WEBVTT - Ep. 25: Bats, Tonsils, and Other Catfishing Necessities

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<v Speaker 1>They wear an electric filet knife on their belt daily

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<v Speaker 1>in case impromptu cleaning of a hundred soccer lot pops up.

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<v Speaker 1>Hashtag get psyched, hashtag you can do this hashtag Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>I once saw a hippo chase a thirty foot double

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<v Speaker 1>decker cruise boat and and the boat blinked first. And

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<v Speaker 1>my personal favorite, the bomat fish whisper floating fish building.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, degenerate anglers, Welcome to band, your trusted source

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<v Speaker 1>for all the latest greatest sense attractings, fish oils, holy waters,

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<v Speaker 1>and chum to dress your favorite mayfly parachutes. I'm Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Surmelim Miles Nulty, and I never fish, at least I

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<v Speaker 1>never fished dry flies anyway without first dunking them in

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<v Speaker 1>a vial of holy water. It's the only way I

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<v Speaker 1>can expire confidence in my technical trout fishing game. Listen, man,

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<v Speaker 1>my my mom. Never without holy water my top. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>do my entire life. There's been a vial or two

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<v Speaker 1>in the linen closet, like in case someone's new car

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<v Speaker 1>needs to be blessed. I'm okay, I'm not for protection.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, And like she's not overly religious either, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's always and like I'm not kidding, Like she'll come

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<v Speaker 1>out and it's like, sprinkle it on the tires, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you got a new truck, sprinkles on holy water on

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<v Speaker 1>the tires. That's an We don't have any of that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ritual. You don't know what to say. You're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's great. I think that's fast. Like I genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>wish we had something like that where we believed enough

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<v Speaker 1>and something we'd be like, yes, I was making a

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<v Speaker 1>joke about holy water and dry plis. You're like, no, No,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a thing, dude. Next time you have a sore throat,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have her ship goes away, got covid holy water?

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<v Speaker 1>Slug it. Anyway, Look, we all have we all have rituals, right. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>It's another one of those things that seems to unite

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<v Speaker 1>all anglers. And we may not all have the same superstitions,

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<v Speaker 1>but we anglers all seem to cling to some form

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<v Speaker 1>of personal faith or another. And I have to ask, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you have a particular you have a thing you

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<v Speaker 1>do or don't do when you go fishing? Uh? You

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<v Speaker 1>know I did, Like when I was younger, I definitely did,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I had a lot of those things, and and

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<v Speaker 1>I think primarily from what I remember, I was all

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<v Speaker 1>about the lucky apparel, you know, like I had my

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<v Speaker 1>lucky hat, I had lucky socks, I had a lucky shirt. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I would change the combinations depending on

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<v Speaker 1>what I felt like I needed that day. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember pants, underwear, shoes having any special mysticism, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why, but like all other articles of clothing,

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<v Speaker 1>we're fair game. And they were they were important, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were specific, and they had like certain things that

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<v Speaker 1>I did for them. I actually had a lucky pin

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<v Speaker 1>that I would wear and don't have since given to

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<v Speaker 1>my son. But anyway, these days, it's not so much

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<v Speaker 1>what I wear. It's like it's it's interior, like I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta get my head right. Yeah, no, it is. It

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<v Speaker 1>is like that sounds stupid, but it's no, Like I

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<v Speaker 1>really feel like like I need to find a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of confidence and certainty that like I'm gonna catch a

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<v Speaker 1>fish and and on those days that are long and

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<v Speaker 1>slow and I'm just like not feeling it or I'm struggling,

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<v Speaker 1>and and if if I get the sense that that

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<v Speaker 1>that confidence is wavering, I will stop fishing and I'll

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<v Speaker 1>like take a couple of minutes and get myself together

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<v Speaker 1>and try and find that sense of confidence. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's these days. I think that's as close as

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<v Speaker 1>I get to having having a ritual or superstition, is

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<v Speaker 1>that I gotta have my head right. Yeah, No, I

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<v Speaker 1>identify with that. I do that all the time. You

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<v Speaker 1>just have to stop and pause and like collect yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and figure out why you're fishing. Like ship Um, it

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<v Speaker 1>happens too often, a matter of fact. But I used

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<v Speaker 1>to have I used to have a lucky Adida's hat. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I wore it for years, right, and then I lost

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<v Speaker 1>it in a Ruba. But I still kept catching a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of fish on that trip after I lost it,

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<v Speaker 1>So then I never bothered with another lucky fishing hat.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, f the lucky fishing hat apparently wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>that lucky. So I don't know, I'm gonna cut you off.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, but I like, you just reminded me of

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<v Speaker 1>something because my last lucky fishing hat and this is

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<v Speaker 1>super geeky and we'll say something about me, But it

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<v Speaker 1>was like my my Little League All Stars hat that

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<v Speaker 1>I held on too until it and it finally disintegrated.

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<v Speaker 1>I found in my mom's house a few years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and had it had come apart, it was done. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this Adida's hat was like it needed to be burned

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<v Speaker 1>or thrown out regard. I mean it was literally it

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<v Speaker 1>was disgusting. I mean it was like brown from years

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<v Speaker 1>of sweat. But I thought it was lucky. And now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't do lucky clothes anymore. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do good luck charms. However, I do firmly believe. How

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<v Speaker 1>do I say that getting lucky the night before a

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<v Speaker 1>fishing trip makes you luckier the next day? I have

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<v Speaker 1>not expected I like this idea, I might have to adopt.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus I like it, okay, But if you like that,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the other here's the other part of it, and

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<v Speaker 1>don't ask me where this all comes from. I also

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<v Speaker 1>believe that pleasuring yourself the night before a trip is

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<v Speaker 1>the kiss of death. Really, and now that that's been said,

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<v Speaker 1>many people, including you, might hate me because you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>adhere to it, and you're thinking, well, I don't buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>But just in case he's right, What if he's right,

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<v Speaker 1>what if I'm so sorry, I'm gonna have to think

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<v Speaker 1>about that you brought up superstitions, so that's just that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's anyway. A lot of us we adhere to very

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<v Speaker 1>specific superstitions. Of course, we'll get off the pleasure of

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<v Speaker 1>yourself and go to the banana thing. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Well it's kind of the same. But the

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<v Speaker 1>banana thing, um, you know that's it's bad luck to

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<v Speaker 1>bring bananas on the boat. That's probably the biggest overarching one. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that that. I'd say that. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the most common fishing superstition, right, like it's bad luck

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<v Speaker 1>to bring bananas on a boat. That bad luck to

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<v Speaker 1>bring banana's fishing, And people get super super heated about that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I know guides and chartered like a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>guys and chartered captains who will lose their minds when

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<v Speaker 1>someone brings a banana on their boat. Yeah, so do

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<v Speaker 1>I to the point where I almost find it obnoxious,

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<v Speaker 1>Like not the belief per se. If you believe that,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine. But I know a handful of guys like

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<v Speaker 1>their their their boats and trucks are like slathered with

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<v Speaker 1>those no banana stickers with with a slash through them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, come, on that's not that's like a

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<v Speaker 1>salt life sticker, Like you really need that on your boat,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. But um, there are some captains that will

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<v Speaker 1>go so far as to demand their clients throw anything

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<v Speaker 1>even banana related overboard. I've seen it. I've seen dudes

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<v Speaker 1>throw banana boats, sunscreen off the boat. They don't like

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<v Speaker 1>Banana Republic shirts. Um. Then I have my personal favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there there's a whole legend about slicing the tags

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<v Speaker 1>off Fruit of the Loom underwear. Never mind the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Fruit of the Loom does not now, nor has

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<v Speaker 1>it ever, had a banana on any of its tags. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>And I got so deep into that I actually wrote

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<v Speaker 1>about it. There's a whole story about it. You can

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<v Speaker 1>check out. It's a bar room banner piece on the

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<v Speaker 1>metator dot com. It's called Fishing Superstition, Change your underpants Forever.

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<v Speaker 1>That is seriously, go read that one. It's a deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive and a head. It's a really deep dive. And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I knew all there was to know about

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<v Speaker 1>this whole bananas and fishing and boats thing, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you wrote that article and I was like, Oh, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot I don't know. But what you don't cover

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<v Speaker 1>in that one, and understandably so, because it's been covered.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the real backstory and why bananas on boats are

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<v Speaker 1>ad luck? Right and and and the truth of that

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<v Speaker 1>is that that nobody really knows, Like there's no definitive answer.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few different ones, right like so, so

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<v Speaker 1>most people think it has something to do with the

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<v Speaker 1>banana boats of the seventeen hundreds that used to that

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<v Speaker 1>that were that they were carrying the fruit from the

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<v Speaker 1>Caribbean islands up to the mainland of North America and

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<v Speaker 1>even Europe. And some people say that boats carrying various

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<v Speaker 1>like varied fruit cargo would spoil if they had bananas

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<v Speaker 1>on board, And so sailors began to assume that bananas

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<v Speaker 1>were bad luck, because this is before people understood, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole ethylene gas thing that bananas give off, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually does make fruit spoil. They're like, it's the bananas

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<v Speaker 1>are bad luck. No, it's science. But there's another story

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<v Speaker 1>that sailors would actually slip on the banana peels and

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<v Speaker 1>hurt themselves like a freaking cartoon, which I don't buy.

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<v Speaker 1>There's like this whole host of theories out there. If

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<v Speaker 1>you really want to get into this. But the one

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<v Speaker 1>that I like best, the one that I've always told people, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>is that banana bunches. Back then, the big into bananas

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<v Speaker 1>would carry venomous spiders that were hidden in the nooks

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<v Speaker 1>and crannies, and like at night, those spiders would would

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<v Speaker 1>crawl out and bite the crew in their sleep and

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<v Speaker 1>kill them. Also, so other ships would come upon these

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<v Speaker 1>banana boats just drifting at sea with the whole crew dead.

