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Speaker 1: Wynnie Cummings is a stand up comedian, actress, writer, director, producer,

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Speaker 1: and fellow podcaster. She is amazing. She is pregnant. She

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Speaker 1: is entertaining. She is talented. She is smart. She is outspoken.

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Speaker 1: She is unfiltered. She has had an incredible career. She

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Speaker 1: has starred in shows like Two Broke Girls, released seven

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Speaker 1: comedy specials, published a book, and is the host of

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Speaker 1: the podcast Good for You Now. She's ready for the

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Speaker 1: next chapter in her life as a mom. This is

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Speaker 1: just be with Whitney Cummings. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 2: I am so sorry, I am late.

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Speaker 1: I don't care at all.

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Speaker 2: You're like the person who's approval I weirdly care about

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Speaker 2: the most. On some level, I was thinking about you, though.

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Speaker 2: So I put this Zoom podcast in my calendar while

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Speaker 2: I was in Austin, Texas. So I thought I had

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Speaker 2: two more hours and time zone.

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Speaker 1: Shit's been happening a lot lately. Wait, so the clip

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Speaker 1: is not in the back of our head It's at

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Speaker 1: the front, which is the headline. Like, I've never seen

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Speaker 1: someone with the clips so forward.

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Speaker 2: Oh my hair clip? Okay, So I need to okay

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Speaker 2: one thing at a time. I was just making a bagel,

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Speaker 2: thinking about you. I think about you every time I

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Speaker 2: make a bagel.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm famous for bagels.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you are infamous, more than famous, famous and infamous.

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Speaker 2: So I do my clip like this, I can't. I

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Speaker 2: do a very high pony okay, high on the side.

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Speaker 2: It's like a mini facelift. Okay. And then I twist, twist, twist,

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Speaker 2: put it in the front, roll it like a hot dog,

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Speaker 2: move it back and then and then clip it like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay. I like it. And because also that means you

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Speaker 1: have to have nice clip. That means it gives use

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Speaker 1: to the nice clips that you buy. And and and

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Speaker 1: you're pregnant, and I'm pregnant.

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Speaker 2: I just started I got I started buying these hair clips.

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Speaker 2: I used to do the J Crew ones. Those were

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Speaker 2: so expensive and I would lose them. I found these.

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Speaker 2: I don't know where, but I saw this hack on

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Speaker 2: TikTok where you can use a hairclip to be a

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Speaker 2: tripod for your phone. Same, So that's why I bought these.

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Speaker 1: It's so smart. And you have that little wallet on

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Speaker 1: your phone that I got too. Did they send that

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Speaker 1: to you? I think they might have sent that to me.

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Speaker 1: It's like a wallet and you can put a purse

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Speaker 1: and make a phone purse.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the purse phone wallet thing, I'm very picky about.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure someone has maybe sent one, but I'm very

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Speaker 2: specific about the kind I like. I do. The bandelier,

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Speaker 2: it only has a thing for credit cards. That's it.

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Speaker 2: You're right.

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Speaker 1: I bought that one. I bought it. I didn't get sented.

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Speaker 1: It was case logic, that's sent. I bought that and

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Speaker 1: I bought a strap to go with it, and I started.

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Speaker 1: I did like three walks and then stop, and I

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Speaker 1: felt like, you're that mom. Now you're that bitch. Now

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Speaker 1: that has a purse phone.

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Speaker 2: It's a new pocket protector. Everyone thinks you're a loser.

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Speaker 2: But I always know where my phone is because what

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Speaker 2: I used to do is I would always have my

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Speaker 2: phone playing music or a podcast, so I could always

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Speaker 2: find it. I always always have it. I could be

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Speaker 2: giving myself air cancer, but I always wear it on

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Speaker 2: my person.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I got to get back to that, except

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Speaker 1: they had vandalier. You have to find a way to

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Speaker 1: put the charger, like you could have the charger somehow,

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Speaker 1: because you have to make a choice, like you're either

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Speaker 1: charging or you're pursing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's uh, there's a charger port on the bottom.

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Speaker 1: No, like the extra charger that you could jolt in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the day, or like that little apple

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Speaker 1: thing that you can attach they could really get.

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Speaker 2: You mean you need a charge charger, a charge charger. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: then I might take you downstairs and show you this

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Speaker 2: new contraption I started using.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, I can see we haven't even gotten into

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Speaker 1: the interview, but this is great.

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Speaker 2: Wait.

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Speaker 1: I have a water purse too, because if you're going

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Speaker 1: through the airport, it's a per it's a water bottle

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Speaker 1: that has a purse strap. So you've got two things

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Speaker 1: going on. Okay, she goes, she's walk and she's walking,

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Speaker 1: and she's walking, and.

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Speaker 2: We're walking through my house. Because I am at this

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Speaker 2: point a Karen. I am so sick of these Silicon

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Speaker 2: Valley dorks. Hold on, I'm sick of.

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Speaker 1: She's trying to one up me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, sorry, sorry.

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Speaker 1: The water purse triggered her.

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Speaker 2: Now that I've seen your TikTok and how sort of

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Speaker 2: intimate it is, I'm fearless. Now there's nothing I won't

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Speaker 2: put on the internet. After what I've seen you do

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Speaker 2: to a bagel.

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Speaker 1: This entire interview is going to be based off of

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Speaker 1: your twenty five things you don't know about me, And

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Speaker 1: I want to give us Weekly a shout out because

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Speaker 1: I've learned so much about so many people from that list.

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Speaker 2: That's the other one. I like that one too, But

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Speaker 2: I don't like it when people don't tell their secrets.

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Speaker 2: Tell me why you lost weight, if it's ozempic or

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Speaker 2: whatever it is, I don't care. Just share it. If

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Speaker 2: you have some life hack, tell everybody about it, Like,

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Speaker 2: help make other people's lives easier. What is else? Is

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Speaker 2: the point of being a celebrity if you can't? Okay,

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Speaker 2: so this is a wow.

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Speaker 1: It's they're like body chaps she's putting on.

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Speaker 2: Is it's like a vest you can wear. I just

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Speaker 2: I'm not wearing underwear that has all these little pouches

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Speaker 2: and then you zip it and it's actually a cute

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Speaker 2: little vest and you can put it over anything. And

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Speaker 2: so I'll put the charge charger in one, I'll put

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Speaker 2: the phone in the other, and then I'll just walk

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Speaker 2: around while they're charging.

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Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, let's just discuss something.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Is that our non pregnant people allowed to wear that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this I got before pregnancy. It's like a do

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Speaker 2: you know the exercise thing people are doing now called

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Speaker 2: the rucksack where you put like a backpack on of

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Speaker 2: thirty pounds and you go for a walk. It's supposed

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Speaker 2: to be it's supposed to be amazing for you. Because

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Speaker 2: they're now finding that, we're so all over the place.

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Speaker 2: I love less.

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Speaker 1: Oh so this is what my literally the girls said,

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Speaker 1: this is what my interview with David Spade was like.

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Speaker 1: It went nowhere and it never started and it never finished.

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Speaker 1: It was like a free association of thought. So I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what we're talking about. We're gonna get

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Speaker 1: there wherever there is.

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Speaker 2: We're like two puppies that finally get to play. I

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Speaker 2: feel like, but I feel like your fans just want

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Speaker 2: to know, like I don't know, like just want us

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Speaker 2: to be authentic and whatever. I'm or manic and so

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Speaker 2: I just throw this over something. I just throw it

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Speaker 2: over something. I'm sick of carrying a purse. I'm sick

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Speaker 2: of losing it. I'm sick of it turning into a

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Speaker 2: flaccid ballsack when I put it down the bottom of

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Speaker 2: purses are disgusting. They're too expensive. I always spill water

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Speaker 2: bottles in them.

