1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: They wear an electric filet knife on their belt daily 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 1: in case impromptu cleaning of a hundred soccer lot pops up. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: Hashtag get psyched, hashtag you can do this hashtag Maybe 4 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: I once saw a hippo chase a thirty foot double 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 1: decker cruise boat and and the boat blinked first. And 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: my personal favorite, the bomat fish whisper floating fish building. 7 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: Good morning, degenerate anglers, Welcome to band, your trusted source 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: for all the latest greatest sense attractings, fish oils, holy waters, 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: and chum to dress your favorite mayfly parachutes. I'm Joe 10 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Surmelim Miles Nulty, and I never fish, at least I 11 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: never fished dry flies anyway without first dunking them in 12 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: a vial of holy water. It's the only way I 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: can expire confidence in my technical trout fishing game. Listen, man, 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: my my mom. Never without holy water my top. Yeah, 15 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: do my entire life. There's been a vial or two 16 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: in the linen closet, like in case someone's new car 17 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: needs to be blessed. I'm okay, I'm not for protection. 18 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, And like she's not overly religious either, but 19 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: there's always and like I'm not kidding, Like she'll come 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: out and it's like, sprinkle it on the tires, Like 21 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: you got a new truck, sprinkles on holy water on 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: the tires. That's an We don't have any of that 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: kind of ritual. You don't know what to say. You're like, yeah, 24 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: that's that's great. I think that's fast. Like I genuinely 25 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,479 Speaker 1: wish we had something like that where we believed enough 26 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: and something we'd be like, yes, I was making a 27 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: joke about holy water and dry plis. You're like, no, No, 28 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 1: that's a thing, dude. Next time you have a sore throat, 29 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: I'll have her ship goes away, got covid holy water? 30 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: Slug it. Anyway, Look, we all have we all have rituals, right. Um. 31 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: It's another one of those things that seems to unite 32 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: all anglers. And we may not all have the same superstitions, 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: but we anglers all seem to cling to some form 34 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: of personal faith or another. And I have to ask, like, 35 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: do you have a particular you have a thing you 36 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: do or don't do when you go fishing? Uh? You 37 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: know I did, Like when I was younger, I definitely did, 38 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: Like I had a lot of those things, and and 39 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: I think primarily from what I remember, I was all 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: about the lucky apparel, you know, like I had my 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: lucky hat, I had lucky socks, I had a lucky shirt. Uh, 42 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I would change the combinations depending on 43 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 1: what I felt like I needed that day. I don't 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: remember pants, underwear, shoes having any special mysticism, and I 45 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: don't know why, but like all other articles of clothing, 46 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: we're fair game. And they were they were important, and 47 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: they were specific, and they had like certain things that 48 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: I did for them. I actually had a lucky pin 49 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: that I would wear and don't have since given to 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: my son. But anyway, these days, it's not so much 51 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: what I wear. It's like it's it's interior, like I 52 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: gotta get my head right. Yeah, no, it is. It 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: is like that sounds stupid, but it's no, Like I 54 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: really feel like like I need to find a sense 55 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: of confidence and certainty that like I'm gonna catch a 56 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: fish and and on those days that are long and 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: slow and I'm just like not feeling it or I'm struggling, 58 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,839 Speaker 1: and and if if I get the sense that that 59 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: that confidence is wavering, I will stop fishing and I'll 60 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: like take a couple of minutes and get myself together 61 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 1: and try and find that sense of confidence. And I 62 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: think that's these days. I think that's as close as 63 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: I get to having having a ritual or superstition, is 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: that I gotta have my head right. Yeah, No, I 65 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: identify with that. I do that all the time. You 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: just have to stop and pause and like collect yourself 67 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: and figure out why you're fishing. Like ship Um, it 68 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: happens too often, a matter of fact. But I used 69 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 1: to have I used to have a lucky Adida's hat. Yeah, 70 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: I wore it for years, right, and then I lost 71 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: it in a Ruba. But I still kept catching a 72 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: bunch of fish on that trip after I lost it, 73 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: So then I never bothered with another lucky fishing hat. 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: I was like, f the lucky fishing hat apparently wasn't 75 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: that lucky. So I don't know, I'm gonna cut you off. 76 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I like, you just reminded me of 77 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: something because my last lucky fishing hat and this is 78 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: super geeky and we'll say something about me, But it 79 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: was like my my Little League All Stars hat that 80 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I held on too until it and it finally disintegrated. 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I found in my mom's house a few years ago, 82 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: and had it had come apart, it was done. Oh, 83 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: this Adida's hat was like it needed to be burned 84 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: or thrown out regard. I mean it was literally it 85 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: was disgusting. I mean it was like brown from years 86 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: of sweat. But I thought it was lucky. And now 87 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't do lucky clothes anymore. I don't 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: do good luck charms. However, I do firmly believe. How 89 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: do I say that getting lucky the night before a 90 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: fishing trip makes you luckier the next day? I have 91 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: not expected I like this idea, I might have to adopt. 92 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Plus I like it, okay, But if you like that, 93 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: here's the other here's the other part of it, and 94 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: don't ask me where this all comes from. I also 95 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 1: believe that pleasuring yourself the night before a trip is 96 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,279 Speaker 1: the kiss of death. Really, and now that that's been said, 97 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: many people, including you, might hate me because you're gonna 98 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: adhere to it, and you're thinking, well, I don't buy that. 99 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: But just in case he's right, What if he's right, 100 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: what if I'm so sorry, I'm gonna have to think 101 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: about that you brought up superstitions, so that's just that's 102 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: that's anyway. A lot of us we adhere to very 103 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: specific superstitions. Of course, we'll get off the pleasure of 104 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: yourself and go to the banana thing. We all know 105 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: about that. Well it's kind of the same. But the 106 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: banana thing, um, you know that's it's bad luck to 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: bring bananas on the boat. That's probably the biggest overarching one. Yeah, no, 108 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: I mean that that. I'd say that. I think that's 109 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 1: the most common fishing superstition, right, like it's bad luck 110 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: to bring bananas on a boat. That bad luck to 111 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: bring banana's fishing, And people get super super heated about that. Yeah. 112 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: Like I know guides and chartered like a lot of 113 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: guys and chartered captains who will lose their minds when 114 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: someone brings a banana on their boat. Yeah, so do 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: I to the point where I almost find it obnoxious, 116 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: Like not the belief per se. If you believe that, 117 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: that's fine. But I know a handful of guys like 118 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: their their their boats and trucks are like slathered with 119 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: those no banana stickers with with a slash through them. 120 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: And I'm like, come, on that's not that's like a 121 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: salt life sticker, Like you really need that on your boat, 122 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 1: you know. But um, there are some captains that will 123 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: go so far as to demand their clients throw anything 124 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: even banana related overboard. I've seen it. I've seen dudes 125 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: throw banana boats, sunscreen off the boat. They don't like 126 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: Banana Republic shirts. Um. Then I have my personal favorite. 127 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 1: Is there there's a whole legend about slicing the tags 128 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: off Fruit of the Loom underwear. Never mind the fact 129 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: that Fruit of the Loom does not now, nor has 130 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: it ever, had a banana on any of its tags. Okay, 131 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: And I got so deep into that I actually wrote 132 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: about it. There's a whole story about it. You can 133 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: check out. It's a bar room banner piece on the 134 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 1: metator dot com. It's called Fishing Superstition, Change your underpants Forever. 135 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: That is seriously, go read that one. It's a deep 136 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: dive and a head. It's a really deep dive. And 137 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: I thought I knew all there was to know about 138 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 1: this whole bananas and fishing and boats thing, and then 139 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: you wrote that article and I was like, Oh, there's 140 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot I don't know. But what you don't cover 141 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: in that one, and understandably so, because it's been covered. 142 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 1: Is the real backstory and why bananas on boats are 143 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: ad luck? Right and and and the truth of that 144 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: is that that nobody really knows, Like there's no definitive answer. 145 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 1: There are a few different ones, right like so, so 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: most people think it has something to do with the 147 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: banana boats of the seventeen hundreds that used to that 148 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: that were that they were carrying the fruit from the 149 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Caribbean islands up to the mainland of North America and 150 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: even Europe. And some people say that boats carrying various 151 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: like varied fruit cargo would spoil if they had bananas 152 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: on board, And so sailors began to assume that bananas 153 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: were bad luck, because this is before people understood, you know, 154 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: the whole ethylene gas thing that bananas give off, which 155 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: actually does make fruit spoil. They're like, it's the bananas 156 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: are bad luck. No, it's science. But there's another story 157 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: that sailors would actually slip on the banana peels and 158 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: hurt themselves like a freaking cartoon, which I don't buy. 159 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: There's like this whole host of theories out there. If 160 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: you really want to get into this. But the one 161 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: that I like best, the one that I've always told people, uh, 162 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: is that banana bunches. Back then, the big into bananas 163 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: would carry venomous spiders that were hidden in the nooks 164 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: and crannies, and like at night, those spiders would would 165 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: crawl out and bite the crew in their sleep and 166 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: kill them. Also, so other ships would come upon these 167 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,119 Speaker 1: banana boats just drifting at sea with the whole crew dead. 168 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: That's always been my favorite explanation to And it's a 169 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: creepy image, isn't It's very hard. It's very creepy. Yeah, 170 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: I like that one. So there you go, Uh, do 171 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: with that info what you will. But just remember that 172 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: some people take the banana thing dead serious and it 173 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: I mean, it really could be worse as far as 174 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: universal fishing beliefs go. Um, that one's it's pretty innocuous, really. 