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<v Speaker 1>That's always been my favorite explanation to And it's a

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<v Speaker 1>creepy image, isn't It's very hard. It's very creepy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like that one. So there you go, Uh, do

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<v Speaker 1>with that info what you will. But just remember that

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<v Speaker 1>some people take the banana thing dead serious and it

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really could be worse as far as

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<v Speaker 1>universal fishing beliefs go. Um, that one's it's pretty innocuous, really.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we could all believe in in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>blood sacrifices to improve your fishing luck. We're not quite there,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just all I could picture right now is

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<v Speaker 1>Major League and getting Joe Boo with chicken. Uh. And

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<v Speaker 1>that would be much messier, you know, that would be

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<v Speaker 1>if like if if captains were like, we're not catching anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Something's gotta die. That would be I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>give fishing a really bad name. Speaking of blood sacrifices,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe is going to open you up to the history

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<v Speaker 1>of a term for a piece of fishing gear that's

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<v Speaker 1>not as common as it once was. Webster's Dictionary defines

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<v Speaker 1>fish as this week's word is priest. And I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Father Guido Sarducci here, nor Father Caress and

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<v Speaker 1>Father Marin, though you could say the priests were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about exercise the spirits out of fish, and very rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>and humanely at that, minus all the pea soup and

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<v Speaker 1>cuss words. A priest is a small bat, usually shorter

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<v Speaker 1>than a night stick, though they come in many different sizes,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're crafted specifically for dispatching a fish with a

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<v Speaker 1>sharp blow to the head. It's called a priest to

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<v Speaker 1>play on the notion that it's giving a catch its

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<v Speaker 1>last rites. Now, if this sounds like some backwoods tool

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<v Speaker 1>whittled in an Appalachian holler, you could not be more wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>The priest's origins date back many centuries to Europe, where

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<v Speaker 1>were as common and necessary a piece of on the

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<v Speaker 1>water kit, as your fish brain app and line cutters

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<v Speaker 1>ring are today. Furthermore, priests were handed down through generations,

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<v Speaker 1>held in the same regard you might hold a knife

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<v Speaker 1>made in a local forge by an expert bladesmith. In

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<v Speaker 1>many upper class angling circles in Britain and Scotland and France,

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<v Speaker 1>fine handmade priests were presented as gifts. But even if

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<v Speaker 1>you were poor, if you fished, you probably made yourself

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<v Speaker 1>a trustee priest. So how do I know all this? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, I own a book called A

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<v Speaker 1>Collection of Fishing Priests by British author Dave Watson. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not a very fat book, in fact, it's more like

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<v Speaker 1>a magazine. And when I received an unsolicited complimentary copy

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, I said to myself, who the hell writes

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<v Speaker 1>a book about fishing priests? Now here we are today,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're thanking me for being such a hoarder. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I spent forty seven minutes digging around in my frigid

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<v Speaker 1>attic to find this book. That's how much I love you,

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<v Speaker 1>guys and way. Traditional priests were made from a wide

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<v Speaker 1>variety of woods, including walnut, rosewood, boxwood, and maple. But

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most popular woods was Lignum vita. Lignum vita,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as guayacon, is actually the national tree of

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<v Speaker 1>the Bahamas. It only grows in the Caribbean and was

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<v Speaker 1>exported like crazy to Europe starting in the early sixteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Lignum vita makes a superb priest because it's incredibly strong, hard,

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<v Speaker 1>and dense. In fact, Europeans used Lignum vita for so

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<v Speaker 1>much that these days it's actually classified as an endangered

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<v Speaker 1>flora now similar to knife making, old school priests featured

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<v Speaker 1>all kinds of unique embellishments and personal touches, such as

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<v Speaker 1>brass heads and pewter bands. Some of the most extravagant

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<v Speaker 1>priests in Watson's book, which date back well before the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds, are made of scrimshawled elephant and narwhal ivory

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<v Speaker 1>and barren initials and royal crests. Now, if you're wondering

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<v Speaker 1>when this whole priest thing died off over there and

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<v Speaker 1>they got with the catch and release program, they kind

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<v Speaker 1>of haven't. In fact, Hardy still manufactures trout priests today,

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<v Speaker 1>except they have chrome plated brass thumping heads and e

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<v Speaker 1>v a foam grip and an analyzed aluminum handle. Those

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<v Speaker 1>barbarians right wrong. The fact of the matter is the

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<v Speaker 1>priest stems from what many would call a smarter and

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps even classier angling ethic than we have in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Even today. There are many European trout and salmon fisheries,

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<v Speaker 1>including within Germany's Black Forest, where our beloved brown trout

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<v Speaker 1>came from, where catch and release angling is strictly forbidden

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<v Speaker 1>in the mind of the Brits and many other European countries.

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<v Speaker 1>You do more to protect the fish by making it

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<v Speaker 1>mandatory to kill your first one or two and stop fishing,

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<v Speaker 1>instead of fighting and releasing say twenty fish in a day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was, and in many cases still is the norm

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<v Speaker 1>to simply catch you a salmin or two, give him

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<v Speaker 1>a quick bonk with your priest, and walk away back

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<v Speaker 1>to the cottage to enjoy your fresh catch and not

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<v Speaker 1>molest anymore fish that day. But that's just not how

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<v Speaker 1>things are done here, which is why we don't carry

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<v Speaker 1>priests on trout streams. Now you can buy them here,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just not called priests. We have uber American versions,

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<v Speaker 1>such as the offshore angler aluminum fish bat the West

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<v Speaker 1>Coast Thumpers, fish Bonker, and my personal favorite, the Bomack

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<v Speaker 1>Fish Whisper floating fish Billy. Most of these can be

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<v Speaker 1>purchased through bass pro shops or Cabella's. None of them

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<v Speaker 1>are what i'd call heirloom quality. I love that one, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that was That was I'm glad you pick that one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a good choice. You know, when when I

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<v Speaker 1>was when I was a salmon guide, I actually made

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<v Speaker 1>my own priest out of a chunk of caribou antler

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<v Speaker 1>that I found in the tundra. And like there was

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<v Speaker 1>a there was a bench grinder at the shop at

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<v Speaker 1>the camp, and I cut it down to this perfect

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<v Speaker 1>fish beating size and I would tuck it in my

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<v Speaker 1>waiter belt and carry around. And I was I was

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<v Speaker 1>a confident that it made me look like a badass.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm, that's neat. I'm sure you did. Cool. Cool story. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And since we're on the subject of people thinking they

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<v Speaker 1>look badass, let's let's take a look at an awkward

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<v Speaker 1>moment in angling, but a picture. This week's awkward moment

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<v Speaker 1>angling comes to us from Alex read and and and

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<v Speaker 1>quick warning, Uh, we're about to make fun of a

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<v Speaker 1>small child and and there was one thing when we

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<v Speaker 1>were making fun of childhood, fishing photos of each other.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't actually know this dude, Like, do you

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<v Speaker 1>know is this someone you know? Because sometimes we've done pictures. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know. No, No, I if it's a buddy

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<v Speaker 1>of mine, I'll shout it out. Alex, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>know you. So this is just some random kid. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I I struggle. I'm struggling with this one. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm searching my conscience. Well, like, why am I the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of person who's gonna insult a young boy? It

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he's like seven or eight years old. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh god, I gotta know. I'm gonna I gotta, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta interrupt your melodrama here because we can just get

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<v Speaker 1>on with it. First of all, yes, we are the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of people who will tease small children, who amuse

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves and others. But the point we have to make

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<v Speaker 1>here is, um, the child is Alex, who is now

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<v Speaker 1>a grown ass man, who sent us what he referred

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<v Speaker 1>to as a This is like a family classic, right,

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<v Speaker 1>This is like the one that the family goes back to.

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<v Speaker 1>He sent this to us and asked us to make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of it. So it's okay, it's all right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we're okay, we're good. Fine, Yes, I was. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just I was working through it. I was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>like figure out if it was okay with me. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you. You're taking a really long time. Nobody cares,

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<v Speaker 1>nobody cares about what, No, nobody cares. Okay, we're doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get to this photo. Okay, the year is

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<v Speaker 1>and I know this because this photo comes with that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's from that era when the date in the picture

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<v Speaker 1>was just automatic, clear like digitally stamped, the orange digitized

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the bottom left corner of the photo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like it looked like like a like a digital clock. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's that same kind of kind of tight. There are

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<v Speaker 1>some young people who are probably because I remember you

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<v Speaker 1>could you could turn that off in some cameras, but

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<v Speaker 1>like my mom could never figure out how. So all

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<v Speaker 1>of our photos, like in all the albums from that

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<v Speaker 1>certain era there with the bright orange date stamp. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>in this shot, young Alex stands proudly in his mismatched

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<v Speaker 1>camo T shirt and hat, miniature work boots and jeans,

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<v Speaker 1>like he's just finished a day of a legal child

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<v Speaker 1>labor sweeping floors at the local steel mill or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. Oh man, we're digging a new load. And

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I'm gonna keep going after after that day

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<v Speaker 1>of under the table less than minimum age work, it

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<v Speaker 1>appears Alex blew off some steam at a local pond.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things that catches my eye about

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<v Speaker 1>this photo is the Roddy's holding right. It's it's It

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<v Speaker 1>does have that closed faced zeb Coo style reel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the one that's that comes standard on your your Spiderman

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<v Speaker 1>Walmart fishing outfit that all kids get. And and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that rod you use it to like it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't do anything but catch little dinker pan fish or

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<v Speaker 1>stalker trout. That's what that rod is for. But this

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<v Speaker 1>rod that Alex holding is not that rod. This road

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<v Speaker 1>has serious backbone like that. I know you're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>That thing could handle like a big bass or a

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<v Speaker 1>respectable catfish. It's got it's got some serious stubt to it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed the same thing, and it People who might

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<v Speaker 1>not realize this, You like associate clothes, you know, push

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<v Speaker 1>button roos with little kid rods, but they actually make

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<v Speaker 1>giant ones like zeb coo, like there are people out

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<v Speaker 1>there who prefer that for their cat fishing, like grown people.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's this That's what this rod looks like

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<v Speaker 1>to me, like a grown person's push button catfish set up. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and see, I don't think this was not Alex's first

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<v Speaker 1>fishing rod. And in fact, the rod itself it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good two ft taller than little Alex shot. And he

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<v Speaker 1>would have had to have been like a pretty skilled

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<v Speaker 1>kid to cast that thing, and also like a serious

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<v Speaker 1>danger to anyone standing within his six foot radius right

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<v Speaker 1>for at for a little a little kid plinging that

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<v Speaker 1>thing around, and I'd I'd be scared. And Alex's mom

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<v Speaker 1>or dad or whoever took him fishing was either very brave,

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<v Speaker 1>very quick, or just not that smart. But whatever that

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<v Speaker 1>fishing mentor may have lacked in self preservation, they definitely

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<v Speaker 1>made up for in fishing knowledge. Because dangling from the

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<v Speaker 1>end of that line is just an absolute slab, total slab,

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<v Speaker 1>total slab. It's it's the things eight inches minimum, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>over ten. And Alex hadn't yet learned the art of

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<v Speaker 1>extending his arms out away from his body to make

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<v Speaker 1>it like look even more impressive. But even though he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know how to do that. It still looks big

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<v Speaker 1>freaking huge bluegull. It does. And I got one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot figure out is where this picture was taken. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so Alex is standing on on paving stones in front

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<v Speaker 1>of some some wood lattice, and it looks like he's

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<v Speaker 1>in front of a house, not on a dock or

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<v Speaker 1>at the edge of the water. But the fish is

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<v Speaker 1>still hooked. So either this house borders a body of water,

