform on MPG uh yeah, equipment

524
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: not allowed to adjust anything. Everything sounds crystal clear. Yo.

525
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: It was the funny show. It was the funniest show

526
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: I've ever It was with the exception of the horns

527
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: and the sound of Sharon's voice, like everything was like

528
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven sound. It was great.

529
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 8: He was so cool to us and so like magnanimous

530
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 8: and gracious, and he would come stand on the stage

531
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 8: during my soundcheck and request songs.

532
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Was that weird? Yeah? What kind of songs would he requests?

533
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 8: He likes the song that I wrote called What Goes Around,

534
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 8: and he would request that. You know, so they send

535
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 8: you this list when you're gonna go open for him,

536
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 8: and it's like, please, you know, pick two or three

537
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 8: songs if you'd like to sing with Prince, you know,

538
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 8: for the songs. And I looked at the list and

539
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 8: I was like, I don't want to sing any of

540
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 8: these songs. I want to sing Diamonds and Pearls. I

541
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 8: want to do Park Sexy Dancer. He literally showed up

542
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 8: and his hand was here, and I looked at him

543
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 8: and I said, listen, I don't feel comfortable presenting myself

544
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 8: with you with the so I have gas. I told

545
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 8: him that, and he said what And I said, I

546
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 8: have gas, and I just I really want to I

547
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 8: really want to get into it with you where we

548
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 8: can be at the same place. He said, okay, what

549
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 8: do you want to sing? And I said, well, can

550
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 8: I see your set list? And he was like yeah,

551
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 8: And then somebody brought the set list over and I

552
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 8: was like, I want to do Diamonds and Pearls. I

553
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 8: know you don't do that anymore. He said, yeah, we

554
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 8: don't do that. I said, okay, why don't we do

555
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 8: sometimes the Snows in April. So I did that with him,

556
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 8: and that night was my birthday. And after we finished

557
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 8: singing sometimes the Snows in April. It's so crazy when

558
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 8: I think about it, like that shit actually happened. I'm

559
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 8: rising up on the stage. He said, all right, stand

560
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 8: right here, go up, take my microphone. When you get

561
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 8: up there, do whatever you want and I'll be up.

562
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 8: And I was like, okay, So I'm standing on this thing,

563
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 8: just still tripping, trying to breathe, and the thing rose

564
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 8: up and I was just standing there and all these

565
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 8: people like a and the dress was blowing and I'm

566
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 8: just singing sometimes and there he is again, and then

567
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 8: we're singing on the same mic, and I just I

568
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,080
Speaker 8: wanted to lick him, but I knew that was.

569
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 9: What is smelling.

570
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 8: It were ruined. He smelled great. He was He's everything

571
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 8: you thought he was. And when we finished, I got

572
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 8: ready to leave and he said, no, no, no, come

573
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 8: with me, and he took me across the stage to

574
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 8: the other side of the stage and we did Diamonds

575
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 8: and Pearls. It was awesome and I said, oh my god, yeah,

576
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 8: I mean, I can't remember, I can't remember how much

577
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 8: we did.

578
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 6: It was.

579
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 8: It was an interesting interpretation of the of the record.

580
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 8: It wasn't like the full thing, I don't think. And

581
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 8: when we stood up and people were plotting, I said,

582
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 8: oh my god, thank you so much. It's my birthday.

583
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 8: That's the greatest thing ever. He said, well, I don't

584
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 8: celebrate birthdays. But congratulations, Am I tripping it?

585
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 1: Doesn't?

586
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 9: I mean a mirror?

587
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 5: Maybe you can answer this, is that very courageous because

588
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 5: the average singer, I mean, there is no average singer

589
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 5: who will be singing with Prince. But it just seems

590
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: like the average person would not have felt the courage

591
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 5: enough to be like, yo, I don't feel comfortable.

592
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 9: Can we sing this song?

593
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

594
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 8: I mean I didn't want to get up there and

595
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 8: not take the moment like I You know, if I

596
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 8: had gone up and just been sitting there while he

597
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 8: was playing, which I did a few nights, I'd have

598
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 8: been better off than singing anything that I was unfamiliar

599
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 8: with or not connected to.

600
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 6: You didn't want to sing some whack twenty song.

601
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 8: That's that's now what I'm saying.

602
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 9: I'm just saying most singers would.

603
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, why didn't you? Like?

604
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,239
Speaker 6: That's an incredible, incredible.

605
00:32:58,560 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 8: He was the greatest.

606
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 6: He was the greatest, incredible on your birthday?

607
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 8: It's crazy.

608
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: So when you graduated, you got how did you get

609
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: your record deal?

610
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 8: I got my record deal the way they did it

611
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 8: in the seventeen hundreds. I made a tape and someone

612
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 8: took it to a record label, and a guy named

613
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 8: Jeff Foreman signed me.

614
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: Do you know Jeff Foreman, I'm sure does.

615
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 8: Ma's cousin. He was a rep at Virgin Records at.

616
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: The I think mentioned him, you know episode I'm sure

617
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: you do.

618
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, And I got signed right when I was in school.

619
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 8: So I would come out here on the train and

620
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 8: listen demos and record demos and go back and forth

621
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 8: like that.

622
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: You did four original songs or I.

623
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 8: Did no original songs on the first album, No.

624
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: No, No, no No. I'm talking about your demo that

625
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: got very taking.

626
00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 8: The demo was a Renee and angela song which I

627
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 8: cannot find, which was a banger, another ballad.

628
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 5: You know.

629
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 8: I had a manager at that time, right in high

630
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 8: school named Raynard Minor.

631
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: I know who.

632
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 8: You probably know who raynar Minor is as well. He

633
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 8: was a songwriter at Motown, blind songwriter who wrote your

634
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 8: na is Living Yes, And we wrote these songs and

635
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 8: they are classic. If I ever find them, I'll let

636
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 8: you know. I hope you don't find them before I do.

637
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 8: And we turned him in and I got a deal

638
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 8: like that. So I was going back and forth from

639
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 8: college and making the record.

640
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: So I know on your debut record you worked with

641
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: You worked with Donzela. You also work with Andre Fisher, Yeah,

642
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 1: nephew of Claire Fisher and drummer Rufus. Oh, Chucky worked

643
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: on Obvious, the.

644
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 8: Song obvious not Obvious. No, that was Chuckie. Don't put

645
00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 8: that on Chucky.

646
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: You have an own.

647
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 8: Heaven knows, Derek Bramble. Chucky did a song called Sentimental Sentimental. Yes, right,

648
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 8: So a lot of my first record was covers, even

649
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 8: though you know people don't know that it's something was

650
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 8: a cover.

651
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 1: I'm coming back, you know that for the longest Yeah,

652
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm coming invest original.

653
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 4: Yeah.

654
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 8: Gary Taylor wrote that song for her and I learned

655
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 8: her version of it to sing.

656
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: Ah. Did her version ever come out? Yeah? It was

657
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 1: on their first album. Oh damn, I missed that. Okay,

658
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: So what was the decision behind covering the songs or

659
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: covering obscure songs?

660
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 8: People were just bringing music to me. You have to remember,

661
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 8: like at that point, I'm eighteen, I'm basically in my

662
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 8: mind on the path of like Janet Jackson. Right, I'm

663
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 8: making this record and they got me in like this

664
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 8: little tight jacket and I'm on the La River like

665
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 8: posed with my little weave, and they're bringing the songs

666
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 8: to me, and there are people in my ears like,

667
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 8: you know, don't worry about writing, They're just gonna tailor

668
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 8: make all this whole record for you. And I'm thinking, Okay,

669
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 8: this is probably that bullshit, but it's cool because I'm

670
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 8: on my way and I'm gonna get in and I'm

671
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 8: gonna do what I have to do. So I didn't

672
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 8: write anything on that record.

673
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: So up until that point, including high school and including college,

674
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: and including your pursuit of a record deal, no one

675
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: was thinking was connecting the dots from your father's lineage

676
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: to your lineage as far as like your deal or whatever.

677
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: It's just like, okay, let's just I don't know if.

678
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 8: They were I don't know. I don't I don't you

679
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 8: know there was a lite.

680
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 1: Were your peers in school where that I think royalty?

681
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 8: I think so, I think, you know. When I got

682
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 8: to Berkeley, the first thing that happened to me is

683
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 8: I was walking up the steps and Walter Beasley, who's

684
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 8: a saxophone player who was one of my instructors at Berkeley,

685
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 8: came up behind me and said, hey, are you Leila Hathaway?

686
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 8: And I said yes. He said, are you Doney's daughter

687
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 8: And I said yes. He said, well, get your get

688
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 8: your ratings. I want you to be in my ensemble.

689
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 8: And that was the first I was like, oh, just

690
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 8: because I'm Donnie's daughter, that's what you want. And then

691
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 8: I realized like oh, that people were kind of approaching

692
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 8: me in a different way. That was the first time

693
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,800
Speaker 8: I was really aware of any kind of cachet on

694
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 8: that level.

695
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, was it in hindsight? Was it beneficial or was

696
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: you rather than just not known?

697
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 8: And it's hard to say. I'd have to do it

698
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 8: the other way. I just don't know, you know what

699
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 8: I mean. I think when I walk in the door

700
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 8: as a singer, I recognize that I bring with me

701
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 8: like forty years before me. You know, I walk in

702
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 8: with a brand that people have already an association with,

703
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 8: be that traumatic or you know whatever, is that association.

704
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 8: I recognize that that precedes me when I walk in

705
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 8: a room. So at some point I started feeling like okay,

706
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 8: and I don't even think it was a conscious effort,

707
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 8: but I started understanding like, Okay, clearly i'ma have to

708
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 8: be bad as hell otherwise.

709
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: So what is that pressure? Because that's the thing. I

710
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: part of your question at the top, like what feels

711
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 1: some sort of way, like how come you never told

712
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: me this or whatever? Because I also know that that

713
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: pressure of damn hathaway, it wasn't a pressure.

714
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 8: Though it was mostly it was mostly me hanging out

715
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 8: with all these dudes knowing that.

716
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 6: For me.

717
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 8: Fortunately they accepted me into their little group, so that

718
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 8: meant I got to learn like I wasn't the girl

719
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 8: singing in front of the band. I was sitting with

720
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 8: them and smoking cigarettes and blowing over Scotch charts, you

721
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 8: know what I mean. I knew that aside from my lineage,

722
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 8: aside from the name, that I wanted to be a badass.

723
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 8: I wanted to be able to go to a session

724
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 8: and not be thought of as the chick singer. That

725
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 8: was a big deal for me. It has. It had

726
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 8: grown into understanding that people placed me alongside my dad

727
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 8: and and people began to ask like, is there any pressure?

728
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 8: Is there a pressure you know on you with your father?

729
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,320
Speaker 8: And I never felt like there was a pressure. I

730
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 8: have always been super aware of the fact that there's

731
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 8: there's there's him, and there's me and we. For some

732
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,399
Speaker 8: people are like this but I recognize that I can.

733
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 8: I can comfortably develop into a badass because I come

734
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 8: from the greatest that ever lived. So I have a

735
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 8: runway to work.

736
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 1: With, you know what I mean.

737
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, I.

738
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, just as a fan, like,

739
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: I never drew. I never drew that comparison, you know

740
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Or you know, in terms of you

741
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: talk about just having the weight of the expectations. I

742
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: think the thing that sets you apart from maybe other

743
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: people that you know come from that kind of lineage,

744
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 2: is that you were just dope. So it was almost

745
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 2: like for me, it was kind of retroactive. It's like

746
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 2: you hear this dope singer and then you find out

747
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: who her dad is, Like, oh well, okay, so at

748
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 2: least it's.

749
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 1: Genetically unfit, that's what you said.

750
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,400
Speaker 2: It gives you more explanation. And I was like, oh,

751
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: so that's why she's okay, I get it. I mean,

752
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 2: you know what I mean versus some for you, versus

753
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 2: someone like.

754
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: Like like Nona Gay or something. You know what I mean,

755
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: that's a little shots fired shots The things we all

756
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,919
Speaker 1: do for love is a great yes, But I'm just saying,

757
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: but that's someone in that position. I like Love Records.

758
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 8: For the Few.

759
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: There was some dope songs on that record. But I'm

760
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: just saying someone.

761
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 8: Somebody really committed to it, right, Yeah, I get it.

762
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: Okay. So what I want to know is during your

763
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:50,320
Speaker 1: your Berkeley years and which you are holding your craft,

764
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: are you actively like, are you aware that you have

765
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: the same uh texture of yes, genetically? Are you aware

766
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 1: that you have the same texture? No? And the thing

767
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: is do you try to avoid it or it's just

768
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: like fuck it? This is what I have.

769
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 8: No, it is what it is, and i've and I

770
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,400
Speaker 8: have as a singer. Now what it's a weird storm.

771
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 8: It's a perfect storm because all the girls are singing

772
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 8: way up here and I'm trying, and there's blood. It's

773
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 8: just all bad. And so as I'm trying to figure

774
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 8: out how to manipulate my vocal so I don't have

775
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 8: to be up there and in pain, then I'm finding

776
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 8: my voice, you know.

777
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: So it hurts you to sing soprano? Or it did.

778
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 8: I wasn't sure.

779
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 5: You know.

780
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,839
Speaker 8: What it was was my body saying okay, you can

781
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 8: conform to that shit, or you can figure out what

782
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 8: you got. Yeah, And that's what I that's what I

783
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:48,800
Speaker 8: learned to do.

784
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: Okay, So when you're in the shower or just singing

785
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 1: to yourself in the car? Uh control? So are you

786
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 1: singing when I wass uf do with people?

787
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 8: Told me a lot of time, Yeah, Or I'm making

788
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 8: up really super up to harmonies, you know, or trying

789
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 8: to sing hybrids on top of shit, I'm doing the

790
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 8: weird the weird ship.

791
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: So do you gravitate more too male singers when you like,

792
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 1: who are your favorite singers?

793
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 8: My favorite singers are like, you know, my dad and

794
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 8: Stevie and ne King Cole and Johnny Hartman and I

795
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 8: really love Prince and I mean there's a lot of

796
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 8: I definitely probably gravitate in terms of things to sing

797
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 8: to male songs. Like if I'm gonna put a cover

798
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 8: in the show, nine times out of ten, it's gonna

799
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 8: be like a Charlie Wilson cover or Maurice White cover

800
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 8: or you know like that.

801
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, Aye, the closest I'm trying to think that

802
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 2: even the closest female singer I can think of in

803
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: your lane is like Cassandra Wilson, I.

804
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: Mean down there too, oh yeah, oh yeah, Jasmin's hoping.

805
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, guys, have you had

806
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 5: conversation with some of these ladies because Sondra, Jasmine, Anita,

807
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 5: Tony Yep, where y'all bind on these moments of never Tony.

808
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 8: I've never met Tony. I have talked to Anita about

809
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 8: it many times because you know, growing up, her voice

810
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 8: for me was one of those voices I heard and

811
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 8: I thought, oh this is this is hm. You know

812
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 8: those songs I knew I could sing no songs and

813
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 8: Angel became one of those songs. Like I used to

814
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 8: be all the time with the hair brush like and

815
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 8: when I was that age singing along with Anita Baker,

816
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,799
Speaker 8: I would sing that song an octave lower under her.