175 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean, we could all believe in in you know, 176 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: blood sacrifices to improve your fishing luck. We're not quite there, 177 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: So I'm just all I could picture right now is 178 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: Major League and getting Joe Boo with chicken. Uh. And 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: that would be much messier, you know, that would be 180 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 1: if like if if captains were like, we're not catching anything. 181 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Something's gotta die. That would be I think that would 182 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,359 Speaker 1: give fishing a really bad name. Speaking of blood sacrifices, 183 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: Joe is going to open you up to the history 184 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: of a term for a piece of fishing gear that's 185 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: not as common as it once was. Webster's Dictionary defines 186 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: fish as this week's word is priest. And I'm not 187 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: talking about Father Guido Sarducci here, nor Father Caress and 188 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: Father Marin, though you could say the priests were talking 189 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: about exercise the spirits out of fish, and very rapidly 190 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: and humanely at that, minus all the pea soup and 191 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: cuss words. A priest is a small bat, usually shorter 192 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: than a night stick, though they come in many different sizes, 193 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 1: and they're crafted specifically for dispatching a fish with a 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: sharp blow to the head. It's called a priest to 195 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: play on the notion that it's giving a catch its 196 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: last rites. Now, if this sounds like some backwoods tool 197 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: whittled in an Appalachian holler, you could not be more wrong. 198 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: The priest's origins date back many centuries to Europe, where 199 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: were as common and necessary a piece of on the 200 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 1: water kit, as your fish brain app and line cutters 201 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: ring are today. Furthermore, priests were handed down through generations, 202 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: held in the same regard you might hold a knife 203 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: made in a local forge by an expert bladesmith. In 204 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: many upper class angling circles in Britain and Scotland and France, 205 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: fine handmade priests were presented as gifts. But even if 206 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: you were poor, if you fished, you probably made yourself 207 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: a trustee priest. So how do I know all this? Well, 208 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 1: believe it or not, I own a book called A 209 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Collection of Fishing Priests by British author Dave Watson. It's 210 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: not a very fat book, in fact, it's more like 211 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: a magazine. And when I received an unsolicited complimentary copy 212 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: years ago, I said to myself, who the hell writes 213 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: a book about fishing priests? Now here we are today, 214 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: and you're thanking me for being such a hoarder. In fact, 215 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: I spent forty seven minutes digging around in my frigid 216 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: attic to find this book. That's how much I love you, 217 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: guys and way. Traditional priests were made from a wide 218 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: variety of woods, including walnut, rosewood, boxwood, and maple. But 219 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: one of the most popular woods was Lignum vita. Lignum vita, 220 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: also known as guayacon, is actually the national tree of 221 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: the Bahamas. It only grows in the Caribbean and was 222 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: exported like crazy to Europe starting in the early sixteenth century. 223 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: Lignum vita makes a superb priest because it's incredibly strong, hard, 224 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: and dense. In fact, Europeans used Lignum vita for so 225 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: much that these days it's actually classified as an endangered 226 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: flora now similar to knife making, old school priests featured 227 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: all kinds of unique embellishments and personal touches, such as 228 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 1: brass heads and pewter bands. Some of the most extravagant 229 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: priests in Watson's book, which date back well before the 230 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds, are made of scrimshawled elephant and narwhal ivory 231 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: and barren initials and royal crests. Now, if you're wondering 232 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: when this whole priest thing died off over there and 233 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: they got with the catch and release program, they kind 234 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: of haven't. In fact, Hardy still manufactures trout priests today, 235 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: except they have chrome plated brass thumping heads and e 236 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: v a foam grip and an analyzed aluminum handle. Those 237 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: barbarians right wrong. The fact of the matter is the 238 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: priest stems from what many would call a smarter and 239 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: perhaps even classier angling ethic than we have in the US. 240 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: Even today. There are many European trout and salmon fisheries, 241 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: including within Germany's Black Forest, where our beloved brown trout 242 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: came from, where catch and release angling is strictly forbidden 243 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 1: in the mind of the Brits and many other European countries. 244 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: You do more to protect the fish by making it 245 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: mandatory to kill your first one or two and stop fishing, 246 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: instead of fighting and releasing say twenty fish in a day. 247 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: It was, and in many cases still is the norm 248 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: to simply catch you a salmin or two, give him 249 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: a quick bonk with your priest, and walk away back 250 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 1: to the cottage to enjoy your fresh catch and not 251 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: molest anymore fish that day. But that's just not how 252 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: things are done here, which is why we don't carry 253 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: priests on trout streams. Now you can buy them here, 254 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: they're just not called priests. We have uber American versions, 255 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: such as the offshore angler aluminum fish bat the West 256 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: Coast Thumpers, fish Bonker, and my personal favorite, the Bomack 257 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: Fish Whisper floating fish Billy. Most of these can be 258 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: purchased through bass pro shops or Cabella's. None of them 259 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: are what i'd call heirloom quality. I love that one, man, 260 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: that was That was I'm glad you pick that one. Yeah, 261 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: that was a good choice. You know, when when I 262 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: was when I was a salmon guide, I actually made 263 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 1: my own priest out of a chunk of caribou antler 264 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: that I found in the tundra. And like there was 265 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: a there was a bench grinder at the shop at 266 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: the camp, and I cut it down to this perfect 267 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: fish beating size and I would tuck it in my 268 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 1: waiter belt and carry around. And I was I was 269 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: a confident that it made me look like a badass. 270 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 1: M hm, that's neat. I'm sure you did. Cool. Cool story. Uh. 271 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: And since we're on the subject of people thinking they 272 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: look badass, let's let's take a look at an awkward 273 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: moment in angling, but a picture. This week's awkward moment 274 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: angling comes to us from Alex read and and and 275 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: quick warning, Uh, we're about to make fun of a 276 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: small child and and there was one thing when we 277 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 1: were making fun of childhood, fishing photos of each other. 278 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: But I don't actually know this dude, Like, do you 279 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: know is this someone you know? Because sometimes we've done pictures. No, 280 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: you don't know. No, No, I if it's a buddy 281 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: of mine, I'll shout it out. Alex, I do not 282 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: know you. So this is just some random kid. And 283 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: so I I struggle. I'm struggling with this one. I'm like, 284 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm searching my conscience. Well, like, why am I the 285 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: kind of person who's gonna insult a young boy? It 286 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: looks like he's like seven or eight years old. Man, 287 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh god, I gotta know. I'm gonna I gotta, I 288 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: gotta interrupt your melodrama here because we can just get 289 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: on with it. First of all, yes, we are the 290 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of people who will tease small children, who amuse 291 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: ourselves and others. But the point we have to make 292 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: here is, um, the child is Alex, who is now 293 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: a grown ass man, who sent us what he referred 294 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: to as a This is like a family classic, right, 295 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: This is like the one that the family goes back to. 296 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: He sent this to us and asked us to make 297 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: fun of it. So it's okay, it's all right. I mean, 298 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: we're okay, we're good. Fine, Yes, I was. I was 299 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: just I was working through it. I was trying to 300 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: like figure out if it was okay with me. I 301 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 1: appreciate you. You're taking a really long time. Nobody cares, 302 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: nobody cares about what, No, nobody cares. Okay, we're doing it. 303 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: So let's get to this photo. Okay, the year is 304 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: and I know this because this photo comes with that. 305 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: It's from that era when the date in the picture 306 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: was just automatic, clear like digitally stamped, the orange digitized 307 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: in the in the bottom left corner of the photo. Yeah, 308 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: like it looked like like a like a digital clock. Yeah, 309 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: it's that same kind of kind of tight. There are 310 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: some young people who are probably because I remember you 311 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 1: could you could turn that off in some cameras, but 312 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: like my mom could never figure out how. So all 313 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: of our photos, like in all the albums from that 314 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: certain era there with the bright orange date stamp. Anyway, 315 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: in this shot, young Alex stands proudly in his mismatched 316 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: camo T shirt and hat, miniature work boots and jeans, 317 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: like he's just finished a day of a legal child 318 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: labor sweeping floors at the local steel mill or something 319 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: like that. Oh man, we're digging a new load. And 320 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: and uh, I'm gonna keep going after after that day 321 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: of under the table less than minimum age work, it 322 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: appears Alex blew off some steam at a local pond. 323 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: So one of the things that catches my eye about 324 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: this photo is the Roddy's holding right. It's it's It 325 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: does have that closed faced zeb Coo style reel, you know, 326 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: the one that's that comes standard on your your Spiderman 327 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: Walmart fishing outfit that all kids get. And and you know, 328 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: you know that rod you use it to like it 329 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: doesn't do anything but catch little dinker pan fish or 330 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: stalker trout. That's what that rod is for. But this 331 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: rod that Alex holding is not that rod. This road 332 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: has serious backbone like that. I know you're looking at 333 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: That thing could handle like a big bass or a 334 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: respectable catfish. It's got it's got some serious stubt to it. Yeah, 335 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: I noticed the same thing, and it People who might 336 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: not realize this, You like associate clothes, you know, push 337 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: button roos with little kid rods, but they actually make 338 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: giant ones like zeb coo, like there are people out 339 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: there who prefer that for their cat fishing, like grown people. 