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Speaker 1: Because you have to have pouch. You have to have

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Speaker 1: a pouch lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 1: Every person has to have a pouch in it. So

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Speaker 1: when you go in, you either take the one pouch

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Speaker 1: and transfer it or it's also shaping your bags and

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Speaker 1: you're putting your lip glass and stuff, and so it's

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Speaker 1: never going to hit the bottom of your nice bag.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And then you reach in and you're just like,

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Speaker 2: am I about to get im paled by something? Am

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Speaker 2: I about to get tetanus? But you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: You can pull the pouch out and you don't have

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Speaker 1: to deal with the purse. The purse is basically a

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Speaker 1: facade for the interior.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but then I have to have a pouch for

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Speaker 2: my pens because one of the pens is going to explode.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a lot of things I need

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Speaker 2: to carry with me. And I also feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: so psycho now about trying to stay hydrated, and there's

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Speaker 2: no water bottle that's not eventually going to unscrew in

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Speaker 2: your purse turn upside down. I also, have you done

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Speaker 2: this yet?

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Speaker 1: Where that's why you need a water purse?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Is that a thing?

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Speaker 1: I bought them? And yeah, they it's a purse. It's

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Speaker 1: a half the size of this bottle, and it's got

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Speaker 1: a chain. It basically looks like your bandlair bag and

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Speaker 1: you can carry it around.

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Speaker 2: Oh like a okay, got it? Like the I don't know,

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Speaker 2: we're not saving Private Ryan, Like we're not.

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Speaker 1: What are you talking about military with pockets. I've let

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Speaker 1: you're on the set of Masks. I've never tried to

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Speaker 1: be delighted because you're a guest in my home. That's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: I do not believe you just came. We're not in

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Speaker 1: saving price. You are in saving Private Ryan. That thing

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Speaker 1: put them on your social media. It's not okay, let's

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Speaker 1: start here. Whose baby are you carrying that?

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you, but.

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Speaker 1: January Jones, thank you. Do you remember like she was

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Speaker 1: she was pregnant and no one knew whose baby it was.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right. No, But he's he's wonderful, and I

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Speaker 2: just he's not a public person. Yeah, I have three weeks.

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Speaker 2: I have three more weeks and then I'm having my

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Speaker 2: I'm having my first child.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, it's the best thing.

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Speaker 2: I'm terrified of childbirth, but other than that, I'm looking

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Speaker 2: forward to it. Oh my, did you have when you

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Speaker 2: had your daughter? Did you have like a boy name

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Speaker 2: and a girl name, because I'm in the market for

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Speaker 2: a boy name.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but they were both generic and could kind of

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Speaker 1: be either. I think in the beginning, well yes, kind of. Well,

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Speaker 1: Brent is not couldn't be really necessarily be a boy,

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Speaker 1: but Casey was one either. And I think we changed

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Speaker 1: her middle name. I think we first had her as

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Speaker 1: to legally change it. I changed my mind and literally

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Speaker 1: she already had a legal name change, and I asked you,

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Speaker 1: what is that?

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Speaker 2: What does that look like? A couple women? I know,

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Speaker 2: and it's always women. I really like they go. After

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Speaker 2: like two weeks, I realized he wasn't a Solomon, he

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Speaker 2: was a market Oh oh.

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Speaker 1: That's hilarious. I know she was always she was going

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Speaker 1: to be a Brin. But I think the middle name

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Speaker 1: was Alex. And the reason I wanted to change it

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Speaker 1: was in case I ever had a boy, and then

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Speaker 1: I wanted to save it. It's it's all blurry.

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Speaker 2: Now. Look my last name is Cummings. It's a tough pairing,

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Speaker 2: it's a tough handle. I wanted to name him Maximus.

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Speaker 2: I realized that was not a That's not fair to him.

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Speaker 2: He's going to get bullied regardless. But so I feel

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Speaker 2: like there's I had a list of fifty girl names

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Speaker 2: that I liked, and there's like three guy names at

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Speaker 2: this point. It's like Miles Julius Henry, like like, I

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Speaker 2: can't that's all I got, But I feel like that's whatever.

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Speaker 1: Well, Miles Cummings is a great name, but also it's

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Speaker 1: it's speaking to Cummings like Miles, like Miles Miles of

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Speaker 1: Well, I guess it's you know, for every birth there's

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Speaker 2: But it's also wild because you know, you see people

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Speaker 1: That's very Housewives, it is, that's very house Did you

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Speaker 1: Not an age that you even know about eating disorders

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because I would go back and forth

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Speaker 2: I saw. I was like the weirdo at school who

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00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 2: had like triscuts and cottage cheese. Like I had the

435
00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,200
Speaker 2: lunch bag that was just like wet and just like

436
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 2: like it was a My mom worked a Bloomingdale, so

437
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:18,119
Speaker 2: it was a little brown bag like I always had,

438
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 2: like a blooming sales bag. You know. It was just

439
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 2: so weird. And another thing that you made me think of.

440
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 2: I remember one time finding dex a trim. Do you

441
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,399
Speaker 2: remember that. I don't. It was, of course, quote weight

442
00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,600
Speaker 2: loss pill. It was I think probably just a lot

443
00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 2: of caffeine. And I remember I used to sneak that

444
00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,760
Speaker 2: and try to take that. But I would find like

445
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 2: weird sketchy diet pills.

446
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,760
Speaker 1: That probably that's one thing that's better about now. It's different.

447
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 1: People are obsessed with intimontent fasting and juicing and cleansing.

448
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 1: And it was epic back then, you're right, Like there

449
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: was was a diet that said like one hot dog,

450
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: one half a cup of coffee, and then you could

451
00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 1: have one scoop of an l ice cream. Like it

452
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,440
Speaker 1: was all random and it was very Scarsdale diet, Akins diet.

453
00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 1: Like every week there a new thing that you'd grip onto.

454
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: The slim fast bars came out.

455
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,880
Speaker 2: There was one that was like steak and wine exactly,

456
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 2: the kind of thing which I think I'm kind of

457
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 2: into that one. Remember. But like also we were all

458
00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 2: a little off, you know, like remember the food pyramid

459
00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: when we were like si, it was like the whole

460
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 2: bottom was like loaves of bread, like French bread, potatoes,

461
00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 2: like a big pile of beans. Like it was just

462
00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 2: like the psycho.

463
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 1: And measuring measuring. They wanted to get to measure your food.

464
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 1: It was so noisy to begin with, you're starting off,

465
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 1: you know the food pyramid was totally insustainable.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it was just I mean, you know, and

467
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 2: I think everyone's bodies are different, you know whatever. But

468
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: but so then by the time I get to high school,

469
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm full blown. It's just about being as skinny as possible.

470
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 2: It's just about being as skinny as possible. And something

471
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 2: I will say that is, you know, you know when

472
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,720
Speaker 2: people struggle with uh, severe in orexia or severe over

473
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,719
Speaker 2: eating stuff, being really really heavy. I've learned a lot

474
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 2: about how there's some childhood sexual abuse sometimes involved in that,

475
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 2: so you know, it's about sort of making yourself either

476
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,680
Speaker 2: unappealing or not feminine or not sexually attractive, or protecting

477
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240
Speaker 2: yourself by being heavy and stuff. So I feel like

478
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: I always need to kind of say that the same

479
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 2: I was reading something about people to get a lot

480
00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 2: of plastic surgery sometimes and get super dysomorphic that they're

481
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: trying to change the face of the change the person

482
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 2: that was molested or something. So's, yeah, there's a lot

483
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: of like other stuff in here. And we absolutely had

484
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 2: some you know, inappropriate stuff going on in you know

485
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: for me as a child too, So I don't know

486
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 2: what was what.

487
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Speaker 1: You're talking about. Sexual stuff, yeah, sexual same like me too.

488
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 1: You remember things and your mind plays tricks on you,

489
00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 1: but you like the father's friend might and you think,

490
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 1: like you remember the moment too clearly about a couple

491
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: of people, but like you just dealt with it, and

492
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 1: you almost feel like fraudulent if you came out and

493
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 1: talked about it specifically, because if feels hazy, but you

494
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: know it's true, that kind of thing.

495
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: Yes, And I know a couple situations that were absolutely true.

496
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 2: I think I was confused for a while because one

497
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 2: of them was a woman. Oh and you know, well

498
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: back in the day, we didn't babysitters, didn't get them

499
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: off apps where they were vetted. It was just like like,

500
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 2: does anyone on the street have a thirteen year old son?

501
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 2: Like that was your babysitter back then.