817
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 9: You know what was her critique of Angel?

818
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,160
Speaker 8: She liked it. You know, she told me that I

819
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 8: should cover all of her music.

820
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: WOA. She was nice, nice, she's.

821
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 8: She's she's beautiful, and she's another person like I was

822
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 8: kind of afraid to meet. But all the people I

823
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 8: have ever met that I really idolized have been so cool.

824
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 8: You know, I've been really lucky.

825
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 5: You're an awesome but you're an awesome cover that also

826
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: gives it's weird. It's like you give your own version.

827
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 5: But it's an honor in a way.

828
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's and that's the point, is to pay

829
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 8: homage to it. But I'm absolutely trying to eraseial ship

830
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 8: from consciousness.

831
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: No, no, no, in a way, you can't.

832
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 8: You can't make You cannot make something without what came

833
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 8: before it. So what I'm what I'll say there is

834
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 8: I want my thing to stand next to yours, and

835
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 8: then separately, I'm trying to create a new original from

836
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 8: that thing that.

837
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: You gave me to me. The king of that well,

838
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: kings of that word, Brothers and Luther like they like

839
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: I never knew. I'm got me tell you.

840
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 8: Someone else that killed that too is Donny Hathaway. Oh yeah,

841
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 8: I mean I did not even know that this is horrible.

842
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know.

843
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 8: I didn't I didn't know. My father did so many

844
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 8: covers and I do so many covers, but I never

845
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 8: no one told me that John lennamro jealous guy. And

846
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 8: when I heard him singing it, like when I was seventeen,

847
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 8: I thought, why is he singing the song? I didn't

848
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 8: understand it. I didn't understand it. Marvin Gay wrote What's

849
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 8: going on till I was like thirteen or fourteen years old,

850
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 8: because everybody always played my father's version of that with

851
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 8: that bridge, so I never knew that. So he had

852
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 8: a way of taking a cover and really interpreting it

853
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 8: into a new thing, and even even Superwoman. When I

854
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 8: listen to that, now, that's that's the one I want

855
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 8: to hear. I'm biased, but that's the one I want to.

856
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: Hear from the poor black genius. I still remember the

857
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: first time I heard that Superwoman cover. I think DJ

858
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: Spinner played at one of the Wonderful parties. Party just

859
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: stopped and I think like half the room cried.

860
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 5: It's a lot.

861
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a lot.

862
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 6: So uh, my dad was a dentist.

863
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm slacking, sorry forgive me.

864
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 11: Here we go.

865
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 1: Blessed my dad. God did you so as far as

866
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 1: the performance of the first record, I mean, were there

867
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: expectations for you to What were your expectations as far

868
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: as the outcome of your.

869
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 8: My expectations, Oh, I thought I was on the way

870
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:31,719
Speaker 8: you owned the way you got this record nowaday and

871
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 8: taking your picture. I had these dreams of where I

872
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 8: was going to be, you know, in these big places

873
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 8: with like fifty thousand people, and I was going to

874
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 8: be at you know, at MSG, and I was going

875
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 8: to be all these places. And what I was finding

876
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 8: out was I went into that record feeling like, at

877
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,280
Speaker 8: that point in my life, I felt like a jazz musician.

878
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 8: I felt like I moved to LA because my label

879
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,879
Speaker 8: told me I had to because our Senio was here

880
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,759
Speaker 8: and you got to be in LA. But what I

881
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 8: really wanted to do was go to New York where

882
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 8: all my friends were going. And I wanted to go

883
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 8: to fifty five and see Mike Stern, and I wanted

884
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 8: to go see Scow and I wanted to be in

885
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,799
Speaker 8: that environment where I was still creating music every day

886
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 8: with musicians. And I kept thinking, if I moved to LA,

887
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 8: I'm gonna get soft, I'm gonna make this record, and

888
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 8: I'm gonna do what I have to do, and it's

889
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 8: gonna afford me this life where I can I can

890
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 8: play the fifty five bar when I want with GO,

891
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 8: and then I can do MSD you When I had

892
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 8: this dream in my mind of having this kind of career.

893
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, this pop world and serious musician world.

894
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 7: Absolutely so, I'm sorry just to interject here, it's John

895
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 7: Schofield for our listeners, right, is that what you're talking about?

896
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 6: Yes, okay guitar player. Yes, have you worked with him

897
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 6: or I come across him?

898
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 8: Since I have come across a lot of those those

899
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 8: people that I you know, got my a lot of

900
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 8: the synapses flying listening to their music, firing listening to

901
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 8: their music. I met him at International Jazz Day with

902
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 8: Herbie and Marcus last year and he told me that

903
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 8: he loved my voice, and I literally like almost went

904
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:14,040
Speaker 8: down on my knees, like, yeah, huge fan.

905
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

906
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 6: He sat in with the Roots on the Tonight show,

907
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,919
Speaker 6: and so it's true.

908
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 8: I know, I really I really want to play with him,

909
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 8: like him, just him and me. I want to just

910
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 8: see what happens.

911
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, you should, you should pursue that.

912
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 8: I'm super I'm super enamored though, just because we're talking

913
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 8: about SCO. Just I'm super enamored with the period of SKO,

914
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 8: which is still warm, Electric Outlets go. You know how

915
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 8: you go through these sort of He's in these periods

916
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 8: after that was sort of the now She's Blonde period

917
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 8: and I'm electric Outlets, still warm, Shenoby, I mean, Shanola.

918
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 8: These are albums, yeah, Shanola, and what years are and

919
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 8: I'm gonna say eighty two to eighty six eighty seven.

920
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 6: Mark Kelly, the bass player from the Roots, played with

921
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 6: Schofield for a while.

922
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 9: Huge fan to Berkeley, do.

923
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: Oh there it is.

924
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 6: Shout out to Mark Kelly.

925
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 2: When you after your first album and you went into

926
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: the second record, what was the because I mean we've

927
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 2: talked let me love you, I want you to do

928
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 2: that live.

929
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: I love that song, Thank you for Like, how did that?

930
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: What was the expectation going into the second one? From

931
00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: the label side, you know, it was a weird time.

932
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 8: It was a time of transition for everybody in the

933
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 8: music industry. Everything was moving toward this where we are

934
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:41,719
Speaker 8: right now, and I felt myself sort of feeling like, hmm,

935
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 8: there's an element of music that my records don't really express.

936
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 8: And I found at Virgin like they had just signed di'angelo,

937
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 8: they had signed Janet, they were doing a lot of things,

938
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 8: and I wasn't at that time. Also, Keith Crouch was

939
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 8: working with me on that record and he had just

940
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 8: started working with Brand. So I was seeing where everything

941
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,800
Speaker 8: was headed and I was really excited about it. My

942
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 8: record didn't really express all of that, and right when

943
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 8: the record came out like the second week they I

944
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 8: got dropped, and it was the saddest period of my life.

945
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,239
Speaker 8: And I was so happy and so sad because I

946
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,799
Speaker 8: felt like, Okay, now I can move in the way

947
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 8: I want to move. I can make these records and

948
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 8: do these live in these different spaces and create the

949
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 8: way I want to create. And then it was another

950
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 8: ten years before I made a record.

951
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: Does it feel like the end of the world like

952
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: it did.

953
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 8: At that point? You know, I was like twenty five

954
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 8: years old, and what I couldn't understand. I couldn't understand

955
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 8: it because we only got through that first single, which

956
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 8: was let Me Love You, and I went to see

957
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 8: Janet Jackson and I went to see Paul Abdul, and

958
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 8: I couldn't understand, like, you guys wouldn't give me money

959
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 8: to rent a piano on a date, and you spend

960
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 8: so much money on pop music. In my mind, there

961
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:01,759
Speaker 8: was a disparity and I couldn't really make sense of

962
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 8: what that was at that time.

963
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: You know, Well, in the ten years that you were

964
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: off high, did you survive? How'd you pay the bills?

965
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 8: As a working musician? I was on the road. Everybody

966
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 8: and their father you know Joe Sam Yeah, everything, Marcus

967
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 8: Miller I played with a lot. I was in his

968
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 8: band for many years. Uh did a lot of records.

969
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,439
Speaker 8: I'm on a lot of records that some didn't even

970
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 8: come out here, just like session work. Yeah, Michelle's records.

971
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, which she's.

972
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 8: On Earth, I'm on Heaven.

973
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: I love that version of Heaven.

974
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 8: By the way, me too. It's the slowest record ive

975
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 8: ever recorded in my entire life.

976
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 5: Have you have you ever you said earlier that you

977
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,919
Speaker 5: don't categorize yourself as a soul singer or a jazz singer.

978
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 9: So, but you are were a woman of a certain

979
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 9: age when you came out a young woman.

980
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 5: Did you ever feel some type of way that I

981
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 5: feel like you just skipped the urban and went right

982
00:51:58,239 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 5: to the urban ac.

983
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, that was weird. I mean I think urban had

984
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 8: this element of hip hop that my record didn't express,

985
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 8: and I recognize right around ninety three or ninety four, like, Okay,

986
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 8: if you don't include this, you're gonna get left in

987
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 8: the vortex of the mid nineties, which is Misha Paris

988
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:19,160
Speaker 8: and Shaw, Nice, Stephanie Mills, Karen Wheeler. There were a

989
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 8: lot of women, a lot of women a RB. Yeah,

990
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 8: that just kind of kind of got lost in this vortex.

991
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,720
Speaker 1: But it's so weird now because now I think today

992
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: we're longing for R and without a hip hop now

993
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 1: without any Yeah, you know, it's interesting now.

994
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 8: I mean I don't know what is R and B

995
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 8: right now. I don't really get it in terms of

996
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:44,720
Speaker 8: what's new ish R and B. I'm down for whatever.

997
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 8: You know, people just make your music and do whatever

998
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 8: you're gonna do. But it's interesting to me. Someone suggested

999
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 8: to me that if you are like Sid from the

1000
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 8: Internet or Sizza or Childish Gambino, there is a there

1001
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 8: is a community of that rhythm and blues music that

1002
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 8: I can identify looking at it, like you may have tattoos,

1003
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,919
Speaker 8: you may have big hair, you may I mean, there's

1004
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 8: a whole entity of it. If you're looking at a

1005
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 8: person like me that's sort of considered adult contemporary or

1006
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 8: a black adult contemporary, there's like me Letusy, who else

1007
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 8: Jill Jill not really but sort of not really, I

1008
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 8: don't think so. I think Jill is in a different

1009
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,399
Speaker 8: stratosphere because she's also like a movie star I'm talking

1010
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 8: about in terms of what's on the radio playing. She

1011
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,880
Speaker 8: plays on different types of stations. If you are a

1012
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 8: black female and you didn't get in that entry point

1013
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,239
Speaker 8: with hip hop and you're not under thirty, there is

1014
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 8: a chasm which is like R and B and dusties.

1015
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 1: You know, so do you feel nice?

1016
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 8: Absolutely?

1017
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, well not do you feel a certain way, But obviously,

1018
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, it has to be weird for you to

1019
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: see maybe a figure like Adele being able to pull

1020
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 1: these rabbits out of the hat, not doing R and

1021
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:18,919
Speaker 1: B whatever, But you know, like her voices, her voice

1022
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: is celebrated for that sort of thing.

1023
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 8: But it's interesting. It's has always been that way. Let's

1024
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 8: not get it twisted. It has always been that way.

1025
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 8: The only thing that killed me was who gets two

1026
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 8: chances at the Grammys? That must be nice to be

1027
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 8: afforded though.

1028
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: Because wow, George Michael tribute.

1029
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 8: That is something.

1030
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: If if you do not follow listen man Layla Hathaway

1031
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: is a great follow on Twitter.

1032
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 5: Follow her right now because I A, you're telling the tram.

1033
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 1: I think it was the Grammys something she tweeted something.

1034
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: She was like, why is fifth harmony? Yes?

1035
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 2: Singing three part harmonies? I said, And the thing is

1036
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: you can talk your ship because it's like, ain't none of.

1037
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 8: I had honest questions and you know me, so you know,

1038
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 8: for me to say fifth Harmony, four girls, three part

1039
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,439
Speaker 8: Harmony discussed that don't mean nothing to me. I don't

1040
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 8: have anything against those don't.

1041
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 1: Forgot I forgot that with them and.

1042
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 8: And and their their minions so upset words.

1043
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. Oh yeah, yeah it was a

1044
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 1: little newsworthy.

1045
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 8: It got I mean yeah, I went. It went on

1046
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 8: like a couple of little blogs, and one of my

1047
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 8: singers was like, okay, let me let you know. First

1048
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 8: there were five girls, they got rid of one girl,

1049
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 8: and I was like, oh, okay, now I get it.

1050
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: I don't.

1051
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 8: I don't know who they are at all.

1052
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 5: Any of those twitterers, the twitter thugs say that you

1053
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 5: can't sing anyway.

1054
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 8: Yes, I get a lot. I get a lot of

1055
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 8: I mean, who is you?

1056
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's more like, oh my god, hear you anyway?

1057
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 8: You know, people really try to make me feel like,

1058
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 8: ooh you shady. Like normally I'm telling the truth. You know,

1059
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,479
Speaker 8: nobody gets two chances on the Grammys. That's the truth.

1060
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 8: Adele is great. I don't have anything against her. She's

1061
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 8: doing her music and God bless her, But who the

1062
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 8: fuck is two chances on Network TV? Thought this over,

1063
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 8: y'all just start over, and and you needed two chances

1064
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 8: last year too, you.

1065
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: Got four chances. Yeah, wait, explain this to me.

1066
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: So when the first year she did, she did Hello,

1067
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 2: she turned to Hello, and like she boy, her voice cracked.

1068
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Well, no, she was like in the wrong.

1069
00:56:46,320 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 6: Hello here he recorded Hello. I'm serious, we're.

1070
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 1: Coming to it, man, you know what, Wait a minute,

1071
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: this is where I was, okay, being at the Grammys

1072
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: and being backstage. I didn't watch it. What happened?

1073
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:16,160
Speaker 2: She she started Hello and was just in the completely

1074
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: wrong key, and so then she like apologized for it, right,

1075
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: She was like.

1076
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 8: I don't know what happened.

1077
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: It was very bad. I couldn't hear you know whatever.

1078
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,640
Speaker 1: So she stopped it on National TV.

1079
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 8: No, No, that was the first year.

1080
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: That was the first year singing it, and it was bad.

1081
00:57:30,440 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: Second second year, it was.

1082
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 2: The George Mike Coop tribute and they had her doing

1083
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,000
Speaker 2: fast Low Yeah, which is like the I'm like, why

1084
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 2: are y'all doing that?

1085
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: And it was the one she wanted to do.

1086
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 8: But in addition to that, they're playing the Tonic yeah,

1087
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 8: here's your key.