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<v Speaker 1>or they went fishing, they came home, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>reattached the fish to the hook to stage the photo. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I see, I don't think. I don't think this is

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<v Speaker 1>stage because at Alex's feet right you could you could

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<v Speaker 1>see a pile of maybe ten other fish, most of

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<v Speaker 1>which are also stud bluegills, but a couple look like

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<v Speaker 1>pretty decent bass, large amounts. Right. So, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>a kid and you can either pose with a tenant's

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<v Speaker 1>blueboat or a two pound bass, come on, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>you're picking. You're picking the bass every day, or you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna put all the fish on a stringer and hold

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<v Speaker 1>them all up together like you think they were. They

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<v Speaker 1>were going to pose it. They would do the full

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<v Speaker 1>stringer shot as well, Yeah, yeah, exactly, why not? All right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good point, But I'm still I'm still not

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<v Speaker 1>convinced because it seems to me like like those fish,

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<v Speaker 1>the ones you're talking about, it looks like they just

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<v Speaker 1>got dumped out of a bucket right there, just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of laying in this in this, in this pile, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's this puddle that's spreading across the paving stones. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I think a bucket drop happened right there. That

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<v Speaker 1>could be the case, or or maybe that puddle has

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<v Speaker 1>another source, because if you focus just slightly north of

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<v Speaker 1>that impressive spread of fish and look closely at Alex's jeanes,

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<v Speaker 1>you will notice that he quite recently or perhaps it's

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<v Speaker 1>still in the process of pissing his pants. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the clincher. Oh, it's true. It's true, dude. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when you first sent me this picture, I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one of those when you see it, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>when you see it's like, what do you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would we make fun of this kid holding all

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<v Speaker 1>these sweet fish? And then uh, and then I realized

0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:03.680
<v Speaker 1>he had um treated himself. I got I got it

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<v Speaker 1>from the big Lebowski. I gotta say, though, the best

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<v Speaker 1>part for me is the look on his face, because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that kid's feeling any shame, noever. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's just like none zero. He's He's staring straight

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<v Speaker 1>into that camera with a self satisfied grand like almost

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<v Speaker 1>in defiance, Like I pissed my pants. I also roped

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<v Speaker 1>a pile hog fish today and that's that's dedication. Damn it. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of sad we used the Billy Madison pants

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<v Speaker 1>being clipped last week because I could have doubled up complain.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm also realizing we've run two pants being stories two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks in a row. Uh, and that says something about

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<v Speaker 1>our level of maturity. But this one was too good.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to We had to do this one. It

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<v Speaker 1>does It does say something about our level maturity, but

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<v Speaker 1>it definitely says something about Alex's general sense of self confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>First that he posed for this photo and second that

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<v Speaker 1>he proudly sent it to us to be publicly called out.

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<v Speaker 1>So thank you, Alex. Glad we got to share this

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<v Speaker 1>family classic here. If you want to see this glorious

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<v Speaker 1>photo for yourself, go check out me or Miles Instagram accounts.

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<v Speaker 1>That's at water Miles and at Joe dot Surmelie one

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<v Speaker 1>three eight. Thank you Alex for proffering yourself at the

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<v Speaker 1>bent Alter ridicule. If you have an awkward fishing photo

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<v Speaker 1>that you'd like to offer up for consideration, please send

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<v Speaker 1>it to bent at the meat eater dot com. Your

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifices benefit the good of us all indeed they do,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna continue benefiting the greater good right now

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<v Speaker 1>because it's time for fish news. Fish news that escalated quickly,

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<v Speaker 1>all right this week. Before we kickoff news, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>to give a shout out to listener Eric Rude today

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<v Speaker 1>because this has got to be one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>whacked out things I have I have ever heard. All Right, now,

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<v Speaker 1>do you remember you remember a while back we did

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<v Speaker 1>that news story on odd bits, Remember that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we asked our fine listeners to please let us know

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<v Speaker 1>the weirdest thing maybe they've ever used his bait, righte

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<v Speaker 1>and we we've gotten some, but there haven't been any

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<v Speaker 1>that I was like, oh, I never thought of that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's been stuff like cigarette butts and and

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<v Speaker 1>things like y yeah, yeah, yeah, forget all those because

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<v Speaker 1>this is the this is the this is the ender

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<v Speaker 1>right here. Okay, So Eric got hit me up on Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>right and he wrote, when I was eleven, I had

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<v Speaker 1>my tonsils taken out and asked the doc if I

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<v Speaker 1>could have them. No, he looked at my mother and

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<v Speaker 1>she said he's his father's child, but go ahead. I

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<v Speaker 1>later took said tonsils out and caught a couple channel

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<v Speaker 1>cats on them in a local creek. Now I had

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<v Speaker 1>the same look on my face you do right now

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<v Speaker 1>when I read this, And of course I was like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>is this real? Are you serious? This really happened? And

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, full scouts on her man. I caught channel

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<v Speaker 1>cats on my top consols and then Eric and then

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<v Speaker 1>Eric also pointed out that if any of you recall

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<v Speaker 1>the photo that ran on the Meat Eat or insta

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<v Speaker 1>page of a guy that shot himself in the army,

0:24:09.000 --> 0:24:10.760
<v Speaker 1>he was shot in the arm with a crossbow. That

0:24:10.880 --> 0:24:14.639
<v Speaker 1>was him, crossbow bolt and arm guy was also Eric Rude,

0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>who used his tonsils for catfish. Eric, you have led

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:23.440
<v Speaker 1>an interest in life. So I was like, I I

0:24:23.520 --> 0:24:25.880
<v Speaker 1>have to I I mean, I believe him. He said

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<v Speaker 1>he wishes the catfish he caught were bigger there's no photos,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently the tonsils did not yield very big bait pieces.

0:24:31.880 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess in eleven year olds tonsils are like not

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.080
<v Speaker 1>our kind of still those are not big chunks of meat.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are I can see that the creativity, man I do.

0:24:42.800 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm just thinking it through. I'm like, what else is?

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 1>What else could be done with that? I'm gonna leave

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<v Speaker 1>it alone, though, Well, I think I think one of

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the funniest aspects if that was me and I had

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<v Speaker 1>my tonsils out and ask keep my mom would be

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.040
<v Speaker 1>like you out of your mind? Absolutely not. It's ridiculous,

0:24:57.040 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>Like my mom wouldn't have let me, let me keep

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<v Speaker 1>my tonsils? Um, I don't. I don't know what my

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.720
<v Speaker 1>mom would have done that. I'm trying to think it through.

0:25:03.760 --> 0:25:05.000
<v Speaker 1>I think she would have looked at me with the

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<v Speaker 1>look that I've got on my face right now, like

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:11.399
<v Speaker 1>what why? What do you part? Was in a glad bag?

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:13.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you wrap them in gauze? Like? How do you

0:25:13.359 --> 0:25:15.800
<v Speaker 1>get this home? Were they in the freezer for a time?

0:25:16.040 --> 0:25:20.280
<v Speaker 1>With them? There were piece they had to have been anyway, Eric,

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that was that was trippy man um alright, So I think, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that concludes shoutouts this week unless you have anything. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna reserve my time for for my news stories because

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.000
<v Speaker 1>I got I got to to run a little long

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<v Speaker 1>this week, so time okay, all right, then we can

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<v Speaker 1>we can move on here to the real and actual,

0:25:37.680 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 1>at least sort of news. And remember this is a competition,

0:25:41.000 --> 0:25:43.399
<v Speaker 1>Miles and I do not know which news stories the

0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:47.080
<v Speaker 1>other guy found. At the end of this the Magnificent

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.359
<v Speaker 1>Phil with his sidekick PS five, will weigh in and

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>declare a winner. And as soon as he's done, we're

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna hear from all y'all's favorite. Mr Lance V. You

0:25:55.560 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>have the floor. You are up big in excellent light,

0:25:59.480 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gon kick off with you kind of. You

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 1>kind of set me up with that idea of pseudo

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>news because the story that I'm gonna talk about has

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:10.879
<v Speaker 1>gotten some decent coverage already in other news sources, but

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 1>really as pseudo news, and I'm gonna try and try

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and shoehorned into something valid. I'm gonna and focus on

0:26:17.000 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>fish and fisheries. So you may have heard about the

0:26:20.800 --> 0:26:26.080
<v Speaker 1>invasive hippos in Colombia? Right? Did you catch this one?

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:30.080
<v Speaker 1>You know? I I remember a jingling of that that, well,

0:26:30.240 --> 0:26:33.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm very not well versed in the invasive hippo, so

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<v Speaker 1>to get to give to give some basic context here

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<v Speaker 1>for those who aren't really paying attention yet. Hippo's native

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<v Speaker 1>to Africa, not South America, right and and and they

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:50.439
<v Speaker 1>got there thanks to the infamous drug kingpin Pablo Escobar.

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.879
<v Speaker 1>So Escobar created his own kind of like Noah's Ark

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<v Speaker 1>at his estate with exotic animals from all over the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and then after his death in the columb In government

0:27:00.640 --> 0:27:03.719
<v Speaker 1>took over the place and the vast majority of all

0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:08.440
<v Speaker 1>those animals got relocated as zoos, but the four hippopotamuses

0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>were allowed to remain, mostly because capturing and transporting them

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 1>would have been like really difficult and expensive and dangerous.

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:18.800
<v Speaker 1>They're just like, leave the hippos. They're they're fine, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>So over the past few decades, those hippos have thrived,

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<v Speaker 1>and now from the original four, they're an estimated eighty

0:27:26.880 --> 0:27:31.200
<v Speaker 1>to a hundred of them, and they're no longer confined

0:27:31.960 --> 0:27:37.760
<v Speaker 1>to the ponds former property Escobar's drive through a safari

0:27:38.040 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>they got out. At least half the population has relocated

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:46.359
<v Speaker 1>to the Magdalena, Columbia's largest and most productive river. The

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Magdalena runs the length of the western side of the country,

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and and that's that's the populated side, Like that's where

0:27:51.160 --> 0:27:55.520
<v Speaker 1>all the major cities and towns and people it's it's

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 1>basically it's like the Mississippi Columbia's it's their primary river,

0:27:58.920 --> 0:28:02.439
<v Speaker 1>and it hosts a a pretty broad diversity of native fauna.

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<v Speaker 1>Fish wise, we're talking like over two hundred different species,

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<v Speaker 1>including a bunch of different cichlids and like really cool

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>as catfish like you find all across South America. And

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:17.080
<v Speaker 1>there's this this weird looking miniature pike thing that's like

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.520
<v Speaker 1>really tiny, but it's like it's like a pike, only shrunk.