502
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,600
Speaker 1: Totally, totally, totally, totally I was physically abused by a

503
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: babysitter too, That's totally true. Anyone could smack anyone could

504
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,760
Speaker 1: could smack you. Anyone could be you know, what's it

505
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:38,440
Speaker 1: called spank you.

506
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: Oh. I would go to friend's houses. I would get

507
00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,640
Speaker 2: I mean literally against a wall with a ruler by

508
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 2: someone else's.

509
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 1: Dad exactly, which doesn't happen at your own house exactly.

510
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: You can't you can't even find that on porn Hub,

511
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 2: but they even take that down, you know, So it

512
00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: was you know, so there is some of that. I

513
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 2: have no reason to have needed to be that skinny,

514
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 2: you know, so there was obviously something else going on.

515
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 2: I'm sure, you know. It made people kind of I've

516
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,679
Speaker 2: talked to people, and that I went to high school with.

517
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 2: It made people kind of like scared to talk to me.

518
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 2: And maybe I liked that in a way because I

519
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 2: was really awkward socially and I was very a loner

520
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 2: kind of and maybe I like I never went to

521
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 2: lunch and sat with the popular girls. I went eight

522
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 2: raisins in my car, you know, shit like that, insular, isolated,

523
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: and then by the time I got to college, it

524
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: just was weird. Like it was like I would take

525
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: these Swiss miss powdered hot chocolate. I would buy like

526
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 2: five or six boxes at the grocery store, pour them

527
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,840
Speaker 2: in a bowl, put water, and then the ones that

528
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 2: only had twenty calories and mix them up, put it

529
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,439
Speaker 2: in the microwave and turn like turn them into like

530
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: a cake. Wow.

531
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Speaker 1: You know what it sounds though, like you were obsessive

532
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 1: because I relate to that too, So you needed like

533
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: a new project, like, oh, this is the diet. I'm

534
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: only eating one rice cake, two apples, like a weird formula.

535
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:03,879
Speaker 1: It becomes your own. I don't know if you're like

536
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: that now. I still am. But in organizing and like

537
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: getting rid of things and nothing extra, it's obsessive and

538
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: it's a problem.

539
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: You're safe food. So it's like if someone was like, hey,

540
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,919
Speaker 2: do you want you know, acado and this avocado toast

541
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 2: that probably has less calories and less fat. It's just

542
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 2: it's not I know how this ends. I know how

543
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: this works. I have you know. By the time I,

544
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: you know, got to La, it was it was turkey

545
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 2: jerky and maple syrup, just weird.

546
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: And then I went through loud those were allowed, like popcorn,

547
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: you were allowed, but others are forbidden foods.

548
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 2: Yes, then it was it was carrots and ketchup carrots

549
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,199
Speaker 2: and barbecue sauce. Like it just was condiments, you know,

550
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 2: like weird condiments shit like that, but stuff that ultimately

551
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 2: I think made me need to hide because it was embarrassing. Yes,

552
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 2: it was never something socially accepted and something that made

553
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 2: me feel some shame afterwards, you know. So it was

554
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: just bizarre. I definitely went through those seaweed things. I'll

555
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: see you eatn those seaweed things, but the withsabi seaweed sheets.

556
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's new, like how how has your how

557
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: has this manifested? As a woman in Hollywood? And then

558
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: as a pregnant woman.

559
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 2: I got to the point, there's a couple of things.

560
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,440
Speaker 2: I went to a program called ACA Adult Children of

561
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 2: Alcoholics that is about growing up an alcoholic home and

562
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 2: all the sort of maladaptive behaviors that you get very

563
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: honestly in order to survive as a child. They serve

564
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: you very well, you know, the people pleasing, the mothering, Martyring, micromanaging,

565
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 2: self depriving, control, addiction, perfectionism, addiction, the overachieving thing. And

566
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 2: then went to that program was a total miracle, really

567
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: helped me. You know, you do these like inner child

568
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 2: exercises of like you treat yourself. You treat yourself the

569
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 2: way you would treat a five year old child. That

570
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 2: kind of sounds dorky. You write her letters, you know,

571
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 2: you write the question about what do you want to

572
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,679
Speaker 2: eat today? And your right hand you respond as her

573
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: in your non dominant hand, and she'll say, like peanut butter,

574
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: and jelly, and you go, well, that's all reading for lunch.

575
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: And I also got sick of wasting so much time.

576
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,359
Speaker 2: I did read this book called The Tools I Phil

577
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: Stutts and Barry Michaels. Phil Stutts is like the biggest

578
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 2: like therapist you know out here, And there's this exercise

579
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: called the deathbed exercise. It just resonated with me. It'd

580
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: be like, you imagine yourself on your deathbed and you

581
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 2: picture all the things you're going to be, like annoyed

582
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 2: you wasted time on. And I remember being I remember

583
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: being with Busy Phillips. I'm sure you know Busy. We

584
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: were like working on something and she was like, if

585
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:29,119
Speaker 2: I'm on my deathbed, going like I can't believe how

586
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: much time I wasted thinking about calories and food, and

587
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 2: I went, that is going to be me, like just

588
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 2: the how many was that? And what am I gonna

589
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 2: eat next? And what did I eat today? Now I

590
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: have to go on a walk, and like I didn't

591
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: have a personal it's a full time job, and I'd

592
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 2: be like, I feel like I'd be the most successful

593
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: person in Hollywood if I just took the energy I

594
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 2: spend on like driving around the city, getting that one

595
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,200
Speaker 2: protein bar that's the safe protein bar this month.

596
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: Oh wow, and just to meet with organizing, to be

597
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: honest with you, like that's going to be with organizing.

598
00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,679
Speaker 2: Have you ever hired someone to come in and do

599
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 2: it for you or you won't?

600
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: I could do it for them.

601
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 2: I there is. Though, do you ever play like like

602
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: Tetris or any of those games? I started going back

603
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: to playing old games. It's like the symmetry of the

604
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: Tea and Tetris, Like don't you know that video game?

605
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: Remember those things are falling. It's very soothing to organize

606
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: and put things in their place and know where they are.

607
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: But that's back man.

608
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: I was always obsessed with misspac Man and it's very satisfying,

609
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: and it's very much like that. And the thing is, I,

610
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: because of the crazy amount that I have going on

611
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: in my life, the being organized is also critical. So

612
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: it's like you have to be in a relationship with it,

613
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: that's right. So I have to be in a relationship

614
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: with being organized because I couldn't do all that I

615
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: do without it. So it's not like it's not like

616
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 1: pulling me down. It's actually great, but it's something I

617
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: can't and I can't even when I talk to my

618
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: therapist about it, it cannot It can be improved, but

619
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: it cannot be intervened. It can't be. It's never gonna

620
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: I will go on to my deathbeds still being organized.

621
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: Like I'll have my coffin, We'll have labels inside of it.

622
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Can I Is that bad?

623
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't know, right, It's like work.

624
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, people people who get mixed up their coffins get

625
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 2: mixed up all the time. That's a real thing. You're

626
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: looking at my podcast studio, which is like the Pee

627
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 2: Wee's playhouse, like chaos. And I'm the same with organizing, Like,

628
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think we should have to

629
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: overpathologize everything about ourselves, like because number one, it's also

630
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: just like a hobby. People like, oh my god, you're

631
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 2: going to recopy the labels again.

632
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, there's Look, it's fiddling. I call it fiddling.

633
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: And it's true. People guard and they want to fuck

634
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: around their guarden. It's fiddling. And I like it too.

635
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: So that's a great point.

636
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 2: I found a new system. There's a new system. It's like,

637
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: you know, it's like the fact that we're still on

638
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 2: metric or whatever and everywhere, like we should update new

639
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: systems if they're not like because I went through it organizing.

640
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: I went through the wicker baskets with the and then

641
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't see my shit. So then I

642
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 2: ran through the plexiglass bag. I'm like, this is better.

643
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 2: But I'm like, wait, now there's a version with drawers

644
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: like I. Now I'm getting those like I.

645
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: It's fun, it's like gambling. It's entertainment too.

646
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also like home decore too, you know.

647
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 2: It's also there is a I think it's really important,

648
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: especially because I think people like us we always want

649
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: to grow and we want to change. And I'll look

650
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: at things that I'm like, that's okay. The I do

651
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: have a wrapping paper closet.