1088
00:57:44,920 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're playing it, and they were doing it in

1089
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: a different arrangement.

1090
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was.

1091
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: It was a slow dirge like arrangement.

1092
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 6: It was.

1093
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: It was a bad idea. It was a bad idea

1094
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: from the jump. It was.

1095
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 8: It was all bad. And she just up And good

1096
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 8: for her for saying, no, fuck this, I'm gonna do

1097
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 8: this right, I'm starting over, start over. But God bless America.

1098
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 8: Did you get that.

1099
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: It's British? Yeah, you know, because Frank Ocean did not

1100
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: get not another opportunity. I understand. I don't think that's

1101
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 1: got enough invitations you got.

1102
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,640
Speaker 8: If he has said let me start over, you think

1103
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 8: that'll let him.

1104
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: My quick time said, you got thirty more quick saying

1105
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: that out.

1106
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 8: I get tired of uh singers that are not great.

1107
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 8: That's just my call it.

1108
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 1: What you want.

1109
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 8: I just get tired of ship.

1110
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 9: Who's Who's great anymore?

1111
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 8: Like I can only take so much whisper, Yes, the

1112
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 8: whisper singing is annoying.

1113
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 1: And children, yes, the daughters of they are the daughters

1114
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: of Aliah.

1115
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, thank God for Jasmine. I'm just that's all I

1116
00:58:58,400 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 9: can think.

1117
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 8: And you don't have to be all with the with

1118
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 8: the raw rod but singing key. You know, if there

1119
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 8: are four of you, just somebody step out and sing

1120
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 8: another note.

1121
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 5: It's ask all the question as singers, I really don't

1122
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,959
Speaker 5: know and this is not a shapeful question.

1123
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 9: But you're right, it isn't.

1124
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:21,000
Speaker 5: But people like sid and her and uh Sizza what

1125
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 5: we called them singers like I.

1126
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 1: Think sid Well personally.

1127
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: For me, Sid has improved a lot, absolutely and like

1128
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: her new record if you listen to way she's singing now,

1129
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 2: to me, she sings with a lot more confidence like.

1130
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,520
Speaker 8: I would put her like with with Michael Frank. She's

1131
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 8: like the type of singer that sings her material. Really,

1132
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 8: you don't want her covering yo, you don't want her

1133
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 8: covering long walk by jokes. You know what I mean?

1134
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 1: You guys can't. You're listening to this podcast. But the

1135
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: look on Bill's face right now is like no, no, no, no, no,

1136
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: not just using I know, yeah, I know what you're

1137
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 1: It's not in the same sentence. It's kind of offensive

1138
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: to me. It's not like just a virtual soul like

1139
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,920
Speaker 1: Bill now for said because of j Davy never getting

1140
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: their props, So.

1141
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 9: A long list, Bill, It's a long list that got

1142
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 9: on the J day.

1143
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:18,760
Speaker 8: I like her vibe, I like I like when she

1144
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 8: sings what she's written. I like her, you know what

1145
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:21,360
Speaker 8: I mean.

1146
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: I love ye I'm sure she's nice, but yeah, I

1147
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: was always.

1148
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 8: Her Sisa is a singer. I think it's an interesting

1149
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 8: time now because a lot of people really exemplify their time,

1150
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 8: and that is an art in itself. If you're going

1151
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 8: to write, you know, if your whole, if your whole

1152
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 8: stease is like the accent and the thing and the

1153
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 8: repetitive notes, like to me, it's math and science. But

1154
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 8: she understands what that is. This is She's Yeah, she's

1155
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 8: of her time. So yeah, I would definitely I like

1156
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 8: her a lot of the stuff on her record.

1157
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: So how can you because I feel like you judge singers,

1158
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: I mean the way that I would judge beat makers,

1159
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: like I know, based on certain drum patches or certain

1160
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,959
Speaker 1: small just small things that the maybe light YEA would

1161
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: totally get, Like, Okay, I don't see what makes this

1162
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 1: guy is so great that you think it's you know,

1163
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 1: that sort of thing. So are you one of those?

1164
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: I can tell in eight seconds if you can sing?

1165
01:01:34,160 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 8: Yes, I can tell looking at you, if you could say.

1166
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:40,120
Speaker 9: Oh, I want to know how conversation.

1167
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,960
Speaker 1: Now you say you look at somebody, how can you.

1168
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 8: Tell what can generally glean from a person what their

1169
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 8: voice sounds like looking at them. Like if I walk

1170
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 8: into a room and look at everybody and take it

1171
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 8: in and then one of them calls me on the phone,

1172
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 8: I can tell which one of them call me on

1173
01:01:58,680 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 8: the phone.

1174
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that is scary.

1175
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 8: It just seems super natural to me though, you know

1176
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 8: what I mean. It's not like a get it's the thing.

1177
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 8: It's just it's just that's the way my ear is.

1178
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: So what about old girl who was on Britain Scott

1179
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 1: Talent whatever, like everyone losing oil? Yeah, like so the

1180
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: white woman from she looked crazy? And then like can't

1181
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 1: I can't call.

1182
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 8: It normally I can't call it, but you know I

1183
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 8: would imagine I can't say because I've seen.

1184
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: Her, And so just based on looking at us, you

1185
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,240
Speaker 1: could tell I.

1186
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 8: Have an idea of what your voices sound like. It

1187
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 8: may be wrong, but I definitely associate you with a sound.

1188
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 5: That was not me.

1189
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: I actually looked at you though, I know.

1190
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 5: That's why I said, But guys didn't shocked and say

1191
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 5: that she does something similar to this, and then she

1192
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 5: tests people in their face.

1193
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 9: That's I was wondering. I was like, have you ever

1194
01:02:58,360 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 9: had a conversation?

1195
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: Said that she could just look at someone and see

1196
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: if you can sing or not.

1197
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, was more like she if someone tells her that

1198
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 2: they're a singer, she like sing sing right now, like

1199
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 2: that's are you?

1200
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like it's that's a cool thing, Like.

1201
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 8: That's like that you could go down in flames like that.

1202
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 8: I never want to make anybody feel bad about anything.

1203
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,160
Speaker 1: Do people come up to you and like, yes, can

1204
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:22,760
Speaker 1: I sing for you?

1205
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 8: Or or this happens all the time. I sound just

1206
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 8: like your father, And I'm like, you probably don't.

1207
01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 1: How do you think that one?

1208
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 6: Why that one?

1209
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 2: I love that song, so I'm thinking so I'm trying

1210
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 2: to remember it. So you're it was ten records? No,

1211
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 2: you say it was ten years between the album and the.

1212
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 8: Third and the third album. In that time, I made

1213
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 8: a record with Joe sample. Yeah, and that's the duet's record.

1214
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,880
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, how did how did that come about? Hey, y'all,

1215
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:11,040
Speaker 2: how did y'all first have.

1216
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 8: Been playing with him since like ninety two or three

1217
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 8: with Marcus Miller? Okay, and we were in Japan. We

1218
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 8: were at the Blue Note and we were having dinner

1219
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,880
Speaker 8: one night and I said, Joe, we should make a record.

1220
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 8: He said, girl, we should, Let's do it when we

1221
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,000
Speaker 8: get home. Do you any of y'all know Joe Sample? Yes,

1222
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 8: I mean he was like one of the funniest realist

1223
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 8: people I have ever met in my entire life. And

1224
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 8: we got back and we made that record. I went

1225
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 8: in and sang with them with the band for like

1226
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 8: the first day so that they could get everything done.

1227
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 8: And I realized every time Joe would change the time

1228
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 8: or something would happen, like I was getting tired. So

1229
01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 8: I said, let me just if you pick your tempos,

1230
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 8: I'll just sing everything and you have it to play too.

1231
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 8: And then I went in on the following Monday with

1232
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 8: Al Schmidt and just sang the record down. So the

1233
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 8: whole record is all just one singing down.

1234
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: Doesn't that damage your voice though? After a while, which

1235
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:09,240
Speaker 1: you mean you're saying that you just did the entire

1236
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 1: record of one setting.

1237
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, it's like singing five songs. It's like a

1238
01:05:12,600 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 8: half a showy.

1239
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:18,919
Speaker 1: You mentioned those Japan Blue Note runs. I gotta ask,

1240
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: was it two or three shows a day. Two?

1241
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,240
Speaker 8: Who does three shows a day?

1242
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: Neil fucking Diamond, I'm sorry it wasn't cute.

1243
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 8: Three shows a day is a whole lot. I've only

1244
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:35,600
Speaker 8: done that once.

1245
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,160
Speaker 1: Well, I was going to say that doing doing that

1246
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: Japan run like getting your sleep and hard adjusting. Always

1247
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: that after that first show.

1248
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 8: And that in between they.

1249
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 1: Have the food for you that you got the items

1250
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 1: on top of.

1251
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 8: Everyone's sleeping on those couches over there. Yeah, yes, that's

1252
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 8: what they wake you up to do the second show.

1253
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 8: It's very hard.

1254
01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:58,360
Speaker 1: Yo.

1255
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 8: Do you feel like when you're at the Blue Note

1256
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 8: or when you're in Japan? When I feel like I'm

1257
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 8: in Japan, the entire country feels like a recording studio

1258
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 8: to me.

1259
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 1: It's tight. Sound is tight.

1260
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 8: It's literally like the sound in the streets is kind

1261
01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 8: of dead to me. So when I'm in a space,

1262
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:14,560
Speaker 8: I feel like I'm in a recording studio.

1263
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: It's true.

1264
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 8: Yes, with the Babbling Brook playing Yes, Yes Yes.

1265
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 5: Can I ask you about the Joe Sample album because

1266
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 5: it's funny It was one of my favorites. But I

1267
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,040
Speaker 5: wanted to ask you about the photo that you guys

1268
01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 5: have on the cover because it always it's I know,

1269
01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,880
Speaker 5: it's very endaring and sweet, but I figured, like, what

1270
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 5: did y'all, How did y'all decide that this is what

1271
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:35,880
Speaker 5: we're gonna do?

1272
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 8: This is exactly the cover. The man said, whispering is here,

1273
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 8: like you're telling him something? And I said, all right, Joe,

1274
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 8: I'm telling you something. And he said, don't stick your

1275
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:52,560
Speaker 8: tongue in mine. And that is exactly the photo that's

1276
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 8: on that record. He was a crazy person, one of

1277
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 8: the greatest storytelling I've ever met. I would sit at

1278
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,919
Speaker 8: his knee and just listen to him talk. Marcus Miller

1279
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 8: is the same way. But Joe used to tell these

1280
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 8: stories about, you know, being in the Fifth Ward, being

1281
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 8: stopped by police on the way to a gig and

1282
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 8: everybody being made to get out on the street and

1283
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 8: play their instruments, and because he played the piano, they

1284
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 8: would make him dance.

1285
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: That's Houston. He's from Houston. Okay.

1286
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 9: Yeah, who knew Joe sample was from the Fifth War?

1287
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't know.

1288
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 6: I had no idea.

1289
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: I always just associated him with La No, Wow, that's dope.

1290
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,880
Speaker 9: Did you have any issues in your evolution of your look?

1291
01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 7: Oh?

1292
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 9: Yeah, in the beginning, you know, the hair was different.

1293
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 8: The hair was different. It was a we delicious time

1294
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 8: in the nineties. Everybody had to weave, and I wanted locks,

1295
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 8: and everybody said, you can't have locks because that's not

1296
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 8: it's not what they do. What that was a big deal?

1297
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: When?

1298
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 9: Was that like when you first.

1299
01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 1: Out the sky? Though?

1300
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I literally for that record, I look

1301
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 8: like that for about a half an hour hour and

1302
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 8: then went inacted my regular ship. She cleans up. Well,

1303
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 8: I don't know. I think I think it's at certain

1304
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 8: points there was a lot of excuse me, confusion about

1305
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 8: what to do with me, Like this girl is, first

1306
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:23,640
Speaker 8: of all, she reads books and she likes jazz, and

1307
01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 8: I would get in these conversations where I'm going on

1308
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,640
Speaker 8: I'm going on BT to talk to Donny Simpson and

1309
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 8: he's going to ask you who you like. Now we

1310
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 8: know that you like train and Wayne and you like

1311
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 8: you know, Bud Powell. You can't say that, thank you, Yeah, please.

1312
01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 8: You got to say Luther Vandross, you got to say

1313
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 8: Joe to See, you got to say.

1314
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,680
Speaker 1: You know, I had a whole little yea, the not

1315
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,240
Speaker 1: the Trainers, the little media. Yeah.

1316
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's how long I've been in this business. No, yes, yes,

1317
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 8: oh man, Yeah, they coach you. They don't want you

1318
01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 8: to you know, they don't want you to look like

1319
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 8: you know too much.

1320
01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 1: So do you feel that when you got to outrun

1321
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: this guy, that was the moment where you actually took

1322
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: control of in a way.

1323
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 8: Yeah. I had been signed to a label called Mojazz.

1324
01:09:13,400 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Motown Wayman, that label.

1325
01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, and yeah we made a whole record and then

1326
01:09:21,760 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 8: the label just folded and I was like shit, no jazz.

1327
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:28,280
Speaker 5: Uh.

1328
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 8: And then I took some of that stuff and moved

1329
01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 8: into the next record, which was Outrun the Sky. And

1330
01:09:33,720 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 8: I felt like at that point, like, oh, okay, I'm

1331
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 8: starting to marry the things that I want to do,

1332
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 8: Because in the nineties I would listen to like Merry

1333
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 8: Records and Faith Records, and I would think, how come

1334
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 8: to people don't bring me those types of records? How

1335
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 8: come people don't bring me the beats? How come I

1336
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 8: want to dance? I like, I played video games, and

1337
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 8: I ride a skateboard, and I got a truck with

1338
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 8: a subway for the lights up pink. Why don't I

1339
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 8: get these Why don't I get this really interaction from people?

1340
01:09:59,600 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1341
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:00,600
Speaker 9: Temporary?

1342
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, because because people had a perception I've been telling

1343
01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 8: you forever we got to make a country record. He

1344
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 8: was traumatizedzed. So the biggest, the biggest ache for me

1345
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 8: in this industry is kind of like, oh my god,

1346
01:10:16,560 --> 01:10:19,280
Speaker 8: I love you, I really want to work with you,

1347
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:22,560
Speaker 8: and then nothing, nothing, Who is that?

1348
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 9: In your mind?

1349
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 1: Everybody?

1350
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:31,560
Speaker 8: Everyone? I can everyone, almost everyone, because.

1351
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 5: In my mind I just know that you know what

1352
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 5: she's speaking about specifically, not that she was talking about you,

1353
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 5: because in my mind, I'm like, is she talking about

1354
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 5: for real?

1355
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: No?

1356
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 8: No, because I got to work with for real? We're

1357
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,439
Speaker 8: still supposed to make a record, you know. And And

1358
01:10:46,520 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 8: the first cat that actually said I really want to

1359
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:50,800
Speaker 8: work with you and really did it was Mike City.

1360
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,600
Speaker 8: Mike City came to a show and was in the

1361
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 8: back of the room like sing I'm coming back. He

1362
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 8: was heckling me. He said, I want to.