340 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: I think that's this That's what this rod looks like 341 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: to me, like a grown person's push button catfish set up. Yeah, 342 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 1: and see, I don't think this was not Alex's first 343 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: fishing rod. And in fact, the rod itself it's a 344 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: good two ft taller than little Alex shot. And he 345 00:18:07,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: would have had to have been like a pretty skilled 346 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,880 Speaker 1: kid to cast that thing, and also like a serious 347 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: danger to anyone standing within his six foot radius right 348 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 1: for at for a little a little kid plinging that 349 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: thing around, and I'd I'd be scared. And Alex's mom 350 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: or dad or whoever took him fishing was either very brave, 351 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: very quick, or just not that smart. But whatever that 352 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: fishing mentor may have lacked in self preservation, they definitely 353 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: made up for in fishing knowledge. Because dangling from the 354 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: end of that line is just an absolute slab, total slab, 355 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: total slab. It's it's the things eight inches minimum, maybe 356 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: over ten. And Alex hadn't yet learned the art of 357 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: extending his arms out away from his body to make 358 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: it like look even more impressive. But even though he 359 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: didn't know how to do that. It still looks big 360 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: freaking huge bluegull. It does. And I got one thing 361 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 1: I cannot figure out is where this picture was taken. Okay, 362 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 1: so Alex is standing on on paving stones in front 363 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: of some some wood lattice, and it looks like he's 364 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: in front of a house, not on a dock or 365 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: at the edge of the water. But the fish is 366 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: still hooked. So either this house borders a body of water, 367 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: or they went fishing, they came home, and then they 368 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: reattached the fish to the hook to stage the photo. Yeah, 369 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: I see, I don't think. I don't think this is 370 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: stage because at Alex's feet right you could you could 371 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 1: see a pile of maybe ten other fish, most of 372 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: which are also stud bluegills, but a couple look like 373 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: pretty decent bass, large amounts. Right. So, if you were 374 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: a kid and you can either pose with a tenant's 375 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: blueboat or a two pound bass, come on, come on, 376 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: you're picking. You're picking the bass every day, or you're 377 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: gonna put all the fish on a stringer and hold 378 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: them all up together like you think they were. They 379 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: were going to pose it. They would do the full 380 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: stringer shot as well, Yeah, yeah, exactly, why not? All right, 381 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: that's a good point, But I'm still I'm still not 382 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: convinced because it seems to me like like those fish, 383 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: the ones you're talking about, it looks like they just 384 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: got dumped out of a bucket right there, just kind 385 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: of laying in this in this, in this pile, and 386 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: there's this puddle that's spreading across the paving stones. So 387 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: I'm I think a bucket drop happened right there. That 388 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: could be the case, or or maybe that puddle has 389 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:29,199 Speaker 1: another source, because if you focus just slightly north of 390 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: that impressive spread of fish and look closely at Alex's jeanes, 391 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: you will notice that he quite recently or perhaps it's 392 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: still in the process of pissing his pants. And that's 393 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: that's the clincher. Oh, it's true. It's true, dude. Like 394 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: when you first sent me this picture, I didn't see it. 395 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: It's like one of those when you see it, I mean, 396 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 1: when you see it's like, what do you do it? 397 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: Why would we make fun of this kid holding all 398 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: these sweet fish? And then uh, and then I realized 399 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 1: he had um treated himself. I got I got it 400 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: from the big Lebowski. I gotta say, though, the best 401 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,400 Speaker 1: part for me is the look on his face, because 402 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: I don't think that kid's feeling any shame, noever. I 403 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: think he's just like none zero. He's He's staring straight 404 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: into that camera with a self satisfied grand like almost 405 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: in defiance, Like I pissed my pants. I also roped 406 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 1: a pile hog fish today and that's that's dedication. Damn it. Oh. 407 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm kind of sad we used the Billy Madison pants 408 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: being clipped last week because I could have doubled up complain. 409 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: I'm also realizing we've run two pants being stories two 410 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,200 Speaker 1: weeks in a row. Uh, and that says something about 411 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: our level of maturity. But this one was too good. 412 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: We had to We had to do this one. It 413 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: does It does say something about our level maturity, but 414 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: it definitely says something about Alex's general sense of self confidence. 415 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: First that he posed for this photo and second that 416 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: he proudly sent it to us to be publicly called out. 417 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: So thank you, Alex. Glad we got to share this 418 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: family classic here. If you want to see this glorious 419 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,120 Speaker 1: photo for yourself, go check out me or Miles Instagram accounts. 420 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: That's at water Miles and at Joe dot Surmelie one 421 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: three eight. Thank you Alex for proffering yourself at the 422 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: bent Alter ridicule. If you have an awkward fishing photo 423 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:29,440 Speaker 1: that you'd like to offer up for consideration, please send 424 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,120 Speaker 1: it to bent at the meat eater dot com. Your 425 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 1: sacrifices benefit the good of us all indeed they do, 426 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: and we're gonna continue benefiting the greater good right now 427 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: because it's time for fish news. Fish news that escalated quickly, 428 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: all right this week. Before we kickoff news, I've got 429 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 1: to give a shout out to listener Eric Rude today 430 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: because this has got to be one of the most 431 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 1: whacked out things I have I have ever heard. All Right, now, 432 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: do you remember you remember a while back we did 433 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 1: that news story on odd bits, Remember that, and then 434 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: we asked our fine listeners to please let us know 435 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: the weirdest thing maybe they've ever used his bait, righte 436 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 1: and we we've gotten some, but there haven't been any 437 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: that I was like, oh, I never thought of that one. 438 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been stuff like cigarette butts and and 439 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: things like y yeah, yeah, yeah, forget all those because 440 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: this is the this is the this is the ender 441 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: right here. Okay, So Eric got hit me up on Instagram, 442 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: right and he wrote, when I was eleven, I had 443 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: my tonsils taken out and asked the doc if I 444 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: could have them. No, he looked at my mother and 445 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: she said he's his father's child, but go ahead. I 446 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: later took said tonsils out and caught a couple channel 447 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: cats on them in a local creek. Now I had 448 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,679 Speaker 1: the same look on my face you do right now 449 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,640 Speaker 1: when I read this, And of course I was like, dude, 450 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: is this real? Are you serious? This really happened? And 451 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: He's like, full scouts on her man. I caught channel 452 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: cats on my top consols and then Eric and then 453 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 1: Eric also pointed out that if any of you recall 454 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 1: the photo that ran on the Meat Eat or insta 455 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: page of a guy that shot himself in the army, 456 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: he was shot in the arm with a crossbow. That 457 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: was him, crossbow bolt and arm guy was also Eric Rude, 458 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: who used his tonsils for catfish. Eric, you have led 459 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: an interest in life. So I was like, I I 460 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: have to I I mean, I believe him. He said 461 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: he wishes the catfish he caught were bigger there's no photos, 462 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: but apparently the tonsils did not yield very big bait pieces. 463 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: I guess in eleven year olds tonsils are like not 464 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: our kind of still those are not big chunks of meat. 465 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:42,360 Speaker 1: Those are I can see that the creativity, man I do. 466 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking it through. I'm like, what else is? 467 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: What else could be done with that? I'm gonna leave 468 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 1: it alone, though, Well, I think I think one of 469 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,520 Speaker 1: the funniest aspects if that was me and I had 470 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 1: my tonsils out and ask keep my mom would be 471 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: like you out of your mind? Absolutely not. It's ridiculous, 472 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: Like my mom wouldn't have let me, let me keep 473 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: my tonsils? Um, I don't. I don't know what my 474 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,720 Speaker 1: mom would have done that. I'm trying to think it through. 