652
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I do too. I have I have

653
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 1: a room. I have like a candy speck amazing.

654
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: But like I was pathologically thoughtful. That's an ACA thing

655
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 2: for a while. And I gave too many gifts for

656
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 2: a long time because I didn't think I was enough.

657
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: And I had the whole like shelf of dipty candles

658
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: just in case someone came over.

659
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: When I tell you I have a gift, life. I

660
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 1: have to I started on Halloween. You have to say,

661
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: this is crazy, Like I have a gift obsession.

662
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: Me too, and I think I love it.

663
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: Though I love it, it makes me. I live for it.

664
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 2: It's how we show love. And to me, I feel

665
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 2: like because everyone always thinks I'm being sarcastic, it's hard

666
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 2: for me to be genuine with people when I'm like,

667
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: I love you, You're such a good friend, or I

668
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 2: have to make a joke or people assume it. So

669
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 2: I really like giving gifts because it's like there, it's

670
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: and also like you know, it's a nightmare out there,

671
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 2: and like a sixty eighty dollars candle. No one should

672
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 2: ever buy that for themselves, you know what I mean.

673
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 1: And it's systematic too though, but it also is satisfying,

674
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: like it costs money, you spent, you send it out,

675
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: you wrap it, you send it emphedes, it looks good.

676
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: They get it. I I live for it. I do

677
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: it all year round.

678
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: It it makes me feel My goal in life was

679
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: always to be Santa Claus. I saw Santa Claus at

680
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: the mall and when I want to be that guy,

681
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: so but then I go, okay, it can't be an

682
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: entire thing. I don't. I'm not as successful as you.

683
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 2: So I'm like, okay, I need to take this down

684
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: a little bit because this is a little bit of

685
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: a vestige. When I had way too low self esteem

686
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: and I thought I had to send a thank you

687
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: card after I got a thank you card, so let

688
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: me take So I think that updating our organization is

689
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 2: also a way of showing our growth, you know. And

690
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: so like I had this whole thing of the press

691
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: on nails section, I'm like, I don't really do that anymore.

692
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: I used to be super obsessive about my nails and

693
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 2: then I can't get anything done and then one breaks

694
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: and that's all I'm thinking about. I was like, that

695
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 2: became a weird sick addiction and obsession and perfectionism, you.

696
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 1: Know, because that's my circular reference. You have to go

697
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: get the manicure again and get it filled in, and

698
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: then you have to it's.

699
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: Me, So let me. I need to reorganize this because

700
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: this is actually a negative contribution to my future self.

701
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: So when I upgrade something mentally to get healthier, I'm

702
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: gonna have so it's not unhealthy to go. I need

703
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: to organize this again. You know, it's not pathological, it's

704
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 2: just that I we're not here, We're not in this

705
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: place anymore.

706
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: Well, everything doesn't have to be healthy. You could eat

707
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: Cheetos and you don't have to go to jail. I'm saying,

708
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: it's like not healthy, but like you're some TV shows

709
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: aren't healthy, but you're doing it. It's like it's not

710
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: a guilty pleasure, but it's something that you're doing it over.

711
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: Being overly healthy is also unhealthy.

712
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 2: Do you know about Barbara's Cheese Puffs, Barbara's.

713
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: Barbara the health brand.

714
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have cheese yes that are that are like Cheetos.

715
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,120
Speaker 2: They're delicious.

716
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: And I think all that, I think all that Calieflower too.

717
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: It's that that hippies respectfully to it's got it's a scam.

718
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: It's a scam.

719
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 2: I think.

720
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: Just eat the real thing.

721
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: H Barber's cheese puffs. What is it made of? Because

722
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: I just ordered a bunch of them, I don't know

723
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: that If it's cauliflower though.

724
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: No I know, But I'm just saying, like if you

725
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: look at a Freedo, there are three ingredients corn oil, salt,

726
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: so like that's it.

727
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: This is cornmeal, age, cheddar, pasteurized milk. Yeah, I agree

728
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 2: with you. Like the the cauliflower rice and the collie

729
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: all that shit. I'm like, I'm just gonna be hungry

730
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: in five minutes.

731
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: And it's also mixing together a bunch of other shit,

732
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: which is a different process. So that's what I think

733
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 1: about that.

734
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 2: That's a good point. That's a good point.

735
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: So the alcohol in your house, because I grew up

736
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 1: also with a mother who was an alcoholic, and there

737
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 1: are different styles. I remember each drink, like the special

738
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 1: drink phases, like what the drink order would be. But

739
00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: there are different styles. Some people they call it French type,

740
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: or they're just always having a drink and then into

741
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: the late night drinking. But it's not like a fifth

742
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: of vodka in the toilet holder behind you and the

743
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: person's like blackout. It's just like always sort of marinated.

744
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,840
Speaker 1: That was my house with combined with the cigarettes and

745
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: the bolima. What was your style in your house of

746
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: your mom like embarrassing or like what was it?

747
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: I love? I love this question, And first I'll say

748
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 2: it helped me to hear in order for alcoholism to

749
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: be present, alcohol doesn't have to be present, and that's

750
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 2: not just because alcohol is being hidden or whatever. But

751
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: there's other forms of isms, you know, compulsive behaviors and

752
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 2: stuff like that. So if someone's listening and they're like, yeah,

753
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: my life was chaotic as a kid, and I sort

754
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: of understand all this, but I never saw alcohol like

755
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 2: I was kind of the same way. You know, my

756
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: mom was a socialite. She was you know, worked at

757
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 2: apartment stores, and she always had like a glass of

758
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 2: white wine. It was like it was the white wine spritzer.

759
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: It was always like a spritzer, like it.

760
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: Died in a while. Being an alcoholic is hard.

761
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: Well. The ordering was always too apologetic, Like I look

762
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: back now, and it was like looking at the menu

763
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 2: like I would do this when I had eating disorders

764
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 2: and I was out with people, and I would go like, ah,

765
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 2: should I get? I would pretend I was being rushed,

766
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 2: you know, or couldn't make a decision. I'd be like, oh,

767
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 2: should I get the burger? Should I get the spaghetti?

768
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 2: Or you know what, I'll just have the caesar salad,

769
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: no dressing.

770
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: That's a throwaway comment.

771
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: There was like a performance to it to try to

772
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: convince people that I would have ordered the spaghetti or

773
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 2: the hamburger, but like I'll just do Caesar salad dressing

774
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: on the side.

775
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: I'll just have some of your triggering. Wow.

776
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 2: That is sar wow.

777
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: No, it's very honest, and most people with eating disorders

778
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: don't want to give it up because then they can't

779
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: go back to it because everybody knows, like once you

780
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: say it, you're saying it.

781
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 2: Now.

782
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 1: If you ever have a little of that behavior, it's

783
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: so exposed.

784
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: But also like I mean, maybe it's just because I've

785
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 2: gone through it. Like when I see someone doing it,

786
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 2: I'm I now I'm embarrassed because I'm like, I can't

787
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: believe I thought I was pulling that off. Like I

788
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: can't believe I thought that people were so dumb. I mean,

789
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: if there's a lot of people, you can kind of

790
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: get away with it, like you know I would because

791
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: my mom I always watched her if she got vegetables

792
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 2: like sauteed vegetables, if she couldn't get them steamed, she

793
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 2: would pat it with a napkin to get all the

794
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: oil off, which we now know. Like and then as

795
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 2: an adult, I would kind of like accidentally drop well,

796
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 2: when I was twenty four twenty five, I would accidentally

797
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: drop my napkin on like a Greasy's vegetables and be like,

798
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 2: oh yeah, like shit like that, like shit like that,

799
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: so that I didn't look, you know, like I wouldn't

800
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 2: eat fat, you know. But I'm also I'm in LA.

801
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: Everyone does shit like that, but I'm still doing this

802
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,840
Speaker 2: rigormarole performance to try and eat in front of people.

803
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 2: I would sit in my car and pretend I was

804
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: running late or whatever. I mean, I'd probably already eat

805
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: in like twelve protein bars, you know kind of thing.

806
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: They're like, I'm sorry, I'm late. It's fine. I'll just

807
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 2: get like a side of something, you know, in and out.