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>It's I don't know if you'd fish for it, but

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:24.840
<v Speaker 1>it's cool. And the marquis to us anyway, Golden Dorado.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a familiar story, the fish in that river

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:32.679
<v Speaker 1>they're not doing so well. Researchers estimate that fish populations

0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>have dropped as much as since for all the reasons

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 1>you're you're probably thinking pollution, siltagan dam is illegal, or fishing,

0:28:40.960 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>you know the deal. So many news outlets seem to

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<v Speaker 1>be covering this hippo story just because they want to

0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>use the headline cocaine hippos, and I get that like

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 1>that is a that is a frightening prospect. Hippos are

0:28:54.280 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>are scary on their own, just like in a natural state.

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:59.360
<v Speaker 1>The idea of hippos running around on like a coked

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<v Speaker 1>up rampa age, as if their finance bros blown off

0:29:02.120 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>steam Atlantic City, that's legitimately frightening to me. But let's

0:29:06.480 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 1>be clear, the hippos have nothing to do with cocaine,

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.360
<v Speaker 1>except for the fact that drug money brought them there

0:29:11.360 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 1>in the first place. These are not coked up hippos.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't believe all that. I'm less interested in the catchy

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:18.960
<v Speaker 1>headline and how the hippos got there in the first

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:21.640
<v Speaker 1>place that I am about how these invasive species are

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:24.640
<v Speaker 1>affecting the fishery and that ecosystem, and on that one,

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>conclusions are mixed. So some researchers are understandably concerned that

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<v Speaker 1>introducing non native large animals could further stress a river

0:29:33.760 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>system that's already struggling. Hippos are very very good at

0:29:38.960 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>moving nutrients from land to water. The herbivores that that

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>wander around on the land at night, grazing on plants

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.320
<v Speaker 1>and grasses, but they spend the daylight hours sleeping, lounging,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 1>and pooping in the water. That poop carries nutrients, and

0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.360
<v Speaker 1>as we've discussed lots of times before, too many nutrients

0:29:57.360 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 1>and water can cause problems like algae blooms, cilento bacteria,

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>as well as lowering oxygen levels and, according to at

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>least one study, making fish more vulnerable. Two predators. Hippos

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:14.480
<v Speaker 1>are also known as as ecosystem engineers. By moving their

0:30:14.480 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>massive bodies through muddy river channels and floodplains, they can

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>change how water flows, creating or reshaping channels. Another concern

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>is that they might displace or compete with native species

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 1>like manatees and otters, but other researchers are not convinced

0:30:30.440 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>that having the hippos around is necessarily bad for the

0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 1>Magdalena River right. Keep in mind, this river is pretty

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:42.800
<v Speaker 1>screwed up by human intervention, so some some scientists hypothesized

0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 1>that hippos might be refilling a niche. South America used

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<v Speaker 1>to have a variety of of large herbivores like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's weird. The toxodon, which I had never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of before, and it actually looks like a hippo, even

0:30:59.040 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>though it wasn't this. The might have been a semi

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<v Speaker 1>aquatic large mammal and it was wiped out about eleven

0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:08.880
<v Speaker 1>thousand years ago, probably by overhunting. But again that years ago,

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>what were we talking about. More contemporary examples would include

0:31:12.400 --> 0:31:15.600
<v Speaker 1>top hears, which are a pig like herbivores that also

0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>are found around the water. They love water and they're

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>they're native to that area and they're currently endangered. So

0:31:22.560 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 1>hippo's might and I stress, might be performing functions that

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:32.120
<v Speaker 1>these other animals used to do, dispersing seeds, moving nutrients around,

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:36.080
<v Speaker 1>and grazing and controlling stream side vegetation. But there's one

0:31:36.160 --> 0:31:40.680
<v Speaker 1>thing that hippos are definitely doing to help out fish

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>in the part of the Magdalena that they're currently occupying.

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:48.280
<v Speaker 1>They are scaring the crap out of poachers. Oh that's it.

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Twit Okay, I was waiting for the punchline, but okah,

0:31:51.440 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>here it is. Here it is. But before the hippos

0:31:54.600 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 1>started proliferating, illegal dynamite fishing was a pretty common occurrence

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>around there, Like poachers would just show up and dynamite

0:32:02.480 --> 0:32:04.680
<v Speaker 1>whole section of the river and take out all the fish.

0:32:04.800 --> 0:32:08.000
<v Speaker 1>And now they're not doing that because hippos are straight

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:10.840
<v Speaker 1>up terrifying, Like can you imagine that? Yeah, I mean

0:32:10.840 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>they have those cheesy nature shows that are like top

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.520
<v Speaker 1>ten most deadly animals, and like people always think it's

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:19.240
<v Speaker 1>gonna be the lion or the liger or something. Now, dude,

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>it's the hippo, like kill more people than oh yeah ship, yeah,

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, why far? It's kind of like, you know,

0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:28.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, like moose kill more people in Alaska than bears.

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Everybody got worry if the moose, you gotta worry about.

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Hippos kill far more people than all those scary predators

0:32:35.720 --> 0:32:39.600
<v Speaker 1>in Africa. They may not eat people, but they sure

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>do like the chomp crush and drowned them with those

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:47.840
<v Speaker 1>huge tusks. And hippos are not afraid of anything. And

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:49.840
<v Speaker 1>I can speak to this from personal experience. My first

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>job out of college was a teaching gig ahead in Botswana.

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.360
<v Speaker 1>And even though I like I lived down south in

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:59.800
<v Speaker 1>the capital city, teaching gig in Botswana, Yeah yeah, when

0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>I was twenty one. It was my first job out

0:33:01.800 --> 0:33:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of college. Go ahead, what have you done? I've said

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.040
<v Speaker 1>this before, like every time we do a new podcast.

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>You were like I was zip line instructor and not

0:33:10.120 --> 0:33:11.800
<v Speaker 1>like I'm like Jesus, I did, I didn't do that.

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:14.120
<v Speaker 1>But so anyway, when I when I was when I

0:33:14.120 --> 0:33:15.880
<v Speaker 1>was teaching down there, like I lived in the capital city,

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 1>which is in the south, but I would head up

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to the north to the Delta area whenever I got

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:22.840
<v Speaker 1>some time off to go fishing, obviously, and I very

0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 1>quickly learned to be afraid of hippos, Like I once

0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:29.240
<v Speaker 1>saw a hippo chase a thirty foot double decker cruise

0:33:29.280 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>boat and and the boat blinked first, like the boat

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 1>was the one that bailed out of that situation. So

0:33:36.520 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I am far more wary of hippos than any other

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 1>creature I've ever encountered when I was outside, Like bears, sharks,

0:33:43.120 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 1>no hippos, dude. So far in Colombia, no one has

0:33:46.720 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 1>yet been mauled, but it's kind of only a matter

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:52.520
<v Speaker 1>of time now. To sum this all up. In the past,

0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 1>I have talked about how I'm opposed to introducing new

0:33:56.280 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 1>species to try and fix problems humans have created in systems.

0:33:59.720 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Balance Like, generally, I think that's a bad idea, So

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm probably gonna take some heat here, but I'm kind

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 1>of on board with these hippos colonizing and protecting this river.

0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 1>Like alright, like I said, the river is in pretty

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>bad shape already, and and biologists think it's unlikely that

0:34:16.800 --> 0:34:19.839
<v Speaker 1>the hippo population will get completely out of control because

0:34:19.880 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 1>they're they're geographically restricted in this one river valley, and

0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:26.719
<v Speaker 1>you've got the Andes Mountains on the east that are

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>a solid, impassable barrier, so there's no danger of them

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 1>getting into the Amazon, which would be a legitimate So

0:34:34.760 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I just personal benion on this one. I've I've read

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a fair amount I think. I I think the approaches

0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>like the scientists should keep monitoring the situation which they're doing,

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 1>and see how it plays out. And like if things

0:34:45.560 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>get worse, if if the manatees start dying off, or

0:34:48.160 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the river chemistry gets all out of whack, or the

0:34:50.200 --> 0:34:53.360
<v Speaker 1>fish start disappearing even faster, kill the hippos. It's not

0:34:53.400 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>like they're hard to find. But in the meantime, I

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of say, like keeping eye on things and see

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:00.560
<v Speaker 1>how this one plays out. I kind of like the

0:35:00.600 --> 0:35:04.919
<v Speaker 1>hippo's guarding against the illegal fishing. I'm all for this, dude,

0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>throw a few below the Connor window. Damn in Maryland.

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 1>You want to have striper poaching problems there anymore? All

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 1>these guys with trout clubs in North Jersey, get you

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 1>a club, hippo not a problem, you know what I'm saying.

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I like it. I do too. I didn't go there.

0:35:18.920 --> 0:35:22.040
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole other story about how hippo's almost became

0:35:22.600 --> 0:35:26.200
<v Speaker 1>brought over to America's as a food source back in

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:29.200
<v Speaker 1>the day. Yeah, it almost happened, but thankfully someone thought better.

0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:34.279
<v Speaker 1>They almost got brought over to Florida. Here's a strange segue,

0:35:34.480 --> 0:35:38.680
<v Speaker 1>um that I had nothing until you just said that. Uh,

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>if you were if they ever were to come here

0:35:40.840 --> 0:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>to Florida or wherever, and you had to filet a

0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>hippo for the table, you might want an electric file

0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>at knife. I would, and they're supposedly delicious. I'm gonna

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.239
<v Speaker 1>throw that out there, and I would definitely want an

0:35:51.280 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 1>electric fila. Listen, I knew a person who shall definitely

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:57.840
<v Speaker 1>go nameless that once swore that not in this country,

0:35:57.840 --> 0:36:01.000
<v Speaker 1>but in another country whereas where it was heptable. He

0:36:01.440 --> 0:36:04.799
<v Speaker 1>once enjoyed semanity, and he was like it's delicious, it's

0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>out of control. Good, I believe it. It's okay. So

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:13.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not fleeing any hippos that I'm aware of, but

0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 1>listen up for everyone who who loves a good fish fry,

0:36:15.719 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and in this case, I'm particularly talking to my southern friends.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Right now, Rapila is recalling one and twenty eight thousand

0:36:23.280 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 1>battery operated filet knives because then some bitches are catching fire. Yes,

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 1>so this this comes to us, uh from the Minneapolis

0:36:32.760 --> 0:36:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Star Tribune. Um and it says a Twin Cities company

0:36:36.239 --> 0:36:40.880
<v Speaker 1>is recalling one thousand battery operated fishing knives after a

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>dozen or so caught on fire. So it's not like

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>they're all catching on fire, but but enough to to

0:36:45.920 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>make this a thing. Um. And of course Rapila USA

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.399
<v Speaker 1>is based in Minnetonka, which now, for a second week

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:55.279
<v Speaker 1>in a row, gives me license to say, why don't

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:59.279
<v Speaker 1>you purify yourselves in the waters of Lake Minnetonka. Well,

0:37:00.520 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this is a much less in depth poignant story than yours,

0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:05.800
<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to continue on. Uh. They issued the

0:37:06.120 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>recall last week of these rechargeable filet knives after it

0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:13.120
<v Speaker 1>learned of batteries overheating when plugged into a charger not

0:37:13.280 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 1>produced by Rappel, according to the US Consumer Product Safety Commission. Now,

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.759
<v Speaker 1>the knife in question here is the Rapple Ion, which

0:37:21.880 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>which runs on rechargeable lithium batteries, and I don't own one.