475 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: I think she would have looked at me with the 476 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: look that I've got on my face right now, like 477 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: what why? What do you part? Was in a glad bag? 478 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: Do you wrap them in gauze? Like? How do you 479 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: get this home? Were they in the freezer for a time? 480 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 1: With them? There were piece they had to have been anyway, Eric, 481 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: that was that was trippy man um alright, So I think, uh, 482 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 1: that concludes shoutouts this week unless you have anything. I'm 483 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: gonna reserve my time for for my news stories because 484 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: I got I got to to run a little long 485 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: this week, so time okay, all right, then we can 486 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: we can move on here to the real and actual, 487 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: at least sort of news. And remember this is a competition, 488 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: Miles and I do not know which news stories the 489 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: other guy found. At the end of this the Magnificent 490 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: Phil with his sidekick PS five, will weigh in and 491 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: declare a winner. And as soon as he's done, we're 492 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: gonna hear from all y'all's favorite. Mr Lance V. You 493 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: have the floor. You are up big in excellent light, 494 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: and I'm gon kick off with you kind of. You 495 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: kind of set me up with that idea of pseudo 496 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: news because the story that I'm gonna talk about has 497 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 1: gotten some decent coverage already in other news sources, but 498 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 1: really as pseudo news, and I'm gonna try and try 499 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: and shoehorned into something valid. I'm gonna and focus on 500 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: fish and fisheries. So you may have heard about the 501 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: invasive hippos in Colombia? Right? Did you catch this one? 502 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: You know? I I remember a jingling of that that, well, 503 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:33,639 Speaker 1: I'm very not well versed in the invasive hippo, so 504 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: to get to give to give some basic context here 505 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: for those who aren't really paying attention yet. Hippo's native 506 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: to Africa, not South America, right and and and they 507 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: got there thanks to the infamous drug kingpin Pablo Escobar. 508 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: So Escobar created his own kind of like Noah's Ark 509 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: at his estate with exotic animals from all over the world, 510 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: and then after his death in the columb In government 511 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,719 Speaker 1: took over the place and the vast majority of all 512 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: those animals got relocated as zoos, but the four hippopotamuses 513 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: were allowed to remain, mostly because capturing and transporting them 514 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: would have been like really difficult and expensive and dangerous. 515 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: They're just like, leave the hippos. They're they're fine, it's cool. 516 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: So over the past few decades, those hippos have thrived, 517 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: and now from the original four, they're an estimated eighty 518 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: to a hundred of them, and they're no longer confined 519 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 1: to the ponds former property Escobar's drive through a safari 520 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: they got out. At least half the population has relocated 521 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: to the Magdalena, Columbia's largest and most productive river. The 522 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: Magdalena runs the length of the western side of the country, 523 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: and and that's that's the populated side, Like that's where 524 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: all the major cities and towns and people it's it's 525 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: basically it's like the Mississippi Columbia's it's their primary river, 526 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,439 Speaker 1: and it hosts a a pretty broad diversity of native fauna. 527 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: Fish wise, we're talking like over two hundred different species, 528 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: including a bunch of different cichlids and like really cool 529 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 1: as catfish like you find all across South America. And 530 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: there's this this weird looking miniature pike thing that's like 531 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: really tiny, but it's like it's like a pike, only shrunk. 532 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: It's I don't know if you'd fish for it, but 533 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: it's cool. And the marquis to us anyway, Golden Dorado. 534 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: But in a familiar story, the fish in that river 535 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 1: they're not doing so well. Researchers estimate that fish populations 536 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: have dropped as much as since for all the reasons 537 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: you're you're probably thinking pollution, siltagan dam is illegal, or fishing, 538 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: you know the deal. So many news outlets seem to 539 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: be covering this hippo story just because they want to 540 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: use the headline cocaine hippos, and I get that like 541 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: that is a that is a frightening prospect. Hippos are 542 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: are scary on their own, just like in a natural state. 543 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: The idea of hippos running around on like a coked 544 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: up rampa age, as if their finance bros blown off 545 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: steam Atlantic City, that's legitimately frightening to me. But let's 546 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: be clear, the hippos have nothing to do with cocaine, 547 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: except for the fact that drug money brought them there 548 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: in the first place. These are not coked up hippos. 549 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: Don't believe all that. I'm less interested in the catchy 550 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: headline and how the hippos got there in the first 551 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: place that I am about how these invasive species are 552 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: affecting the fishery and that ecosystem, and on that one, 553 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: conclusions are mixed. So some researchers are understandably concerned that 554 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: introducing non native large animals could further stress a river 555 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: system that's already struggling. Hippos are very very good at 556 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: moving nutrients from land to water. The herbivores that that 557 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: wander around on the land at night, grazing on plants 558 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: and grasses, but they spend the daylight hours sleeping, lounging, 559 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: and pooping in the water. That poop carries nutrients, and 560 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: as we've discussed lots of times before, too many nutrients 561 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: and water can cause problems like algae blooms, cilento bacteria, 562 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: as well as lowering oxygen levels and, according to at 563 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: least one study, making fish more vulnerable. Two predators. Hippos 564 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: are also known as as ecosystem engineers. By moving their 565 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: massive bodies through muddy river channels and floodplains, they can 566 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: change how water flows, creating or reshaping channels. Another concern 567 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: is that they might displace or compete with native species 568 00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: like manatees and otters, but other researchers are not convinced 569 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 1: that having the hippos around is necessarily bad for the 570 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: Magdalena River right. Keep in mind, this river is pretty 571 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: screwed up by human intervention, so some some scientists hypothesized 572 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: that hippos might be refilling a niche. South America used 573 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: to have a variety of of large herbivores like this one. 574 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: It's it's weird. The toxodon, which I had never heard 575 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: of before, and it actually looks like a hippo, even 576 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: though it wasn't this. The might have been a semi 577 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: aquatic large mammal and it was wiped out about eleven 578 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, probably by overhunting. But again that years ago, 579 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: what were we talking about. More contemporary examples would include 580 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: top hears, which are a pig like herbivores that also 581 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: are found around the water. They love water and they're 582 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: they're native to that area and they're currently endangered. So 583 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:28,080 Speaker 1: hippo's might and I stress, might be performing functions that 584 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: these other animals used to do, dispersing seeds, moving nutrients around, 585 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: and grazing and controlling stream side vegetation. But there's one 586 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: thing that hippos are definitely doing to help out fish 587 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: in the part of the Magdalena that they're currently occupying. 588 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: They are scaring the crap out of poachers. Oh that's it. 589 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: Twit Okay, I was waiting for the punchline, but okah, 590 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: here it is. Here it is. But before the hippos 591 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 1: started proliferating, illegal dynamite fishing was a pretty common occurrence 592 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: around there, Like poachers would just show up and dynamite 593 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: whole section of the river and take out all the fish. 594 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: And now they're not doing that because hippos are straight 595 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 1: up terrifying, Like can you imagine that? Yeah, I mean 596 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: they have those cheesy nature shows that are like top 597 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: ten most deadly animals, and like people always think it's 598 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: gonna be the lion or the liger or something. Now, dude, 599 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: it's the hippo, like kill more people than oh yeah ship, yeah, 600 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: oh yeah, why far? It's kind of like, you know, 601 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 1: you know, like moose kill more people in Alaska than bears. 602 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 1: Everybody got worry if the moose, you gotta worry about. 603 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: Hippos kill far more people than all those scary predators 604 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: in Africa. They may not eat people, but they sure 605 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: do like the chomp crush and drowned them with those 606 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: huge tusks. And hippos are not afraid of anything. And 607 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: I can speak to this from personal experience. My first 608 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: job out of college was a teaching gig ahead in Botswana. 609 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: And even though I like I lived down south in 610 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: the capital city, teaching gig in Botswana, Yeah yeah, when 611 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: I was twenty one. It was my first job out 612 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: of college. Go ahead, what have you done? I've said 613 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: this before, like every time we do a new podcast. 614 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: You were like I was zip line instructor and not 615 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: like I'm like Jesus, I did, I didn't do that. 616 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: But so anyway, when I when I was when I 617 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: was teaching down there, like I lived in the capital city, 618 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: which is in the south, but I would head up 619 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: to the north to the Delta area whenever I got 620 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: some time off to go fishing, obviously, and I very 621 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: quickly learned to be afraid of hippos, Like I once 622 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: saw a hippo chase a thirty foot double decker cruise 623 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: boat and and the boat blinked first, like the boat 624 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: was the one that bailed out of that situation. So 625 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: I am far more wary of hippos than any other 626 00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: creature I've ever encountered when I was outside, Like bears, sharks, 627 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: no hippos, dude. So far in Colombia, no one has 628 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: yet been mauled, but it's kind of only a matter 629 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: of time now. To sum this all up. In the past, 630 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: I have talked about how I'm opposed to introducing new 631 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: species to try and fix problems humans have created in systems. 632 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 1: Balance Like, generally, I think that's a bad idea, So 633 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna take some heat here, but I'm kind 634 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 1: of on board with these hippos colonizing and protecting this river. 635 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,720 Speaker 1: Like alright, like I said, the river is in pretty 636 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: bad shape already, and and biologists think it's unlikely that 637 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: the hippo population will get completely out of control because 638 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: they're they're geographically restricted in this one river valley, and 639 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,719 Speaker 1: you've got the Andes Mountains on the east that are 640 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: a solid, impassable barrier, so there's no danger of them 641 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: getting into the Amazon, which would be a legitimate So 642 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,279 Speaker 1: I just personal benion on this one. I've I've read 643 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: a fair amount I think. I I think the approaches 644 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: like the scientists should keep monitoring the situation which they're doing, 645 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 1: and see how it plays out. And like if things 646 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 1: get worse, if if the manatees start dying off, or 647 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: the river chemistry gets all out of whack, or the 648 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: fish start disappearing even faster, kill the hippos. It's not 649 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: like they're hard to find. But in the meantime, I 650 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: kind of say, like keeping eye on things and see 651 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: how this one plays out. I kind of like the 652 00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: hippo's guarding against the illegal fishing. I'm all for this, dude, 653 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: throw a few below the Connor window. Damn in Maryland. 