808
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Wow. And what about now, though, how's your relationship to this?

809
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 1: Pregnant is another layer.

810
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 2: Pregnant's been like, it's amazingly healing because your body's like

811
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 2: this is where you're eating today, And I'm not just

812
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 2: eating for an inner child that's metaphor, it's an actual

813
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 2: inner child. So again, the twelve step program of ACA

814
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,360
Speaker 2: really helped me with my eating stuff. I started eating

815
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 2: to live and living to eat all that inner child work,

816
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 2: you know. I just the dysmorphia really lifted around then,

817
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: especially when I started working a lot and going like, oh,

818
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: I started loving something more than hating myself, which was

819
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: stand up and performing and touring. And I just I realized,

820
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,280
Speaker 2: I have all these big goals. I can't possibly accomplish

821
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: them if I'm always distracted by food. I'm hungry. I'm

822
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: in a catatonic yugur coma. I met go to the

823
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 2: gym three times a day, going for walks four times

824
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 2: a day, counting calor. I just was like, I had

825
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: something shifted.

826
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: How old were you? Because something usually shifts. You remember

827
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: one weird thing that happened.

828
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: Around twenty six. I went into ACA and that's where

829
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: I started really helping, and I got a stand up

830
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 2: special and I was like, I am not going to

831
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: screw this up because I'm thinking about food. I am

832
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 2: not going to I am not going to screw this

833
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: up because I've drank five diet sun kiss today and

834
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: not had any protein. This is it? Like this is it?

835
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: You know? And also like I was like, all of

836
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 2: a sudden, you're in hair and makeup and stuff like that,

837
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 2: and I was like going bald. I was like my

838
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: hair was falling out.

839
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had disordered relationship to food. I never threw

840
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: threw up. I can't stand throwing up. I never I

841
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: used to binge when I would go out and I

842
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: would drink a lot, and I'd come home and binge,

843
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 1: and then I'd go on some sort of juice cleanser

844
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: fast for the next couple of days. But in my

845
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: late thirties, I remember I was going to Italy, and

846
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,240
Speaker 1: every time I had ever gone away to a trip

847
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: like that, I had always like gotten the anti pasta

848
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: or all the vegetables. Those were legal, even if they

849
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: were in ten pounds of oil. Like for me, those

850
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: were legal, Like you talk about your stuff, and I

851
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: would never touch the pasta or the payea, and then

852
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,520
Speaker 1: I would binge on it and get swollen and like

853
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: it was just like a bad ride. And I vowed

854
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 1: that I was going to Italy and I was going

855
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: to have everything. And that was when it became like

856
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: small full fat cappuccino, not torturing someone because they don't

857
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,919
Speaker 1: have skim milk, or like small gelato, and like that's

858
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: how the book Naturally Thin came to be, because it

859
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 1: became like your quote unquote diet, which is the worst word,

860
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: is a bank account, like you just if you have

861
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: a little of this, don't have that. If you're having wine,

862
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,800
Speaker 1: don't have bread. If you're having bread, don't have dessert.

863
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: And it became like have a small pasta and it

864
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 1: became so balanced and it changed my life. It just

865
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 1: sort of evolved, and it wasn't noisy, so it wasn't

866
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: ever a disorder. Really it would be moments of binging

867
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: and moments of discomfort, but it did run my life

868
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: like you were saying, it was noisy. But then one day,

869
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: just like listed because of being just a normal human being, and.

870
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: You're making me realize, like how I did this movie

871
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 2: where that was in England, the one that I was

872
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 2: on with Busy Phillips. It was called Mate of Honor.

873
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: And I didn't have all my control foods. I couldn't

874
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: go to Pink Dot on Sunset and get my Lberto

875
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: Turkey jerky. I couldn't, you know. And it was this

876
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: Aquen movies had these big budgets. It was this big

877
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: romantic comedy. Patrick Dumpsy was huge at the time. And

878
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: I really wanted to be friends with Busy Phillips and

879
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: she wanted to go to Whole Foods and get a thing,

880
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 2: and I wanted to get exactly what she was getting

881
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: so that she, you know, would think I was cool

882
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 2: or whatever, and I just to fit in on that

883
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080
Speaker 2: set and to not look crazy. And also because I

884
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 2: wasn't able to get the swissness cocoa bullshit nonsense that

885
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: I was getting here. I was eating you know it

886
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: with some bread with hummus, and then I was I

887
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: was eating I don't want to say normal, but I

888
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: was eating. I would go to Whole Foods and we'd

889
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 2: get the kale and eggs and egg salad, and you.

890
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: Were a person, actually normal person.

891
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: I actually started losing weight. I was like, wait a second.

892
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 2: All these things that I because I would drink like

893
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: three ice blendid the day, I'd have like, you know,

894
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 2: these smoothies. I'd have like Hershey chocolate shirt. Like I

895
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: was eating high sugar and like I wasn't even good

896
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: at being antirexit because it was like very hot. I

897
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: was eating these protein bars. It was like tiger milk bars,

898
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: like those are basically snickers. Now, you know.

899
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: I did the same thing at the Big Chill and West.

900
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: I used to go get the large chill also and

901
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: a container of brown rice from the Chinese place, and

902
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: I'd eat the whole big container and a giant yogurt

903
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: like versus just having a small something normal now like

904
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: ice cream, It's.

905
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 2: Okay, exactly, just have like a chicken sandwich and it's

906
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 2: going to actually be less, less calories and less sugar.

907
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 2: So so because remember back in the day, remember like

908
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 2: snack wells, like all all that shit. You know, it

909
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 2: was like low fat, high fat, low sugar is actually

910
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: you know, way better. So I stopped eating so much

911
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 2: trash process free. I was anista. Yep, I was interacting,

912
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: probably eating four thousand calories a day. I think it existent.

913
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: It was, I really really get it. Wow. Okay, So

914
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: more importantly is you put on lotion in the middle

915
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: of the night when you go to pee. Have you

916
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 1: you what's the wiping and the lotion? You're putting your

917
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: hands on your face. You just sat down to pee.

918
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 1: You haven't yet wiped.

919
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: Oh you know what's weird? I don't. Oh gosh, I

920
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 2: never even thought about so no I do. In the

921
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 2: middle of the night, I reapplied grape seed oil to

922
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,799
Speaker 2: my face because I mean, you probably sleep with a

923
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: silk pillowcase.

924
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: No, no, I don't.

925
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: Oh really, the silk pillowcase really helps because what happens is,

926
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: I mean I've just found you know that you get

927
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 2: all these amazing products, and you know, I do the

928
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: derma rolling, which is like the roller that puts like

929
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: the tiny micro needling in your face, and then I'll

930
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: put the product. Then I'll put the product on, and

931
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: then I you lay down and then you put your

932
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 2: face on your cotton pillow and it just absorbs all

933
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: of your product and all the leaches, all the oils

934
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 2: in your face and then for eight hours you're just

935
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: lying there. So I grew up half like on a farm,

936
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: and I just treat my skin the way that we

937
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 2: used to treat saddles, which is you never leave them

938
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: wet ever ever ever, you never let them out in

939
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 2: the sun, and you oil them every day like the

940
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: way because our faith is basically leather, you know, So

941
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 2: to me, I.

942
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 1: Never your face feeder.

943
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta It's like, this is what OCD

944
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: OCD really works for you. So when I get up

945
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night, you know, I've got

946
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 2: my grape seed oil and I sit on the toilet,

947
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: put on the grape seed oil and then white. So

948
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 2: I guess it is technically somewhat hygienic. I have my

949
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 2: grape seed oil pump right by my toilet in my bedroom.

950
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: So for me, there are many roads to roam. And

951
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: the micro needling thing, I never really trust that I

952
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: can do it right and I don't want to overdo it.

953
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: And people say you can break capillaries. For me, that's

954
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: just like a good exfoliation. So then the products absorb.

955
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you can do that, so I do. It's

956
00:43:59,400 --> 00:43:59,879
Speaker 2: just the role.

957
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: But is that is that a fancy one? Oh it's not,

958
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: you said micro needle.

959
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, derma roll. It's little tread. It's got

960
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: these tiny micro needles in them. But it's not like

961
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 2: going to a facialist and doing I don't get facials.