1363
01:10:57,800 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: Get you in the club.

1364
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I want to get you on the radio. I

1365
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 8: want to do this for you. And we started writing together.

1366
01:11:04,439 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 8: So he's one of those cats that showed up. But

1367
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,280
Speaker 8: I mean the actual love that I get from people.

1368
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 8: People say, do you feel like you're underrated? And I

1369
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:17,320
Speaker 8: feel like, no, I'm super highly fucking rated.

1370
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm highly would you just say underappreciated them.

1371
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 8: Under underheard, underserved, I'm super appreciated.

1372
01:11:27,160 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 5: Like yeah, black thought of I'm like a secret and

1373
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,360
Speaker 5: a lot of you know, right like the singer's favorite, singer.

1374
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:49,280
Speaker 10: Favorite Sea, the jazz singer's favorite, over the joy.

1375
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:54,679
Speaker 1: So like with the new record with oh well, before

1376
01:11:54,680 --> 01:11:57,320
Speaker 1: we get to the new record ahead, I wanted to

1377
01:11:57,360 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 1: ask you about the Darters of Soul to what was

1378
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 1: that experience?

1379
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 3: Like?

1380
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 8: It was cool? Uh, Sandra sat Victor put that together.

1381
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 8: Who used to be the lead of the family stand

1382
01:12:07,200 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 8: absolutely it was me? Uh and dear con Nina Simone's daughter. Yes,

1383
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 8: I want to call her Lisa, Yeah, Joyce Kennedy, Nonah Hendricks,

1384
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 8: Joyce do changes yes she I mean it was killer

1385
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 8: we did. It was a really short run, but we

1386
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 8: were in Europe, so we were really it was a

1387
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:32,840
Speaker 8: really beautiful time. We tried to get it booted back up,

1388
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,040
Speaker 8: and it's so hard to sell anything of quality in

1389
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 8: the United States. That is, you know, it's a hard sell.

1390
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 8: But that was a really good time for me because

1391
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 8: I wasn't on the road a lot. We would go

1392
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 8: do like the Poory Jazz festival and they would come

1393
01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:50,680
Speaker 8: take our picture and put it in a museum. You know,

1394
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 8: it was a really good time and playing with those

1395
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:54,639
Speaker 8: people was really great.

1396
01:12:55,080 --> 01:13:00,120
Speaker 1: Do you okay, do you have do you have have

1397
01:13:00,200 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: a tribe? Or are you this lone oasis?

1398
01:13:04,080 --> 01:13:06,680
Speaker 8: I'm a lone wolf, but.

1399
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:10,200
Speaker 1: Because I feel that the only the only true way

1400
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:18,120
Speaker 1: to sell product is either through the controversial means of

1401
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:22,360
Speaker 1: which you know, the public wants blood and it's thirsty

1402
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: for you know, curious about whatever, a backstory or kind

1403
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,679
Speaker 1: of a tribe association. Yeah, I mean if you take

1404
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 1: Kendrick's current situation, I mean time, nine times out of ten,

1405
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:42,719
Speaker 1: if you see a tde associated you know, act or whatever,

1406
01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: you'll at least peep it for three seconds on the internet.

1407
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 8: You get get what that association is.

1408
01:13:48,439 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 1: Right? So is it hard to start a community of

1409
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: of people to gather eight or nine of you, especially

1410
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,800
Speaker 1: when you know I would I'm not saying that it

1411
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 1: would be intimidating, but I think that what you bring

1412
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: to the table, And I'm not I don't even mean

1413
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 1: like your lineage, but you know there's in my mind

1414
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 1: it's just like no bullshitting And I almost feel not unworthy.

1415
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: But I know a bullshit you say no, no, no,

1416
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:34,560
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that a lot of times, a

1417
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 1: lot of my Eureka arrival moments comes at the from

1418
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: a place where a lot of mistakes have to be

1419
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 1: made before I'm like, ah, this is what I'm bringing

1420
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: to the table where I just feel like, you know,

1421
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,840
Speaker 1: you could start saying Mary had a little lamb right

1422
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: now and this shit would be spot on bullseye. You

1423
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:56,560
Speaker 1: know what.

1424
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,400
Speaker 8: I feel like I have a tribe. It's interesting because

1425
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,560
Speaker 8: what people perceive of me as kind of like this

1426
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:07,120
Speaker 8: jazz urban adult contemporary type singer. That is, that is

1427
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,640
Speaker 8: a part of who I am. But my tribe is

1428
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 8: like Robert Glasper like I'm on the Kendrick to Pimp

1429
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,799
Speaker 8: a Butterfly, Like they sample one of my entire songs

1430
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:20,559
Speaker 8: for that record. I did a session three weeks ago

1431
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 8: with Quick, I did a session with Battlecat and Exhibit

1432
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 8: two weeks ago. I work with Terris Martin. I find

1433
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 8: that I have this initiative called real music rebels. I'm

1434
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 8: generally kind of the only female and a collective. If

1435
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 8: I find myself in a collective, there are other women

1436
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:41,320
Speaker 8: like me, but I find that if you are a

1437
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,519
Speaker 8: musician that has a sort of education in that field,

1438
01:15:46,080 --> 01:15:48,760
Speaker 8: and you you play jazz and you play pop and

1439
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 8: you play like glasspur or somebody I completely relate to.

1440
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 8: You know, I feel like I can go true as well.

1441
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 8: He's crazier than I am. But I mean, either one

1442
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 8: of us could go to any set on any bandstand

1443
01:16:04,360 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 8: and blend in or stick out. You know, I'm just

1444
01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 8: prepared as a musician to ex experience like what that means,

1445
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 8: like to come on and play with you guys. It's

1446
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:17,760
Speaker 8: not even fair because you know it's bumpers and that's

1447
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:19,760
Speaker 8: kind of you know that take advantage of it in

1448
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,600
Speaker 8: the room when we rehearse, like, okay, let me just

1449
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 8: breathe it in. I'm super into music. I'm gonna I'm

1450
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:27,759
Speaker 8: gonna make a record with Nancy Wilson and a record

1451
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 8: with Kendrick Lamar.

1452
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: No.

1453
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:30,880
Speaker 8: I already made a record with Nancy Wilson. I'm saying

1454
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 8: last year, what was that like, Yes, she was not there,

1455
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,599
Speaker 8: but the record is killer. It's Terry Lane Carrington's record,

1456
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:42,040
Speaker 8: which is called I can't bring it to my mind

1457
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 8: right now. I'm saying, over the course of a year.

1458
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 8: For me, that's making a record with Nancy and with

1459
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 8: Kendrick and with Quick and Snoop, and then with Vince

1460
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 8: Mendoza and then maybe with Anita Baker and then you know,

1461
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 8: I'm all over the place in terms of what I

1462
01:16:58,479 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 8: can do.

1463
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: What is his name? See Wilson project coming up?

1464
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,280
Speaker 8: It's not a project, it's it's Terry Lynn Carrington's record.

1465
01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:10,120
Speaker 8: Are you looking it up? Rummer? Yes, back from Yeah,

1466
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 8: she's a she's a producer.

1467
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:13,639
Speaker 9: She's bigger than that now. But I'm just giving from yeah.

1468
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:15,920
Speaker 1: But she she that was like saying Michael Jordan, the

1469
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: actor from uh yeah, Hey.

1470
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 9: Guys, it's all right, what Civilians.

1471
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 8: She made a record that featured me and Lettusy and

1472
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:30,920
Speaker 8: and Natalie Cole and sha Ka Khan and Liz Wright

1473
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 8: and it's a great record. And Nancy Wilson was on

1474
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 8: that record, and I crafted some padding around her vocal,

1475
01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 8: which is for met us everything. I love Nancy Wilson, you.

1476
01:17:40,520 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 1: Know, aside Nancy Wilson. Wilson's story. So it's us on

1477
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: tour with Lauren Hill back in ninety nine and Lauren

1478
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 1: Hill's like towards the end of the end of the set.

1479
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: It's like a big ass moss pit right in front

1480
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:59,759
Speaker 1: of the stage, and she's doing the encore like everything

1481
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: is everything, and then mid verse she said stop the song.

1482
01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 1: Stop the song stop, stop stop stop. Got hang on.

1483
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: She's like she looks in the mospit. She's like Nancy.

1484
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:14,960
Speaker 8: Wilson in the marsh pit.

1485
01:18:15,120 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 1: Why are you in the moshpit? She was like she

1486
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: was just in the middle. Like it was just like

1487
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 1: some smells like teen spiritshit like Nancy Wilson was in

1488
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,280
Speaker 1: the middle of She's another great storyteller.

1489
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,720
Speaker 5: Oh man, Yeah, I feel like we just haven't seen

1490
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 5: her a lot lately. She doesn't go out attle worried.

1491
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 8: Last time I saw her, she told me, she said,

1492
01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,120
Speaker 8: I'm not going to be doing this much longer.

1493
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 6: Oh wow.

1494
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 8: She's just she's she's she's comfortable and she's happy and

1495
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 8: she's with her family and she's good. She just ain't

1496
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 8: making records right now. And and Terry recorded her for

1497
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 8: that record, and I wanted to just add some color

1498
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:55,120
Speaker 8: for her, you know, kind of breathing. You know, it's cool.

1499
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh that what's up? I always wanted to ask you

1500
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 1: about out your record. The word it all begins record

1501
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:06,840
Speaker 1: with Ernie g What's what was that like? Because I

1502
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,640
Speaker 1: love that song, like I love that song. You know,

1503
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:10,679
Speaker 1: I love the album, but I love.

1504
01:19:10,560 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 8: That song too. Bobby Sparks brought me that song, ah okay,

1505
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 8: and the moment I heard it, I was like, oh

1506
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,240
Speaker 8: my god, that that that whole baseline, the movement of

1507
01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:23,760
Speaker 8: that record. Sometimes I put it on it makes me

1508
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 8: very happy. I still have not met him.

1509
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:30,600
Speaker 1: Oh so you y'all, Wow, y'all for in exchange it?

1510
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 1: Damn he Si.

1511
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,639
Speaker 8: He gave Bobby that record and said get this record

1512
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,680
Speaker 8: to her, and then I wrote the lyric and the

1513
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,320
Speaker 8: melody and everything and recorded it.

1514
01:19:39,560 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: Oh okay. So in the studio, who's your who's your

1515
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 1: right here? So to speak?

1516
01:19:44,200 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 2: Like you clearly, if you're with an engineer, you have

1517
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,760
Speaker 2: someone that's like, okay, maybe you can do that again better,

1518
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 2: or like who gives you feedback during your sessions?

1519
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:55,519
Speaker 8: Whomember I'm working with, you know, I keep it like

1520
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 8: a tight circle. I ultimately am harder on myself than

1521
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,880
Speaker 8: anyone will let a lot of times, if I'm working

1522
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 8: on my own stuff, it's hard because when I go

1523
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 8: to work with people, which happens a lot, I'll sing

1524
01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 8: it once and they won't let me. They won't let

1525
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,799
Speaker 8: me go again, and I'm like, you don't discover anything

1526
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:17,400
Speaker 8: like that, you know. I appreciate the fact that it's

1527
01:20:17,479 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 8: whatever is on the top of your head, you know,

1528
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 8: And it's the spontaneity of it. And it's exciting for

1529
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 8: me to go into a session and not know what's

1530
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:28,559
Speaker 8: going to happen. And that's what you got. But there

1531
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:30,439
Speaker 8: are things listening back. I wish I had taken a

1532
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 8: little more time with so for me, in my sessions,

1533
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 8: everybody's allowed to talk. It's all super democratic. Ultimately, I

1534
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 8: am gonna be like, Okay, that wasn't that's that was terrible?

1535
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 1: What was that? And what is it that you're what

1536
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: you're listening for?

1537
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 6: Like what it?

1538
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to imagine what does a terrible Leyla

1539
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:49,680
Speaker 1: Hathaway take sound like, Oh, it.

1540
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,760
Speaker 8: Could be cracky, it could be just clams floating out.

1541
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 8: It could be the color is wrong for me. It's

1542
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 8: about color a lot of times, you know, or that

1543
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 8: didn't taste right happen or you know, let me just

1544
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 8: make that prettier, or it's any number of things.

1545
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 9: Do you have like physical rituals and no warm ups. No,

1546
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 9: not even the fun.

1547
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 1: Wait you don't do is seth riggs warm up.

1548
01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,439
Speaker 8: Things sometimes I do with my singers, like if they're

1549
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 8: doing it, I'll do it with them. Yeah, but not really.

1550
01:21:20,520 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 1: It's not necessary to warm up your voice. No, I

1551
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 1: think it is, But I talk all day, so yeah,

1552
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,639
Speaker 1: I was going to say, I get the feeling. There's

1553
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: there's two types of singers, I know, like the the

1554
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 1: rigorous exercise like the quote professional singers that do all that,

1555
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: and then there's the singers that talk and sing twenty

1556
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 1: four to seven to themselves. Are you one of these

1557
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: in public? And I don't mean like in public like

1558
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: in a Fame Way breakout and song now, but like

1559
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,799
Speaker 1: when you're home alone, are you talking to yourself?

1560
01:21:58,880 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 5: Are you?

1561
01:21:59,560 --> 01:21:59,600
Speaker 1: No?

1562
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 9: Not really, not out loud.

1563
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 8: My voice is always in some sort of state of

1564
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:09,240
Speaker 8: warmth because of the quality of my voice. So I

1565
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 8: recognize that even when it's cold, like right now, it's cold,

1566
01:22:14,240 --> 01:22:17,519
Speaker 8: and if I sang it would sound okay on the

1567
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 8: okay scale, it would not sound okay.

1568
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:21,880
Speaker 1: To me where we are right now it's cold to you,

1569
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 1: like my voice would be cold.

1570
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, because I haven't sang and I'm sitting here

1571
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 8: on a mic and it doesn't sound necessarily. My speaking

1572
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 8: voice to me is super annoying. It's like a weird

1573
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 8: mirror that is like you're looking at really close.

1574
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: Really yeah, you have a very saltry speaking very yeah,

1575
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: I know, but I wonder here's the thing. I was like,

1576
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if Layla's trying to nerd up her. No,

1577
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:56,280
Speaker 1: this is me a voice.

1578
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 8: This is super mean.

1579
01:22:57,479 --> 01:23:02,080
Speaker 1: But the line between a point extra voice and it's crazy,

1580
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,320
Speaker 1: a very I imagine your your phone, your nighttime phone

1581
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: voice is on some next ship.

1582
01:23:09,240 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 8: It's regular. My mourning phone voice is definitely Susan Plashett

1583
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 8: all day, the references, all day, Bob. It's very low.

1584
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 8: My voice is just really low by nature. And I

1585
01:23:24,560 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 8: practiced kind of talking up higher. I got intimidated at

1586
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 8: some point, like girls don't talk like that, and I

1587
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 8: started sort of trying to lift it up and make

1588
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 8: it bubblier and more.