654 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 1: You want to have striper poaching problems there anymore? All 655 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: these guys with trout clubs in North Jersey, get you 656 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: a club, hippo not a problem, you know what I'm saying. 657 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: I like it. I do too. I didn't go there. 658 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: There's a whole other story about how hippo's almost became 659 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: brought over to America's as a food source back in 660 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, it almost happened, but thankfully someone thought better. 661 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: They almost got brought over to Florida. Here's a strange segue, 662 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:38,680 Speaker 1: um that I had nothing until you just said that. Uh, 663 00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: if you were if they ever were to come here 664 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: to Florida or wherever, and you had to filet a 665 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 1: hippo for the table, you might want an electric file 666 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: at knife. I would, and they're supposedly delicious. I'm gonna 667 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,239 Speaker 1: throw that out there, and I would definitely want an 668 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: electric fila. Listen, I knew a person who shall definitely 669 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,840 Speaker 1: go nameless that once swore that not in this country, 670 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: but in another country whereas where it was heptable. He 671 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: once enjoyed semanity, and he was like it's delicious, it's 672 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: out of control. Good, I believe it. It's okay. So 673 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: we're not fleeing any hippos that I'm aware of, but 674 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: listen up for everyone who who loves a good fish fry, 675 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: and in this case, I'm particularly talking to my southern friends. 676 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,200 Speaker 1: Right now, Rapila is recalling one and twenty eight thousand 677 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 1: battery operated filet knives because then some bitches are catching fire. Yes, 678 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 1: so this this comes to us, uh from the Minneapolis 679 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: Star Tribune. Um and it says a Twin Cities company 680 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: is recalling one thousand battery operated fishing knives after a 681 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: dozen or so caught on fire. So it's not like 682 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: they're all catching on fire, but but enough to to 683 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: make this a thing. Um. And of course Rapila USA 684 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:52,399 Speaker 1: is based in Minnetonka, which now, for a second week 685 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: in a row, gives me license to say, why don't 686 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: you purify yourselves in the waters of Lake Minnetonka. Well, 687 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: this is a much less in depth poignant story than yours, 688 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: but I'm going to continue on. Uh. They issued the 689 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: recall last week of these rechargeable filet knives after it 690 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: learned of batteries overheating when plugged into a charger not 691 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: produced by Rappel, according to the US Consumer Product Safety Commission. Now, 692 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: the knife in question here is the Rapple Ion, which 693 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,799 Speaker 1: which runs on rechargeable lithium batteries, and I don't own one. 694 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 1: I've never used one, but I looked it up and naturally, 695 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,800 Speaker 1: when you buy this knife, it comes with a charger. 696 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 1: So the statement they made is a little unclear because 697 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Rapple is saying this sometimes happened 698 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: with the charger they provide but did not produce. In 699 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: other words, it's not like a wrapper a brand charger 700 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: that comes with it. They buy chargers and give you 701 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: one of the knife. Or are they saying this issue 702 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 1: is occurring when a charger that is not the charger 703 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: they provided is being used to charge the knife, which 704 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,399 Speaker 1: is also possible because I'm only speaking for myself here. 705 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 1: I have a ridiculous habit of losing charging chords, particularly 706 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: those like when when they for ship that I don't use. 707 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: Often know what I'm saying, Like I I have at 708 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: least three rechargeable spotlights in the garage. I can't find 709 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 1: the damn cord for any of those. You know, like my, my, 710 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: my pork, it's been enjoying the power wheels a TV 711 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: for a year. It's like it's like inching along the 712 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: living room. I don't know what I do with the court, right, 713 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:22,360 Speaker 1: so I can I can totally see some fish dudes 714 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 1: like getting all excited about the knife, charging it, using 715 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: it for a while, losing the cord and just like 716 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: Jerry rigging it to a lawnmower battery. You know, I mean, 717 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: I have I have good friends in Louisiana, right, Like 718 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,800 Speaker 1: they wear an electric filet knife on their belt daily 719 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 1: in case impromptu cleaning of a hundred suck a lot 720 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 1: pops up. But if something needs charging, uh and and 721 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: you have no cord, that boys will also figure out 722 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: how to charge it for you. So I'm not really 723 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,280 Speaker 1: it's it's it's very unclear, But I find it mildly 724 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: funny because these aren't cheap, right, they cost a hundred 725 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,800 Speaker 1: bucks that they're good knof, So you could see somebody 726 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: getting this, you know, some meat fisherman for Christmas and 727 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: like you know, walking out back within glue one fifty 728 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: full of speckled trout all excited, and that suckers just 729 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: melting on the cutting board. Um. Luckily though, none of 730 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: these fires have caused any injury or major damage. And 731 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: Rappila is good people, And here's what they say. Anyone 732 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: with one of these knives should stop using it. Immediately 733 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: remove the battery and look for a white E t 734 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 1: L Safety certification label on the battery and if it's 735 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 1: If you have one of these and it's not there, 736 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: contact Rappila and they will send you a free replacement 737 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 1: battery so your knife does not burn up. They will 738 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: hook it up. And if anyone in my area had 739 00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,840 Speaker 1: this issue and just feels naked without their electric blade, 740 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: holler at me, because I have about six of them 741 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: that I never use. So the generosity at the end 742 00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 1: of that statement not just from from from what do 743 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 1: you do you use electric file at knives I have? 744 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't, So I don't want to go too deep 745 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 1: into this because it could eat up some time. I 746 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:58,720 Speaker 1: really I love something about using just a classic filet knife. 747 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 1: And and there's a the purest part of me that 748 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really like electric file And I was having said 749 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: all that if you got cut up a ton of fish, 750 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: they're super efficient, they're super fish. I don't I don't 751 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,920 Speaker 1: have a problem with them. I don't like denigrate other 752 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 1: people for using them. No, I just personally like a 753 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: nice filet knife in standard form, and we're on the 754 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: exact same page. I like, I get it if you're 755 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: a charter captain down south or and like you like 756 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: every day you have to do a mess of trout 757 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: and reds, totally get it. I don't catch enough fish 758 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: for that. Like I am just not that good, you know. 759 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I brought home enough 760 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: fish and I was like, oh, ship, this is so daunting. 761 00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: I need power tools. And then if I have something 762 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: like really special like a tuna, I don't want to 763 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: rips all through that. So like you, it's like delicate 764 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: brain surgery, Like I want to feel the knife tip 765 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: touch every rib, you know what I mean. So there 766 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 1: you go, watch out. Don't let your file at knife 767 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: burn up. Where are you gonna go with that? Mile? 768 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: Oh gosh, that is that is a hard one. I 769 00:40:56,840 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: will say it before we leave it completely. I do 770 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 1: still use the classic Rappola file at knife that sent 771 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: straight up a knife absolutely that are that are a 772 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: dexter baby. Those are the ones I have always used them, 773 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: and I've always had good luck with them they make, 774 00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 1: so I'm glad to hear that they're standing by it, 775 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:15,920 Speaker 1: even if they may have made a little bit of 776 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 1: a mess up there. I'm gonna hearken back a couple 777 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 1: of weeks to a story that you were telling about 778 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:35,640 Speaker 1: the lower Susquehanna, I think, and the flatheads, right, and 779 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: like you were talking about how there were all these 780 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: rumors of huge fish in that river, right, not just flatheads, 781 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: but all kinds of different fish, and a bunch of 782 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: the lower rivers around you. Yeah, say not that one 783 00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: in particular, but all these eastern rivers with that sort 784 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: of lower damned in it's always like that's where the 785 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: big ones are, got them. Yeah, And if you remember, 786 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: my response was like, well don't say sample remember, like 787 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 1: like a total snooty and no, that's not a thing here. 788 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: So right, Yeah, no, I'm not about pretty wrong, not 789 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: at all. But that got me thinking right and it 790 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,800 Speaker 1: helped me, like, it gave me a little context to 791 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: get out of my my western river focus that because 792 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 1: because like most of the major rivers out here are 793 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: very aggressively monitor and it managed and I just I 794 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,640 Speaker 1: got stuck in my own experience, and I forgot that's 795 00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 1: not the case in most places, Like that's not the 796 00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: case most of the country. Uh, And it is here 797 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,560 Speaker 1: because the fish populations are just so valuable to local economies, 798 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: right they they management agencies are told, like, keep an 799 00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,839 Speaker 1: eye on this because it's shorworth a lot of money, right, 800 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,680 Speaker 1: that's what they have to do. So in order to 801 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: do that, management agencies rely on on a technology that's 802 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 1: been around since the sixties called electro fishing. And I 803 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: know you're familiar with this, but but other people might 804 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 1: not be, and to vastly oversimplify it, Like it involves 805 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 1: using these machines that create a low level electric field 806 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 1: in a small area of water, and the fish that 807 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,280 Speaker 1: are around are simultaneously stunned and drawn to the source 808 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 1: of the current. So you stick these wands, these two 809 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: ones into the into the water and like it's crazy, man, 810 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: the pool just these fish come to the service that 811 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:19,120 Speaker 1: I've done it. I've done it. It's it's nuts. Yeah, 812 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,959 Speaker 1: it's insane. And then you know, the biole just turned 813 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: the and the text turned these things on. All the 814 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,319 Speaker 1: fish come up, they they net them. It's just like 815 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: this crazy net game, trying to get them before they 816 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,520 Speaker 1: flow out of the pool and throw them into buckets 817 00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,359 Speaker 1: so they can they can measure them, they can count them, 818 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 1: and then off of that they make estimates about the 819 00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,839 Speaker 1: population of the river and how well the fish are doing. 