0:37:24.840 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I've never used one, but I looked it up and naturally,

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 1>when you buy this knife, it comes with a charger.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 1>So the statement they made is a little unclear because

0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if Rapple is saying this sometimes happened

0:37:35.760 --> 0:37:38.759
<v Speaker 1>with the charger they provide but did not produce. In

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>other words, it's not like a wrapper a brand charger

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:43.759
<v Speaker 1>that comes with it. They buy chargers and give you

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 1>one of the knife. Or are they saying this issue

0:37:46.560 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 1>is occurring when a charger that is not the charger

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they provided is being used to charge the knife, which

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.399
<v Speaker 1>is also possible because I'm only speaking for myself here.

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:58.200
<v Speaker 1>I have a ridiculous habit of losing charging chords, particularly

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.200
<v Speaker 1>those like when when they for ship that I don't use.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Often know what I'm saying, Like I I have at

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>least three rechargeable spotlights in the garage. I can't find

0:38:07.080 --> 0:38:10.319
<v Speaker 1>the damn cord for any of those. You know, like my, my,

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.120
<v Speaker 1>my pork, it's been enjoying the power wheels a TV

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:17.200
<v Speaker 1>for a year. It's like it's like inching along the

0:38:17.200 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 1>living room. I don't know what I do with the court, right,

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>so I can I can totally see some fish dudes

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.719
<v Speaker 1>like getting all excited about the knife, charging it, using

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:27.320
<v Speaker 1>it for a while, losing the cord and just like

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>Jerry rigging it to a lawnmower battery. You know, I mean,

0:38:29.960 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>I have I have good friends in Louisiana, right, Like

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.800
<v Speaker 1>they wear an electric filet knife on their belt daily

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 1>in case impromptu cleaning of a hundred suck a lot

0:38:38.160 --> 0:38:41.799
<v Speaker 1>pops up. But if something needs charging, uh and and

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 1>you have no cord, that boys will also figure out

0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.359
<v Speaker 1>how to charge it for you. So I'm not really

0:38:46.440 --> 0:38:49.280
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's very unclear, But I find it mildly

0:38:49.320 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>funny because these aren't cheap, right, they cost a hundred

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:54.800
<v Speaker 1>bucks that they're good knof, So you could see somebody

0:38:54.800 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 1>getting this, you know, some meat fisherman for Christmas and

0:38:57.680 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, walking out back within glue one fifty

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>full of speckled trout all excited, and that suckers just

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 1>melting on the cutting board. Um. Luckily though, none of

0:39:06.760 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>these fires have caused any injury or major damage. And

0:39:09.840 --> 0:39:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Rappila is good people, And here's what they say. Anyone

0:39:12.560 --> 0:39:14.800
<v Speaker 1>with one of these knives should stop using it. Immediately

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>remove the battery and look for a white E t

0:39:17.920 --> 0:39:20.560
<v Speaker 1>L Safety certification label on the battery and if it's

0:39:20.600 --> 0:39:22.279
<v Speaker 1>If you have one of these and it's not there,

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:25.520
<v Speaker 1>contact Rappila and they will send you a free replacement

0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.239
<v Speaker 1>battery so your knife does not burn up. They will

0:39:28.280 --> 0:39:30.640
<v Speaker 1>hook it up. And if anyone in my area had

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>this issue and just feels naked without their electric blade,

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>holler at me, because I have about six of them

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>that I never use. So the generosity at the end

0:39:40.040 --> 0:39:46.319
<v Speaker 1>of that statement not just from from from what do

0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:48.879
<v Speaker 1>you do you use electric file at knives I have?

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't, So I don't want to go too deep

0:39:51.920 --> 0:39:54.320
<v Speaker 1>into this because it could eat up some time. I

0:39:55.160 --> 0:39:58.720
<v Speaker 1>really I love something about using just a classic filet knife.

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>And and there's a the purest part of me that

0:40:01.600 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 1>doesn't really like electric file And I was having said

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 1>all that if you got cut up a ton of fish,

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.600
<v Speaker 1>they're super efficient, they're super fish. I don't I don't

0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.920
<v Speaker 1>have a problem with them. I don't like denigrate other

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>people for using them. No, I just personally like a

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>nice filet knife in standard form, and we're on the

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:21.000
<v Speaker 1>exact same page. I like, I get it if you're

0:40:21.000 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>a charter captain down south or and like you like

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.120
<v Speaker 1>every day you have to do a mess of trout

0:40:25.120 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and reds, totally get it. I don't catch enough fish

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.880
<v Speaker 1>for that. Like I am just not that good, you know.

0:40:31.040 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember the last time I brought home enough

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 1>fish and I was like, oh, ship, this is so daunting.

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I need power tools. And then if I have something

0:40:38.480 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>like really special like a tuna, I don't want to

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:42.480
<v Speaker 1>rips all through that. So like you, it's like delicate

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>brain surgery, Like I want to feel the knife tip

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 1>touch every rib, you know what I mean. So there

0:40:48.040 --> 0:40:50.319
<v Speaker 1>you go, watch out. Don't let your file at knife

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:53.279
<v Speaker 1>burn up. Where are you gonna go with that? Mile?

0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh gosh, that is that is a hard one. I

0:40:56.840 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 1>will say it before we leave it completely. I do

0:41:00.600 --> 0:41:05.719
<v Speaker 1>still use the classic Rappola file at knife that sent

0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>straight up a knife absolutely that are that are a

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.000
<v Speaker 1>dexter baby. Those are the ones I have always used them,

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and I've always had good luck with them they make,

0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:14.040
<v Speaker 1>so I'm glad to hear that they're standing by it,

0:41:14.080 --> 0:41:15.920
<v Speaker 1>even if they may have made a little bit of

0:41:15.920 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 1>a mess up there. I'm gonna hearken back a couple

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>of weeks to a story that you were telling about

0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the lower Susquehanna, I think, and the flatheads, right, and

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:37.879
<v Speaker 1>like you were talking about how there were all these

0:41:37.960 --> 0:41:42.200
<v Speaker 1>rumors of huge fish in that river, right, not just flatheads,

0:41:42.200 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>but all kinds of different fish, and a bunch of

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>the lower rivers around you. Yeah, say not that one

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>in particular, but all these eastern rivers with that sort

0:41:49.760 --> 0:41:51.920
<v Speaker 1>of lower damned in it's always like that's where the

0:41:51.920 --> 0:41:55.319
<v Speaker 1>big ones are, got them. Yeah, And if you remember,

0:41:55.440 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>my response was like, well don't say sample remember, like

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:06.919
<v Speaker 1>like a total snooty and no, that's not a thing here.

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:09.360
<v Speaker 1>So right, Yeah, no, I'm not about pretty wrong, not

0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.680
<v Speaker 1>at all. But that got me thinking right and it

0:42:12.080 --> 0:42:13.800
<v Speaker 1>helped me, like, it gave me a little context to

0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:18.080
<v Speaker 1>get out of my my western river focus that because

0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:21.440
<v Speaker 1>because like most of the major rivers out here are

0:42:21.560 --> 0:42:25.319
<v Speaker 1>very aggressively monitor and it managed and I just I

0:42:25.400 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 1>got stuck in my own experience, and I forgot that's

0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.080
<v Speaker 1>not the case in most places, Like that's not the

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>case most of the country. Uh, And it is here

0:42:33.160 --> 0:42:36.560
<v Speaker 1>because the fish populations are just so valuable to local economies,

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 1>right they they management agencies are told, like, keep an

0:42:39.239 --> 0:42:41.839
<v Speaker 1>eye on this because it's shorworth a lot of money, right,

0:42:41.880 --> 0:42:44.680
<v Speaker 1>that's what they have to do. So in order to

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 1>do that, management agencies rely on on a technology that's

0:42:48.440 --> 0:42:51.440
<v Speaker 1>been around since the sixties called electro fishing. And I

0:42:51.520 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>know you're familiar with this, but but other people might

0:42:53.520 --> 0:42:57.320
<v Speaker 1>not be, and to vastly oversimplify it, Like it involves

0:42:57.800 --> 0:43:01.400
<v Speaker 1>using these machines that create a low level electric field

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 1>in a small area of water, and the fish that

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:08.280
<v Speaker 1>are around are simultaneously stunned and drawn to the source

0:43:08.320 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of the current. So you stick these wands, these two

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 1>ones into the into the water and like it's crazy, man,

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>the pool just these fish come to the service that

0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:19.120
<v Speaker 1>I've done it. I've done it. It's it's nuts. Yeah,

0:43:19.280 --> 0:43:21.959
<v Speaker 1>it's insane. And then you know, the biole just turned

0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>the and the text turned these things on. All the

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.319
<v Speaker 1>fish come up, they they net them. It's just like

0:43:26.360 --> 0:43:28.440
<v Speaker 1>this crazy net game, trying to get them before they

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>flow out of the pool and throw them into buckets

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 1>so they can they can measure them, they can count them,

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and then off of that they make estimates about the

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:38.839
<v Speaker 1>population of the river and how well the fish are doing.

0:43:39.560 --> 0:43:42.799
<v Speaker 1>And right now, that's not only the gold standard for

0:43:42.840 --> 0:43:45.839
<v Speaker 1>measuring fish stocks, it's just about the only way we

0:43:45.880 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 1>know how to do it that makes any sense, right, Like,

0:43:48.360 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>that's about all we got. But it's really expensive, it's

0:43:52.400 --> 0:43:56.600
<v Speaker 1>really labor intensive, and it does have some mortality, Like

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>some fish do die from the shocking and the handling.

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:01.839
<v Speaker 1>White fish especially, Man, I've seen I've seen whitefish hit

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:04.960
<v Speaker 1>that current and their gills explode, like it's the weirdest thing.

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.399
<v Speaker 1>It's just like blood ships up and they're done. I've

0:44:07.440 --> 0:44:09.400
<v Speaker 1>only ever done it for trout. And while most of

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.400
<v Speaker 1>them are okay, like you gets some tiny fingerling, like

0:44:13.000 --> 0:44:16.279
<v Speaker 1>there's casualties of war. Not many, but they're they're right.