1589
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:36,479
Speaker 1: You know, I think that you're on the Kathleen Turner

1590
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 1: very soldier. M we wait, speaking of where it all begins, Steve,

1591
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 1: you should note that she worked with Phil Ramone.

1592
01:23:52,080 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 8: Could you what was He's awesome? I loved him so much.

1593
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 6: Produce something for you.

1594
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 8: Well, we did this thing when we worked on that record,

1595
01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 8: We had a live We had a chance to go

1596
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 8: into Capitol Live and record in the A room and

1597
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,320
Speaker 8: it was going to be Auschmidt and Phil Ramon. So

1598
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 8: I got to record four of my records with them

1599
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,560
Speaker 8: that day. And it was awesome because basically he just

1600
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 8: walked around and smiled and that's magnanimous and made jokes

1601
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:19,720
Speaker 8: and he's really cool.

1602
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, Oh no, I just wanted to talk

1603
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 1: to you about your new record, honestly, and the hate.

1604
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 1: Well we talked, you know, we talked.

1605
01:24:31,200 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 2: This is offline, but how I guess a lot of

1606
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,800
Speaker 2: your traditional R and B fans are like.

1607
01:24:37,479 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: They mad mad as hell.

1608
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 8: They mad because the saxophone on the record and the

1609
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 8: record I cussed on the record. I cussed on Outrun

1610
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 8: the Sky too, But they missed that record. You know,

1611
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 8: people really have come to know that they can come

1612
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 8: and just suckle on my bosom and I will rock

1613
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 8: them to sleep and remind them of their mother.

1614
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:02,600
Speaker 10: You know.

1615
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 8: Michelle told me, she said you are my sexy Mehelia,

1616
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 8: Oh my god, And I said, that is the worst

1617
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 8: up to But I get it. I get it. I

1618
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:14,920
Speaker 8: get that there is something in me that for people

1619
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:20,599
Speaker 8: is provocative, but it's also genetic, like a genetic, soulful

1620
01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,160
Speaker 8: memory of their mother. I understand that.

1621
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:29,679
Speaker 1: Wait, because I know it's coming. I want to suckle.

1622
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I do, it's coming. I just I'm sorry

1623
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:40,600
Speaker 1: pressed the tugar before you even got to say it.

1624
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 1: Hilarious on a circle. But I really like the new record.

1625
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 1: I think it's dope.

1626
01:25:54,720 --> 01:25:57,519
Speaker 2: I like that, and I mean we I texted you

1627
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,760
Speaker 2: all the ship before, but no, I like that you

1628
01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 2: that you're not You play a lot younger than you are.

1629
01:26:06,960 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 2: I think you know what I'm saying. What I mean

1630
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 2: by that is just like I think a lot of

1631
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,560
Speaker 2: times it's three instead of twenty eight. Yeah, exactly, And

1632
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 2: I mean right, and I mean a lot of times

1633
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 2: people in the ac or urban contemporary they kind of

1634
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 2: aged themselves too early, you know what I'm saying. It's

1635
01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:23,880
Speaker 2: just like, dude, you, I look at somebody like Charlie

1636
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 2: Wilson that can sing over whatever and be timeless, you

1637
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:27,599
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

1638
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: And so the thing I do like about your record

1639
01:26:30,160 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: is that you're doing stuff that will be considered young.

1640
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,680
Speaker 2: But you have the flexibility to do it, and the

1641
01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,600
Speaker 2: shit is dope and like there's only nine songs like

1642
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 2: this is yeah.

1643
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,040
Speaker 8: I mean honestly, I started it as an EP and

1644
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:43,640
Speaker 8: then I thought, oh, we could keep going, and then

1645
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 8: we just kept going. But the record to me feels

1646
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,799
Speaker 8: like my record's in the nineties, you know what obvious

1647
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 8: and you gotta going on and the Chucky Records and

1648
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 8: the Keith Crouch records. I love those records. So for me,

1649
01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:59,640
Speaker 8: it was about presenting something that was a little bit different, you.

1650
01:26:59,680 --> 01:27:01,760
Speaker 1: Know, and talk about Tiffany because I don't really know

1651
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: if I've heard of is a.

1652
01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 8: Young woman producer, songwriter, singer. We did the whole record together.

1653
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:12,519
Speaker 8: She has records out, she got a new single out

1654
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 8: right now. And it was exciting to me to work

1655
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 8: with one person. I didn't know going into that that

1656
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:22,600
Speaker 8: would that's what I was doing, you know, I had

1657
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:26,360
Speaker 8: never done a record with just one person. I'm getting

1658
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 8: ready to start working with a cat named Phil Boudreaux.

1659
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 8: What come on, man, do you understand how excited I am?

1660
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:37,680
Speaker 1: Phil is uh.

1661
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:41,920
Speaker 2: He's one part of a group AOI, which is him

1662
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 2: and Dewan Parkerdwan Parker as a producer, keyboard player. He

1663
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:48,040
Speaker 2: used to be in Dre's camp, like back during like

1664
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,720
Speaker 2: the Lost Ones era. I think that's him on the

1665
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 2: Lost Ones. I think, but like Lost Ones and all

1666
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,320
Speaker 2: those records around that, like seven, I was like, wait

1667
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:02,519
Speaker 2: a minute, now, jay Z Lost Ones. But yeah, and

1668
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:04,960
Speaker 2: so they have a group called ao E that is

1669
01:28:05,160 --> 01:28:07,160
Speaker 2: fucking amazing and Phil also is.

1670
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 8: A producer, player, keyboard player.

1671
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:12,400
Speaker 1: And he's just fucking stupid.

1672
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:16,000
Speaker 8: Yeah that ep I listened to it. Probably it's one

1673
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 8: of them. Is my like my wake up alarm which

1674
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 8: one never know me?

1675
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god? Yeah, that's.

1676
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 9: Adding him to my pandora right now.

1677
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: It's on a well Field bow Drow. He has a

1678
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:31,560
Speaker 1: solo I'm called Ethoist Dope, but just ao E is

1679
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:33,759
Speaker 1: the uh that's hard to google.

1680
01:28:34,240 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 8: Get ready getting ready to work with him. I'm very

1681
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,360
Speaker 8: very excited about.

1682
01:28:39,200 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: I won't end on that something some.

1683
01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 8: I'm excited. I told him I wanted to record this

1684
01:28:45,960 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 8: Dion Warwick record, which one?

1685
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: Do you know?

1686
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 8: This song in between thanks you Hold Me Close in.

1687
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:56,639
Speaker 1: It's on track of the Cat.

1688
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 8: I don't know. It's a background song, insane. It is

1689
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 8: a beautiful record and I can't wait to record it.

1690
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:10,599
Speaker 8: I get excited like by songs.

1691
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, never know. It's funny you mentioned that because never

1692
01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: know me. I told him that that reminded me of

1693
01:29:15,160 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 1: a back kind of melody.

1694
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 8: It is gorgeous, isn't it. It's kind of like a

1695
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 8: Willy Walker melody as well? You know what I mean.

1696
01:29:22,040 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 8: It's kind of like that record imagination in a way.

1697
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 8: Oh my god, that's a it's a it's a killer.

1698
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 8: It's a killer record.

1699
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:34,439
Speaker 1: That's what I wouldn't pick your brain on. Just quirky ship.

1700
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:39,679
Speaker 1: I feel like you're the person that like probably knows

1701
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:41,840
Speaker 1: like Marlo Thomas is free to be you and me

1702
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:46,480
Speaker 1: like I sh.

1703
01:29:53,000 --> 01:29:57,680
Speaker 8: Wow, wow, I haven't thought about that in a long time.

1704
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean it, I never I always wanted

1705
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,439
Speaker 1: to avoid the cliche questions like where your desert island

1706
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 1: disco or whatever? But what a desert out of video games? Hmmm?

1707
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,719
Speaker 8: All right, I'm a Final Fantasy person. But the last

1708
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,640
Speaker 8: episode of Final Fantasy they fucked it up totally and

1709
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 8: turned it into like Entourage, just like it's like four

1710
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:22,200
Speaker 8: dudes in a car.

1711
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,280
Speaker 1: So I've never gotten I never got.

1712
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 8: Into the Japanese.

1713
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:29,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I have no idea.

1714
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:30,360
Speaker 9: What you guys are talking.

1715
01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 1: About the video games?

1716
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,519
Speaker 9: I do that beyond that, that's phrasing.

1717
01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 8: I was just saying, I just got to switch. That's

1718
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 8: pretty fun.

1719
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:38,680
Speaker 1: I was looking at the switch, but I was like,

1720
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 1: I mean, are you still keeping for a switch?

1721
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:44,120
Speaker 8: Right?

1722
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:44,400
Speaker 6: Hair?

1723
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh that's what I was. I was like, why are

1724
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: you carrying brother purse? Look like a clutch.

1725
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,960
Speaker 8: The remotes are so small they don't make sense.

1726
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 1: I had to buy the prop control.

1727
01:30:59,280 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 9: You take them off, you leave yours on.

1728
01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:03,519
Speaker 1: It depends, I mean, if I'm doing it handheld.

1729
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 8: Okay, So I had a handheld game like that before,

1730
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 8: which was called The Atari Links.

1731
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: Yes, I remember, I remember that. I remember that. I

1732
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: remember that.

1733
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:15,400
Speaker 9: Mm so, are you like a Mario? What's your I'm

1734
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:17,920
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, are you the Mario person? Are

1735
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:18,679
Speaker 9: you the gun?

1736
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:20,120
Speaker 8: Things?

1737
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:21,759
Speaker 1: First person shooting?

1738
01:31:21,880 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 8: I like them. I get tired of them. I really

1739
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:29,880
Speaker 8: miss like, really good full games with stories, you know

1740
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 8: what I mean.

1741
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:33,240
Speaker 1: That's why I like The Last of Us.

1742
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 8: I started it, Oh my god, I got stuck in

1743
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,200
Speaker 8: the warehouse. I never finished it.

1744
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: It's like the greatest screenplay. It was better than a

1745
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:45,479
Speaker 1: lot of movies that came out I will now too.

1746
01:31:45,560 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: It's coming. So how do I get back on the bandwagon?

1747
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:51,400
Speaker 1: Because I'm the guy that actually switched?

1748
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 8: Get a switch?

1749
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:56,679
Speaker 1: I got like a stock of this stuff, like sitting

1750
01:31:56,720 --> 01:31:59,160
Speaker 1: in the closet. Never like I'll give it away for Christmas?

1751
01:31:59,479 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: Keep it?

1752
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:04,240
Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, I mean I got like I have everything,

1753
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 8: but I still have everything?

1754
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Can I even get back on the bandwagon? Get back on?

1755
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:12,599
Speaker 8: I mean I think I got a Merlin last what Merlin?

1756
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 6: Marlin?

1757
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:17,720
Speaker 8: Remember Merlin? Yeah, my friend gave it to me for

1758
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 8: my birthday.

1759
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: You have Merlin?

1760
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 8: Where is Merlin now? He's out on the porch.

1761
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 6: I was addicted to that. I ever broken one.

1762
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:26,680
Speaker 1: You have been on my life? And what is now?

1763
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: It's a it's a game.

1764
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:27,680
Speaker 6: It was.

1765
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 8: It's a game system. It looks like a big red phone.

1766
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: Yo, Marl. Yeah, I'm seventy one. Yeah, yeah, there's that

1767
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,360
Speaker 1: separates us. YEA Merlin was like right after that, you know,

1768
01:32:41,520 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: right after the like the home the first home system

1769
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: of television.

1770
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, precedes like Simon handheld.

1771
01:32:50,240 --> 01:32:51,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's like the first.

1772
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 8: Remember that.

1773
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: I do not I've never seen this before. You have

1774
01:32:57,080 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 1: a working Maryland?

1775
01:32:58,760 --> 01:32:59,759
Speaker 6: I do it works?

1776
01:33:00,600 --> 01:33:03,040
Speaker 1: I cannot love you more than this moment?

1777
01:33:03,120 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 8: Right?

1778
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:06,040
Speaker 6: Can you have live nearby and.

1779
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 8: Over by the airport?

1780
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: Where is this?

1781
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 8: Oh man, my friend gave it to is in mint condition?

1782
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:15,559
Speaker 8: I need to finance.

1783
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 1: I need to google that person loves you to Death,

1784
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 1: because there's one on Amazon right now. Do you remember much.

1785
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 8: That's cheap?

1786
01:33:27,400 --> 01:33:30,800
Speaker 7: Do you remember the game Einstein? It was like it

1787
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 7: was sort of like it was Simon, but it was

1788
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 7: like what the Jewish parents bought that we couldn't we

1789
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 7: couldn't get. They didn't want to play for Simon, so

1790
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:41,519
Speaker 7: they got It was like a rectangle and it had

1791
01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 7: for for you know, yeah, this is not a joke.

1792
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 7: It's called Einstein. Yeah, seriously, after after Simon was like,

1793
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:52,960
Speaker 7: it was like the it's like an a person.

1794
01:33:53,920 --> 01:34:03,920
Speaker 1: Super remember that one? Everyone? Did you ever get into Doom?

1795
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:05,000
Speaker 6: You were you were doing?

1796
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:08,040
Speaker 8: I get My eyes were like, okay, I need people

1797
01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:11,200
Speaker 8: in the scenes. I want to be you know, I

1798
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 8: would play Call of Duty now, but generally I'm gonna

1799
01:34:14,520 --> 01:34:17,560
Speaker 8: get into a group and listen to everyone cussing and

1800
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,519
Speaker 8: then hide in the corner and pick people off at

1801
01:34:19,520 --> 01:34:20,680
Speaker 8: the angles. That's what I'm gonna do.

1802
01:34:21,080 --> 01:34:23,960
Speaker 1: So for me, the shooters are like, I get bored fast,

1803
01:34:25,680 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: so Final Fantasy and then what else? What else?

1804
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 8: You like Mario, Zelda, you know, Zelda, Donkey Kong, all those.

1805
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 8: But I also like love Halo, and you know, I

1806
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 8: like a lot of the original games. I didn't like Tried,

1807
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 8: I tried, It's not it passed over. It's not for us.

1808
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:47,160
Speaker 5: It's that video game they made a movie out of.

1809
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 5: I just watched it on a lot of them, seriously,

1810
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 5: like the Battle.

1811
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:54,599
Speaker 8: Ratchet and Clay.

1812
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 9: It was like a whole dragon.

1813
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:00,000
Speaker 1: Mortal Kombat. You the codes for like all the things

1814
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 1: aalties and wow wow yeah yeah yeah. A new Mortal

1815
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 1: Kombat now is like super fucking brow now, like, yeah,

1816
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:15,599
Speaker 1: super graphic. It's crazy.

1817
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean the way they snapped the heart out

1818
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 9: must be like real crazy.

1819
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 8: It's like the slow motion pan into the jaw breaking.

1820
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:26,439
Speaker 8: I love that.

1821
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:31,960
Speaker 1: Come here, so you're a gamer? What else do you do?

1822
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:37,960
Speaker 8: I have a dog, This dog I do. His name

1823
01:35:38,040 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 8: is Boston.