820 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,799 Speaker 1: And right now, that's not only the gold standard for 821 00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 1: measuring fish stocks, it's just about the only way we 822 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: know how to do it that makes any sense, right, Like, 823 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 1: that's about all we got. But it's really expensive, it's 824 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: really labor intensive, and it does have some mortality, Like 825 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: some fish do die from the shocking and the handling. 826 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,839 Speaker 1: White fish especially, Man, I've seen I've seen whitefish hit 827 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: that current and their gills explode, like it's the weirdest thing. 828 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: It's just like blood ships up and they're done. I've 829 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,400 Speaker 1: only ever done it for trout. And while most of 830 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: them are okay, like you gets some tiny fingerling, like 831 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,279 Speaker 1: there's casualties of war. Not many, but they're they're right. 832 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not dogging on electrophishing. Like you said, it's 833 00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 1: a gold standard and it's really important, but that those 834 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 1: are just the realities. It's it's it's super expensive, it's 835 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: super labor intensive, and there there are some some casualties. 836 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,399 Speaker 1: So while electro fishing is it's gonna remain the most 837 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 1: comprehensive tool for monitoring fish stocks, another option might be 838 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: coming up soon. In the past couple of weeks, I 839 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 1: found two studies that were published about using environmental DNA 840 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: known as e d NA to detect fish and bodies 841 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,399 Speaker 1: of water. Right. So, so fish, just like any other 842 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,279 Speaker 1: living creature, they shed their DNA into the environment around them, 843 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,800 Speaker 1: and this technology allows researchers to just take a water 844 00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 1: sample and then test that sample for the presence of 845 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: particular fish. So one study which was out of Oregon 846 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,880 Speaker 1: State University, this one's focused on native fish like desirable fish, 847 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,880 Speaker 1: and they found that they could use e d N 848 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 1: a testing to track the presence of native cutthroat and 849 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: headwater streams, which is a particularly hard thing to test for. Right, 850 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: because they do make those electro phishing backpacks, like you 851 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 1: can carry them on your back, But carrying those things, 852 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 1: those shocking packs with a crew of fisheries text like 853 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: way deep into the mountains. Yeah, yeah, it's it's rough. 854 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,879 Speaker 1: And so if this like the the idea behind this 855 00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,360 Speaker 1: is is that instead of having to do all that, 856 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: you could just send one person up there to collect 857 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,359 Speaker 1: water samples all the way up and and figure out 858 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: where the fish are and where they aren't. And and 859 00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 1: I want to I want to stress that the researchers 860 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: are very clear on this that e d N A 861 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: testing will not replace shocking surveys, but it offers a cheaper, 862 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: easier compliment, right, Like, there's no with with with this. 863 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,239 Speaker 1: With this method, with e DNA, you can't tell the 864 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 1: size of the condition of the fish. You just know 865 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 1: that they're there, so you won't replace it. But it's 866 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,480 Speaker 1: an interesting compliment. And I see, I don't want to 867 00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: jump ahead because I don't know where you're going, but 868 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: I I have a lot of questions which I'm sure 869 00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: there are no answers to, like dilution, Like how how 870 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: far up in that system do you need to be 871 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:20,919 Speaker 1: to get the water if I get it, if there's 872 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: if there's cutties in the headwaters, how far down can 873 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: I sample and still get an accurate read before all 874 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: that DNA is diluted. I think it's pretty localized. Otherwise 875 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 1: it wouldn't tell him much, right like, they know, Hey, 876 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 1: just in this stretch right here, we know they're here. 877 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: Um and and so that part useful interesting. But I 878 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,440 Speaker 1: also found another study out of Cornell same week that 879 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:46,160 Speaker 1: shows another way that fisheries managers might use E d 880 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,000 Speaker 1: n A. In that study, the authors were focusing on 881 00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 1: invasive species. Specifically, they were testing on a round gobies, 882 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 1: which are small fish that are originally native to Eurasia. 883 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: And then and they got into the Great Lakes in 884 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,960 Speaker 1: the nineties through a ship ballast and they just took over. 885 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: And we're not gonna we're not gonna get into the 886 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: Gobi debate right now. We've we've touched on that before. 887 00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure that again, but that's not the point of 888 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 1: the story. The point is that just by testing water 889 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: samples and lakes, they were able to determine the presence 890 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: of gobies, not only that, the density of the Gobi 891 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: population and even their origin and levels of genetic diversity, 892 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:27,280 Speaker 1: So like where these particular gobies came from and and 893 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 1: and how genetically the verse they were if they just 894 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: came from single source origins, and this could be really 895 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,720 Speaker 1: useful and cost effective for monitoring and stopping the spread 896 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,920 Speaker 1: of invasives. Right just by taking a water sample and 897 00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: looking at it, scientists might be able to determine if 898 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,840 Speaker 1: non natives are starting to get a foothold somewhere, and 899 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,399 Speaker 1: if they are, how fast they're reproducing and with what 900 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: level of success. Right, So, so, like one of the 901 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,839 Speaker 1: major issues that we see with with specificy with things 902 00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: like gobies and zebra muscles is that they're they're super small, 903 00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 1: and they're they're pretty well camouflaged, right, so by the 904 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: time anyone actually sees them, they're probably everywhere, or agencies 905 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,360 Speaker 1: have to be like crazy diligent and spend tons of 906 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,799 Speaker 1: money to monitor whether or not they show up, right, 907 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,400 Speaker 1: And this this technology could allow those resource managers to 908 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,640 Speaker 1: get out ahead of invasive aquatic species and make targeted 909 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,359 Speaker 1: and effective mitigation plans. So that's where I see as 910 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: being really cool. Yeah, I mean that's very fascinating. Again 911 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,400 Speaker 1: that there's so many questions though, I mean it sounds 912 00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 1: like with the with the Gobi study, they can do 913 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 1: so much with so little. But then I I immediately 914 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: jumped like two snakeheads. So if if you have a 915 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,880 Speaker 1: lake or or whatever impoundment connected to a known waterway 916 00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: where they are, like, how many snakeheads have to get 917 00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:51,160 Speaker 1: in there before just a water test? Let you even 918 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 1: know they're there. You know what I mean. It's it's 919 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: it's I'm being rhetorical right now. I just find that 920 00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,919 Speaker 1: part fascinating, Like if two snake heads get in there 921 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: and it's a three acre body of water, or will 922 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,759 Speaker 1: they read How they seem to have refined that so 923 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 1: quickly to gobies is pretty awesome like that, And I'll 924 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:11,120 Speaker 1: tell you I'm all for it just for for safety reasons, 925 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,520 Speaker 1: because I've shocked fish twice in my life, and the 926 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,479 Speaker 1: first time I had to watch from the sidelines because 927 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,600 Speaker 1: I was the idiot that showed up with studded boots 928 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 1: studded metal studs in his waiting boots and they were like, ha, 929 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: you were the boots with the studs. You're gonna have 930 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: to stand over there on the bank, so um yeah. 931 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,759 Speaker 1: And then and then the second time I got to 932 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: talk like if you fee your heart fluttering at all, 933 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,920 Speaker 1: please let somebody know. I'm like, you know what, I 934 00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: just I just want to look at the trout in 935 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:42,359 Speaker 1: the bucket. You do the shocking. It's it's I've only 936 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,000 Speaker 1: done it with the backpack ones in high mountain streams, 937 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 1: which again I can attest their heavy and they're real 938 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: pain in the has to carry up long trails. Um, 939 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: I've never got to do the boat surveys. I've always 940 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,959 Speaker 1: wanted to. Yeah, no, me, they're me there. It looks 941 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 1: super cool. But this is uh man, there's so much 942 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 1: there's so much we can do with that, so many places. 943 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 1: If that sort of takes a hold, if we start, 944 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,919 Speaker 1: if they the speed at which this seems to be going, 945 00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: and the ways that E d n A like just 946 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,680 Speaker 1: taking a water sample and knowing what's there and in 947 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: what density and where it came from, that could be 948 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 1: very useful information. Absolutely so the only tie in I 949 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:22,359 Speaker 1: have is um. If you're a sushi fan, perhaps one 950 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 1: could argue that a shocked fish would taste more delicious 951 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,120 Speaker 1: as it was less stressed than one that falls on 952 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: the end of the line. How about that it comes 953 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:32,839 Speaker 1: up quickly? You know. I had to, you know, because 954 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go culinary here, a little bit a little funky, um, 955 00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,480 Speaker 1: not so fresh. And I'm gonna assume that we do, 956 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: in fact have plenty of listeners like me, and I 957 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: believe you that just go gagaf for sushi. I am 958 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: a sushi at I just and and even though because 959 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:49,879 Speaker 1: where I live. I do get the opportunity to make 960 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,960 Speaker 1: my own on occasion. If we get tuna ber neither 961 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,319 Speaker 1: sea bass or whatever, I'm just as happy to go 962 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: to a restaurant or get the mysterious half price sushi 963 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: buffet sushi, or sushi from the sushi department at shop. Right. 