0:44:16.320 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not dogging on electrophishing. Like you said, it's

0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a gold standard and it's really important, but that those

0:44:20.120 --> 0:44:22.600
<v Speaker 1>are just the realities. It's it's it's super expensive, it's

0:44:22.600 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>super labor intensive, and there there are some some casualties.

0:44:25.840 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 1>So while electro fishing is it's gonna remain the most

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:33.520
<v Speaker 1>comprehensive tool for monitoring fish stocks, another option might be

0:44:33.560 --> 0:44:36.239
<v Speaker 1>coming up soon. In the past couple of weeks, I

0:44:36.360 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 1>found two studies that were published about using environmental DNA

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>known as e d NA to detect fish and bodies

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:47.399
<v Speaker 1>of water. Right. So, so fish, just like any other

0:44:47.440 --> 0:44:51.279
<v Speaker 1>living creature, they shed their DNA into the environment around them,

0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and this technology allows researchers to just take a water

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:58.799
<v Speaker 1>sample and then test that sample for the presence of

0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:03.160
<v Speaker 1>particular fish. So one study which was out of Oregon

0:45:03.239 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 1>State University, this one's focused on native fish like desirable fish,

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.880
<v Speaker 1>and they found that they could use e d N

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.040
<v Speaker 1>a testing to track the presence of native cutthroat and

0:45:14.080 --> 0:45:18.120
<v Speaker 1>headwater streams, which is a particularly hard thing to test for. Right,

0:45:18.120 --> 0:45:21.480
<v Speaker 1>because they do make those electro phishing backpacks, like you

0:45:21.520 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 1>can carry them on your back, But carrying those things,

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:27.200
<v Speaker 1>those shocking packs with a crew of fisheries text like

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>way deep into the mountains. Yeah, yeah, it's it's rough.

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.879
<v Speaker 1>And so if this like the the idea behind this

0:45:36.920 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>is is that instead of having to do all that,

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:41.000
<v Speaker 1>you could just send one person up there to collect

0:45:41.000 --> 0:45:44.359
<v Speaker 1>water samples all the way up and and figure out

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.040
<v Speaker 1>where the fish are and where they aren't. And and

0:45:47.080 --> 0:45:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to stress that the researchers

0:45:48.840 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 1>are very clear on this that e d N A

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 1>testing will not replace shocking surveys, but it offers a cheaper,

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 1>easier compliment, right, Like, there's no with with with this.

0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.239
<v Speaker 1>With this method, with e DNA, you can't tell the

0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:02.960
<v Speaker 1>size of the condition of the fish. You just know

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>that they're there, so you won't replace it. But it's

0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:08.480
<v Speaker 1>an interesting compliment. And I see, I don't want to

0:46:08.520 --> 0:46:09.920
<v Speaker 1>jump ahead because I don't know where you're going, but

0:46:10.000 --> 0:46:11.839
<v Speaker 1>I I have a lot of questions which I'm sure

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:15.360
<v Speaker 1>there are no answers to, like dilution, Like how how

0:46:15.440 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 1>far up in that system do you need to be

0:46:17.560 --> 0:46:20.919
<v Speaker 1>to get the water if I get it, if there's

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:23.480
<v Speaker 1>if there's cutties in the headwaters, how far down can

0:46:23.480 --> 0:46:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I sample and still get an accurate read before all

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:28.920
<v Speaker 1>that DNA is diluted. I think it's pretty localized. Otherwise

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't tell him much, right like, they know, Hey,

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>just in this stretch right here, we know they're here.

0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Um and and so that part useful interesting. But I

0:46:39.120 --> 0:46:42.440
<v Speaker 1>also found another study out of Cornell same week that

0:46:42.560 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 1>shows another way that fisheries managers might use E d

0:46:46.280 --> 0:46:49.000
<v Speaker 1>n A. In that study, the authors were focusing on

0:46:49.080 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 1>invasive species. Specifically, they were testing on a round gobies,

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>which are small fish that are originally native to Eurasia.

0:46:56.120 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>And then and they got into the Great Lakes in

0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the nineties through a ship ballast and they just took over.

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.040
<v Speaker 1>And we're not gonna we're not gonna get into the

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Gobi debate right now. We've we've touched on that before.

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure that again, but that's not the point of

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:09.800
<v Speaker 1>the story. The point is that just by testing water

0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 1>samples and lakes, they were able to determine the presence

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:16.360
<v Speaker 1>of gobies, not only that, the density of the Gobi

0:47:16.440 --> 0:47:22.120
<v Speaker 1>population and even their origin and levels of genetic diversity,

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 1>So like where these particular gobies came from and and

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.279
<v Speaker 1>and how genetically the verse they were if they just

0:47:29.320 --> 0:47:33.400
<v Speaker 1>came from single source origins, and this could be really

0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:36.720
<v Speaker 1>useful and cost effective for monitoring and stopping the spread

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.920
<v Speaker 1>of invasives. Right just by taking a water sample and

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>looking at it, scientists might be able to determine if

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.840
<v Speaker 1>non natives are starting to get a foothold somewhere, and

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:49.399
<v Speaker 1>if they are, how fast they're reproducing and with what

0:47:49.520 --> 0:47:53.120
<v Speaker 1>level of success. Right, So, so, like one of the

0:47:53.160 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 1>major issues that we see with with specificy with things

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:59.000
<v Speaker 1>like gobies and zebra muscles is that they're they're super small,

0:47:59.280 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 1>and they're they're pretty well camouflaged, right, so by the

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 1>time anyone actually sees them, they're probably everywhere, or agencies

0:48:06.360 --> 0:48:09.360
<v Speaker 1>have to be like crazy diligent and spend tons of

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.799
<v Speaker 1>money to monitor whether or not they show up, right,

0:48:12.840 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>And this this technology could allow those resource managers to

0:48:16.400 --> 0:48:20.640
<v Speaker 1>get out ahead of invasive aquatic species and make targeted

0:48:20.680 --> 0:48:23.359
<v Speaker 1>and effective mitigation plans. So that's where I see as

0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:27.520
<v Speaker 1>being really cool. Yeah, I mean that's very fascinating. Again

0:48:27.520 --> 0:48:30.400
<v Speaker 1>that there's so many questions though, I mean it sounds

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>like with the with the Gobi study, they can do

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:35.400
<v Speaker 1>so much with so little. But then I I immediately

0:48:35.520 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 1>jumped like two snakeheads. So if if you have a

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:42.880
<v Speaker 1>lake or or whatever impoundment connected to a known waterway

0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>where they are, like, how many snakeheads have to get

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:51.160
<v Speaker 1>in there before just a water test? Let you even

0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:52.839
<v Speaker 1>know they're there. You know what I mean. It's it's

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>it's I'm being rhetorical right now. I just find that

0:48:54.960 --> 0:48:57.919
<v Speaker 1>part fascinating, Like if two snake heads get in there

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:00.879
<v Speaker 1>and it's a three acre body of water, or will

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.759
<v Speaker 1>they read How they seem to have refined that so

0:49:03.840 --> 0:49:08.040
<v Speaker 1>quickly to gobies is pretty awesome like that, And I'll

0:49:08.040 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>tell you I'm all for it just for for safety reasons,

0:49:11.160 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>because I've shocked fish twice in my life, and the

0:49:13.560 --> 0:49:15.479
<v Speaker 1>first time I had to watch from the sidelines because

0:49:15.480 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I was the idiot that showed up with studded boots

0:49:17.800 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 1>studded metal studs in his waiting boots and they were like, ha,

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 1>you were the boots with the studs. You're gonna have

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to stand over there on the bank, so um yeah.

0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:30.759
<v Speaker 1>And then and then the second time I got to

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>talk like if you fee your heart fluttering at all,

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:34.920
<v Speaker 1>please let somebody know. I'm like, you know what, I

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:36.400
<v Speaker 1>just I just want to look at the trout in

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:42.359
<v Speaker 1>the bucket. You do the shocking. It's it's I've only

0:49:42.400 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>done it with the backpack ones in high mountain streams,

0:49:45.040 --> 0:49:47.319
<v Speaker 1>which again I can attest their heavy and they're real

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 1>pain in the has to carry up long trails. Um,

0:49:50.160 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I've never got to do the boat surveys. I've always

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:54.959
<v Speaker 1>wanted to. Yeah, no, me, they're me there. It looks

0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:58.400
<v Speaker 1>super cool. But this is uh man, there's so much

0:49:58.480 --> 0:50:00.760
<v Speaker 1>there's so much we can do with that, so many places.

0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>If that sort of takes a hold, if we start,

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.919
<v Speaker 1>if they the speed at which this seems to be going,

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and the ways that E d n A like just

0:50:09.640 --> 0:50:11.680
<v Speaker 1>taking a water sample and knowing what's there and in

0:50:11.840 --> 0:50:14.960
<v Speaker 1>what density and where it came from, that could be

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 1>very useful information. Absolutely so the only tie in I

0:50:18.160 --> 0:50:22.359
<v Speaker 1>have is um. If you're a sushi fan, perhaps one

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:25.120
<v Speaker 1>could argue that a shocked fish would taste more delicious

0:50:25.160 --> 0:50:27.120
<v Speaker 1>as it was less stressed than one that falls on

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 1>the end of the line. How about that it comes

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:32.839
<v Speaker 1>up quickly? You know. I had to, you know, because

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go culinary here, a little bit a little funky, um,

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.480
<v Speaker 1>not so fresh. And I'm gonna assume that we do,

0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in fact have plenty of listeners like me, and I

0:50:40.640 --> 0:50:43.640
<v Speaker 1>believe you that just go gagaf for sushi. I am

0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a sushi at I just and and even though because

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:49.879
<v Speaker 1>where I live. I do get the opportunity to make

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 1>my own on occasion. If we get tuna ber neither

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.319
<v Speaker 1>sea bass or whatever, I'm just as happy to go

0:50:54.360 --> 0:50:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to a restaurant or get the mysterious half price sushi

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>buffet sushi, or sushi from the sushi department at shop. Right.

0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't really care, right, I just love sushi. Um. Now,

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:09.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure, at least I'm guessing this was very different

0:51:09.520 --> 0:51:11.400
<v Speaker 1>for you growing up in Hawaii. But for me, as

0:51:11.440 --> 0:51:15.400
<v Speaker 1>a kid in the Northeast, sushi was was very weird

0:51:15.440 --> 0:51:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and like you really had to go out of your

0:51:16.719 --> 0:51:18.880
<v Speaker 1>way to get it, like to a restaurant in Philly

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 1>or New York. Right, I'm sure you grew up right exactly,

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 1>but like Little League Picnics. Well, there you go. Okay,

0:51:28.360 --> 0:51:31.479
<v Speaker 1>so it's very different, but now it's it's everywhere here, right,

0:51:31.520 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 1>And um. What people may not realize though, is that

0:51:34.360 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the sushi we consume now is actually like a relatively

0:51:38.280 --> 0:51:42.160
<v Speaker 1>recent invention, first appearing in the early twentieth century, and

0:51:42.200 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 1>what we eat is sort of like a dumb down,

0:51:44.280 --> 0:51:48.480
<v Speaker 1>pretty more presentable version of traditional sushi. And I found

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.799
<v Speaker 1>this story on the site Atlas Obscura titled to make

0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Japan's original sushi first age fish for several months and

0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:00.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's actually a really fascinating article centered around

0:52:00.840 --> 0:52:04.240
<v Speaker 1>a seventy five year old sushi restaurant in the city

0:52:04.280 --> 0:52:09.440
<v Speaker 1>of Wakiyama that specializes in making sushi in its ancient form.