962
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 2: I don't go to patrol. They I get bored and

963
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: they I always break out after.

964
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't understand what a creepy vintage holy water

965
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 1: bottle is that you that you collect?

966
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: I just love.

967
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 1: I don't want to make you walk again. But this

968
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: is the baby is gonna come. If you give birth

969
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: on the baby, do you know how big the downloads

970
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 1: will be?

971
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 2: I mean, let's start crowning. I like vintage apocket theory

972
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: bottles this is, says mammary substance. I guess just want

973
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,439
Speaker 2: umor in it. I just I just I like them.

974
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I come from descend from witches.

975
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: I mean, do you what do you collect?

976
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: Do you have any I collect watches, I collect, okay,

977
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: back certain bags, and I'm trying to think of what else.

978
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,480
Speaker 2: I'm not there yet. Is there anything just odd that

979
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 2: you collect? Anything like it's gonna come to me chocho.

980
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: I do like I don't collect them, but I like

981
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,959
Speaker 1: snow globes. I have a decent I like certain snow globes.

982
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: We have to be very very nice ones. But I'm

983
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: gonna have to think.

984
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 2: I do like things I don't like you have like

985
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: the New York on Madison Avenue snow globe kind of thing.

986
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: I like.

987
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: I just think it's something that you can take a

988
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 1: memory with you and if you don't buy the really

989
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: cheapot ones, but sometimes the cheapo ones are fun too.

990
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: It is a good memory. And I put them in

991
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: different places throughout the house so it doesn't feel like

992
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm hoarding them, but so I make them sort of decorative. Also,

993
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: I do like snow globes. I always have it and

994
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 1: it's more in now like it came back. But I

995
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: have always liked it.

996
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: I like, I like chotchkes, and I don't have them

997
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 2: in my house is very austere for the most part,

998
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: but in here. So I did find these holy water

999
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 2: bottles on Etsy, like I love like flea markets, and

1000
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 2: so I did collect these like holy water bottles that

1001
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 2: were really beautiful. And I think it got online yet

1002
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 2: because I gave it to Kesha.

1003
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: She and oh wow, okay, well that's good.

1004
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: She needed it.

1005
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: And you carry a hammer in the car in case

1006
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: you ever see a dog or baby hopefully trapped in

1007
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: a car. You mentioned a dog, but let's add baby.

1008
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: Let's add baby.

1009
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Have you ever used it? Says it ever happened?

1010
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: I have? I have, and it was very, very embarrassing.

1011
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: Well one time, okay, so I've had to do in

1012
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 2: grocery stores a couple of times.

1013
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: You can't do it in grocery stores.

1014
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 2: You need to sorry in the in the parking lot

1015
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 2: of a grocery store. Usually you can go in and do, hey,

1016
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 2: can you make an announcement and say, whoever has the

1017
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: blue Toyota Corolla. You need to come out here and

1018
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: get your dog. Like usually in LA you can you

1019
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: know do that first, but a law has been passed

1020
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: now that it is illegal, so now I can just

1021
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: you know do it. One time I did it outside

1022
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 2: of these twelve step meetings, and I smashed this window

1023
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: to get the dog out, and it's like a it's

1024
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: like a hammer, but it also has like a glass

1025
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: cutter on the side as well. It's worth it. The

1026
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: woman have in their car anyway. And I stormed into

1027
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: one of the meetings and was like, whose car is this?

1028
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 2: Whose dog is this? That I'm like screaming, And it

1029
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: was the meeting for people I swear to God covering

1030
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 2: from parents with anger mansion, and it was like it

1031
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: was like an AA meeting is like where the person

1032
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: actually was. I just saw these people just like horrified.

1033
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, working on this right now. I'm

1034
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: glad you asked, because we're working on this passion. This

1035
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: is a planned simulation. Do you want to see how

1036
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 1: you reacted as crazy action?

1037
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 2: It like couldn't have been worse. And I never lose

1038
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: my temper like that, only around like when it involves

1039
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: children or animals, Like all bets are off, Like I

1040
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: do not care if you think I'm an asshole. I

1041
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 2: never lose my temper around shit like that. I was like,

1042
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 2: I was like doing a helicopter with a hammer. I'm like,

1043
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 2: who's got the yorkey in the page Cruiser? But did they? Do?

1044
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: They have the windows closed?

1045
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: Yes? Why?

1046
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: Like, explain to me why, Like, is someone allowed to

1047
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: have theirs if it's sixty five degrees outside? Is someone

1048
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 1: allowed to have their dog in the car if the

1049
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,760
Speaker 1: windows open?

1050
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 2: Is that allowed?

1051
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 1: Would you small?

1052
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:10,360
Speaker 2: Like?

1053
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: What's the what's the actual rule? Are there no dogs

1054
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: allowed to be in any cars no matter what windows open?

1055
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: Are closed?

1056
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 2: The window up in California? Is I believe pretty? I mean,

1057
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 2: because it's always hot here.

1058
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: And even if why would someone keep the windows up?

1059
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't even understand. Just crack the window if you,

1060
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: let's say, desperate and you don't have pet care and

1061
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: you have to go in to get a prescription and

1062
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: you're an emergency, Like, why wouldn't someone just crack the

1063
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,760
Speaker 1: window if it's like seventy five degrees? Okay, so only fans.

1064
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 1: I didn't really know what it is. And the name

1065
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: sounds really nice. It doesn't sound porny at all. And

1066
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: I was talking to Denise Richards about her being on

1067
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,360
Speaker 1: it and her daughter being on it, and she was

1068
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: kind of saying, you could do anything on there. You

1069
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,479
Speaker 1: don't have to be not wearing clothes, and she said

1070
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: you could be cooking. And I was like, oh, I

1071
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: could do my cottage cheese potato bagel program on there.

1072
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: She's like sure, and she's like, they probably prefer that

1073
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: you were like wearing laingerie. So what goes on on

1074
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,640
Speaker 1: Only Fans? And then you were on OnlyFans TV and

1075
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: it was massive for you.

1076
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: Yes, I am doing the first stand up special for

1077
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Speaker 2: OnlyFans TV. Earlier in the year, I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you remember the roasts that were on Comedy Central

1079
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Speaker 2: and you know, you know Joan Rivers and Johnald Trump,

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Speaker 2: and you know, people started getting really scared of doing

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00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: roast and I was like, you know what, I'm going

1082
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: to bring these back. Okay, let's just like elevate and

1083
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 2: be more clever and not make this bottom of the

1084
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: barrel trash roast the way it used to all be

1085
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 2: about women's appearances and men's dicks.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's actually been saying about reality television.

1087
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: I've been saying, you should explore and not exploit. And

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00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: it's not because I'm like killing the party. It's because

1089
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like all this bullshit of just trashing women.

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00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: Trashing women is not creative. You can have a good

1091
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: conflict without you know, throwing your leg on the dance floor.

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Speaker 2: It's just on original. It's like we've seen it. Like now,

1093
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 2: it's like let's pivot, let's elevate, you know. It's like,

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Speaker 2: you know, so I'm not saying, don't talk about dix

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Speaker 2: or vagina, just make it original. We've we've heard all

1096
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 2: this already, you know, Like I mean, and with Twitter

1097
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 2: and with you know, Instagram, we all as comedians have

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00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: to level up and be more clever because I mean,

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Speaker 2: I see these memes online that everyone's sharing that are hilarious,

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Speaker 2: and I'm like, a comedian didn't make that. There's a

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00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: lot of funny people out there, you know, like it's

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00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 2: not just us, like we need to make funnier than

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00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: all of this. You know. So we did want a

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Speaker 2: roast of me and then a roast of berg Kreischer.

1105
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,439
Speaker 2: We put them on OnlyFans TV. It's just of dot TV,

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Speaker 2: totally free. You don't have to put in a password.

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Speaker 2: You don't have to, you know, get charged four ninety

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Speaker 2: nine and then have some weird subscription on your credit

1109
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:35,919
Speaker 2: card for the rest of your life that you can't

1110
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Speaker 2: get rid of. You know, all of TV is doing

1111
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 2: some really interesting stuff and completely uncensored. So I wouldn't

1112
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: been able to do that at Netflix. I wouldn't have

1113
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:43,919
Speaker 2: been able to do that at Hulu. Hula's now owned

1114
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: by Disney like, so you had paid?