1824
01:35:39,040 --> 01:35:39,720
Speaker 1: What kind of dog?

1825
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 8: He's a b Shan?

1826
01:35:42,760 --> 01:35:42,960
Speaker 6: Huh?

1827
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 8: What a b Shan?

1828
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:47,720
Speaker 1: That's like a black name.

1829
01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 8: What He's like one of those dogs that was bred

1830
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,679
Speaker 8: to entertain in the circus. They have the fluffy little Afro,

1831
01:35:56,920 --> 01:35:58,720
Speaker 8: the white dog with the fluffy.

1832
01:35:58,439 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: Afro carrying Louis.

1833
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 8: No, he's big and he's he doesn't look like that.

1834
01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,120
Speaker 8: He's he's super scrappy.

1835
01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: Okay, and his name is Boston. Boston. I thought it

1836
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 1: would be sewn. That's the type.

1837
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 8: No, and you know I'm DJing now, I'm trying talk

1838
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 8: about it. Wait a minute, I'm trying. And I had

1839
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 8: I had a birthday party a couple of weeks ago,

1840
01:36:18,479 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 8: and then Battlecat showed up and I was like, I'll

1841
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:24,080
Speaker 8: just wait till you finished. I just wait.

1842
01:36:25,160 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: I'm certain that you can curate music as good as

1843
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you sing it, and you have rhythm.

1844
01:36:32,080 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 8: Thank you from your lips. I hope. What's interesting to

1845
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:39,560
Speaker 8: me is to look at two records now that in

1846
01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,560
Speaker 8: my head before, like oh if I had a if I,

1847
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 8: if I had a Janet Jackson a cappella for when

1848
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 8: I think of you, can I put it over anything?

1849
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:52,439
Speaker 8: On the Weather Report? Eight thirty records?

1850
01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:54,600
Speaker 1: How can I?

1851
01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:55,800
Speaker 8: What can I do?

1852
01:36:56,520 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: Wait? Was that you that told me the greatest set? Yeah?

1853
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:03,880
Speaker 1: Well he did a return Forever something for He played

1854
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:06,680
Speaker 1: his fourteen minute return Forever song and came out of

1855
01:37:06,760 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 1: it and it worked central heating, by cold, by heat wave,

1856
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:12,720
Speaker 1: by heat wave, and it worked, and it worked like

1857
01:37:12,840 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: it was just the most cathartic experience because it's like

1858
01:37:15,479 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 1: fourteen minutes of just fucking chaos and then all of

1859
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: a sudden and it's like, oh, yes, I love those

1860
01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 1: moments that was that it was wild. I would never

1861
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,760
Speaker 1: try that. That's a holy grail moment for a DJ.

1862
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:27,200
Speaker 3: No.

1863
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: I think the art of DJing really is and you know,

1864
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:34,760
Speaker 1: like parents sort of ask me, now, you know, it's

1865
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: like there's a generation of button pressure kids or whatever.

1866
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,479
Speaker 1: So I don't know if I should enable them and

1867
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,880
Speaker 1: just you know, create start creating a generation of DJ's

1868
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,160
Speaker 1: that I'm a hate. Once they turn to understand, it's

1869
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,280
Speaker 1: gonna happen whether you do it or not. Right. But

1870
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 1: the thing is is that I tell them that, above

1871
01:37:54,000 --> 01:37:58,960
Speaker 1: all else one, you should really love music. That's that's

1872
01:37:59,240 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: the number one impetus. Yeah, And I think that the

1873
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:05,599
Speaker 1: art of DJing really is knowing or at least having

1874
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:08,719
Speaker 1: a good guest to which for any song you play,

1875
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:13,519
Speaker 1: there should be five songs that can perfectly exactly right

1876
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 1: and you're just playing some sort of psychological you're playing

1877
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,519
Speaker 1: psychological control with your.

1878
01:38:19,439 --> 01:38:23,200
Speaker 8: Audience absolutely and telling them a story along the way,

1879
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:27,080
Speaker 8: Like when we play we have sometimes we put Rocket

1880
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 8: with You in a set, right, So at the end

1881
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:33,679
Speaker 8: of Rock with You, we played that vampom. We stay

1882
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 8: there and then I sing like fifteen Michael songs over

1883
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 8: that vamp right, you know, And it maintained a melody,

1884
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:42,120
Speaker 8: just singing it in that key.

1885
01:38:42,520 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 2: Right, you know, and yeah, you can do it, Okay, Yeah,

1886
01:38:46,479 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 2: talk to me about because we talk about it. Talking

1887
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:51,719
Speaker 2: to me about covering, Well, I guess recovering I'm coming

1888
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:56,000
Speaker 2: back on what was that like to revisit that twenty.

1889
01:38:55,880 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 8: Years I love that record and I knew going in

1890
01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 8: that it was a song I wanted to record live

1891
01:39:03,240 --> 01:39:04,960
Speaker 8: because the arrangement that we have of it is so

1892
01:39:05,080 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 8: different from the other arrangement. It was just one of

1893
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 8: those songs I knew, Like when we asked people what

1894
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 8: do you want to hear the shows, that's the number

1895
01:39:14,520 --> 01:39:16,960
Speaker 8: one record that they want to hear, Which is interesting

1896
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 8: to me because no matter how much people say, you know,

1897
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,559
Speaker 8: maybe he picked up the tempo to show a little

1898
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,920
Speaker 8: and do this and do that, people want to come

1899
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 8: and be wrung out and they love that record.

1900
01:39:26,400 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: And that was that was never officially a single right now. No,

1901
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:31,160
Speaker 1: that's amazing.

1902
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:33,760
Speaker 8: No, you know Gary Taylor wrote that song.

1903
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,879
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he wrote whispers and yes.

1904
01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 8: He also wrote the song that I demoed that he

1905
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 8: then gave to Anita Baker, which is good love you

1906
01:39:46,320 --> 01:39:59,559
Speaker 8: know that record, Thanks for that. I demoed that record

1907
01:39:59,600 --> 01:40:02,200
Speaker 8: for an to basically I did it for my record,

1908
01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,560
Speaker 8: and he's like, you know, my kids want to go

1909
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:08,160
Speaker 8: to college. So I was like, yes, let's do it.

1910
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:10,799
Speaker 8: So that was my first kind of sort of interaction

1911
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,920
Speaker 8: with her. I was so excited that when I heard

1912
01:40:13,000 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 8: her she was singing it sort of in the way

1913
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:16,360
Speaker 8: I was singing.

1914
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, you know you're do you have

1915
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 1: an original your copy of it? Wow? That can you

1916
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: cook to? Yeah?

1917
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:37,400
Speaker 9: She'll go to dish over there lately.

1918
01:40:37,640 --> 01:40:39,640
Speaker 8: You know, I will make a chicken real quick. It

1919
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,760
Speaker 8: seems simple, but yeah I would. I would just make

1920
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,280
Speaker 8: a whole chicken with your size, might make some greens,

1921
01:40:46,360 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 8: you know.

1922
01:40:48,320 --> 01:40:55,800
Speaker 1: You know. Okay, wait are you Jack and are you

1923
01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 1: find out for me?

1924
01:40:57,120 --> 01:41:02,720
Speaker 9: Oh? Yeah, that's what I was doing. Yeah, potato, I.

1925
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,679
Speaker 8: Think right now is the pot roast? Like I'm trying

1926
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 8: to really perfect.

1927
01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:07,559
Speaker 1: A pot roast. I mean my first pot roast.

1928
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,160
Speaker 8: Dude is super meat and potatoes.

1929
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 5: Dude.

1930
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:10,320
Speaker 8: He is from Nebraska, so.

1931
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,719
Speaker 1: Wow to raise Wait you said you made a pot roast.

1932
01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:21,600
Speaker 1: So all those posts that was you cooking? Oh? I

1933
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 1: thought you were watching people cook cook me my bad. Okay,

1934
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: it's fun now that the pot rolls. The crock pot

1935
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:29,680
Speaker 1: is also a life saving to.

1936
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:32,040
Speaker 8: You put it on and just like I like the

1937
01:41:32,120 --> 01:41:33,840
Speaker 8: big Dutch obb and I like to just cook it

1938
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:34,360
Speaker 8: really slow.

1939
01:41:39,640 --> 01:41:44,719
Speaker 1: So are you satisfied with life?

1940
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:49,800
Speaker 6: Pot roast? No?

1941
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 5: Just and.

1942
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:56,600
Speaker 1: Where you are right now? Are you satisfied? M I

1943
01:41:56,640 --> 01:42:03,720
Speaker 1: mean all artists are insatiable, but are you? Is there

1944
01:42:03,840 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: anything left? You know? Oh?

1945
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 8: God?

1946
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I mean okay, that's a bad question. Ask

1947
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:12,240
Speaker 1: is there anything Everyone wants a world domination, but kind

1948
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: of like Denar on heat, like that whole thirty seconds thing, like, ye,

1949
01:42:16,760 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 1: is there something behind you that makes you want a

1950
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,599
Speaker 1: lot's wife turn around and just be like okay, let

1951
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: me I want the number one pop single.

1952
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 8: Or yeah fuck it? I mean yeah, I want all

1953
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:32,599
Speaker 8: that I want. I want to I want to see

1954
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 8: what my potential is. I'm on the path. I feel

1955
01:42:38,360 --> 01:42:42,320
Speaker 8: like I'm just like, literally, I'm singing for twenty years

1956
01:42:42,439 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 8: or twenty three years on record, and then one day

1957
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:47,920
Speaker 8: I just sing a chord on a record. What will

1958
01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,360
Speaker 8: happen in twenty years from now, Like, I don't know

1959
01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:55,560
Speaker 8: what's gonna happen. I really want to realize what I have,

1960
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:57,519
Speaker 8: and I feel like I'm just at the top of

1961
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:58,040
Speaker 8: it right now.

1962
01:42:58,600 --> 01:43:00,560
Speaker 1: I would agree you to me, You're one of the

1963
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 1: few people I know that it seems like, you know,

1964
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,200
Speaker 1: have a twenty plus years in it. Really just feel

1965
01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: like you're just getting started.

1966
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 8: And I feel like it is crazy to me, Like

1967
01:43:10,120 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 8: I know a lot of girls went like that, and

1968
01:43:12,600 --> 01:43:14,479
Speaker 8: I feel like I'm sort of you know. At times,

1969
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:16,560
Speaker 8: it has felt like it ebbed off and then it

1970
01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,560
Speaker 8: would creep up a little bit. But I feel like

1971
01:43:18,600 --> 01:43:21,920
Speaker 8: I'm on the path. I definitely would like the opportunity.

1972
01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 8: There seems to be a weird like when I go

1973
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:32,400
Speaker 8: to radio stations or when we do pitches for TV,

1974
01:43:32,920 --> 01:43:35,080
Speaker 8: when we do all the stuff, people are always like,

1975
01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 8: oh my god, we love you. I have your record

1976
01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:40,680
Speaker 8: in my car. I sang your father song at my

1977
01:43:40,800 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 8: father's funeral. Your record and your dad's record got me

1978
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:48,960
Speaker 8: through divorce all of these, uh, these monumental landmarks that

1979
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 8: people have me in their life, and it's hard to

1980
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:57,439
Speaker 8: plug those in in a mainstream way. It's it's a

1981
01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,000
Speaker 8: it's a weird situation for me because like I'm from Chicago,

1982
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 8: they don't really play my records in Chicago on the radio.

1983
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 8: Whenever I go through Chicago, I make time to go

1984
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:09,920
Speaker 8: to the radio station and meet everybody. I know, everybody.

1985
01:44:10,520 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 8: I've sang it, everybody's kids birthday, you know what I'm saying,

1986
01:44:14,640 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 8: Like everybody loves me, and there's no you know, I've

1987
01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 8: been seeing these a lot.

1988
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,960
Speaker 1: Of people, people like the idea of people that have help.

1989
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:23,000
Speaker 8: The concept of it, and.

1990
01:44:24,720 --> 01:44:26,120
Speaker 9: Yeah, can you not alone?

1991
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 8: I recognize that, I believe.

1992
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:34,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. But see, the thing is is, as long

1993
01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:41,920
Speaker 1: as you avoid the crazy potholes and you don't seem

1994
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:45,360
Speaker 1: like a person that I will say that we'll really

1995
01:44:45,439 --> 01:44:51,600
Speaker 1: truly separates you from a lot of the contemporaries of

1996
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:56,120
Speaker 1: yours that I personally know and personal life male and female.

1997
01:44:57,360 --> 01:45:02,200
Speaker 1: Is you don't seem to have, at least on surface,

1998
01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 1: any any saboteur kind of spirit about you. You seem

1999
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:14,000
Speaker 1: rather fearless, and your approach to stuff, mistakes could be

2000
01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,479
Speaker 1: made or whatever. Let me try this out. Let me okay,

2001
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:18,599
Speaker 1: let me get with this good. Let me try snarky puppy.

2002
01:45:18,680 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 1: Let me go into like you're just you're curious about it,

2003
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:25,000
Speaker 1: and you just with reckless abandonment. You just you just

2004
01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,200
Speaker 1: indulge yourself in it, which is good because a lot

2005
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:31,760
Speaker 1: of times, a lot of singers I see, they will

2006
01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: second guess and talk themselves out of a good thing

2007
01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:41,680
Speaker 1: and that sort of thing and tailspin until you know

2008
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: it's fifteen years between albums.

2009
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sort of okay. So before I wrap up, okay,

2010
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:52,600
Speaker 2: oh well yeah, we talk about your grammy, Well you

2011
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:54,960
Speaker 2: have multiple singing.

2012
01:45:55,160 --> 01:45:56,800
Speaker 1: Can I can I can? I can I make this

2013
01:45:57,000 --> 01:45:59,920
Speaker 1: to my personal therapy moment. Okay, I'm gonna get a

2014
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:02,800
Speaker 1: for this, but it's just her and I in the

2015
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: room right now. One, how long have you had that gift?

2016
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:11,719
Speaker 8: Since I was probably twelve or thirteen.

2017
01:46:12,680 --> 01:46:14,519
Speaker 1: That's the thing though, when I asked you, like and

2018
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,680
Speaker 1: your alone and stuff for you to perfect something like that.

2019
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 8: First of all, it's no, it's in the shower. I'm

2020
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:24,280
Speaker 8: in the shower, like what can I do with it?

2021
01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:26,680
Speaker 8: And I'm gonna show it to people. What is this?

2022
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:28,760
Speaker 8: What can I do it? And people are like, well,

2023
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 8: I don't know, it's cool, what can you do with it?

2024
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:34,120
Speaker 8: And then I did it on a John p Key

2025
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:35,720
Speaker 8: record and he kept it.

2026
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:41,439
Speaker 1: John p Key of all Things, Yes, quis No, this

2027
01:46:41,640 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 1: is like ten years ago. Oh okay, okay, he kept it.

2028
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:45,519
Speaker 8: I did it as a joke at the end of

2029
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:45,920
Speaker 8: his record.