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:13.560
<v Speaker 1>And they they call this sushi narazushi. And to make it,

0:52:13.600 --> 0:52:16.279
<v Speaker 1>you pack rice into salted fish carcasses and let it

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:20.120
<v Speaker 1>age for months. And uh, the owner of the restaurant says,

0:52:20.120 --> 0:52:23.640
<v Speaker 1>since you're fermenting it, the taste is more similar to

0:52:23.800 --> 0:52:29.880
<v Speaker 1>cheese or yogurt than fish. Okay. And furthermore, at this restaurant,

0:52:30.360 --> 0:52:33.000
<v Speaker 1>for fifty three U s dollars per taste, they will

0:52:33.040 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 1>serve you thirty year aged sushi. And it says it's

0:52:37.320 --> 0:52:40.399
<v Speaker 1>so dirt composed thirty year and it says it's so

0:52:40.520 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 1>decomposed that it's textually more of a thick gruel than

0:52:45.239 --> 0:52:48.440
<v Speaker 1>a modern day sushi roll. It says, while some chunks

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of fish keep their shape, time and bacteria liquefies the

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 1>mixture to the point that it can only be used

0:52:53.560 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 1>as a condiment, like you just put a dollop of

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.319
<v Speaker 1>it on some on some rice and it's said to

0:52:58.320 --> 0:53:02.880
<v Speaker 1>be sour, pungent and mildly sweet. Um. But this style

0:53:02.920 --> 0:53:05.840
<v Speaker 1>of sushi, this fermented sushi, was first recorded in Japan

0:53:05.880 --> 0:53:08.560
<v Speaker 1>in the eighth century. And of course back then this

0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:10.560
<v Speaker 1>was out of out of necessity, right it was. It

0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 1>was a preservation method. But now it's considered a delicacy

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>because it takes so long to make. And fun thing

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.759
<v Speaker 1>I learned from this is that the word sushi is

0:53:18.760 --> 0:53:23.680
<v Speaker 1>actually derived from the Japanese word for sour. Never knew that, um.

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.480
<v Speaker 1>And there's so much interesting stuff about sushi history in this.

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:29.160
<v Speaker 1>It's quite a rabbit hole. But it's funny because it

0:53:29.200 --> 0:53:32.880
<v Speaker 1>illustrates um a full sort of coming around of sushi

0:53:33.160 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 1>in that the O g sushi. You know, it was

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 1>the nasty fish fermented for years. Then as refrigeration technology advanced,

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>there was no need to ferment, and sushi, as as

0:53:43.680 --> 0:53:46.279
<v Speaker 1>we know it started as a legit fast food or

0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 1>street food in Japan, and then it became this weird, fancy,

0:53:49.400 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>mysterious thing to US Americans for decades and now in

0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:54.440
<v Speaker 1>one you can buy it at a gas station. So

0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.719
<v Speaker 1>like it's kind of crazy, like how the whole the

0:53:56.719 --> 0:53:59.400
<v Speaker 1>whole pattern came full circle and um, you know, I

0:53:59.400 --> 0:54:01.239
<v Speaker 1>mean I love one. Someone says, like I usually get

0:54:01.239 --> 0:54:03.399
<v Speaker 1>the California Roll, but I got crazy and tried eel

0:54:03.520 --> 0:54:07.960
<v Speaker 1>last time. Yeah, okay, try this. So for the sushi

0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:10.120
<v Speaker 1>freaks out there that you know, I love a good

0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:14.280
<v Speaker 1>piece of blue fin o G sushi was nasty fermented

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:18.120
<v Speaker 1>fish paste. That's what I got. I try it, though

0:54:18.280 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>I would be if I was at that restaurant. I

0:54:20.840 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like I had to try that just to say

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:25.880
<v Speaker 1>I did. Oh yeah, I would definitely, I would try it.

0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:28.520
<v Speaker 1>You lost me a gruel, that was the That was

0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 1>the word I didn't. I didn't interject that. That was

0:54:32.120 --> 0:54:33.560
<v Speaker 1>right from the article. They said, Yeah, it has the

0:54:33.560 --> 0:54:36.800
<v Speaker 1>texture of gruel, but it's fifty three bucks to taste.

0:54:37.120 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Fifty three dollars for like a little pat of thirty

0:54:39.760 --> 0:54:42.920
<v Speaker 1>year aged sushi. I mean, I'll try I'll try anything

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:45.839
<v Speaker 1>pretty much for the most part, but especially if someone

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:50.040
<v Speaker 1>else is buying. Somebody's like, yeah, I'll treats let's see

0:54:50.040 --> 0:54:53.040
<v Speaker 1>how it goes. No, I mean that that was that

0:54:53.080 --> 0:54:55.080
<v Speaker 1>was fascinat Like I really appreciated that deep diving to

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:56.600
<v Speaker 1>sushi don't have a ton of follow up, but like

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:59.439
<v Speaker 1>that was I'm glad you did that. Like I didn't

0:54:59.440 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>know a lot of those things. It's kind of an

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:03.160
<v Speaker 1>oddball thing. But like I you know, I love I

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:05.160
<v Speaker 1>love cutting my own sushi when I have the right

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.399
<v Speaker 1>fish for it. And we're so like sushi consumed, but

0:55:08.680 --> 0:55:11.160
<v Speaker 1>really like we like it's new school stuff. We eat

0:55:11.200 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 1>all these roles and fancies, sauce crap, that's all modern days.

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:18.160
<v Speaker 1>That's not what they were eating back in the day.

0:55:18.280 --> 0:55:21.759
<v Speaker 1>So hopefully Phil like sushi and I impressed him with that.

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:25.840
<v Speaker 1>You also have, I wrote, I wrote it down this time. Okay,

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>so we got coked out, hippo's we got burning knives.

0:55:29.560 --> 0:55:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Phil's got sushi to deal with. Um and and I'm

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 1>very gonna skip e d n A of fish as

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 1>a conservation tool. Just can skip over that one. Did

0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I forgot to jot that one? And then I was

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to think of like the keyword to use in

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:48.520
<v Speaker 1>the last second, so that Phil, you can also consider that.

0:55:49.160 --> 0:55:51.440
<v Speaker 1>UM And we'll see, We'll see where we land with

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:59.759
<v Speaker 1>Phil Miles Nulty, You're the winner. Disney just announced that

0:55:59.760 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 1>they were to be refreshing the Jungle Cruise ride to

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:05.840
<v Speaker 1>get rid of some outdated tableaus. And I think the

0:56:05.880 --> 0:56:08.719
<v Speaker 1>solution here is simple. We just send forty or so

0:56:08.840 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 1>of these Escobar hippos up to Orange County. Let the

0:56:12.080 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 1>guests swim around and hope for the best. That's a

0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:19.760
<v Speaker 1>thrill ride. And on another note, while pleasuring yourself before

0:56:19.880 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 1>a fishing trip may bring bad luck, I can tell

0:56:23.760 --> 0:56:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you that it only brings good luck to podcast editing

0:56:31.960 --> 0:56:34.919
<v Speaker 1>the land, to the boats, to the lake, to the sea,

0:56:35.280 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 1>being up the nets with your boy lads. What's up,

0:56:43.600 --> 0:56:46.680
<v Speaker 1>pass wives, It's me, your boy Lance V here yet

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.040
<v Speaker 1>again to help you take your status as an Internet

0:56:49.080 --> 0:56:51.920
<v Speaker 1>fishing legend up another level. I mean, you're not ever

0:56:51.960 --> 0:56:54.400
<v Speaker 1>going to be a legend like me or Biggie John B,

0:56:55.040 --> 0:56:56.960
<v Speaker 1>so forget that. But if this gets you four or

0:56:57.000 --> 0:56:59.200
<v Speaker 1>five new followers that aren't your aunt or old summer

0:56:59.239 --> 0:57:01.759
<v Speaker 1>camp counselor I've done my job and you actually get

0:57:01.840 --> 0:57:05.440
<v Speaker 1>to spend a day feeling good about yourself hashtag self healing.

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:10.920
<v Speaker 1>This week's question comes from Jake B, who writes, Holy Smokes,

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:14.000
<v Speaker 1>no more segments with Lance. I am forced to skip

0:57:14.200 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>through it. If you must keep that segment, please do

0:57:16.880 --> 0:57:18.840
<v Speaker 1>it at the very end, so I can just stop

0:57:18.920 --> 0:57:21.640
<v Speaker 1>the podcast when I hear him begin to talk. It

0:57:22.080 --> 0:57:26.600
<v Speaker 1>is awful. However, I'm thinking about doing some Instagram live videos.