964 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't really care, right, I just love sushi. Um. Now, 965 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure, at least I'm guessing this was very different 966 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,400 Speaker 1: for you growing up in Hawaii. But for me, as 967 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: a kid in the Northeast, sushi was was very weird 968 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:16,719 Speaker 1: and like you really had to go out of your 969 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,880 Speaker 1: way to get it, like to a restaurant in Philly 970 00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:24,120 Speaker 1: or New York. Right, I'm sure you grew up right exactly, 971 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: but like Little League Picnics. Well, there you go. Okay, 972 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,479 Speaker 1: so it's very different, but now it's it's everywhere here, right, 973 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,000 Speaker 1: And um. What people may not realize though, is that 974 00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 1: the sushi we consume now is actually like a relatively 975 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:42,160 Speaker 1: recent invention, first appearing in the early twentieth century, and 976 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: what we eat is sort of like a dumb down, 977 00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:48,480 Speaker 1: pretty more presentable version of traditional sushi. And I found 978 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,799 Speaker 1: this story on the site Atlas Obscura titled to make 979 00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: Japan's original sushi first age fish for several months and 980 00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,799 Speaker 1: it's it's it's actually a really fascinating article centered around 981 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,240 Speaker 1: a seventy five year old sushi restaurant in the city 982 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: of Wakiyama that specializes in making sushi in its ancient form. 983 00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 1: And they they call this sushi narazushi. And to make it, 984 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,279 Speaker 1: you pack rice into salted fish carcasses and let it 985 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 1: age for months. And uh, the owner of the restaurant says, 986 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 1: since you're fermenting it, the taste is more similar to 987 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 1: cheese or yogurt than fish. Okay. And furthermore, at this restaurant, 988 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: for fifty three U s dollars per taste, they will 989 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:37,200 Speaker 1: serve you thirty year aged sushi. And it says it's 990 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: so dirt composed thirty year and it says it's so 991 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: decomposed that it's textually more of a thick gruel than 992 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:48,440 Speaker 1: a modern day sushi roll. It says, while some chunks 993 00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,640 Speaker 1: of fish keep their shape, time and bacteria liquefies the 994 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: mixture to the point that it can only be used 995 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: as a condiment, like you just put a dollop of 996 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:58,319 Speaker 1: it on some on some rice and it's said to 997 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,880 Speaker 1: be sour, pungent and mildly sweet. Um. But this style 998 00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 1: of sushi, this fermented sushi, was first recorded in Japan 999 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,560 Speaker 1: in the eighth century. And of course back then this 1000 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,560 Speaker 1: was out of out of necessity, right it was. It 1001 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: was a preservation method. But now it's considered a delicacy 1002 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: because it takes so long to make. And fun thing 1003 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: I learned from this is that the word sushi is 1004 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 1: actually derived from the Japanese word for sour. Never knew that, um. 1005 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: And there's so much interesting stuff about sushi history in this. 1006 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,160 Speaker 1: It's quite a rabbit hole. But it's funny because it 1007 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: illustrates um a full sort of coming around of sushi 1008 00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 1: in that the O g sushi. You know, it was 1009 00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: the nasty fish fermented for years. Then as refrigeration technology advanced, 1010 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,640 Speaker 1: there was no need to ferment, and sushi, as as 1011 00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: we know it started as a legit fast food or 1012 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,360 Speaker 1: street food in Japan, and then it became this weird, fancy, 1013 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 1: mysterious thing to US Americans for decades and now in 1014 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,440 Speaker 1: one you can buy it at a gas station. So 1015 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,719 Speaker 1: like it's kind of crazy, like how the whole the 1016 00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: whole pattern came full circle and um, you know, I 1017 00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,239 Speaker 1: mean I love one. Someone says, like I usually get 1018 00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,399 Speaker 1: the California Roll, but I got crazy and tried eel 1019 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 1: last time. Yeah, okay, try this. So for the sushi 1020 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,120 Speaker 1: freaks out there that you know, I love a good 1021 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,280 Speaker 1: piece of blue fin o G sushi was nasty fermented 1022 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,120 Speaker 1: fish paste. That's what I got. I try it, though 1023 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:20,440 Speaker 1: I would be if I was at that restaurant. I 1024 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: feel like I had to try that just to say 1025 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:25,880 Speaker 1: I did. Oh yeah, I would definitely, I would try it. 1026 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,520 Speaker 1: You lost me a gruel, that was the That was 1027 00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 1: the word I didn't. I didn't interject that. That was 1028 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,560 Speaker 1: right from the article. They said, Yeah, it has the 1029 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,800 Speaker 1: texture of gruel, but it's fifty three bucks to taste. 1030 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 1: Fifty three dollars for like a little pat of thirty 1031 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,920 Speaker 1: year aged sushi. I mean, I'll try I'll try anything 1032 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,839 Speaker 1: pretty much for the most part, but especially if someone 1033 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,040 Speaker 1: else is buying. Somebody's like, yeah, I'll treats let's see 1034 00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: how it goes. No, I mean that that was that 1035 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,080 Speaker 1: was fascinat Like I really appreciated that deep diving to 1036 00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: sushi don't have a ton of follow up, but like 1037 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,439 Speaker 1: that was I'm glad you did that. Like I didn't 1038 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: know a lot of those things. It's kind of an 1039 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,160 Speaker 1: oddball thing. But like I you know, I love I 1040 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,160 Speaker 1: love cutting my own sushi when I have the right 1041 00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,399 Speaker 1: fish for it. And we're so like sushi consumed, but 1042 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,160 Speaker 1: really like we like it's new school stuff. We eat 1043 00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,120 Speaker 1: all these roles and fancies, sauce crap, that's all modern days. 1044 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: That's not what they were eating back in the day. 1045 00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,759 Speaker 1: So hopefully Phil like sushi and I impressed him with that. 1046 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,840 Speaker 1: You also have, I wrote, I wrote it down this time. Okay, 1047 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,440 Speaker 1: so we got coked out, hippo's we got burning knives. 1048 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:34,760 Speaker 1: Phil's got sushi to deal with. Um and and I'm 1049 00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: very gonna skip e d n A of fish as 1050 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,279 Speaker 1: a conservation tool. Just can skip over that one. Did 1051 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:41,160 Speaker 1: I forgot to jot that one? And then I was 1052 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 1: trying to think of like the keyword to use in 1053 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 1: the last second, so that Phil, you can also consider that. 1054 00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,440 Speaker 1: UM And we'll see, We'll see where we land with 1055 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:59,759 Speaker 1: Phil Miles Nulty, You're the winner. Disney just announced that 1056 00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 1: they were to be refreshing the Jungle Cruise ride to 1057 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,840 Speaker 1: get rid of some outdated tableaus. And I think the 1058 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,719 Speaker 1: solution here is simple. We just send forty or so 1059 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: of these Escobar hippos up to Orange County. Let the 1060 00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,120 Speaker 1: guests swim around and hope for the best. That's a 1061 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,760 Speaker 1: thrill ride. And on another note, while pleasuring yourself before 1062 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: a fishing trip may bring bad luck, I can tell 1063 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:31,480 Speaker 1: you that it only brings good luck to podcast editing 1064 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,919 Speaker 1: the land, to the boats, to the lake, to the sea, 1065 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:43,560 Speaker 1: being up the nets with your boy lads. What's up, 1066 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,680 Speaker 1: pass wives, It's me, your boy Lance V here yet 1067 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: again to help you take your status as an Internet 1068 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,920 Speaker 1: fishing legend up another level. I mean, you're not ever 1069 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,400 Speaker 1: going to be a legend like me or Biggie John B, 1070 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: so forget that. But if this gets you four or 1071 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,200 Speaker 1: five new followers that aren't your aunt or old summer 1072 00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,759 Speaker 1: camp counselor I've done my job and you actually get 1073 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:05,440 Speaker 1: to spend a day feeling good about yourself hashtag self healing. 1074 00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: This week's question comes from Jake B, who writes, Holy Smokes, 1075 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: no more segments with Lance. I am forced to skip 1076 00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,760 Speaker 1: through it. If you must keep that segment, please do 1077 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,840 Speaker 1: it at the very end, so I can just stop 1078 00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: the podcast when I hear him begin to talk. It 1079 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: is awful. However, I'm thinking about doing some Instagram live videos. 1080 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: Any tips, amazing question, Jake B. It's the live separates 1081 00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,000 Speaker 1: Internet fishing legends from losers. Going live means you can't 1082 00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,680 Speaker 1: do sixty three takes of your shitty fishing tip video 1083 00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: before posting. You think you're ready to mount up with 1084 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,200 Speaker 1: WARRINGNGY and the regulators, we'll see hashtag get psyched, hashtag 1085 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 1: you can do this hashtag maybe. Whatever you do, do 1086 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 1: not announce that you'll be going live days or hours 1087 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 1: before you actually go live. Just dream your raw show 1088 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,960 Speaker 1: consciousness to the masses whenever the mood strikes. Promoting an 1089 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,480 Speaker 1: upcoming live video just tells the world that your word 1090 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: nobody who show up, which is sures that no one 1091 00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: will show up. If you're as brilliant as I think 1092 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: I am, the world will stop whatever it's doing to 1093 00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: tune in. Hashtag trust me. Also, don't prepare anything. Spend 1094 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 1: the first forty five seconds stalling until one of your 1095 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: friends drops a stupid comment that will allow you to 1096 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,720 Speaker 1: transform the entire live session into a group chat between 1097 00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,600 Speaker 1: you and your squad. Here's the secret. People don't tune 1098 00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,080 Speaker 1: into live videos to learn something. They want to feel 1099 00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: like they're part of your inner circle, and the best 1100 00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,200 Speaker 1: way to let them in is by prattling on about 1101 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: inside jokes and stories that only a small amount of 1102 00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:35,280 Speaker 1: people watching will't understand. Anyway, that's it for me, Your 1103 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,840 Speaker 1: boy Lance Vye, hope that helped you. Must do the 1104 00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: courage of snoop line, Jake B. Maybe I'll catch you 1105 00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,480 Speaker 1: next week live from your mom's house, or if things 1106 00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 1: go my way, live from the Admirals Club at the 1107 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:52,280 Speaker 1: Goon Squad's private airport. This will come as a shark 1108 00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,160 Speaker 1: to absolutely no one, but I have neither posted nor 1109 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: watched an Instagram live video ever in my life. Not surprising, Uh, 1110 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,560 Speaker 1: It's actually extremely rare that I