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00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 1: Was it because only fans wanted to start? So you

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00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 1: get paid. It's great for only fans, and it's a

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00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: great and it's a content to the people model, which

1118
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: is my entire life now. Yeah, And everybody thinks, for

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00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: some reason I would want to be on traditional television.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 2: I Well, then you can't. If you're going to be

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00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 2: on traditional television these days, you can't make fun of

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Speaker 2: the vaccine. You can't say certain things. I mean, YouTube

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00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: now will age restrict certain things. I had this huge

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Speaker 2: porn star on my podcast and it got age restricted.

1126
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 2: It got to monetize it. If you we have to

1127
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: bleep our podcast on YouTube now for the first half hour,

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Speaker 2: or you basically don't get an algorithm.

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Speaker 1: I've literally been pitched so many shows in the last

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00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: year or so, and there was I was going to

1131
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: do a show on Bravo that I backed out of

1132
00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: because what I didn't want to do. Let's talk to

1133
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 1: the suits around the table. Let's get their watered down

1134
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: ideas that the suits think that they that what they know,

1135
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: what's everyone's going to want to watch. Let's then wait

1136
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: six months to shoot it, then six months to edit it.

1137
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: Now all this store, all the day, all.

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00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 2: The jokes are stale, and that funny Ukraine joke is

1139
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: now hacky, and you look like you're not as funny

1140
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 2: as you are, and like it's not topical. And here's

1141
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,959
Speaker 2: the thing. All these suits, all these executives like look,

1142
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 2: they go into these rooms and go, oh, let's look

1143
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 2: at Bethany's new show. They think they have to talk

1144
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: as their job. Like no one is able to go

1145
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 2: like I loved it. Should we adjourn the meeting. Let's

1146
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 2: error everyone because they're like jobs, I have to go.

1147
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if I get that joke? Is she like?

1148
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: They have to overthink it as their job. They're getting

1149
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 2: paid four hundred thousand dollars a year. They think they

1150
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: have to do it to justify their existence. I remember

1151
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 2: one time I was doing a notes call with a

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00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: studio and they schedule for a TV show. They schedule

1153
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 2: the notes call to be an hour, and I'm like,

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00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 2: you guys don't even know how many notes. You haven't

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00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: read the script yet, and you already have the notes

1156
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 2: called being an hour. You just have to fill this hour.

1157
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 2: Your job is to just fill this hour, to overthink.

1158
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: Things and you really analyze data versus going as a

1159
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: gut like really, no one.

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00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: Gets promoted off of going like love it, let's air it,

1161
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 2: love it. They're like what you know? So it's it's

1162
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 2: their job to be critical and overthink things and create

1163
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: problems that aren't really there. Get it out. Let the audience.

1164
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 2: It's decide you're not the target audience. You know. That's

1165
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 2: why I love focus groups. I say, give it to

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Speaker 2: a focus group.

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Speaker 1: I rather yeah, one hundred percent. Well, you have focus

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00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: groups on social media also. People tell you they hate you,

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00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: people tell you they love it. You could figure it out.

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00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: So what's your model? Now you've done seven Netflix specials,

1171
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: what's your model? What's your relationship to doing Netflix specials

1172
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: to going out on the road like you're pregnant, you're

1173
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: having a baby, Like, what's what's the whole soup look like?

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00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: Now? I guess my big thing right now? You know,

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00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 2: it's like I really just want to make sure that

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00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 2: I'm doing specials in a lot of different places because

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00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 2: you know, it's like I did these Comedy Central specials.

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00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: I did, you know HBO specials. There's all these different

1179
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 2: people networks that ever. You know. Now my HBO specials

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00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: are on Paramount, plus my Commedy Central specials, I don't

1181
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Speaker 2: even know where those are. So I think I'm at

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00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:54,800
Speaker 2: the point where I'm kind of want to own my

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00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 2: own content so that when that works come and go,

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00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 2: at least I'm able to have it. And okay, let's

1185
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: put it on Amazon now all right, let me take

1186
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 2: it back and now I'll put it on Showtime. Okay,

1187
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 2: that's it. Now I'll put it on YouTube, like yes, however,

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00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: we actually get it to our audiences. And also it's

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00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 2: important to me that it's free, you know, like comedy

1190
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: is different than a lot of other things. It's like

1191
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 2: because you might not like it. Comedy's fashion. You know,

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00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 2: I also need we need to be able to cut

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00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 2: it up so that people can consume it on TikTok

1194
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 2: or rumble.

1195
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,880
Speaker 1: Or you need the wing, you need the broth, you

1196
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 1: need to make a bunch of different things out of

1197
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 1: the same thing. I agree.

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Speaker 2: I agree, it's gonna be a different platform in two years.

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Speaker 2: Like that's the thing about OnlyFans TV is like I

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00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 2: remember remember when Netflix first came out and they were like,

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Speaker 2: will you do a special with us? And I was like,

1202
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: is this the place that throws DVDs and envelopes at

1203
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,160
Speaker 2: your door? Like what I've always been a little bit

1204
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: When Twitter came out, I was like, ugh, I'm not

1205
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 2: going to take pictures of my smoothies like I've always

1206
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: been a little bit, Like I'm a comic. It's embarrassing

1207
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 2: to promote yourself. I'm going to go with the established.

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00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: But when you do that, you're just gonna be behind.

1209
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,919
Speaker 2: So when they're like, oh, f TV, I'm like, that's

1210
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Speaker 2: the next thing. Let me just jump on it. Even

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Speaker 2: people make fun of me, even if people don't get

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00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 2: it and they think it's a poor in site, like

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Speaker 2: I'd rather be and this is what I learned in

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Speaker 2: real estate. I'd rather be the person everyone's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: why are you moving there? And then I have the

1216
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 2: last laugh later.

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Speaker 1: But it's much easier. What you didn't realize I'm in

1218
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the same place as you. You didn't realize, is it's

1219
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 1: much easier. I used to call up any komb like

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Speaker 1: get the cameras because something is like I got my

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Speaker 1: own cameras, Like.

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Speaker 2: Get you all.

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00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: I see behind you there are two cameras in there.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be the best, best of

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Speaker 1: the best quality. So you could be performing at some

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Speaker 1: shit club and have some uncommon shoot it and ask

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Speaker 1: them can I have this content and it's yours. I

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Speaker 1: totally agree with you that that's what.

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Speaker 2: People don't know. I mean, I remember when I was

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00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,279
Speaker 2: doing you know, Two Burke Girls. You know, people would

1231
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 2: come up to me and I'm not trying to, you know,

1232
00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:43,839
Speaker 2: self aggrandize, but I'm just trying to make this point

1233
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: is they would come up to me and with tears

1234
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:46,799
Speaker 2: in their eyes, and they'd be like, two work girls

1235
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 2: change my life, and I change. I quit my horrible

1236
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 2: job and I started my own business because of you

1237
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 2: and because of watching Two Burke Girls. I've seen every

1238
00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: episode backwards and forwards, and then my question was always

1239
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: what network is it on? And they'd be like, right, ah,

1240
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: no one knows. They google Bethany Frankel new TV show

1241
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: Bethany and whatever comes up.

1242
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: It's content to the people.

1243
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 2: It's to be It's tree b, it's wee b, it's wah,

1244
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:14,840
Speaker 2: it's Hulu, it's haha, like it's always you know, Sisop

1245
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: came and went, TBS came and went. So for me,

1246
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 2: the last Netflix special I did, I paid for myself

1247
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 2: and then licensed to them this one. You know, licensing stuff.

1248
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,399
Speaker 2: I think, you know it's gonna cost It's gonna cost

1249
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: you more in the short term, but then you're actually like,

1250
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 2: I mean, there's starting to get too granular here, but

1251
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 2: like there's huge comics like Sebastian, Joe Cooy, Gabriel and Glacias.

1252
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 2: These comics that are selling out fifty thousand seed arenas.

1253
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 2: These are some of the ones that Comedy Central didn't

1254
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 2: give specials to in the beginning, and they went, oh,

1255
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 2: I got to shoot my own special. I got it

1256
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: out of pocket, spend twenty grand and shoot it myself.