0:57:26.800 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Any tips, amazing question, Jake B. It's the live separates

0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Internet fishing legends from losers. Going live means you can't

0:57:35.040 --> 0:57:37.680
<v Speaker 1>do sixty three takes of your shitty fishing tip video

0:57:37.840 --> 0:57:40.040
<v Speaker 1>before posting. You think you're ready to mount up with

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:44.200
<v Speaker 1>WARRINGNGY and the regulators, we'll see hashtag get psyched, hashtag

0:57:44.240 --> 0:57:47.600
<v Speaker 1>you can do this hashtag maybe. Whatever you do, do

0:57:47.960 --> 0:57:50.680
<v Speaker 1>not announce that you'll be going live days or hours

0:57:50.720 --> 0:57:53.240
<v Speaker 1>before you actually go live. Just dream your raw show

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:56.960
<v Speaker 1>consciousness to the masses whenever the mood strikes. Promoting an

0:57:57.000 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 1>upcoming live video just tells the world that your word

0:57:59.560 --> 0:58:02.040
<v Speaker 1>nobody who show up, which is sures that no one

0:58:02.120 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 1>will show up. If you're as brilliant as I think

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.760
<v Speaker 1>I am, the world will stop whatever it's doing to

0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:11.840
<v Speaker 1>tune in. Hashtag trust me. Also, don't prepare anything. Spend

0:58:11.880 --> 0:58:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the first forty five seconds stalling until one of your

0:58:14.040 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 1>friends drops a stupid comment that will allow you to

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:19.720
<v Speaker 1>transform the entire live session into a group chat between

0:58:19.760 --> 0:58:22.600
<v Speaker 1>you and your squad. Here's the secret. People don't tune

0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:25.080
<v Speaker 1>into live videos to learn something. They want to feel

0:58:25.080 --> 0:58:27.080
<v Speaker 1>like they're part of your inner circle, and the best

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 1>way to let them in is by prattling on about

0:58:29.280 --> 0:58:31.840
<v Speaker 1>inside jokes and stories that only a small amount of

0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:35.280
<v Speaker 1>people watching will't understand. Anyway, that's it for me, Your

0:58:35.320 --> 0:58:37.840
<v Speaker 1>boy Lance Vye, hope that helped you. Must do the

0:58:37.880 --> 0:58:40.840
<v Speaker 1>courage of snoop line, Jake B. Maybe I'll catch you

0:58:40.960 --> 0:58:43.480
<v Speaker 1>next week live from your mom's house, or if things

0:58:43.560 --> 0:58:45.640
<v Speaker 1>go my way, live from the Admirals Club at the

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Goon Squad's private airport. This will come as a shark

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<v Speaker 1>to absolutely no one, but I have neither posted nor

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<v Speaker 1>watched an Instagram live video ever in my life. Not surprising, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>It's actually extremely rare that I tune into anything live,

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<v Speaker 1>and if I do, it's always my pure happenstance, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to be on Instagram when I get the

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<v Speaker 1>alert that some friend of mine is now live, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just jump over at a dumb comment and right

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<v Speaker 1>about the time when they read it and go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>Josie is watching, I'm xing out. I'm gone because I

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<v Speaker 1>find's heads Then I like, I'm there. I'm I'm there

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<v Speaker 1>to be a jerk. Yeah, because I find most live

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<v Speaker 1>social videos awkward to watch anyway, So I click over

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like, I want to see how awkward he's

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<v Speaker 1>looking and feeling right now doing this, and I find

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<v Speaker 1>him pent awkward to produce. I've done it a few

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<v Speaker 1>times Facebook. I hate it. I hate it, I hate it.

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<v Speaker 1>The whole thing seems super awkward to me, unless you've

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<v Speaker 1>got an insane following. In my opinion, it's the fastest

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<v Speaker 1>way to figure out how many people are not tuning

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<v Speaker 1>into your ship. Like, if you need something to make

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<v Speaker 1>you feel better about yourself, do not go live on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, don't listen to Lance. Yes, those are words

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<v Speaker 1>to live by for everybody. And uh and that actually

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<v Speaker 1>leads me nicely into our final segment of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>where we give you the history of lures, baits and

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<v Speaker 1>flies that we live by. It's time for end of

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<v Speaker 1>the line. That's not loud enough. The rattle Trap wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the first commercially produced lipless crank bait. That honor goes

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<v Speaker 1>to the Cordell hotspot, but no one casually refers to

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<v Speaker 1>lipless crank baits as hotspots. No, they're called traps, despite

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that several other baits of a similar design

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<v Speaker 1>preceded them. The Swimming Minnow by You, Boogie, Pico Perch,

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<v Speaker 1>and water Gator all came out around the same time

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<v Speaker 1>as the hotspot, and all featured the small profile, tight wobble,

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<v Speaker 1>rapid sync, and high hook up ratio. But the rattle

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<v Speaker 1>trap was the one that made lipless crank baits the

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<v Speaker 1>dominant lures they are today. The rail trup was the

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<v Speaker 1>brainchild of World War Two veteran Bill Lewis. Lewis piloted

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<v Speaker 1>B twenty four bombers, which were called flying coffins by

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<v Speaker 1>the airman who flew them. Louis survived thirty combat missions,

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<v Speaker 1>some of which included supporting ground troops during the D

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<v Speaker 1>Day invasion at Normandy. He also flew voluntary support missions

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<v Speaker 1>to resupply troops after the invasion. His heroism earned him

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<v Speaker 1>the Distinguished Flying Cross Medal. Lewis then came home to

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<v Speaker 1>pursue his education, first at the University of Alabama and

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<v Speaker 1>then at the Chicago Academy of Art, from which he

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<v Speaker 1>launched his career as a commercial artist. But Louis was

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<v Speaker 1>never really satisfied working for someone else. He had that hustle,

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<v Speaker 1>also known as entrepreneurial spirit depending on where you grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>By day he was drawing logos and headers, but by

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<v Speaker 1>night he was making bass lures in his garage in Alexandria, Louisiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Weekends would find him selling those lures out of the

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<v Speaker 1>trunk of his beat up car popular boat ramps. Much

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<v Speaker 1>of the time, Lewis would end up partying with his

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<v Speaker 1>spinner rates, plastic worms, and other lures below cost, just

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<v Speaker 1>so he could get enough gas money to make it

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<v Speaker 1>back home. This went on for decades, but Lewis remained undeterred.

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<v Speaker 1>Legend has it that all changed one day in the

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<v Speaker 1>late nineteen sixties. Lewis and a friend were fishing a

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<v Speaker 1>slow bite on Toledo Bend, cruising around the reservoir trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find some active fish, when they saw a crowd

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<v Speaker 1>of boats piled into the Sabine River channel. Upon investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>they found that none of the boats were fishing except one.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest of the flotilla had gathered to watch in ows.

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<v Speaker 1>The two anglers pulled in fish on nearly every cast.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill recognized one of the anglers as a buddy he'd

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<v Speaker 1>given some lures to and naturally asked him, to which

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<v Speaker 1>the guy replied, that silly rattling thing you gave me,

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<v Speaker 1>you got any more of them? Not today, Lewis responded.

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<v Speaker 1>Story goes that Louis and his fishing partner both tied

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<v Speaker 1>on some of his rattling lure prototypes and proceeded to

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<v Speaker 1>experience actions similar to what they witnessed in the channel,

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<v Speaker 1>catching bass after bass despite the slow bite, some of

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<v Speaker 1>which were in the eight pound class. That afternoon, Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>drove home through a rainstorm and his trusty Ford station

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<v Speaker 1>wagon with wipers that didn't work. As he crawled back

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<v Speaker 1>to Louisiana, his right hand on the steering wheel and

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<v Speaker 1>his left hand manually operating the windshield wiper, a name

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<v Speaker 1>for the new lure came to him, the rattle trap.

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<v Speaker 1>The rattle trap success proved not to be a fluke,

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<v Speaker 1>and Lewis's business took off pretty quickly. By seventy the

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<v Speaker 1>rattle trap was a common lure, and by the nine

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<v Speaker 1>eighties it was rivaling the plastic worm as the dominant

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<v Speaker 1>bait in bass tournaments. The Bill Lewis Company grew into

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<v Speaker 1>one of the only successful fishing companies to manufacture just

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<v Speaker 1>one product. That's how good rattle traps were and are.

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<v Speaker 1>They might be the most versatile hard bait of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>You can rip them fast and shallow for aggressive fish,

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<v Speaker 1>or count them down and work them slow when the

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<v Speaker 1>bite is sluggish. They're one of the few baits with

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<v Speaker 1>a reputation for catching both large numbers of bass as

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<v Speaker 1>well as truly big bass. Some pro anglers refer to

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<v Speaker 1>it as an idiot bait, meaning that just about anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of skill or experience, can tie on a trap

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<v Speaker 1>and catch fish with it. Tommy Martin, a veteran pro,

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<v Speaker 1>has been quoted as saying a lot of pros wish

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<v Speaker 1>the rattle trap had never been invented for that very reason.

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<v Speaker 1>In modern bass angling, traps remain legendary for their effectiveness

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<v Speaker 1>in heavy grass during cold months where I live in Texas,

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<v Speaker 1>Martin said, from January through March, if you're not fishing them,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not in business. I first discovered the power of

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<v Speaker 1>the rattle trap fishing a peacock bass pond with my

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<v Speaker 1>dad and one of his buddies. I will never forget

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<v Speaker 1>when that guy whose him, I can't remember, tied on

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<v Speaker 1>a trap, cast it out, and retrieved it. The sound

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<v Speaker 1>emanated up from the water and through the boat. It's

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<v Speaker 1>somehow simultaneously hit high and low frequencies, the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>sound you weren't sure if you were hearing or feeling

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<v Speaker 1>like a grouse drumming. That sound is what defines the

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<v Speaker 1>rattle trap, and to this day I can recall it

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<v Speaker 1>exactly in my head. The dude then proceeded to whale

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<v Speaker 1>on peacocks all day while my dad and I flailed

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<v Speaker 1>with our spinner baits and standard cranks. He finally let

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<v Speaker 1>me use one, this weird rattling thing painted to look

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<v Speaker 1>like some kind of a bait fish with blood dripping

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<v Speaker 1>off the sides bleeding shed. He told me, all fish

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<v Speaker 1>love that color. I started saving up car wash money

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<v Speaker 1>the very next weekend, and the lures I went on

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<v Speaker 1>to buy provided countless memorable days and fish. Bill Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>died in two thousand five, but his signature bait continues

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<v Speaker 1>to both win tournaments and help regular anglers catch their

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<v Speaker 1>lifetime fish, even kids like fifteen year old Tyler Getsman

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<v Speaker 1>of Willis, Texas, who lended a thirteen pounder on a

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<v Speaker 1>trap in January of last year. I don't personally fish

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<v Speaker 1>them as much as I used to, but when I do,

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<v Speaker 1>there's only one color I reach for, the bleeding chad. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that about wraps it up. But for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>now feeling pious, this week's book of fishing Revelations includes

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<v Speaker 1>the worst trespass and angler can make against the fishing Gods,

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<v Speaker 1>the most sacred fishing tool in history, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>some of our listeners are as cool as Miles Davis.

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<v Speaker 1>And the lure that first rattled the grassy crypt where

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<v Speaker 1>big best slumber in winter, It works in summer too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying it's not just a wintertime lure anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep those awkward photos, bar nominations, sale bin items in general,

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<v Speaker 1>feedback flowing to bent at the meat Eater dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>tell us when we screw up, tell us when we

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<v Speaker 1>strike a nerve. This week, we want to know about

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<v Speaker 1>your fishing superstitions, especially the weird of the funny ones

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<v Speaker 1>lead on us. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And I'm hoping

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<v Speaker 1>you'll send us some good ones, and if you do,

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<v Speaker 1>they might get mentioned in a future episode, in which

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<v Speaker 1>case will send you a special limited addition Degenerate Angler's

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<v Speaker 1>care package. Um, if you don't believe in such things,

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<v Speaker 1>you could still get some stickers. If something you post

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<v Speaker 1>using that Bent podcast and degenerate Angler hashtag on Instagram

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<v Speaker 1>catches our attention, like Big Brother or the Eye of Saron,

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching you,