2030
01:46:46,040 --> 01:46:58,479
Speaker 1: You know crash Cuts got ky Yeah, yeah, be in

2031
01:46:58,760 --> 01:47:03,360
Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah wait, I'm putting that out there. If

2032
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:05,519
Speaker 1: anyone knows how we can get the crash cuts, I

2033
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 1: need him on the show.

2034
01:47:07,439 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 6: A crash Cut.

2035
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:11,639
Speaker 1: It's a spirit. Let it modify in your life.

2036
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 6: He's the truth.

2037
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: He's a lie. Focus on Jesus. Jesus.

2038
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:26,080
Speaker 8: Just the fact that I was like, well, I did

2039
01:47:26,120 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 8: it for him and he kept it. And then people

2040
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,439
Speaker 8: said you should do it on records, and I said, well,

2041
01:47:30,479 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 8: it's not cool on a record because people can think

2042
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:33,640
Speaker 8: you manufactured.

2043
01:47:33,640 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 1: They can't see it.

2044
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,760
Speaker 8: So when I do it live for people, and I

2045
01:47:36,840 --> 01:47:39,880
Speaker 8: can do it in key and it's in context, then

2046
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 8: people see it. But if you ever have watched that

2047
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:47,360
Speaker 8: video with Snarky Puppy, I am realizing at that moment, Oh,

2048
01:47:47,479 --> 01:47:50,679
Speaker 8: I can do this. The first time is whack. Second

2049
01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:53,200
Speaker 8: time I started like, okay, just fucking go for it.

2050
01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 8: The third time it was clean, and then they changed keys,

2051
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 8: and then I was able to change with them. I

2052
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,800
Speaker 8: did not know what Corey is going to play, so

2053
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:03,200
Speaker 8: that what is that called?

2054
01:48:03,280 --> 01:48:03,720
Speaker 1: What is that?

2055
01:48:03,800 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 8: I don't know. It's not called anything. It's funny. People

2056
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 8: on YouTube like that is polytonic. I don't know what.

2057
01:48:10,600 --> 01:48:13,639
Speaker 8: I don't know. Anybody else I don't know. I think

2058
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 8: I have, I have not heard it.

2059
01:48:15,960 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: Is it hard to produce on the spot? Like like

2060
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:20,840
Speaker 1: whistling on the mic.

2061
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:28,639
Speaker 8: Sometimes it's a fourth. Sometimes I can get a six,

2062
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:29,599
Speaker 8: like a major sixth.

2063
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:32,320
Speaker 1: Not that I asked you to do it in this spot.

2064
01:48:33,640 --> 01:48:35,240
Speaker 9: I had no idea what you'a were talking about until

2065
01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 9: at the moment.

2066
01:48:36,680 --> 01:48:37,720
Speaker 8: It's feel ugly right now.

2067
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 1: You don't realize that she can harmonize with herself.

2068
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:42,920
Speaker 5: Yes, but I didn't know what specifically when you were like,

2069
01:48:43,080 --> 01:48:45,200
Speaker 5: what is that that you and you should patent that.

2070
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 1: I did not know what you meant. Now and that's

2071
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 1: since twelve you've been able to do that.

2072
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:52,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, in some form, it always just sounded. There are

2073
01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,800
Speaker 8: some things I'm working on that when I get them,

2074
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,720
Speaker 8: they're going to be awesome. Like I'm really working on

2075
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 8: finding the fundament note and then work in the overtone

2076
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:05,360
Speaker 8: over that. It sounds like shit right now, but when

2077
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 8: I can get it, it's going to be killer. I'm

2078
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 8: still working on those chords. They don't always come out

2079
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:14,320
Speaker 8: like I like, and they don't always I'm not in

2080
01:49:14,439 --> 01:49:16,600
Speaker 8: control of the color of it, and right now I

2081
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 8: can still only do it or an ooh on awe sound.

2082
01:49:19,520 --> 01:49:21,720
Speaker 8: So for me, it's not perfected. It's just something I

2083
01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 8: still I just have in my back pocket that nobody

2084
01:49:24,439 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 8: else can do. It's just way my instrument is set up.

2085
01:49:28,040 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 8: Way my instrument is set up.

2086
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, Like you just did that

2087
01:49:35,120 --> 01:49:38,920
Speaker 1: so effortlessly. But I know you have to have a

2088
01:49:39,040 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: place of trial and err and experimentation, and where does

2089
01:49:44,720 --> 01:49:45,200
Speaker 1: that happen?

2090
01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:49,479
Speaker 6: Just right just now, I'm for really you can do

2091
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,200
Speaker 6: that thing where you go I can't do it, you

2092
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 6: know what I'm talking about?

2093
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 1: That do it?

2094
01:49:53,960 --> 01:49:58,280
Speaker 6: What like when you stub your toe or when you see.

2095
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 1: Something like that? What's that one?

2096
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:07,000
Speaker 6: Do that?

2097
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:08,200
Speaker 1: Like that?

2098
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:25,320
Speaker 6: That's pretty impressive? Impressive? I was being sincere, but I

2099
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:28,400
Speaker 6: came off the opposite. But I think I can't do that, So.

2100
01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:30,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know I could do it till I just

2101
01:50:30,240 --> 01:50:34,920
Speaker 1: tried it. Well, yeah, I'm.

2102
01:50:33,960 --> 01:50:36,439
Speaker 8: Trying to learn how to sing overtones right now, right

2103
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:39,599
Speaker 8: but this sounds crazy and everybody can't hear.

2104
01:50:39,560 --> 01:50:43,840
Speaker 1: It, so okay, so so mmm.

2105
01:50:50,240 --> 01:50:51,800
Speaker 8: Like I can hear it in my head. I know

2106
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:54,519
Speaker 8: you guys can't hear it. I'm only getting a third

2107
01:50:54,560 --> 01:50:57,800
Speaker 8: and a fifth, so I'm working on that and one

2108
01:50:57,880 --> 01:51:00,360
Speaker 8: day I'm going to do it somewhere and it's going

2109
01:51:00,439 --> 01:51:03,400
Speaker 8: to flower into this thing and people will say wow,

2110
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:05,760
Speaker 8: and they will be like, when did you work on it?

2111
01:51:05,800 --> 01:51:16,240
Speaker 1: I'll be like, so you are out of this world

2112
01:51:18,520 --> 01:51:21,719
Speaker 1: and and again, not in an alien way or whatever,

2113
01:51:27,600 --> 01:51:28,400
Speaker 1: simply brilliant.

2114
01:51:29,800 --> 01:51:31,400
Speaker 8: Can we can we just say we love each other

2115
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 8: now and we'll just be friends. The last time I

2116
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:41,720
Speaker 8: saw you, you were like, you said, I find a word.

2117
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:43,920
Speaker 8: You said something, and I said, I thought I told

2118
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 8: you that. I said, let's do what? What what did

2119
01:51:46,160 --> 01:51:47,160
Speaker 8: we cover? Joelene?

2120
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:49,360
Speaker 5: Yeah?

2121
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:52,680
Speaker 8: And I said I've been telling you we should do that,

2122
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:55,080
Speaker 8: and you said, yeah, but now we're friends, And I

2123
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:57,240
Speaker 8: said I thought we was friends.

2124
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 1: Was yes, Well, one day I'll get over myself and

2125
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:13,519
Speaker 1: and and and be able to be in front of

2126
01:52:13,560 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: your brilliance. Remember that time I came.

2127
01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,240
Speaker 8: To see you Indiangelo in the studio at that time.

2128
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:20,559
Speaker 1: Doing the Voodoo period.

2129
01:52:21,439 --> 01:52:30,640
Speaker 8: This was like six seven years ago. Do y'all were

2130
01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 8: working listening to stuff? You don't remember?

2131
01:52:33,439 --> 01:52:36,120
Speaker 1: You have to remind me. It's we were in New York.

2132
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,760
Speaker 8: I came a boy to hang out ham I do

2133
01:52:38,920 --> 01:52:40,840
Speaker 8: with me and my cousin. You guys were working on

2134
01:52:40,960 --> 01:52:43,520
Speaker 8: some stuff, listening to some Michael Jackson stuff.

2135
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,840
Speaker 6: All right, So obviously they weren't just they weren't working

2136
01:52:47,880 --> 01:52:49,080
Speaker 6: on stuff. They were just listening to.

2137
01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:52,080
Speaker 8: Just listening to.

2138
01:52:53,600 --> 01:52:55,559
Speaker 1: Yes, yes at uh uh.

2139
01:52:56,120 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 6: S MSR at MSR forty eighth Street or something like that.

2140
01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,080
Speaker 5: Can I just ask all the question that the music

2141
01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 5: fans are thinking right now, like, is there any chance

2142
01:53:07,479 --> 01:53:09,439
Speaker 5: in the future, now that we've ironed this ship out,

2143
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,200
Speaker 5: that we can get like some roots lailor ship or something.

2144
01:53:12,400 --> 01:53:14,400
Speaker 9: Oh my god, I mean, I just I'm sorry, Ma.

2145
01:53:14,479 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 1: I know you like to put it on the spot,

2146
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:19,680
Speaker 1: but I'm like, no, listen, what I want to make

2147
01:53:19,800 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 1: absolutely positively ten thousand percent clear is that I've always loved.

2148
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, let's get to the work.

2149
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 1: I need you listening, car.

2150
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 5: But seriously, the fans they want, that's what they want,

2151
01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,679
Speaker 5: especially like as you know right now and the life

2152
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 5: and times, I just feel like there's something there.

2153
01:53:58,080 --> 01:54:00,200
Speaker 8: It's so nice to work with a band too. What

2154
01:54:00,360 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 8: they never happen then you need that.

2155
01:54:02,720 --> 01:54:07,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, she has the job. You don't have to. Yeah,

2156
01:54:09,040 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm not bullshitting. Yes, I would love to work with

2157
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:16,000
Speaker 1: Let's do it. There is a radio so that we're

2158
01:54:16,120 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 1: documenting for the world here, it's like we have, like

2159
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:23,040
Speaker 1: you can a million listeners right now. Yeah, Leila, I

2160
01:54:23,320 --> 01:54:26,920
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Thank you. Oh two questions.

2161
01:54:27,040 --> 01:54:28,640
Speaker 8: It goes so fast, doesn't it. It goes over. It

2162
01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 8: gets over so fast.

2163
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:32,840
Speaker 1: It's not when it's right, when it's done right. So

2164
01:54:32,920 --> 01:54:35,040
Speaker 1: I hope this question doesn't anger you because I don't

2165
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 1: know how you feel about this particular record, but your

2166
01:54:37,960 --> 01:54:41,720
Speaker 1: very first single. Some people don't like talking about their

2167
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:45,760
Speaker 1: very first records. So Inside the Beat, Oh, I didn't

2168
01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:47,000
Speaker 1: know this record existed until.

2169
01:54:48,560 --> 01:54:50,840
Speaker 8: So Inside the Beat was a demo that we didn't

2170
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 8: even give that demo to the people to get a deal.

2171
01:54:53,680 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 8: So whoever boot like that and made it into a single.

2172
01:54:57,200 --> 01:55:00,280
Speaker 8: People come to me and say I love you since

2173
01:55:00,360 --> 01:55:03,520
Speaker 8: the eighties, and I'm like, well, no, I didn't have

2174
01:55:03,560 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 8: any records in the eighties, just born.

2175
01:55:05,240 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2176
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:08,120
Speaker 8: That record came out, and then I did a Japanese

2177
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:11,120
Speaker 8: cigarette commercial where I recorded night and Day Wow, and

2178
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 8: they made it into a record. It's for sale now

2179
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,400
Speaker 8: in Japan and it was for a cigarette commercial.

2180
01:55:17,560 --> 01:55:19,680
Speaker 1: And when you buy it, that explains the cover.

2181
01:55:20,600 --> 01:55:21,440
Speaker 8: It doesn't make any sense.

2182
01:55:21,640 --> 01:55:23,760
Speaker 1: It makes absolutely It's like two random white people and

2183
01:55:23,880 --> 01:55:25,080
Speaker 1: you know it's a jack.

2184
01:55:26,320 --> 01:55:28,120
Speaker 8: So it's a dude with a teddy bear and a

2185
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:30,640
Speaker 8: ham at a bar smoking a cigarettes. I don't know

2186
01:55:30,640 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 8: what it's for, but that record, I'm just scatting at

2187
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:35,160
Speaker 8: the end of it a cappella and they kept it

2188
01:55:35,320 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 8: for the record. So a lot of things happened in

2189
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 8: the eighties, but that record is so that's a funny

2190
01:55:41,240 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 8: record to me.

2191
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:43,880
Speaker 1: I have to find that now. Have you ever heard it.

2192
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:45,400
Speaker 1: I've never heard it. I didn't know it existed until

2193
01:55:45,400 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 1: like a couple of hours.

2194
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 8: Let me just sing you the hook inside the beat?

2195
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:50,680
Speaker 1: Was it.

2196
01:55:55,720 --> 01:55:55,760
Speaker 5: That?

2197
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:06,600
Speaker 8: It's a super super disco type you know, occasionally I

2198
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:09,960
Speaker 8: got throw it into a DJ's eighties. It's super eighties.

2199
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:10,880
Speaker 8: Don't judge me.

2200
01:56:10,840 --> 01:56:13,360
Speaker 1: When you hear I'm gonna love it probably. And my

2201
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:16,360
Speaker 1: final question, how did you hook up with Martin Ware

2202
01:56:16,520 --> 01:56:19,080
Speaker 1: and uh Ian the I can't remember his name?

2203
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:19,600
Speaker 8: People.

2204
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, for.

2205
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 8: After my first record, I did a lot of records.

2206
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,839
Speaker 8: They were one of the groups of folks that approached

2207
01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 8: me and said, hey, can you come and be on

2208
01:56:31,400 --> 01:56:35,240
Speaker 8: our record? And Billy Preston was there and we record

2209
01:56:35,320 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 8: that slide tune. I don't even know. I just got

2210
01:56:37,520 --> 01:56:39,760
Speaker 8: really lucky based on my first record. People came to

2211
01:56:39,880 --> 01:56:43,240
Speaker 8: me that I would not have associated with the type

2212
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:45,640
Speaker 8: of music I was recording, Like Marcus Miller came and

2213
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,520
Speaker 8: I started working with him until now.

2214
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:47,920
Speaker 1: You know.

2215
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,960
Speaker 8: So, I don't know how I got so lucky.

2216
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:53,920
Speaker 1: I just because I always thought that was kind of

2217
01:56:53,920 --> 01:56:56,240
Speaker 1: a strange pairing. I mean, the end result was great,

2218
01:56:56,280 --> 01:56:57,800
Speaker 1: but it's not one that I would have.

2219
01:56:58,200 --> 01:56:59,800
Speaker 8: I have a record out now with a cat called

2220
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:04,080
Speaker 8: Miss Jukes. You know that record. It's a really interesting record.

2221
01:57:04,120 --> 01:57:05,840
Speaker 8: I don't know how this kid knows who I am.