1257
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 2: But they're having the last laugh because they were able

1258
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 2: to put it on Serious and Raw Dog and Spotify

1259
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 2: and they actually own their content.

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Speaker 1: Just a Sebastian Mescalco for my birthday in Atlantic City.

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00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,919
Speaker 2: The best, the best, the best.

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00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: He is really because he's got physical comedy angle. It's

1263
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 1: like the modern dice Clay got that, but he really

1264
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 1: exaggerates the gestures and it really lands, and I thought

1265
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: he was great.

1266
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,800
Speaker 2: He was great. I also love that Sebastian. I have

1267
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 2: a lot to learn from him. And sorry, sorry to

1268
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 2: keep going, but now now I also really want to

1269
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: like elevate I think that as a woman in comedy.

1270
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 2: Sorry to bring gender into it, I still believe in gender.

1271
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 2: Sorry guys, but uh, I think I'm ready to not

1272
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 2: have to lean on the like, oh look at me

1273
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: and my sneakers and hoodie and like I'm you know, a.

1274
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: Little comedy girl. You mean like that kind of thing.

1275
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just kind of like I think that, like self deprecation,

1276
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:41,400
Speaker 2: I had to do that for a long time in

1277
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: order to, you know, feel like I wasn't you know,

1278
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 2: you know, I don't have to tell you like you

1279
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 2: are way more fearless than me around this kind of stuff.

1280
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 2: But I think that on a woman, like oh, you're

1281
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: so ambitious. I've heard that a lot. You're you're so Hollywood,

1282
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 2: like you're very networky, like if you have success or

1283
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 2: try I'm like, yeah, I'm a try hard I don't

1284
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: know what to tell you. I try really hard. I

1285
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 2: want to succeed. And I look at Sebastian and I'm like,

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00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 2: this next phase is my sequin blazer phase. It's my

1287
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: bedazzled headband phase. Like I'm gonna like.

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00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing whatever the fuck I want phase.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I can be funny and unapologetic and like

1290
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: feminine and I feel like a bumpet is in my future.

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Speaker 2: I feel like like I can be more glad. I

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00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: want to move towards being a little more glamorous. I

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00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 2: don't have I don't have this narrative anymore that like

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00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 2: women won't like me if I try hard or something. Well.

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Speaker 1: When I was so growing up, I've always been into comedy.

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00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,600
Speaker 1: I remember I was a little kid when I was

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00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: watching Delirious and Raw and George Carland. I've always been

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00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: obsessed with SNL. My one dream in my life is

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00:58:46,240 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: to host SNL. It's the only dream that's unrealized. And

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00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: I had an internship at NYU that I was given SNL,

1301
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: but n y you wouldn't give me the credit so

1302
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: SNL wouldn't let me do it because at NY you

1303
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't give me the credit. And I just stopped then.

1304
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: And I was so pissed years later because knowing who

1305
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,440
Speaker 1: I am now, I would never have allowed that. I

1306
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: would have pushed through. So I've always been like comedy

1307
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 1: adjacent roast. I was on the whatever you call the

1308
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: Dais and I roasted Betty White at her like ninetieth birthday.

1309
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: At the Friarschre.

1310
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 1: So I've always dabbled. I did stand up comedy one

1311
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: night and called all the comedians that I know.

1312
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Speaker 2: One of my entertainment heroes was Dennis Robin. I know

1313
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: that's random, but I remember watching him and going, he's

1314
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 2: a I was very serious basketball player, and it was

1315
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:32,960
Speaker 2: like he's defense. This guy is putting on a show.

1316
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:37,120
Speaker 2: He is die. People are spending eighty dollars to go

1317
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 2: see a game. Most people do not, They're getting a babysitter,

1318
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 2: they're paying god knows what for parking in an NBA game,

1319
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 2: and this guy is giving them a show. He's not

1320
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 2: too cool for school. He's like, I'm gonna blue hair,

1321
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna red hair, I'm gonna wear a wedding dress

1322
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,840
Speaker 2: like and for me, I think a lot of comics

1323
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:53,600
Speaker 2: are like, I'm just gonna lean against a wall and

1324
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 2: wear my brown hoodie and I'm barely here, and I

1325
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,479
Speaker 2: like to be unapologetically. I am putting on a show

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00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 2: for you. I want to entertain you. I want to

1327
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 2: give you the best night of your life.

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01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,000
Speaker 1: I love that.

1329
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: I love that.

1330
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: I know it's so sure you have your opportunity up

1331
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 1: on stage, so go all in. That is absolutely true.

1332
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: It's funny because I never knew really who Travis Kelsey was,

1333
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: but watching a lot of his footage of him dancing

1334
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: on the field, like, people want to see that great.

1335
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 2: And also, no one's mad at you if you shine

1336
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: to bright, and if they are, that's their problem. That's

1337
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:28,480
Speaker 2: me and my mom. Shit, I think my mom was

1338
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 2: kind of like weirdly jealous of her kids, or like competitive,

1339
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 2: or maybe the scarcity complex. If I wanted female comics

1340
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 2: to like me and not think that I who knows,

1341
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 2: who gives a shit?

1342
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 1: That's good too, Yeah, because other comments you don't like,

1343
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: what the hell is she doing?

1344
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 2: I don't know? Yeah, why is she wearing bee Dazzled?

1345
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 2: I get these Betsy Johnson I have a collection of

1346
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,720
Speaker 2: be dazzled boots in every color, and I'm like, there's

1347
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: no more apologetic who me like in front of ten

1348
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 2: thousand people. Let's just like, all, if you want to

1349
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 2: wear that crazy thing, wear that crazy let's all just

1350
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,560
Speaker 2: go start wearing capes like Joan Rivers did and Feather

1351
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 2: BoA's the way philas Diller did, who cares like We're dying.

1352
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: Well, I feel not fraudulent, but I've always wanted to

1353
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: do stand up and I did do it the one time,

1354
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: three minutes at the night you call out to you,

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01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: and I feel when you say like, oh, you go

1356
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: get it, you go do it. I guess I feel

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01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: fraudulent in the sense that I have never really didn't

1358
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,520
Speaker 1: really go down that road because I went to the groundings,

1359
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,400
Speaker 1: I took classes at Second City, Like I've always flirted

1360
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,440
Speaker 1: with it. But I think my cop out is that

1361
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: when I do speaking engagements or appearances or on my podcast,

1362
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 1: I get to insert it. But it is different. Like

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01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 1: I watched David Spain on TikTok. It's the funniest thing

1364
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: you've ever seen because he's doing different stand up jokes

1365
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: all day, giving him away for free and I feel like,

1366
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: but he still goes on the road and really exercises

1367
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: the muscle, so I give you a lot of credit.

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01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: Also, I'm very jealous because you and Denise Richards did

1369
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 2: a part two. I'm sorry I have to do another thing,

1370
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: but let's do it if you ever, but if you

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01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 2: ever want to, I love talking to you and I

1372
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: want you to come on my kit if you will

1373
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 2: want to toot we do. We do have to get

1374
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 2: into our feud about the Hamptons.

1375
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you talked about it on Kelly and Mark.

1376
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: All right, go have a baby. So nice to talk

1377
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: to you. It was really amazing and I'm so grateful

1378
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,560
Speaker 1: and it was more than I thought it was going

1379
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 1: to be, which I thought a lot. So yay, I

1380
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: love you.

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01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna text you you have a good day.

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01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 2: Thanks for having me. Bye.

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01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: Well that was we couldn't launch. We couldn't like launch

1384
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 1: the rocket or the plane couldn't take off because I

1385
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 1: had so much to say before even starting to talk,

1386
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 1: which is what was amazing. The foreplay was as good

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01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,320
Speaker 1: as the main act. She's awesome. Wow was that? I

1388
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: mean I think that was my favorite and a long time.

1389
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: And that's the only person that I could really say

1390
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: that I've had on that would be amazing on a

1391
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: podcast with me like that was beyond and as a

1392
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: matter of fact, because I'm still a scaredy cat, maybe

1393
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: on her show, I'll do ten minutes with her, like

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01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: just sitting fucking riff for ten minutes with her.