tune into anything live, 1111 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,360 Speaker 1: and if I do, it's always my pure happenstance, Like 1112 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:09,720 Speaker 1: I happen to be on Instagram when I get the 1113 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,080 Speaker 1: alert that some friend of mine is now live, so 1114 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: I'll just jump over at a dumb comment and right 1115 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:17,280 Speaker 1: about the time when they read it and go, hey, 1116 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:21,600 Speaker 1: Josie is watching, I'm xing out. I'm gone because I 1117 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:28,040 Speaker 1: find's heads Then I like, I'm there. I'm I'm there 1118 00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:32,480 Speaker 1: to be a jerk. Yeah, because I find most live 1119 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,640 Speaker 1: social videos awkward to watch anyway, So I click over 1120 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:38,520 Speaker 1: because I'm like, I want to see how awkward he's 1121 00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,840 Speaker 1: looking and feeling right now doing this, and I find 1122 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,160 Speaker 1: him pent awkward to produce. I've done it a few 1123 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 1: times Facebook. I hate it. I hate it, I hate it. 1124 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: The whole thing seems super awkward to me, unless you've 1125 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,440 Speaker 1: got an insane following. In my opinion, it's the fastest 1126 00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,600 Speaker 1: way to figure out how many people are not tuning 1127 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: into your ship. Like, if you need something to make 1128 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,320 Speaker 1: you feel better about yourself, do not go live on 1129 01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: social media, don't listen to Lance. Yes, those are words 1130 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,760 Speaker 1: to live by for everybody. And uh and that actually 1131 01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: leads me nicely into our final segment of the episode, 1132 01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,720 Speaker 1: where we give you the history of lures, baits and 1133 01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:17,440 Speaker 1: flies that we live by. It's time for end of 1134 01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:28,560 Speaker 1: the line. That's not loud enough. The rattle Trap wasn't 1135 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,920 Speaker 1: the first commercially produced lipless crank bait. That honor goes 1136 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:36,600 Speaker 1: to the Cordell hotspot, but no one casually refers to 1137 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: lipless crank baits as hotspots. No, they're called traps, despite 1138 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,960 Speaker 1: the fact that several other baits of a similar design 1139 01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:48,520 Speaker 1: preceded them. The Swimming Minnow by You, Boogie, Pico Perch, 1140 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,360 Speaker 1: and water Gator all came out around the same time 1141 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,800 Speaker 1: as the hotspot, and all featured the small profile, tight wobble, 1142 01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:58,360 Speaker 1: rapid sync, and high hook up ratio. But the rattle 1143 01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,600 Speaker 1: trap was the one that made lipless crank baits the 1144 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,840 Speaker 1: dominant lures they are today. The rail trup was the 1145 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: brainchild of World War Two veteran Bill Lewis. Lewis piloted 1146 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 1: B twenty four bombers, which were called flying coffins by 1147 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 1: the airman who flew them. Louis survived thirty combat missions, 1148 01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: some of which included supporting ground troops during the D 1149 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:22,520 Speaker 1: Day invasion at Normandy. He also flew voluntary support missions 1150 01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:26,600 Speaker 1: to resupply troops after the invasion. His heroism earned him 1151 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: the Distinguished Flying Cross Medal. Lewis then came home to 1152 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 1: pursue his education, first at the University of Alabama and 1153 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,200 Speaker 1: then at the Chicago Academy of Art, from which he 1154 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 1: launched his career as a commercial artist. But Louis was 1155 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: never really satisfied working for someone else. He had that hustle, 1156 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:47,840 Speaker 1: also known as entrepreneurial spirit depending on where you grew up. 1157 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,120 Speaker 1: By day he was drawing logos and headers, but by 1158 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 1: night he was making bass lures in his garage in Alexandria, Louisiana. 1159 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 1: Weekends would find him selling those lures out of the 1160 01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,840 Speaker 1: trunk of his beat up car popular boat ramps. Much 1161 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: of the time, Lewis would end up partying with his 1162 01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: spinner rates, plastic worms, and other lures below cost, just 1163 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 1: so he could get enough gas money to make it 1164 01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 1: back home. This went on for decades, but Lewis remained undeterred. 1165 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,600 Speaker 1: Legend has it that all changed one day in the 1166 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: late nineteen sixties. Lewis and a friend were fishing a 1167 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,720 Speaker 1: slow bite on Toledo Bend, cruising around the reservoir trying 1168 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,440 Speaker 1: to find some active fish, when they saw a crowd 1169 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:33,080 Speaker 1: of boats piled into the Sabine River channel. Upon investigation, 1170 01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:37,439 Speaker 1: they found that none of the boats were fishing except one. 1171 01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,960 Speaker 1: The rest of the flotilla had gathered to watch in ows. 1172 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 1: The two anglers pulled in fish on nearly every cast. 1173 01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,160 Speaker 1: Bill recognized one of the anglers as a buddy he'd 1174 01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: given some lures to and naturally asked him, to which 1175 01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 1: the guy replied, that silly rattling thing you gave me, 1176 01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,280 Speaker 1: you got any more of them? Not today, Lewis responded. 1177 01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: Story goes that Louis and his fishing partner both tied 1178 01:03:04,800 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 1: on some of his rattling lure prototypes and proceeded to 1179 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,200 Speaker 1: experience actions similar to what they witnessed in the channel, 1180 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,800 Speaker 1: catching bass after bass despite the slow bite, some of 1181 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,720 Speaker 1: which were in the eight pound class. That afternoon, Lewis 1182 01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: drove home through a rainstorm and his trusty Ford station 1183 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 1: wagon with wipers that didn't work. As he crawled back 1184 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,240 Speaker 1: to Louisiana, his right hand on the steering wheel and 1185 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,000 Speaker 1: his left hand manually operating the windshield wiper, a name 1186 01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,960 Speaker 1: for the new lure came to him, the rattle trap. 1187 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,360 Speaker 1: The rattle trap success proved not to be a fluke, 1188 01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:41,000 Speaker 1: and Lewis's business took off pretty quickly. By seventy the 1189 01:03:41,120 --> 01:03:43,400 Speaker 1: rattle trap was a common lure, and by the nine 1190 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,640 Speaker 1: eighties it was rivaling the plastic worm as the dominant 1191 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: bait in bass tournaments. The Bill Lewis Company grew into 1192 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,920 Speaker 1: one of the only successful fishing companies to manufacture just 1193 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: one product. That's how good rattle traps were and are. 1194 01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 1: They might be the most versatile hard bait of all time. 1195 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,520 Speaker 1: You can rip them fast and shallow for aggressive fish, 1196 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 1: or count them down and work them slow when the 1197 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,720 Speaker 1: bite is sluggish. They're one of the few baits with 1198 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,360 Speaker 1: a reputation for catching both large numbers of bass as 1199 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: well as truly big bass. Some pro anglers refer to 1200 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,600 Speaker 1: it as an idiot bait, meaning that just about anyone, 1201 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:26,440 Speaker 1: regardless of skill or experience, can tie on a trap 1202 01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:30,720 Speaker 1: and catch fish with it. Tommy Martin, a veteran pro, 1203 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,439 Speaker 1: has been quoted as saying a lot of pros wish 1204 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: the rattle trap had never been invented for that very reason. 1205 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: In modern bass angling, traps remain legendary for their effectiveness 1206 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: in heavy grass during cold months where I live in Texas, 1207 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Martin said, from January through March, if you're not fishing them, 1208 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,440 Speaker 1: you're not in business. I first discovered the power of 1209 01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,960 Speaker 1: the rattle trap fishing a peacock bass pond with my 1210 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: dad and one of his buddies. I will never forget 1211 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,640 Speaker 1: when that guy whose him, I can't remember, tied on 1212 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:06,280 Speaker 1: a trap, cast it out, and retrieved it. The sound 1213 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:09,720 Speaker 1: emanated up from the water and through the boat. It's 1214 01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:14,560 Speaker 1: somehow simultaneously hit high and low frequencies, the kind of 1215 01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,840 Speaker 1: sound you weren't sure if you were hearing or feeling 1216 01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:21,960 Speaker 1: like a grouse drumming. That sound is what defines the 1217 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,200 Speaker 1: rattle trap, and to this day I can recall it 1218 01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: exactly in my head. The dude then proceeded to whale 1219 01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,800 Speaker 1: on peacocks all day while my dad and I flailed 1220 01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,360 Speaker 1: with our spinner baits and standard cranks. He finally let 1221 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,920 Speaker 1: me use one, this weird rattling thing painted to look 1222 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,360 Speaker 1: like some kind of a bait fish with blood dripping 1223 01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,160 Speaker 1: off the sides bleeding shed. He told me, all fish 1224 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,480 Speaker 1: love that color. I started saving up car wash money 1225 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 1: the very next weekend, and the lures I went on 1226 01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:52,280 Speaker 1: to buy provided countless memorable days and fish. Bill Lewis 1227 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 1: died in two thousand five, but his signature bait continues 1228 01:05:56,240 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 1: to both win tournaments and help regular anglers catch their 1229 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:05,040 Speaker 1: lifetime fish, even kids like fifteen year old Tyler Getsman 1230 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 1: of Willis, Texas, who lended a thirteen pounder on a 1231 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:12,240 Speaker 1: trap in January of last year. I don't personally fish 1232 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,240 Speaker 1: them as much as I used to, but when I do, 1233 01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:24,640 Speaker 1: there's only one color I reach for, the bleeding chad. Well, 1234 01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,680 Speaker 1: that about wraps it up. But for those of you 1235 01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:30,320 Speaker 1: now feeling pious, this week's book of fishing Revelations includes 1236 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,919 Speaker 1: the worst trespass and angler can make against the fishing Gods, 1237 01:06:33,000 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: the most sacred fishing tool in history, the fact that 1238 01:06:35,480 --> 01:06:38,080 Speaker 1: some of our listeners are as cool as Miles Davis. 1239 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 1: And the lure that first rattled the grassy crypt where 1240 01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:43,920 Speaker 1: big best slumber in winter, It works in summer too. 1241 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,920 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's not just a wintertime lure anyway. 1242 01:06:47,040 --> 01:06:51,240 Speaker 1: Keep those awkward photos, bar nominations, sale bin items in general, 1243 01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:54,520 Speaker 1: feedback flowing to bent at the meat Eater dot com, 1244 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: tell us when we screw up, tell us when we 1245 01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,640 Speaker 1: strike a nerve. This week, we want to know about 1246 01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:04,400 Speaker 1: your fishing superstitions, especially the weird of the funny ones 1247 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,800 Speaker 1: lead on us. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And I'm hoping 1248 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,800 Speaker 1: you'll send us some good ones, and if you do, 1249 01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:11,200 Speaker 1: they might get mentioned in a future episode, in which 1250 01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: case will send you a special limited addition Degenerate Angler's 1251 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,320 Speaker 1: care package. Um, if you don't believe in such things, 1252 01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,040 Speaker 1: you could still get some stickers. If something you post 1253 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:23,880 Speaker 1: using that Bent podcast and degenerate Angler hashtag on Instagram 1254 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,840 Speaker 1: catches our attention, like Big Brother or the Eye of Saron, 1255 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:30,280 Speaker 1: we're watching you,