2222
01:57:06,680 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 8: You know, he's a huge star somewhere else in the world.

2223
01:57:10,720 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 8: And I made a record with him, and I don't

2224
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:15,320
Speaker 8: know how that happens. I have lots of records. People

2225
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:17,840
Speaker 8: say I have all your albums, even the obscure ones,

2226
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:20,680
Speaker 8: and I'm like, no, you don't. There are records that

2227
01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:24,760
Speaker 8: I'm on in Japanese that only came out like in Fukuoka.

2228
01:57:25,240 --> 01:57:28,880
Speaker 8: Like really, you know? So I just keep getting lucky.

2229
01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 1: What's your favorite market to perform?

2230
01:57:32,120 --> 01:57:36,560
Speaker 8: I love Atlanta, I love Tokyo. I haven't been a

2231
01:57:36,640 --> 01:57:42,880
Speaker 8: whole lot of places. Actually, LA is becoming one of

2232
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:45,880
Speaker 8: my favorite places to play. It was a hard place

2233
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:47,720
Speaker 8: to play in the beginning because people would just come

2234
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:51,280
Speaker 8: sit and look at me, right, you know, But that

2235
01:57:51,400 --> 01:57:53,600
Speaker 8: happens everywhere I go. Like there's a certain amount of

2236
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 8: people in the front row that are just kind of

2237
01:57:55,320 --> 01:58:00,640
Speaker 8: like in some sort of weird I see your father trance,

2238
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:02,760
Speaker 8: you know, which I recognized.

2239
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:06,400
Speaker 1: Sorry, it's all right. How did the Mary tour end

2240
01:58:06,520 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 1: up going?

2241
01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:09,600
Speaker 8: It was cool, It was a lot of fun. It

2242
01:58:09,720 --> 01:58:11,480
Speaker 8: was great to be in front of her audience, even

2243
01:58:11,480 --> 01:58:13,400
Speaker 8: though I know that part of that audience is kind

2244
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:16,400
Speaker 8: of my audience as well. Every night, my DJ would say,

2245
01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:18,840
Speaker 8: how many of y'all this is your first Layla Hathaway show,

2246
01:58:18,840 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 8: and a lot of hands went up, and that told me, like,

2247
01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 8: I'm in the right place. You know, I'm getting in

2248
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:23,360
Speaker 8: front of folks.

2249
01:58:24,680 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 1: That's awesome. I'm good. Okay, Well Layla, anyone, anyone? Anyone?

2250
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:31,680
Speaker 1: Thank you?

2251
01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:38,160
Speaker 6: What was the song we worked on at Electric Lady?

2252
01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:40,160
Speaker 6: First time I met you? It was like a.

2253
01:58:41,640 --> 01:58:42,280
Speaker 1: Was it a Mary J.

2254
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:43,080
Speaker 8: Blige record?

2255
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:45,680
Speaker 5: I did do that?

2256
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:48,160
Speaker 1: I was assist which one?

2257
01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:49,360
Speaker 8: What was I producing?

2258
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: Mary J.

2259
01:58:49,800 --> 01:58:50,720
Speaker 8: Blige and Stevie Wonder?

2260
01:58:50,920 --> 01:58:50,960
Speaker 1: No?

2261
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 6: No, no, it was Is that a Christmas song?

2262
01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:57,040
Speaker 9: Maybe you dropped that though that that happened once?

2263
01:58:57,880 --> 01:59:00,760
Speaker 6: Was it might have been a cover of of This

2264
01:59:00,960 --> 01:59:02,920
Speaker 6: Christmas for some like.

2265
01:59:03,440 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 8: I just did. I just did that for Spotify for

2266
01:59:06,120 --> 01:59:08,280
Speaker 8: the first time. Wait, what year was it you remember?

2267
01:59:08,760 --> 01:59:13,840
Speaker 6: It would be the late nineties something like that or

2268
01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:14,839
Speaker 6: early two thousands.

2269
01:59:15,280 --> 01:59:16,600
Speaker 8: You remember who the session was with?

2270
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 6: No, I don't remember much of anything.

2271
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:23,440
Speaker 8: I hear you, man, I don't know. I feel like

2272
01:59:23,480 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 8: I've always known you. I don't know if I ever

2273
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:27,360
Speaker 8: tell you that. There's something about you that I feel

2274
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:29,240
Speaker 8: like I have always known, and I don't.

2275
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:29,640
Speaker 5: Know what that is.

2276
01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:32,720
Speaker 1: Every engineer you've ever met, No, but you.

2277
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:34,920
Speaker 8: Remind me of this kid I went to high school

2278
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:37,720
Speaker 8: with named Todd Heckman, who gave me a lot of records.

2279
01:59:37,800 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 8: There's something about you I connect with, not I don't

2280
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:41,280
Speaker 8: know what that is.

2281
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:43,920
Speaker 1: All right, Maybe it's the records.

2282
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,440
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm going over to house and.

2283
01:59:53,840 --> 01:59:59,320
Speaker 1: So have you? Have you? Have you fulfilled your bucket

2284
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:01,520
Speaker 1: list as far as the people that you've wanted.

2285
02:00:01,280 --> 02:00:06,440
Speaker 8: To almost work with almost, I mean, ship, Well, there's

2286
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:09,560
Speaker 8: a lot left. I mean, but if I got hit

2287
02:00:09,600 --> 02:00:11,240
Speaker 8: by a bus today, I have to say, well.

2288
02:00:13,200 --> 02:00:13,440
Speaker 1: We did.

2289
02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:22,040
Speaker 8: Prince did, Billy Preston, Anita Shaka, Vince Mendoza, Herbie Wayne,

2290
02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:24,800
Speaker 8: Dizzy Little.

2291
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:30,640
Speaker 1: Wow.

2292
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:37,160
Speaker 8: I don't know, I really there's a lot of people left, and.

2293
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,160
Speaker 1: Now we got to work together because I don't want

2294
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 1: to be on the I don't. I don't want to.

2295
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:47,240
Speaker 8: I want to be I already already know. There's there's

2296
02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:48,720
Speaker 8: a few people I really want to work with that

2297
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:50,960
Speaker 8: I talk to every time I see them about working

2298
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:52,840
Speaker 8: and I know it's not going to happen to go around.

2299
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 8: Who Stevie? You haven't worked with him yet, not officially.

2300
02:00:58,160 --> 02:00:59,440
Speaker 1: Man, I would have thought he would have been the

2301
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:00,600
Speaker 1: first one. He can't.

2302
02:01:00,720 --> 02:01:05,880
Speaker 8: He's he's he's you know, yeah, we we always talk

2303
02:01:05,920 --> 02:01:07,560
Speaker 8: about it. He's got a song for me. I need

2304
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:09,920
Speaker 8: to go. I need to call him. I'm gonna call Aisha.

2305
02:01:10,040 --> 02:01:12,360
Speaker 8: I'm gonna keep calling. I'm gonna keep trying to do

2306
02:01:12,440 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 8: it every time, but I don't know that it's gonna happen.

2307
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, and it's okay, no, wait wait now

2308
02:01:17,760 --> 02:01:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that's the thing. Yeah, now I'm thinking what

2309
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 1: song would she be good for? No, because one time

2310
02:01:31,160 --> 02:01:34,480
Speaker 1: I heard him trying to give Knocking on your Door

2311
02:01:34,520 --> 02:01:37,840
Speaker 1: to Jennifer Hudson really and I was like, no, I

2312
02:01:37,960 --> 02:01:43,680
Speaker 1: was Jennifer husband. But it's just that song, right, Yeah,

2313
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm jealously you know what, I think I might know one.

2314
02:01:49,480 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: We have to we have to can't play it on there, damn. Okay,

2315
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:58,200
Speaker 1: y'all saying y'alluys really Stevie stuff going on? We would

2316
02:01:58,360 --> 02:02:01,200
Speaker 1: never say that, and thank you. Never know that public

2317
02:02:01,320 --> 02:02:06,680
Speaker 1: throwing us under the bus on your own radio shown. Yes,

2318
02:02:06,840 --> 02:02:09,640
Speaker 1: even the Pandora people are looking at you. You say,

2319
02:02:09,680 --> 02:02:15,720
Speaker 1: woman's wrong drinking. Yeah, I got some underleased from literally

2320
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 1: Stevie J, some underly Steve J track that he did

2321
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:19,080
Speaker 1: for the mister Dalvin record.

2322
02:02:19,120 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it came out on Everick it came out,

2323
02:02:24,120 --> 02:02:27,879
Speaker 2: it did, mister Yeah, wait, mister.

2324
02:02:28,200 --> 02:02:32,000
Speaker 1: Had a album met a morph Morphic single was called

2325
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:36,839
Speaker 1: and actually that's why he did those DJ Blad interviews

2326
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:40,640
Speaker 1: by himself. I was wondering why, like he was getting

2327
02:02:40,640 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 1: the star treatment, like he had a project out, but

2328
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:46,760
Speaker 1: well this was like ninety yeah, it was came it

2329
02:02:46,840 --> 02:02:50,360
Speaker 1: was back in the day. No, no, that horrible.

2330
02:02:50,640 --> 02:02:55,200
Speaker 9: It was not heard him saying the joint.

2331
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:58,440
Speaker 2: His mister Davin jams was always the soundtrack jams. Like

2332
02:02:58,560 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 2: his soundtrack jams.

2333
02:02:59,680 --> 02:03:02,560
Speaker 1: He has one true o G that was on Dangerous Mind.

2334
02:03:02,640 --> 02:03:07,880
Speaker 1: There was there was another one that was you know what,

2335
02:03:08,120 --> 02:03:11,240
Speaker 1: I want an episode where you two just Cisco and

2336
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:16,720
Speaker 1: Ebert whoever that is, whoever that is Wells and Ebert,

2337
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:22,120
Speaker 1: every R and B record. No, I'm down for that.

2338
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:26,120
Speaker 1: It's an art watching these two like go Got Got

2339
02:03:26,240 --> 02:03:31,760
Speaker 1: Over I never heard of before, obscure B sides and soundtrack.

2340
02:03:31,400 --> 02:03:38,560
Speaker 11: Songs you never heard of, mister Belvedere. All right, so yeah,

2341
02:03:38,760 --> 02:03:41,920
Speaker 11: so Stevie, yeah, Stete, all right.

2342
02:03:42,080 --> 02:03:44,160
Speaker 8: There's a lot of people though, you know, because when

2343
02:03:44,160 --> 02:03:45,520
Speaker 8: I mean people, they say I want to make a

2344
02:03:45,560 --> 02:03:48,040
Speaker 8: whole record with you. They don't say we want to

2345
02:03:48,080 --> 02:03:50,280
Speaker 8: make a song like That's why I came to see

2346
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:53,320
Speaker 8: D'Angelo that night. He's another one. I keep telling him

2347
02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 8: we should make the Blackish record. Ever, we should do

2348
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:58,800
Speaker 8: it now, while we're both living. We should both we

2349
02:03:58,840 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 8: should do it now.

2350
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,360
Speaker 9: Give her our chances of mere what you think?

2351
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:04,080
Speaker 8: Every time he says it, he says, you know, I

2352
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:06,200
Speaker 8: love you. I want to do it. Let's do it.

2353
02:04:09,080 --> 02:04:15,920
Speaker 1: It's more on b it's more. I wish d Angela

2354
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:19,280
Speaker 1: was on the show for three words were words. We

2355
02:04:19,640 --> 02:04:22,240
Speaker 1: had a wager. What was the wager everybody was going

2356
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:24,200
Speaker 1: to get? It was one hundred one thousand, one thousand

2357
02:04:24,280 --> 02:04:27,280
Speaker 1: dollars Christmas bonus. They said that I could never get

2358
02:04:27,360 --> 02:04:29,920
Speaker 1: d angel on the show. And it just so happens

2359
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,200
Speaker 1: that Dangela had to stop by the studio to pick

2360
02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:36,960
Speaker 1: something up nice and I love it. And then he

2361
02:04:37,000 --> 02:04:38,680
Speaker 1: went out for a pack of cigarettes and never came back.

2362
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:44,440
Speaker 1: Right pulled the black Daddy on us. Black dad anyway.

2363
02:04:44,760 --> 02:04:46,920
Speaker 1: H yeah, I thank you for coming on the show.

2364
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:47,960
Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you.

2365
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:50,920
Speaker 1: I had so much fun with you, man, thank you,

2366
02:04:52,280 --> 02:04:54,240
Speaker 1: thank you. We want to do this for a long time.

2367
02:04:54,280 --> 02:04:55,840
Speaker 1: We've been trying to we're trying to catch this other

2368
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:56,640
Speaker 1: and stuff.

2369
02:04:57,080 --> 02:04:59,880
Speaker 9: Thank you so much for doing this, making it happen.

2370
02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:01,120
Speaker 8: How long you're gonna be here.

2371
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:07,240
Speaker 1: Forever? We're shooting forever. He'll be here forever, well, not forever.

2372
02:05:07,400 --> 02:05:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean, we're going to do a couple more episodes

2373
02:05:10,080 --> 02:05:14,880
Speaker 1: and then you know, I'm in town to like Tuesday Wednesday, you.

2374
02:05:14,920 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 8: Want to go bowling or something?

2375
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:16,840
Speaker 9: Yeah, I live here, let's go.

2376
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:17,840
Speaker 1: Where do you live?

2377
02:05:18,200 --> 02:05:18,680
Speaker 9: Hollywood?

2378
02:05:19,600 --> 02:05:21,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, I thank you for coming on the show. Leila,

2379
02:05:22,040 --> 02:05:23,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you,

2380
02:05:23,960 --> 02:05:27,320
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Appreciated and we will we will

2381
02:05:27,320 --> 02:05:31,040
Speaker 1: work in the future. So on behalf of the team,

2382
02:05:31,120 --> 02:05:34,000
Speaker 1: Supreme Crew on, behalf of the teams.

2383
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:36,960
Speaker 9: You're not part of the team, so you ain't gonna

2384
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:39,600
Speaker 9: say our names. It's not usually like Bill, you know.

2385
02:05:39,720 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we want some individual credit, all right, Sugar Steve

2386
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:49,040
Speaker 1: and in Boston, Bill and font Tikeolo and sweet Feet.

2387
02:05:54,320 --> 02:06:01,760
Speaker 1: It's like, is sweet feet all right? It's might be

2388
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:06,880
Speaker 1: so yeah, Actually, Lela, we we sort of did work together.

2389
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:10,240
Speaker 1: Now that I think of it, it does not count. Well,

2390
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:12,880
Speaker 1: then then you and Nancy Wilson didn't count, then.

2391
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:13,440
Speaker 8: It does count.

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Speaker 1: That does count record Technically we work together because of

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Speaker 1: the Hidden Figure soundtrack that the Roots just totally remade.

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Speaker 8: Uhn' wait to hear the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's it's freaking awesome and we're gonna release it

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Speaker 1: for a record store day. Yeah. And this is your

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Speaker 1: contribution called Surrender and my favorite joint on the record. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you. West Love Supreme is a production iHeartRadio. This

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